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		<title>By: custom poker</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/open-thread-15/#comment-271890</link>
		<dc:creator>custom poker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 04:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exstremely lovely site. Very impressed about all the lesson there are to learn and to know how much help is there also. Keep up the great work</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exstremely lovely site. Very impressed about all the lesson there are to learn and to know how much help is there also. Keep up the great work</p>
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		<title>By: payday one</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/open-thread-15/#comment-270010</link>
		<dc:creator>payday one</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 03:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really like the layout and colors that you chose for this website! It certainly is incredible! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really like the layout and colors that you chose for this website! It certainly is incredible! :)</p>
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		<title>By: CapnAmerica</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/open-thread-15/#comment-156731</link>
		<dc:creator>CapnAmerica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 17:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jesus said to him, &quot;I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.&quot;

Posted by: Nathan

Right.

Too bad about Abraham, Moses, and all the other Old Testament saints.

Burning in hell forever.

Tough break.

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<p>Posted by: Nathan</p>
<p>Right.</p>
<p>Too bad about Abraham, Moses, and all the other Old Testament saints.</p>
<p>Burning in hell forever.</p>
<p>Tough break.</p>
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		<title>By: Wahawk</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/open-thread-15/#comment-156730</link>
		<dc:creator>Wahawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 06:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great Idea for US!  Should use Body Mass test to qualify people for free Health Care!  And use it to screen out Immigrants coming to the US!

New Zealand Denies Immigration to U.K. Wife Because She&#039;s Too FatSaturday, November 17, 2007Fox NewsNEW YORK —  New Zealand immigration officials are keeping a U.K. wife from joining her husband &quot;down under&quot; because they say she is too fat, the Daily Mail reports.

British citizens Rowan Trezise, 33, and Richie Trezise, 35, are living apart as she tries desperately to shed the pounds needed to comply with New Zealand guidelines that immigrants maintain a healthy BMI, or body mass index.

BMI is a weight-height ratio that estimates percentage of body fat. The New Zealand Immigration Service requires all applicants to undergo a complete medical examination, which includes body size measures like &quot;waist circumference.&quot;
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<p>New Zealand Denies Immigration to U.K. Wife Because She&#8217;s Too FatSaturday, November 17, 2007Fox NewsNEW YORK —  New Zealand immigration officials are keeping a U.K. wife from joining her husband &#8220;down under&#8221; because they say she is too fat, the Daily Mail reports.</p>
<p>British citizens Rowan Trezise, 33, and Richie Trezise, 35, are living apart as she tries desperately to shed the pounds needed to comply with New Zealand guidelines that immigrants maintain a healthy BMI, or body mass index.</p>
<p>BMI is a weight-height ratio that estimates percentage of body fat. The New Zealand Immigration Service requires all applicants to undergo a complete medical examination, which includes body size measures like &#8220;waist circumference.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/open-thread-15/#comment-156729</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 06:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jesus said to him, &quot;I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.&quot;
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		<title>By: Chas.</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/open-thread-15/#comment-156728</link>
		<dc:creator>Chas.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 06:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good night;  Good luck;  God Bless; whatever you conceive God to be!!

Blessings  all!!

And especially to all who believe their was is the only way... They are in need of  special blessings!Amen.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good night;  Good luck;  God Bless; whatever you conceive God to be!!</p>
<p>Blessings  all!!</p>
<p>And especially to all who believe their was is the only way&#8230; They are in need of  special blessings!Amen.</p>
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		<title>By: ken</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/open-thread-15/#comment-156727</link>
		<dc:creator>ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 04:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BUMMER

Heard Christmas Carols on 2 radio stations tonight ---- another year of too early and too much ...
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<p>Heard Christmas Carols on 2 radio stations tonight &#8212;- another year of too early and too much &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MonkeyHawk</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/open-thread-15/#comment-156726</link>
		<dc:creator>MonkeyHawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;gster&quot; --

Why wouldn&#039;t a museum praising the triumphs of George WMD Bush&#039;s presidency become a tourist attraction?

Everyone enjoys Fantasy Land!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;gster&#8221; &#8211;</p>
<p>Why wouldn&#8217;t a museum praising the triumphs of George WMD Bush&#8217;s presidency become a tourist attraction?</p>
<p>Everyone enjoys Fantasy Land!</p>
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		<title>By: gster</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/open-thread-15/#comment-156725</link>
		<dc:creator>gster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush Library

There&#039;s a show on C-SPAN which discusses presidential libraries. Here&#039;s what the draft plans for the George W. Bush Library now call for:

The Alberto Gonzales Room - Where you can&#039;t remember any of the exhibits.

The Hurricane Katrina Room - It&#039;s still under construction.

The Texas Air National Guard Room - Where you don&#039;t even have to show up.

The Walter Reed Hospital Room - Where they don&#039;t let you in.

The Guantanamo Bay Room - Where they don&#039;t let you out.

The Weapons of Mass Destruction Room - Nobody has been able to find it.

The War in Iraq Room - After you complete your first tour, they can force you to go back for your second and third-- and fourth and fifth-- tours.

The K-Street Project Gift Shop - Where you can buy an election, or, if no one cares, steal one.

The Men&#039;s Room - Where you could meet a Republican Senator (or two).

To be fair, the President has done some good things, and so the museum will have an electron microscope to help you locate those few things.

When asked, President Bush said that he didn&#039;t care so much about the individual exhibits as long as his museum was better than his father&#039;s.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush Library</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a show on C-SPAN which discusses presidential libraries. Here&#8217;s what the draft plans for the George W. Bush Library now call for:</p>
<p>The Alberto Gonzales Room &#8211; Where you can&#8217;t remember any of the exhibits.</p>
<p>The Hurricane Katrina Room &#8211; It&#8217;s still under construction.</p>
<p>The Texas Air National Guard Room &#8211; Where you don&#8217;t even have to show up.</p>
<p>The Walter Reed Hospital Room &#8211; Where they don&#8217;t let you in.</p>
<p>The Guantanamo Bay Room &#8211; Where they don&#8217;t let you out.</p>
<p>The Weapons of Mass Destruction Room &#8211; Nobody has been able to find it.</p>
<p>The War in Iraq Room &#8211; After you complete your first tour, they can force you to go back for your second and third&#8211; and fourth and fifth&#8211; tours.</p>
<p>The K-Street Project Gift Shop &#8211; Where you can buy an election, or, if no one cares, steal one.</p>
<p>The Men&#8217;s Room &#8211; Where you could meet a Republican Senator (or two).</p>
<p>To be fair, the President has done some good things, and so the museum will have an electron microscope to help you locate those few things.</p>
<p>When asked, President Bush said that he didn&#8217;t care so much about the individual exhibits as long as his museum was better than his father&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: MonkeyHawk</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/open-thread-15/#comment-156724</link>
		<dc:creator>MonkeyHawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 19:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brownback among beneficiaries of farm subsidies

By Lisa HoffmanScripps Howard News ServicePublished Saturday, November 17, 2007

For some lawmakers, the current U.S. Senate debate on farm subsidies strikes close to home.

At least six senators, including Kansas&#039; Sam Brownback, have received government agriculture handouts in recent years.

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Hmmm.

Wonder how he&#039;ll vote.
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<p>By Lisa HoffmanScripps Howard News ServicePublished Saturday, November 17, 2007</p>
<p>For some lawmakers, the current U.S. Senate debate on farm subsidies strikes close to home.</p>
<p>At least six senators, including Kansas&#8217; Sam Brownback, have received government agriculture handouts in recent years.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Hmmm.</p>
<p>Wonder how he&#8217;ll vote.</p>
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		<title>By: Kev</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/open-thread-15/#comment-156723</link>
		<dc:creator>Kev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 19:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MOTHER OF THE YEAR AWARD- He abused and killed my kid but I still love him of course!

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.azcentral.com/news/columns/articles/1031roberts1031.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.azcentral.com/news/columns/articles/1031roberts1031.html&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MOTHER OF THE YEAR AWARD- He abused and killed my kid but I still love him of course!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.azcentral.com/news/columns/articles/1031roberts1031.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.azcentral.com/news/columns/articles/1031roberts1031.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kev</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/open-thread-15/#comment-156722</link>
		<dc:creator>Kev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 18:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>REPUBLICANS SEEK TO THROW COUPLE OUT OF USA FOR GETTING MARRIED!

That is a fact! Here we have 2 good Americans- one a doctor in a rural area (such people are hard to come by these days) that the Bushies want to toss out of the country. Did they sneak in? NO. Did they cover up a Nazi past? NO. Did they commit a crime in the USA? NO. Did they refuse to pay taxes? NO. What they did was GET MARRIED and with Immigration that is a SIN! You see if you apply to enter the United States LEGALLY and then get married between the time you apply and you are issued a visa- which can take 10 years- then they will kick you out. I had to go through the same crap with them when we would cross the border between my wife&#039;s country (Canada) and the USA. As long as we were single, no problem crossing but the minute we got married BIG problem. Until my wife was issued her green card- which took almost 2 years- we could not cross the border together. Only separate. So if these 2 had simply shacked up and said to hell with the marriage part, they would be fine. But instead of kicking out convicted CRIMINALS like the child rapist who killed the students in New Jersey, the Bushies would rather spend the government&#039;s money seeing that married people are kicked out. This from the &quot;party of family values&quot; of course.&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071117/ap_on_re_us/doctor_immigration_appeal;_ylt=AvxpKnjaoOc2d8jTyBZJWnJH2ocA&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071117/ap_on_re_us/doctor_immigration_appeal;_ylt=AvxpKnjaoOc2d8jTyBZJWnJH2ocA&lt;/a&gt;
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<p>That is a fact! Here we have 2 good Americans- one a doctor in a rural area (such people are hard to come by these days) that the Bushies want to toss out of the country. Did they sneak in? NO. Did they cover up a Nazi past? NO. Did they commit a crime in the USA? NO. Did they refuse to pay taxes? NO. What they did was GET MARRIED and with Immigration that is a SIN! You see if you apply to enter the United States LEGALLY and then get married between the time you apply and you are issued a visa- which can take 10 years- then they will kick you out. I had to go through the same crap with them when we would cross the border between my wife&#8217;s country (Canada) and the USA. As long as we were single, no problem crossing but the minute we got married BIG problem. Until my wife was issued her green card- which took almost 2 years- we could not cross the border together. Only separate. So if these 2 had simply shacked up and said to hell with the marriage part, they would be fine. But instead of kicking out convicted CRIMINALS like the child rapist who killed the students in New Jersey, the Bushies would rather spend the government&#8217;s money seeing that married people are kicked out. This from the &#8220;party of family values&#8221; of course.<a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071117/ap_on_re_us/doctor_immigration_appeal;_ylt=AvxpKnjaoOc2d8jTyBZJWnJH2ocA" rel="nofollow">http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071117/ap_on_re_us/doctor_immigration_appeal;_ylt=AvxpKnjaoOc2d8jTyBZJWnJH2ocA</a></p>
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		<title>By: cosmos</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/open-thread-15/#comment-156721</link>
		<dc:creator>cosmos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 17:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;UN Panel Gives Dire Warming Forecast&#039;&lt;a href=&quot;http://apnews.myway.com/article/20071117/D8SVHQ480.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://apnews.myway.com/article/20071117/D8SVHQ480.html&lt;/a&gt;
&quot;The Earth is hurtling toward a warmer climate at a quickening pace, a Nobel-winning U.N. scientific panel said in a landmark report released Saturday, warning of inevitable human suffering and the threat of extinction for some species.&quot;Future water shortages, sea level rises, etc at link.

&#039;Key Findings of UN Scientific Report&#039;&lt;a href=&quot;http://apnews.myway.com/article/20071117/D8SVIFGG0.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://apnews.myway.com/article/20071117/D8SVIFGG0.html&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;UN Panel Gives Dire Warming Forecast&#8217;<a href="http://apnews.myway.com/article/20071117/D8SVHQ480.html" rel="nofollow">http://apnews.myway.com/article/20071117/D8SVHQ480.html</a><br />
&#8220;The Earth is hurtling toward a warmer climate at a quickening pace, a Nobel-winning U.N. scientific panel said in a landmark report released Saturday, warning of inevitable human suffering and the threat of extinction for some species.&#8221;Future water shortages, sea level rises, etc at link.</p>
<p>&#8216;Key Findings of UN Scientific Report&#8217;<a href="http://apnews.myway.com/article/20071117/D8SVIFGG0.html" rel="nofollow">http://apnews.myway.com/article/20071117/D8SVIFGG0.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: CapnAmerica</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/open-thread-15/#comment-156720</link>
		<dc:creator>CapnAmerica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of hitting paydirt, Ben.

I know you&#039;re interested as I am in nuclear fusion.

Any major progress going on with that?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of hitting paydirt, Ben.</p>
<p>I know you&#8217;re interested as I am in nuclear fusion.</p>
<p>Any major progress going on with that?</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/open-thread-15/#comment-156719</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>outlander - I had heard about that stem-cell research on NPR.  Fascinating.  One GREAT benefit- if they can make tisues for ME from MY cells then due to the identical DNA it will not be foreign to my body.  Thus, much lass or no rejection issues.

Let&#039;s hope this research hits paydirt.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>outlander &#8211; I had heard about that stem-cell research on NPR.  Fascinating.  One GREAT benefit- if they can make tisues for ME from MY cells then due to the identical DNA it will not be foreign to my body.  Thus, much lass or no rejection issues.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s hope this research hits paydirt.</p>
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		<title>By: Chas.</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/open-thread-15/#comment-156718</link>
		<dc:creator>Chas.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope Kerry smokes Pickens and all of those yayhoos  who pulled that  swift-boating crap!!  It will serve them right to be shown as liars!!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope Kerry smokes Pickens and all of those yayhoos  who pulled that  swift-boating crap!!  It will serve them right to be shown as liars!!</p>
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		<title>By: CapnAmerica</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/open-thread-15/#comment-156717</link>
		<dc:creator>CapnAmerica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With the IRS ignoring non-profit abuse, we want all Kansas politics controlled by secretive non-profits? You think this won&#039;t happen again if the IRS does nothing now?

Posted by: Kansas Meadowlark &#124;

Gee, Meadowlark, maybe it&#039;s because BushCo. has cut the IRS budget to prosecute tax evaders to the bone.

He&#039;s against taxes and &quot;big government,&quot; remember?

The very things that you support Bush for are the things you later whine about.

Get a clue, RepubliCONs.  Gov&#039;t matters.  You can&#039;t strangle it and &quot;drown it in the bathtub&quot; (Grover Norquist) and expect only a better life.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the IRS ignoring non-profit abuse, we want all Kansas politics controlled by secretive non-profits? You think this won&#8217;t happen again if the IRS does nothing now?</p>
<p>Posted by: Kansas Meadowlark |</p>
<p>Gee, Meadowlark, maybe it&#8217;s because BushCo. has cut the IRS budget to prosecute tax evaders to the bone.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s against taxes and &#8220;big government,&#8221; remember?</p>
<p>The very things that you support Bush for are the things you later whine about.</p>
<p>Get a clue, RepubliCONs.  Gov&#8217;t matters.  You can&#8217;t strangle it and &#8220;drown it in the bathtub&#8221; (Grover Norquist) and expect only a better life.</p>
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		<title>By: CapnAmerica</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/open-thread-15/#comment-156716</link>
		<dc:creator>CapnAmerica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, this should be interesting.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bostonherald.com/news/national/politics/general/view.bg?articleid=1045198&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://news.bostonherald.com/news/national/politics/general/view.bg?articleid=1045198&lt;/a&gt;

Kerry takes oilman Pickens up on $1 million Swift Boat challenge

By Associated Press  &#124;   Friday, November 16, 2007  &#124;  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bostonherald.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.bostonherald.com&lt;/a&gt;  &#124;  General Politics
Sen. John Kerry, whose 2004 presidential campaign was torpedoed by critics of his Vietnam War record, said Friday he has personally accepted Texas oilman T. Boone Pickens’ offer of $1 million to anyone who can disprove even a single charge of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.

Pickens, who provided $3 million to bankroll the group during Kerry’s race against President Bush, responded by saying he won’t consider giving Kerry the reward unless he surrenders his combat films, additional military records and wartime journal.

&quot;While I am prepared to show they lied on allegation after allegation, you have generously offered to pay one million dollars for just one thing that can be proven false,&quot; Kerry wrote to Pickens. &quot;I am prepared to prove the lie beyond any reasonable doubt.&quot;

The Massachusetts Democrat, a Navy veteran and former prosecutor, said he was willing to present his case directly to Pickens and would donate any proceeds to the Paralyzed Veterans of America.

In an interview, Kerry added: &quot;It’s beyond me; it’s important for all the vets who served with me, who cared about it, whose own records were lied about. The problem is, it’s the way they operate on the other side, and we have to end swift-boating forever. The way to do that is to have this public accounting.&quot;

. . . . .

While fellow veterans and reporters disproved many of the group’s claims at the time, Kerry refused to air ads responding to the criticism, and even his own response was muted for fear of legitimizing his critics’ attacks. The senator conceded after losing to Bush, the Republican incumbent, that his lackluster response likely cost him the election.

Ever since, Kerry has worked to lay the criticisms to rest.

In May 2005, he began signing the Standard Form 180, giving reporters access to his full Navy record personnel and medical records — something he refused to do during the campaign.

Subsequent reviews showed those records mostly duplicated documents Kerry released during the 2004 campaign. In addition, they included numerous commendations from commanders who went on to criticize Kerry’s service during the presidential race.

That disclosure renewed questions about why Kerry did not respond more forcefully with control over the White House at stake.

Kerry decided against launching a second bid for president, but during the 2006 midterms, and as the 2008 race has formulated, the senator proclaimed he will not only defend his own record, but prevent other candidates from being &quot;Swift-boated.&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, this should be interesting.</p>
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<p>Kerry takes oilman Pickens up on $1 million Swift Boat challenge</p>
<p>By Associated Press  |   Friday, November 16, 2007  |  <a href="http://www.bostonherald.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.bostonherald.com</a>  |  General Politics<br />
Sen. John Kerry, whose 2004 presidential campaign was torpedoed by critics of his Vietnam War record, said Friday he has personally accepted Texas oilman T. Boone Pickens’ offer of $1 million to anyone who can disprove even a single charge of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.</p>
<p>Pickens, who provided $3 million to bankroll the group during Kerry’s race against President Bush, responded by saying he won’t consider giving Kerry the reward unless he surrenders his combat films, additional military records and wartime journal.</p>
<p>&#8220;While I am prepared to show they lied on allegation after allegation, you have generously offered to pay one million dollars for just one thing that can be proven false,&#8221; Kerry wrote to Pickens. &#8220;I am prepared to prove the lie beyond any reasonable doubt.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Massachusetts Democrat, a Navy veteran and former prosecutor, said he was willing to present his case directly to Pickens and would donate any proceeds to the Paralyzed Veterans of America.</p>
<p>In an interview, Kerry added: &#8220;It’s beyond me; it’s important for all the vets who served with me, who cared about it, whose own records were lied about. The problem is, it’s the way they operate on the other side, and we have to end swift-boating forever. The way to do that is to have this public accounting.&#8221;</p>
<p>. . . . .</p>
<p>While fellow veterans and reporters disproved many of the group’s claims at the time, Kerry refused to air ads responding to the criticism, and even his own response was muted for fear of legitimizing his critics’ attacks. The senator conceded after losing to Bush, the Republican incumbent, that his lackluster response likely cost him the election.</p>
<p>Ever since, Kerry has worked to lay the criticisms to rest.</p>
<p>In May 2005, he began signing the Standard Form 180, giving reporters access to his full Navy record personnel and medical records — something he refused to do during the campaign.</p>
<p>Subsequent reviews showed those records mostly duplicated documents Kerry released during the 2004 campaign. In addition, they included numerous commendations from commanders who went on to criticize Kerry’s service during the presidential race.</p>
<p>That disclosure renewed questions about why Kerry did not respond more forcefully with control over the White House at stake.</p>
<p>Kerry decided against launching a second bid for president, but during the 2006 midterms, and as the 2008 race has formulated, the senator proclaimed he will not only defend his own record, but prevent other candidates from being &#8220;Swift-boated.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Blaidd_Drwg</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/open-thread-15/#comment-156715</link>
		<dc:creator>Blaidd_Drwg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it okay when it&#039;s the republicans doing it to the Democrats?

It seems you only complain when it is the opposite way around.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it okay when it&#8217;s the republicans doing it to the Democrats?</p>
<p>It seems you only complain when it is the opposite way around.</p>
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		<title>By: Kansas Meadowlark</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/open-thread-15/#comment-156714</link>
		<dc:creator>Kansas Meadowlark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Political Mom:

&quot;Geez Mentalsqualk...this AGAIN&quot;

One of the non-profits dealt with Phill Kline, but the other non-profit dealt with the Kansas Legislature.  There is nothing known for sure about the non-profit behind knocking out certain State Reps.

With the IRS ignoring non-profit abuse, we want all Kansas politics controlled by secretive non-profits?  You  think this won&#039;t happen again if the IRS does nothing now?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Political Mom:</p>
<p>&#8220;Geez Mentalsqualk&#8230;this AGAIN&#8221;</p>
<p>One of the non-profits dealt with Phill Kline, but the other non-profit dealt with the Kansas Legislature.  There is nothing known for sure about the non-profit behind knocking out certain State Reps.</p>
<p>With the IRS ignoring non-profit abuse, we want all Kansas politics controlled by secretive non-profits?  You  think this won&#8217;t happen again if the IRS does nothing now?</p>
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		<title>By: Kev</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/open-thread-15/#comment-156713</link>
		<dc:creator>Kev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 15:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&quot;&quot;Female Road Rage - heh :)&quot;&quot;&quot;

Wow!! That was GREAT!! It captures what the Christmas season and the birth of Jesus are all about!! I cannot want for &quot;black Friday&quot; when we all start celebrating the birth of the Lord Jesus Christ by going to the mall and knocking down and trampling old ladies and children! Jesus cannot be more pleased when he sees old ladies laying on the floor of Wal*Mart in a bloody pulp! He loves it when we celebrate his birthday by fighting over parking places! That is what the video reminds me of!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8221;"Female Road Rage &#8211; heh :)&#8221;"&#8221;</p>
<p>Wow!! That was GREAT!! It captures what the Christmas season and the birth of Jesus are all about!! I cannot want for &#8220;black Friday&#8221; when we all start celebrating the birth of the Lord Jesus Christ by going to the mall and knocking down and trampling old ladies and children! Jesus cannot be more pleased when he sees old ladies laying on the floor of Wal*Mart in a bloody pulp! He loves it when we celebrate his birthday by fighting over parking places! That is what the video reminds me of!</p>
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		<title>By: XXX</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/open-thread-15/#comment-156712</link>
		<dc:creator>XXX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 15:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Federal agents raided the headquarters of a group that produces illegal currency and puts it in circulation, seizing gold, silver and two tons of copper coins featuring Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.abcactionnews.com/news/national/story.aspx?content_id=776f25a7-1dfa-4694-9829-996458e4ee09&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.abcactionnews.com/news/national/story.aspx?content_id=776f25a7-1dfa-4694-9829-996458e4ee09&lt;/a&gt;

OOPS!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Federal agents raided the headquarters of a group that produces illegal currency and puts it in circulation, seizing gold, silver and two tons of copper coins featuring Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul.<br />
<a href="http://www.abcactionnews.com/news/national/story.aspx?content_id=776f25a7-1dfa-4694-9829-996458e4ee09" rel="nofollow">http://www.abcactionnews.com/news/national/story.aspx?content_id=776f25a7-1dfa-4694-9829-996458e4ee09</a></p>
<p>OOPS!</p>
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		<title>By: XXX</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/open-thread-15/#comment-156711</link>
		<dc:creator>XXX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 15:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Proposed math books for elementary school children and their teachers have resulted in one computation that publishers would just as soon erase – 109,263.

That&#039;s the number of errors that were uncovered in proposed math textbooks that are under review by the State Board of Education for distribution to schools in the fall of 2008.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/texassouthwest/stories/111607dntextextbooks.268c6c7.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/texassouthwest/stories/111607dntextextbooks.268c6c7.html&lt;/a&gt;

Is our children learning yet?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Proposed math books for elementary school children and their teachers have resulted in one computation that publishers would just as soon erase – 109,263.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the number of errors that were uncovered in proposed math textbooks that are under review by the State Board of Education for distribution to schools in the fall of 2008.<br />
<a href="http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/texassouthwest/stories/111607dntextextbooks.268c6c7.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/texassouthwest/stories/111607dntextextbooks.268c6c7.html</a></p>
<p>Is our children learning yet?</p>
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		<title>By: XXX</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/open-thread-15/#comment-156710</link>
		<dc:creator>XXX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 15:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Global warming is a myth concocted by former Vice President Al Gore, the United Nations, Hollywood and the news media, Kentucky lawmakers were told yesterday.

Chairman Jim Gooch, D-Providence, a longtime ally of the coal industry, said he purposefully did not invite anyone who believes in global warming to testify.

Neither of Gooch&#039;s invited panelists was a scientist.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kentucky.com/news/state/story/231346.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.kentucky.com/news/state/story/231346.html&lt;/a&gt;

Just goes to show stupidity has no boundaries.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Global warming is a myth concocted by former Vice President Al Gore, the United Nations, Hollywood and the news media, Kentucky lawmakers were told yesterday.</p>
<p>Chairman Jim Gooch, D-Providence, a longtime ally of the coal industry, said he purposefully did not invite anyone who believes in global warming to testify.</p>
<p>Neither of Gooch&#8217;s invited panelists was a scientist.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kentucky.com/news/state/story/231346.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.kentucky.com/news/state/story/231346.html</a></p>
<p>Just goes to show stupidity has no boundaries.</p>
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		<title>By: outlander</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/open-thread-15/#comment-156709</link>
		<dc:creator>outlander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 14:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The end of the embryonic cell controversy seems near. Of course next you will hear the protests from those who will lose funding.People resist the temptation to cave on pro-life principle and what happens? It turns out science develops a better, more effective way than the sacrificing embryonic human life to research. Science must be guided based on human moral principles.

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Prof Wilmut, who works at Edinburgh University, believes a rival method pioneered in Japan has better potential for making human embryonic cells which can be used
to grow a patient&#039;s own cells and tissues for a vast range of
treatments, from treating strokes to heart attacks and Parkinson&#039;s, and will be less controversial than the Dolly method, known as &quot;nuclear transfer.&quot;

His announcement could mark the beginning of the end for therapeutic cloning, on which tens of millions of pounds have been spent worldwide over the past decade. &quot;I decided a few weeks ago not to pursue nuclear transfer,&quot; Prof Wilmut said.

Britain&#039;s new Nobel prize winner and pioneer of stem cell research, Sir Martin Evans of the Cardiff School of Biosciences, commented on the Japanese work: &quot;This will be the long-term solution.&quot;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml;jsessionid=XFT2IYJUHGB4FQFIQMFSFF4AVCBQ0IV0?xml=/earth/2007/11/16/scidolly116.xml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml;jsessionid=XFT2IYJUHGB4FQFIQMFSFF4AVCBQ0IV0?xml=/earth/2007/11/16/scidolly116.xml&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The end of the embryonic cell controversy seems near. Of course next you will hear the protests from those who will lose funding.People resist the temptation to cave on pro-life principle and what happens? It turns out science develops a better, more effective way than the sacrificing embryonic human life to research. Science must be guided based on human moral principles.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Prof Wilmut, who works at Edinburgh University, believes a rival method pioneered in Japan has better potential for making human embryonic cells which can be used<br />
to grow a patient&#8217;s own cells and tissues for a vast range of<br />
treatments, from treating strokes to heart attacks and Parkinson&#8217;s, and will be less controversial than the Dolly method, known as &#8220;nuclear transfer.&#8221;</p>
<p>His announcement could mark the beginning of the end for therapeutic cloning, on which tens of millions of pounds have been spent worldwide over the past decade. &#8220;I decided a few weeks ago not to pursue nuclear transfer,&#8221; Prof Wilmut said.</p>
<p>Britain&#8217;s new Nobel prize winner and pioneer of stem cell research, Sir Martin Evans of the Cardiff School of Biosciences, commented on the Japanese work: &#8220;This will be the long-term solution.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml;jsessionid=XFT2IYJUHGB4FQFIQMFSFF4AVCBQ0IV0?xml=/earth/2007/11/16/scidolly116.xml" rel="nofollow">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml;jsessionid=XFT2IYJUHGB4FQFIQMFSFF4AVCBQ0IV0?xml=/earth/2007/11/16/scidolly116.xml</a></p>
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