A whopping 64 percent of Americans disapprove of how George W. Bush is doing his job, according to a new Gallup Poll. But it gets even worse. A record 50 percent of the public “strongly disapprove.†That’s the highest rate since Gallup began asking this poll question more than 30 years ago. Richard Nixon had the previous high of 48 percent strong disapproval during the height of the Watergate scandal.
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i always thought nixon was just kinda underhanded and unable to repent in public to save himself.
i don’t know what to think about bush.is he evil to the core.a little boy who wanted to finish the job in iraq that his daddy didn’t complete so daddy would respect him.
he really goofed up the region instead. does daddy have less respect for the little silly boy after this total mistake that has killed and wounded 40,000 american kids.
hey george, your dad was right.
George W. Bush–
The man who lied us into a war without end.
Sent the national debt skyrocketing.
Created fewer new jobs since Hoover.
Grew the amount of government spending by 33 percent.
Helped gasoline prices triple.
Turned the entire world against us.
Gee . . . what’s not to like?
Oh, yeah.
If you invested in the Dow in Jan 2001, you’d now be 23 percent richer over SEVEN YEARS.
That’s less than 4 percent a year, or worse than a bank CD.
The Nixon legacy for the Republic Party is when he said, “If the President does it, it’s not a crime.”
Nixon-ites such as Cheney, Rumsfeld and assorted GOP aparatchiks have demonstrated their utter contempt for the Constitution of the United States of America for only on purpose: to divert taxpayers’ money to their corporate benefactors.
The first Republic Party president, Abraham Lincoln, really believed in government of, by, and for the *people,* not the corporationhs.
Wonder what he’d think of today’s Republic Party.
Today, Lincoln would be a Democrat.
He’d probably get swift-boated by some lying ass for his service in the Black Hawk War.
Hey, I didn’t get in on that poll. Lower Bush another point -51% don’t like how he performs and really doesn’t trust him. Just like Nixon lost the American trust–so did Bush.
Too bad about Nixon and Watergate. I still say he’s not guilty of anything that others didn’t do. He just got caught.
Nixon did some good things. He started reapproachment with China. The alternative was war. He also started what became beginning of the end of the Vietnam war. And he had the good grace to step down when the time came.
This is in the same line of walking around telling people that the sun is up at ten O Clock in the morning.
I may accuse the majority of Americans of being intentional ignorant of what is happening in Washington and the country. But this has been going on long enough there just seems no point in reporting the approval/disapproval ratings of President G.W. Bush. That horse is DEAD, it does not matter how dead one person or another thinks it dead. Whether you want to give it sugar cubes or the whip, that horse is dead!Please report something that will help fix this country, that will help end this partisan split and remind Americans that WE ARE ALL AMERICAN. The enemy is AL-QAEDA AND THE NEOCONSERVATIVES, not the Republicans or the Democrats. The first two wish to end this country, the second two are the American people.
ah needz tooths out marc mah werds
panes fer getttn wer mah ash r
If you hover your cursor over the pic, you see that the name for the pic is “Bushsad”.
I don’t think he is sad. Indeed in interviews he repeatedly reveals that he is gonna do what he wants to do and gives not a care as to how he is judged.Change the file name of that pic to Bushcornered. More fitting.
If you invested in the Dow in Jan 2001, you’d now be 23 percent richer over SEVEN YEARS.
That’s less than 4 percent a year, or worse than a bank CD.
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You mean investing all your money in the market around the high point of the dot com bubble? That must have hurt. But blaming the president? Tsk, tsk…
Bushsad? No, Bushbored; that’s been his problem all along. He’s bored with the presidency just like every other toy he’s been given, especially since congress finally overrode his veto.The real problem facing this country is what’s next? After 8yrs of poor little rich kid, we need a truly great president to save us now, and politics has become so vicious that only the corrupt, power-hungry politicians would consider enduring the firestorm we call a campaign. No decent person would subject himself, his family and friends to a year and a half of swiftboating and sniping.
Nixon was a great president compared to this a-hole.
Nixon at least had some redeeming attributes. Bush has none. ZERO.
Bush thinks he is doing what God is telling him to do and the secular Israelis are playing him for a fool.
The “Patriot Act” has made the United States into a “Kingdom” and the all powerful “King” can make anyone disappear.
The Israelis own us.
They don’t own Ron Paul.
Agreed, Jed.
I have a feeling that’s why Gore isn’t running.
The Repukes only do one thing: slime, demean and ridicule their opponents.
But they do it extremely well.
Hillary MIGHT be on the ballot, next November.What are her “disapproval” ratings?
George Bush will NOT be on the ballot.
What are his “disapproval” ratings?
Pretty much the SAME for both of them:
http://www.examiner.com/a-892056~Hillary_Clinton_struggles_with_high_disapproval_ratings.html
http://www.hillaryproject.com/index.php?/en/story-details/hillary_clinton_struggles_with_high_disapproval_ratings/
Hillary actually at 49% disapproval ratings:
http://www.hillaryproject.com/index.php?/en/story-details/can_hillary_win_the_presidency_with_a_49_unapproval_rating
CapnInvesting directly in the DOW stock index does NOT account for dividends on that stock.
Stock dividends are, roughly, one half of Dow stock profit.
I have not checked your calculations, but you must, in fairness, double anything that you came up with, if you did not account for dividends.
Also, after tax, dividend interest and capital gains receive more favorable treatment than does a bank CD.
And, you made your calculation after a bad week in the market.
Figures don’t like but —
Liars figure!
I think there’s the possibility we’ve had some really bad people in our country’s highest office and we hear more about what goes on today than before.
Think about it, do you know a single person who would choose to run? Doesn’t the very fact that they run tell you something less than desirable about the person?
That said. This president is the very worst, the most incompetent, in my opinion not even sane. And, I think we hear less about him than we should be hearing. He should be locked away in a mental hospital where he can’t hurt anyone else.
CapnOne other thing:
What were CD rates 7 years ago?
It is not fair to compare current rates of CD’s with a different type of investment, made 7 years ago.
Here is a Credit Union CD rate history, picked at random:
http://www.epbecu.org/cdhist.htm
As you can see, 4% was not a bad rate, 7 years ago. Credit Unions often pay even more than Banks.
I would add that, right after 9-11, interest rates at many institutions went even lower.
linda
“Mental Hospital” — so those you don’t like, politically, are insane?
Gosh, the Soviets thought exactly the same way.
Gulag psycho wards, here we come!
No, Paul. There are many I disagree with who seem sane, this president doesn’t seem sane.
But blaming the president? Tsk, tsk…Posted by: outlander
Gulag psycho wards, here we come!Posted by: Econ101
face itpeople like you don’t deserve to live in a free country.
freedom is lost on people who, when faced with a crisis never before seen in our country, choose to mutter about how silly the person who asks… why can’t we do better.
Nixon’s big fault was paranoia Bush’s is stupidity.
Let’s see, how many Americans were polled and where was the Poll done.
From the Gallup Pages:
“The telephone survey of 1,024 adults was conducted last Friday through Sunday.
Meanwhile, ABC News relates today, “Recent reports of fewer casualties in Iraq haven’t altered most Americans’ perceptions of the war: Fifty-nine percent still don’t think the United States is making significant progress restoring civil order there, and a record six in 10 want the level of U.S. forces reduced.
“Those results in the latest ABC News/Washington Post poll seem to reflect a continued hardening of attitudes on Iraq. Views on progress are unchanged from early September, and they haven’t been positive since December 2005, shortly after the Iraqi elections.”
Wow! The population of the United States as dwindled down to just over 2000 people according to Gallup Pollsters!
Of course, the MSM bolstered those results in those non-bias media areas such as ABC News and Washington Post.
Next Gallup survey will be of Kansans in Manhattan (Kansas State) to determine which football team would best represent Kansas in the bowl games.
Yeah, uh huh uh huh…
WW3
This video is about Bush offering Israel World War III on Israeli TV
All the Israelis need to do is say that they found a missile with an Atomic Warhead, which they tracked from Iran, and bingo….WW III
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/922051.html
Check it out.
Ed
Iran SAYS that they want to destroy Israel.
So, Ed, is it your position that Israel has no right, whatsoever, to prevent their own destruction?
Paul, if Iran wants to destroy Israel then why did they seek a peace treaty with the country?
Doug
Tyrhants use the “treaty” ploy to buy time.
All tyrants, throughout history, have seduced the gullible with the offer of a treaty, only to continue doing what they want.
There is no reason to trust the current leaders of Iran.
There was no, REAL offer on the table for Israel to consider.
How do you sign a treaty with a country that says things like this:
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2005/10/26/204226.shtml
Paul, what time were they buying? You haven’t answered the question you just made unsupported claims.
You must be getting desperate if you have to cite Newsmax which isn’t a news organization.
Hey Paul, which country was fighting the Taliban before America invaded Afghanistan? Oops, that would be Iran, fighting the terrorists.
When was the last time Iran invaded a country? You’ll have to go back a couple hundred years.
Do you have anything other than BS to promote about Iran? You are as clueless about that country as you are America.
Evidently the German Chancellor agrees with Bush about the Iran situation.
Perhaps the Libs have no comment about that?
Do you love Iran Doug?
You do know that you couldn’t put your atheistic views there and you would have to join the Islamic faith to get anywhere.
Would you like that Doug?
Can’t address the issues can you troll? Perhaps you, like Paul, should actually get educated about a subject before commenting on it.
Oh so Doug, you are an expert on Iran too now.
I just thought you were part of the “fat boy” guard patrol for Tiller’s clinic, my bad.
Kansas, it appears you have admitted that the subject matter is over your head again. Perhaps you’re hungry so let your mom breast feed you and give you a nap so you won’t be so grumpy. I don’t know why conservatives have to throw temper tantrums all the time. I guess it’s just because you children haven’t grown up yet.
Ed
Iran SAYS that they want to destroy Israel.
So, Ed, is it your position that Israel has no right, whatsoever, to prevent their own destruction?
Posted by: Econ101 | November 11, 2007 at 01:34 PM
First…..
The translation from Farsi to English is incorrect, but you already know that.
“Wiped from the Map” should have read: “Moved to a different location.”
Iran has agreed to the “Two-State” solution @ the Green-line with a shared Jerusalem as a Palestine and Israel Capital.
But you already know that as well.
Stop playing it “small,” OK?
“Wiped from the Map” should have read: “Moved to a different location.”
Yeah right Ed, sort of like the Farsi was mis translated about the Holocaust too?
DougTake shots at my links all you want.As usual, you have not attempted to refute the content of the link.You never can, can you?Therefore, Doug, since you hate all of my links, but can never prove that the content of the links is wrong:
Perhaps YOU are wrong?
“A Gallup Poll released this week showed that 64 percent of Americans disapprove of how the Decider is doing his job. That sounds bad enough — nearly two-thirds of the country thinks its leader is incompetent.”
Earth to Paul – 64% is greater than the 49-54% claimed by your “HillaryProject.” The 50% in the lead article above is those who STRONGLY disapprove.
Doug never does Econ101. He just calls people stupid, ignorant or whatever, then runs away to his hidey hole.
Paul, I’m expected to respond to a mistranslation? How about you get your facts straight and cut the lies out of your statements?
Now I’ll ask you a third time, how can a country that wants a peace treaty with Israel also want to destroy the country?
DougGet a single person, with a Doctorate in political science, and a knowledge of both Arabic and Farsi, to agree with all of your posts on this thread.
And get that same person to agree with the anti-semite Ed (your friend?) that Iran has NOT called for the destruction of Israel.
I will owe you $100.00
Deal?
Still can’t answer the question eh Paul?
Was this cleric “misquoted” as well:http://www.iran-press-service.com/articles_2001/dec_2001/rafsanjani_nuke_threats_141201.htm
Doug
Iran does not WANT a peace treaty with Israel.
Iran has NEVER asked for a peace treaty with Israel.
A demand for unilateral surrender is not an offer of a peace treaty.
Doug
Iran does not WANT a peace treaty with Israel.
Iran has NEVER asked for a peace treaty with Israel.
A demand for unilateral surrender is not an offer of a peace treaty.
I bet they can’t up with the Iran peace treaty either Econ. They are just blowing the usual Lib “smoke.”
Come on Libs, let’s see the correctly translated words of the Iranian peace treaty that the Israel has received officially.
Where is it? Post a link.
The problem Paul is that you are as uninformed as the troll Kansas:
http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=33348
It wouldn’t hurt to stay informed on the issues of discussion would it?
To those ignorant about the translation issue:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Israel
The Middle East Media Research Institute has those Ph.D’s you’re looking for Paul so you can send me that $100.
DougWhere is this Wiki “History of Iran/Israel Relations” wrong?
http://www.iran-press-service.com/articles_2001/dec_2001/rafsanjani_nuke_threats_141201.htm
I see no mention of a peace treaty, cease fire, or accord, offered by Iran, since the Iranian Revolution.
All I see is a demand that all Jews leave Israel and go to Europe.
(Ed, the racist anti semite’s solution. Are you an anti-Semite too, Doug??)
As Kansas asked:
POST YOUR TREATY, IF IT EXISTS!
The tax breaks, if any, that average families received under Bush’s tax cut program, have long ago been siphoned away at the pump. Yet, while traveling in California last weekend, Bush warned of even higher prices with vacation time approaching.
In a feeble attempt to appease the public this week, Bush said he will temporarily divert oil used to fill the Strategic Petroleum Reserve into the market to drive prices down. Apparently acknowledging the act as a do-nothing remedy, Bush made the comment, “Every little bit counts.”
I doubt that many people appreciated a snide remark like this coming from a guy who has never had to balance a checkbook, never had to worry about paying a heating bill or filling up the gas tank, but who now, through some perverse twist of fate, maintains a stranglehold on the nation’s purse strings.
Paul, if I just posted a link to an article about the peace treaty and you ignore it then what else am I left to do. I can’t help if it you refuse to be educated on a subject.
Leave
Those who actually have produced oil and energy help to keep prices down.
Those who refuse to let us drill for American oil drive prices up.
Those who refuse to allow us to build any new refineries drive prices up.
The Washington Post had an article on it last year also.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/17/AR2006061700727.html
Oh that’s cute Doug, a four year old proposal no where close in being called a treaty.
Did you forget that little Hezbollah incident in Lebanon? You know the political faction that Iran funds and equips to attack Israel.
As far as the translation goes on the official Iranian page…
They never change the story or the words right? I mean those dozens of stories I’ve heard on the news about Ahmahdinnerjod words not showing up on his official webpage must be false right.
What a good little propagandist for Iran you are Doug.
The BBC also reported on it:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6274147.stm
Yet you continue to claim that it doesn’t exist. What to do….
Hey guys, I presented the facts and you guys present nothing. It’s always amusing to get you guys to throw another childish temper tantrum every time you are made to look foolish. My work for the day is done. Cry in your Cheerios.
Doug
You posted a news link about an offer of a treaty.
Long before you posted your last link, I told you that Iran was only buying time with any offer.
Iran says it wants to destroy Israel.
Iran has refused to honor previous treaties.
Sorry, I am not ready for the appointment of “Doug, Secretary of State” or “Doug, Defender of Israel”.
If Iran has offered to “recognize” Israel, here is a big hint to Iran:
RECOGNIZE ISRAEL!
Instead, Iranian Clerics and Iranian leaders talk of using nuclear weapons against Israel.
Words are cheap.
“Peace in our time!” Chamberlin.
ECON 101
you are dead to me as long as you tout the bush line that has LONG since been proven wrong for AMERICA
Yeah Washington Post article Doug.
The U.S. has just scared the Iranians mindless because they rolled over Iraq in three weeks, in which the Iranians couldn’t even come close after 7 years of war.
Yeah, the Iranians were groveling and the U.S. wanted nothing to do with it.
Iran recognizing the existence of Israel as part of the proposal?
Please, Israel is already recognized by the U.N.
Your argument is falling apart Doug.
Is that all you got? A four year old worthless agreement in which Iran has shown no signs of ever honoring?
Please…
Refused to honor past treaties? You mean like the release of the American hostages? As usual Paul you are uninformed and continue to whine. Iran agreed to recognize Israel under the peace treaty.
Try getting an education Paul, your continued acts of stupidity are wearing thin.
ECON 101
you are dead to me as long as you tout the bush line that has LONG since been proven wrong for AMERICA
Posted by: Leave | November 11, 2007 at 02:28 PM
May you rest in peace Econ101. :D
We can go celebrate after your funeral. :)
How is my argument falling apart when I’m the only one presenting facts? Face it, the two of you have been proven wrong and you’ll continue to whine and bitch all day.
Well, I have a job I must get too so stay at home and make sure your mom changes your diaper.
Iran agreed to recognize Israel under the peace treaty.
Try getting an education Paul, your continued acts of stupidity are wearing thin.
Posted by: Doug | November 11, 2007 at 02:29 PM
As I’ve written before, Israel is already recognized by the world and the U.N.
Iran is doing them a big favor by recognizing a country that is already recognized?
Yeah okay…sounds like someone needs an education, but it isn’t econ101.
There goes Doug, running off to his hidey hole once again!
“Those who refuse to allow us to build any new refineries drive prices up.”
Posted by: Econ101 | November 11, 2007 at 02:24 PM
And the “those” is the oil companies, as I already explained here. Read the internal company memos.http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/no-rate-cut-gif.html#comment-89466250
Kansas,
Where are your Congressional and Justice Dept links proving your false claim about the levees?
cosmos where is your common sense in bringing up subject matter than has absolutely zero to do with this thread?
I already posted them a long, long time ago. One was from a Louisiana’s Congressman’s statement and the other was concerning the Lake Pon. projects on the other side of the lake which would have prevented the tidal surge even testing the levees.
Your loss, not mine cosmos that you didn’t read them at the time.
Kansas,
Thank you for again proving that you are a liar.
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=9104
Kansas,
Thank you for again proving that you are a liar.
Posted by: cosmos | November 11, 2007 at 02:51 PM
That URL among many others has been posted at least six times by me if not more.
Thank you cosmos for again proving that you are a liar.
“Look in the Congressional Record cosmos, not the Sierra Club. And look at Justice Department reports.”
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/05/dont_count_on_f.html#comment-70787370
And other posts.
Once again cosmos you interrupt a blog thread for your own personal agenda and ignore the linkhttp://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=9104I just gave you which shows both the Justice Department and Congress association.
You are a hateful, vengeance filled liar cosmos, who’s only role on this blog is to push your personal agenda and cause disruption of threads.
He is absolutely the worst President this country has ever had. Even worse than Herbert Hoover (another neo con favourite). There is very little this guy has done right (I did support his No Child Left Behind) and he is going to leave the country in such a mess that the next administration is going to have use the whole 4 years just cleaning up his messes. I will not ever figure out how the American people voted for this jackal. The only bright side is that this should pretty much get the GOP out of power for a very long time.
Kansas’ claims are not true. He added the last paragraph of fiction (lies) to his copy/paste post.http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/05/open_thread_25.html#comment-70812508
Note the Typekey profile = Republikhan.
“Kev” –
Y’know the incredible thing about the next president is that s/he will face just about the same disaster that eas left by the Nixon/Ford regime.
Nixon came to office promising a “secret plant to end the Vietnam War” and presided over more than half of the killed-in-action numbers… the second half of the Vietnam War memorial.
Jerry Ford was a caretaker president whose most important contribution to society was the “WIN” button.
Finally, a competent President was elected and, because he dealt with the mess that was left with him, Jimmy Carter is vilified by the Republic Party.
Hmm. Just what did Carter deal with that might affect us today? He started federal programs to develop energy resouces thad did not rely on oil. Ronald Reagan, of course, ended all those programs.
I wonder what thirty years of research and development into solar, wind, geothermal and other technologies might have come up with? Would Iranian oil be that big a deal had we not been sucked into the “Gipper’s” platitudes? (I mean, while he was doubling the national debt.)
Whomever is elected President of the United States of America in 2008 is doomed to inherit the worst presidency in the history of this republic. It ain’t gonna be easy and it ain’t gonna be fun.
I always said bush would be the one to beat out Hoover, for worst president ever, and he still has a year to go!If the damn Republicans hadn’t given bush a Republican congress he could never have accomplished the damage he’s caused to America. So, I blame the Repub. voters even more than bush.
Looks like this is fairly definitive on the Katrina situation:
“BOTTOM LINE: The project was 100 miles away from flood area and wouldn’t have made any difference with Katrina. Conservation groups never opposed raising the levees; just the heavy handed way in which the Corps was going to do it. And it wasn’t just conservation groups; even the LA Legislature had concerns.”
http://www.sierraclub.org/pressroom/releases/pr2005-09-13a.asp
Gotta throw in Andrew Johnson somewhere in that “Worst President Ever” category too!! Along with Nixon, Hoover, and now Bush… LOL
I think bush will beat all of them out for the title.
sugar, the issued I pointed out had nothing to do with 100 miles away nor the levees. It was the placements of gates into they bayous surrounding Lake Ponchetrane that would have prevented much of the tidal surge attacking the levee system. That was the portion that was killed by lawsuits.
You have been suckling the teat of cosmos too long to even appreciate the truth.
Accoding to Sierra Club, what you are talking about would have done little to help the situation!!
NOTE >>>
The other problem was a little-used canal known as the Mississippi River Gulf Outlet (MRGO) which basically funneled the water from the storm surge directly into the Lower Ninth Ward and St. Bernard Parrish. In fact, MRGO also contributed heavily to the flooding in New Orleans during Hurricane Betsy in 1965. The canal is currently used as a commercial shipping route but handles only handful of ships each week and costs the Army Corps of Engineers about $12 million to dredge and maintain each year. Local officials and engineers at LSU’s Hurricane Center have been sounding the alarm about the canal for years, but the few commercial interests that still use the controversial route have wielded their political clout to prevent the channel from being closed. Regardless, the canal does not even have simple floodgates to keep out the storm surge from the lake. (”Canal May Have Worsened City’s Flooding,” Washington Post, September 14, 2005)
http://www.sierraclub.org/pressroom/releases/pr2005-09-13a.asp
ALSO — It appears that the problems date back to at LEAST a 1965 hurricane… And so, it covers a number of different administrations, and Presidents, and a lot of over-looked, neglected problems that were never fixed.
It cant be blamed on BUSH, or on CLINTON for sure… The Corps of Engineers said in 1997, that the repairs needed would take approximately 30 years…
I suggest that both Kansas and Cosmos might cease and desist on the Katrina situation, and resume fighting about GW issues. LOL
Now, as others have mentioned before, DNFTT!! I am out of here for now!! Have a nice evening!!
The Sierra Club are not flood control engineers, they are environementalists. I doubt they would know the difference of one soil sample to the next.
Perhaps, but they can certainly read the reports issued from such places as the Corps itself, not to mention LSU laboratory and scientists..
BTW, many environmentalists are also scientists, and engineers!! Funny man!!
BTW, many environmentalists are also scientists, and engineers!! Funny man!!
Posted by: sugar | November 11, 2007 at 04:34 PM
Really? How about some sources.
Or did you just make that up.
Kansas, IF you are as smart as you THINK you are, you can easily find out that there are academic courses taught in nearly every university in the country in environmental sciences. Try just once to address the issues, and stop with your attacking things that arent even being addressed!!
Besides, “sources” are not a pre-requisite for commonly known FACTS!
So by your response and avoidance, you just made the statement below up then… didn’t you sugar?
BTW, many environmentalists are also scientists, and engineers!! Funny man!!
Posted by: sugar | November 11, 2007 at 04:34 PM
Civilians have ZERO idea what its really like. Walter Reed? I’ve been there. Its mold covered and they’re drastically understaffed. Prescriptions Line? It takes hours. Active Duty gets to go first, but there are usually hundreds of veterans waiting in line waiting. Veterans who gave their lives and some their sight, hearing, body for this country don’t get to get their pain medication in a timely period? What is wrong with this system. It’s not just Walter Reed, I’ve been to every military hospital in the DC area now, since we’re stationed at Andrews AFB. Malcolm Grow, Bolling, and Walter Reed. All are drastically understaffed and the prescription situation is the same. It takes weeks to get an appointment. They say to call just a couple days before the start of the month to fight for an appointment that month. What if you’re sick? Well you can try calling early in the morning but if its urgent make a trip to the ER where you get to wait with a bunch of other sick people for hours. My son, who is one, was bleeding from the head and we weren’t seen for 3 hours. 3 hours! You want to know what we see on a daily basis? Med buses medivac sick wounded soldiers from the flight line at andrews afb to walter reed. Those buses are generally filled and during the week I see at least 2 a day. AT LEAST! Thousands of men are coming home wounded and all we hear about are the dead. Yes, we need to honor the dead, but people need to know how many are hurt and what their care is like. I’ve seen those rooms at Walter Reed. We stayed in one. It looks like a time capsule. Metal beds, slates of metal as mirrors, bathrooms so old the pipes creak whenever you turn on the water, mold, grit. Its not clean. It doesn’t smell like other hospitals, that clean sanitized smell. It’s sick! It’s sick. For those veterans who need care after, and for us military families there are wonderful signs on the door of the family care offices. They read “one issue per appointment please”. That’s right. Those people who fight for this country and us families left behind can only bring up one issue per appointment. If more then one make another appointment which is IMPOSSIBLE to get. Our hospitals are out of date and our doctors are deployed. I see veterans every day at the commissary and the BX on the base where we live. I’ve seen men burned so badly they’re unrecognizable as human. I’ve seen men who recently found themselves blind. I’ve seen families whose husbands gave their lives who can’t get a doctors appointment for a sick child and sit in the ER for hours. It is not right. Sure, we get “free” health care, but look at the price. This is a disgrace. Please keep speaking out. We can’t have a voice or we risk the consequences. We need a voice. That man they call our president sits by and does nothing visiting privately funded hospitals. He gets to have all his appointments at National Naval Medical Center; which is REALLY nice, but impossible for the underlings to get into. I don’t think he waits months for an appointment, hours for prescriptions, can only talk about one issue per appointment, and gets medical care in these conditions. That’s whats wrong with this country.
Kansas, since you obviously have no argument to make to the LSU and Corps of Engineer sstudies, you attack my refusal to post some dumb f***k link to prove that environmentalists are scientists… Such a link is NOT necessary, any more than saying George Bush is President needs a link.
Besides, I dont see YOU posting any link that says environmentalists are NOT scientists…. AND, big guy, I already posted a link with the annotations on the LSU and Corps of Engineer studies. So, you DO have a link, IF you choose to read it, so dont ask me for any more than I have already posted!! You’re just trying to be disruptive, as usual!!
Does anybody know if the Chiefs beat Denver?? I had my obligatory Sunday afternoon nap somewhere in there!! LOL
Thanks!!
Now all of you silly willy commenters can explain why EUROPE found Iraqi WMDs and watched as Syria (Iraq’s neighbor) tested them in 2004.
Kansas,
It looks like Doug wont take me up on that $100 offer, —Maybe us SAIN people can go celebrate my “ulogy” at the Scotch?
Ummmm What is a “ulogy”???
Catherine, I think a claim like that needs some kind of credible source… British, or French, or German, or Italian??? Take your pick…
Kev
Hoover was like Nixon and LBJ on economic matters.
JFK Reagan and W are more accurately “neo cons” in economic matters.
The “neo” means NEW — nothing new about Hoover, is there?
euologySorry, watching WEEDS, made a mistake.
still got it wrong, lol
Wow quite the duo we’ve had posting through the day ALL day.
We’ve got on the government teat Kasas. And blog liar first order Paul econ.
Yup that would be about the qauality and character of those dregs of humanity who still support the worst world leader the world has ever known.
J R,
Plus we have Kansas claiming that the Sierra Club caused the Corps N.O. levees to fail in 2005, at BELOW design specs, because the Sierra Club did NOT file a lawsuit in 1977, against a different project that the Corps decided NOT to build.
Last update – 09:01 11/11/2007
Good news from Gaza
By Gideon Levy
tags: Hamas, West Bank, Gaza
The group of reservist paratroopers returned all astir: Hamas fought like an army. The comrades of Sergeant-Major (Res.) Ehud Efrati, who fell in a battle in Gaza about two weeks ago, told Amos Harel that “in all parameters, we are facing an army, not gangs.” The soldiers of the Israel Defense Forces were impressed by their enemy’s night vision equipment, the tactical space they kept between one another – and their pants even had elastic bands to make them fit snugly around their boots. This is good news from Gaza.
First, it is good that reservists were sent on this mission because “if these missions were left to the regular soldiers, no one on the home front would understand what’s happening in Gaza,” one of them said. Indeed, the time has come for the soldiers to speak out. But the news the soldiers brought is also encouraging on several other levels. According to their descriptions, a Palestinian Defense Force has emerged. Instead of a rabble of armed gangs, an orderly army is coalescing that is prepared to defend its land. If it makes do with a defensive deployment against Israeli incursions, we will again have no moral claim against them: Hamas is entitled to defend Gaza, just as the IDF is entitled to defend Israel.
The coalescence of an army also ensures that if Israel tries to reach an accord with the Hamas government – the one and only way to stop the firing of Qassams – there will be someone in Gaza to prevent the firing. An armed and organized address in the chaos of Gaza also means good news for Israel. But the respect the reservists felt for the way Hamas fought is liable to trickle down deeper. “The Palestinians never looked like this,” the surprised soldiers told Haaretz. Perhaps we will finally stop calling them “terrorists” and refer to them as “fighters.” A bit of respect for the Palestinians and, in particular, an end to our dehumanization of them is liable to mark the beginning of a new chapter.
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Furthermore, the fact an army has arisen in Gaza, if this assessment is correct, is liable to prevent another large-scale, ground-based military operation with its many casualties and futility. Perhaps the reservists’ reports will dissuade the defense minister from carrying out his plan to conquer Gaza and will motivate Israel to try, for the first time, a different approach with Hamas – negotiations. Only the recognition of Hamas’ strength is liable to persuade Israel to be cautious about another operation, and only its military buildup will make us understand the full stupidity of the boycott policy that was designed to weaken Hamas.
We have always acted this way. Without violent Palestinian resistance, life in occupying Israel is great and no one pays any attention to the need to end the occupation. No resistance – no Palestinians. No terrorism – no progress. If not for the Qassams, no one would give any thought to life in Gaza after the disengagement. Ours is a country that has been ready to make concessions only after blood is spilled. Since the interim accords following the Yom Kippur War and through the withdrawal from Lebanon and the disengagement, Israel has needed a relatively strong enemy to get its act together. If not for Hezbollah, we would still be in Lebanon; if not for Hamas, we would still be in Gaza.
Now the time has come for the next chapter: Did we think leaving Gaza and imprisoning it was enough for life in Israel to be hunky-dory? Hamas comes along and reminds us that this does not suffice. The West Bank is quiet in the meantime? Until an organized and strong resistance movement is revived there, we will not consider evacuating even one little outpost. We will conduct talks every two weeks with Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas, we will go to Annapolis, but we will not discuss, heaven forbid, the “core” issues there. And our terrific lives will continue, while in the West Bank the masses will crowd together at the checkpoints for hours, be subject to humiliation and risk their lives every time they go outside.
These words are not meant to encourage another wave of Palestinian terror. They are intended to try to motivate us, for the first time, to move beyond our usual habits and reach the conclusion – this time without bloodshed – that the occupation cannot continue forever. Perhaps the news about the elastic bands on the Hamas men’s pants will do it for us, and the next cycle of violence will be averted.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/922571.html
Yeah, wasn’t “kansas” leaving us?
I think he was worried about something or other?
There was a whole big production about it (him) the other day.
The wretch seems to have a compulsive need to make others angry with him WHILE he makes himself look bad and just generally causes problems.
Sound like any world leaders we know?
econ 101
I pasted this so you can get your rant up-to-date
Your Welcome…
Leave…it’s not much better in the private healthcare system either. I’ve waited in the ER after my mom had a stroke with her for almost 8 hours, and it takes days, sometimes more than a week to get my patient’s scripts filled if they have to be approved by a doctor, and it’s not at all unusual to have to wait several weeks or even several months to get an appointment with a doctor. The problems you talk about are all through the healthcare industry. If you have private insurance..then you also have the battle of getting them to pay claims and approve necessary procedures…that’s a other whole battle in itself.
Our entire system needs to be overhauled. We do have great healthcare in this country, if only we could have access to it and afford it.
Hey Cosmos, you miss the point. The Palestinians teach their kids that ALL of Israel belongs only to the Arabs, that all the Jews will soon be removed, and that Israel will no longer be “occupied” (i.e., even within the Green Line). The Palestinians still teach the LOVE of Hitler and Nazism, which we all can see you probably would join the Palestinians in saying, “Heil Hitler!” (as done many times in school activities).
To Chas. and all, you can check with several countries, like Germany and France and Belgium and others (YOU take your pick). Here are some articles to at least start on:
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/03/31/1080544556813.html?from=storyrhs
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5326544/
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/10/international/middleeast/10nati.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/07/politics/07NUKE.html
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,124576,00.html
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.aspx?GUID={80775633-E2D9-4B8A-ABCE-A330E4513D9D}
Have to register in archives for these articles:http://washingtontimes.com/national/20040816-011235-4438r.htm
http://daily.webshots.com/content/ap/current/h52393407.html
And just for “FUN”:http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A63785-2004May28?language=printer
http://portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/02/21/wlibya21.xml
Catherine
Where are you getting this from?
CatherineExactly!
Good grief, the Palestinians have kids watching cartoons that say “dont trust the jews” and worse, and Israel is supposed to trust them?
Thier “adult” political cartoons are no better:
http://honestreporting.com/articles/45884734/critiques/Offensive_Cartoons.asp
Cosmos, Haaretz is a magazine gone about far-left, liberal as you can get there, who still whitewash how Yassir Arafat gloated over killing several hundreds of innocent people, including Americans on US soil (as we saw in Illinois in the 1960s). Haaretz doesn’t mind that Arafat openly praised Hitler and the Nazi teachings. After all, they will hold hands and sing Kum-byah and love will all be in the air as the Palestinians continue their Love Hitler parades:http://blogs.thekansan.com/node/156
“Catherine, Where are you getting this from?”
Documents and other material a bunch of us have gathered since the early 1950s to show what was going on, since we knew that the United Nations was playing games with certain types of people.
EdThese are the cartoons your “peace loving” Moslems run in their newspapers:
http://www.adl.org/main_Arab_World/arab_media_portrayal_jews.htm
Catherine–
Arafat is dead.
Move on . . .
Re: Israel
I do not believe a nation has a right to exist in a specific location on the say so of ancient writings and lore.
Let Israel have a space in Europe or somewhere else. In basing this major aspect of our foreign policy myths and legends, we are little better than the Taliban.
Econ101 Inc.
You need to upgrade your reading, as those sites are awful or not on point.
Yeah, wasn’t “kansas” leaving us?
Posted by: J R | November 11, 2007 at 07:31 PM
By golly, you’re right, JR.
Kansas was so worried because cruel liberal bloggers had put posted his personal information and his car tires were SLASHED that he was never coming back.
Old Max and Nathan and Ksgrm begged him to stay and were outraged at the big, mean lib bloggers picking on Kansas.
Stop and think.
Isn’t it obvious that the “slashed tires” was another Kansas lie, and that’s why he’s still here posting as usual?
The police report comes out tomorrow. We’ll see how many reports of slashed tires are in it . . .
JR–
Hehehe, agreed!
Let’s move “the Jewish homeland” to Western Kansas!
They need the population, and it has desert like qualities.
Boy, you would hear them howl then, wouldn’t you?
JRYou are a radical.
Please name ONE member of Congress that agrees with you, IE: That the State if Israel should be “moved” to Europe?
Jimmy Carter is absolutely anti-Jewish and anti-Israel, but even the anti-semite Carter never said anything as stupid as what you just posted here.
Not to demean the Jewish people.
I DON’T mind offending zionists.
Israel is alot like “kansas”. The pester poster I mean.
Both seem absolutely determine to stay in a place where they are not wanted and causes trouble. It would be so much better if they found places they would be more accepted.
Though for the pester poster, I understand he is not wanted much of anywhere.
and, JR
Do you think we all get warm and fuzzy about you?
Kansas can post all he wants.
I dont always agree with him, he does not always agree with me.
However, everyone reading this Blog must agree:
The Blog does NOT belong to JR!
What is radical is asserting that a nation has a god given right to exist in a specific place.
Our native Americans were not given such consideration. None at all in fact.
Hey Catherine,
I didn’t make that post about Israel. The “Posted by” is at the end of each post.
I think there is fairly general agreement as to you Paul econ. And I’ll waste no further time with you.
NEWS FLASH! DEMOCRATS RUN AGAINST GEORGE BUSH FOR THE 3RD TIME!
George Bush is not running for President in 2008!
If you Dems have nothing to offer, then just attack Bush and make GEORGE W. BUSH the focal point of your campaign.
What? Oh Dems do have something to offer!
SOCIALISM! 2 Trillion in New Federal programs, proposed by Hillary Clinton!
Great plan. BUY the election with more promised Government handouts.
The Gimme, Gimme, Gimme crowd will eat that up, and Hilllary will win for sure!
Max hasn’t figured out that our economic system does not reward work, it rewards wealth.
That’s why he’ll work like a SOB all his life and die poorer than Michael Jackson’s grand-son.
And worse yet, he won’t see anything wrong with that.
“”"Jerry Ford was a caretaker president whose most important contribution to society was the “WIN” button.”"”
Ford did not accomplish much but on the other hand he did a decent job of trying to restore some degree of sanity to a country that had just been though 10 years of Hell with Veitnam, Watergate and racial strife. Ford could have easily aggravated the already bad situations but he didn’t.
Carter isn’t anti-semite, he is just in a position where he can tell it like it is, and he’s old enough that if he gets offed for it, he’s already lived a long virtuous life.We need more candidates with America’s interest at heart, before Isreals.The Idiot is ready to start WW3 over Israeli interest.
Israel exists where it did in Biblical days. They have every legal right to be where they are, and they have every right to exist.
“I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse” – Genesis 12:2-3
The Zionist show a Tribal way of thinking the same as Shiite, or Sunnis. You would think that after being Europeanized for centuries they would have moved past that.
And what other foreign and domestic policy would you have us base on ancient myth outlander?
Sorry, until he weighs in personally I do not recognize “God”as relevant as to world affairs. IF he exists, he seems to have a hands off approach the last couple thousand years. I think we should respect that.
JRWhile I agree that many of the various tribes were not treated fairly, the fact remains that the tribes, themselves, treated each other worse than we did.
Your view is nuts.
It is worse than radical.
No politician, in any district, could say what you have said on this thread and get elected to any post.
J.R. don’t pretend you didn’t know God commanded bush to strike Al-Quida, then for an encore commanded him to attack Iraq! The real reason for over 3000 dead troops, is it is a test of bush’s faith!
Um.. JR, did the UN sanction the creation of the modern Israel? Do they have the right to exist? Or should we base our foreign policy on the fact that the Arabs don’t like it.
Israel is our friend and ally in the region and deserves our unqualified support.
I contend that God has blessed our country for our support of Israel.
Carter IS an anti-Semite, of the Jew bashing variety:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/rosnerBlog.jhtml?itemNo=803755&contrassID=25&subContrassID=0&sbSubContrassID=1&listSrc=Y&art=1
Econ Paul.
You are meaning my reference earlier as to American natives, their religious beliefs and claims to holy land?
YUP they sorted it out for themselves.
They did NOT have an outside force.
If your suggestion is that the mideast should sort itself out?
We are
for the first time
in agreement!
“Israel is our friend and ally”
Yeah Outlander?
When and where?
Oh I give you I was young or not even born.
Were there Israeli troops in Korea or Viet Nam?
The first gulf war?
The second?
How many troops does Israel have in Iraq?
Ally? Uh huh.
One just ONE benefit of our slavish support for Israel against all the negatives that entails outlander.
I do not count the “blessings of God” as I do not see them.
67 years of slavish servitude support for Israel outlander.
How much is enough?
I see little change in problems for the US let alone the world.
How much does ‘God” demand?
When do we see some return on investment?
No JRI said that I agree that the American Indians got a raw deal, in many cases, from the White Man.
That does not mean that Israel should be abolished because Israel’s neighbors want to abolish Israel.
Two wrongs don’t make a right.
“Israel” is the hook they use to get the money.
They’re restarting an old deal with Germany to get a New 900 million in “reparations.”
JR
Israel sending troops to Afganistant or to Iraq would cause huge political problems for those governments.
There would be a backlash due to the hatred of Jews and the hatred of Israel among some of the population in those countries.
However, Israel does share intelligence on terrorists with the United States and, even more secretely, Israel shares intelligence with some Moslem countries.
Israel recently bombed a Nuke plant in Syria, that was being established by North Korea.
YES, Israel is our friend.
Iran was probably, also, involved in the Syrian Nuke plans.
There was no nuke plant in Syria because Israel lies about everything.
America was getting along just fine before the State of Israel was formed. So much for the ‘blessings’.
If one were to truly believe God Blesses America because of Israel, than logically our blessings would be in vast multiples were we all to convert to Judaism.
YES, Israel is our friend.
Posted by: Econ101 | November 12, 2007 at 11:26 AM
To our money.