GOP presidential candidate Ron Paul has set a new record for raising the most campaign money in one day on the Internet — an amazing $4.2 million.
Paul, who alone among the Republican field has the guts to call the Iraq War a mistake, is catching on with the public, and arguably the media haven’t been giving him his due, according to this column by Brent Budosky.
"The Ron Paul phenomenon is worth serious attention," he writes, "because in a campaign that is vapid and empty of substance, this guy is the real deal."
Paul is refreshing because he simply says what he thinks, and that helps explain his appeal, even among people who don’t agree with his views. People are tired of the double-talk and carefully parsed and test-marketed stands by candidates.
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Third party! Third party! Third party!
It’s patently obvious that our federal government is wholly unresponsive to the will of the people.
Because of the electoral college system, something like 40 percent of the Senate only represents 11 percent of the population.
We haven’t had democracy in this country for a long time.
We have klepto-corporat-ocracy. Gov’t and corporations are joined together to feed at the public trough, and voters be damned: you’ll get more of the same and you’ll like it.
Where is Sol when the Eagle is finally writing about his guy?
Hes the only republican candidate that actually practices the small government beliefs that the Republicans are supposed to beilive in
Libertarianism is an appealing fantasy, and Paul is as creepy as they come.
The fact that he’s surging shows how dissatisfied the GOP is with their current candidate field.
Like cold water to a thirsty soul, so is good news from Ron Paul.
I agree, the straightforward talk is refreshing! Go to YOUTUBE. Listen to Ron. Then Hillary. Then Ron, then any of the rest. All the rest are political mumbo-jumbo and can’t seem to give a straight answer.
I am no great fan of Bush – but at least he tells us how he really feels (in bushspeech). And despite the fact polls and majorities do not agree with him -he does not flip-flop on the issues. (Consequently he stays wrong many times.)
But I respect that. I don’t like him. But I have more respect for being oneself and honesty – than anything else.
Sorry, this was a Ron Paul thread…..
Ron Paul has been speaking truth for 30 years.
It’s about time we woke up and heard it.
For those who might like more info:(0 Troop support) http://www.ronpaul2008.com/states/iowa/#military(1. straw polls) http://www.ronpaul2008.com/straw-poll-results(2. Ron Paul: A New Hope) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG2PUZoukfA(3. National Threat) http://www.ronpaulnation.com/tv.html#controller_general_david_walker(4. True cost of gas) http://www.terrarossa.com/?p=225(5. America: Freedom to Fascism) http://www.freedomtofascism.com(6. The Secret Government…) http://bullnotbull.blogspot.com/2007/01/secret-government-bill-moyers.html(7. Truth about Giuliani) http://therealrudy.org/(8. CIA drug dealing) http://youtube.com/watch?v=1l31x-IIK4E(9. Civil Liberties Lost) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8QwTKKSvR8&mode=related&search=(10. Money Masters) http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-515319560256183936(11. Iraq War: Legal or Illegal) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Khut8xbXK8&mode=related&search=
Book list from Ron Paul recommended reading for Giuliani:- Imperial Hubris by Michael Scheuer- Dying to Win, by Robert Pape- Blowback, by Chalmers Johnson- 9/11 Commission Report- 1984, by George Orwell
Other books:- A Foreign Policy of Freedom: Peace, Commerce, and Honest Friendship, by Ron Paul- The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy by John J. Mearsheimer and Stephen M. Walt
With the collapse of the Fred thompson candidacy maybe it is time for Paul to make his run in the GOP. Can he break away in Iowa or New Hampshire?
Ron has some time left to pick up voters, and I for one will be taking a serious look.
“Tom Paine”? What..? “Ron Paul is as creepy as they come”! Hey, Tom Paine is a revered revolutionary name. How about choosing another, perhaps “Tory Tom”? I can’t think of the original Tom Paine going along with our present King, Bush II, and agreeing with the King that torture is o.k. — will the REAL Tom Paine please stand up?
“Tom Paine”? What..? “Ron Paul is as creepy as they come”! Hey, Tom Paine is a revered revolutionary name. How about choosing another, perhaps “Tory Tom”? I can’t think of the original Tom Paine going along with our present King, Bush II, and agreeing with the King that torture is o.k. — will the REAL Tom Paine please stand up?
For those of you that wish to get involved locally, go to http://ronpaul.meetup.com/ and sign up for the Wichita Ron Paul meetup group. We’ve got almost a 100 members already, and we would be happy to have more!
Thank you for the article. It was fair and stuck the facts while resisting the urge to take pot shots at Dr. Paul or his supporters. For that, your publication deserves a heady round of applause!
As for some of your readers, however, I can’t say with any assuredness they have any idea what they are talking about. “Ron Paul is creepy”? Give me a break.
That person should try READING Thomas Paine rather than merely serving as his sorry imposter.
Thank you for the article. It was fair and stuck the facts while resisting the urge to take pot shots at Dr. Paul or his supporters. For that, your publication deserves a heady round of applause!
As for some of your readers, however, I can’t say with any assuredness they have any idea what they are talking about. “Ron Paul is creepy”? Give me a break.
That person should try READING Thomas Paine rather than merely serving as his sorry imposter.
Its funny how these die hard neo-cons continually bash Ron Paul. Please keep doing it. The more you bash, the more people are interested in finding out why you are bashing him. Once they find out, they easily realize it is you who are creepy or insane.
The more you bash, the more people are interested in finding out why you are bashing him.
I didn’t bash him. But I will, if your post means you will not vote for Hillary, but Ron instead?
We know Ron Paul is against the war in Iraq. What else do we know? What’s his stand on domestic issues? SS? Universal Health Care? Taxes?
Someone fill me in, please. I’m not fond of Libertarians.
“People are tired of the double-talk and carefully parsed and test-marketed stands by candidates.”
I have to agree; and if we can’t get it together to get this guy into office: just like the Russians, we deserve the third-world-dom that’s going to be thrust upon us.
Rox,
It would be much simpler if you simply checked out his website:
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/
I voted for Barry Goldwater.I voted for Ronald Reagan.I’m voting for Ron Paul.
He is just the next REAL conservative in line, sure the young crowd is a very enthusiastic bunch, but hey maybe they were just duped into choosing between Socialists and Neo-fascists.
I know it’s become fashionable on the internet, but I truly believe that they are an American style of modern day fascists. But that point aside…
This guy is the only real conservative running, I refuse to believe that the era of fighting for small-government is dead.
American Way- Why do you need a blog or newspaper to tell his positions? We live in the age of information son! I had no interest in Ron Paul until I saw his Neoconned speech on C-span. So do a google search, or better yet, check out the Ron Paul Library online and read his essays and speeches so you get your information right from the source, no possibility of bias. His books are pretty high on the charts over at amazon too if you got $15
Ron Paul has 5% in the polls.Enough said.
Sorry that last post was to ROX not american way
hurray freedom
Rox
Ron Paul is right on the imperial US presence in Iraq.
And NOTHING else.
It may be though that he will be enough to sink any of the other con nominees.
Might not be 5% in the polls if his name was actually mentioned in all of them. Face it, the campaign is for real and I hate to be the one to tell you this, but he’s the only republican on the stage that can beat Hillary Clinton.She sounds just like a Neocon, until you get to the socialized medicine. If you are interested in freedom of choice, restoration of all our civil liberties and a return to following the constitution with a small government that doesn’t distort the market with subsidies, that doesn’t run into endless wars with Nations who don’t attack us and a return to the rule of law and protecting our borders, then you want to look real hard at Dr. Ron Paul.
Rox asks:”What’s his stand on domestic issues? SS? Universal Health Care? Taxes?”
First, all of the following are to be paid for by bringing all our soldiers home. Not just from Iraq, but S. Korea, Germany, Europe, Iceland, Saudi Arabia, and the other 138 countries where we have troops permanently stationed. Bring our navy back to patrol our own shores, etc.
*Note: this is not counting any reductions in the size of the military, just redeployment savings*
SS:
- Continue payments to those that want to stay in the system.
- Let younger workers out of it (if they want) so they can save their own money for their own retirement.
Universal Health Care:
-For ending HMOs and Insurance Companies’ preferred tax status, which will bring down the cost, and raise the level of service, just like in any free market.
-Against any national health service like they have in UK or Canada.
-For everyone having access to medical services equally, just like everyone has access to a resturant.
-He never took Medicare as a doctor, instead treating patients for free. Many Doctors do pro-bono work, just like many lawyers do.
Taxes:- Reduce Government spending back to F.Y. 2000 spending levels.
- Use the savings to wipe out the need for personal income tax. No more IRS in *your* life. This is personal income tax only.
Taxes would still be paid by corporations; all customs, duties, imposts, excise taxes, alcohol taxes, etc. will still be in place. The main requirement on these kinds of taxes is that they be uniform, not having different rates for different people.
Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution gives Congress lots of legitimate taxing authority. Paul is a champion of the Constitutional, so anything authorized by Art. I Sec. 8 is not going to be automatically vetoed.
Hope this helps.
One of the great things about Ron Paul is that he endorses — in fact he wrote a book about it — a return to the gold standard.
Using gold as money takes control of money away from politicians on both right and left, who use their control of fiat money as a way to increase income to government at the cost of everyone else.
Then there’s the legalization of drugs, which Ron Paul supports. Almost overnight this would end the carnage in our cities, as it would no longer be very profitable to be a drug dealer.
Also he supports free trade, rather than managed trade. As a very smart man once said “You don’t need a treaty to have free trade.”
Kevin, thank you for the information.
Nathan, thank you for the link. I’ll go there and do some reading.
Can I see a show of hands of those who truly believe Ron Paul will get the Republican nomination?
If he doesn’t, how many believe he would try a 3rd party run?
Ron paul can no longer be called a “long shot” candidate. He has clearly surpassed John McCain and is now a “top tier” candidate.
Ron Paul dominates in Straw Polls, Debate Polls, Fundraising, Web Traffic and Grass Roots Networking. I have created a website to support this statement.
Please visit http://www.thecaseforronpaul.com and judge for yourself.
Israel might label Ron Paul a terrorist.
Fits.
The 5% he has in the national polls is much les imporatnt than what he can do in the early primary states. That is the advantage of the system – a newcomer can make a splash in a couple of small states and be thrust onto the national scene.
So, how is he going to do in Iowa and NH?
Ron Paul is the only candidate running that puts America first.
That may be reason enough to put him into the presidency.
Would Ron Paul damage America the way in which it has been damaged?
It’s time for those who love America to start running it.
http://thecaseforronpaul.com/default.aspx
In a way Ron Paul reminds me of John Dean. It will be interesting to see how this plays out; especially against an incredibly weak GOP field.
OOPS! HOWARD Dean.
> Ron paul can no longer be called a “long shot” candidate.
Perhaps not, but (writing from Texas here), the man does not demonstrate much skill at building consensus. Like it or not, consensus is how most real accomplishment and useful progress in Washington gets done. I like many of RP’s ideas, but unless he makes a serious change in his rhetoric and methods, I think a vote for him is a vote for Hillary (IOW, he’d “Perot” the Republican vote.)
Ron Paul 4 prez. I demand the media to start giving Paul more coverage, this is ludicrous, he’s one of the most popular canidates, and the major news media stations act like he dosen’t even exist.
Ron Paul’s Straw Poll ResultsUpdated on November 2, 2007 \l “” \l “”South Sound Ronald Reagan Republican Club, Tacoma, WA 11/01/2007 1 37.7%Springfield Metropolitan Republican Club, Springfield, MO 11/01/2007 1 77.3%
Laramie County GOP Straw Poll, Cheyenne, WY 10/28/2007 1 TBD
Values Voter Straw Poll, Washington, DC 10/20/2007 3 15.0%
Conservative Leadership Conference, Reno, Nevada 10/13/2007 1 33.0%Jefferson County, Alabama Straw Poll 10/13/2007 1 57.8%Washington State Republican Party Fall Dinner Straw Poll 10/11/2007 4 12.2%
Tulsa State Fair, Oklahoma 10/07/2007 1 41.5%Oregon Straw Poll- Portland, Oregon 10/06/2007 1 67.0%Gwinnett County GOP, Atlanta, Georgia 9/30/2007 1 36.2%CWA New Jersey GOP Straw Poll 9/29/2007 1 77.0%South Sound Ronald Reagan Republican Club, Tacoma, WA 9/26/2007 1 35.0%Mackinac Island – Michigan Republican Leadership Conference 9/23/2007 3 10.8%Oklahoma County GOP Straw Poll 9/23/2007 3 11.0%
Palmetto Family Council Straw Poll 9/20/2007 2 33.0%
Values Voters Presidential Debate Poll 9/17/2007 2 13.0%Manchester, NH Straw Poll 9/16/2007 1 65.0%South Dakota Straw Poll 9/03/2007 6 8.0%Maryland Straw Poll 9/03/2007 1 27.3%Texas Straw Poll 9/01/2007 3 16.7%Allegheny County, Pennsylvania 8/26/2007 1 45.2%DeKalb County, Georgia Straw Poll 8/25/2007 1 24.0%HRCC (Minnesota) 8/22/2007 3 16.0%
Ronald Reagan Club (Washington) 8/21/2007 1 28.0%
West Alabama 8/18/2007 1 81.2%
Strafford County, NH 8/18/2007 1 72.2%
West Lafayette, Indiana 8/18/2007 4 11.7%
Illinois State Fair 8/17/2007 3 18.9%
Students for Life of America 8/16/2007 4 9.0%
Western Montana Fair 8/15/2007 6 4.0%
Gaston County, NC 8/14/2007 1 36.6%
Ames, Iowa 8/11/2007 5 9.1%
National Federation of Republican Assemblies (NFRA), St. Louis, MO 8/06/2007 3 14.0%
FreedomWorks Straw Poll 8/03/2007 1 56.0%Georgetown County, SC 7/28/2007 2 17.9%
New Hampshire Taxpayers 7/07/2007 1 65.3%
Cobb County, GA 7/04/2007 2 17.0%
California Republican Assembly 7/01/2007 4 12.0%
National Taxpayers Union 6/16/2007 2 16.7%
Utah GOP convention 6/08/2007 2 5.4%
“https://www.rapiddonor.com/OhioGop/StrawPoll.aspx”"/snippets/37/ron-paul-straw-poll-results/”
Ron Paul’s Head-to-Head Records (Win-Lose-Tie):
Ron Paul v. Rudy Giuliani 33-5-0Ron Paul v. Mitt Romney 25-13-0Ron Paul v. Fred Thompson 23-14-0Ron Paul v. John McCain 34-3-0Ron Paul v. Mike Huckabee 31-5-1Ron Paul v. Sam Brownback 34-2-1Ron Paul v. Tom Tancredo 35-1-0Ron Paul v. Duncan Hunter 34-2-0
Until Dr. Paul I had little thought there would be a Republican candidate whom I could support and vote for. I have found the others lacking and more of the same, on both side of the election it is the same Republican or Democrat.
Paul stands for small government, lower taxes, less government intrusion into the citizens lives, fiscal responsibility. And he is called a wacko, a nut, a oddball, such is the country we live in? When someone who talks of such things is called weird? Pardon the clique but “Toto we are not in Kansas anymore!”.
Meanwhile, Fred Thompson tries a new approach:
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/21156.html
Thompson plays his country-music card
I guess he figures fluff and entertainment are more important than issues.
“(IOW, he’d “Perot” the Republican vote.)”
Actually, as a third party, he might do the opposite. By splitting the anti-war vote he could actually help a pro-war Republican. Just like in 1992 when an anti-incumbent third party split the anti-incumbent vote and helped the incumbent (although the incumbent lost anyway)
Actually Dr Paul has run as a third party candidate before got a whole percent of the vote.
Ron Paul is not about a single issue.
Ron Paul is about saving America.
Ron Paul will wipe away the government which no longer serves us.
The entire United States is at stake.
Ron Paul is right about Iraq.
And nothing else. Well in general US interventionalism maybe.
Know what I notice?
Ron Paul is to the GOP sorta like Dennis Kucinich is to the Democrats.
But Democrats don’t treat Dennis Kucinich like crap and a pestilence as the GOP does Paul.
Kinda illustrative that.
That said. I am VERY disappointed in Democrats this evening.
Dennis Kucinich moved to impeach that rat bastard Cheney today. The dems didn’t back him.
SOME in my party are so spineless…
The thing I find interesting about Ron Paul is because he wonders down the middle of the road on many issues, besides the war, he might be able to bring non-partisanship back to congress. Think about it.
It sure would be better than what we have now by any metrics standard.
But then again, it sure would be a hoot to watch the neos squirm under Hillary’s skirt.
Dear “Warmachine” and “WhiteElephant” — really great posts! Thanks!
Dear “Warmachine” and “WhiteElephant” — really great posts! Thanks!
You’re welcome, L.Step. What the propagandized NeoCons don’t want to hear is that Dr.Paul has motivated thousands to change their party affiliations and these aren’t the people answering the dated polling practice of calling land lines.Change is coming!
Ron Paul is the only choice.
1. He has never voted to raise taxes.
2. He has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
3. He voted against the Patriot Act.
4. He voted against the Iraq War.
5. He never votes for legislation unless the proposed measure is expressly authorized by the Constitution.
6. He is campaigning to stop federal agencies and special interests from driving property owners from their homes.
7. He believes that imposing tax on Social Security benefits is unfair and illogical.
8. He believes that it is unconstitutional to pay taxes on our income, that our forefathers never intended private citizens’ income to be taxable, and seeks to completely eliminate the Internal Revenue Service (IRS).
9. He has a six-point plan for border security and immigration reform, although he believes we make illegal immigrants the scapegoat through a system we’ve designed to be incoherent and unjust.
10. He acknowledges that “the biggest threat to our privacy is the government.”
This may come as a surprise to many of you, but in an election between Ron Paul and Hillary, I would certainly be supporting Paul.
While there may be a few of his views that are more extreme than I would like, overall, I can get behind his policy ideals.
New York Times
Ron Paul Wins!
That’s the headline today after the first New York State Republican Straw Poll.
Clearly, after raking in a record amount of money the other day, Mr. Paul is on a roll. He seems to have out-organized his fellow Republicans — on Rudy Giuliani’s home turf.
The New York State straw poll was conducted Tuesday at the Metropolitan Republican Club in New York City.The results: Mr. Paul, 26 votes; Mr. Giuliani, 21; Mitt Romney, 6; John McCain, 4; Mike Huckabee, 2; Duncan Hunter, 1; Tom Tancredo, 0.It is not clear why no votes were measured for Fred Thompson.
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/11/07/ronpaul/