Granted, you don’t have to be in the office to be working. But a Kansas City television station’s report that Johnson County District Attorney Phill Kline averages only 29 hours per week at the office — based on a review of Kline’s parking key data — supports complaints that he isn’t doing much to earn his $143,000-a-year salary.
The station also questioned whether Kline really lives in Johnson County, as required by law. During a several-week period, the TV station watched the apartment that Kline claims is his residence and never saw him arriving or leaving. But it did see him at his home in Topeka.
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I asked the same thing about Hillary when she ran for the senate.
Phill Kline tried to turn the AG’s office into his own private anti-abortion law firm. Now he’s trying the same thing with the JoCo DA’s office.
Rumor has it that he’s resigning in January to take a job at Liberty University - Falwell’s organization. Let’s hope those rumors are true. It’ll be good riddance, and long past due.
One note: He lost his own home county 65% to 35% in the AG’s race. The people who know him best know they don’t want him.
Phillllllllllll Kline is the Fundo gift that keeps on giving. If I were in the Kansas GOP, I’d be trying to get him the hell outta Kansas as quickly as possible.
Another example of the ends justify the means. Just like Hillary.
New Yorker,
If my memory serves me correctly, Hillary Clinton has won two primaries and two general elections to be the junior Senator from New York.
Phill Kline, on the other hand, is a loser who has managed to manipulate the system.
Phill Kline, on the other hand, is a loser who has managed to manipulate the system.
Posted by: Tom
Exactly like Hillary!
NY,
How does losing reelection by a landslide equal winning reelection by a landslide?
Is this how Republicans do math now?
Kline is just another lying cheating Republican?
Color me surprised!
I can’t wait to see the panty sniffing scumbag removed from office.
So, if you think Kline should have an extra 11 hours per week, to equal 40, did anyone track his time in the Law Library? Did anyone track his time, online, researching cases? Did anyone track his time at government meetings, away from the Court House?
Kline isnt perfect, but I would suggest that you Kline bashers are getting petty.
Nola Foulston, our DA down here, probably would have several weeks, during the year, where here car was not in the parking lot for 40 hours.
I would go even further: You will have a very, very hard time finding a DA, anywhere, who works fewer hours than the average County Commissioner.
How many hours does Kathleen Sebelius spend on STATE (not political party) business every week?Is anyone following her around?
You will have a very, very hard time finding a DA, anywhere, who works fewer hours than the average County Commissioner.Posted by: Econ101 | November 27, 2007 at 01:55 PM
Except in JoCo. :)
How many hours does Kathleen Sebelius spend on STATE (not political party) business every week?Is anyone following her around?
Econ,
You’re certainly free to investigate how the Governor uses her time. No one is stopping you.
FYI, I personally know there’s at least one Statehouse reporter that wouldn’t mind getting those kinds of “never at work” goods on Sebelius. Maybe, just maybe, there’s no story here?
Shorter Econ:
“Democrats might be doing it too!”
Besides, it’s the lying about his residence that’s going to bring him down.
Bloggus,
Econ makes a hobby out of defending the indefensible. Not only is a bigtime Kline cheerleader, he’s also Bonnie Huy’s Number One Fan. In the past, he’s come up with several excuses as to why she was the ONLY legislator to vote in favor of permitting 12-year olds to marry.
Kline might have spent more time at the office if he wouldn’t have had to commute from his house in Topeka every day…
Yeah, it’s quite a drive. At least an hour, depending on traffic.
Tom,
Econ will support his team even when he knows they’re wrong. It’s what I think of as a “Sports” mentality.
TomThe Kansas Senate agreed with Bonnie Huy.Huy voted for the Senate version of the Bill you bring up.The version of the Bill that Huy supported actually became law.
“Time in the office”
This is a very “smoke stack” pre-cell phone, pre-internet way of looking at the world.
Even before modern communications, elected officials were seen as professionals, being compensated for knowledge and decisions and not for hourly wages.
Also, residence is a very hard thing to prove, or disprove.
Where is he registered to vote? Where does he receive his mail?What is the percentage of time, since his appointment, that he has spent at that residence?
How much time does he spend on the phone, to government officials or to constituents, on the weekend or after hours?
The owners of the storage unit where Kline claims to live lie for him, saying he does spends the night there, despite all evidence to the contrary. One of them even calls him “One of the greatest heros we know.”
I wonder if she’ll be willing to testify to that under oath.
“Also, residence is a very hard thing to prove, or disprove.”
No, it’s not.
The version of the Bill that Huy supported actually became law.Posted by: Econ101 | November 27, 2007 at 02:15 PM
So she voted for it before she voted against it? Or was that the other way around?
No matter. When she voted on the House bill, she was the only one in the Chamber to vote for allowing 12-year olds to marry. What you’re doing here is just spin, spin, spin.
Nice try, though.
And here’s Bonnie Huy’s comments on the floor of the House, explaining her sole vote in favor of letting 12-year olds marry:
“MR. SPEAKER: I’m somewhat conflicted by HB 2541. Although I do not embrace underage marriages, my youngest sister was married at 15 to a 23 year old with my mother’s unenthusiastic consent. They have raised five children and she and her husband just celebrated their 50th wedding anniversary. Loretta Lynn was married at 13 with her parent’s consent to a much older man and remained married to him until his death. Many of these marriages do work out. Again government is interfering with the rights of parents to raise their children. After much thought and consideration, I vote no.”
TomFor insurance and other purposes, Huy thought that the State should allow parental permission to marry at older ages, which was not allowed for in the House version.The Senate listened to Huy.The Senate modified the Bill.Huy supported the Senate version, which allowed for parental permission at older ages.Huy improved the Bill.Huy voted against a measure which never became law.Huy voted for a measure which did become law.
By the way, every Democrat, since our founding, thought the law, prior to Huy’s career-ending vote, was OK.
Silence is consent, is it not?
Nobody, in our entire state history, ever thought this was even a problem until one case came up, where a guy abused the law.
Huy did not craft the law prior to this vote.
Huy did vote to change the law.
Sometimes, I wish she had been a cheap opportunist and had not worried about her convictions.
However, if Huy had not shown courage, and been a loan disenter in the HOUSE, Kansas law would probably not reflect her concerns.
Huy showed courage.
Huy changed the law.
Huy voted for the current law.
Good Points Econ.
Too bad they fall on deaf ears.
The real study should be the case work he is clearing not how many hours he spends in the office.
Are you willing to bash all of the members of the Kansas Senate for agreeing with Huy?
Huy only voted for the Senate bill ONLY AFTER she got a crapstorm of grief from the media and directly from her constituents. No one, except those of us who know her, thought she could possibly be that dense.
Read her comments on the House floor, Econ. Those aren’t the words of someone quibbling over semantics between House and Senate versions of a bill. You know it, I know it, Bonnie knows it, and anyone with 1/10th of a brain knows it.
Kline lied about where he lives.
It’s that simple, and sufficient cause for him to be removed from office, according to Kansas law.
Is it required that Kline have a residence in Johnson County or “live” in Johnson County?
If the former, then much ado about nothing.
I would hope the District Attorney spent little time in his office, but out and about investigating, in the courtroom and/or at the County Clerk’s office.
Is Kline paid by the hour or is he paid a salary? :)
It appears that once again, a local TV station has a Political agenda rather than a ‘real news’ agenda.
Let’s go spy on KCTV Channel 5 news in KC and see what we can find. I think the FCC Licensing board might find some things interesting. :)
NathanSharks in attack mode.
The blood in the water, that they smell, will soon be one of their own.
I will stick up for Democrats, when petty partisan attacks come up.
My opponents, on this Blog, rarely do the same —
But, I gotta be me, I dont do what I do for my ego, or for theirs.
Are you willing to bash all of the members of the Kansas Senate for agreeing with Huy?Posted by: Econ101 | November 27, 2007 at 02:34 PM
Find me a single Kansas Senator who voted to allow 12 and 13 year olds to marry, consistent with Huy’s statement on the House floor.
I’ll wait.
TomShow me a member of the Kansas Senate who made a motion to amend the Senate version of the Bill in question to MATCH the House version.No such motion was made.Therefore, the entire Senate agreed with HUY!
Let’s go spy on KCTV Channel 5 news in KC and see what we can find. I think the FCC Licensing board might find some things interesting. :)Posted by: Kansas | November 27, 2007 at 02:35 PM
Are you serious? Let me know. Because if you are - I have an opinion.
Is it required that Kline have a residence in Johnson County or “live” in Johnson County?
He is required to live there, not just to own or rent propery.
Did you watch the video to see the crappy little apartment he rents at the storage unit? If he “lives” there, wouldn’t his wife and children live there too, being the good, upstanding God-fearing Christian he claims to be? I doubt they’ve ever seen the place.
Econ, LMFGAO!!!!
That’s the most hilarious justification I’ve EVER seen for a legislator’s voting record.
Spin away, man, spin away. But be careful - you’re clearly making yourself dizzy and incoherent.
Reporters are such morons. Imagine your assignment being watching the comings and goings of the DA. Find some dirt.
And they think they have something when he doesn’t spend the prescribed 40 hours in the office! As Econ101 so clearly stated, that kind of thinking is hilariously outdated.
You don’t suppose that this story had any political motivation behind it, do you?
Punch that time clock, Phill!
Kansas Law:
http://www.kslegislature.org/legsrv-statutes/getStatuteFile.do?number=25-108.html
“25-108Chapter 25.–ELECTIONS
Article 1.–GENERAL PROVISIONS
25-108. Residence of public officers and employees. That for the purpose of voting, no person who is in the employment of this state or any municipal subdivision thereof in any civil capacity shall be deemed to have gained or lost a residence by reason of such employment, but all such officers or employees shall be considered as residents of the place from whence they were elected or appointed.
History: L. 1903, ch. 232, § 1; June 1; R.S. 1923, 25-108.
“Many of these marriages do work out.” -Bonnie Huy
This shows a gross misunderstanding of the divorce rate. Two anecdotal incidents do not equal “many.” Half of marriages that are initiated at 18 years old or younger end in divorce. If this weak understanding is any indication of her general capacity for taking in and understanding information, then I am thrilled she lost her seat.
Did you watch the video to see the crappy little apartment he rents at the storage unit? Bloggus
I don’t care if it’s the Taj Mahal or a white trailer. If he “lives” there he qualifies.
If he does not “live” there, then he is a fraud and hypocrite. I would then agree that his stance on one bible verse and failure to follow another bible verse has merit.
Kline is overboard on abortion, he was one of the first republicans I voted against.
The republicans who put a LOSER in a WINNER’s seat did the party a great disservice. All I can figure out is their support for banning abortions came BEFORE their republican views. The two are NOT the same, which is why I am now an independent and the party is in shambles!
Someone who moves can actually decide where to vote, as long as they dont vote in two places, in the same election:
“25-3702Chapter 25.–ELECTIONS
Article 37.–VOTING IN PRECINCT OF FORMER RESIDENCE
25-3702. Affidavit to obtain ballot to vote at precinct of former residence; notice to reregister, voter registration materials. Any such former precinct resident offering to vote in the precinct of such person’s former residence, before receiving a ballot shall make an affidavit in writing on a form to be prescribed by the secretary of state, sworn or affirmed before one of the election judges, stating the address or location of former residence, the date of removal therefrom, the address or location of such person’s new residence, and that such person has not voted at such election. Such affidavit shall be delivered to the election judges and transmitted to the county election officer with the election returns and supplies. Upon receipt of an affidavit of a former precinct resident, the county election officer shall send to the current address specified on the affidavit, by forwardable first-class mail, a notice that it is necessary to reregister to vote. The notice also shall include voter registration materials if the voter is still a resident of the county of the original registration. The notice authorized by this section shall be on a form prescribed by the secretary of state.
History: L. 1972, ch. 143, § 2; L. 1988, ch. 120, § 3; April 14.
http://www.kslegislature.org/legsrv-statutes/getStatuteFile.do?number=25-3702.html
My point is only that residence is hard to prove.
Court rulings have said that your “residence” is the “place that you to return to, after having been away” or words to that effect.
“Kansas Law:”
Econ, that has absolutely nothing to do with this at all. It’s not about him voting in the right place, it’s about him lying about his place of residence.
But you already knew that.
So Kline is separated from his wife? There’ve been rumors that Deborah Kline is not nearly so rabidly anti-choice as her husband. Perhaps the fact that she lives in Topeka and he in Stillwell has more to it than we know.
This might explain Meadowlark’s rant about how KCTV was “stalking” a young female teacher who lives in the “same building” as Kline allegedly does. http://www.efg2.com/Meadowlark/2007/11-26/index.htm Has old Phill found fresher pastures to plow?
Once again Meadowlark was right about the stalking.http://www.efg2.com/Meadowlark/2007/11-26/index.htm
Please read the all of the topic, not just the school teacher stalking that the lecherous Tom points out.
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“Has old Phill found fresher pastures to plow?”
Posted by: Tom | November 27, 2007 at 03:02 PM
Got any proof to back up that Tom or are you just being the lecherous old partisan everyone knows you to be?
From the article by Meadowlark:
“Kline speculated KCTV might be challenging his residence as Johnson County District Attorney, even though Kline had lived in the Johnson County area for most of his life, and served as a Johnson County State Rep for District 18 in Shawnee from 1993 till 2000. Kline only moved from Johnson County to Topeka after being elected Attorney General in 2002. He rented an apartment in Johnson County just prior to winning the election to District Attorney by Republican precinct committees in Dec. 2006. “http://www.efg2.com/Meadowlark/2007/11-26/index.htm
What’s lecherous about plowing pastures? This is Kansas. It’s what people do here.
:)
Actually, to those who think my posts about “residence” — lifted directly from Kansas Statutes, found on the Secretary of State’s website, are pretty much controlling on this issue.
We just dont have much, in the way of statutes, when it comes to residence issues.
We dont have much, when it comes to court cases, either.
Generally, you are seen as LIVING or RESIDING where you vote.
Therefore, RESIDENCE FOR VOTING PURPOSES matters.
Therefore, Kline is probably fine, legally speacking.
Econ,
They don’t care about the technicality or legality of where Kline lives.
This is simply a sound bite of negativity they can use against him.
Years from now we will still be hearing about how Kline was a liar about where he lived…
Can’t we all just get along…and throw Kline out the window?
You’re right Nathan, it’s what Libs are all about.
Create a lie
Spin that lie
Live that lie
Re-spin the lie again.
A party of liars.
If Kline “lived” in Johnson county his wife and children would live there too. He and his wife own a large home in Topeka, and his children are enrolled in Topeka schools.
Kline rented a crap $400 a month apartment above a storage facility to try to get around the law that requires him to reside in Johnson county.
It’s that simple.
Bloggus,
I still say he’s missing so much time in the office because he has all that fresh pastureland out in Stillwell that needs plowing.
It’s tough to farm and prosecute criminals at the same time.
I LOVE that the photo is in black and white!
Very realistic take on the colorless clown kline.
And what does he look so smug about? Losing in a landslide?
http://blogs.kansascity.com/tvbarn/2007/05/live_latebreaki.html
Tom, I must say - your accusations are disgusting.
It’s like when you first popped up on the WE Blog and try to put the moves on me.
No one values the opinion of a lecherous, disgusting old man who thinks everyone who has a differing opinion needs to be attack with false accusation.
Isn’t false statements what you accused econ101 in another thread?
Hypocrite?
After reading Kline’s wiki profile and checking out his smug mug, I wonder why anyone would elect this guy. Do all of your politicians abuse power, rather than protect the interests of the people in Kansas? Who’s protecting the interests of the people in Kansas who aren’t conservative? Anyone? And are there any people who live in Kansas that aren’t blindingly white? Wow. I now know where the 1950s went. Kansas! Whooooo! Go segregation! Go creationism! Boooooo for science! Keep electing guys like this and that is exactly how the rest of the country will continue to see you guys.
Put the WHAT on you??? LMMFFGAO!
That’s rich. You accuse me of being disgusting, of being a hypocrite, yet you post this:
(fyi, the ***’ed words are redacted by me. Trollboy typed’em all out, for which his post was originally delelted)=========================
KMA Tom, I apologized for it as it was a joke. I’ve had it up to here with you and kfg double standard on the blog.
I did not threaten to break in your office, I jokingly said WE (as in all of us) should rifle Tom’s office while’s he’s gone.
Only an uptight p***k like yourself wouldn’t have understood it wasn’t a joke.
You put your email on the blog. You put your address on the blog. You put your real name on the blog. The only person you have to blame is yourself, for being so dumb, you can’t pull your underwear out of your own ***.
so Tom,
KISS MY ***
You’ve shown the world what a true *** hole you are and you deserve nothing.
Posted by: Kansas | October 29, 2007 at 10:35 AM
Poor, arm flailing Tom, now he’s gone nuts and going to have a melt down.
Wait…too late…
(fyi, the ***’ed words are redacted by me. Trollboy typed’em all out, for which his post was originally delelted)
lies, I put the asterisks in there myself.
You can’t even lie without tripping over yourself can you Tom?
Um…that was your meltdown. And me laughing.
Truth hurts doesn’t it Tom.
You still post your real name and email on the blog and have been know to post your email here, as well as where your office is located.
You are your own worst enemy.
Wow, Kansas is a creepy wanabee stalker type.
Talking about breaking into someone’s office and going through their stuff isn’t a joke, it’s a threat, IMO.
Trollboy,
I have the original post - the entire original thread, as it existed before the WEBlog editors deleted it. I’m sure others here remember it well, as it was the beginning of one of your major meltdowns, that ended with you having multiple posts deleted and a temporary ban, I believe.
I think it’s time for the eds to look at banning kansas again.
I never had a meltdown and I’m still here.
You don’t know me very well do you?
But keep those arm flailing Tom, it’s all you got.
When you can’t post intelligently to the Blog, you attack other people.
It’s what you do and who you are.
A bitter, old narcissist, attacked based, agenda driven prune.
Go ahead and post the old stuff Tom. You’ll be the one banned for posting deleted posts. :)
How is reposting your kind words to me an “attack” on you? Help me understand…
“You put your email on the blog. You put your address on the blog. You put your real name on the blog. The only person you have to blame is yourself, for being so dumb, you can’t pull your underwear out of your own ***.”
This reminds of a man I once knew (who is now in prison) who would steal stuff from people’s garage, justifying it by saying, “If they didn’t want their stuff stolen they would have locked their garage.”
Sorry Tom, rationalization is your strong suit, not mine. Go figure it out.
Trollboy,
So you’re going to complain to the Editors that your posts have been reposted?
Between you and Econ, I’ve been laughing my rear off all day.
Between you and Econ, I’ve been laughing my rear off all day.
Posted by: Tom | November 27, 2007 at 03:51 PM
I wouldn’t think laughter would be the cause of that.
The KC press has been onto this story for months - interesting that the Eagle is just now bringing it up. Reporters have been tailing Kline and spoke with his landlord’s father who wasn’t supposed to have have spilled the beans and said what many of us suspected - that he doesn’t really live in Johnson County. It is a small apartment built onto a business and owned by a lady who is the Kansas Executive Director of a Right to Life organization.
Sounds like Phill is breaking the law. Too bad none of the Johnson County Commissiones have enough chutzpah to do anything about it. Cowards.
What a joke. Maybe Phill could move a little further east than Johnson County - like across the border to Missouri. And maybe he could take his buddy and fellow Shawnee County pastor Fred Phelps.
let us all be thankful that Phil Kline ‘may’ leave Kansas soon. I hope the centrists of this state look around and make sure another pig like kline doesn’t slip through the cracks and get into high state office again. It is scary, the righteousness.
TomGood!That means you arent getting any smarter.Would hate if if you liberals actually learned anything.
Oh my, look what’s happened in here.
“(fyi, the ***’ed words are redacted by me. Trollboy typed’em all out, for which his post was originally delelted)
lies, I put the asterisks in there myself.
You can’t even lie without tripping over yourself can you Tom?”
Posted by: Kansas | November 27, 2007 at 03:43 PM
Kansas, not to nitpick, but I just looked at the screen capture in question, not an asterisk to be found. You were pretty graphic. No wonder it was deleted.
“A bitter, old narcissist, attacked based, agenda driven prune.”
Posted by: Kansas | November 27, 2007 at 03:48 PM
It’s not nice to call names. Tom may be a lot of things, but I don’t think anything you’ve said applies. Maybe turn out the lights and put your head on your desk for a while?
Econ, you are most correct about voting residence being the crux of the matter in this discussion under the applicable statutes (not many, to be sure). Thus, if Mr. Kline is lawfully registered to vote in Johnson County, with the address of the apartment being the voting registration address, that’s all that is legally required.
If the Kansas City television station wants to draw additional viewers and thus higher ratings, with increased ad revenues resulting therefrom, by its investigation, so be it. No one can stop it. Mr. Kline may be embarrassed thereby, but as he’s not running again for JoCo DA, I’m sure there will be little to no fallout from this.
LonniePhil Kline is not, in any way shape or form, a “buddy” of Fred Phelps.The ACLU often defends Fred Phelps, that is a liberal organization.Kline refused a contribution from Phelps.
Maybe turn out the lights and put your head on your desk for a while?Posted by: Lynz | November 27, 2007 at 03:58 PM
That bulb is already pretty dim.
It’s not nice to call names. Tom may be a lot of things, but I don’t think anything you’ve said applies. Maybe turn out the lights and put your head on your desk for a while?
Posted by: Lynz | November 27, 2007 at 03:58 PM
Okay, I take back the ‘prune’ part.
Thus, if Mr. Kline is lawfully registered to vote in Johnson County, with the address of the apartment being the voting registration address, that’s all that is legally required.
Wrong.
He is required to actually reside in Johnson county in order to hold office.
He lied about his place of residence.
Bloggus,
What is the LEGAL definition of residence?
That is what this entire conversation was about. Have you even been paying attention at all?
Yet again, Kline didn’t lie about his place of residence.
Mr. Kline may be embarrassed thereby, but as he’s not running again for JoCo DA, I’m sure there will be little to no fallout from this.Posted by: Vaughn Tolle | November 27, 2007 at 03:58 PM
Vaughn,
That’s the saddest thing, from my point of view, about Phill Kline’s career. Not once has he had to pay the price for his outrageous behavior. In fact, when he maneuvered his way into the DA’s job, he got a 30% pay RAISE over what he was making as AG.
I guess that money comes in handy for gas money for his 120-mile daily round-trips between his home in Topeka and his office in Olathe. Although, since he only makes the trip a few days a week, he’s probably got some pocket change left over.
Okay, I take back the ‘prune’ part.
Posted by: Kansas | November 27, 2007 at 04:03 PM
Better than nothing I guess. Look, I get it. You don’t like Tom. The bigger issue being that you disagree with Tom and seem to have an emotional response when you disagree with him on the blog.
Can I suggest that everyone just take a deep breath and discuss a topic on its merits without a name-calling flame-fest?
I’m done Lynz and am drinking some green tea.
Good for you. :)
Good suggestion Lynz.
We have tried before.
Of course the usuals: Chas, CapnAmerica, Linda, WS Clark, JR, Apophis, KFG, CF2K, and a few others wouldn’t be able to do it.
I just want to know that top law officers of our state obey the laws…Is that so outrageous?
That is fair for media to investigate.
What is the LEGAL definition of residence?
I’ll tell you what it ISN’T. It’s not renting a tiny apartment above a storage unit in order to get around the law which requires him to reside in the county in which he holds office.
It’s clear he doesn’t live there, KCTV has shown he doesn’t even visit the apartment, but that he has been observed repeatedly coming and going from his home in Topeka, where he and his wife reside, and where their children attend school.
You’re the one not paying attention.
http://www.jocoelection.org/default.htm
It seems that Phill needs to be a registered voter where he LIVES. And to be DA he need to be a registered voter where he LIVES.
An address of some apartment where you don’t live doesn’t seem to be - well…honest…?
His tearful daughter preaching to the cameras on the night he lost the Attorney General race should do some preaching at home. Honesty, integrity…
Doesn’t Phill still pop-in to this blog…what’s his blog name…help me here, I can’t remember? Phill - are you there? No, he is probably somewhere on I-70 between Shawnee and Johnson Counties.
I wonder how many signatures it would take to convene a Grand jury to investigate Kline?
I wonder what County sticker is on his car tags?
I wonder what County sticker is on his car tags?
Posted by: Ben | November 27, 2007 at 04:26 PM
The county where his car is registered? :)
WOW Paul, talk about your apologetic.
NY, Clintons have been investigated endlessly, and yet, the best you all can come up with is a blow job. Maybe that’s because they truly have nothing you can squalk about.
I’d also say that’s why she SHOULD be our next president, by golly we know all about her more than anyone else.
kansas - which is SUPPOSED to be his residence.
“How much is Kline working, where is he living?”
Unless I live in Johnson County, why do I care?
Um, well, you cared enough to click on the blog link and post that you might care…? But, sadly, I do know what you mean. It is always disgusting to see a lying, cheating politican of any stripe.
K.S.A. 22a-103(d) is the pertinent statutory provision; see also 22a-102 concerning who may run for the office (a qualified elector in the judicial district, i.e., a registered voter).
However, for all the sound and fury this has generated, GMC nails it in his 4:38 PM post (assuming, of course, Mr. Kline determines not to run for public office in the future, then it may become an issue).
kansas - which is SUPPOSED to be his residence.
Posted by: Ben | November 27, 2007 at 04:35 PM
Maybe Ben,
I think there is more to what a residence than meets the eye.
For instance, for voting - “while I was waiting in line to vote” I over heard this conversation, a utility bill, an old voting registration form and etc. Not once did I hear anything about car registration.
I have two houses in two Kansas counties. I consider my Wichita address to be my legal residence and declare such.
I pay taxes for both, utilities for both and can get mail at both addresses.
However, I’m not the principle occupant of the house in the other county. So, I don’t go there on weekends :D
I understand conditions of employment may require a residence established, but as has already been pointed out, residency requirements are a bit “fuzzy” in Kansas.
Besides, Kline was the Johnson County State Representative clear up unto the time of election to State AG. Then, he moved to Topeka to be closer to his job.
Maybe he is having a hard time selling his home or doesn’t want to sell it?
Doesn’t matter to me as Kline has already proven he is a long time resident of Johnson County.
This is about partisan politic sniping by a TV station, nothing else.
Re: Kansas
DNFTT
It appears that channel 5’s entire story adds up to nothing. Typical of the Wichita Eagle’s own Kline vendetta.
Does anyone expect Phill to uproot his family, sell his house and really move his entire family to Johnson County for a short term position? Would you? He obviously rented the apartment to comply with the letter of the law.
I have yet to see anyone come up with an applicable legal definition that shows Kline is not complying. If you can’t do that, then all you are is partisan noise.
Does anyone expect Phill to uproot his family, sell his house and really move his entire family to Johnson County for a short term position?Posted by: outlander | November 27, 2007 at 04:51 PM
His AG stint was equally short term, yet he managed to move from JoCo to Topeka for _that_ job.
Nice try at spin, though.
ksagnostic,
Nothing Kansas said was directed towards anyone in a trolling way.
His comments were about the subject of the thread.
Now you come here to say don’t feed the Troll about Kansas?
The only troll right now is you.
His AG stint was equally short term, yet he managed to move from JoCo to Topeka for _that_ job.
Nice try at spin, though.
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What did you say Tom? All I can hear is this fuzzy irrelevant partisan noise.
Outlander,
I answered your hypothetical with an actual. Too bad you didn’t like the answer.
Nathan said: “Nothing Kansas said was directed towards anyone in a trolling way.
His comments were about the subject of the thread.”
Examples of Kansas posts from this very thread:
“I never had a meltdown and I’m still here.
“You don’t know me very well do you?
“But keep those arm flailing Tom, it’s all you got.
“When you can’t post intelligently to the Blog, you attack other people.
“It’s what you do and who you are.
“A bitter, old narcissist, attacked based, agenda driven prune.”
Rank hypocrisy is a weapon of choice of trolls. Attack someone for being someone who attacks other people, and make sure you pepper it with personal insults.
“Tom, I must say - your accusations are disgusting.
It’s like when you first popped up on the WE Blog and try to put the moves on me.
“No one values the opinion of a lecherous, disgusting old man who thinks everyone who has a differing opinion needs to be attack with false accusation.”
And these comments were about the subject of the thread, HOW?
Your comments indicate that either you did not really read the thread, or you are so blinded by a partisan “this is my guy, a fellow conservative, you’re beating up on” that you weren’t paying attention.
Either way…
I stand by my commments.
By the way, Nathan, being a true troll is a real skill. There aren’t many effective ones on this blog.
Kansas is an exception.
What Kansas county do you reside in ksagnostic?
If it is Johnson County, you can go file a FOIA and find out things yourself.
Or you can spend all your blog time, trying to make points about me that no one really cares about.
Oh and this is for ksagnostic…
DNFTT
“I think there is more to what a residence than meets the eye.”
“It depends on what the definition of “is” is.”
“I have two houses in two Kansas counties.”
Not unless they’ve recently redrawn the county lines you don’t.
Liar.
And look who shows up to cause trouble?
None other than JM himself.
Who is in control of the troll today?
Chas? CapnAmerica? KFG? JR?
“Oh and this is for ksagnostic…
DNFTT”
If you truly believe that, you’re too late, because this followed a response to my post.
BTW:
“What Kansas county do you reside in ksagnostic?
“If it is Johnson County, you can go file a FOIA and find out things yourself.”
These are NOT trollish comments. Neither were your arguments about Kline in particular. You deviated into trolldom when you made an outlandish interpretation of Tom’s snarky post about Kline and then went into the personal insults while hypocritically peppering your post with personal insults. When I say that you are trolling when you do this, I am saying that you know what you are doing what you are doing. It’s the old Ann Coulter trick of “Those damn, good for nothing anti-Christian liberals who should be shot never have anything positive to say.”
She’s just looking for outrage.
So are you, I would wager, when you pull what you did with Tom above.
However, even if I strongly disagree with you on a topic, I don’t think everything you post is trollish.
As for whether Kline is actually an honest in an ethical sense resident of Johnson County, I think Tom made his point very well. If you think its a tempest in a teapot, fine. I still believe that Phill Kline is an ends justifies the means ideologue. I think he’s contemptable.
That’s my opinion, anyway.
See how it works? You get might get a response from me for non-trollish behavior (I actually complimented you on an arena related post, BTW).
But, when I see a clearly trollish post, I post DNFTT.
That way, you KNOW when and why I think you should be ignored.
The problem with the statutory provision that apparently is in play is simple; there’s no definition of residency. That might be due to the difficulty in defining the term. It would, however, be beneficial for the Legislature to give it a try at some point, should this become an issue with more elected officials.
As anyone who has been in the military knows, the concept of “residency” is tied to the term “home of record” (or at least it was back in the mid 1970s). Generally, as it was applied back then, the home of record (residency) was the place to which the service member intended to return once separated from service. One could change this; many did while I was on active duty to Florida or Texas, those being states which had no individual income tax on residents.
In the civilian world, it isn’t so easily qualified. Thus, Mr. Kline may well be residing in Topeka, as suggested by the linked “report”, while he considers himself a resident of Johnson County. The Topeka home might be considered by him as “temporary”.
In any event, his conduct is worthy of a look by the folks in Johnson County, and if they have no problem, then at this point, why should anyone else care? BTW, if there is a problem felt to exist by enough voters, then they certainly are entitled to try a recall vote, as an example, as there will be no election in which Mr. Kline, per his own announcement, will be running for reelection.
“I have two houses in two Kansas counties.”
Not unless they’ve recently redrawn the county lines you don’t.
Liar.
Posted by: JM | November 27, 2007 at 05:12 PM
And you would know this how?
Are you stalking me off line again? :)
Actually Vaughn, concerning the home of record, there were a lot of people who changed their residency to Texas and other states.
Why? Because Texas had no State Income Tax and the fees for license plates were cheaper. :)
I remember the big hoodoo about New York State going after GI’s for back taxes. Must have been a mass movement of “Home of Record” after that happened. heh
“The Topeka home might be considered by him as “temporary”.”
And maybe Kline considers his rented room above a storage unit to be “home”.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Good suggestion Lynz.
We have tried before.
Of course the usuals: Chas, CapnAmerica, Linda, WS Clark, JR, Apophis, KFG, CF2K, and a few others wouldn’t be able to do it.
Posted by: Nathan | November 27, 2007 at 04:14 PM
This is TRUE reichwing behavior………….drag my nic onto a thread where I have made ZERO posts.
Don’t you need to be cleaning that weapon again marine-boy?
Actually, yeah I do need to clean my guns.
I might put in Red Dawn on DVD, microwave some popcorn and clean my guns.
I should probably rotate out my M4 Magazines which are loaded too. Need to relieve that spring pressure!
You are one SICK person marine-boy.
hoo-RAH
The KGB called people they didnt like “sick” and put them into Gulags
Apophis, you dont speak Russian do you?
Ditto apophis. I havent even posted on this thread and I’m accused of being JM?
And besides, I thought Kansas approved of nic switching.
I am surprised Paul doesnt hurt himself badly making all those gymnastic moves. He gets points for effort, but for style and difficulty, he gets none.
And isnt it interesting that the wingnuts here tried so hard to divert the thread by changing the subject to Tom.
BIG efffin’ eye roll.
Kline is the dead and stinking chicken hanging around the neck of both the JOCO and Kansas GOP. He’s gonna hafta rot off, and the stink will remain long after the corpse is gone.
You reap what you sew. Just like bonbon.
Oh yes….
I legally own several firearms.
I love to shoot and collect firearms.
I am a proud American. I have served honorably in the Marine Corps for over 11 years. I believe in honoring God, Family, Country, and Corps. I am respectful, kind, and love to serve others.
I would hate to see who you don’t consider to be a sick person if I am sick in your eyes!
Sorry, shoulda been sow not sew. Heheehhe.
Nathan and Kansas both resorting to threats, both veiled and explicit? Say it isnt so….
I guess we are not supposed to disagree with nathan because he is such a BAD and CRAZY dude with all those weapons.
Whatever.
Kline is still here. And still all yours. Spin away, but the majority of Kansans saw through the spin a loooooooong time ago.
I must have missed it KFG.
Where did I resort to threats?
… but I do indeed love how they jump when they imagine the spector of “Chas, CapnAmerica, Linda, WS Clark, JR, Apophis, KFG, CF2K, and a few others”.
HEE HEE HEE HEE.
A lib under every tea cup.
Paranoid much?
KFG,
What does thinking certain posters don’t contribute much to the discussion have to do with being paranoid?
Pauile, tovarich………….
lock me up, I am not your comrad!
WOLVERINES!
Nathan if the Gunny caught you cleaning your “rifle” with a bag of buttery popcorn on the table do you think:
A. He’d ask you for a handful?B. Ask you how’s your sister?C. Rip you a new -sshole.
Regards
Leatherneck
Nathan,
Squeeze off a coupl’a rounds for me, will ya? I keep hoping someone will break into the house so I can get some target practice, but no one’s done it yet.
I can only dream…(For those who can’t grasp sarcasm, the above statement should be understood to have the clear intent of upsetting as many liberals as possible.)
Eaglebeak,
LOL, I’m not in boot camp anymore.
Actually,
2 of the 4 Gunny’s in my unit are avid gun enthusiasts like myself and would probably ask me for some popcorn.
The other 2 wouldn’t care. I am an Armorer and fix weapons.
They are not going to say much of anything to me when it comes to cleaning one.
Lying, cheating and stealing, no wonder he made Operation Rescue’s Man of the Year.
Well I did not vote for Kline in the AG election. I was not happy with his job performance and single issue agenda.
But I have to be fair and I think most of Channel 5’s report is hype.
Tonight, I listened to Kansas City radio KMBZ 980 AM when they interviewed Phil Kline live.(They said they are going to publish/post the interview on their website so I have that link below. Tomorrow sometime.)
Here is my take on listening to his response:
1) He knew Channel 5 was following him and his family around for months.
2) He grew up and lived in Johnson County most of his life. He only moved to Topeka when elected to state AG.
3) After he lost, he left his 15 year old daughter in a school she likes with friends/education program - in Topeka. Something I myself experienced in the military. Makes sense.
4) He rented an apartment back in Johnson County after he lost. He is living/sleeping there. Of course - like any father he commutes to see his family back in Topeka. Makes sense.
5) He states he met the law in that his INTENT is to permanently reside in Johnson County. Makes sense - and is his word against anyone elses.
6) KCTV5 has scared his daughtet to death by following her around in their UNmarked vehicle. They follow her everywhere (Paparazzi anyone - my words?).
7) They followed apartment tenants and scare them as well. One a female school teacher. Have to ask Channel 5 why they did this. Phil doesn’t know.
8) Only worked 29 hours a week. Horseshit. He didn’t always park in his assigned spot, which has a security badge swipe and record. Documented times he was WORKING while his car was NOT in the assigned space (example on the case of a murderer - he was working off site).
9) The parking garage records are admittedly INcomplete by the staff, and sometimes reflect him swiping IN - but never out.
10) The newscast purposely used black and white photography and slow motion. Old trick to make him loook “sinister”.
11) Interview. Channel 5 said he only said, “catch you later” and shows him driving away. (Another tactic to make him look guilty fleeing). He states they CUT his comments of “Leave my daughter alone.”
http://kmbz.com/Shanin–amp–Parks-DAILY-SHOW-TOPICS-Page/1033849
Because there are usually two sides to any story, tonight, KCTV5 is dedicating a FULL 30 MINUTES at 10 PM to a special on their “Kline Investigation”.
http://www.kctv5.com/index.html
I voted to throw this rascal out, and am glad I did. But I’m sorry folks - I think this is a perfect media frenzied event without any real merit. By merit - legal wrongdoing.
I can see both sides to the “resident” issue. But as former military, I moved a lot over 20+ plus years. It’s always a pain in different states and lcoales when they all try to tax you (military soldiers/sailors act for the most part non-residents, but many exceptions).
Without clear and convincing proof, the tie must go to the person charged.
Kline 1/KCTV5 0
But I will watch the broadcast.
Please take the time to at least listen to Klines side at KMBZ radio, before you too judge.
2 of the 4 Gunny’s in my unit are avid gun enthusiasts like myself and would probably ask me for some popcorn.Posted by: Nathan
You werre an armorer? 2111? Something like that.
My best buddy in my first real permanent duty station was the armorer. I was assigned to E/2/3 KBay. Open squad bay days. Anyway, we didn’t have real armorer’s by PMOS. It was a sharp 03 who knew weapons and could fix things who got the job. His name was Whited. Anyway, we met when I was standing amory watch (naturally) - four grueling hours of walking back and forth within some stupid yellow lines, which if no one was supposed to cross. Neverunderstood that. Like some Russian agent was going to sneak into HI, then sneak into KMCAS, past the guards, gates, fence, then, cross over to 3rd Marines area, then pick Echo Company’s armory to STEAL secrets or weapons! Anyway, Whited was my home-boy, back in the crib, so we hit it off. He was a real nice guy, but also a loan shark - never got caught. Still remember 10 for 20? I never needed a loan, which is probably why we stayed friends. He was smart and quiet. I bet he left the service with quite a loot. Especially after floats. Kangaroo II 1976 was my first. LST San Bernadino 1189? Anyway, from there to Olongapo and Mag-sisi Drive, shit river bridge. Cpl Whited took care of me and my weapon. He’d turn it out to have someone else clean sometimes (as extra line something gear). Sure would like to say hello to him after all these years. I don’t know if he ever did pick up the MOS. Did the MCI courses and probably had promises all unfulfilled.
Sorry. Long winded.
I like Red Dawn too, but dont they violate many “rules” of war killing wounded/pow’s using IED’s killing collaborator pretty much the same tactics the Iraqis use against us? the same tactics we call foul when used against us? Were the new Russians
pssst, Rev Jim…
Red Dawn is a movie…
psssssst, “kansas” is a reichwing troll..
Pssst! Apophis is a leftwing socialist troll!!
I’d rather be labeled “leftwing” anyday!
You gotta love seeing the “party of personal responsibility” falling all over themselves to explain how a government servant need not even put in 30 hours a week.
Where’s Max screaming about “socialism and union featherbedding!”
IOKIYAR
The allegation over his working hours are just that - unproven claims by one media outlet.
There is another side. I’m not defending his political position, goals, or any of that.
But there are two sides to this story. Please Captain listen to the interview with Kline as well as KCPT5. The broadcast is on the web at 10PM….tonite.
I’m not explaining anything. Just stating that this is build up by the media for ratings - this time.
V is for Vendetta.
Pssst! Apophis is a leftwing socialist troll!!
Posted by: Is this fun or what?
You can tell a lefty troll by the number of ’ssssssssssssssss’ in their psst!
S looks like the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ they want all of us to give to the feds.
CapnAmerica,
I didn’t see anyone defending only putting in 30 hours or less a week.
I did see several people saying that there are several ways of working wihtout simply sitting in the office for 30 hours a week as recorded by a parking key card.
Typical strawman argument style.
Monday’s hit piece on DA Phill Kline reeked of yellow journalism, and presented no real evidence that Kline is anything but an outstanding DA, vigorously prosecuting crime and, in particular, putting his career on the line to finally begin prosecuting covered-up abortion mill crime that has long been endangering and victimizing mothers, besides taking their hard cash for killing their chidren.If KCTV5 is trying to do the community a service, which I seriously doubt, they should try investigating the rampant abortion mill scandals, such as filthy conditions, violations of state laws, medical regulations, personnel training and safety and equipment violations, and illegal sales of aborted baby parts. Then there’s the deaths and the serious and life-threatening complications and infections from RU-486, particularly Missouri’s RU-486 abortion mill. (RU-486 is ten times more dangerous than first-trimester surgical abortions, but accounts for over 10% of abortions nationwide, 20% in Iowa.) Then there’s the insurance fraud in out-of-state, high-risk, post-viable, elective abortions in Tiller’s Wichita abortion mill, and the fraudulent billing of taxpayers in Title X abortions.Doesn’t anyone at KCTV5 know what their job ought to be, as far as investigations that protect the public, expecially mothers in desperate situations, usually being coerced into unsafe abortion mills? Anyone down there got a heart, or is it strictly a cash box show?
The Eagle seems obsessed with Kline. They cannot let him go. But kill babies and you are a hero. Object to it and God help you but they will come after you like rabid dogs.
Hey, John.
Now that you’ve got the Supreme Court packed with your people, why don’t you make “baby killing” illegal again?
Go ahead. There’s nothing stopping you unless you enjoy getting played for a tool by your own party.
I did see several people saying that there are several ways of working wihtout simply sitting in the office for 30 hours a week as recorded by a parking key card.
Posted by: Nathan
Cool, Nathan. Tell your Dad to tell his boss that.
Better yet, tell your CO next time you’re shipped out.
“Hey, man, I can do it from here . . . “
CapnAmerica,
The President of WSU SGA spends at least 10 hours a week in meetings with different organization and groups and probably another 10-20 hours a month at other meetings working.
When he/she is not in the office for the paid 20 hours sitting behind a desk we don’t sit around crying.
Is this making any sense to you yet or do I need to list a million different ways that you work at various jobs while not actually being in the office?
Boy, I wonder how someone in the lawn care business makes any money cutting grass if they spent 40 hours sitting in the office…
Does a pilot deserve to get paid anything?
They don’t work in the office either.
I wonder how lawyers ever argue a case when all they are supposed to be doing is sitting in the office?
Lets see…
Who else is not working in the office?
WaitersTaxi DriversBus DriverTeachersPolice
I could go all day.
So tell me CapnAmerica, do you think they should all be fired because they were not working the office 40 hours a week?
I am not sticking up for a Republican here but the fact is that with the technology we have today people’s hours “at the office” do not necessarily reflect their hours of work. Attorneys can do lots of work at home. They have the same access to Westlaw and the office computer whether in the office or at home.
Krazy kline = abortion issue.
J R’s canned abortion issue post.
Abortion is legal. It will always be legal. Those who say they want to make it illegal cannot do so and won’t for fear of losing it as an issue anyway.
Mitigate abortion by devoting effort to making ours a society that welcomes and supports ALL life.
JR,
The war on terror will continue. It will until we win. Those who say they want to end the war cannot do so and wont for fear of losing it as an issue anyway.
Amazing how I can cookie cut the logic of your argument to demonstrate it’s absurdity.
Your war Nathan. Go back. I understand they need qualified people. And it won’t ever be over only because it is self perpetuating. Go join the fun. Leave me and mine out of it.
J R,
The only ones I know trying to involve you are the Democrats calling for another draft.
Don’t worry. By the time you are done brainwashing your kid about how bad the military is I don’t think we would want to involve him in any war.
I don’t tell my kid that the military is bad Nathan.
I tell him the military is badly used. A draft would work to correct that.
So which is it JR?
On one hand you tell me not to involve you and on the other you support a draft.
In fact Nathan you KNOW that I don’t disrespect the military.
That life aint for me I give you that.
But you yourself have personal experience with me.
At the meetup last year I introduced my son to you. I told him, “This is Nathan, he’s a Marine.”
Now I don’t THINK I said it like you were the bogeyman or a pariah. Did I?
I support a draft and would help my kid stay out of it.
Makes me feel Presidential. Kinda like George bush Sr.
No you didn’t JR.
I appreciated the fact that you came out to see me off.
I love seeing you and talking with you in person.
You have said things, pertaining to the color guard or ROTC and other things which I didn’t agree with though.
I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt for now and consider it dropped.
If he was out at meetings or trials, that would be rather easy to prove, now wouldn’t it?
So what’s the problem?
Now, the residency issue is much bigger, and I think since he’s obviously not RESIDING there, he should be replaced pronto.
You righties would have a FIELD day if this was someone on the opposite side.
And you know it.
Well I’ll take back what I said.
DO NOT go back over there. I honestly did not mean that. You have done your time. And it is a bit hypocritical of me to argue against the Iraq thing and then tell you to go fight it.
And for the record Nathan, I would not have opposed the JROTC and such. But as a parent I see things you don’t. I post some of it here.
You may always rest assured that whether you agree with me or not that my posts and positions are my best take as to what is proper use of the military. And even if we disagree, at least I bother to care. That’s better than being uninformed and uninvolved.
Political Mom,
I don’t know it. I have never been so picky that I am going after something so petty as to a lawyer not being in his office 40 hours a week or having a home in Topeka.
Sorry, don’t think so.
Lets see…
Who else is not working in the office?
WaitersTaxi DriversBus DriverTeachersPolice
I could go all day.
So tell me CapnAmerica, do you think they should all be fired because they were not working the office 40 hours a week?
Posted by: Nathan | November 27, 2007 at 09:03 PM
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Now that’s just plain DUMB Nathan… YOU know, as does everybody else reading it, that THOSE individuals you list have a “different” kind of office from a District attorney!!
Waittress office = waiting tablesPolice officer = Squad Car, or BeatTeachers = classroomTaxi Drivers = CABBus Drivers = BUS
Yea, I could go on all day too… and each one of them spends their “40 hours” at THEIR office!! On duty, at their assigned post…
NOT the same thing as what they are talking about Kline doing…
Not at all!! I cant believe you tried to even get away with something so ridiculous!!
BTW, a Cab Driver is considered a self=employed person.. they Rent their cab from the company..
Just so we get that straight…
====>>>> POINT =====>>>>
Chas Head
Just so we get that straight…
What’s the matter Nathan?? Cant take it??
Maybe Chas should read the story here and see how the TV station drew their conclusions.
http://www.kctv5.com/news/14699737/detail.html
I know Chas won’t read it, his attention span isn’t very long.
Now, the residency issue is much bigger, and I think since he’s obviously not RESIDING there, he should be replaced pronto.Posted by: political_mom | November 27, 2007 at 09:55 PM
Just watched it live on TV5 PM.
The landlord AND his wife BOTH stated Kline is sleeping in the rental house.
So now what?
What’s the matter Chas, can’t take it?
Just watched it live here in KC on Channel 5.
Their report is totally one-sided, amature, and very, very obviously hyped with commercial breaks and fanfare. Much like the advertisements for Barnum and Bailey Circus.
I kid you not.
Still Kline 1/TV5 zero
(and I voted against Kline for state AG)
“I have two houses in two Kansas counties. I consider my Wichita address to be my legal residence and declare such.”
These statements appear doubtful on their face and given the nonsense of this particular poster, especially unlikely.
ChasAfter working 4 years in a Court House environment, with a staff of roughly 25 to manage, I can tell you that the best work I did, on behalf of the taxpayers, was at home, or at my for-profit business office.Some of the best thinking I did was while I was commuting, or while I went away to some worthless meeting. I scribled notes and thought of worthwhile things while the speakers droned on about whatever made them feel important.In the office?Back-biting, catty behavior, personality disputes among the staff, elected officials dropping by to chat.Ya, that stuff had to be done, but — sometimes I wondered if some of the “problems” that presented themselves, when I was there would not have happened, in the first place, if I were gone. If noone was there to “tattle” to, maybe there would be no “tattleing”? (personality problems between staff members) Or, mabye, problems would have taken care of themselves, in my absence.Dont get me wrong: Being Chief Deputy Clerk was one of the most rewarding things I have ever done. I also really liked most of the people I worked with. I loved the job. However, I think the way to do a job is this:
1.) Make yourself “irreplaceable”2.) Replace yourself (meaning teach other people to do the job, after you master the job.)
Hard to know if you did well at #2, if you are hanging around all the time to bail everyone out of their little problems.
We had a relatively small staff. The petty problems in a large DA office must be many times worse to deal with.
I know that if Kline is working on real court cases, he will be talking to law enforcement, and sometimes that means he is going to them, instead of them comming to him.
I know that if Kline is working on real court cases, he will be talking to law enforcement, and sometimes that means he is going to them, instead of them comming to him.
Posted by: Econ101 | November 27, 2007 at 10:31 PM
If anyone of you BOTHERED to listen to Phil Kline speak on 980 KMBZ: He states where he is on several of the occassions the amatures at Chnl 5 couldn’t find him. He provides dates/times.
So, you can all keep posting crap, or listen to facts which have NOT been disputed locally here in KC.
I am upset. Not because of the poor reporting by KCPT5, but the liberals who are so gullible and eat up anything - without checking facts or acknowledging truth.
That is worse than the poor reporting. That some Americans are so addicted to the TV, that it has become their God, in affect.
Eagle Beak,
Like I said before. We can pile up all the evidence in the world, show how the liberals are wrong a hundered different ways.
A year from now they will still be talking about how Kline “lied” about where he lived and how he cheated the tax payers by only working 30 hours a week.
Looks to me like Ch. 5 has a pretty good story building… Kline NEEDS to prove he has a “Residence” in Johnson County… As to the case load, and record, that shows he must have some fairly competent staff attorneys. He obviously cant handle the Johnson County office by himself on 29 hours/week…
Chas,
Why does Kline need to prove anything?
How is it so obvious that he can’t handle the Jo Co office?
Do you just pull this stuff out of your rear end or what?
A year from now they will still be talking about how Kline “lied” about where he lived and how he cheated the tax payers by only working 30 hours a week.
Posted by: Nathan | November 27, 2007 at 10:39 PM
Exactly Nathan.
That’s the main reason I don’t cut Libs any slack.
They are liars, two faced liars and repeat liars. The only thing they tell the truth about is the fact they don’t hide that they lie about things just to get people irate.
Kind of like the Doubting Thomas troll poster here a few minutes ago.
Too scared to post under his/her own nic because they can’t create a lie good enough to get out they ever said it.
Just like Chas posting”Kline NEEDS to prove he has a “Residence” in Johnson County.”
He knows it’s a lie and he knows it’s a residence listed in Johnson County as a residence of Phill Kline.
Yet, Chas would rather repeat the lie.
And Chas will next week, next month or next year keep repeating the same lie even though he knows its a lie.
That’s why I don’t give Libs any slack, liars - each and everyone of them.
They refuse to tell the truth, only lies.
Econ — I am aware of the staff/time demands in any kind of County Office… even Cheif Deputy Clerk… And if YOUR time was that important, the time of the DA(county attorney) is even more important… If Kline is out talking to law enforcement on all of his cases, what is it that the detectives do?? I have some family members, and friends who have served as detectives, and who talked about all the hours they spent in the DA’s office…
I have had two relatives who have served as DA’s — one in Kansas… one elsewhere… They managed to have a good week, if they only worked about 50 hours per week… and probably about 95% of that time AT their offices…
I would be a whole lot more likely to accept the “residence” issue if it wasnt located at a storage facility.. you know, a regular type apartment?? or even a small little house, or even a mobile home park… But a storage facility?? And not even in a town CLOSE to the office?? If he was renting some place in Overland Park, or Olathe, or somewhere like that, it would be a lot more acceptable… IMHO
Will Kline be prosecuted for registering to vote in a district he doesn’t live? Looks like Paul Morrison should lay down the law. Convict or revoke his license to practice law.
Chas,
I am surprised that Kline didn’t contact you personally to find out what would be an acceptable residence for you before renting the one he did.
Curious.
Too bad it doesn’t matter what is acceptable to Chas. What matters is that it is a residence.
They managed to have a good week, if they only worked about 50 hours per week… and probably about 95% of that time AT their offices…
Posted by: Chas. | November 27, 2007 at 10:47 PM
I don’t get fired up and post here often enough.
But I’ve been here enough to know Chas has a relative or knows someone or did something - of everything ever posted here. He in short is an expert in everything. Like the kid you was a golden glove boxer, right Chas?
Even if your post on the hours of your relatives IS true - it proves absolutely nothing and has zero bearing on the facts of Kline.
Nothing Chas. You post nothing. All fluff. I imagine it makes you feel BIG, and INVOLVED, and KNOWLEDGEABLE.
But it is all scroll over.
The truth or a legal case as your “two relatives” would tell you - has nothing to do with your outsider position in life.
Big Zero Chas.
My goodness, Kansas… That is SO on point about the Kline issue… attacking the poster, instead of the issue… How nice of you to keep up with your illogical posting… When you cant back up what you think is true, you just attack a poster with your slime –
Truth??? I dont really care WHAT happens to Kline… I am only extremely happy he isnt the State AG… I did my fair share to try to see to that matter… And I am not talking about $$$ contributions… cause I dont have that kind of money!!
Kline won’t mind an investigation into his living quarters since he isn’t an advocacy of privacy rights.
But a storage facility??
Posted by: Chas.
Chas. Hello. It’s me Eagle Beak. I live in the area. I drove by the residence.
Guess what? It is an a.p.a.r.t.m.e.n.t. It is connected to the owners/landlords H.O.U.S.E…
Can’t you see? Open your eyes!!! The NEWS MEDIA IS BLITZING YOU!!
And you sir, are the sucker of the hour.
No Chas, not attacking a poster, attacking all Libs who are all liars.
It’s a simple concept to remember.
Unless you are lying to yourself Chas. :)
“Even if your post on the hours of your relatives IS true - it proves absolutely nothing and has zero bearing on the facts of Kline.”– Eagle Beak –
Possibly not… But then by your own statement, you are also questioning the words in the video of Bob Hecht - Shawnee County DA -who clearly stated the kind of hours it takes to do HIS job(50-60)
But, what?? If it’s MY friends, or family, it’s just lies??
I dont recall ever posting about golden gloves, but at one time I did spend a year doing golden gloves (jr. golden gloves) MANY years(42) ago. I didnt pursue it beyond one year! But I still remain a big boxing fan to this day.
So, what difference does it make, if it’s one of MY family, or friends who knows the time it takes to be a DA, or if it’s Bob Hecht? If Kline isnt doing his job, then what IS he doing with his time, that the Taxpayers are shelling out $143,000 for?
I see Chas is still telling lies, he can’t help himself, he’s a Lib.
Well,
I think I am off to beat my head against a wall.
I will have more luck getting the wall to move out of my heads way than getting any of you liberals to have a logical and reasoned discussion on this.
Jesus Said:
“I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”
“He who has believed and has been baptized shall be saved; but he who has disbelieved shall be condemned.”
The Repubs. want to know every detail of Hillaries 8 yrs. while Bill was in office, could care less about seeing any records on Kline.
Possibly not… But then by your own statement, you are also questioning the words in the video of Bob Hecht - Shawnee County DA -who clearly stated the kind of hours it takes to do HIS job(50-60)
No Chas. You idiot. I’m saying what Bob or Joe or Tom say about the hours it takes - it means not a damn thing in relation to Phil Kline. Nothing Chas, you are off in fairy land without wings and without a place to land.
Let me make it simple and I’ll type this real slow so maybe you can keep up.
No one has proven or even stated that Phil Kline was NOT working. All they have stated is WHEN HIS CAR WAS PARKED IN A PARKING SPOT.
And they admit, the records are INCOMPLETE.
Geez oh weez oh. Now I understand libs a little better.
Nathan, Jesus was a zombie. Why should I follow a zombie when zombies only want to eat brains?
The Repubs. want to know every detail of Hillaries 8 yrs. while Bill was in office, could care less about seeing any records on Kline.
Posted by: The Phantom | November 27, 2007 at 11:08 PM
If Kline was running for President, he would be under the same scrutiny.
Doug is on the crack pipe tonight folks, pay no attention to him.
the Taxpayers are shelling out $143,000 for?
Posted by: Chas
So what do you care Chas? You got no money and you pay no taxes. You certainly are not paying Johnson County taxes and from what I gather you would not qualify to live in the richest county in Kansas.
Very few vagrants or poor here. We bus them out. And no unemployed mail order preachers.
Our churches are BIG.
Beak, the reason the parking lot records are incomplete is because the County officials didnt turn them over in a proper manner… Can you remember the 18 1/2 minutes from the Nixon years?? LOL
Beak, I’ve lived in a LOT bigger places than Johnson County… Johnson County is SMALL compared to some places I have lived and worked… And, I am NOT out of work… How many times do I have to SAY that!! Go bang your head on the wall… maybe it will activate some of the memory cells in your brains???
He might have been working undercovers.
I should listen to Nathan and the others instead of wasting my time.
Chas, you haven’t a clue.
Go watch the video. Listen to the tape on KMBZ 980 AM to Klines own remarks.
He was working - other reporters SAW HIM IN THE COURTROOM while Channel 5 reporter was still watching the empty parking lot waiting for a car to show up - that never did.
On one date, his wife dropped him off at work as they had a dinner engagement that night. Like a sucker, Channel 5 reporter sat for 8 solid hours watching the garage door for a car to show up.
Spin on.
But the investigation by an amature television reporter is going nowhere. A little flash for this week. But it’s a dead issue in the long run.
Why? Because there is no evidence of wrongdoing.
I’ve lived in a LOT bigger places than Johnson County… Johnson County is SMALL compared to some places I have lived and worked…
Oh yes Chas. I know you did. Yes I bet you did Chas. Oh most certainly Chas. Just like you were a golden glove boxer and then a rocket scientist. Yes Chas we know how important you are. Your vast worldly experiences and professional jobs you’ve held flatter me to no end.
Such a loss to the world, that you decided to settle in little ole Wichita, Kansas to collect your unemployment benefits.
We know Chas. We know.
Hey, if Kline claims Johnson County as his Legal residence… Then how does he manage to deduct his Mortgage Interest on that home he OWNS in Shawnee County??
I dont think you are allowed to deduct interest on a secondary residence.. And where does he pay his State Property Tax?? If his Legal Residence is in Johnson County, as a “rental” he pays no Property Tax there… But he OWNS a home in Shawnee County.. Pays School tax in Shawnee County.. Pays Property tax in Shawnee County..
That all looks to me as if the Johnson County rental is a secondary residence to me.. Didnt we just have that problem with a City Council candidate or County Commission candidate here in Wichita this past election?? Some kid said he lived in one house, but really lived in a different “district”??
Give it up Eagle Beak…
Libs are liars and will do anything to save their reputation as liars.
Ummm — hey, blind Eagle… Cant you read? I dont collect unemployment benefits… nobody who is self-employed can do that… keep up, you blind bat.. ALSO I just posted, I am NOT unemployed!! I work for a living.. I pay my taxes.. And in case you didnt know it, Sedgwick County is still the biggest county in Kansas..
And yea, one other matter you keep getting WRONG… I have only ever worked in ONE Profession…
The one with all of the vast professional expertise on this Blog is Kansas…
You best keep up with things Blind Eagle… it makes you look terribly dense, and more like the idiot you obviously are!!
Uh oh Eagle Beak, Chas has whipped out the multiple exclamation points.
That means any hope of reasoning has long since gone bye bye.
Well, I am not going to keep up any conversations with Kansas and the sock puppet ballet… I have other things to do yet, before WORK tomorrow!!
That’s W-O-R-K for those of you who are reading challenged!!
Good Night; Good Luck; and God bless; whatever you conceive God to be!!
Blessings All!!
“I dont think you are allowed to deduct interest on a secondary residence.. And where does he pay his State Property Tax?? If his Legal Residence is in Johnson County, as a “rental” he pays no Property Tax there… “Chas
That’s right Chas: You don’t think.
To anyone who owns a home or property - or has ever owned a home or property, it is obvious Chas has never owned anything by his ignorant remarks.
Two sides to every story. Go to them tomorrow after they both post their interviews from today:
http://kmbz.com/Shanin–amp–Parks-DAILY-SHOW-TOPICS-Page/1033849
http://www.kctv5.com/index.html
However, if you are liberal, I will understand your not bothering to listen. Your minds have been made up for you already by big brother.
“”I dont think you are allowed to deduct interest on a secondary residence.. And where does he pay his State Property Tax?? If his Legal Residence is in Johnson County, as a “rental” he pays no Property Tax there… “” Chas==============================
You care to prove where I am wrong, Kitrell?? I dont think you can do it, so you just throw out more ad hominem garbage!!
Eagle blow err beak… I will listen to the KMBZ tomorrow… I already listened to the Ch. 5 item tonight… Thanks for the link…
I think Eagle editorial staff get paid according to the number of comments their blog posts receive (so I apologize for helping out here), but this topic is of no relevance to the Wichita Eagle’s circulation area. The topic was put out there just because the Eagle staff hates Kline, and knows his name will generate lots of comments, thus helping Brownlee’s comment count for this cycle.
James Phill Kline is a Kansas issue. And besides, the editors love to throw us some red meat every now and again.
I don’t believe they get paid for every post, but I know they do keep track of how well their blog does, and this is apparently one of the nation’s best newspaper blogs.
“Give it up Eagle Beak…
“Libs are liars and will do anything to save their reputation as liars.”
Re: Kansas
DNFTT
I find it curious that Phill (or should I say Parkay?) states that the press was following him and his family and it was intimidating…
Phill is a staunch supporter of the crazies who stalk Wichita area medical personnel who work at women’s health clinics. They are trained to not only stalk the medical personnel, but to stalk their kids too. There was an incident at an Wichita ice cream store where the police had to be called because children of a local clinic worker were being stalked (while they were eating ice cream) by Fundie radicals.
So - Phill, you are a hypocrite. You and your rightwingnut buddies have whined for years about Hillary not official living in New York…well, looks like you are a hypocrite on this issue too.
Phil Kline’s wife is ALSO registered voter at his Johnson County address. Are the Kline’s absentee parents? Who is at home with the 15 year old in Shawnee County? They both are - since his landlords have given conflicting reports to different media about whether or not he really lives at the Johnson County address.
And, his Johnson County landlord is a friend of his and a long time supporter (Pat Adair) and is president of a Kansas Chapter of a women’s group who believe women should be subservient to men.
Perhaps the reporters were aggressive - but Phill hasn’t been honest and his story and ambitions are unwinding (according to his office’s record of prosecutions).
LonnieTry to stay on point.
Did Kline break the law concerning residence requirements?
NO!
Is Kline an hourly employee required to “clock” at least 40 hours per week at his desk?
NO!
Does Kline do work outside of the office?
YES!
Did Kline always park in the same spot?
NO!
Did Kline always drive himself to work?
NO!
Everything else that you have said about Kline only shows that you have a political ax to grind.
All your other complaints only show your motive, in your attempt to hurt Kline.
Plain and simple, Kansas Election Laws (I have posted some links above or go to http://www.kssos.org ) say that to run for elective office a candidate needs to be a regiatered to vote at their residence. The state of Kansas and courts in Kansas have acted against candidates and officials who have either lied and said they live somehwere they don’t or had two addresses but lived primarily at another address (remember the hoopla regarding Henry Helgerson and how Henry had to “prove” where he lived? A lot of folks in the Republican Party went nuts over where Henry lived).
I don’t own an axe, but I do have a moral compass.