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OK, I’m finally convinced about Hillary’s abilities of leadership. She’s insightfully way out in front of the pack, making the tough calls and right decisions… over and over. I’m thinking the wheels may be beginning to wobble, and might soon come off.________
Clinton Says No to Licenses for Illegals
Nov 15, 2:20 AM (ET)
By DEVLIN BARRETT
WASHINGTON (AP) – Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton on Wednesday came out against granting driver’s licenses to illegal immigrants, after weeks of pressure in the presidential race to take a position on a now-failed ID plan from her home state governor.
Clinton has faced criticism from candidates in both parties for her noncommittal answers on New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer’s attempt to allow illegal immigrants in his state to receive driver’s licenses. Spitzer abandoned the effort Wednesday.
“I support Governor Spitzer’s decision today to withdraw his proposal,” Clinton said in a statement. “As president, I will not support driver’s licenses for undocumented people and will press for comprehensive immigration reform that deals with all of the issues around illegal immigration including border security and fixing our broken system.”
Clinton stumbled when asked about the issue during a Democratic debate two weeks ago, and her new position comes the day before another debate where opponents are expected to raise the issue again.
Rival campaigns made clear they were not letting go of the issue.
“When it takes two weeks and six different positions to answer one question on immigration, it’s easier to understand why the Clinton campaign would rather plant their questions than answer them,” said Barack Obama spokesman Bill Burton, referring to the Clinton campaign’s admission that aides had staged a question for her at an Iowa event.Colleen Flanagan, a spokesman for Chris Dodd, called Clinton’s position “flip-flopping cubed. She was for it before she was against it, before she was for it, before she was against it.”
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20071115/D8STV7C00.html
Former ReganBooks Publisher Judith Regan’s lawsuit charges that News Corp. (includes the Faux Noise Channel) executives tried to destroy her because she knew too much about her ex-boyfriend, former New York City Police Commissioner Bernie Kerik, and that what she knew could be harmful to the presidential hopes of Rudy Giuliani.
According to Regan’s lawsuit, “This smear campaign was necessary to advance News Corp.’s political agenda, which has long centered on protecting Rudy Giuliani’s presidential ambitions.”
Regan and the married Kerik had a well-publicized yearlong affair. Their assignations often took place in a lower Manhattan apartment that had been specifically reserved for the use of workers in the aftermath of 9/11. After Giuliani left the mayor’s office on January 1, 2002, Kerik went to work for him as a consultant at Giuliani Partners. Kerik and Regan broke up later in 2002. In December 2004, according to Regan’s complaint, when President Bush tapped Kerik, at Giuliani’s recommendation, to head the federal Department of Homeland Security, Regan was pressured to keep quiet, and asked to lie on Kerik’s behalf. “[A] senior executive in the News Corp. organization told Regan that he believed she had information about Kerik that, if disclosed, would harm Giuliani’s presidential campaign. This executive advised Regan to lie to, and to withhold information from, investigators concerning Kerik. … [D]efendants knew they would be protecting Giuliani if they could preemptively discredit her.”
Four more years! Four more years!Reelect Clinton. Four more years!
Four more years! Four more years!Bring back the good times! Four more years!
Four more years! Four more years!Get Bill back in power! Four more years!
Interesting, the WE Blog has someone holding recent comments in cache and must be reviewing them before they are allowed to be posted. :)
Barack Obama, who’s been scolding Hillary Rodham Clinton for not hastening the release of records from her time as first lady, says he can’t step up and produce his own records from his days in the Illinois state Senate. He says he hasn’t got any.
“I don’t have _ I don’t maintain _ a file of eight years of work in the state Senate because I didn’t have the resources available to maintain those kinds of records,” he said at a recent campaign stop in Iowa. He said he wasn’t sure where any cache of records might have gone, adding, “It could have been thrown out. I haven’t been in the state Senate now for quite some time.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/14/AR2007111401631.html?hpid=sec-politics
Seems to me that Obama has some explaining to do.
Don’t ask Hillary to do what he can’t do.
Interesting, the WE Blog has someone holding recent comments in cache and must be reviewing them before they are allowed to be posted. :)Posted by: Kansas | November 15, 2007 at 11:35 AM
No, just your posts…For obvious reasons.
I can read your posts and my posts, it’s just the counter for number of posts are not being updated. So, I assume they are being held in a cache.
Besides XXX, I’ve only been posting as Kansas, I have nothing to worry about.
Interesting, the WE Blog has someone holding recent comments in cache and must be reviewing them before they are allowed to be posted. :)Posted by: Kansas | November 15, 2007 at 11:35 AM
Paranoia strikes deep. There’s been rumors flying around that the black helicopters are using their sophisticated computer software to pick up, analyze and deport anybody writing things not approved by bushco.
Just an observation J M Walker.
I suppose yourself and XXX didn’t notice that the posts reflected on the main page wasn’t being updated count wise.
I have no reason to be paranoid as I’m not the one who has been trolling all these months.
You Libs just accused me of it, which of course doesn’t make it true.
Accusation without proof appears to be a common Lib trait.
Hey Walker you might want to read the Thread Best in Show about Hillary.
Seem’s the questions and answers have to be pre-approved for democrats.
I dunno, “XXX” –
One of the first executive orders George WMD Bush issued was extending the time before the National Archives’ papers on the Reagan Administration (including George HW Bush’s antics during Iran-Contra, et al) ’til Shrub would be safely out of office in 2010. Under the previous policy, we would have been able to access Reagan/Bush I records four years ago. Under the new Shrub policy, papers from Clinton’s first term are not to be relased ’til (at least) 2012.
At any rate, they aren’t Senator Clinton’s records, they’re records of Bill Clinton’s presidency. He has requested the Archives release those documents (perhaps disingenuously, since Shrub’s Executive Order holds sway over a a former President’s request… but nevertheless).
As for Obama’s records during his service in the Illinois State Senate, it borders on the absurd to expect an individual legislator with few if any staff members to archive every phone message, memo, or handshake at the capitol coffee shop.
Any way you look at it — from Obama’s or Senator Clinton’s POV — it’s a non-issue and a diversion; a talking point for a day or two that one side or the other hopes might make traction.
But aren’t there more important issues at hand? I mean, really!
As for Obama’s records during his service in the Illinois State Senate, it borders on the absurd to expect an individual legislator with few if any staff members to archive every phone message, memo, or handshake at the capitol coffee shop.Posted by: MonkeyHawk | November 15, 2007 at 12:07 PM
In this day and age?!?!?
Dude, you’ve got to be kidding!
“I suppose yourself and XXX didn’t notice that the posts reflected on the main page wasn’t being updated count wise.”
Uh, do you suppose maybe the counter doesn’t work?
“Interesting, the WE Blog has someone holding recent comments in cache”
You jumped to that comclusion because the counter doesn’t work?!?
WOW!
Besides XXX, I’ve only been posting as Kansas, I have nothing to worry about.
Posted by: Kansas |
Heh.Hehehe.Hehehaha HAHHaHaHaHAHAHAHAH!
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iq7b7Abnxla6a3NamBPUcID9KzYgD8STL2Q02
Edwards has some damn good ideas.
I could support this man.
Edwards Vows to Reverse Trade PoliciesBy MIKE GLOVER – 22 hours ago
DUBUQUE, Iowa (AP) — Democrat John Edwards vowed Wednesday to labor leaders that if elected president he will reverse trade and tax policies — some of them dating from Bill Clinton’s administration — that he said are designed to wipe out middle-class working families.
He introduced his mother and father — Wallace and Bobbie Edwards — to underscore his argument that as the son of a mill worker he understands union issues best among the candidates.
“I grew up in a Carolina mill town and I’ve seen firsthand how people’s lives are devastated when factories close down and those manufacturing jobs are lost,” said Edwards. “Manufacturing has suffered more than any other sector of the economy because of currency manipulation, illegal foreign subsidies, bad trade deals and rising energy and health costs.”
Did Edwards cite any specific laws, or was it just a nice sympathy garnering comment?
AmWay — are you now supporting the Unions??
If my question gets answered, then I’ll try to answer yours.
Well, gee, either you are supporting Unions, or youre not!! LOL
Yes, AmWay–
If you click the link and use phonics to sound-out all the hard words, you’ll find that Edwards particularly singled out NAFTA as the bad deal that it is for American workers.
It also is a bad deal for Mexican workers and is one reason why so many illegals prefer to work in bad jobs here to slowly starving to death in Mexico.
See how our subsidized Round-up Ready Agri-business corn has decimated the small Mexican campasino and his subsistence corn farming methods.
http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0425-30.htm
NAFTA, by permitting heavily-subsidized US corn and other agri-business products to compete with small Mexican farmers, has driven the Mexican farmer off the land due to low-priced imports of US corn and other agricultural products. Some 2 million Mexicans have been forced out of agriculture, and many of those that remain are living in desperate poverty. These people are among those that cross the border to feed their families. (Meanwhile, corn-based tortilla prices climbed by 50%. No wonder many so Mexican peasants have called NAFTA their ‘death warrant.’
NAFTA’s service-sector rules allowed big firms like Wal-Mart to enter the Mexican market and, selling low-priced goods made by ultra-cheap labor in China, to displace locally-based shoe, toy, and candy firms. An estimated 28,000 small and medium-sized Mexican businesses have been eliminated.
Wages along the Mexican border have actually been driven down by about 25% since NAFTA, reported a Carnegie Endowment study. An over-supply of workers, combined with the crushing of union organizing drives as government policy, has resulted in sweatshop pay running sweatshops along the border where wages typically run 60 cents to $1 an hour.
So rather than improving living standards, Mexican wages have actually fallen since NAFTA. The initial growth in the number of jobs has leveled off, with China’s even more repressive labor system luring US firms to locate there instead
Clinton, Rivals Laud Spending Limits, Plan Big Spree (Update1)
By Kristin Jensen and Rich Miller
Nov. 15 (Bloomberg) — Hillary Clinton and her rivals for the Democratic presidential nomination are promising new domestic programs, tax cuts for the middle class and a return to balanced budgets. One problem: Their numbers don’t add up.
The top candidates, Clinton, Senator Barack Obama of Illinois and former Senator John Edwards of North Carolina, all propose more than $150 billion a year in tax breaks for middle- income earners and new federal spending on health care, energy and education. They also pledge “fiscal responsibility,” a phrase Clinton used seven times during an Oct. 30 debate.
While vowing to rein in the alternative minimum tax, they won’t say how they would fix the levy, which is set to raise $400 billion over five years, increasingly ensnaring the middle class. They also rely too much on rolling back tax cuts for the wealthy and overestimate savings from closing loopholes and improving health-care technology, budget experts say.
“The Democrats at least are talking about paying for their proposals, but they’re often using sources of revenue that probably are insufficient to cover what they want to do, or using them more than once,” said Isabel Sawhill, associate director of former President Bill Clinton’s budget office.
Leon Panetta, who served as Bill Clinton’s budget director, said if Democrats don’t “face up to the tough decisions and use real numbers,” it will “come back to haunt them.”
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&sid=a8Nu3kwkMbmU&refer=home
“One problem: Their numbers don’t add up.”
Right.
And where was Bloomberg Financial when Bush was running for office?
All BushCo. had to say was “tax breaks for the rich” and Bloomberg and other media for the rich lined up for the give aways with nary a word about numbers that didn’t — that COULDN’T — add up.
The standard Dem Defense:
ATTACK BUSH!
There is NO OTHER defense for Dems.
Bush certainly deserves to be attacked.
Worst.President.Ever.
Gun Owners, Consider Yourselves Warned…
Getting the Gun VoteBy Sandy FromanFriday, September 28, 2007
As the premier organization representing American gun owners, the National Rifle Association (NRA) has taken center stage in the ongoing election drama. To stop anti-gun presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton, gun owners must unite to protect their Second Amendment rights. With early primaries right around the corner, there’s no time to lose.
Republican presidential candidates lined up to spend time with the NRA at its Celebration of American Values in Washington, D.C. Leading candidates of one of America’s major political parties set aside a day of campaigning to speak to NRA members.
The candidates who took part understand that the gun vote is important. They get it. How things have changed.
When I was first elected to the NRA board of directors in 1992, I could not have imagined that an exclusively Second Amendment event would draw personal appearances by major presidential candidates like Rudy Giuliani, Mike Huckabee, John McCain and Fred Thompson. Even candidates with whom the NRA has disagreed came, looking for common ground and to start a respectful and productive dialogue.
For over a generation now gun control has been a hotly-contested issue in national politics and NRA has been at the forefront of the debate. Occasionally the left has won. Anti-gun forces had their greatest success under Bill Clinton, the darkest years for Second Amendment supporters since NRA’s political apparatus went online.
But since then millions of gun owners have organized under the NRA, and the results have been astounding. George W. Bush beat Al Gore in 2000, and even Bill Clinton acknowledged the NRA played a pivotal role, especially in Tennessee, Arkansas, West Virginia and Florida. In 2002, NRA targeted anti-gun senators and helped secure a pro-Second Amendment Senate majority. In 2004, NRA targeted key states against John Kerry, and defeated Tom Daschle in gun-friendly South Dakota. Even in 2006, most Democrats who won swing seats in the House and Senate openly supported the Second Amendment.
Despite eight years of a Clinton White House, and millions of dollars funneled to anti-Second Amendment causes by leftist millionaire George Soros, MoveOn.org and the Hollywood establishment, gun ownership continues today to be an honored part of our American tradition. The NRA rightly claims much of the credit for that, and has proven to the entire political establishment that America’s 90 million gun owners demand that our nation’s leaders respect their Second Amendment rights.
More and more Americans have come to recognize and appreciate NRA’s contribution. So when NRA created a forum for presidential candidates to express their support for the Second Amendment, almost every major Republican candidate showed up.
But there’s still a lot to do and not much time left.
In Congress and the courts, the left has carefully mapped out an anti-gun agenda. All they need is a president willing to push it though. All they need is another Clinton.
As Ken Blackwell noted in his recent column, Hillary Clinton is the most openly anti-gun presidential candidate in history. She does not even pretend to be friendly to America’s gun owners. She’s a Northeastern liberal with a socialist philosophy, no background or experience with firearms, and fiercely opposes Second Amendment rights. She hates guns, plain and simple. And she doesn’t think much of those of us who value our constitutional right to own them.
Gun owners must elect a president in 2008 who will support and defend the Second Amendment together with the rest of the Constitution. In fact, we can’t claim victory for the Second Amendment until all the candidates of both major parties—Democrats and Republicans alike—are eager to appear before the NRA and its supporters.
This election also will shape the federal courts. The 30-year old DC gun ban was struck down six months ago by a federal appeals court as violating the Second Amendment. DC is asking the Supreme Court to uphold the ban. NRA’s lawsuit over the New Orleans gun confiscation during Hurricane Katrina is set for trial in federal court in a few months. Gun rights are at stake.
If Hillary Clinton is going to be denied the presidency, it will be because American gun owners refuse to let her launch a hostile agenda against the Second Amendment and pack the Supreme Court with anti-gun judges.
To win this election and protect the Second Amendment America’s 90 million gun owners must unite under a common banner. The organization that has been on the front lines of the fight and has delivered for gun owners is the NRA. I hope to see millions more join the NRA to win what will be the toughest fight in history for the Second Amendment.
Who will be president if America’s 90 million gun owners speak with one voice?
Anyone we want.
IF, THAT IS, WE VOTE OUR GUN RIGHTS, INSTEAD OF TRADING OUR RIGHTS FOR “FREE” HEALTHCARE.
[Sandy Froman is past president of the National Rifle Association of America]
http://www.havegunwillvote.com/index.php?sec=news&id=437
Max–
Clinton was in office for eight years and the only anti-gun measures that were passed were the Brady bill and the assualt weapons ban.
The latter was a clear mistake and has since been repealed.
This anti-gun hysteria is used to whip you insecure white men into a lather.
Stop being used as a tool.
Hillary couldn’t take away the 400 million guns in this country even if she wanted to.
And she doesn’t want to.
You really should get some important issue that defines you better than the kind of pathetic: “BY GOD, I own A GUN!”
Yeah . . . I own a gun too. A number of them in fact.
I also own a garden rake and a shovel.
I never saw the need to belong to the National Gardening Tools of America Association.
Ummmm Max — pull your head out long enough to realize that Bill Clinton is a member of NRA, and has been for years!!
Not just Clinton, but a number of other Democratic hopefuls as well!!
Hey, I have garden tools too!! And Shelly had the locals using garden tools as “arms” against the Frankenstein monster in her now famous book… We need to be vewwwy careful CapN!! And vewwwy afwaid!!
CHAS, you LIE. Bill Clinton has NEVER been an NRA member.
You Dems are so AFRAID to speak the truth about Hillary Clinton’s position on Gun Control.
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Ummmm Max — pull your head out long enough to realize that Bill Clinton is a member of NRA, and has been for years!!
Not just Clinton, but a number of other Democratic hopefuls as well!!
Posted by: Chas. | November 15, 2007 at 04:14 PM
HILLARY CLINTON’S VOTES AGAINST GUN OWNERS
Year Link Senate Bill / Amendment Clinton Stand2006SA4615 Prohibition On Confiscation Of Firearms Vote against gun owners.
2005S.397 Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act Vote against gun owners.S.527 Protect Law Enforcement Armor Act Cosponsor against gun owners. No votes taken.S.578 Terrorist Apprehension and Record Retention Act of 2005 Cosponsor against gun owners. No votes taken.S.620 Assault Weapons Ban Reauthorization Act of 2005 Cosponsor against gun owners. No votes taken.S.645 Assault Weapons Ban and Law Enforcement Protection Act of 2005 Cosponsor against gun owners. No votes taken.S.935 Fifty Caliber Sniper Weapons Regulation Act of 2005 Cosponsor against gun owners. No votes taken.SA1615 Cop Killer Bullet Ban Vote against gun dealers and manufacturers.SA1617 Five-seveN and Armor Piercing Ammunition Ban Cosponsor against gun owners. No votes taken.SA1618 FN Five-SeveN, APA and Risk of Injury Openings Cosponsor against gun owners. No votes taken.SA1619 S.397 Exemption for Police Cosponsor against gun owners. Failed on a voice vote.SA1620 S.397 Exemption for Children Cosponsor against gun owners. Vote against gun manufacturers.SA1621 Fifty-Caliber Sniper Weapons Cosponsor against gun owners. No votes taken.SA1623 Gross Negligence Amendment Vote against gun manufacturers.SA1626 Child Safety Lock Act of 2005 Vote against gun manufacturers.2004S.1805 Gun Manufacturer Lawsuit Protection Vote against gun owners.S.2498 Assault Weapons Ban Reauthorization of 2004 Cosponsor against gun owners. No votes taken.SA2619 The ‘Cop Killer Bullet Ban’ Vote against gun owners.SA2620 Trigger Lock Requirement Vote against gun owners.SA2623 National Concealed Carry for Police For police.SA2627 SB1805 Exemption for Victims of DC Snipers Vote against gun manufacturers.SA2628 SB1805 Exemption for Victims of DC Snipers Vote against gun manufacturers.SA2629 SB1805 Exemption for Police Vote against gun manufacturers.SA2630 SB1805 Exemption for Police Vote against gun manufacturers.SA2631 Gross Negligence Amendment to SB1805 Vote against gun manufacturers.SA2635 To modify the definition of ‘reasonably foreseeable’. Vote against gun manufacturers.SA2636 Close ‘Gun Show Loophole’ – restrict private sale of firearms Vote against gun owners.SA2637 Extend the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban Vote against gun owners.2003S.22 Justice Enhancement and Domestic Security Act of 2003 Cosponsor against gun owners. No votes taken.S.1034 Assault Weapons Ban Reauthorization Act of 2003 Cosponsor against gun owners. No votes taken.S.1431 Assault Weapons Ban and Law Enforcement Protection Act of 2003 Cosponsor against gun owners. No votes taken.S.1774 Terrorist Firearms Detection Act of 2003 Cosponsor against gun owners. No votes taken.S.1807 Gun Show Loophole Closing Act of 2003 Cosponsor against gun owners. No votes taken.2001S.16 21st Century Law Enforcement, Crime Prevention, and Victims Assistance Act Cosponsor against gun owners. No votes taken.S.890 McCain / Lieberman Gun Show Loophole Bill Cosponsor against gun owners. No votes taken.SA1231 Kill a HUD Gun Buyback Program Vote against gun owners.—–
Max Chas is a little confused by the NRA Clinton belongs to. That would be National Right to Adultery club. But then Chas is easily confused.
Yeah Capn, like I’ve seen you define any topic you are for, other then Whiny Lil Liberal.
You’ve Seen From Max:
Conservative Fiscal Policies
Curb Federal Spending
Solve Social Security/Medicare Fiscal Crisis
Modified Flat Income Tax Reform
Strong National Defense
Seal the Border
Immigration Reform
Strong Law Enforcement
Defense of Entire Constitution including the 2nd Amendment
Alternative Energy/Environmental Protection Policy
You got that right Ksgrm!
Thanks for the clarification on Chas.
I thought he was totally psycho for a moment.
Well, hell, Max–
If you truly believed in any of those positions, you’d be calling for the impeachment and imprisonment of Bush and everyone who works for him.
He has done more damage in all the areas you cited than anyone in history.
The standard Dem Response:
ATTACK BUSH!
Oh, and btw, none of those bills have the slightest effect on the vast majority of gun owners.
Guess what Capn, none of the bills have the slightest affect on law breaking criminals.
Hell, yes, I attack Bush, Max.
Who else am I supposed to blame for the problems that Bush created?
I blame him because he grew gov’t spending by over 33 percent, more than Johnson during the Great Society largess.
I blame him for passing the most draconian search and seizure and imprisonment without trial laws that have ever been enacted.
I blame him for starting a war without end in the Middle East that serves no purpose except to empower our enemies and kill Americans and suck money out of our treasury.
I blame him for crony capitalism that enriched powerful corporations with taxpayer dollars without oversight or accountability.
And that’s the SHORT list . . .
Gotta go. Meeting with some Rudy people.
Not completely decided though. Still like Fred and Mitt.
You can blame Bush all you want.
What you should worry about, is what exactly your candidate will do FOR America in the next 4 to 8 years.
http://www.ontheissues.org
I also blame Bill Clinton for a lot of things too–
Like not keeping it in his pants when the right-wing witch hunt was in full swing looking for ANYTHING they could dredge up to embarrass the House of Clinton with.
As a result, President-in-Exile Al Gore, who could have been one of the truly great presidents we’ve had in a long time, had a much harder time winning the election that was stolen from him.
Hillary will drive YOU crazy, Max.
That in itself makes it worth supporting her, even though she’s not my first choice.
As a result, President-in-Exile Al Gore, who could have been one of the truly great presidents we’ve had in a long time, had a much harder time winning the election that was stolen from him.
Posted by: CapnAmerica | November 15, 2007 at 05:00 PM
“President-in-Exile” explains it all.
-Sore loser-Sour Grapes-Refusal to believe independent recounts by MSM Newspaper research teams-Refusal to believe recounts by -Florida Counties-Refusal to accept that Al Bore lost his home state (reason to believe he lost for good reason, his own state knew him to be a schmuck)
Wanted to let everyone know that Typepad is having some problem that is making it difficult to post new blog items. That’s why our blogs were late appearing this morning and why there hasn’t been new postings this afternoon. I’m assuming that is why the comment counter hasn’t been working, either. I’ve contacted Typepad throughout the day. They are still working on it — or so they tell me.Phillip Brownlee
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,22763986-952,00.html
A REPORT by Australian scientists has warned that the world is warming faster than predicted by the United Nations’ top climate change body.
The report, prepared by Dr Graeme Pearman, former head of the CSIRO’s atmospheric research unit, found temperatures and greenhouse pollution were rising faster than forecast by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).
The report, prepared for the Climate Institute, noted that the IPCC’s recent Fourth Assessment Report used material published up to mid-2006, but many important new observations had been published since.
“These suggest that the IPCC assessment is underestimating the risks of adverse impacts due to increased warming during this century and that impacts previously considered to be at the upper end of likelihood are now more probable,” the report reads.
“Greenhouse emissions are rising faster than the worst-case IPCC scenarios.”
The report found if current trends continue the world’s temperature will rise approximately three degrees celsius by the end of this century, relative to pre-industrial temperatures – well above what are considered dangerous levels.
The IPCC reported the concentration of carbon dioxide had increased from a pre-industrial value of 280 parts per million to 379 ppm in 2005.
“The most recent data show that present-day carbon dioxide concentration is now over 382 ppm,” the new report said.
The report also says that recent scientific work suggests the capacity for the land and oceans to absorb carbon dioxide emissions is declining.
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Oh, well.
Continue on with a massive unplanned experiment with the only atmosphere we’ve got.
It’s just a matter of “personal responsibility.”
Don’t have sex, kids–f**k the environment instead . . .
Thanks for the update, Phillip.
MAX — you are very wrong… I heard Clinton several times admit to being a member of the NRA… That was during BOTH of his campaigns… Dont you and Germie be calling ME a Liar!! NOT THIS TIME!!! Both of you are a couple of Reich Wing Nut cases!! Geez!! Do your own damned research!!
Yea, thanks Phillip… but would Phillip NOT use a blue, underlined Nic?? Hmmm???
Actually the administrator for a Typepad blog can change the comments of any poster, sign the comments as he/she wishes and other thing I shan’t reveal here. :)
Since Phillip Brownlee didn’t have a typepad sign in link, one can assume he didn’t use it or doesn’t have a typepad account or he just didn’t want to. :)
Comment counter is working again.
“As a result, President-in-Exile Al Gore, who could have been one of the truly great presidents we’ve had in a long time…”
Posted by: CapnAmerica______
I’ve been curious about the environment of the parallel universes I’ve seen mentioned on this blog. And, as I asked someone several days ago, I’m also interested in yours, Capn. What color is the sky in your world?
Hi Davy!
Ya know? I’ve a suspicion you are a few nuts short of a snickers bar. I wonder if you could help me confirm it?
Would you call goeorge bush a good president? a great president?
It helps me deal with the addled if I know just how far gone they are.
Kansas, did you have to study real hard to be a snooty smart A$$, or were just born with it in your DNA??
Kansas, did you have to study real hard to be a snooty smart A$$, or were just born with it in your DNA??
Posted by: Chas. | November 15, 2007 at 05:42 PM
What?
Because I have Type Pad Blogs and know what they do?
Are you jealous or just someone who talks with their foot in their mouth?
Chas,
Kansas is so wise to the ways of Type Pad that he revealed his real identity.
Please, Chas, for the good of all sentient readers, walk on by.
Kansas is so wise to the ways of Type Pad that he revealed his real identity.
Please, Chas, for the good of all sentient readers, walk on by.
Posted by: CapnAmerica | November 15, 2007 at 05:51 PM
I know your real identity, but have enough good sense not to release it on the WE Blog.
Or should I say, good sense,good manners and proper ethics.
E-mail me and tell me who I am.
“Who will be president if America’s 90 million gun owners speak with one voice?”
Perhaps the next “conservative” posier who rails about how “the Libs” march in lockstep will be chastened by this tidbit of NRA rhetoric.
Give me a flip flopper any day over the ‘decider’ who is so staunchly wrong on EVERY single issue out there.
I want someone in the office who will listen to reason, change opinion based on discussion and flexible with experts. Had Bush been a little more flip flopperish, we would probably be a lot better off.
religious home
You MEAN cult compound. And there was some other illegal activity going on in there to. Polygamy, child neglect, child abuse, rape, etc.
They could have surrendered anytime.
BS hater. Reno was NOT AG when the original raid took place; it was run by holdovers from the Bush 1 administration. And the Feds did not kill them; your hero Vernon Howell did that.
Cult, Church – either way it was their leader Vernon Howell who torched it.
Cult!
They do not get to violate the laws of the United States and the state of Texas just because they are inside their church stronghold.
And get in your real nic or don’t bother us further.
No lie hater. Reno came in AFTER the original raid took place. She DID, however, approve delegating authority for subsequent actions to the FBI in the field.
And then YOUR guy Howell torched the place.
YOU are the one with the lies.
“On February 28, 1993, the U.S. Treasury Department’s Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) conducted a raid on Mount Carmel, a property of the Davidians”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Branch_Davidian
She was nominated by President Bill Clinton on February 11, 1993, and confirmed on March 11.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janet_Reno
March 11 was AFTER February 28.
Janet Reno personally ordered and approved the final assault. She even said as much. You cannot pass the buck.
And since when in America do we order tanks and barbed wire around a church full of women and children?
The outcome would NOT have happened had cooler heads prevailed.
But go ahead, liberals, live in your dream land and PRETEND it didn’t happen or that the babies killed deserved to die.
Don’t tell me about Bush destroying the constition! Wait until Hillary bans all assault weapons (semi auto), and brings out the tanks on you.
You are correct that Reno foolishly followed the advice of the holdovers in the field. However, THAT was AFTER the original raid took place. And that had been set in motion even before inauguration so it would blow up on Clinton.
And, it was your hero Howell who torched the place.
Hater – You are one of the reasons I hope Hillary gets elected – to see you sputter!
By the way – I never said they deserved to die. That was your guy Howell who did that.
March 11 was AFTER February 28.
Posted by: Ben | November 15, 2007 at 07:21 PM
Unless you’re talking about the year before, then it isn’t. :)(joking of course)
The BATF pretty much fouled up WACO, it was a tactical exercise of incompetence.
Although I never did like the “Reno” she had little to do with the outcome at Waco. The ground commanders at Waco royally screwed up the whole thing.
And, when you look at the preparation involved, you see that it was set in motion prior to January 20, 1993. By the same people behind Ruby Ridge.
Nobody would have died at Waco, if Vernon Howell would have surrendered to the Warrant that was legally served on him. That warrant was served BEFORE Janet Reno was approved to be the A.G.
That post has already been made here. Howell was lost in his own little world about some idiotic 7th Seal prophecy from the biblical sci fi book of revelation… He believed that the Warrant issued for his arrest was a part of the proof of the Beast of Revelation.
For that reason, 86 people died. I couldnt believe it when I saw the flames coming out of the INSIDE of the building… I told friend of mine: The idiot torched his own compound!! And so it was, that he had killed his own people all over some minuscule bible verse or two…
Hooee! I just learned the new system for deciding who to vote for… “You are one of the reasons I hope Hillary gets elected – to see you sputter!” Everybody make sure you pick your president based on the way it will make people you dont like sputter. Sounds logical to me.
I know who i’m voting for now.
Well done, Ben, smacking down another right-wing lie.
Thank God that people like Hillary Hater is on their side . . .
Comment – she is not my #1 choice; Richardson is. However, against any of the GOP field I’ll vote for her if she is the niminee.
“I have no reason to be paranoid as I’m not the one who has been trolling all these months.”
Kansas, I never said you were paranoid, but that kinda supports my post, doesn’t it.
I dont much care who these debate watchers are in Las Vegas… They could be Dems, Repubs, or Libertarians, or whatever — I wish they would grow up, and stop acting like they are there rooting for the UNLV Roadrunners!! They are cheering, and booing, and applauding like they are at some blasted BALL GAME!! I am a long time sports enthusiast… But a political debate isnt the time for such “fan” type activities… I keep waiting for the “cheerleaders” to come flying out from the wings!!
Maybe thats one of the things that is WRONG with this country!!
Between our “bring it on” president, and these cheering “fans” at a debate, I think the whole country has its priorities screwed up!!
By BETH FOUHY, Associated Press Writer
10 minutes ago
LAS VEGAS – Under pressure in a feisty campaign debate, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton said Thursday night the American people “know where I stand” and accused her rivals of distorting her record and slinging mud “right out of the Republican playbook.”
Poor Hill, maybe someone should call the whaambulance for her
http://foxnewsporn.com/
Check out all the porn from the family values and personal responsibility channel.
Hey, Parkay, let’s hear you go ballistic on Fox News, eh?
Senator Clinton did well.
Killer line of the night.
“They aren’t attacking me because I’m a woman. They are attacking me because I’m ahead.”
Edwards is slimy. No WAY I vote for him. Ditto Obama. Congressman Kucinich did well but I find his attitude as to illegals a deal buster. Can’t vote for him.
Biden did ok when they would let him talk.
Losers Edwards, Obama.
Winners Biden, Clinton
Also there Richardson, Dodd
JR?
What debate are you watching?
The one I’m watching is still on . . .
Okay, now it’s over.
These “debates” are like a rugby match where everybody just scrambles for the ball in a kind of scrum.
Why Biden and Richardson and Dodd are still sucking the oxygen out of the room, I don’t know.
No cat, and no tapes hater. The siege etc was poorly handled as Kansas also notes. However it was Vernon Howell who torched the place. The blame for the deaths lies on Vernon Howell. And all of your lies will not change that fact.
Hater – you would be funny if you weren’t so pathetic. You must be another follower of the false prophet Howell.
Wow whoever is posting as Hillary Hates Guns either doesn’t know the facts or is flat out lying. I vote for lying…seems you can’t get an honest neocon.
Hey hater – if you choose to burn down yor own house whose fault is it? YOURS! Even if you claim that your God told you to do it.
With Ron Paul that never would have happened.
I don’t see why not Ed. Howell was as determined for mass murder/suicide as Jim Jones was in Guyana.
Acceptable conduct from the Bush administration? No.
Oh? The administration that had a sharpshooter shoot Vicki Weaver in the head? Whose administration was still in when the planning for Waco took place. Whose holdovers were acting heads of ATF and FBI?
HARDLY!
Clinton mahe a HUGE mistake by not cleaning house from day one. Almost two months passed before he had his person in as AG; that gave a lot of time for mischief by Bushies. Longer for many other offices. There was no excuse for that; clinton should have had his Cabinet ready for nomination on inauguration day.
What tape recording? IT WAS THE TRUTH! YOU ARE A VERNON HOWELL CULTIST. GO TORCH YOURSELF LIKE YOUR PROPHET DID!
Ms. Howell – there sure were a lot of bullets coming from INSIDE that place. Go join Vernon and burn.
To try to save them from a child rapist. I know you’d just leave them there, but hey, I’m glad they tried to do something about this guy.
hater – there were a number of differences there. Bush fired those he had appointed because they wouldn’t toe the line in a sufficiently partisan manner.
You are really funny hater – but even more pathetic.
Have fun.
Capn,
Thank you for the 5:16 PM link, ‘Climate change worse than predicted’.
Climate change is happening so fast, the U.N.’s IPCC may have to make reports more often. Or at least provide updates.
‘UN panel in ‘difficult’ debate over global warming paper’http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5iO5tSUKHWTVtF5vzaSrRcuNjBy0w
“UN climate experts wrangled here Tuesday over a landmark document on global warming amid criticism that the draft report was bland and some of its findings out of date.”More at link.
Dr. Pearman also made a very solid comment about AGW skeptic Bob Carter.
http://www.smh.com.au/news/environment/minchin-denies-climate-change-manmade/2007/03/14/1173722560417.html
“A former CSIRO climate scientist, and now head of a new sustainability institute at Monash University, Graeme Pearman, said Professor Carter was not a credible source on climate change. “If he has any evidence that [global warming over the past 100 years] is a natural variability he should publish through the peer review process,” Dr Pearman said. “That is what the rest of us have to do.” ”
http://www.dar.csiro.au/profile/pearman.html
People need to stop believing that inaccurate newspaper op-eds are more credible than the huge amount of peer-reviewed climate science. We’re wasting precious time.
Sorry I didn’t get back to your badmouthing me earlier yesterday. Guy has to work once in awhile.
But I did respond with facts, not that you care to ever read any of those on the New war cost estimate may be high.
CapnAmerica you can call me all the nasty names you want (you are much worse than Kansas), and attempt to spin the numbers any way you want – but neither makes for the truth.
From the United States Treasury, and the approved limits established by Congress, our national debt increased under Bill Clinton:
09/30/1993 4,411,488,883,139.3809/30/2000 5,674,178,209,886.86
These are facts certifiable and verifiable from both the Congressional Budget office and public records of legislation, as well as the US Treasury.
Spin on. Your mother needs to provide you a bar of soap for that nasty mouth of yours.
to bad it wasnt your kids Vernon Howell was having sex with, bet you would see it different then.or unless it was his right to guns that made that o.k.
Ben
The communists want to pick-up the guns.
The Fascists want to pick-up the guns.
The Zionist-Jews want to pick-up the guns.
Why?
So the People can’t fight back.
Is freedom free?
No.
You can’t have a reasonable discussion with a Waco Whacko.
xxx,Of course Obama will not turn over records of his 8 years in the Illinois state senate for publicscrutiny. That’s where he worked to promote and protect the live-birth abortions being committed inChicago.
MAX — you are very wrong… I heard Clinton several times admit to being a member of the NRA… That was during BOTH of his campaigns… Dont you and Germie be calling ME a Liar!! NOT THIS TIME!!! Both of you are a couple of Reich Wing Nut cases!! Geez!! Do your own damned research!!
Posted by: Chas. | November 15, 2007 at 05:22 PM
Yeah Chas, that’s why the NRA gave Bill Clinton a rating of F-.
Now leaving the Twilight Zone….
Georgia Congressman Paul Broun on Wednesday announced the introduction of the “Sanctity of Human Life Act,” legislation (H.R. 4157), which declares that humanlife begins at fertilization and is vested at that time with a Constitutionally protected right to life. 39 original cosponsors also thumbed their noses at theleftist, activist, baby-hating members of the U.S. Supreme Court.- – -
As mayor of New York, Rudy Giuliani appointed 75 judges to three different courts, the ones the New York Mayor gets the right to appoint, and Democrats outnumbered Republicans eight-to-one. One of the judges he appointed was head of the International Association of Lesbian and Gay Judges.Never, never, never trust a RINO.It is a lie that the President can do little about abortion except appoint judges. The executive branch of the federal government has immense capabilities for interfering with businesses, even contract killing businesses.- – -
Howard Rodenberg is suddenly no longer director of health for the Kansas Department of Health and Environment (one of the state departments that has been criminally refusing to enforce the Kansas post-viable abortion ban). Richard Morrissey is now acting heath director.Anybody suspicious?
Here it comes folks, the Janet Reno decision to kill the kids in Waco:
JIM LEHRER: What was your darkest day or what was your darkest time during these eight years?
JANET RENO: Well, you were there. I was… It was Waco.
JIM LEHRER: Yeah, yeah. I’m sure you’ve spent a lot of time thinking about that. What went wrong?
JANET RENO: One… It’s obvious what went wrong, but one will never know what the right answer was, because one doesn’t know what Koresh would have done two weeks later without any provocation, so we just have to learn. And one of the things that I think it’s important to do is to make sure that the FBI, when it… rather than inheriting situations, designs the initiative from the beginning.
JIM LEHRER: You kind of burst out on the public scene as a result of Waco, as a result of your saying, “I was responsible. I made the decision, and I will live with it.” Is that how you feel about it now, too?
JANET RENO: I sure do.
JIM LEHRER: You do bear… you do feel you were responsible?
JANET RENO: I made the decision.
JIM LEHRER: And did you make the decision… do you think you made the wrong decision?
JANET RENO: I’ll never know. Clearly, if I knew then what I know now, I wouldn’t do it, but I don’t know whether I could have avoided it down the line. There are those that have reviewed this case in-depth and said he could have done the same thing two weeks later with people not bothering him at all.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/politics/jan-june01/reno_1-18.html
Prove me wrong, Max… C’mon, old boy, put up or shut up!! I am calling you out on this one… PROVE me wrong… I heard him say it at least twice!!
Hi parkay
I’ve a suspicion you are Phil Kline. But that remains to be seen.
My kid is 13 parkay. YOUR president just took away his health care.
Now, you’ll want to take him to task for that, won’t you?
I mean you are really pro life aren’t you? I had insurance when my son was born. Now I don’t.
You’ll blame me. You will say it is my fault my son has no health care.
I was there as best I could for him when he was born. Where were you? I’m still there as best I can for him now.
Where are you?
Max, you dont prove anything at all with that post… Of course Reno says she was responsible… She was the top rung on the DOJ ladder. She ALSO says he could have done the same thing two weeks later… Howell was a certifiable NUT CASE — He had taken the wives of other men in his “church”(cult) as his own, and was screwing with underage girls!! Good grief man, WHY would you want to defend the JERK?? HOWELL set off the fire that burned up the compound… Go back and watch the video… The TANKS didnt start the fires… they knocked holes in the building!!
For God’s sake man, WAKE UP OUT OF YOUR FRIGGIN STUPOR!!!
Provide a link as proof that Bill Clinton was an NRA member Chas.
It’s YOUR assertion, not mine.
I can’t prove a negative.
You can prove a positive, UNLESS you are WRONG!
Max, using YOUR logic on Waco, you could just as easily claim that the visit by the Congressman to Jonestown, caused the Jonestown Massacre!! Same logic as you are using to try to blame Reno/Clinton for Waco…
And just as idiotic of a conclusion!
Sure you can Max… All you have to do is find the proof!!
I made my statement… If you cant disprove what I say, just shut up!! Thats the reasonable way to handle it…
Chas, there are little green micro organism aliens in your brain.
Go prove that I am wrong.
Chas, if you can’t disprove what I say, that you have little green micro organism aliens in your brain, then just shut up!
Check out your good buddy Rudy, while I am looking for something else…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UV1HuPofNws&feature=related
“Here it comes folks, the Janet Reno decision to kill the kids in Waco:”
BS Max. Nowhere did she say that she ordered howell to torch the place.
Note also “It’s obvious what went wrong, but one will never know what the right answer was, because one doesn’t know what Koresh would have done two weeks later without any provocation, so we just have to learn. And one of the things that I think it’s important to do is to make sure that the FBI, when it… rather than inheriting situations, designs the initiative from the beginning.”
the refernce to inheriting the situation – WHICH SHE DID – INHERIT IT. CHECK THE TIMELINE.
“The NRA is controlled by the gun lobby. The more crime there is in America the more people who are armed, the more guns they sell. That’s why President Bush resigned his membership in the NRA. I am on the side of law and order and Republicans are on the side of law and order. And it’s time that we let our Republican leaders know where we stand.
The Waco Issue
I watched the Waco hearings and was shocked to see Republicans supporting David Koresh. This is a guy who was raping 10 year old girls and it doesn’t look like we’re in tune with “Family Values” to be siding with Koresh. Granted that the FBI screwed up, but Koresh was the one who set the building on fire and murdered those 80 people. And we Republicans should not be siding with those who rape and murder because the NRA gives Republicans money to do so.”
http://www.perkel.com/politics/clinton/repub.htm
Max, it was George H.W. Bush’s PEOPLE who led the attack on Waco… They did a good job… They were Republicans!!
You argue against it, and that means you argue against your own PEOPLE!! Cause you sure arent a Democrat!! LOL
I cant locate the references where Clinton said he was a member of the NRA… But one of his statements was during all the uproar over the Assault Weapons Ban of 1994… It might have even been in his State of the Union Message that year… BUT… at some point I will find it… Be very sure of that!!
What a worthless piece of legislation the Assault weapons ban was.
Chas, there are little green micro organism aliens in your brain.
Go prove that I am wrong.
Posted by: Max | November 15, 2007 at 11:01 PM
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Max, that is just the kind of foolishness that makes you totally discredited by anything else you might post here…
What I said about Clinton is FACT… What you just claimed above is pure, 100% pure BS…
I wonder how many more Vernon Howell’s there are out there stockpiling those ohhh soooo valuable assault weapons, eh Nathan??? How many more Vernon Howell’s out there raping 10 yr. old girls in the name of some “god” or some “cause” because some “voice” in his head tells him he is supposed to bring a message of the “eternal” to the merely mortal??
Those are the kind of people you gun bangers defend… I pity you all!!
Good Nite!!
New Statistics On The Cost Of Illegal Immigration
This information is confirmed by Mike Cutler, a former senior special agent with the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service, who says the high number of Americans killed by illegal aliens is only part of the collateral damage that comes with tolerating illegal immigration. An adviser for Family Security Measures, he estimates some 2,158 murders are committed every year by illegal aliens in the United States. Here are some statistics that bear out this report:
Ninety-five percent of warrants for murder in Los Angeles, Calif. are for illegal aliens.
Eighty-three percent of warrants for murder in Phoenix, Ariz. are for illegal aliens.
Eighty-six percent of warrants for murder in Albuquerque, N.M., are for illegal aliens.
Seventy-five percent of people on the “Most Wanted” list in Los Angeles, Phoenix, and Albuquerque are illegal aliens.
Twenty-five percent of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals who are here illegally.
Forty percent of all inmates in Arizona detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally.
Forty-eight percent of all inmates in New Mexico detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally.
Twenty-nine percent (630,000) convicted illegal alien felons occupy our state and federal prisons at a cost of $1.6 billion annually.
More than 53 percent of burglaries in California, New Mexico, Nevada, Arizona, and Texas are perpetrated by illegal aliens.
More than half of all gang members in Los Angeles are illegal aliens from south of the border.
More than 70 percent of all cars stolen in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, and California are stolen by illegals.
Forty-seven percent of drivers stopped by police in California have no license, insurance, or registration; and of that 47 percent, 92 percent are illegal aliens.
Sixty-three percent of stopped drivers in Arizona have no license, insurance, or registration for the vehicle. Of that 63 percent, 97 percent are illegal aliens.
Sixty-six percent of stopped drivers in New Mexico have no license, insurance, or registration; and of that 66 percent, 98 percent are illegals.
A recent study by Pew Hispanic Center reveals Hispanics are two times more likely to be incarcerated than non-Hispanics.
They are 3.8 times more likely to be imprisoned for murder than non-Hispanics and Hispanic youth are more likely to be found in gangs.
Fifty-five percent of Mexican Americans consider themselves to be Mexican first.Lastly I am A LEGAL Mexican and it is a total slap in the face that we let these people in the U.S.A. !!
Max, using YOUR logic on Waco, you could just as easily claim that the visit by the Congressman to Jonestown, caused the Jonestown Massacre!! Same logic as you are using to try to blame Reno/Clinton for Waco…
And just as idiotic of a conclusion!
Posted by: Chas. | November 15, 2007 at 10:58 PM
By using your same logic Chas and Ben, the State Department is a terrorist organization that caused Blackwater to kill Iraqis.
MAX — you are very wrong… I heard Clinton several times admit to being a member of the NRA… That was during BOTH of his campaigns… Dont you and Germie be calling ME a Liar!! NOT THIS TIME!!! Both of you are a couple of Reich Wing Nut cases!! Geez!! Do your own damned research!!
Posted by: Chas. | November 15, 2007 at 05:22 PM
Prove me wrong, Max… C’mon, old boy, put up or shut up!! I am calling you out on this one… PROVE me wrong… I heard him say it at least twice!!
Posted by: Chas. | November 15, 2007 at 10:48 PM
From the NRA Website:
“U.S. Presidents And The NRA
Eight U.S. Presidents have been NRA members. They are Ulysses S. Grant, Theodore Roosevelt, William Howard Taft, Dwight D. Eisenhower, John F. Kennedy, Richard M. Nixon, Ronald Reagan and George Bush.”
http://www.nracentral.com/presidential-members-nra.php
You can tell when Chas is lying by the amount of “!!” he uses in his statements.
Typical Lib, make things up first and then force people to prove them wrong.
It gets tiresome to keep showing the lies that Chas and other Libs spew.
By using your same logic Chas and Ben, the State Department is a terrorist organization that caused Blackwater to kill Iraqis.
Posted by: Kansas | November 16, 2007 at 02:37 AM
=========================YES!!! YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT!!!
By using your same logic Chas and Ben, the State Department is a terrorist organization that caused Blackwater to kill Iraqis.
Posted by: Kansas | November 16, 2007 at 02:37 AM=========================YES!!! YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT!!!
Posted by: Chas. | November 16, 2007 at 04:06 AM
You do realize how wacko that sounds.
The blog’s #1 schizophrenic is calling others wacko?
Ok….
Weren’t you leaving? You said you were.The editors want you to you know. Whole blog too.
Tighten up that loose nut in your brain J R.
I said that “sounded” wacko.
I never called anyone wacko.
Whole blog being who exactly J R?
You and your “WE Red Faction Army?”
Sorry, that’s not the whole blog.
Some one tell me that your website is very good !I do think so!