State Sen. Donald Betts, D-Wichita, confirmed the rumors Friday about the next move in his young political life, challenging Rep. Todd Tiahrt, R-Goddard, for the 4th Congressional District seat. Betts plans to announce his candidacy today at Friends University, where not so long ago he was the first African-American student body president. Betts has been an effective state senator, making more of a mark than Democrats usually do in the heavily GOP Legislature. For one thing, he succeeded in putting Kansas on record as criminalizing racial profiling by law enforcement. But Democratic resistance may be futile against Tiahrt, who swept into office with the GOP revolution in 1994. While maintaining pristine conservative credentials, Tiahrt has become a master at delivering federal funding, a talent only enhanced by his assignment early this year as the ranking Republican on the House Appropriations Committee’s subcommittee on the interior, environment and related agencies.
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Look out, Todd! You’re going to have a real race this time!
“Tiahrt has become a master at delivering federal funding”
So he’s become a master at acquiring unnecessary pork barrel spending like that failed tanker deal? Or perhaps that $1 million to catch BTK which proved to be absolutely useless? Well he did provide those hundreds of thousands of dollars for a mansion.
Apparently a good candidate for the Eagle is one who can find ways to waste taxpayer money. In that case Tiahrt is your candidate because with the Republicans in charge the national debt has nearly doubled to $10 trillion.
Tiarht became unimportant when the Republicans lost their total control of Congress in 2006.
And I wonder if there are any personal scandal skeletons in Tiarht’s closet that has yet to rear their ugly heads?
No one rises to the ranks of Tiarht’s position within the Republican Party without stuffing a few skeletons in some pretty big closets.
Tiahrt does have some skeletons including the land deal in Wichita which cost Wichita taxpayers $2 million. Oops, I shouldn’t mention that, the Eagle has to report on OJ Simpson or American Idol or something.
Yeah,this is what Kansas needs, another left-wing, abortion-loving, criminal-coddling, anti-military radical in Congress. Don’t we already have that in Moore and Boyda? I guess Kansas wants to imitate Taxachusetts and Rhode Island.
Betts will give Tiahrt a run for his money, but will lose. Raj Goyle will finish the job and beat him in 2010.
Good for Betts. I’m going to be very active to help him get elected. I’ve had enough of Tosd Tiahrt whose spokesman once told me that I should move to another state if I wished to find representation in Congress.
Has a waiter ever been elected to Congress?
Is that the best you Todd-lovin’ Wingnuts got? Pretty sad. You’ll have to do better to defend Todd “throw the sick kids to the wolves” TiFahrt.
This should be a race that draws national attention.
Has a waiter ever been elected to Congress?
Posted by: Marlin Cumquat | October 02, 2007 at 07:46 AM
This is why Betts won’t get elected. Kansas is too full of Republican Racists.
Will the Eagle endorse him, now that the democrats have the majority, and he would thus be more powerful than Tihart? That was the papers’ line last time.
Sounds like Rhonda is trying AWFULLY hard to justify the WE’s endorsement of tankerless todd.
That’s their story at the WE and by god, they’re sticking TO it!
“Will the Eagle endorse him, now that the democrats have the majority, and he would thus be more powerful than Tihart?”
What do YOU think?
Time for Tankerless Todd to be retired. Then it will be interesting to see if he returns to Kansas or follows his employer to Chicago.
Does Betts have a job (outside of being a Senator) yet?
Last election, I asked the editors 31 days in a row for a thread here detailing what Toad knew about Mark Foley and when he knew it. No dice. I guess I will have to start sooner next time. I wonder if June would be early enough to get them to TRY and be objective as to Toad.
Donal Betts. His positions are?HIs bio?
HAW HAW HAW! Hadn’t yet seen this anti-Tiahrt site.
http://tiahrtfolly.blogspot.com/
WARNING: it contains a photoshopped and cropped porn picture that’s pretty damn funny.
littlejohn,
Do I detect a bit of deliberate GOP misspelling there in your post? Hmmmmm?
Littlejohn, he’s a black Democrat. That’s all the reason you need not to vote for him, especially the “black” part.
Being a waiter is colorless. Sounds like you are the racist.
But what do you expect from a bunch of left-wing socialist nut jobs? If you can’t respond to the question, throw the race card!!
Do I detect a bit of deliberate GOP misspelling there in your post? Hmmmmm?
Posted by: CF2K | October 02, 2007 at 09:44 AM
Littlejohn, he’s a black Democrat. That’s all the reason you need not to vote for him, especially the “black” part.
Posted by: Snuffy Smith | October 02, 2007 at 09:45 AM
CF2K-
No. Don;t be so paranoid. Good speller, lousy typist. Okay, maybe not always good speller, but always bad typist. I am not a big Tiahart fan. I know nothing about Betts, as he does not serve my district. So I asked. Shot at for doing so. Hmmmmm.
Snuffy Smith-I don;t know if you are being facetious or what. Stupid remark on your part, for whatever reason
Atleast we know who Betts stands with on the war.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyDOAmJYFFA
Let’s suppose Betts WAS a waiter. So what? What was Tankerless Todd before Congress? PORK-procurer for Boeing.
littlejohn,
Fair enough. In a world where the President and his GOP minions consistently refer to the Democratic Party as the “Democrat” Party (and where racist GOP trash like ones above lie and dissemble), I’m more apt to shoot first and ask questions later.
Betts’ occupation is “youth director.”
Here’s a little something to make the 28-percenters even MORE upset, hehe!:
http://www.workingassetsblog.com/2007/05/thank_you_senator_betts.html
Where do I sign up to help Betts!
I’ll do ANYTHING to get Tanker Todd out of Government and OUT OF GODDARD! I cant stand him associating himself with the city I love!
Betts’ occupation is “youth director.”
Here’s a little something to make the 28-percenters even MORE upset, hehe!:
http://www.workingassetsblog.com/2007/05/thank_you_senator_betts.html
Posted by: Rage | October 02, 2007 at 10:20 AM
Can;t get audio on this computer, so the link will have to wait. But what does “youth director” mean? Does he have a job somewhere? YMCA? BOYS and Girls club? A church somewhere?
Tony – please correct “Tanker Todd” to TankerLESS Todd!
maid
You are slanderous and libelous.
Yes, I know, you can say anything you want against a public official, as long as YOU believe it is true.
However, just because you don’t like someone is not a mature or responsible reason to assume corruption.
Back it up or shut up!
Snuffy Smith-I don;t know if you are being facetious or what. Stupid remark on your part, for whatever reason
Posted by: littlejohn | October 02, 2007 at 09:50 AM
Not really. You’re a Republican. Repubs don’t vote for black people except in rare instances.How many black Republicans are there in the House? Or in Congress for that matter?
Sorry Ben…
I forgot that the millions that Boeing spent on Todd only resulted in a few congressional investigations and no tankers…
JRI believe Vermond does have a socialist in Congress, he runs and wins as an independent.
I will help you pack your truck!
Betts is from my district. Met him a couple of times and we talked for a few minutes. Very nice young man – to talk to in person. He appears to come from a conservative background. However, he aligns himself with the most liberal of the Democratic Party.
He will make a formidable challenger if he gets the proper backing.
I will still vote for Tiarht though as he’s on a committee that is key to Wichita getting funds and access to a lot of programs. Seniority in the Congress is not everything, but it is reality and you don’t leave your anchor on the pier when you dock your boat.
“Being a waiter is colorless. Sounds like you are the racist.”
Yeah, riiiight!
Econ Paul. I’m not going. You can go. Maybe Toad will take you with him when he follows who he truly represents out of town.
Not really. You’re a Republican. Repubs don’t vote for black people except in rare instances.How many black Republicans are there in the House? Or in Congress for that matter?
Posted by: Snuffy Smith | October 02, 2007 at 10:34 AM
How many blacks (Republican or Democrat) have I had the opportunity to vote on? Doesn;t matter elsewhere. I don;t vote in thos districts or states. What they do is up to them. It’s called representative government. I don;t get to choose thier representatives and senators, they do. But again, how many blacks have I had the opportunity to vote on? Before tagging someone with your own rascist bs, better look at where you are throwing it. Some of us throw back.
VermontTyping trouble too, I guess!
Sorry Kansas…
I can not agree with you one bit… Yea, he gets us a few bucks here and there, but i would trade all of that for a representative who would actually represent our district, not his special interests…
Paul – she simply asked a question. Doesn’t rise anywhere close to the slander constantly thrown at Democrats by your side.
Perhaps Tony…
Did you read the story about the Gangs in todays and yesterday Eagle?
It was Congressman Tiarht that got the funding for that. I’m glad, because a lot of that stuff occurs where I live and am relieved that some of the Crips will be in jail now.
Kansas, so your only voting for Tiahrt because he can score federal pork, and government programs? How very conservative of you.
“Seniority in the Congress is not everything, but it is reality”
Valid point kansas BUT …
Being senior in the MINORITY party has a lot less power. And, since Tankerless Todd has consistently been very pertisan he will suffer even more than will Republicans who have shown a willingness to work in a bipartisan fashion.
Especislly if (a) we have a Democratic president and (b) Democrats increase their house majority.
Todd Who?
Todd Tiahrt brought JC Watts into Kansas several times, in his first Congressional run against Glickman, and thereafter.
JC Watts was a Black Congressman from OK.
Prior to running for Congress, JC Watts won a State Wide race in Oklahoma.
Todd Tiahrt is no racist.
The same can be said of the vast majority of Republicans.—–
Racial profiling?
Our “random” searches at the airports often target little old ladies, rather than young males of Middle East origin.
The most likely victims of gang-bangers are: BLACK!
Police abuse should be punished, when uncovered.
However, since gang activity is VERY racial, do we really want to outlaw racial profiling?
How many White or Hispanic people belong to the CRIPS?
How many Blacks belong to the Aryan Brotherhood?—–
By the way, the Federal money Todd Tiahrt provided, for the BTK investigation was used, instead, for RICO cases against the CRIPS!
I have been pushing for the use of RICO against street gangs since the law was passed.
Glad someone finally did it!
Tiahrt deserves our thanks, and the thanks of the Black community, which will suffer less Black on Black crime, due to Tiahrt!
The amount of money the city got from the feds is less than what they spend on handouts to the airlines or running the Hyatt so the city could have had the money long ago if they really cared about combating gangs
TomTherefore:TIAHRT MADE A HUGE DIFFERENCE, AND IT WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED WITHOUT HIM!
Kansas, so your only voting for Tiahrt because he can score federal pork, and government programs? How very conservative of you.
Posted by: Tom Paine | October 02, 2007 at 10:45 AM
No Tom Paine, he is help protecting me by providing funds to our Wichita Police. Safety and Security are at the very bottom rung of the hierarchy of needs.
This issue was addressed and Congressman Tiarht listened. I will vote for those who will listen to their constituents when they cry out for help.
“How many Blacks belong to the Aryan Brotherhood?”
I believe Clarence Thomas would join if allowed to.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/01/AR2007100101332.html?hpid=opinionsbox1
That’s not very nice Steven Davis. A black man like Clarence Thomas who becomes successful and does not fit your mental image of what a black man should be is some how a racist and belong to a racist organization.
Im just trying to figure it all out so now the consevatives are for Federal money and government spending?
Tiahrt will help his constituents if doing so does not go against his ideological blinders. Tiahrt won’t vote for SCHIPS, would not vote for the Wellstone ammendment, etc. He votes more conservatively than Gingrich when Newt was in office.
Todd is useless and always has been.
Ah, the liberal smear of that uppity black man continues.
Get back down there boy. Who gave you permission to think those conservative thoughts? Don’t you know you’re black? You don’t have freedom to think for yourself. You were named right Thom…as.
True that Steven.
Maybe I should call him Tool instead of Toad.
No surprise Paul likes him. Tools from the same tool box
Thomas’s issues go way beyond race, if you read the opinion piece linked. He loathes his accomplishments that he should be proud of. He has a huge chip on his shoulder. Thomas is coming out with an autobiography that might be very interesting.
Tom Paine, not all Federal money is evil.
The funding for the Gang Task Force is a perfect example. The “Crips” crossed State borders to invoke their violent methods and lifestyle into Wichita. Wichita therefore qualified for monies as the RICO statute was invoked for organized crime.
Protection of the people is one of the basic principles of the Constitution.
Building a bridge to no where is what I would call “pork.” :)
Thomas hates affirmative action yet owes his position to affirmative action? that might explain his chip.
outlander,
Nowhere do I say that Thomas is not entitled to his conservative ideas. It is interesting that you guys always go there first – and it is pretty disingenous and I am sure you know that. The black church is very conservative part of the black community, but there are reasons why black folks vote democratic. Did you not note that the top 4 Republican candidates did not show up for the Morgan University debate? A clear statement that black votes don’t matter to the Republicans. The party of Lincoln, indeed – scarcasm off.
Doesn’t sound like the Tiahrt million was ‘earmarked’ for fighting gangs or organized crime, but rather a high profile serial killer investigation. Should he then get credit for the good it did outside of its intended purpose?
He has a huge chip on his shoulder. Thomas is coming out with an autobiography that might be very interesting.
Posted by: Steven Davis | October 02, 2007 at 11:00 AM
I don’t blame him not to have a “chip on his soldier.” Clarence Thomas has managed to deal with a lot of overt and covert racism in this country and has made himself successful.
I watched the interview with him on TV and he explained it very thoroughly. They even showed the scene where he took the Senate to task by blasting them for being racists when they did the Anita Hill smear.
Evidently, if a black man is a conservative some think there is something wrong with him. As Clarence Thomas said, “I am a man first and yes I am a black man.” (paraphrased)
Clarence Thomas gets the same treatment from those of his own race who stereotype what they think an image of a black man should be.
His story is compelling and should be a lesson to his all and why we shouldn’t try to put people in a box of what they should be and where they should put their priorities.
Local law enforcement should a local issue if the City wastes money so that they cant adequately fund enforcement then that should be addressed at the local level. The feds shouldn’t have to ride to the rescue every time the local government runs into a bump. Why have a local government? Just have the feds run everything
“Thomas hates affirmative action yet owes his position to affirmative action? that might explain his chip.”
And he resolves this dissonance by keeping his Yale diploma in his basement with a 15 cents sticker on it. He devalues his accomplishments that were obtained with the help of affirmative action. Usually cognative dissonance is resolved by an upward elevation of the so-conflicted, rather than a downward evaluation as Thomas has done. As I said this man is an interesting study and his autobiography should be interesting.
I disagree Tom Paine on law enforcement being a local issue only.
If there are criminals coming across State lines to perpetuate crime, then it becomes eligible for federal assistance.
If that wasn’t true, a crime could be committed, then the criminal could simply hop a plane and fly to another state not worrying about being prosecuted for a crime being committed in another state.
“cognative dissonance”
Which by the way is spelled”cognitive dissonance” is a term thrown about by freshman psychology students. heck I remember that term being abused when I went to college 30 years ago. :)
Race aside, Thomas reminds me of David Horowitz (of Frontpage infamy): Yet another unhinged sixties radical who shifted 180 degrees; still a radical, just with a new spiel.
It’s a pretty common thing, if you look for it.
For my part, my politics haven’t changed much since my childhood. Funny thing, though, my former centrism is now by some accounts “far left.” Go figure.
For my part, my politics haven’t changed much since my childhood. Funny thing, though, my former centrism is now by some accounts “far left.” Go figure.
Posted by: Rage | October 02, 2007 at 11:19 AM
My politics hasn’t changed either Rage.
However, I well imagine that neither of us were told we couldn’t eat in certain restaurants, stay in certain Hotels or had to sit in the back of the bus either.
That’s why states have extradition laws no not all crime is local sometimes you have to use the feds, but that doesn’t mean the feds fund the local sheriff/city police. The feds do have their own law enforcement arm( about a dz actually) that fight federal crimes, and their own court system too.
So Tom Paine, it was okay for New York to get millions in federal money to prosecute the Mafia under RICO statutes but Wichita can’t do it when there is gang crime in a black neighborhood of Wichita?
You have something against Black neighborhoods Tom Paine?
“cognitive dissonance” is a term thrown about by freshman psychology students. heck I remember that term being abused when I went to college 30 years ago. :)
So you’re an expert on this too. Huge surprise, there. Sorry about the misspelling. Are you taking over Pat’s job now? :D
From the past, this is how Kansas/Repbulican reacted when his spelling errors were pointed out.
RD,
If we are judging grammar and spelling here, I’m sure many of my posts and also Dr. Huie’s posts would fail your standards.
If you want to get into that, then many posts here fail on punctuation, spelling, grammar and structure.
However, I doubt you want to get into that because you meant it to be an ad hominem attack.
Posted by: Republican | May 02, 2007 at 08:54 PM
Being a victim is tough, ask Kansas. And ask Thomas, he has made his “hand up” an attack on himself, too.
Not at all Steven Davis, if I make a spelling error, I expect it will be pointed out.
You have given me the impression that you know a lot about mental health. Thought I would help you out with the proper spelling so you wouldn’t embarrass yourself in front of a colleague. :)
How many blacks (Republican or Democrat) have I had the opportunity to vote on? Doesn;t matter elsewhere.Before tagging someone with your own rascist bs, better look at where you are throwing it. Some of us throw back.
Posted by: littlejohn | October 02, 2007 at 10:38 AM
Lj, of course you missed the point and you tried to weasle out of answering the question. How many black Republicans are there in the House and Congress?The GOP is a racist organization.
How much money did NYC put in its coffers and how much went to the FBI besides NYC has three times the pop. of Kansas there going get more money than Kansas. Kansas, There’s a 100 government programs that exist to help those black neighborhood you have such compassion about, lets solve all their probelms I’m sure you wont mind paying more in taxes to fund them.
Well Tom Paine, I live in those black neighborhoods, so yes, I’m very concerned about it. :)
Not at all Steven Davis, if I make a spelling error, I expect it will be pointed out.Posted by: Kansas | October 02, 2007 at 11:37 AM
Fat chance of that. Too bad everyone doesn’t use FireFox, huh?
Fat chance of that. Too bad everyone doesn’t use FireFox, huh?
Posted by: XXX | October 02, 2007 at 11:55 AM
It does help me a lot XXX and it’s free. You can get it at:
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/landing/better/?utm_content=0705features&utm_source=google&utm_medium=ppc&utm_campaign=0507lndgpgtest&gclid=CLWvxt3X8I4CFQYjWAod7BfrEQ
However, just because you don’t like someone is not a mature or responsible reason to assume corruption.
Back it up or shut up!
Posted by: Econ101
I simply asked a question about Tiarht’s personal skeletons. And when has it been a far reach to assume that anyone who rises to such prominence in politics does not have some skeletons in their closet?
Slander and libelous? This would entail me having stated as a fact something Tiarht did and I stated no such fact. I only asked a hypothetical question.
It seems to me that your knee-jerk response smacks of my hitting a nail on the head – so to speak?
How many black Republicans are there in the House? Or in Congress for that matter?
Posted by: Snuffy Smith
Good question, Snuffy. As you probably know, the answer is
ZIP. NADA. ZERO. ZILCH.
As for Clarence Thomas, he was all for affirmative action until he could no longer benefit from it.
Pulling the ladder up behind him.
I heard him on Flush Limpballs yesterday. I was thinking, “who is this arrogant ass?” Of course it turned out to be Clarence “Uncle Tom” Thomas.
Kansas likes Tiarht because of all the federal money he brings to his district, but yet if this had been a Democrat doing the same thing – we would be having to endure Kansas’ ranting and raving about those free-spending liberals.
Question there Capn,
Would you call Clarence Thomas an “Uncle Tom” to his face?
TIAHRT MADE A HUGE DIFFERENCE, AND IT WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED WITHOUT HIM!
Posted by: Econ101
Still licking those lock-step boots are we?
Kansas likes Tiarht because of all the federal money he brings to his district, but yet if this had been a Democrat doing the same thing – we would be having to endure Kansas’ ranting and raving about those free-spending liberals.
Posted by: maidmarion | October 02, 2007 at 12:06 PM
Really? Is that why I voted for Betts for State Senator as well?
Betts is from my district and a good lad, but needs to stay out of the Liberal hornet’s nest.
No, Kansas.
I’d call him a “fascist traitor to America” to his face.
For stopping the re-count in Florida and giving us the Dictator-in-Chief.
Then I’d invite him to step outside if he had the guts, which he doesn’t.
Okay Capn, just trying to verify the color of the sheet you are wearing. :)
Tiahrt’s aides were involved in a corrupt land deal that cost Wichita taxpayers millions. Tiahrt’s aides were involved in blocking the Florida recount which led to the appointment of Bush as President despite ultimately receiving fewer votes in Florida. Tiahrt has continually said that his partner Tom Delay is completely innocent. Tiahrt has connections to Jack Abramoff.
That sounds like a few skeletons to me.
The only color I’m wearing is “red, white, and blue.”
When some MoFo tells democracy in America to go screw itself, I take that very seriously.
Lj, of course you missed the point and you tried to weasle out of answering the question. How many black Republicans are there in the House and Congress?The GOP is a racist organization.
Posted by: Snuffy Smith | October 02, 2007 at 11:48 AM
I didn’t try and weasel out of anything. I didn;t answer your quesiton, because it was irrevelant to the remark you made directly to me. Wether or not you consider the GOP rascist is up to you.
I can only vote on those people that I am able. I can only be liable for what I can effect. I do not give to the National party. I think both parties suck. I would wish for a viable alternative. Until there is one, I will stay within the Republican Party. I vote, however, for the candidate. Again, how many black senators or representatives have I had an opportunity to vote for? Answer. Zip. Nada. None. Including black Democrats.
Hehe, good points, Doug.
Don’t forget his pledge for TERM LIMITS.
The only color I’m wearing is “red, white, and blue.”
When some MoFo tells democracy in America to go screw itself, I take that very seriously.
Posted by: CapnAmerica | October 02, 2007 at 12:14 PM
So Clarence Thomas made that decision alone and it was the only vote that mattered in the Supreme Court then Capn?
Nice colors there for the sheet Capn. Are you draping yourself in the flag today Capn? :)
Ive thought Tiahrts scumbag going back to the OKC bombing when rather than condemn it as horrible crime he was more afraid of it “making the militia groups look bad”
Attention, translator in the house?
Someone tell me what Tom Paine just wrote.
How condescending of you to call Betts a ‘good lad’. Better be careful there Kansas.
Well maidmairon, he’s almost half my age and it’s term of endearment. I’m not ashamed to use it.
Really something to watch Clarence Thomas’s incoherent and rage-filled attacks on Anite Hill. Uncle Thomas is going to party like it’s 1991!
Quite an interesting discussion on Tavis Smiley last night between Cornel West of Princeton, Marc Morial of the Urban League, and Farah Griffin of Columbia University on the subject of Clarence Thomas. As I recall, West’s point was that the “60 Minutes” interview used images of Al Sharpton and anti-Thomas protestors to characterize his critics, whereas West was able to name a large number of African-American scholars and thinkers who have published extensive critiques of Thomas’ legal rulings and social thought. Morial, as well as West, pointed out the manner in whcih Thomas’ claims to be the victim of liberals serves to disguise the manner in which his rulings have disadvantaged not only African-Americans, but everyone on the low end of the scale. Griffin probably got in the best line in when, in response to the question of whether Thomas’s book had changed her views about him, she chuckled “no.”
Pretty good stuff. 60 minutes should allow Anita Hill on to defend herself against Thomas’s accusations and character assassination. Here’s what she had to say to ABC News in a live interview:
http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=3678152&page=1
Betts is just a typical, pro-criminal black race huckster. In other words, he is the perfect candidate for you brain dead, guilty white libs.
I’m sure Kansas – a good lad is something we hear everyday, right?
Along the same lines, Clarence Thomas hides behind his wife the way Bush hides behind four-star generals.
It’s extremely easy to be a critic CF2K. You can say something that is supposed to be factual.
If that doesn’t work, you can scream it to the point of delivering ear pain and make people accept it as “truth” even though it isn’t.
Kansas, get hit with a sudden case of illiteracy? Ive been posting for several hours now most of which you seen fit respond to even the semi veiled accusation of racism thrown in. Because I’m opposed the the Federal government funding local government, that’s the sort of principle that someone who’s a conservative like you should support. Aren’t less spending and less government especially federal meddling in local matters A cornerstone of Conservatism. Its not my fault you chose to live in a crappy neighborhood, rife with crime.
I’m sure Kansas – a good lad is something we hear everyday, right?
Posted by: maidmarion | October 02, 2007 at 12:43 PM
I don’t know about you maidmairon, but when you have Scot relatives, you hear it quite often. :)
Its not my fault you chose to live in a crappy neighborhood, rife with crime.
Posted by: Tom Paine | October 02, 2007 at 12:46 PM
Thank you very much Tom Paine for your racist assessment of my neighborhood.
Kansas Druid,
Sounds like you’re a Ron Paul kind of guy. I hear he’s the preferred candidate among your buds over at Stormfront.
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php/ron-paul-one-388512.html
In the words of Jake Blues, “I HATE Illinois Nazis.” Or wannabe punk-ass Kansas racists, for that matter.
Punk-ass racist trash.
Kans,”Would you call Clarence Thomas an “Uncle Tom” to his face?”I’m not sure “Uncle Tom” would be appropriate, but on last night’s news he was playing the race card for all it was worth; Johnny Cochran should take lessons!
And I don’t like the number he’s still trying to do on Anita Hill. If she was as mediocre as he says, why did he keep her on? During his confirmation hearings I watched her testimony before congress and I watched his, and if I had been on a jury, I’d have had to say hers rang true and his didn’t.
” In Elk Grove Unified School District v. Newdow and Cutter v. Wilkinson, Thomas argued that the Establishment Clause was not incorporated to states by the Fourteenth Amendment, directly challenging the precedent Everson v. Board of Education.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarence_Thomas
One of many positions Thomas has taken that are “out there.” I haven’t read Elk Grove since Newdow’s lawsuit was thrown out, but, as I recall, even Scalia didn’t agree with him.
CFY2k,
Folks like you and that maidmarion person would vote for OJ Simpson if he were running.
PS: Is the term “BOY” racist?
Betts is just a typical, pro-criminal black race huckster. In other words, he is the perfect candidate for you brain dead, guilty white libs.
Posted by: Kansas Druid | October 02, 2007 at 12:43 PM
Anyone smell a cross burning?
Yep. I think we’re in agreement on that one.
Good points Jed, however it is still incredibly tough for a Black person to succeed in today’s world when the first thing they see, hear or feel is “Oh he/she is black.”
Now if they Libs want to attack Clarence Thomas on his conservative values, that’s fine, I have no problem with that.
However, when they bring up Black as an adjective even before they complete their first sentence, then my eyebrows go up and think “closet racist.”
Evaluate Justice Thomas as a man, not a Black man.
If you hate his politics or ideology, then say so, leave race out of it.
Using “skin labels” is irrelevant and evokes a whole myriad of mind set and pre-judgment.
Kansas Druid-y,
You can have your ‘y’ back, thanks. Isn’t part of my name.
Is ‘boy’ racist? Well, when a racist piece of compound-trash like you says it in a racist way, then yep. It’s called “context.”
As for CF2K voting for OJ Simpson, well, Kansas Druid, you need to put more effort into not looking like a dumbass.
“Betts launches campaign with call for troops to come home”
Didn’t take long for Betts to shoot himself in the foot, did it? If he thinks he can win talking that way, he will get trounced. He was doing real well for a day, though.
Oh for Pete’s sake, KS – pull it out for once…
YOU stated that you lived in one of “those” black neighborhoods and that you were happy about the RICO usage against gangs in “your” neighborhood – I don’t think it’s a “racist” leap for Tom to take to saying that you live in a bad part of town – you yourself implied it…
Folks like you and that maidmarion person would vote for OJ Simpson if he were running.
PS: Is the term “BOY” racist?
Posted by: Kansas Druid
that maidmarion person is here to tell you that I would not vote for OJ Simpson. I can think for myself, I can research for myself and I do not care to drink the Rush/Fox Koolaid – thank you.
The Republicans might like to try thinking for themselves just once. It would be a refreshing change of pace.
BTW, I assume from your assault on me that you think I am black? Guess again.
maidmarion: Do you always speak in cliches?
Fleetwood – Did you not get the memo that 70% of Americans want our soldiers out of Iraq? Who will get trounced are those Bush supporters (the ones left after the 2006 election).
It is a sure bet that George W. Bush is the best PR for the Democratic Party. GWB will keep his mouth running while his brain is in slow-motion.
If Kansas can use ‘good lad’ then I can use cliches.
Besides, cliches make a point against the mindless dribble that usually falls from Republicans postings.
I’ve read some of your favorite cliches also. After all, freedom of speech is our constitutional right (unless boy king Geroge goes after that next).
“Did you not get the memo that 70% of Americans want our soldiers out of Iraq?”
Perhaps you should send it to the democrat congress and then send it to the leading presidential candidates.
“Besides, cliches make a point against the mindless dribble…”
Ahem… Cliches are mindless dribble(?) dribble?
Oh for Pete’s sake, KS – pull it out for once…
YOU stated that you lived in one of “those” black neighborhoods and that you were happy about the RICO usage against gangs in “your” neighborhood – I don’t think it’s a “racist” leap for Tom to take to saying that you live in a bad part of town – you yourself implied it…
Posted by: anon | October 02, 2007 at 01:05 PM
“crappy neighborhood, rife with crime.”
Examine the statement anon. The second part I have no problem with in him saying.
The first part “crappy neighborhood” I do take issue with. Many citizens living in that neighborhood take care of their houses, yards, send their kids to school, have jobs and are working professionals.
Calling a black neighborhood “crappy” is not accurate nor does it serve equitable evaluation of the issues.
“Calling a black neighborhood “crappy” is not accurate…”
But, it does make capn roll his windows up and lock the doors.
YOU stated that you lived in one of “those” black neighborhoods and that you were happy about the RICO usage against gangs in “your” neighborhood – I don’t think it’s a “racist” leap for Tom to take to saying that you live in a bad part of town – you yourself implied it…
Posted by: anon | October 02, 2007 at 01:05 PM
I have to agree. That sounds like a crappy neighborhood to me—Where the feds had to come in with RICO laws to intervene with the gang problem
Kansas, your the one said your neighborhood had a gang problem and needed the Rico laws to take care of it. If theirs gangs theirs crime.
Kansas, your the one said your neighborhood had a gang problem and needed the Rico laws to take care of it. If theirs gangs theirs crime.
Posted by: Tom Paine | October 02, 2007 at 01:22 PM
Well Tom Paine, we’ll just have to disagree on this matter. But you are also on the opposite side of the issue with the Chief of Police, the District Attorneys and the Judges that issued the warrants.
Or are you saying all of those people in those positions are wrong for invoking aspects of the RICO statute?
I don’t get why anyone would live in a neighborhood like that. It doesn’t make any sense.
Betts says the troops should come home. He does not say how he just spits out a sound bite handed to him. Hillary and Obama will not commit to a time before 2013 that as president they would have the troop’s home.
So where do they really stand on this issue?
“So where do they really stand on this issue?”
Wherever you want them to.
“So where do they really stand on this issue?”
Wherever you want them to.
Posted by: fleettwood | October 02, 2007 at 02:13 PM
Gee, that almost sounds like representative government.
Kans,”Evaluate Justice Thomas as a man, not a Black man.If you hate his politics or ideology, then say so, leave race out of it.”
I did; he’s the one who keeps bringing it up. His ancestry is of no concern to me, and while I’m not always in agreement with his his politics or ideology, I’d leave that be. What really bothers me about the guy is my perception that he lied through his teeth at the hearings and is still lying about his behavior with Ms. Hill. His attacks at the time as well as this latest round just don’t speak to me of a man with real integrity.
“Gee, that almost sounds like representative government.”
It’s not if you are trying to pander to both the pro and the anti war crowds. Take a stand!
I will not be voting for Betts!
Real race this time? Yeah right! Betts is going to lose hands down.
The only person that had a chance in the past several years was Carlos Nolla.
Betts is a good guy personally, but not knowledgeable enough and he is way to one-sided and narrow-minded and only serves a minority of constituents.
I’m sure there will be more Democrats running in the 4th. Betts will be one out of many.
Jed, re: Clarence Thomas
Anita Hill came 10 years after the fact and made accusations. She never said a word during her employment, after her employment or while she was getting recommendations for promotions or a new job.
It only came when Clarence Thomas came before the Senate and in front of National Audience did Anita Hill make her accusations.
For the purpose of exactly what?
Even under current Equal Opportunity laws, her testimony would not have been allowed to make a claim of sexual harassment against Justice Thomas.
As an attorney, I’m sure Anita Hill knew what the law stated on making claims of sexual harassment and time limitations.
This was pure smear, meant to defame a conservative nominee. It was politically and ideologically motivated.
How did I miss this! OH YAY BETTS!
Joe once again, not a liberal!
Betts is wildly popular, even far away from your district!
“Even under current Equal Opportunity laws, her testimony would not have been allowed to make a claim of sexual harassment against Justice Thomas.”
This from his honor, Kansas, attorney and judge. Hehehehehehehehehehhe
No Steven Davis, it’s from sitting in those mandatory equal opportunity classes the military makes you sit through. :)
If one pays attention, one can learn a few things.
Anita Hill most likely came forward when she did, because she never dreamed that Thomas would ever be considered for a supreme court Justice, and she felt people needed to know what she knew… Sounds like a good reason to me!!
Well, good night, good luck, and God bless; whatever you conceive God to be!!
Kans,
re: Clarence Thomas,Having seen my share over the years of predatory bosses, I fully understand why she waited until she was out from under his boot before she said anything.
I have a friend who complained of a sexually harrassing supervisor at one of our local aircraft plants and was fired. Company lawyers told her that if she tried to press the complaint, she’d never work in aircraft again. Her supervisor is now a vice-president of the parent company.I had another friend who was forcibly raped and beaten by her boss, an officer of an oil drilling company. The company forged documents that said he was in California at the time of her attack. Unfortunately, DNA testing wasn’t in use at the time. He got off on that charge, but was convicted of a similar rape about five years later. My friend committed suicide.I had a boss who tried to molest every woman in the place until his wife found out and came to work there.Yes, it’s very hard for a woman to make such charges and it’s the defense of every predatory boss that she’s a no-good lying bitch. Seen it way too many times and Thomas was no different. Right down to his excuse.
And really, lets think about this. Is her testimony something any of us would have just made up out of thin air? I don’t think so.
I find her to be far more credible than I do him. He seems to be an angry bitter man.
It was her duty to come forward and testify against him to be putting him in a position to rule against other women in similar situations….such as Goodyear earlier this year.
Well, I tell ya, I am not one of Toddy’s biggest fans but affimative action BOY don’t have a shot!
Who will they run to take Robert’s job?
Check out Donald Betts website http://www.bettsforcongress.com
Jonas–
Nothing could help Betts more than have the racist prick vote like yours on the other side.
Thanks.