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- By Phillip Brownlee
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“I’ve posted before that the climate models are flawed.
And I’ve posted that the huge UNCERTAINTY re future climate is the main problem.
If we knew EXACTLY how much it’d warm, how much the sea level would rise, we could plan for it.”
Posted by: cosmos | July 08, 2007 at 02:44 PM
The troll starts athread with its usual copy/paste contribution.
Is this troll incapable of any original thought?
Your next president…….
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/rosnerPage.jhtml
Great things are happening in Wichita. :)
It just puts a big smile on my face.
Great editorial in the paper today, Steve! We need to make some major changes in our healthcare system…making it affordable for everyone would be one place to start.
I hate it when the Beagle puts important news about the wars in the middle of section A and often in Section B. Now in this mornings paper they have this news of significant local importance on page of 3 in of all places the sports section ….. what gall ——- or could it be casino envy?
“HAH !!!!” Chris MAtthews
Mulvane completes perfect regular season.
BY JASON AULTWichita Eagle correspondent
BELLE PLAINE – Mulvane capped its perfect regular season in impressive fashion. The Wildcats dominated Belle Plaine on Thursday night 50-21 in Class 4A-District 12.
Mulvane will advance to the playoffs and will play host to Rose Hill on Tuesday night.
“I am awfully happy for our kids,” Mulvane coach Dave Fennewald said. “Nine and oh was probably something that nobody envisioned. The kids overcame a lot of things.”
Belle Plaine managed to keep it close early. After spotting Mulvane an early second quarter touchdown, the Dragons answered when Kevin Jerrick ran for a 4-yard touchdown. Jerrick’s run on the two-point conversion gave Belle Plaine a lead.
But it went downhill quickly.
Jordan Gosch threw for three second-quarter touchdowns to give Mulvane a 29-8 halftime lead. Gosch finished with 152 passing yards.
“We started slow, but we started getting in a groove and kept going from there,” Gosch said.
On Mulvane’s first play of the second half, Huldon Tharp ran 65 yards for a touchdown. He ran for two more touchdowns and finished with 147 yards.
Cooper Stewart led Belle Plaine with 209 passing yards and two touchdowns. Jerrick ran for 139 yards.
Belle Plaine finished with a winning record for the first time since 1996.
“These kids broke a 24-game district losing streak, so they have a lot to be proud of,” Belle Plaine coach D.J. Basgall said. “They went through… for me in two-a-days and always kept it together, even when things were tough.”
Hit the decks! Dick’s a goin’ huntin’!
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/25/caution-cheney-going-hunting-this-weekend/
I wonder if all those deferments gave him ample time to hone his crack shooting skills?
I wonder if all those deferments gave him ample time to hone his crack shooting skills?
kudos and propers for our own Steven Davis who has a published Reader view in op ed today.
Well done Steven!
Giving health insurance to somebody who makes $29 per hour makes no sense. Why should I be forced to pay for someones health insurance who makes more than I do? Perhaps buying that new car or big screen TV was a bad idea. Maybe they bought more house than they could afford. You people have overstepped again.
Fleetwood- Don’t you help pay the insurance costs for Bush and Cheney and the entire Congress, and they make more than you? Why not howl about that?
Which one of the boycotters are you “Say What?” :)
“Why not howl about that?”
I do.
Fleetwood, they all want something for nothing.
Free healthcare, is just the next step for them.
God knows what’s next.
The libs won’t believe it, but we don’t mind helping poor people.Helping the bastard across the street with a nicer car?
Not so much.
That’s it exactly Fleetwood.
If they have the same or higher standard of living we do, but are on the public dole, you tend to get ticked-off about that.
Especially when you leave for work every day, while they retire at age 30.
My ex-sister-in-law was like that.
Big 4 bedroom house, 2 newer cars, didn’t work after divorcing my brother.
She still received:
Food stampsADCHeating assistanceFree school lunches for 2 kids
Also the only child who has now inherited a $2 million farm.
Nice of us taxpayers to make sure she didn’t have to work though.
you know, i’m kinda tired of hearing about this universal healthcare, if the government wants to start a federal medical healthcare system let them, they have a so called 40 million people without healthcare. let those people that want it, start paying into that system and see in a couple years if that is the way to go. if not, the rest of us will stay with our current programs. why does it have to be everybody or nobody. I assume with 40 million people buying from a federal program they should be able to get competitive medical pricing and get a moderate rate of health coverage.. let the so called efficent Government make up cost differances with low overhead.
Maybe that’s the welfare for the rich everyone complains about.
No one can agree on a definition for “rich” though.
“No one can agree on a definition for “rich” though.”
The libs thought it was $60,000 per year. Until it wasn’t.
Are you guys rehearsing for a spot on Jib Jab? Just wonderin’.
jib jab has a sock puppet catagory?
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Cafferty_File_King_George_Queen_Hillary_1025.html
Everyone has someone to compare to who has nicer or crappier things then them.
So what? A person has a nicer car than you. Are you really that juvenile?
“They have a nicer car than me, I won’t help them! Nananananana”
Perhaps different circumstances and seeing the whole picture would be smarter.
“”They have a nicer car than me, I won’t help them!”
That would be correct. Looks to me, they could help themselves.
Ok get rid of all the social programs. First thing that happens everyone will be forced to save.Demand will drop in the consumer driven economy instant recession if not worse.
Do you guys really want to go back to the 1890’s?
“Hit the decks! Dick’s a goin’ huntin’!”
Posted by cf2k.
A new reality show in the works after the dickster gets dumped: Dick Cheney’s shootin the stars!
“That would be correct. Looks to me, they could help themselves.
Posted by: fleettwood | October 26, 2007 at 11:29 AM”
Such a telling answer about you as a person.
Obama’s gaff just wont go away. I found this on another blog.
Alvin McEwen: LGBT’s of color have been kicked off the bus & told to find our own way home…When Obama first included McClurkin in his campaign, he made him himself look like a hypocrite. Here is a man who onced addressed homophobia in the black church now inviting a purveyor of it to raise money for him via a series of black gospel concerts.
And when he is criticized for this decision, he seeks to soothe wounded feelings by inviting an openly gay white pastor to take part.
So on one side of Obama is Donnie McClurkin, who represents the black church. On the other side is Pastor Sidden, who represents the lgbt community.
That is the wrong symbol to put forth.
Inviting an openly gay black pastor would have been an excellent way to demonstrate the commonalities between the lgbt and African-American struggles for self-determination.
Obama’s clumsy invitation to Pastor Sidden only perpetuates the myth that being black and being gay are two separate identities that don’t overlap.
Furthermore, it means that folks like myself (lgbts of color) are once again shown how invisible we are.
No. More than that.
We have been given the hook, pushed to the side, had the trapdoor to the alligator pit released under our feet.
LGBTs of color haven’t been just pushed to the back of the bus in this controversy. We have been kicked off of the bus and told to find our own way home….
http://holybulliesandheadlessmonsters.blogspot.com/2007...
New Blog Phase:
Welfare / Health Care / Hot Air
And alongside Hot Air, coming in a close 4th — DontCare (when people on the Blog simply dont care about anybody but themselves)
Thought I would stop in and have a look — Uh huh — Still more of the same stuff — Except for no God/Guns/Gays(almost) –
Maybe Obama is simply showing that even people who dont agree on everything can manage to work together for the common good??
See “Google” on Jeremy Bentham for ccclarification of the Utilitarian Principles.
“Despite these game-changers, the post-Holcomb spin on both sides this week sounded like politics as usual.
“Some conservative Republicans reacted with predictable bluster and outrage.
“House Speaker Melvin Neufeld, R-Ingalls, told business leaders in Wichita that Sebelius was just playing politics, angling for a job in the next presidential administration. Others tagged her as a ‘flip-flopper.’
“State Sen. Phil Journey, R-Haysville, even suggested that KDHE could be abolished.
“Maybe if they hold their breath, climate change will go away, too?”
By Randy Schofield
http://www.kansas.com/203/story/210384.html
I know some churchs’ official positions and applaud them for it.
Obama belongs to United Church of Christ. His own CHURCH doesnt opposte gay marriage, but he does.
And this?
“Maybe Obama is simply showing that even people who dont agree on everything can manage to work together for the common good??”
Gotta call bullshit on that one.
Would he be just fine if Hillary invited David Duke to sing a few tunes to raise money for her?
I mean, it would prove that people who cant agree can work together for the common good.
Hey, the KKK folks cant help it. It’s how they were raised, and their church taught it.
Hypocrisy. Would it be all right to have the American Nazi Party Band play a few marches and dirges at the Democrat’s convention?
I love how in the big tent, bigotry against some is ok, but against others it is not.
And THAT is the hard truth.
Obama is clearly selling out his LBGT supporters, particularly LBGTs of color, in favor of the black evangelical vote.
Is anyone expendable to him, as long as they can bring in more votes?
Well, KFG, it was just a thought… Beyond that, I dont have a clue what Obama is trying to do! What he is doing certainly isnt in lock step with his own church denomination.
Oh, BTW, I sent an email to both Obama’s campaign, and to his home church, asking them to have a serious talk with him.
Chas will set Obama straight!
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Boycott over?
No Max — Just looking in on the Blog — And I see not much has changed — What a pity!!
No Max — Just looking in on the Blog — And I see not much has changed — What a pity!!
Remember Max, I know Obama’s Pastor… or did you forget that little piece of information?
Max – Remember, I know Obama’s Pastor, or did you forget that little piece of information?
Geez, Blog is double posting… something must be wrong!!
I think now would be a great time to say STERLING HIGH IS GOING TO WIN 2A CROSS COUNTRY AND DO A THREE-PEAT!!! GO STERLING BLACK BEARS!! GRRRRRR
Also good job, Dan and Larry, You guys rock at coaching and maybe having gray hair! Haha Go get them!! Run for the Lord!
WHAT THE CAPTAIN OF THE TITANIC MAY HAVE FACED IF DEPENDING ON THE U.S. GOVERNMENT FOR ADVISE IN THE EVENT OF STRIKING AN ICEBERG.(Inspired by the Senate subcommittee on responding to a biohazard)
“Captain we seem to have stuck an iceberg!”.“Quickly summon the government iceberg threat response advisory board!”.
“Good evening Captain I have been chosen to be the spokesman for the government advisory board.My team is made up of several different agencies, I am with the department of transportation, Mr. Jones is with the Maritime advisory commission, Ms, Domfort is with the N.O.W.A. and finally we have assemble a task force to work on your present situation. Consisting of several sub advisory commission made up by over five hundred different experts in tides, weather, ship hull construction, metal urge, physics both theoretic and practical.
After several years of system analysis, modeling and practical theory applications dedicated to your particular situation as of this moment here I wish to present to you our twenty five thousand page advisory outline!”.
“Ahhh, the bow is about to slip beneath the waves guy… Can you just give me the conclusion of the report?”.
“Sure, the iceberg is not sinking the Titanic, the ship is over loaded with experts!”.
“I’ve posted before that the climate models are flawed.
And I’ve posted that the huge UNCERTAINTY re future climate is the main problem.
If we knew EXACTLY how much it’d warm, how much the sea level would rise, we could plan for it.”
Posted by: cosmos | July 08, 2007 at 02:44 PM
Absolutely.
The climate models are conservative.
It’s impossible to include all of the unknown, natural positive feedbacks in the climate models. And climate is a sensitive, nonlinear system.
For example, scientists don’t know how soon absorption of CO2 in the oceans will slow. Or by how much. Absorption in the Atlantic and Southern Oceans is already slowing down.
Warming is happening faster than scientists projected.
Arctic sea ice loss compared to IPCC modelshttp://www.carbonequity.info/images/seaice07.jpg
Rational people recognize that anthropogenic global warming is happening faster than scientists projected — and that we need to sharply reduce greenhouse gas emissions.
Irrational people say that because the scientists underestimated the warming, we should ignore it. And they demand that scientists do the impossible, and make more accurate projections.
‘Full Version of White House “Edited” CDC Climate Report – with highlights!’http://www.desmogblog.com/full-version-of-white-house-edited-cdc-climate-report-with-hightlights
“These were not minor edits the White House PR spin machine would like us to believe. The word-count for the CDC Director’s Senate testimony went from 3,107 to 1,500 after the White House got through with it.”
Deleted part in red, at link above.
‘Global Warming’s Long-Term Effect Uncertain, Study Says’http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/10/071025-global-warming.html
“How much Earth’s climate will change due to global warming is inherently unpredictable, a new study argues.
…The new study, co-authored by Marcia Baker of the University of Washington, argues that feedback processes that are fundamental to our climate make it hard to predict how the climate will behave in the long run.”More at link.
It won’t be long before the computer models are very accurate:
MOORE’S LAW:(môrz lâ) (n.) The observation made in 1965 by Gordon Moore, co-founder of Intel.The number of transistors per square inch on integrated circuits had doubled every year since the integrated circuit was invented. Moore predicted that this trend would continue for the foreseeable future.
In subsequent years, the pace slowed down a bit, but data density has doubled approximately every 18 months, and this is the current definition of Moore’s Law, which Moore himself has blessed.
Most experts, including Moore himself, expect Moore’s Law to hold for at least another two decades.
“Heat Stress and Direct Thermal Injury
One of the most likely climate change projections is an increase in frequency of hot days, hot nights, and heat waves. The United States is expected to see an increase in the severity, duration, and frequency of extreme heat waves. This, coupled with an aging population, increases the likelihood of higher mortality as the elderly are more vulnerable to dying from exposure to excessive heat. Midwestern and northeastern cities are at greatest risk, as heat-related illness and death appear to be related to exposure to temperatures much hotter than those to which the population is accustomed. ” from cosmos link.
No wonder bush cut this part out, it’s probably his answer to the retiring baby boomer and SS problem.
“We will not be a safer country, we will not be a safer America if the whole world watches us being defeated by a bunch of kids with improvised explosive devices.”– Former Sen. Fred Thompson (R-TN), 10/25/07, on the Iraqi insurgency
VERSUS
“Groups are well organized, produce regular publications, react rapidly to political developments and appear surprisingly centralized.”– International Crisis Group, 2/16/06, in a report on the Iraqi insurgency
FEMA runs a press conference using its own employess acting as memebers of the press. ??
http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSN2636610020071026
Boy Found Hanging in Halloween Spider Web Display, Near Death
Thursday, October 25, 2007
As a Big Black Spider Approached, He Was Waiving One Arm Yelling: Help Me! Heeeelllllllppppp Meeeeeeee!!!!!TAMPA, Florida — A 6-year-old Central Florida boy—found hanging in his family’s Halloween spider web display—nearly died from asphyxiation, according to WKMG-TV, local 6 in Tampa.
In an interview with the station, the boy’s mother, Dawn Hampton, described finding her son entangled in the family’s fake spider web made out of nylon.
See, that’s why Halloween should be banned
(rolls eyes)
Redstate reconsiders banning Ron Paul supporters:
An olive branch to Ron Paul supportersCan’t we all get along?By krempasky
“Maybe we were harsh
Kicking Paultards to the curb
Come back! Bring Haiku”So over the last few days, we’ve been inundated (or is it infested?) with calls to allow Ron Paul supporters to participate here at RedState. We’ve had others misread Leon’s post (with really impressive obtuseness) as a hatred of all lovers of liberty.
But at the same time, no one recognizes more than we do the raw passion that folks have for Ron Paul. The creativity to spot a Zionist conspiracy around every corner has to be worth something, too.
So we decided that yes, new Ron Paul-supporting comments do have a place here at RedState. So starting now – the floodgates are open. Sort of. You may shill for Ron Paul, with one condition: you must do it using the form of Japanese poetry known as Haiku. Failure to comply makes it easy to delete the comments and diaries – so have at it
Good idea writerdog! Too bad I don’t like Haikus. haha
Redstate reconsiders banning Ron Paul supporters:
An olive branch to Ron Paul supportersCan’t we all get along?By krempasky
“Maybe we were harsh
Kicking Paultards to the curb
Come back! Bring Haiku”So over the last few days, we’ve been inundated (or is it infested?) with calls to allow Ron Paul supporters to participate here at RedState. We’ve had others misread Leon’s post (with really impressive obtuseness) as a hatred of all lovers of liberty.
But at the same time, no one recognizes more than we do the raw passion that folks have for Ron Paul. The creativity to spot a Zionist conspiracy around every corner has to be worth something, too.
So we decided that yes, new Ron Paul-supporting comments do have a place here at RedState. So starting now – the floodgates are open. Sort of. You may shill for Ron Paul, with one condition: you must do it using the form of Japanese poetry known as Haiku. Failure to comply makes it easy to delete the comments and diaries – so have at it
sorry for the double post, it said it did not go through the first time. Odd….
You’re forgiven, he writerdog, can I ask you a question? How long did you live in Sterling, KS?
Yes I saw this story about the Fake Fema newscast:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=15673519
This administration’s contempt for openness and transparency is quite noteworthy.
Max: Universal halthcare run by a government will bring a lot of grief I feel, but universal insurance for catastrophic events should not. Let dental, eye and drug care stay in the hands of the individual because that’s where the real problem of uncontrolled rising costs lay. I don’t want to pay for your gleaming white smile, cool glasses/contacts or latest designer drugs, but I’ll willingly try very hard to save your life, pre-existing conditions or not. And you can help me when I need it. Most folks would do the same, I think.
AWinters: LOL well that made me stop in my tracks! I lived in Sterling for about two years, you will love the college there. great little liberal arts college and the town is very supportive. Not a lot to do there, but that never seemed to stop the students from having a enjoyable time. I worked there for a bit and loved meeting people from other countries.Kenya, Ethiopia and the like, it was funny to listen to their ideas of what they expected America to be like.
I still have some relatives there (in-laws) and if I could get the writing thing to pay off. I would move back there, it would be a great place to set and write.
It is great, I’ve lived in Sterling my entire life. Thanks for the support.
Well how is everyone? Do you liberals know the punishment you face for defying MY order for a embargo (boycotti, whatever)?
You miss me don’t you?
You miss my leadership.
The WEBLOG is obviously going broke without my wonderful posts herein.
I’ll bet they have lost a lot of advertising dollars due to me.
How is the dust bowl coming in Kansas? Should be setting up pretty good when man stops destroying God’s natural environment in western and southern Kansas. Stop stealing the water from the soil. Stop stealing the water from the rivers. Stop robbing the deep to nourish your unnatural crops and livestock. The water belongs where it came from – not on the surface.
You are increasing the destruction of the earth and our Kansas climate with your unnatural affections.
FRED THOMPSON OUTLINES STRONG PLAN ON ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION
Former Senator and current GOP Presidential candidate Fred Thompson has taken a strong step forward in gaining the GOP nomination by outlining a strong and comprehensive program to combat illegal immigration. Finally someone who understands the threat this poses to the nation and the importance that this issue is to the American people.
Thompson’s plan includes tough border security including technological means, fencing and increased border patrols. Taking away Federal grants and funds to ALL Sanctuary Cities until they comply with Federal laws. Cracking down on employers who hire illegals in order to dry up jobs which will include verifying identification and stiff penalties for employers knowingly hiring illegals. The plan also calls for , “yanking, ” federal funds from colleges who offer in state tuition to illegal aliens. Additionally the plan calls for rigorous identification of who is coming in and out of the country and increased prosecution for, “coyote, ” smugglers who traffic in illegals.
Thompson stated that, “Taxpayer money should not be provided to illegal immigrants.” Finally a candidate that gets it concerning illegal immigration and is willing to take a tough stand in enforcing our laws, border security and stopping the flow and the reasons for the flow of illegal aliens into our country. Way to go Fred!
TAKE THE QUIZ – WHO SAID IT ?
The following quiz was borrowed from Mark at Casting Pearls Before Swine. Take the quiz first and resist the temptation to look at the anwsers BEFORE taking the quiz. Good Luck!
1) “We’re going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.”A. Karl MarxB. Adolph HitlerC. Joseph StalinD.None of the above
2) “It’s time for a new beginning, for an end to government of the few, by the few, and for the few…and to replace it with shared responsibility for shared prosperity.”A. LeninB. MussoliniC. Idi AminD. None of the Above
3) “(We)…can’t just let business as usual go on, and that means something has to be taken away from some people.”A. Nikita KhrushevB. Jose f GoebbelsC. Boris YeltsinD. None of the above
4) “We have to build a political consensus and that requires people to give up a little bit of their own…in order to create this common ground.”A. Mao Tse DungB. Hugo ChavezC. Kim Jong IlD. None of the above
5) “I certainly think the free-market has failed.”A. Karl MarxB. LeninC. MolotovD. None of the above
6) “I think it’s time to send a clear message to what has become the most profitable sector in (the) entire economy that they are being watched.”A. PinochetB. MilosevicC. Saddam HusseinD. None of the above
Answers:
(1) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/29/2004(2) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 5/29/2007(3) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007(4) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007(5) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007(6) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 9/2/2005
Hillary Clinton – Socialsist or Communist…..you decide!
Funny Destassler, I agree down with Hillary!
By November 2008, the war in Iraq will NOT be front and center in the minds of voters. We are doing better and better there each day, and it looks like tremendous progress is being made. A year from now, voters will be ready to tackle other issues.
The economy is strong, and will remain strong as long as Bush’s tax cuts remain in place. They will be there until after the next election, and Congress can’t raise taxes in the meantime without finding a way to come up with the votes to override a veto. Despite the best efforts of liberals and the media to induce a panic over the economy, we continue to have low unemployment, low interest rates, economic growth, and shrinking deficits.
Human race will ’split into two different species’By NIALL FIRTH – More by this author »Last updated at 16:18pm on 26th October 2007The human race will one day split into two separate species, an attractive, intelligent ruling elite and an underclass of dim-witted, ugly goblin-like creatures, according to a top scientist.
100,000 years into the future, sexual selection could mean that two distinct breeds of human will have developed.
The alarming prediction comes from evolutionary theorist Oliver Curry from the London School of Economics, who says that the human race will have reached its physical peak by the year 3000.
The next Chapter of the evolution debate has been written.
^^
I’ll be gone by then ^^.
It was nice of Writerdog to allow us to post.
Ron Paul: kook. He kept rambling on about things like “blood for oil” and how our currency is “counterfeit” now that we don’t have the gold standard and how we have lost all our civil liberties. I am surprised he didn’t throw in “black helicopters.” Ron, the tin foil is in aisle seven. I know you raised a lot of money, but that only proves that a lot of people out there have more money than brains
Guess what your Senate is up to today…to compete with your prospective jobs the Senate just put the DREAM act up for vote again to give ILLEGAL ALIENS your school money etc. Her is what is in the DREAM Act.
The DREAM Act will grant amnesty to millions of illegal aliens and help them pay college tuition at taxpayer expense. Please note that S.2205, unlike some versions of the bill, now has an age limit of 30. There is, however, NO CAP on the number of people who may receive amnesty under the DREAM Act.
Moreover, to make even MORE illegals eligible for amnesty under the program, Homeland Security may waive the following offenses:
* Failure to show up in court* Obtaining visas by fraud* Alien smuggling* Document fraud* Violation of student visas* Marriage fraud* Falsely claiming citizenship* Voter fraud
Once an illegal alien applies for legal status under the DREAM Act, he or she may not be removed-FOR ANY REASON WHATSOEVER-while the application is pending. Furthermore, the educational requirements in the bill are virtually meaningless as Homeland Security may waive the application of them if the alien can show “compelling circumstances for the inability to complete the requirements.” And, illegal aliens who obtain amnesty under this bill will likely become eligible for in-state tuition and for federal financial aid.
So you better study hard…or some illegal will pull the “affirmative action” card and take your new job anyway.
Roberts is going to vote against it…you better contact Brownback and read them the riot act to vote AGAINST the DREAM act.
Brownbacks office – 202-224-6521
In fact call all these asshats listed below and ask them not to support it.
Durbin (Asst. Maj. Leader) — 202-224-2152 Reid (Maj. Leader)– 202-224-3542 Shelby (AL)– 202-224-5744 Hagel (co-sponsor) 202-224-4224 Lugar (co-sponsor) 202-224-4814 Brownback (KS) 202-224-6521 Grassley (IA) 202-224-3744 Lott (MS) 202-224-6253 Cochran (MS) 202-224-5054 Hutchison (TX) 202-224-5922 Byrd (WV) 202-224-3954
I AM A TERRORIST- AND YOU MAY BE TOO!!
Today I learned that I am a terrorist. I am a threat to aviation and a threat to the United States. Not because of anything I have done but because I am a UNION MEMBER. Union members are now being added to the terror watch list by the TSA.
http://www.infoshop.org/inews/article.php?story=20071013060623274
The strange thing about this is the fact that hundreds of the firefighters and cops that gave their lives WILLINGLY on 9-11-01 were also union members. Now we must and should inform their families that they caused their own demise by supporting those who attacked the WTC on 9-11-01. I guess, by Republican reasoning that the NYC and NJ cops and firefighters who died on 9-11 did not in fact run to the WTC out of a desire to save those inside but out of a feeling of guilt for having assisted in the attack. Do you people yet see how f**king LOONEY the Republicans are????
Amadhimminutjob:
In Iran we don’t have homosexuals like in your country. We don’t have that like in your country. … In Iran we do not have this phenomenon. I don’t know who’s told you that we have this.
Wow. So… I guess that’s because you EXECUTED them all?
Kinda makes you wonder when you hear a terrorist dictator say things like “We do not have weapons of mass destruction… I don’t know who’s told you that we have this.”
Do you people yet see how f**king LOONEY the Republicans are????
Posted by: Kev
Now Kev, don’t go exaggerating. Lot’s of groups, people, from a wide variety of walks in life make the list.
Why, even you probably are on it.
And don’t worry about the unions. They represent less than 15% of working Americans. They are small potato’s.
But yet they are Americans and 15% is still a large part of America.
Silly, it’s not 15% of Americans. It is 15% of working Americans. We are nearing the place in our conversion to socialism, that over half of the population no longer works or contributes to the nation. That is the sum of those feeding at the trough.
In short, I am against the legal sanctioning of gay marriage.
I’ll get right to the point. I am against gay marriage for two basic reasons. First, allowing gay marriage destroys marriage’s special place in our society. In my opinion, the ideal family includes a loving mother and father raising children. By opening up the definition of marriage to include anything other than one man and one woman flies in the face of (an estimated) 99.999% of the tradition of marriage in our Western, Jeudo/Christian culture.
Second, allowing gay marriage opens the floodgates to all sorts of other ‘marital arrangements’ including polygamy and incest. After all, if we cannot ‘discriminate’ based on the gender of two people wishing to enter into ‘matrimony’ then why can we exclude a man and three women, four women and two men or even brother and sister? For those of you who think this argument is ridiculous I implore you to read Matthew Franck’s piece at NRO.
Many people will counter by asserting that is not ‘fair’ to homosexuals that they are not allowed to enter into a legal contract to express their love, gain the tax benefits, etc. To those people I say, sorry. I am honestly sorry that you find the situation unfair. If there were some way to compromise, I would be happy to consider it. I do not think, however, that there is an acceptable compromise simply because any compromise leads inevitably not to a slippery slope but rather directly to the proverbial cliff. Anyone who supports gay marriage has no standing to oppose any other ‘marital arrangement’ someone might propose. That is a road I will not willingly travel.
Jesus Wept.
Russian astronomer has predicted that Earth will experience a “mini Ice Age” in the middle of this century, caused by low solar activity. Khabibullo Abdusamatov of the Pulkovo Astronomic Observatory in St. Petersburg said Monday that temperatures will begin falling six or seven years from now, when global warming caused by increased solar activity in the 20th century reaches its peak, RIA Novosti reported.
The coldest period will occur 15 to 20 years after a major solar output decline between 2035 and 2045, Abdusamatov said. Dramatic changes in the earth’s surface temperatures are an ordinary phenomenon, not an anomaly, he said, and result from variations in the sun’s energy output and ultraviolet radiation.
The Northern Hemisphere’s most recent cool-down period occurred between 1645 and 1705. The resulting period, known as the Little Ice Age, left canals in the Netherlands frozen solid and forced people in Greenland to abandon their houses to glaciers, the scientist said.
And don’t get too excited about Global Warming:SPOTLESS SUN
(SPACEWEATHER.COM)
The sunspot number has been zero for nine consecutive days–the longest stretch of blank suns since October 1996. This is a clear sign that solar minimum has arrived. Solar activity should remain low, although surprises are possible. Scientists track solar cycles by counting sunspots—cool planet-sized areas on the Sun where intense magnetic loops poke through the star’s visible surface.
Very few sunspots were seen on the Sun from about 1645 to 1715 (see chart below). Although the observations were not as extensive as in later years, the Sun was in fact well observed during this time and this lack of sunspots is well documented. This period of solar inactivity also corresponds to a climatic period called the “Little Ice Age” when rivers that are normally ice-free froze and snow fields remained year-round at lower altitudes. There is evidence that the Sun has had similar periods of inactivity in the more distant past. The connection between solar activity and terrestrial climate is an area of on-going research.
GW my ass!
It’s a conspiracy by the Looney Left and MOOS-lim radicals to trick us into extinction so they can take over the world.
As evidence I present: (1) The morons at PETA want to force us all to give up our fur coats and wear nothing but lightweight cotton; (2) Al Gore and his Lunatic Environwhackos are trying to throw us off with crap about “glowball warming” so we won’t see the approaching doom from a frozen world; (3) The MOOS-lims are trying to drive us out of the Middle East ’cause they know that’s the only place that won’t be frozen under a glacier in a few years; (4) The Democrats are up to something – I just know it. They’ve been too quiet lately.
“So we decided that yes, new Ron Paul-supporting comments do have a place here at RedState.”
A few who are “disgruntled Republicans” say they would back Paul but most of the “disgruntled Republicans” who are considering a third party are social conservatives which Paul definitely is not. A Paulite third party is not a real threat to the GOP. Most of Paul’s supporters have only registered Republican so that they can vote for him in the primaries. They’re really Libertarians which is what Paul should have run as in the first place as he did before.
Puppet show and winger gong show?
To the poster with all the Hillary Clinton statements:
I embrace and will fight for every single one of ‘em!
WWIII started 24 years ago this week. The Islamofascists declared war on the West on October 23 1983 when two truck bombs struck the US and French barracks in Beirut killing 241 American servicemen (220 Marines, 18 Navy personnel and 3 Army soldiers) and 58 French paratroopers.
Gotta be the full Moon…
I embrace and will fight for every single one of ‘em!
Posted by: J R
We hope more people like you do embrace Hillary. We don’t want people who can actually afford to buy a simple computer to support her.
That would constitute a real threat.
Craig Franklin of the Christian Science Monitor says that assumption comes from a national media too lazy to do any reporting on its own. He should know; he lives in Jena and his wife teaches at the high school at the center of the controversy. The media failed to learn anything from the Duke non-rape case and swallowed myths whole rather than investigate and report facts:
The reason the Jena cases have been propelled into the world spotlight is two-fold: First, because local officials did not speak publicly early on about the true events of the past year, the media simply formed their stories based on one-side’s statements – the Jena 6. Second, the media were downright lazy in their efforts to find the truth. Often, they simply reported what they’d read on blogs, which expressed only one side of the issue.
The real story of Jena and the Jena 6 is quite different from what the national media presented. It’s time to set the record straight.
So what were the myths? The whites-only tree was never white-only. The nooses were a message — to the rodeo team, and a reference to the movie Lonesome Dove, not a message to blacks. The DA threat to “black students” in fact was directed at three white girls who wouldn’t shut up during a talk to the student body. The party at which the first assault occurred was not a “whites-only” party but a private party, and the assault was just a punch to the face by someone who wasn’t a Jena HS student, not a bottle attack. The attacks had nothing to do with the nooses, which appeared briefly three months prior to the assaults.
Jackson and Sharpton really are idiots. I think they’d be more successful if they moved to Nigeria and started sending scamming emails.
That the best you got?
Yawwwwwn.
Welfare RequirementYour Urine for a Welfare CheckI work for a living. I am given a paycheck for my effort. Since I had to take a urine test in order for me to get a job that gives me a paycheck, then the people who do not have a job but who are receiving a welfare check ought to be required to do the same thing. And if they fail the test, then they should be denied benefits.
Amuse me right wing loon(s)
No more to say?
Pretty good idea.
You’ve no idea…
Al Gore certainly sang a different tune at the House Select Committee when he was asked to explain the lame 2006 hurricane season with the assertion that climate change would cause more deadly hurricanes. Not only did Gore backpedal on the assumption that global warming causes hurricanes, he even claimed that he never said such a thing or ever given anyone that impression even though the cover of his movie poster, An Inconvenient Truth, shows a smokestack blowing out a hurricane from its funnel. It is pretty hard to miss that correlation.So which is it? Does global warming cause “more” hurricanes as stated in your book and depicted on your book cover or does your testimony at Congress now take precedence of what you wrote?
Too bad Gore wasn’t under oath.In 2005, the press and Hollywood were hysterical about Hurricane Katrina since they were absolutely certain that this destructive storm could have only been spawned by global warming. Celebrities and Democrats were foaming at the mouth at the eminent destruction of our coastline from these ferocious storms that they demanded draconian legislation be enacted to prevent future disasters. In fact, even lawsuits were filed against oil companies on the assumption that they were solely responsible for Hurricane Katrina.
Of course there was no implementation of a national carbon tax in 2006 but something amazing never happened. In our supposed global warming emergency, the 2006 hurricane season barely produced any severe storms even though all the alarmists predicted that such catastrophes would become commonplace from 2005 onward. In 2006, the media became deathly silent and they even pretended that they never hyperventilated about climate change causing hurricanes. And that was why Al Gore was under the gun to sweep such allegations under the rug.
The 2007 hurricane season wasn’t exactly a lame season but it didn’t produce anywhere close to the devastation that was on the scale of Katrina. There were a few times that the alarmists got excited in 2007 but their enthusiasm quickly ended when there wasn’t enough death and destruction.
Another whopper by Al Gore:
Consider this tale of two planets. Earth and Venus are almost exactly the same size, and have almost exactly the same amount of carbon. The difference is that most of the carbon on Earth is in the ground — having been deposited there by various forms of life over the last 600 million years — and most of the carbon on Venus is in the atmosphere.
As a result, while the average temperature on Earth is a pleasant 59 degrees, the average temperature on Venus is 867 degrees. True, Venus is closer to the Sun than we are, but the fault is not in our star; Venus is three times hotter on average than Mercury, which is right next to the Sun. It’s the carbon dioxide.
July 1, 2007, New York Times Op-EdMoving Beyond Kyoto – Al Gore
Okay, so carbon dioxide causes global warming. Let’s just take a look at somewhere else. The atmosphere of the planet Mars is comprised of about 95 percent carbon dioxide yet the average temperature is -81 degrees. Mars is an extremely cold planet with an atmosphere consisting of 95 percent carbon dioxide while the Venus is a blazingly hot planet with an atmosphere containing 96 percent carbon dioxide. So again, which is it? Does CO2 make a planet unbearably hot or bitterly cold or does it do both?
And by the way, how much carbon dioxide is in our own atmosphere?
That is a question that global warming activists constantly avoid answering and many amateur environmentalists are greatly puzzled when they find out the answer. CO2 only makes up less than “half” of one percent of our atmosphere (don’t take my word for it, look it up for yourself). So even with the tremendous scale that we currently burn fossil fuels on a daily basis, the CO2 emissions barely create an imperceptible change in our atmosphere.
Every time the Nobel Peace Prize recipient invokes science, he only uses scraps of data to make erroneous assertions. As a result, there are the masses that stand in awe with gaping mouths every time the former vice-president makes dubious predictions about the imminent destruction of our planet even though such forecasts are scientifically inaccurate.
But what is interesting is that much of the scientific community makes almost no attempt to correct his obvious falsehoods. There are a few scientists who whole-heartedly support global warming alarmism that have quietly criticized Gore for some of his whoppers and questionable worst case scenarios. And some of these scientists are even embarrassed by either his blatant dishonesty or patent ignorance (some cannot decide which is which) but they are not about to rock the boat because there is a lot of government funding on the line.
It is time to hold real scientific debate about global warming instead of the half-truths and misrepresentations that is always splashed in the press. There is too much bogus science and paranoid hysteria that passes off as legitimate news and that is harmful to the scientific method and to the integrity of science.
Did you do this the whole time I was gone James? I’m sorry for you truly.
What, nothing to say? It is just lil’ ol second hand computer J R after all.
Or…is it?
Funny thing about switching nics. Anybody can be anybody. Am I just another of your insane sock puppet personalities? Am I real? Is it live or is it Memorex?
Oh and how very liberating! I could say ….anything. And I could blame it on you stealing my nic.
“Gotta be the full Moon…”
Posted by: J R
Probably so… they’re posting copy/pastes from barking-moonbat.com
John Stossel Exposes Global Warming Myths
Wednesday, October 17, 2007 8:58 PM
By: Newsmax Staff Article Font Size
“20/20” co-anchor John Stossel is going on the attack against “experts” who warn about manmade global warming – along the way berating Al Gore for saying the debate over climate change is over.
In a release from ABC previewing Stossel’s report on Friday’s “20/20,” the veteran newsman and Newsmax pundit – who won 19 Emmys exposing scammers and con artists – says:
“This week on ‘20/20′ (in our new 8 p.m. Eastern time slot) I say ‘Give Me a Break!’ to our Nobel Prize-winning Vice President.
“Mr. Gore says ‘The debate is over,’ and those who disagree with his take on global warming have been ‘purchased’ in order to create ‘the illusion of a debate.’ Nonsense. It’s as if the Vice President and his allies in the environmental movement plan to win the debate through intimidation. I interview some scientists who won’t be intimidated, even though one has had his life threatened for speaking up.
“The Vice President’s much-applauded movie, ‘An Inconvenient Truth,’ claims warming is man’s fault and a coming crisis! While the earth has certainly warmed over the last century, plenty of independent scientists say scientists cannot be sure that man caused the warming or that warming will be a crisis.
“They say the computer models that are used to predict the disasters don’t include important variables because scientists don’t fully understand them. For example, warming may cause cloud formations that reflect sun and cool the earth. The computer models cannot know. These scientists call global warming activism more of a religious movement than science.”
Gore’s film is filled with “misleading messages,” says Stossel.
“It suggests polar bears are disappearing and that ’sea levels worldwide would go up 20 feet.’ I interview children who are scared. They believe the polar bears are already going extinct and that the oceans will soon rise even higher than 20 feet, drowning them and their parents.
“But polar bear populations appear to be steady or increasing, and a 20-foot rise is a theoretical possibility that wouldn’t happen for millennia. The IPCC, the group that shared last week’s Nobel Prize with the Vice President, says in 100 years the oceans might rise 7 to 24 inches, not 20 feet. Now a British judge has ruled that British schools must disclose to students nine inaccuracies in ‘An Inconvenient Truth’ if they play the movie in class.”
Stossel said it’s “nonsense” for Gore to suggest that we can stop global warming by doing things like changing light bulbs and driving less.
“The only practical thing we can do today that would make a difference in CO2 output is to launch a major shift toward nuclear energy. But the environmental movement rarely utters the word nuclear.
“I suspect that next year’s government boondoggle will be massive spending on carbon-reducing technology.
“It reminds me of George Mason University Economics Department Chairman Don Boudreax’s suggestion that such schemes really mean ‘government seizing enormous amounts of additional power in order to embark upon schemes of social engineering – schemes whose pursuit gratifies the abstract fantasies of the theory class and, simultaneously, lines the very real pockets of politically powerful corporations, organizations, and “experts.”‘
“He is so right. The abstract fantasies of the theory class will soon send huge chunks of your money to politicians, friends, activist scientists, and politically savvy corporations.
“The debate is over? That makes me say GIVE ME A BREAK!”
“Mr. Gore says ‘The debate is over,’ and those who disagree with his take on global warming have been ‘purchased’ in order to create ‘the illusion of a debate.’ Nonsense. It’s as if the Vice President and his allies in the environmental movement plan to win the debate through intimidation.
“The Vice President’s much-applauded movie, ‘An Inconvenient Truth,’ claims warming is man’s fault and a coming crisis! While the earth has certainly warmed over the last century, plenty of independent scientists say scientists cannot be sure that man caused the warming or that warming will be a crisis.
John Glenn said things that make you think a little:
There were 39 combat related killings in Iraq in January 2005. In the fair city of Detroit there were 35 murders in the month of January. That’s just one American city, about as deadly as the entire war-torn country of Iraq that month.When some claim that President Bush shouldn’t have started this war to protect our freedom, remember the following acts that were also to protect our freedom:
FDR led us into World War II.Germany never attacked us; Japan did.From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost … an average of 112,500 per year.Truman finished that war and started one in Korea.North Korea never attacked us.From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost …an average of 18,334 per year.John F. Kennedy started the Vietnam conflict in 1962.Vietnam never attacked us.Johnson turned Vietnam into a quagmire.From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were lost ..an average of 5,800 per year.Clinton went to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent. Bosnia never attacked us.He was offered Osama bin Laden’s head on a platter three times by Sudan and did nothing. Osama has attacked us onmultiple occasions. In the years since terrorists attacked us, President Bush has liberated two countries, largely crushed the Taliban,worked diligently to cripple al-Qaida, put nuclear inspectors in Libya, Iran, and, North Korea without firing a shot, andcaptured a terrorist who slaughtered 300,000 of his own people.The Democrats, who started the acts of war above, are complaining about how long this war is taking.
ButIt took less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno to take the Branch Davidian compound in Waco. That was a 51-day operation.We’ve looked for evidence of chemical weapons in Iraq for less time than it took Hillary Clinton to find the Rose Law Firm billing records.It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the Marines to destroy the Medina Republican Guard than it took Ted Kennedy to call the police after hisOldsmobile sank at Chappaquiddick.It took less time to take Iraq than it took to count the votes in Florida!!!!Our Commander-In-Chief is doing a good job to protect our freedom from terror!This war is very difficult, but isn’t our security and freedom worth some time and sacrifice?And, the Military morale is high!The biased media hopes we are too ignorant to realize the facts.
Long day. Former second shifter not by choice, I don’t always sleep well.
I remember something a friend said once about this forum a long time ago.
She speculated that behind it all was only one or a handful of posters.
Of course, back then, she was mostly wrong. These days, at least from the right, I think she nailed it.
John Stossel, and climate science???
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/10/open-thread–21.html#comment-87637662
That was funny FEMA holding a press conference in Washington, and had all phony reporters asking questions. They shouldn’t have tried the bush strategy, and had to apologize for their decpetion.
Will Rush criticize the “phony press” like he does ‘phony soldiers’?
God Bless our American President:
“The Administration strongly supports reauthorization of the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) in a way that puts poor children first. … Because H.R. 3963 has not addressed in a meaningful way the objections that caused the President to veto H.R. 976, the President will veto this legislation if it is presented to him without significant changes.”
– Statement of Administration Policy, 10/25/07
1. The Democrats’ new legislation continues to allow States to avoid covering poor children first. The bill repeals the requirement that 95 percent of children below 200 percent of the Federal poverty level be covered before coverage is extended to children from higher income families. The Democrats’ new legislation also permits States to keep adults on the program through 2012.
God Bless our president:
2. The Democrats’ new legislation continues to cover children in families earning more than $62,000 per year (300 percent of the Federal poverty level). Proponents claim the Democrats’ new legislation caps income eligibility at 300 percent of the Federal poverty level, but the legislation would not completely close the income disregard loophole. Under this loophole, States could still enroll children in families with incomes higher than $62,000 a year by ignoring part of the family’s income. In addition, the legislation continues to grandfather New Jersey at $73,000 per year (350 percent of the Federal poverty level).
3. The Democrats’ new legislation continues to raise taxes to move 2 million children covered by private health insurance onto government-run programs with fewer choices and longer lines. Federal revenues are at an all-time high, and no tax increase of any kind is needed to finance SCHIP reauthorization. The President’s Budget offsets not only the new SCHIP spending but also proposes an additional $92 billion in mandatory savings over five years. These proposals represent more than enough to offset any additional spending in the context of the Democrats’ new bill. The new legislation also continues to fund SCHIP with a budget gimmick that would not provide stable funding and actually costs more than the earlier bill, notwithstanding supposed improvements in policy.
Just to make sure you don’t disk the president on the merits of the liberal tape-recording alone.
Nice to read another side to the story:
4. The Democrats’ new legislation continues to allow SCHIP to cover ineligible individuals. The legislation imposes no sanction if a person fraudulently attests to being a U.S. citizen. During the period of time that the State is conducting an investigation (if Social Security finds an inconsistency with the stated Social Security number), it must continue medical assistance to the applicant.
5. The Democrats’ new legislation shifts more responsibility to the Federal government. SCHIP has always been a Federal-State partnership (thus the reason for “S” in the title). The Democrats’ bill has the effect of reducing States’ financial responsibility by providing
Just learned bookmark.
Tonight’s a keeper.
JR you still lurking about? I got a hall pass to stay up late and post all night like you do. Sorry, I can’t make it that long. Old bones need to rest.
I have to earn enough money so as to pay lot’s of taxes to fund all the liberal give-away FREE MONEY programs.
Bush stopped this one. The democrats in Congress helped seal it’s death.
I’m always here “amway”.:)
Max: Universal halthcare run by a government will bring a lot of grief I feel, but universal insurance for catastrophic events should not. Let dental, eye and drug care stay in the hands of the individual because that’s where the real problem of uncontrolled rising costs lay.Posted by: sursum
I’m probably way too late to respond to this one, but why let that stop me now?
Healthcare is not an entitlement program. Does it have problems? I read about them, but haven’t had any my way. I have excellent healthcare insurance! Does it cost me? Yep. Out the you-know-what!!!
But I would not trade it for the world.
Here’s an idea: Stop the idea.Stop thinking that insurance for healthcare need cover every pill, off visit, or doctor bill. End coverage on the mundance and health maintenance programs. Like car insurance! I don’t bill my insurance everytime I change my engine oil. Why should we EXPECT insurance from ANYONE which would?
It is too much to ask from any system to cover all costs. People gotta pay. This is one time you get what you pay for. If you want the government nanny to fund it, you will have even worse problems, more inefficiencies, more paperwork, and GS employees playing god!
It ain’t broke for 253 million Americans who have coverage.
Don’t go trying to fix it.
WriterDog I read your humor on Ron Paul. I sure hope he drops and does NOT start a third party.
It will only split the ticket to the benefit of democrats.
Although I’d admit to SolB, that I don’t see a leader elsewhere on the right, I’m not for throwing away my one vote.
I thought for sure I’d get a hit on the Social Security post earlier tonight. Maybe everyone else was watching Ghost Whisperer, Women’s Murder Club, and Numbers with me?
Can’t believe democrats now feel Social Security has problems. A few months ago it was mana from heaven!
“American Way” –
There’s a truism as old as civilization itself: “Good Economics = Bad Politics. And Good Politics = Bad Economics.”
The Republic Party’s best political argument has been “No new taxes.” And it’s been a disaster for the economy.
Everybody resents taxes. That’s a given. But in politics, people can elect folks who will pander to that resentment. How ’bout we elect a bunch of people who’ll outlaw check-out counters at Wal-Mart? I hate like hell paying all that money at Wal-Mart. But eliminating the check-out counter probably wouldn’t prove to be the best business model for the company, now would it?
I hate like hell that my tax dollars are funding George WMD Bush’s war in Iraq. And I’m working like hell to change the government so my tax dollars will stop funding the killing of brown people halfway across the world. But I’m stuck in America and my taxes are the price I pay for the privilege.
The Flat Tax (even given your suggested exemptions) would most certainly ruin the housing industry. For most people, the mortgage deduction in the only tax haven they have. Business expenses and their allowed deductions affect millions of Americans.
A few years ago there was a luxury tax on yachts and private jets, and Wichita’s economy went into the toilet becaus people couldn’t write off their purchase of a Citation or Learjet. Mercedes makes a damned good car, but if you add a 14% value-added tax, I might deign to consider a Kia.
An honest Flat Tax would increase capital gains rates by 40% or so. Think all those coupon-clippers who have huge amounts of wealth are gonna contribute to candidates who advocate that?
An honest Flat Tax would eliminate donations to non-profits as deductions. Think chruches and televangelists are gonna preach for that?
As mind-blowingly complicated as IRS forms have become, I’m reminded of Winston Churchill’s observation of democracy: “It’s the worst possible system imaginable… except for all others.”
AND THE SOCK PUPPET BALLET CONTINUES TO TAKE OVER THE BLOG!! AINT IT GRAND??
“First, allowing gay marriage destroys marriage’s special place in our society.”
Damn, I knew marriage was special when I realized it was SO significant it could be entered into while DRUNK in Las Vegas in front of an Elvis impersonator who was officiating.
Special my ass…