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Talk about an inconvenient truth for good ole Al…verified by Snopes.com. Seems Al talks a good story..but doesn’t seem to “walk the walk”.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/house.asp
Finally tonight, as promised, a Special Comment on the meaning of the story of former U.S. Acting Assistant Attorney General Daniel Levin.
It is a fact startling in its cynical simplicity and it requires cynical and simple words to be properly expressed:
The Presidency of George W. Bush has now devolved into a criminal conspiracy to cover the ass of George W. Bush.
All the petulancy, all the childish threats, all the blank-stare stupidity;
All the invocations of World War Three, all the sophistic questions about which terrorist attacks we wanted him not to stop, all the phony secrets;
All the claims of executive privilege, all the stumbling tap-dancing of his nominees, all the verbal flatulence of his apologists…
All of it is now — after one revelation last week — transparently clear for what it is: the pathetic and desperate manipulation of the government, the re-focusing of our entire nation, towards keeping this mock president, and this unstable vice president, and this departed wildly self-over-rating Attorney General — and the others — from potential prosecution for having approved or ordered the illegal torture of prisoners being held in the name of this country.
“Waterboarding is torture,” Daniel Levin was to write.
Daniel Levin was no theorist and no protestor.
He was no troublemaking politician.
He was no table-pounding commentator.
Daniel Levin was an astonishingly patriotic American, and a brave man.
Brave not just with words or with stances — even in a dark time when that kind of bravery can usually be scared — or bought — off.
Charged — as you heard in the story from ABC News last Friday — with assessing the relative legality of the various nightmares in the Pandora’s box that is the Orwell-worthy euphemism “Enhanced Interrogation,” Mr. Levin decided that the simplest, and the most honest, way to evaluate them… was to have them enacted upon himself.
Daniel Levin took himself to a military base and let himself be water-boarded.
Mr. Bush — ever done anything that personally courageous?
. . .
Now if that’s what this is all about — you tortured not because you’re so stupid you think torture produces confession — but you tortured because you’re smart enough to know it produces really authentic-sounding fiction — well, then… you’re going to need all the lawyers you can find… because that crime wouldn’t just mean impeachment, would it Sir?
That crime would mean George W. Bush is going to prison.
http://thenewshole.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/11/05/449846.aspx
Keith Olbermann–please avoid flying in small planes or standing near steep falls . . .
Hey JM, try posting just the link instead of a book. That way I have less to skip over.
Sorry, no, Filler.
I don’t click on naked links, and I don’t expect others to either.
Have you heard? Congress is moving past subpeonas to handing out contempt charges.
Looking forward to seeing the criminals running the country finally facing justice.
Ashamed–
What conservatives have the liberals ever run off?
I only wish . . .
More soldiers (U.S.) killed in Iraq so far this year than in all of the years since war began. Is this the great success Rhonda was cheer leading?
Probably phantom, we seem to have a holding ground for our troops rather than battling it out with the enemy.
The left won’t be happy until they turn this blog into their personal playground. They think they’re entitled to it; after all, they have a monopoly on “truth.” Just ask them, they’ll tell you. And they’ll badger and harass anyone who dares to disagree with them.
Even when he’s gone.
If he’s gone. Personally, I hope he’s not.
The left believes in diversity of opinion, unless, of course, there’s real diversity of opinion. That cannot be tolerated.
But its for our own good, ’cause the left is for “the people.”
Of course they are.
They rejoice at making a human being feel so bad they leave.
I think the below posts cover it completely:
When it is just you and a couple of other liberals left, have fun in your little circle jerk.You can all rejoice in the rewards of your stupidity by constantly telling each other how wonderful you are uninterupted.Posted by: Nathan | November 06, 2007 at 12:22 AM
JR, grow up. JM,JM, JM, JM, grow up. Kansas has done his mea culpas over and over again. Stick a fork in it. Get on with a life.If there ever was a point to this, you’ve pissed it away. At this point, I’m with Kansas. There’s no point to an open thread if it devolves to this, over and over again.
Grow up.Posted by: GMC70 | November 06, 2007 at 12:30 AM
Rox,
You come from the forum where everyone claims to be so much better.
Where is that attitude here?
Regardless of what it is many here accuse Kansas of doing, what do I see?
I see 10 times more posts attacking him than he is even accused of doing himself.
Several posters are obsessed with Kansas to the point of absurdity.
The only thing they have proved is that Kansas is a far more valuable poster to this forum than they are.
Pakistan.
Very dangerous situation right now. An unstable government in a country full of nukes.
You Libs think it’s ok for any country to have nukes to defend itself. You think it’s hypocrisy for America to demand a monopoly on The Bomb. You Libs think it’s no big deal if Iran or any other country develops or buys The Bomb.
Let’s see what you all think about Nuclear Proliferation when the s*it hits the fan in Pakistan.
I hope it doesn’t happen, but we could have some radical terrorist groups with a cache of Nukes soon.
It is difficult to see what prompted the “departure” of “Kansas”. The editors banned him multiple times, he would find ways around those barriers and continued to post. He is nearly universally reviled by other posters here. He made terroristic threats that he shrugged off as “letting off steam” – he received at least temporary consequences for these offenses. None of the preceding dissuaded him from using all the oxygen here he could get.
I predict he will be back soon under a new nic. Some problems require tolerance (and I am not saying that the problems he created were insignificant) – he may be one of those. I state the preceding because I do not know what the alternative would be under the current blog format.
“He is nearly universally reviled by other posters here”
That would be false.
Suck it, Libs.
“The Senate Judiciary Committee voted Tuesday to send Michael Mukasey’s nomination for attorney general to the full Senate, voting 11-8 to recommend approving him.”
Steven,
What is a terroristic threat, Did he say he was going to bomb your home?
Kansas may have said a few stupid things, but for the most part he posts like anyone else does.
He just does it much more often.
I hope he comes back.
“I hope it doesn’t happen, but we could have some radical terrorist groups with a cache of Nukes soon.”Posted by: Max
Talk about constructing a straw man to tear it down. Jeez, that post was even lower in integrity that your usual rants, Maxine. Who says besides you, say that Liberals want countries full madmen to have nukes. Jeez, I repeat.
The Liberal John Edwards has argued against deposing Musharraf, because we might get a worse dictator to deal with.
Maxine, your trying to make this a partisan issue is a sure sign of your abject hackery. As if, any more examples of that were necessary.
Nathan,
Of course, he did not threaten to bomb my house. He melted down one night and made repeated threats to disrupt and shut down this blog — others had termed that a terroristic threat — I doubt very seriously if that would qualify for the statutory definitions of the crime, but if you think of terroristic threats as destroying a space – it would metaphorically qualify. I wish to not argue with you, the most concrete thinker I have ever known, about this analogy. But thanks for offering.
Stevie, I don’t see any of you Libs taking a hard stand on preventing Iran from developing nukes.
There have been several discussions in the past, where Libs have taken the view that non-proliferation is not a big issue.
Stevie, you willing to take a stand now, or wait until after the Big Boom?
Funny,
Kansas may have threatened to shut down the blog (after being poked and prodded by the left)
Yet the only ones who actually resorted to this tactic were the JM clowns.
Hey boy,
You going to Quantico next month? Call me.
Pa
Time and time again, I see post after post after post attacking kansas and calling him a troll.
He finally resorts to saying something threatening and then you jump on him for that.
Kansas was of your own creation. Your JM actions against him only served to prove who the real blog terrorists are.
If you think you won anything by that you are wrong.
The only thing you won was the complete lack of respect from me.
It might not mean much to you, but it is the truth.
Hey Max,I’m just dying to see how you turn the situation in Pakistan into a hit on Hillary. You know, Musharraf is your daddy Bush’s buddy.
Max,I heard on the news last night that Rudy has the Mob vote. If you were the Independent you say you are, I’d think you’d be all over that.And wasn’t that one of Fred’s staff that resigned after it was made public that he’d been a drug dealer and a bookie?
Tell us all about it, Max. Let’s see how “Independent” you really are.
Come on XXX,
Hillary has the union vote! That would make her and Rudy even if the union wasn’t bigger crooks!
Hank
JR,
Kansas has never said anywhere near the same mean things that I have seen the likes of CapnAmerica and others here say.
I am not defending Kansas.
I am saying what you and others did is wrong. It is just as bad if not worse than what you accused Kansas of doing.
Steven,I like the phrase “abject hackery,” but I might have added a little alliteration and used “hopeless hackery” to add a little light-hearted poetry to your surly assault of Max’s only slightly shortsighted suggestion that Libs leave little leeway for opposing opinions on international issues — like the bomb. As I stated yesterday (and then was jumped by JM, JM and JM, who then me assaulted with ad hominem, after ad hominem), I’m fairly new in town and would enjoy hearing and contributing to the marketplace of ideas on this blog. I’m hoping there’s a chance of turning this nasty nic-nuking around around so that we’ll appear, at least, to have a few brain cells to rub together. I fear the JM may be incorrigible, and maybe one or two others, but you seem to do fairly well. Having stated that, perhaps a few less uses of the “Jane, you ignorant slut” approach would somehow help us all just get along. If we can’t seem to pull out of the personal aspect, I guess I’ll find another marketplace for my two brain cells.
Steven Davis I am disappointed in you. JR, KFG and JM whoever he/she is are beneath you. You write some well thought out posts. You want to see others with an opposing opinion weigh in. I thought you recognized the value of seeing what the other side thought and felt.
Kansas was much more patient than I would have been. I for one will miss his fervor in expressing opinions he knew would get the far left after him.
This blog with a few exceptions is very boring and that is shown by the lack of posters with anything substantive to post.
The far left has completely destroyed what was a good blog.
XXX,
I expected more from you on this.
You being the one who called the liberals on being unable to leave Kansas alone.
I guess in the end, all your little posts at 5 in the morning meant nothing.
So who is next on your list?
Who next is not deserving to be here and should be run off?
ThinkFast: November 6, 2007
The U.S. military announced the deaths of five more soldiers today, “making 2007 the deadliest year of the war for U.S. troops. … At least 852 American military personnel have died in Iraq so far this year — the highest annual toll since the war began in March 2003, according to AP figures.”Sixty percent of Americans favor withdrawing U.S. forces, a new high, while just 9 percent favor increasing troop levels. “At the same time, relatively few, 17 percent, favor an immediate withdrawal of all U.S. forces, matching its average in polls since 2006.”
69 percent: Number of Americans who believe that waterboarding is torture, according to a new CNN poll. Another 58 percent say that the U.S. government should be barred from using the procedure “to try to get information from suspected terrorists.”
Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) pens an op-ed in the NYT explaining why he will vote for Mukasey, arguing that he “would do a good job in turning the department around.” He adds that Congress is now considering legislation that would explicitly ban the use of waterboarding, and he is “confident that Judge Mukasey would enforce that law” should it pass.
President Bush urged Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf to hold elections and give up his army post “as soon as possible,” but “gave no indication that the general’s imposition of emergency rule would bring about any significant change in American policy.” Members of Congress said they will review aid to Pakistan, but did not immediately propose a cutoff or reduction.
“Six years after the September 11, 2001, attacks, Al Qaeda is a potent threat to the West and will take at least a generation to defeat, according to the most recent assessment by the head of Britain’s intelligence agency, MI5.”
“Rich nations’ greenhouse gas emissions rose close to an all-time high in 2005, led by U.S. and Russian gains despite international curbs meant to restrict global warming, United Nations data showed.”
“The number of Iraqis fleeing their homes has more than quadrupled since the U.S. troop buildup began in February, leaving 2.3 million Iraqis displaced and further dividing the country along sectarian lines.” If violence is decreasing in Iraq, it may be because insurgents “are running out of people to kill,” House Appropriations Committee Chairman David Obey (D-WI) said.
The nationwide average gas price went above $3 a gallon Monday, “to the highest in more than three months as climbing oil prices pushed up prices at the pump. … The average gas price has never topped $3 in November, a development that adds to uncertainty about how much consumers will spend when faced with higher energy bills.”
And finally: The entire House delegation from New England has signed on to an official commendation of the Red Sox after the team’s recent World Series win. The bill — stating in part that the team “epitomized sportsmanship, selfless play, team spirit, determination, and heart” — picked up 21 members, three more than supported a similar one in 2004. Rep. Stephen Lynch (D-MA) added in a statement, “God is good.”
It’s not like he wasn’t given chance after chance to post responsibly Nathan.
That’s what really burned me. When other folks stood up for him and then he went right back to the threats and multi nics. Even Capn afforded him every opportunity.
Wait a minute…
I have responded to a XXX post and a JR post which are gone.
Am I the only one seeing this or am I crazy?