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Well there is hope for the Democrats in the Senate showing some backbone. They are actually having members come in twice per week for a quick 27 second session to prevent Bush from making recess appointments. Good move!
Looks like John Howard’s unwavering support for Augustus Stupidus has finally come home to roost. Howard’s Conservative party has had its hat handed to it by Labour. (The new PM, Kevin Rudd, swept to power in part by promising to sign the Kyoto Accord ASAP, lol). The current number looks to be 81/150 seats for Labour.
Looks like there’s even a significant risk Howard could lose his own parliament seat, something that’s happened to a sitting Australian PM only once before in the past 106 years.
Read it and weep, Bush supporters. See your future now in Australia. Take heart in the fact that, among all foreigners, Australians are probably most like Americans in many significant ways, so among all ROW democratic elections this election is probably the most directly comparable to an American election possible.—————————————HOWARD’S REIGN IN AUSTRALIA IS OVER
By ROHAN SULLIVAN, Associated Press Writer9 minutes ago
SYDNEY, Australia – Labor Party leader Kevin Rudd earned a sweeping victory in Australia’s elections Saturday, ending an 11-year conservative era and promising major changes to policies on global warming and the Iraq war.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071124/ap_on_re_au_an/australia_election;_ylt=AgPL4igPUAje_rTkVuNz1Xqs0NUE—————————————If you’re a Bush supporter, this CAN’T be good news. Some of you are REALLY going to have to step up the anti-Clinton stuff if you want to keep up!
LOL
In the interests of fair play, you Democrats should see your future in this election as well….at least if you want the same outcome.
[In Australia the conservatives have retained the idea that conservative political philosophy is actually classically liberal. That, and they DO have the Leftist element they must appeal to, lol. Hence the conservative party is called the LIberal Party in Australia.]
Here’s what’s coming your way:—————————————BOGUS FLYER STUNT HIJACKS FINAL ADDRESS
Patricia Karvelas and Matthew Franklin | November 23, 2007
JOHN Howard’s final campaign address to the National Press Club was swamped by the growing scandal over the distribution of bogus election material by Liberal Party officials.
The Prime Minister became visibly frustrated as questioning over the distribution of the bogus pamphlets in the marginal western Sydney seat of Lindsay took up half the questions in his final nationally televised speech ahead of tomorrow’s vote.
The bogus pamphlet – purportedly from the Islamic Australia Federation, which does not exist – claims the Labor Party supports Muslim terrorists and thanks Labor for supporting the Bali bombers.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22806910-601,00.html—————————————You know it’s coming here, too. Be prepared to see the Democrat nominee dodge the same mud about a year from now.
It would be interesting to jump a hundred years into the future and see how these current times had played out. Who fell to earth and whom came out in spite of it all, as for right now we have seen yet another whom fell into line with our President suffer in part for it. Tony Blair as much forced out, Howard suffering for his support. But then it is really hard to say it was their support that was the sole reason for their troubles. Sadly politics is the same across the world, where there is more then one party there is reason to sight downfalls.I doubt the United States is the only one where partisanship is used as a weapon to cloud the issues and to bring down the opposing side. We just seem that of late to have it used against us by those that do not belong to either party.
If there is a world wide movement to your liberal viewpoint Pendant, what happened in France? Or should we just not talk about that?
Seems France is always behind US politics by 10-15 years (note the timing of the French revolution in 1789) Perhaps what happened in France is but the beginning of their Reagan/Bush era??
If there is a world wide movement to your liberal viewpoint Pendant, what happened in France? Or should we just not talk about that?Posted by: Al B | November 24, 2007 at 07:11 AM
Oh by all means let’s discuss how you conservatives have been reduced to looking for France to validate your mistakes.
LOL
Discuss!
I’ve been to France several times and although it’s a great tourist spot, I wouldn’t want to live there because of it socialistic government and policies.
My impression of the country is that most Americans wouldn’t like the ‘French’ lifestyle after while either.
Besides, all those yellow headlights streaming down the road make me feel like I’m in one big parking lot with all the cars having their parking lights on.
Good posts, Pedant.
The Tory PM of Australia was Bush’s staunchest ally.
Say “buh bye”, Mr. Howard.
Zi would not want to live in France because I No parlevous Francais!! LOL
You’d enjoy France more, Kansas, if you didn’t eat at McDonald’s.
LOL Door King!!
“Seems France is always behind US politics by 10-15 years (note the timing of the French revolution in 1789) Perhaps what happened in France is but the beginning of their Reagan/Bush era??”
They could only hope, Chas. More likely, don’t you think, that their turn right is a reaction to the immigration fiasco that has destabilized their country and threatens to turn it Muslim in a generation? Can’t blame ‘em for that. It is a real threat to life as they and we know it.
Could be immigration… or just that time lag they seem to have had for all these centuries… Of course, we never had a dictator like Napoleon (unless you count Bush or Reagan)
Might include FDR in there too with Reagan and Bush
I heard once that they only change their underwear about once a week…I’ve been there and I wouldn’t be surprised if it were true.
I wonder how often the Mormons change their magic underwear??
France? France is a pigsty. Ever wonder down the Champs? Filthy. France: Inventor of ubiquitous sauces, designed to cover their flair for spoiling meats.
Hey at least France got Democracy right.
This latest aberration with Sarkozy notwithstanding…long anyway.
Hey, you think the Islamic people like France cause they used to have the Guillotine??
The food is great, too.
In France, eating is as art form…nothing wrong with that!
The snow is so beautiful..but I have to go to work and drive around in it..see ya later!
Sorry to hear that Mary… I’d invite you over for coffee, but you dont know where I live!
More likely, don’t you think, that their turn right is a reaction to the immigration fiasco that has destabilized their country and threatens to turn it Muslim in a generation?
Posted by: outlander | November 24, 2007 at 09:44 AM
Maybe. The south of France especially has a very long history, ancient links even, with northern Africa and the Middle East. Not many Americans are aware of this (apparently).
Mostly the threat there comes from the vastness of the state. France is a country that has so institutionalized its culture that the same damn culture (they’re just so overly proud of it), if not the language, is at risk because it can’t be “exported.” Employment is a mess there, too.
It’s not really a Left vs Right problem in France, though, since both sides are ridiculously, pompously proud of “culture française.”
For example. Gaul = south of France (mostly, although at times it has also referred to everything west of the Rhine) . Throughout human history, whatever powers that be in the Middle East have had powerful links to southern France (granted that the directness of these links has waxed and waned over time, though).
France has had its Muslim immigrants for millenia. It’s not as if there’s been a vast influx of Muslims _with *no* family ties in the area_ in the past 20 years or so. Even Muslims who’ve emigrated to France in the past two decades are often related to a family that’s been French for generations.
Senate showing some backbone. They are actually having members come in twice per week for a quick 27 second session to prevent Bush from making recess appointments.
Posted by: Kev |
They are obstructing government. They have failed to approve over one hundred of the Presidents appointee’s.
That is strictly party politics. Placing one’s party ABOVE the well being of our nation.
It would be wrong for a republican controlled congress to do this same thing.
But now that it’s an established practise, Americans can look forward to more INaction by a worthless congress more concerned about their own political appointees – than accepting the rule of law and the authority of the president.
Obstruction of justice and the American Way of life.
They should be tried for treason.
Hooray for our heroic Democratic Senate!
They are standing in the path of the tyrant bush and giving him the Heisman!
A lesson for us all on how to deal with the right. Bully!
Listen to yourself J R. You sound as if you are going to war. We are all Americans. At some point, different political parties will control our congress and presidency.
It is part of the American way that the party in control at the time – makes appointments. ANd if you are honest, you will admit they are always political appointments. And firings.
To fail to do your duty, as a congressional body by NOT approving any of the presidents appointments – is NOT something to be proud of. Vote them up or down, but at least VOTE.
Because the congress has FAILED to vote, we have empty federal offices. We also have temporary appointees who cannot fully act because they are “temporary”.
That congress failed to act during the last session of calendar year 2007 is a very very sad fact. One you seem to ignore or fail to face.
Please turn the situation around. Republican Congress/Democrat President. Is this situation also something we should be “proud of”?
Yup, JR typical Dem. Celebrating their obstructionist approach.
AT THE SAME TIME, they complain about the Republican minority Congress doing the same thing.
Hypocrites.
About the only thing I’ll miss about John Howard is the constant harassment he received from the Chasers. So far their jokes against Rudd haven’t been nearly as funny.
It’s still a nice comparison to see between Howard and Bush. While the public didn’t like Howard he could still walk out in public with minimal security while Bush has entire streets cleared out, will only speak in front of hand picked audiences, and arrests anyone seen with a differing viewpoint.
About the only positive thing Bush has contributed to the world is helping elect a lot of progressive and socialist leaders. One of Bush’s friend’s, Musharaff, can only hold onto power by arresting his opponents and putting his yes-men in the Supreme Court. Bush, of course, still finances this dictator with billions of taxpayer dollars so he can build up his military against India (none of the money goes to fighting terrorism).
How dare they obstruct the King’s appointments!
Gen. Sanchez is finally telling it the way it is, guess you can do that when you no longer have to worry about your job and promotions.http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071124/pl_nm/iraq_usa_democrats_dc_1
Sounds like some sour grapes from the RW for France, since they were smart enough to see through bush’s bogus war.
American way and Max?
It seems you have interpreted my post as suggesting that I see bush, Republicans, and by extension you essentially as enemies.
I’m glad I was able to make that clear! I DO in fact consider bush, Republicans, and you as enemies to be fought in any way possible.
And spare me any notions that you see things any other way yourselves.
Go Senate! Stop bush any way you can!
AmWay and Max “forgot” that Congress is not obstructing anything.
What Congress is doing is exactly what the founders intended, their effing jobs of approving or not approving the President’s appointments.
What the President wants to do is ram some POS loyalist down our throats (cf., John Bolton) without Congressional approval.
THAT’s what is bad and counter to Constitutional checks and balances.
Pedant:Australia is a Parlimentary Democracy and a Constitutional Monarchy. So are New Zealand the UK and Canada. What is called “Liberal” or “Conservative” in Parliamentary Democracies is generally far more into a social bent than either Democrats or Republicans. Howard in Australia is a Liberal, Harper in Canada is a Conservative and Brown in the UK is Labor. Harper is more to the left than the Howard. Both of whom are more to the left of Brown. The nuance is hard to pick out sometimes and should not be interperted by American lexicon. It is also possible that minority govenments (not unusual)can stunt any PM’s agenda at will
Ummmm Sursum… I doont believe Canada is a Constitutional Monarchy… They are not beholden to the Queen of England… Nor do I think is New Zealand or Australia… They are independent nations…
The UK is a Constitutional Monarchy – but not a Parliamentary Democracy…
BIG difference there….
OK KU had no losses until tonite… MO and KU end up with the SAME record… How does MO win the Big 12 North?? Isnt it a tie??
OK KU had no losses until tonite… MO and KU end up with the SAME record… How does MO win the Big 12 North?? Isnt it a tie??
Posted by: Chas. | November 24, 2007 at 10:58 PM
Because the game between KU and Missouri was for the Big 12 North title?
From the “For What It’s Worth” Department >>>>
Boy attacked by pit bull still in critical condition
The 1-year-old boy who was mauled by a pit bull on Thanksgiving Day remained in critical condition Friday at a Wesley Medical Center.
The boy underwent complex surgery Thursday to reattach a piece of his scalp, about 8 inches by 4 inches, on the back of his head, according to Wesley officials.
Police said the boy and his mother, in her 20s, were at her boyfriend’s apartment in the Brookwood Apartments, 1770 S. Rock Road, when the dog attacked. The boyfriend was at work at the time.
The woman took her son to Wesley, which notified police at about 10:30 a.m.
The boy also suffered bite wounds on his cheeks and puncture wounds on his buttocks, police said, and the mother was bitten on the arm when she tried to pull the dog off her son.
– Joe Rodriguez
Wichita Eagle (11/24/2007)
Kansas — Both teams end up 11-1 on the season…
Looks like Romney has his own Willie Horton:http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071125/ap_po/romney_judge;_ylt=AlLt3yzIxpYRNtfWfZ.QBSiyFz4D
Kansas — Both teams end up 11-1 on the season…
Posted by: Chas. | November 24, 2007 at 11:15 PM
So?
If Oklahoma (6-2) beats Missouri (7-1) in the Championship game, Oklahoma will be the Big XII champion.
But that game is for North/South championship.. I understand that… What I dont understand is how KU and MU end up with identical records in the NORTH, and MU wins…
I will make this real simple:
Why isnt there a playoff game beween MU and KU to see who wins the Big 12 North??
Why isnt there a playoff game beween MU and KU to see who wins the Big 12 North??
Posted by: Chas. | November 24, 2007 at 11:38 PM
Because there just was a game to see who wins the Big 12 North?
OK Kansas… if you cant understand what I am asking, then just forget it!! Geez…. it seems like such a simple question, but you naturally have to make it complicated!!
GOOD NIGHT!!
OK Kansas… if you cant understand what I am asking, then just forget it!! Geez…. it seems like such a simple question, but you naturally have to make it complicated!!
GOOD NIGHT!!
Posted by: Chas. | November 25, 2007 at 12:18 AM
Glad I could help out.
Is there anyone out there confused on the issue other than Chas? :)
Don’t you know, according to Pit Bull lovers, they don’t attack humans.
Chas; Australia, New Zealand and Canada all have Governors General that do the ceremonial duties and signs all bills passed by their Parliaments. Appointed by their elected legislatures for a fixed term they are the Chiefs of State, so if Bush “officially” visits one of those contries, he would be greeted by the GC’s, not the PM’s who are further down the pecking order. The PM has the real power though and the GC is a formality and a figurehead just like the Queen in the UK, whom they represent. Usually the GC’s are representative of their unique societies. In Canada for instance, the last two GC’s immigrated as refugee childeren, one Black the other Chinese, both women, both bilingual. When a GC officiates “God Save the Queen” is played but in all other gatherings, it is the appropriate nationl anthem. This type of arrangement is called a Constituional Monarchy
So, neighbour, you are saying Canada is NOT independent of England?? And Australia and New Zealand as well?? I am still not so sure of that… In one line you call them Governors General; in another GC’s… So which is it?? A Constitutional Monarchy has to have a Monarch!!
Chas: Typo only, it should read GG. Yes of course all are independent of England but we each recognize Elizabeth as Queen of our own countries independently, with no allegance each other or to the UK at all. It’s been that way for us since 1867. The concept is hard to explain unless you grow up with it, but in essence we try to seperate the head of state from governence feeling there is dangerous if it all lay with one person. Of couse we could ditch the whole arrangement, but we seem to like the way it works. When the PM of the 4 countries discussed writes his annual address (like your State of the Union Address) it is called the “Speech from the Throne” and deliverd by the GG. It discusses the aims and objects the PM wants to accomplish in the forthcoming session of Parliament, and is debated in depth by the Members. If you appoint a new Ambassador to Canada, they would present their credentials to the GG, not the PM. British Commonwealth Countries (and there are about 50) send “High Commissioners”, not Ambassadors and reside in A High Commission not an Embassy, because Elizabeth is recognized as the head of the Commonwealth as well. It is tough civics for someone to get a handle on raised in the US, but then there are some things I don’t quite get about a Congressional Republic. There is an adage that goes like this. At our birth Canada had as midwives British Political Wisdom, French Culture and American Knowhow. Somehow we ended up with French Political Wisdom ,British Knowhow and American Culture. We’re working on it…..