What kind of dogs do you own/like.

I know its a little late, but I just noticed you gave my boy a little cover up thread.

Thanks.

In the grand scheme of the BLOGusphere, I owe ya one. Let me know when ya need some cover,

Hank

Thanks for your post. I know Nathan wouldn’t shoot anyone over a dog. I wouldn’t either. If someone broke into my house and shot my dog. . .

I would, have no problem shooting a dangerous dog that threatened me or mine.

I missed you last Monday night, I thought I might see you at the Diamond W.

No big deal.

If I see a dog running wild, and I believe it might be a threat to me or anyone else, I might shoot it.

I do not feel threatened by Nathans post. He is showing his affection for his dogs. I understand.

However, the immediate threat of the dog in front of me will be more important than figuring out if Nathan owns the dog.

I will not search out Nathans dog, just so that I can shoot it.

By the way, I live just off of South Rock Road. Cherry Creek area. Divored, trying to stay close to the kids.

One pit bull attack was very close by, it would take me or my kids a 3 minutes to walk there.

Sorry if emotion got the best of me, but I still stand by what I said: Dog lovers must understand that people are more important than dogs.If I am allowed to use deadly force against a person who threatens me, especially on my own property, I can certainly use deadly force against a dog.It would seem that most people who love large dogs, on this thread, also own guns or have a military background.

Nathan and Hank, please understand, I have nothing but contempt for anyone that would harm a dog with no reason.

However, those who feel threated by a dog, especially a dog on their own property, have a right to self defense, a right you folks cherish and protect and defend when it comes to shooting threatening people, instead of shooting threatening dogs.

Nathan, I took no threat from your post.

We understand each other.

Your dog bites my kid, I shoot your dog.

You shoot me.

OK

Even trade.

LOL

(Been awhile since the shooting range, for me, but I might not just sit there and take it like the bullseyes in target practice.)

Anyway, I understand how Marines talk.

My point is that dogowners need to take some responsibilty.

My dogs would never have hurt anyone, but if one had gotten shot, because someone was affraid of it, I think I would have understood.

That is what I meant.

I still say that my prefered large dog breed, the Mastiff, is very gentle, in most casses.

ANY dog can be trained to be hostile.

Those who are deliberately cruel to animals, in any way, should be punished.

However, I remember awhile back, a kid, a boy, was stealing gasoline out of a neighbors car. The neighbor shot him. I think that the man doing the shooting was out of line. However, that man won in court. He claimed that he felt threatened.

Large dogs scare people.

Yes, my large dogs dig get loose a few times. The worst they ever did was pop a basketball when one picked it up with his mouth.

However, I accept the responsiblity: If you are affraid of any animal, running wild, you have the right to kill that animal.

To quote George Carlin, “People pet dogs; cats pet themselves on people.”
According to my cat, people were bred up from apes to have opposable thumbs and run can openers.

Yeah, fighting other dogs. Not biting people. Any fighting dog that showed human aggressive behavior was useless and culled.

21-4004. Criminal defamation. (a) Criminal defamation is communicating to a person orally, in writing, or by any other means, information, knowing the information to be false and with actual malice, tending to expose another living person to public hatred, contempt or ridicule; tending to deprive such person of the benefits of public confidence and social acceptance; or tending to degrade and vilify the memory of one who is dead and to scandalize or provoke surviving relatives and friends.

(b) In all prosecutions under this section the truth of the information communicated shall be admitted as evidence. It shall be a defense to a charge of criminal defamation if it is found that such matter was true.

(c) Criminal defamation is a class A nonperson misdemeanor.

History: L. 1969, ch. 180, § 21-4004; L. 1992, ch. 239, § 187; L. 1993, ch. 291, § 135; L. 1995, ch. 251, § 14; July 1.

Was the kid’s name “Nathan?”

I used to have a friend who owned one of the friendliest German Shepards I’ve ever known. One day a neighborhood kid climbed the fence, went after the dog with a baseball bat and the dog defended himself. Of course it was the dog who was put down instead of the kid who deserved it.

From the American Kennel Club

CANINE LEGISLATION POSITION STATEMENT

“DANGEROUS DOG” CONTROL LEGISLATION.

The American Kennel Club supports reasonable, enforceable, non-discriminatory laws to govern the ownership of dogs. The AKC believes that dog owners should be responsible for their dogs. We support laws that: establish a fair process by which specific dogs are identified as “dangerous” based on stated, measurable actions; impose appropriate penalties on irresponsible owners; and establish a well-defined method for dealing with dogs proven to be dangerous. We believe that, if necessary, dogs proven to be “dangerous” may need to be humanely destroyed. The American Kennel Club strongly opposes any legislation that determines a dog to be “dangerous” based on specific breeds or phenotypic classes of dogs.

The AKC has a legal department that will help communities write effective “dangerous dog” legislation. Legislation that is based on tried ant true legislation that has worked in many other communities.

They will review proposed legislation and make recommendations to make it more effective and enforceable.

That being said, I don’t love pit bulls and dangerous dogs. The changes I proposed to the city council would have made the law more severe and more effective than the breed specific legislation they were considering.

Not one major national canine organization is for breed specific legislation, not one. They don’t think that breed specific legislation is effective in protecting the community from dangerous dogs. Even the CDC is against breed specific legislation.

The American Humane Association, The American Veterinary Medical Association, The National Animal Control Association to name a few. All oppose breed specific legislation because it has proven to be ineffective.

All of these organizations have credibility because of their experience and because of their work in the communities to educate and protect the public.

The Wichita Kennel Club has been active in Wichita for over 75 years. We do a lot more than just put on a dog show every year.

I personally have been to every recreation center in the city putting on a demonstration for the AKC Canine Ambassador program. I have taken my Bearded Collie that was therapy dog and educated the children on the responsibility of dog ownership and care. I have taught them how to act around strange dogs.

Every school in the city has books and educational material in their libraries donated by the WKC and the AKC. I am available to put on programs for schools and I do several every year.

I am willing to meet with anyone and explain exactly why we fought against and will continue to fight against breed specific legislation. Fortunately we were able to bring sanity into the political discussion long enough to convince the counsel members it was poor legislation. Unfortunately they didn’t pass a low that we thought was tough enough.

We’re still working and we welcome informed debate. When emotional bias is removed from the debate we win with our facts every time.

Good night all.

You are such a wonderful example of Christianity, except for your disregard of the 8th comandment.

Samson poops in her yard, her husband told me it was OK. Samson also knows where all the cat food is in the neighborhood. He eats Mary’s cat’s food when ever he can.

It gives him the shits so I guess we’re even on some sort of scale.

Mary’s cats poop in her neighbor’s yard and they don’t always bury it. Once when I was talking to her neighbor Boo Bear rolled in cat shit. I spent the next hour shampooing, drying and brushing Boo Bear out.

I like Mary’s cats. Samson likes Mary’s cat’s food. Boo Bear has a annoying connection with Mary’s cats also.—–
sigh…

Can’t tell the cons without a program and a psych ward….

While I don’t see Nathan’s earlier as a direct threat, it IS disturbing in light of some posts Hank has made.

“My guns are everywhere…etc”

I should go look for that one.