Thing is, it couldn’t teach disrespect for women if that disrespect wasn’t already inculcated into the child’s upbringing. Children get the foundation of their attitudes about gender relations from their parents. Without that existing bias, such porn would be utterly meaningless.

I don’t think you see anything close to that in a Halloween store.

Lighten up!

Posted by: Econ101

Absolutely, I agree completely. Your statement earlier about being able to see cheerleaders and athletes in skimpy outfits (which is all the worst is in terms of Halloween costumes at Party City, etc etc) everywhere was perfect.

Posted by: outlander

Uh, I’m a woman and I enjoy porn. Different strokes for different folks I guess. (pun not originally intended)

And you’re absolutely right, brian. Look at the lives of serial killers… most started mutilating animals before the age of 10. They had bad home lives, bad parents, were abused, infinite reasons they decided to kill. If they watched porn and the types of porn they watched are a SYMPTOM, not a cause of what they did when they killed.

Posted by: outlander | October 12, 2007 at 09:45 AM ”

So are you saying pornography causes young men to view women as sex objects and disrespect them and causes sex crimes?

I think those things happen in the minds of the individuals before they see their first pornographic images.

Nathan, I think I answered that clearly:

“Zoning and restrictions on ‘what can be seen where’ make sense.”

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/494203,CST-NWS-snake02.article

I mean the kid had a snake coming out of his pants after he tried stealing it. According to Jan Beemer a snake coming out of someone’s pants is obscene.

Years ago, I too had a stint as a model at the art school. The feedback from the classes were quite encouraging. In their own words, they expressed a gratitude to have a model with some dance training who could hold some difficult poses.

I’ve come to realize that nudity is probably the most natural state for humans. Why else would we born naked?

He is just flashing (pun intended) his christian/Taliban credentials.

We’d better be careful though, he might threaten us. You know he is a big, bad marine (reservist) who is protecting us from those halloween costume wearing terrorists.

He knows guns, his daddy says he’s a wepons specialist.

We should probably listen to EVERYTHING he says.

How can anyone take these people seriously?

How about a wierd guy flashing in front of your kids?”

Way too many years ago when I was a fine arts major at KU, I had a professor who would take a model home on weekends to paint in his studio. His wife and kids were quite used to being around nude models.One nice weekend he decided instead of painting, he’d take the family on a canoe trip down the Kaw river. as they came around a river bend, a young man stepped out of the bushes quite nude and waving to them. Wife and kids glanced up, waved back and paddled on, leaving behind one very frustrated flasher.I’ve always considered their attitude to nudity much healthier than what the churches promote.

By far most people who view porn aren’t predators, they aren’t pervs. So don’t dictate what others can do simply because of a few.

No no no no no.

I totally 100% disagree.

Vice cops had lots of stories to tell us.

But we are not talking about porn here. We are not talking about nuddie bars.

Yes, kids will be exposed to some things that us parents will find awkward to explain.

It is kind of like a child who has an overprotective parent, who literally “sanitizes” everything, boiling bottles, disinfecting everything a child might ever touch.

The kid never develops normal, natural immunities. The kid is unhealthy, in future years, due to TOO MUCH mothering, coddeling and protection.

A kid who is overprotected, even from tasteful, clothed sexual expressions of others, will not be socially healthy.

I don’t want my kids exposed to S & M, to gross porn or really kinky, degrading sexual material that does not respect women.

I don’t think you see anything close to that in a Halloween store.

Lighten up!

I don’t even know what the costumes were. I don’t really care for moral do gooders, they are the biggest hypocrites of all. But let’s be fair when talking about what their issue is concerning this.

OK, now let’s talk porn. I’m newer to Kansas, came from a more liberal state, goes both dem and rep from time to time. It’s more liberal overall. Less crime, less drugs, less porn shops, less strip clubs, less “escort” agencies. So now I’m here in the Bible belt, and the things bible thumpers are against, their is 5 times as much as. Why? I think it’s interesting. Nobody where I come from cares about nudie bars, when one does open, nobody makes an issue of it, but yet their aren’t many. I dunno what I’m trying to say.

Now, is porn right, or is porn wrong. Well, in principle it’s not wrong enough for anyone or any government agency to but their noses into. BUT BUT BUT…

It DOES rip up alot of lives. I’ve known so many girls who have been destroyed by that industry. Their are also some who do it, make some money, and get a jumpstart in life. YOU’D BE SOCKED HOW MANY HOT SOCCER MOM’S HAVE A JADED PAST!

I’ve been able to have a unique insight into this whole porn, adult entertainment issue. I work with people in recovery, I help them, and that’s what helps me. I’ve had some pretty deep personal conversations with gals who have been drug through that lifestyle. I’ve also known a couple who didn’t develope a drug habit, or alcoholism, and THEY will be the 1st to admit they are .10%

I’ve even known 2 people who own strip clubs. Even THEY concede that it completely destroys the women. To quote ones comments when a dancer was braging up her money situation, “she will have NOTHING in 10 years, especially her pride.”

The pornography and adult entertainment industry is riddled with drugs, and most, even those who swear they would never fall into that trap do.

It needs to be cleaned up in my opinion. The government has in my opinion a civil right to help prevent people from destroying themselves. I think entertainers should be highly screened for drugs at their expense, every 30 days. I’m talking hair test, you can’t cheat those. If they fail one, then they lose their licence. 1/3 of all money that ends up into the hands of drug cartels originated in the adult entertainment industry. Not only do girls work to support habits, they often are supporting some useless moran’s habit too. Strict monitering of drug use in that field would be a MAJOR blow to drug dealers!

Show me a Halloween costume that shows more skin than a perfectly legal bathing suit?

Show me a Halloween costume that shows more skin than the average cheerleader uniform, or gymnastics outfit?

Show me a Halloween costume that shows more skin than the ceilings of a Vatican Cathedral. (Painted at a time when all Christians were Catholic.)

Are they going to protest JC Penny’s catalogues next?

Please folks, don’t make a laughingstalk out of yourselves. You make it more difficult to make serious changes or to make serious complaints about things that matter.

Do you want people walking in front of your children naked?

How about a wierd guy flashing in front of your kids?

Are you ok with that? Or should it be illegal?

Nathan, how did you go from inappropriate costumes to somebody flashing your kids.These racy costumes are worn by women, not men. My stance on the porn issue is different from these constumes. I think porn objectifies women, and desenitizes people that watch them to sexual reality, meaning it perverses their sexuality if that makes any sense, and there are correlations with the porn industry and sex crimes that takes place. On the other hand, young women that choose to wear racy costumes at a halloween party is something completly different. Their not getting paid to dress like a slut, as one college student stated, she gets to tramp out once a year, and be eyed by men as a piece of meat without having to feel violated, thats her choice, in an adult setting to do so. I think the porn industry is extremly sleazy and classless, and its sad to say some of the porn peddelars are major corporations like Hilton Hotels, and General Motors. Its easy sleazy money, I don’t think it should be illegal, but people should be educated why watching it is detrimental to ones mental health, and parents need to do a better job of monitoring internet use, because the internet can be a very disgusting place, especially if a kid is surfing unsupervised, and is looking for smut, I’d imagine a kid who didn’t know any better, might think that the porn they see is what is normal in the real world and that is where the most damadge is done. I still think banning costumes is ludacrous, it’s like a catch 22 with the kids. It seems like kids are more sheltered than ever, banning them from playing tag, and absurb things of that matter, but then theres the internet, when your trying to protect them from the scary world outside, theres an even sicker world they can tap into, in your own home. Really it comes down to, as it always has, the parents doing their job.

I’m dying here. Really. What a stretch.