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	<title>Comments on: Open thread 11/05</title>
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		<title>By: JM</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/open-thread-1-4/#comment-162665</link>
		<dc:creator>JM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 14:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the &quot;solution&quot; is simple. Grow up. Respond to arguments, not nics.

******

GMC, that&#039;s EXACTLY what we&#039;re doing by posting as JM.

Since no one (i.e., Kansas) knows who we are, they have to respond to THE POST, not the POSTER.

What you don&#039;t like apparently is that you and Kansas and the others of your ilk on the right can&#039;t needle us with personal cheap-shot.

If you really believe what you say, you&#039;d be posting as JM too.  After all, &quot;respond to the post, not the nic.&quot;

Isn&#039;t that what you just said.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the &#8220;solution&#8221; is simple. Grow up. Respond to arguments, not nics.</p>
<p>******</p>
<p>GMC, that&#8217;s EXACTLY what we&#8217;re doing by posting as JM.</p>
<p>Since no one (i.e., Kansas) knows who we are, they have to respond to THE POST, not the POSTER.</p>
<p>What you don&#8217;t like apparently is that you and Kansas and the others of your ilk on the right can&#8217;t needle us with personal cheap-shot.</p>
<p>If you really believe what you say, you&#8217;d be posting as JM too.  After all, &#8220;respond to the post, not the nic.&#8221;</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t that what you just said.</p>
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		<title>By: kscitydude</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/open-thread-1-4/#comment-162664</link>
		<dc:creator>kscitydude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 11:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Posted by: GMC70 &#124; November 06, 2007 at 12:30 AM

GMC70, thank you.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Posted by: GMC70 | November 06, 2007 at 12:30 AM</p>
<p>GMC70, thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Kansas</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/open-thread-1-4/#comment-162663</link>
		<dc:creator>Kansas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 08:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well cosmos,you calling me a liar twenty times a day does get old.

Perhaps you should learn to be more civil instead of being a jerk.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well cosmos,you calling me a liar twenty times a day does get old.</p>
<p>Perhaps you should learn to be more civil instead of being a jerk.</p>
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		<title>By: cosmos</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/open-thread-1-4/#comment-162662</link>
		<dc:creator>cosmos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 08:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/weblog200711open-thread-1-4html/#comment-162662</guid>
		<description>&quot;Kansas has done his mea culpas over and over again. Stick a fork in it. Get on with a life.&quot;

Posted by: GMC70 &#124; November 06, 2007 at 12:30 AM

You are 100% right GMC70...

Your friend Kansas&#039; &quot;mea culpas&quot; are posted just 20 minutes before your post.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/open-thread-1-4.html#comment-88875396&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/open-thread-1-4.html#comment-88875396&lt;/a&gt;

/sarcasm OFF!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Kansas has done his mea culpas over and over again. Stick a fork in it. Get on with a life.&#8221;</p>
<p>Posted by: GMC70 | November 06, 2007 at 12:30 AM</p>
<p>You are 100% right GMC70&#8230;</p>
<p>Your friend Kansas&#8217; &#8220;mea culpas&#8221; are posted just 20 minutes before your post.</p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/open-thread-1-4.html#comment-88875396" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/open-thread-1-4.html#comment-88875396</a></p>
<p>/sarcasm OFF!</p>
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		<title>By: GMC70</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/open-thread-1-4/#comment-162661</link>
		<dc:creator>GMC70</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 06:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good God.

JR, grow up.  JM,JM, JM, JM, grow up.  Kansas has done his mea culpas over and over again.  Stick a fork in it.  Get on with a life.

If there ever was a point to this, you&#039;ve pissed it away.  At this point, I&#039;m with Kansas.  There&#039;s no point to an open thread if it devolves to this, over and over again.

I&#039;ve had enough of this for one night.  Perhaps tomorrow, adults will act like adults.  Or this endless idiocy will continue.  There are other places to read, other blogs to contribute to where one can actually exchange ideas, and disagree, without the endless carping.  I enjoy this one, because it&#039;s local.  But there are other options.

You&#039;ve got a good thing here, provided to you for free, by the Eagle.  Rather than enoy it, and behave like a guest, you all are proceeding to abuse your privilege.  At some point, the Eagle may decide the hassle is not worth it.

How many bitching e-mails will the editors get before they decide a blog, which generates no revenue, is not worth the trouble?

Any wonder that the number of regular posters has dwindled?  Most people won&#039;t put up with this crap; they move on.

And they&#039;re right.  Move on.  Get over it.  End it.

Grow up.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good God.</p>
<p>JR, grow up.  JM,JM, JM, JM, grow up.  Kansas has done his mea culpas over and over again.  Stick a fork in it.  Get on with a life.</p>
<p>If there ever was a point to this, you&#8217;ve pissed it away.  At this point, I&#8217;m with Kansas.  There&#8217;s no point to an open thread if it devolves to this, over and over again.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had enough of this for one night.  Perhaps tomorrow, adults will act like adults.  Or this endless idiocy will continue.  There are other places to read, other blogs to contribute to where one can actually exchange ideas, and disagree, without the endless carping.  I enjoy this one, because it&#8217;s local.  But there are other options.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve got a good thing here, provided to you for free, by the Eagle.  Rather than enoy it, and behave like a guest, you all are proceeding to abuse your privilege.  At some point, the Eagle may decide the hassle is not worth it.</p>
<p>How many bitching e-mails will the editors get before they decide a blog, which generates no revenue, is not worth the trouble?</p>
<p>Any wonder that the number of regular posters has dwindled?  Most people won&#8217;t put up with this crap; they move on.</p>
<p>And they&#8217;re right.  Move on.  Get over it.  End it.</p>
<p>Grow up.</p>
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		<title>By: JM</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/open-thread-1-4/#comment-162660</link>
		<dc:creator>JM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 06:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;When it is just you and a couple of other liberals left, have fun in your little circle jerk.&quot;==============================

And yet another reference to body parts or  something sexual, when totally unnecessary.  This is exactly the kind of thing that is objected to by so many!

Nathan  that comment was so totally not necessary!  But, it would seem that you were compelled to use it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;When it is just you and a couple of other liberals left, have fun in your little circle jerk.&#8221;==============================</p>
<p>And yet another reference to body parts or  something sexual, when totally unnecessary.  This is exactly the kind of thing that is objected to by so many!</p>
<p>Nathan  that comment was so totally not necessary!  But, it would seem that you were compelled to use it.</p>
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		<title>By: J R</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/open-thread-1-4/#comment-162659</link>
		<dc:creator>J R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 06:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said as ever Monkeyhawk.

What we say here means something or it does not.

It is our choice.

CLEARLY the editors have no interest.

We can have this forum be credible or not.

I work to the former.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said as ever Monkeyhawk.</p>
<p>What we say here means something or it does not.</p>
<p>It is our choice.</p>
<p>CLEARLY the editors have no interest.</p>
<p>We can have this forum be credible or not.</p>
<p>I work to the former.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/open-thread-1-4/#comment-162658</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 06:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JR,

I did see that.  So what?

And you are exactly right about one thing, you are acting like a little kid with this.

Just as I was wrong to be so absurd with you and saying the things I did about you and your son to prove a point, you too are just as wrong to do the same things Kansas is doing to prove a point.

The only thing you are doing is driving even more people away from this blog including me.

When it is just you and a couple of other liberals left, have fun in your little circle jerk.

You can all rejoice in the rewards of your stupidity by constantly telling each other how wonderful you are uninterupted.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JR,</p>
<p>I did see that.  So what?</p>
<p>And you are exactly right about one thing, you are acting like a little kid with this.</p>
<p>Just as I was wrong to be so absurd with you and saying the things I did about you and your son to prove a point, you too are just as wrong to do the same things Kansas is doing to prove a point.</p>
<p>The only thing you are doing is driving even more people away from this blog including me.</p>
<p>When it is just you and a couple of other liberals left, have fun in your little circle jerk.</p>
<p>You can all rejoice in the rewards of your stupidity by constantly telling each other how wonderful you are uninterupted.</p>
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		<title>By: JM</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/open-thread-1-4/#comment-162657</link>
		<dc:creator>JM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 06:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/weblog200711open-thread-1-4html/#comment-162657</guid>
		<description>I&#039;m sorry Nathan -- But I have only seen a small handful of posts attacking Kansas &quot;personally&quot; the past couple of days.

I have seen some others that have attacked some of Kansas&#039; tactics in dealing with other posters.

Other than a very few, I just havent seen the personal attacks on Kansas that you are talking about.  Sorry!!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry Nathan &#8212; But I have only seen a small handful of posts attacking Kansas &#8220;personally&#8221; the past couple of days.</p>
<p>I have seen some others that have attacked some of Kansas&#8217; tactics in dealing with other posters.</p>
<p>Other than a very few, I just havent seen the personal attacks on Kansas that you are talking about.  Sorry!!</p>
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		<title>By: MonkeyHawk</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/open-thread-1-4/#comment-162656</link>
		<dc:creator>MonkeyHawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 06:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I kinda like the &quot;JM&quot; tactic.  Since my RL initials are JM, some people have accused (or credited) me for what&#039;s been going on here.

Not guilty.

But it comes back to how these forums (fora?) should work.  A real &quot;Max&quot; post on Hillary&#039;s gonna steal your guns or a real &quot;parkay&quot; post about how every sperm is sacred, or a real &quot;Kansas&quot; post about how George WMD Bush is second incarnation of the Christ means more than any or all of the graffiti trolls&#039; sophomoric rhetoric.

If you&#039;ve got an opinion, share it and stand by it.  You can be anonymous by using a nic, but at least be honest enough to be associated with what you think or believe or advocate.

Or, in the words of the poet, STFU.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I kinda like the &#8220;JM&#8221; tactic.  Since my RL initials are JM, some people have accused (or credited) me for what&#8217;s been going on here.</p>
<p>Not guilty.</p>
<p>But it comes back to how these forums (fora?) should work.  A real &#8220;Max&#8221; post on Hillary&#8217;s gonna steal your guns or a real &#8220;parkay&#8221; post about how every sperm is sacred, or a real &#8220;Kansas&#8221; post about how George WMD Bush is second incarnation of the Christ means more than any or all of the graffiti trolls&#8217; sophomoric rhetoric.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;ve got an opinion, share it and stand by it.  You can be anonymous by using a nic, but at least be honest enough to be associated with what you think or believe or advocate.</p>
<p>Or, in the words of the poet, STFU.</p>
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		<title>By: awinters</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/open-thread-1-4/#comment-162655</link>
		<dc:creator>awinters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 06:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/weblog200711open-thread-1-4html/#comment-162655</guid>
		<description>See ya&#039;ll later. Lights OUT!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See ya&#8217;ll later. Lights OUT!</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/open-thread-1-4/#comment-162654</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 06:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/weblog200711open-thread-1-4html/#comment-162654</guid>
		<description>JR,

I don&#039;t want you banned.  I don&#039;t want anyone banned.

I would like to come to the blog and not have to wade through 50 posts of you, CapnAmerica, KFG, and whoever else doing nothing but calling Kansas a troll and attacking him.

If you think he is a troll then ignore him.

XXX had you all pegged though.  You just can&#039;t resist post after post after post of trying to get Kansas.

Maybe Kansas did do some nic switching, maybe he did troll, but all I see anymore is non stop attacks on Kansas from you and several others which doesn&#039;t do anything.

Now you guys are being even worse with the JM crap.

The only thing you are doing is pissing away any credibility you might have had in calling Kansas a troll.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JR,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want you banned.  I don&#8217;t want anyone banned.</p>
<p>I would like to come to the blog and not have to wade through 50 posts of you, CapnAmerica, KFG, and whoever else doing nothing but calling Kansas a troll and attacking him.</p>
<p>If you think he is a troll then ignore him.</p>
<p>XXX had you all pegged though.  You just can&#8217;t resist post after post after post of trying to get Kansas.</p>
<p>Maybe Kansas did do some nic switching, maybe he did troll, but all I see anymore is non stop attacks on Kansas from you and several others which doesn&#8217;t do anything.</p>
<p>Now you guys are being even worse with the JM crap.</p>
<p>The only thing you are doing is pissing away any credibility you might have had in calling Kansas a troll.</p>
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		<title>By: Kansas</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/open-thread-1-4/#comment-162653</link>
		<dc:creator>Kansas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 06:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/weblog200711open-thread-1-4html/#comment-162653</guid>
		<description>For example, how could Kansas use his false, ad hominem rants about me being an 8th grade dropout, if I&#039;m not &quot;cosmos&quot;?

Kansas would have to instead post rational, logical responses to the content of my posts.

Posted by: cosmos &#124; November 06, 2007 at 12:04 AM

Please cosmos, everyone knows your tactic of posting off topic in threads that have nothing to do with GW or anything that we discussed before and you&#039;re usual posting involves in calling me a troll, a liar and etc.

You are a poster that most here on the blog agree are very disruptive as you take things to personal and will post nonsense and personal attacks with off topic remarks in threads that have nothing to do with the topic.

Get real cosmos, you are among the worst abusers of attacks.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For example, how could Kansas use his false, ad hominem rants about me being an 8th grade dropout, if I&#8217;m not &#8220;cosmos&#8221;?</p>
<p>Kansas would have to instead post rational, logical responses to the content of my posts.</p>
<p>Posted by: cosmos | November 06, 2007 at 12:04 AM</p>
<p>Please cosmos, everyone knows your tactic of posting off topic in threads that have nothing to do with GW or anything that we discussed before and you&#8217;re usual posting involves in calling me a troll, a liar and etc.</p>
<p>You are a poster that most here on the blog agree are very disruptive as you take things to personal and will post nonsense and personal attacks with off topic remarks in threads that have nothing to do with the topic.</p>
<p>Get real cosmos, you are among the worst abusers of attacks.</p>
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		<title>By: awinters</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/open-thread-1-4/#comment-162652</link>
		<dc:creator>awinters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 06:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/weblog200711open-thread-1-4html/#comment-162652</guid>
		<description>this isn&#039;t nathan click on my name. I&#039;m not him, I&#039;m ashley.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this isn&#8217;t nathan click on my name. I&#8217;m not him, I&#8217;m ashley.</p>
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		<title>By: awinters</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/open-thread-1-4/#comment-162651</link>
		<dc:creator>awinters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 06:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/weblog200711open-thread-1-4html/#comment-162651</guid>
		<description>Actually it does serve a purpose, it shows that bad side of what an issue can do to a crowd of online people.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually it does serve a purpose, it shows that bad side of what an issue can do to a crowd of online people.</p>
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		<title>By: awinters</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/open-thread-1-4/#comment-162650</link>
		<dc:creator>awinters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 06:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/weblog200711open-thread-1-4html/#comment-162650</guid>
		<description>Maybe they should invite a person to watch the blogs all day long!

No that would be wrong!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe they should invite a person to watch the blogs all day long!</p>
<p>No that would be wrong!</p>
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		<title>By: Kansas</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/open-thread-1-4/#comment-162649</link>
		<dc:creator>Kansas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 06:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/weblog200711open-thread-1-4html/#comment-162649</guid>
		<description>Whoever or Whomever is posting as JM needs to know that you are not exactly innocent either.

You&#039;re long list of calling names, assigning body parts and various relationships is well known and often displayed here on the WE blog.

Just look at your own posts and you will find what you have (all of you) have done is as bad and usually much worse than I ever did.

The problem is/was is that you can&#039;t let it go.  You carry grudges around with you like a warm fuzzy.  You feed on grudges and need them.

The difference is I can let things go and press on.

Evidently, the multiple personality JM, you cannot because of what you are doing now.

As I said before, I don&#039;t run, I don&#039;t care and I don&#039;t cower under the tactics you are using.  The only time you are wasting is yours.

I also recommended that the open thread be killed as it no longer serves any purpose.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoever or Whomever is posting as JM needs to know that you are not exactly innocent either.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re long list of calling names, assigning body parts and various relationships is well known and often displayed here on the WE blog.</p>
<p>Just look at your own posts and you will find what you have (all of you) have done is as bad and usually much worse than I ever did.</p>
<p>The problem is/was is that you can&#8217;t let it go.  You carry grudges around with you like a warm fuzzy.  You feed on grudges and need them.</p>
<p>The difference is I can let things go and press on.</p>
<p>Evidently, the multiple personality JM, you cannot because of what you are doing now.</p>
<p>As I said before, I don&#8217;t run, I don&#8217;t care and I don&#8217;t cower under the tactics you are using.  The only time you are wasting is yours.</p>
<p>I also recommended that the open thread be killed as it no longer serves any purpose.</p>
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		<title>By: awinters</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/open-thread-1-4/#comment-162648</link>
		<dc:creator>awinters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 06:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys just get along, I know a 5-year old that can do a better job than you guys!

I enjoy these blogs, but some people ruin them!

Phillip where are you at!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys just get along, I know a 5-year old that can do a better job than you guys!</p>
<p>I enjoy these blogs, but some people ruin them!</p>
<p>Phillip where are you at!</p>
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		<title>By: cosmos</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/open-thread-1-4/#comment-162647</link>
		<dc:creator>cosmos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 06:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;What if the Blog simply removed the use of Nics on the Blog, and thus forced posters to stick to discussions, instead of rantings against other posters?

Maybe that would be beneficial to all?&quot;

Posted by: JM &#124; November 05, 2007 at 11:37 PM

No, I&#039;m sorry JM, but that would NOT work.

For example, how could Kansas use his false, ad hominem rants about me being an 8th grade dropout, if I&#039;m not &quot;cosmos&quot;?

Kansas would have to instead post rational, logical responses to the content of my posts.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What if the Blog simply removed the use of Nics on the Blog, and thus forced posters to stick to discussions, instead of rantings against other posters?</p>
<p>Maybe that would be beneficial to all?&#8221;</p>
<p>Posted by: JM | November 05, 2007 at 11:37 PM</p>
<p>No, I&#8217;m sorry JM, but that would NOT work.</p>
<p>For example, how could Kansas use his false, ad hominem rants about me being an 8th grade dropout, if I&#8217;m not &#8220;cosmos&#8221;?</p>
<p>Kansas would have to instead post rational, logical responses to the content of my posts.</p>
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		<title>By: JM</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/open-thread-1-4/#comment-162646</link>
		<dc:creator>JM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 06:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And yet, another personal attack!

Maybe it&#039;s hopeless.  I hope not.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And yet, another personal attack!</p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s hopeless.  I hope not.</p>
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		<title>By: JM</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/open-thread-1-4/#comment-162645</link>
		<dc:creator>JM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 06:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have seen various posters castigated terribly for such simple things as &quot;typos&quot;  instead of dealing with the issue posted.

I think it is that kind of thing that has caused a momentary diversion away from using Nics.

Perhaps you might encourage folks to stop with the highly personal attacks,  involving a wide variety of subjects/topics.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have seen various posters castigated terribly for such simple things as &#8220;typos&#8221;  instead of dealing with the issue posted.</p>
<p>I think it is that kind of thing that has caused a momentary diversion away from using Nics.</p>
<p>Perhaps you might encourage folks to stop with the highly personal attacks,  involving a wide variety of subjects/topics.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/open-thread-1-4/#comment-162644</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 06:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JR,

The only thing you have proven is that you and whoever is doing all the posting as JM are far far worse than you accuse Kansas of being.

I have been posting here for quite a bit.

I have yet to see all this evidence against Kansas for trolling.

All that I continue to see is constant posting by you and others attacking Kansas and Kansas trying not to get sucked into it.

If you are trying to show how stupid you can be, well, congratulations you have done just that.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JR,</p>
<p>The only thing you have proven is that you and whoever is doing all the posting as JM are far far worse than you accuse Kansas of being.</p>
<p>I have been posting here for quite a bit.</p>
<p>I have yet to see all this evidence against Kansas for trolling.</p>
<p>All that I continue to see is constant posting by you and others attacking Kansas and Kansas trying not to get sucked into it.</p>
<p>If you are trying to show how stupid you can be, well, congratulations you have done just that.</p>
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		<title>By: JM</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/open-thread-1-4/#comment-162643</link>
		<dc:creator>JM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 05:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/weblog200711open-thread-1-4html/#comment-162643</guid>
		<description>GMC - Would that many actually would respond to what is posted, and not respond to posters, with false allegations, and constant mockeries of vocations, and body parts, and various relationships.

I believe that is what needs to be fixed.  On the part of ALL posters!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GMC &#8211; Would that many actually would respond to what is posted, and not respond to posters, with false allegations, and constant mockeries of vocations, and body parts, and various relationships.</p>
<p>I believe that is what needs to be fixed.  On the part of ALL posters!</p>
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		<title>By: GMC70</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/open-thread-1-4/#comment-162642</link>
		<dc:creator>GMC70</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 05:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/weblog200711open-thread-1-4html/#comment-162642</guid>
		<description>&quot;You know I am fair.&quot;

Uh-huh.  Say it enough, and even you will believe it . . .

&quot;SOME posters are giving you the forum that &quot;kansas&quot; JM wants.

And yes I am in favor of what they are doing so as not to make this forum all that way all the time.&quot;

Take a long step back, and read that.  Tell me it makes sense.  C&#039;mon, JR, you&#039;re smarter than that.  This amounts to &quot;gosh, X is childish, so to prove a point, I&#039;m gonna be childish too.&quot;

Yea.  Brilliant.  You must be very proud.

You all had a point, once.  But the &quot;solution&quot; has long since eclipsed the problem as the the problem.

And the &quot;solution&quot; is simple.  Grow up.  Respond to arguments, not nics.  Ignore the obvious bait.  Be responsible for yourself, and quit worrying about policing the blog.  It&#039;s a free form forum; it is what it is.  No matter how much you want to make it so, it&#039;s not your personal playground to dictate terms on.

Sometimes liberals have a tendancy to tilt at windmills.  You&#039;ve got a big windmill here.  You can live with it, or drive yourself nuts (and readers too) trying to fix what cannot be fixed.  If you can&#039;t live with it, find another forum.  Your call.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You know I am fair.&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh-huh.  Say it enough, and even you will believe it . . .</p>
<p>&#8220;SOME posters are giving you the forum that &#8220;kansas&#8221; JM wants.</p>
<p>And yes I am in favor of what they are doing so as not to make this forum all that way all the time.&#8221;</p>
<p>Take a long step back, and read that.  Tell me it makes sense.  C&#8217;mon, JR, you&#8217;re smarter than that.  This amounts to &#8220;gosh, X is childish, so to prove a point, I&#8217;m gonna be childish too.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yea.  Brilliant.  You must be very proud.</p>
<p>You all had a point, once.  But the &#8220;solution&#8221; has long since eclipsed the problem as the the problem.</p>
<p>And the &#8220;solution&#8221; is simple.  Grow up.  Respond to arguments, not nics.  Ignore the obvious bait.  Be responsible for yourself, and quit worrying about policing the blog.  It&#8217;s a free form forum; it is what it is.  No matter how much you want to make it so, it&#8217;s not your personal playground to dictate terms on.</p>
<p>Sometimes liberals have a tendancy to tilt at windmills.  You&#8217;ve got a big windmill here.  You can live with it, or drive yourself nuts (and readers too) trying to fix what cannot be fixed.  If you can&#8217;t live with it, find another forum.  Your call.</p>
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		<title>By: JM</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/open-thread-1-4/#comment-162641</link>
		<dc:creator>JM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 05:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>J R  --  dont push the issue.  Let&#039;s not rehash all that has  already  passed before.  OK?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J R  &#8212;  dont push the issue.  Let&#8217;s not rehash all that has  already  passed before.  OK?</p>
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