News of the death last week of 78-year-old former federal Judge Patrick Kelly would have brought to mind Wichita’s abortion battles — if they’d ever really left local headlines since the 1991 protests and arrests that pushed Kelly into an unwanted national spotlight.
Few judges face the kind of pressure Kelly did during those tense weeks of Summer of Mercy demonstrations, including death threats and calls for impeachment. And fewer still would have shown as much courage as Kelly did, as his determination not to let protesters deny access to Wichita’s abortion clinics put him at odds with the protesters, local elected leaders, the Justice Department and seemingly his Roman Catholic beliefs.
“You know with all this going on, you just have to be disciplined, draw on your roots, stay firm and follow the law,†Kelly told the New York Times, just days after a controversial appearance on ABC’s “Nightline.†Abortion warriors may still see Kelly as part of the problem, but his view should resonate for many today: “I have a duty to carry out the law, and Roe is the law.â€
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A conservative who believed in carrying out the law first and in pursuing his personal agenda second.
Boy, that is old school.
Good thing he didn’t work in Bush Justice Department.
They’d have to fire him.
Another abortion thread, out of all the topics to choose…
Judge Kelly was a hero for standing up to the Christian terrorists. The city of Wichita should do something to recognize this honorable man.
“I have a duty to carry out the law, and Roe is the law.”
Exactly.
No matter where one stands on the culture war over abortion.
Peace to Judge Kelly, and his family.
Wow. a nonactivist judge. One who follows the law, not creates it. Fantastic. He should be a role model for all.
HERE was a good and just man and faithful steward of our justice system.
He wasn’t a conservative. They only care when the ruling goes in their favor, everything else is just fluff.
He was probably excommunicated from the Church…that’s Church law.
Judge Kelly is entitled to the same mercy in the next life that he showed to innocent babies being mangled, dismembered, poisoned, and beheaded in Kansas abortion mills.Perhaps just one millstone will not be enough.(Matthew 18:6; Mark 9:42; Luke 17:1-2)
You are one SICK individual parkay.
You should rot in HELL!
parkay you have such passion.
I hope you use it in ways that help others. I hope you do not save it all for your posts here. That would be not necessarily a waste but it would be a shame.
You can NOT break the law to enforce the law.
Police officers are charged with crimes when they break the law, in serious cases. It does not matter if they broke the law while enforcing another law. In less serious cases, maybe the police officer isnt charged with a crime, but the suspect the officer arrested is released.
JUDGE PATRICK KELLY BROKE THE LAW, REPEATEDLY!
The Wichita Eagle tarnished the good name of Democrat former Sedgwick County Treasurer Jan Kennedy, when announcing HER death, because Jan Kennedy defeated the Eagle, in the Eagles attempts to consolidate power at the County level. Therefore, the Eagle has been known to use the death of its enemies as an opportunity to drive home a point.
Therefore, it is only fair that the friends of the Eagle suffer the same treatment.
Judge Patrick Kelly violated judicial ethics by appearing on Nightline to discuss a case before him.
Judge Patrick Kelly violated judicial ethics by personally directing the U.S. Marshals, by cell phone, during the protests.
Judge Patrick Kelly violated Judicial Proceedure time and time again in his courtroom.
Judge Kelly drank on the job. He mixed up several people’s names. I have many of the transcripts in my possession, the man was unintelligible on many occassions.
Judge Kelly violated the terms of the Ku Klux Klan Act, which he used to force his own, personal political views.
The KKK Act required that Kelly show:
1.)Class-based Animus (hatred)2.)Under the color of law (meaning that he had to show that government agencies were behind the protest.)3.)In order to deny a civil right.
The Supreme Court of the United States declared that the KKK Act could NOT be used against Operation Rescue.
The 10th Circuit Court of Appeals, in Denver, went even further.
That Court removed Judge Patrick Kelly from all cases involving Operation Rescue, even those cases not direrctly connect to the KKK Act Civil Lawsuit filed by late term abortionist George Tiller.
Several criminal cases were then heard by a different Judge.
This was due to Judge Patrick Kelly’s GROSS misconduct.
Judge Kelly was a tyrant on the bench.
I forgive him his misdeeds.
Why not?
I kicked his ass in court!
I been waiting for that one.
Paulecon and the good judge have a history as you can see.
Rant away Paul! Speak ill of the dead to your hearts content.
This should be a red letter bookmarking thread now!
I should add, of course:
EVERY ruling made by Judge Kelly that was even remotely related to Operation Rescue was vacated, reversed and sent to a NEW Judge.
This was done deliberately by the 10th Circuit in Denver as a public rebuke of Judge Patrick Kelly for violating the Codes of Judicial Conduct.
Judge Kelly was as couragous a man as I have ever known. I was priviledged to have known him personally. And I know that in everything he did, and in every decision he made, he did what he knew was right, without regard to what may have been popular or easy. He indeed should be memorialized in Wichita. He was certainly a hero of mine. Rest in peace, Papa.
I told the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals, in a written motion, that Judge Kelly had alcohol on his breath during my hearing and that I deserved a new hearing for that reason alone.
The 10th Circuit never responded directly to my motion, instead, the 10th Circuit granted EVERYONE who had been in Kelly’s Courtroom, Civil Cases and Criminal Cases alike, a new hearing.
How is it “courageous” to do what the liberal media and the political left WANT you to do?
How is it “courageous” to get fawning liberal media attention?
How is it “courageous” for a man how lost, when he ran as a Democrat for Congress, to pick a fight with a Republican President?
By the way, the man who filed the Justice Department motion to appeal many of Kelly’s rulings?
LOL Lee Thompson, another failed Congressional candidate.
Country Club Republican RINO Lee Thompson has been kissing Tillers ass ever since.
Here, we will see the real personage of one Paulecon.
My count so far has only the….passionate…parkay on board with you Paulie.
But don’t let THAT stop you. Keep showing how you “forgive” this judge in all caps.
The charge against you was child endangerment as I recall?
Parkay and Paul, two anti-american fascists who love to put down a good man. You two going to join Phelps in protesting his funeral?
JRYou are a malicious liar — and rather ignorant on legal matters as well.
You have been told the truth, previously. In order to win a lawsuit againts YOU for libel or slander, I would have to prove “malice” which is PRIOR knowledge, before you made your statements against me, that your statements were false.
You are clearly guilty and legally libel for libel, JR.
The fact is, as you know, I was NEVER charged with ANY crime, period!
Judge Patrick Kelly was the original, presiding judge in a civil (not criminal) case brought by late term abortionist George Tiller, who improperly filed his lawsuit under the KKK Act.
I was never charged, under any city, county, state or federal law, with any crime concerning anti-abortion protests, at any time in my life.
Judge Kelly’s own “Order” claimed that only those who had previously been arrested, and appeared in Wichita Criminal Court, were subject to his “Order”, along with anyone who willfully disobeyed the orders of the US Marshals that were communicating with Kelly, daily, over cell phones. Also covered were those who “conspired” with anyone to break Kelly’s illegal order.
Kelly DIRECTED that I be picked up.
I was politically involved and I had personally gotten off-duty police officers removed from George Tillers private security detail due to their misconduct on the job.
Kelly ordered that I be picked up, even though I had NOT violated his own, illegal “order” in any way shape or form.
It is a violation of judicial ethics for a judge to dictate law enforcement misconduct, in the field, but that is what Kelly did.
When the Donelly children ran into the street and crawled under a car, I went berserk.
I yelled at the kids to get out of the street and out from under the car.
I walked past the barricade, with the permission of the police on the scene at the time, and leaned under the car, begging Claire Donelly, then 17, to get out from under the car.
Claire said to me, “Sir, if I were pregnant, and going into that building to get an abortion, you would have no right to stop me, what gives you the right to tell me what to do, now?”
I did not know what to say, in response.
I wish I had thought of the “serenity prayer” but I was taken aback by Claire’s poise and could not respond.
The police then asked me to get back behind the barracade and I complied immediately.
about 15 minutes later, Wichita Police Chief Rick Stone, still mad at me for getting one of his officers in trouble and removed from Tiller private security duty, had a conversation with a US Marshal. They both passed a cell phone or walkie-talkie back and forth between them
A few minutes later, I was asked to walk towards a waiting white van, owned by the US Marshals.
I was never read my rights.
The Marshal driving the van was on the phone.
“Yes, we have 11 now, and they are bringing the 12th one. Yes, we have HIM, he is one of them. I understand, you only want 12, your honor.”
Twelve is the number of chairs in the jury box, where Kelly had his PRIME TIME media event staged that Friday.
We were all told that we had “Violated” Kelly’s order. We were then released and told to come back to court the following Monday.
That following Monday was the firt time anyone told me that I was accused of telling the kids to go INTO the street, the exact opposite of what I really tried to do.
Scott Pelly told the world, that following Monday, that Kelly had accused ME of sending the kids into the street.
What Pelly did not say about Kelly?
Kelly had made arrangements for the SRS to take the Donelly kids into custody it they showed up to testify in my defense.
What Kelly did not know?
Claire Donelly had just turned 18 over the week end. However, she was NOT allowed into the court room when she presented herself to the Marshals, with a drivers license.
Legally, a Federal judge has virtually NO authority over juvenile matters.
No “Federal” Child Endangerment criminal statute exists, to my knowledge.
When given a chance, on Monday, to state my case, I said clearly that:
I had not violated his order, even if I did not agree with it.
I had not told anyone else to violate Kelly’s order.
I had no intention of violating the “order” in the future.—-Here is where Kelly, again, violated Civil Proceedure:
Kelly entered my hearing as “Purged” — meaning that Kelly found that I had admitted my “guilt” and agreed not to violate his order “again”.
I DID NO SUCH THING!
I have the transcripts to prove it!
I also put George Tiller in the awkward position of having to state, in writing, that I had NOT broken any law.
By claiming that I had not broken any law, and that there were no charged against me, and that I had no criminal record and was not covered, therefore, by Judge Kelly’s order, Tille hoped to kill my appeal before the 10th Circuit.
That attempt failed.
There are vicious, evil peoplle out there who WOULD claim I was guilty, if I had not appealed my CIVIL LAWSUIT finding of CIVIL CONTEMPT.
The 10th Circuit Court of Appeals agreed with ME, and denied Tiller’s motion to DISMISS my case, which Tiller made based on my INNOCENCE, in Tiller’s own words!
The 10th Circuit later gave me a new hearing, reversing EVERYTHING Kelly had done.
I did not even have to show up.
The new Federal Judge, here in Wichita read my motions and found in my favor, dismissing the Civil case.
DougPhelps is a worm.
However, I think that the ACLU SUPPORTS Phelps.
The ACLU never supports the free-speech rights of pro-lifers.
Here we have our crucible where Paulecon will finally melt down.
JRYou aren’t smart enough to even understand what a hypocrite you are.
You want “due process” for terrorists, but you do not want “due process” for your political opponents?
Many very learned and very liberal legal experts were absolutley appauled by the gross misconduct of Judge Patrick Kelly.
He was a disgrace.
Yes, I forgive him.
I won, remember? I defeated Judge Kelly. Howeer, his abuse of my rights actually catapulted me to a brief position of real power in the Republican Party, just prior to Senator Bob Dole’s run for President.
Yes, I forgive the misguided tyrant.
But that does not mean that I will allow the Eagle to cannonize his misbehaviour.
JRDefender of civil rights for those who agree with JR!
delusions of grandeur Paulecon? Oh MY what ELSE do you have for us?
i STILL think you are the guy I chased off my lawn with a water hose.
YOUR words:
“I won, remember? I defeated Judge Kelly.”
Uh huh. Then why the festering grudge and need to pee on his grave? Do you need to win again?
Paulie, the liar, is at it again. Anyone else care to pull up his numerous posts that were complete b.s.?
Paulie, go to bed, and remember that your posts on the actions of this judge are considered on their face to be completely false.
Making accusations that Judge Kelly was drinking on the job, when you have no proof of this outrageous claim. Shame on you. You, who call yourself a Christian.
You lying bastard…
StevenJudge Kelly ACTED drunk. He called many people by the wrong name. He entered false information on his “judgements” that were not supported by the evidence. He SMELLED like alcohol. The hall outside his chambers smelled like alcohol, right after he walked in the door. He did crazy, irrational things.
I told the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals that Kelly was drunk during my hearing.The 10th Circuit Court NEVER reprimanded me for that claim. Neither did Judge Kelly, who had a copy of that motion.Neither did the next District Court Judge, who took over the case when Kelly was reversed and REMOVED for misconduct!
I put all of this in writing, several years ago, in my legal motions.Nobody, not Tiller’s attorney, not Judge Kelly, not the 10th Circuit, NOBODY ever refuted my claim.
And, my request for a new hearing was granted.
And, I didnt even have to appear at my new hearing, I was obviously that innocent.
A sober man would have noticed that fact.
I rest my case.
JRAs you might recall, YOU said I was charged with “child endangerment” did you not?
Who made that charge?
Only YOU JR. Judge Kelly only found me in Civil Contempt of Court, which was later overturned.
Do you have any idea how many people have won in an appeal of Civil Contempt?
I tried to find out once.
The total number can be counted on one hand, I think.
I am one of those people.
What Kelly did was so wrong, the 10th Circuit overturned a Civil Contempt finding that had no penalty attached to it at all, simply as a way to make clear, to Kelly and to other Fedral Judges, that Kelly’s behavior could not be tolerated.
Wheedle and plead Paulecon.
You’re done here. You’re overdone here and your demise is long overdue.
You are of course, free to rant away for the amusement of our readers.
Actually, many many people found guilty of Civil Contempt in Kellys Court, who went on to appeal that finding, won in Court.
I am the ONLY person I know of, who has ever appealed a FALSE “purge” and won.
I did not purge.
Kelly knew he messed up and wanted to get rid of my case. He never thought I would appeal if he released me.
The Court transcripts make clear that I never admitted any guilt whatsover.
The 10th Circuit Court of Appeals agreed with me.
JR
You lost this one.
You lost big.
The facts, the evidence, the Court Transcripts, The Supreme Court of the United States, the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals, they are all on my side JR.
It is illegal to use the KKK Act against political protesters.
What Kelly did was illegal from the start.
The way he did it was also illegal.
Judge Patrick Kelly broke the law and you will be very hard pressed to find a legal scholar that disagrees with me on that point.—If I died, tomorrow, I am sure the Eagle would bring up Kelly and Tillers “case” against me.
I am also sure that they would mistate the facts.
I bumped into Judge Kelly after a funeral for a mutual friend, at Blessed Sacrament Church.
I shook his hand and said hello.
He smiled and shook his head at me.
We were adversaries, but we both enjoyed the fight.
JR
You lost this one.
You lost big.
I did? How so? Because Judge Kelly who you hate has died?
You’re ill Paulecon to make everything you post about me and you or about you and anyone that has ever dared oppose you.
I came to this thread to note the passing of a man of Justice. YOU came to attack a dead man and sully his reputation. You came to settle scores you have not settled with yourself against a man who can no longer hit back.
If you want to hit ME in his stead Paulecon, you may feel free. I am very much alive and well versed in dealing with you.
JRDont flatter yourself.
Kelly was wrong on the law, wrong on Judicial Proceedure, wrong in his personal conduct, wrong to go on National TV to discuss cases before him.
However, you can’t hold a candel to the man.
Though Patrick Kelly was very committed to “abortion rights” and grossly abused the law to further his political views, he was a better man than you.
He held no grudge against me, even though I had much to do with the outcome of ALL the Operation Rescue, Summer of Mercy, KKK Act cases, heard in his court.
EVERY case that Kelly heard, in those matters, was reversed.
This Blog has bashed Reagan and Falwell and countless other Republicans and Conservatives, at their death. You have not led by example, JR, if it is your position that we can not “speak ill of the dead” on this Blog.
Judge Kelly INJECTED himself into political debate.
The Eagle, and Rhonda, in opening this thread, claimed that Kelly was “upholding the law”.
Nothing could be further from the truth.
Kelly NEVER ruled that any government was encouraging the protests, much less directing the protests.
The law REQUIRED Kelly to make such a finding. Kelly ignored the law. Kelly VIOLATED the law.
The law REQUIRED Kelly to show “class based animus” or hatred, among the protesters.
Kelly made no such finding. Kelly ignored the law. Kelly VIOLATED the law.—-The Wichita Eagle is attempting to use the death of Judge Patrick Kelly to push a political viewpoint.
They are also pushing a FALSE history.
Kelly was NOT defending Roe V. Wade in any legal sense.
Roe simply says that the GOVERNMENT can’t restrict abortion “rights”.
Operation Rescue is NOT the government. The entire Civil case was a joke from the start!
Kelly was abusing the Ku Klux Klan Act, and his office, to push HIS personal views.
Gee, a legal opinion from an insurance salesman.
I think we have some blog posters off their meds today.
As a frequent reader and poster of blogs I have noticed that I was/am subconciously (now consciously) skipping the comments submitted by authors who are still seeking attention from their moms and approval from their dads.
Whew!
Friends University has a great therapy clinic which provides therapy/services on a sliding scale fee. Get some help for the sake of your family.
Funny how bloggers always resort to insinuations and insults when they can’t come up with any valid argument or opinion. Many absolutely can’t handle listening to anyone who isn’t validating their own views. Maybe they’re the ones who should be in therapy.
For the record, I do hope that Judge Kelly dealt with his demons, and his Maker, prior to his passing.
I truly believe that the man enjoyed the publicity and the noteriety.
I also truly believe that he regretted many of his decisions.
I think he was misguided, but he almost saw himself as a general in a war who regretted the “collateral damage” and the harm this issue has brought.
Never the less, he chose sides and was loyal to his camp.
JedAnd what makes YOU an expert?
I represented MYSELF in the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals and I won.
The fact that I am not an attorney only diminishes the legal weight of Judge Patrick Kelly and of millionaire Abortionist George Tiller’s legal team.
They were defeated by an “insurance salesman”.
What does that say about THEM?
Can’t let it go can ya Paulie?
JRI deserve a few “victory laps” — and my guess is:
Patrick Kelly, a fellow Irishman, is taking this better than you!
Victory laps?
I think I’ll just let that one stand on its own….merits?
Rhonda”Judge Kelly Carried Out Duty” you say.Actually, Judge Kelly should have dismissed Abortionist George Tiller’s lawsuit.Other Federal Judges had already found that the KKK Act could NOT be used without proving that the government was involved in class-based hatred.Kelly had a “duty” to tell the proabortion camp that they were using the wrong law.He did not.Therefore, the Supreme Court and the 10th Circuit both did Kelly’s job for him.
JRDid the US Supreme Court rule that the KKK Act could not be used against prolife protesters?
Did the 10th Circuit rule in my favor?
Was I granted a new hearing, as I requested?
Was I granted a new judge, as I requested?
Was my Civil (not criminal) case dismissed, as I requested, in that new hearing?
Did anyone ever refute any portion of any of my motions on appeal, made in writing, to the Federal Courts? (Hint, the answer to this one is different from the previous answers.)
I have said nothing here, in the Blog, about this case, that I did not tell the Appeals Court.
They appreciated my information, it appears.
They granted all of my motions.
JR the recorded history of this event shows econ to be accurate in his telling of this episode. Let it go and move on. Your personal animus is showing and it isn’t pretty.
What a sad excuse for a man you must be Paulecon. Standing on laurels of long ago and little use.
“You are a sad strange little man. And you have my pity.”
J R has my pity for continuing to make himself look like a fool on a daily basis.
Don’t blame ME ksgrm.
Paul keeps skywriting my nic over his little world.
But then you yourself are good at bagging on people and then expecting them not to hit back aren’t you ksgrm?
I came here to praise a GOOD man. I am happy I have helped hand a shovel to a few lesser. May they dig in whatever brings them peace.
JR when I am in a spirited debate with someone I will answer back with emotion. I don’t attack you personally do I? Chas I get a little more personal because of what and who he professes to be. When I am attacked on my opinions then I am open game. If I post all day and say nothing and attack, attack, attack all day then I should be censored.
Obviously you and Econ are in different camps. He doesn’t respect the legal rulings of Judge Kelly and you do. He said as a person he could respect Kelly. You are both entitled to your opinions. Just because you post an opinion doesn’t mean that everyone else has to agree with you.
MOve on.
Econ -
RE: JR’s 10:12 post.
I think that qualifies as sulking away, tail between the legs, for JR.
Let it go, JR. You lost this round. Badly.
Well gosh I keep TRYING to leave this thread.
Now GMC wants to join the fun AFTER I tried to leave Paulecon to his “victory laps” on a dead mans grave.
Respectability points deducted there GMC. And the added charge of flip flopping your original position.
Moving on?
Truth is J R could get “two spits” in a stiff wind about the Judge’s death.
He’s just using the thread for his own ego boosting and artificially raising his false deity praise of the Liberal portion of the Democratic party.
There is nothing noble what J R is doing here in this thread. It is for selfish political gain and make constant attacks on Econ101.
It’s a shameful exhibition of narcissistic self serving chauvinism.
At the beginning of the thread GMC said the Judge followed the the law and did his job. Econ beilives the Judge broke the law was incompetent and was a scumbag which rightwinger is right?
opinions and personal experiences vary Rev Jim (Capn, J R, some lib using yet another nic)
Econ was the guy who threw six year olds under the wheels of moving cars at Tiller’s Clinic, for which he faced a “child endangerment” charge.
However, he was CLEARED! So stop saying that!
For all of those multiple niccers. How can we ever have an intelligent conversation when the participants are changing identies by the minute. Thanksgiving preps are calling. Have a good one!
I give thanks that I live in a free country where I can get in my car and drive to the supermarket and shop without fear for my personal safety.
I give thanks to the men and women who gave their lives to purchase that freedom for me.
No flipping, JR. Judges have a duty to carry out the law. I said as much.
Judge Kelly apparantly thought he was doing that. I’m not particularly a student of the history of that episode, but as Econ recites the matter, it appears that Judge Kelly’s actions were overturned on appeal. That’s fairly easily checked, though I don’t have the time or inclination to do so. Assuming Econ’s statements are true (and you don’t deny same), I don’t know that makes the judge a “tyrant” on the bench, as Econ labels him, but he made some errors, and perhaps let the case get personal. It happens.
But that episode’s long since over. I offer nothing but Peace to him and his family at this time. As did Econ. Econ is still entitled to his view of the man, however. It appears he has reason for his perspective. Like the judge, he may well take the episode personally.
You, however, made a charge - and a significant one, that a crime was charged - without any apparant basis. You’ve not retracted nor apologized for same, but neither have you offered any evidence in support in the face of Econ’s clear statements, and easily verified and specific recitation of facts, in refutation.
That being the case, it’s easy to decide, on this round, where you came out.
Game, set, match, Econ.
Ksgrm writes, “I give thanks that I live in a free country where I can get in my car and drive to the supermarket and shop without fear for my personal safety.”
Yeah.
Thank God we don’t live in some lawless place like Canada or Switzerland. Those Swiss can’t buy a cheese wheel without dodging bullets these days.
Game, set, match, Econ.
Posted by: GMC70 | November 21, 2007 at 10:57 AM
Well bully for Paulecon! He can add a victory lap.
Flip,flop GMC. Nice half twist on the dismount!
CapnYou, too, should be made aware of the law concering slander and Libel.I am a “public figure” — I admit as much.Therefore, in court, I would have to prove “malice” if I were to sue anyone for slander or libel.That means that I would have to prove that you knew the truth, prior to your false statement, but that you made your false statement about me, anyway.
If I took the time and money to sue everyone who has slandered and libeled me, in this matter, I would never be out of court.
However, in your case, and the case of many other Bloggers, I would surely win!—–For your information:
I was never charged with ANY crime concerning children, ever in my life.
I was never charged with ANY crime concerning anti-abortion ptotests, ever in my life.
My case was, entirely, a CIVIL matter.
In fact, part of my defense was rather simple: If you wish to treat me like a criminal, then I should have full criminal law protections! (I was not allowed to present witnesses, as the kids involved were threatened with SRS custody, and the one who had turned 18 was not allowed to contact me and offer her story in my defense. I was never placed under arrest. I was never informed of the specific charges against me until my Kangaroo Court hearing several days later. I was never read my rights.)
This is why Tiller’s attorney argued, in the 10th Circuit, that no crime had been charged against me. Tiller’s attorney was trying to avoid the “due process” problem. Tiller made clear that I faced no “jeapordy” at all, due to Judge Kelly’s personal opinion, which carried no criminal weight at all. This is what TILLER said in his motion to dismiss my appeal!—–It is entirely possible to be found guilty of violating a Court Order, and be held in contempt, even if that Order is later overturned by another, higher Court.
We are required, as citizens, to obey Court Orders and not “take the law into our own hands”.
Therefore, the 10th Circuit decision to vacate ALL of Judge Kelly’s findings and rulings, for those cases on appeal, and return them to the District Court, under a NEW judge, speaks volumes about the decisions that Kelly made.—–
“An order can not issue forth and bind the whole world, those subject to its provisions must be named.”
I was NOT named in Kelly’s illegal order.
I was NOT subject to Kelly’s illegal order in any way shape or form.
Kelly found me in Civil Contempt of Court.
Federal Courts have NO jurisdiction over criminal child endangerment.
The Children involved could not be subject to Kelly’s order, they were not adults at the time.
I was never shown to have “conspired” with anyone subject to Kellly’s illegal order.
I did have witnesses who said that I was yelling at the kids to get out from under the car.
I NEVER touched a single child, ever, in any prolife protest and no evidence has ever been presented otherwise.
I never admitted any “guilt” at all, and the transcripts clearly show that I did not “confess”. However, Kelly abused his office and falsely entered a “purge” finding.—-CapnYou are guitly of libel and slander.
I believe it is time for you to mitigate damages through an apology.
However, I doubt that I will sue. You petty, cheap, hateful partisan hacks arent worth my time, and you probably don’t have much money for me to take away from you, anyway.
Let’s see, what is that Rush always says when he’s caught in a despicable lie?
. . . .
Ah . . . I remember now: it was a JOKE!
Yeah . . . that’s it . . . I was only kidding!
Haha.
And then usually you wingers through in some gratuitous needling about how “you need to grow a sense of humor” or some such.
So, yeah, I’m sorry, Econ.
I’m sorry you can’t recognize satirical humor when you see it.
Isn’t it funny when it happens to you too?
Econ: “I was cleared of all charges. So, STOP SAYING THAT!”
I love it . . .
Why thank you, JR.
It’s just a reminder that some of us are capable of a more nuanced stance than “your side or mine.” It is you, of course, who routinely refers to those who dare to disagree with you as those on the other “side.”
That you term that a “flip, flop” with a “half-twist” serves only to further highlight the shallow display you’ve offered here. And, not coincidentally, you’ve still offered nothing in support of your charge.
Remember the line you used yourself about the first step when you find yourself in a hole? Step away from the shovel, JR.
Capn
Apology accepted.
LOL
— time to run anoter lap!
Terrorists certainly do get angry after being thrown in jail aren’t they?
DougToo bad Kelly and Tiller didnt waterboard me at GITMO.
Perhaps, then, some of you hypocrites on the Left would see your contradictions for what they are.
Civil rights belong to all citizens, not just the citizens that you happen to agree with, at the moment.
Paul, I’m sure if you want to be waterboarded some of your fascist friends would be more than happy to comply. Contrary to what you think Paul, you and your terrorist friends have to right to stalk people, give out death threats, assault people, bomb buildings and shoot people.
I for one appreciate Judge Kelly’s actions on behalf of all patients and their familiy who trying to access a medical clinic. OR’s behavior was despicable. I was there and it was total chaos. Judge Kelly was a hero in my opinion.
Doug and WichiWomn BOTH think it is ok for a Judge to break the law, as long as that Judge is going after people they don’t like.
Great legal argument, both of you!
Doug,
Ben, who often posts here, is a “green” kind of guy. I disagree with him frequently.However, I do not hold Ben responsible for tree-spiking or for Unibomber type green terrorism.
Kindly do not hold me responsible for the actions of a few.
Judge Patrick Kelly falsely imprisoned me for 68 days. I have posted my own eulogy of him on my blog: bjbrownsblog.blogspot.com
I have been telling the story of my false imprisonment at his hands on my blog. Suffice it to say that had I been a journalist or left wing activist Kelly would be jeered by the establishment. I am of the VRWC, and so any lies of the Left, false reports by the media or injustices by the courts are just and meet, since they advance the Left’s agenda.