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‘At the Poles, Melting Occurring at Alarming Rate’http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/21/AR2007102100761.html?nav=hcmodule
“For scientists, global warming is a disaster movie, its opening scenes set at the poles of Earth. The epic already has started. And it’s not fiction.”
MUCH more at link.
‘Carbon Dioxide in Atmosphere Increasing’http://apnews.myway.com/article/20071023/D8SEL2M80.html
“…Increased industrial use of fossil fuels coupled with a decline in the gas absorbed by the oceans and land were listed as causes of the increase.
“In addition to the growth of global population and wealth, we now know that significant contributions to the growth of atmospheric CO2 arise from the slowdown” of nature’s ability to take the chemical out of the air, said Canadell, director of the Global Carbon Project at the research organization.
The changes “characterize a carbon cycle that is generating stronger-than-expected and sooner-than-expected climate forcing,” the researchers report.”
And as Ben says, the Great Experiment continues…
Are we having fun now?
Question concerning a thread yesterday:If Bush declared martial law, could he suspend elections?
A disaster movie? Aren’t we getting a little carried away? It’s not like the water is going to rise in the space of time that it will drown everyone…and cities have been moved before.
And now for some good news:
BAGHDAD (Reuters) – Violence in Iraq has dropped by 70 percent since the end of June, when U.S. forces completed their build-up of 30,000 extra troops to stabilize the war-torn country, the Interior Ministry said on Monday.http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSCOL24813120071022?rpc=92
That is good news Blue Max, I expected it would fall once there was a cop on every corner. If it had not Iraq would have been far worst then anyone could imagine. Now if only we could have “success” there, the political solution is the key. Military is not the answer and never has been, it is well past time for the adults to act.
SWALLOWER….WHAT ABOUT NOLA?
Montana and Kansas Take on Big Coal
On Saturday, The Times’s business section featured two reports from unexpected parts of the country that should cheer the bipartisan coalition in the Senate that wants to move ahead quickly on legislation limiting emissions of carbon dioxide, the main global warming gas. The reports provide further evidence, if any were needed, that Congress should not listen to the coal industry’s siren call for special treatment.
One report, from Montana, described an increasingly vocal movement opposed to new coal-fired power plants on the Great Plains. The movement includes not only the usual suspects in the environmental community but also conservative and largely Republican ranchers worried about the impact of global warming on their water supply.
In addition, The Times reported that a state regulator in Kansas had denied a permit for a large coal-fired power plant because of the global warming gases it would emit. As far as anyone knows, that’s the first time that a power plant has been blocked for that reason alone.
Now it’s Washington’s turn. A Senate subcommittee will soon take up a very promising global warming bill written by Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut and John Warner of Virginia — the first step in what could be an arduous legislative journey. The bill would place a mandatory, declining cap on emissions from the electric power, manufacturing and transportation sectors of the economy. It aims to cut total emissions to 63 percent below 2005 levels by 2050, less than many scientists say is necessary but still very ambitious.
The coal industry will try very hard to weaken the bill, and it has assembled a large war chest for that purpose. Coal accounts for just over half the electricity generated in America and 30 percent of its carbon dioxide emissions. Unless ways can be found to replace coal as an energy source or to capture its emissions, the global warming game is essentially lost. More than 120 new coal-fired power plants are on the drawing boards in this country. Of those, only a small percent are likely to be equipped with technologies that could reduce emissions.
The Lieberman-Warner bill makes it clear that coal-fired power plants, new or old, will be forced to meet stiff new emissions targets just like everyone else. Dirty plants, in short, will pay heavily, as they should. That is the only way to encourage the utilities to find cleaner ways of burning coal and, even better, alternative energy sources.
Until the United States takes the lead, other big emitters — starting with China, which is building the equivalent of one large coal-fired plant every week — will feel no pressure to act.
Funny how the wingers first deny truths, like global warming, and then whithout ever admitting that g.w. exists, they start down-playing the severity of it.
Weather may be unpredictable….wingers, not so much.
To answer your question Blue Max, yes though it would take a national emergency or in this case a war.There is a provision that allows the President to suspended all elections if in his opinion it would cause a greater problem by as the saying goes “Switching horses in mid stream”. To the best of my knowledge though only Lincoln ever considered it.
Don’t worry lefties! Bush wouldn’t ever do that.
You fundamentalist radical leftist are the ones that Bill Maher shoved out of his audience last week.
Oh that was great! I love Bill Maher!
General claims Bush gave ‘marching orders’ on aggressive interrogation at Guantanamo
Nick Juliano Published: Monday October 22, 2007
New book says US uses ‘methods of the most tyrannical regimes’
More than 100,000 pages of newly released government documents to demonstrate how US military interrogators “abused, tortured or killed” scores of prisoners rounded up since Sept. 11, 2001, including some who were not even expected of having terrorist ties, according to a just-published book.
In Administration of Torture, two American Civil Liberties Union attorneys detail the findings of a years-long investigation and court battle with the administration that resulted in the release of massive amounts of data on prisoner treatment and the deaths of US-held prisoners.
“[T]he documents show unambiguously that the administration has adopted some of the methods of the most tyrannical regimes,” write Jameel Jaffer and Amrit Singh. “Documents from Guantanamo describe prisoners shackled in excruciating ’stress positions,’ held in freezing-cold cells, forcibly stripped, hooded, terrorized with military dogs, and deprived of human contact for months.”
Most of the documents on which Administration of Torture is based were obtained as a result of ongoing legal fights over a Freedom of Information Act request filed in October 2003 by the ACLU and other human rights and anti-war groups, the ACLU said in a news release.
The documents show that prisoner abuse like that found at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq was hardly the isolated incident that the Bush administration or US military claimed it was. By the time the prisoner abuse story broke in mid-2004 the Army knew of at least 62 other allegations of abuse at different prisons in Iraq and Afghanistan, the authors report.
Drawing almost exclusively from the documents, the authors say there is a stark contrast between the public statements of President Bush and then-Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and the policies those and others in the administration were advocating behind the scenes.
President Bush gave “marching orders” to Gen. Michael Dunlavey, who asked the Pentagon to approve harsher interrogation methods at Guantanamo, the general claims in documents reported in the book.
The ACLU also found that an Army investigator reported Rumsfeld was “personally involved” in overseeing the interrogation of a Guantanamo prisoner Mohammed al Qahtani. The prisoner was forced to parade naked in front of female interrogators wearing women’s underwear on his head and was led around on a leash while being forced to perform dog tricks.
“It is imperative that senior officials who authorized, endorsed, or tolerated the abuse and torture of prisoners be held accountable,” Jaffer and Singh write, “not only as a matter of elemental justice, but to ensure that the same crimes are not perpetrated again.”
>>>>There is a provision that allows the President to suspended all elections if in his opinion it would cause a greater problem<<<<<<
Rudy wanted to stop the election for Mayor after 9/11.
In two new reports, the State Department is “sharply” criticized “for poor coordination, communication, oversight and accountability involving armed security companies like Blackwater USA,” including an audit that shows “the department cannot say ’specifically what it received’ for most of the $1.2 billion it” paid to one company.
“Tuition and fees at public and private universities have risen this year at more than double the rate of inflation, with prices increasing faster at public institutions, the College Board said in reports released yesterday.” As a result, students and families are being forced to borrow more, driving up the use of private loans.
“With hundreds of thousands of families facing foreclosure in recent months, lawmakers have introduced legislation aimed at protecting consumers against predatory mortgages.” The bill, co-sponsored by Reps. Barney Frank (D-MA), Mel Watt (D-NC) and Brad Miller (D-NC) is “an update from similar legislation filed in 2005.”
After being attacked by the right wing, the Frost family refuses to back down from the fight for children’s health insurance. Yesterday, Graeme Frost’s mother, Bonnie Frost, “stood before a microphone at a Baltimore church, in a peasant shirt and clogs, to make a quiet appeal for broader health coverage in Maryland.”
Senate Judiciary Committee members accused the White House of allowing the Intelligence Committee to review warrantless surveillance documents “in return for agreeing that telecommunications companies should get immunity from lawsuits.” “There is no excuse for the administration to grant access only to those inclined to agree with it,” the Washington Post writes.
President Bush’s “weakened approval ratings” have forced him to take a “much more personal role in opposing Congress.” Bush “has made 46 veto threats during the first nine and a half months of 2007, compared to 28 such threats” during his first six years. TP’s Amanda Terkel also notes, “In his first six years, Bush vetoed just one bill. In less than one year under this new Congress, Bush has been forced to issue three.”
New poll finds that in “a 12-month period during which the Taliban insurgency spread in Afghanistan and violence rose in the country’s major cities, Afghans grew increasingly concerned about security and more people came to regard it as the most serious issue facing the nation.”
Connecticut, Pennsylvania and Washington plan to join California’s lawsuit “suing the EPA for stalling on a decision about whether to let California and 11 other states force car makers to produce cleaner vehicles.”
And finally: Montgomery Blair Sibley, the lawyer for DC Madam Deborah Jeane Palfrey, yesterday told a DC court that his client is a victim of the U.S. attorney scandal. Sibley’s exhibits included a blog post from War and Piece and an article from Legal Times, none of which even mentioned Palfrey. Sibley also quoted Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-VT), who once said that the Justice Department was “corrupted by political influence.” Leahy’s office later called Sibley “awfully wacky.”
God Bless our democrats in Congress. Their undying support for corporate greed is gratifying.
“The House’s top tax writer is calling for a cut in the corporate income-tax rate, but would replace the lost revenue with other tax changes that would hit businesses,” the Wall Street Journal (subscription) reports. Rep. Charles Rangel, D-N.Y., “chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, has drafted legislation that would trim the 35% companies now pay to between 30% and 31%, according to people familiar with the bill.”
Were you referring to me as a winger, TRACY? If so, it just shows how muddy your thinking is…
Joe Williams,
Well, the left-wing folks you live to hate are now “fundamentalists.” My goodness.
Joe Williams, you ought to publish your own dictionary, given your penchant for using words and ideas in a way that no one else acknowledges or understands.
Oh, and President Bush would ABSOLUTELY declare martial law. He’s spent the last seven years putting all the pieces in place, with the “leadership” of the Republican Party enabling him every step of the way.
swallower, NO.Why?You feel wingie?
You don’t know anything about my clarity of mind.So don’t start.Okie dokie?
Howdy CF.Give em’ hell bud.
Here is a sobering NYT Magazine article on looming permanent water shortage in the West’s largest and fastest growing states.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/21/magazine/21water-t.html?em&ex=1193284800&en=adc25155e153a757&ei=5087
This will cause what water resources we have to skyrocket in value. For example, Aurora Colorado temporarily paid some ground-water rights-holding farmers up to $12,000 acre/ ft to make up for a shortfall. It has bought Arkansas River withdrawal rights from farmers 150 miles away.
But some businessmen in Kansas think pumping Kansas’s share of the Ogallala water to run a coal-fired generator, and send the water into the sky is a sensible proposition.
There’s a new TV ad against the proposal that says the current Holcomb plant spews high levels of mercury. According to a Sierra Club report last year, Sunflower has done tests showing it can reduce mercury emissions by 90%, but the company is more likely to buy other companies’ mercury credits under a cap-and-trade law, and keep spewing the poison at full level.
Where does the mercury go? Eastward, to Kansas cities whose economies are the only thing really growing in this state.
http://kansas.sierraclub.org/Wind/Coal-MercuryFactSheet.htm
Orbital Wobbling (OW) is causing Global Warming (GW).
The real problem then is OW, not GW.
Variations in Earth’s Eccentricity of Orbit every 100,000 years as well as variations in the Earth’s Tilt every 40,000 years is directly causing the variations in Climate, causing global warming and global cooling cycles to occur.
These climate changes are widely misspeculated to be caused by Man, however these Anthropogenic Global Warming supporters have completely overlooked the primary cause, which is Orbital Wobbling.
Some have argued that Orbital Wobbling is caused by Anthropogenic forces, as human populations have grown to over 7 Billion and that human populations are not distributed in a manner which would help to balance the Earth. Similar to the way an automobile tire is balanced with lead weights, humans need to move around the Earth to the proper location in order to stop OW. Others have suggested that humans need to stop dancing around the issues, and square dancing in particular, further compound this human caused OW effect.
However, true non-politically motivated scientists know, the mass of even 7 billion humans relative to the mass of the Earth is miniscule. The mass of all the people on the earth is equal to one and a half trillionth the weight of the earth. While the number of people on the earth keeps increasing, it can be assumed that while the population may make it into the tens of billions, it will never amount to enough to noticeably affect the earth’s rotation.
Of course the cause of Orbital Wobbling is Gravity and relative temporal changes in nearby solar bodies. There is a growing body of evidence to support this most recent view, with a rapidly growing consensus among well-known reputable physicists, environmental historians, and many climate change experts.
DISHWASHERS FOR HILLARY!
Dishwashers, waiters and others whose jobs and dilapidated home addresses seem to make them unpromising targets for political fundraisers are pouring $1,000 and $2,000 contributions into Clinton’s campaign treasury. In April, a single fundraiser in an area long known for its gritty urban poverty yielded a whopping $380,000. When Sen. John F. Kerry (D-Mass.) ran for president in 2004, he received $24,000 from Chinatown.
At this point in the presidential campaign cycle, Clinton has raised more money than any candidate in history. Those dishwashers, waiters and street stall hawkers are part of the reason.
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-donors19oct19,0,4231217.story?page=1&coll=la-home-center
Your point Max?
It is in the best interests of working people to vote for Democrats.
In fact, any working person who votes for Republicans is a masochistic moron.
HILL’S CASH EYED AS CHINESE-LAUNDEREDBy CHARLES HURT in Washington and ELAINE CHAN
October 20, 2007
Hillary Clinton’s campaign has been raising huge piles of money in Chinatown, but some of it has come from donors who can’t be located or who were improperly repaid for their contributions, according to The Post and other reports.
A search of Chinatown donors yesterday by The Post found several bogus addresses and some contributions that raised eyebrows.
Shin K. Cheng is listed twice in federal records for giving $1,000 donations to Clinton’s campaign on April 17.
But the address recorded on campaign reports is a clinic for sexually transmitted diseases, hemorrhoids and skin disease.
No one at the address knew of a Shin K. Cheng.
Another donation came from a Shih Kan Chang on Canal Street. But the address listed is a shop that sells knock-off watches and other pirated goods. The sales clerk there did not know the donor.
Hsiao Yen Wang, a cook in Chinatown, is listed as giving Clinton $1,000 on April 13. Contacted yesterday, she told The Post she had written a check.
But it was on behalf of a man named David Guo, president of the Fujian American Cuisine Council, and Wang told The Post that Guo had repaid her for the $1,000 contribution.
Such “straw donations” are strictly prohibited by federal law.
In addition, yesterday’s search by The Post also turned up several $1,000 donations from Chinatown that were made by cooks, dishwashers, a cashier and a college student.
The findings closely match a report yesterday by the Los Angeles Times that found a huge number of Chinatown donations from donors listing bogus addresses or in amounts unlikely, given the donor’s occupation.The Times examined 150 donors, one-third of whose addresses could not be found. As with the Post search, most of the donors are not registered to vote.
In April, for instance, the Clinton campaign raised $380,000 from a single fund-raiser in Chinatown, the Times said. By comparison, Sen. John Kerry raised $24,000 in Chinatown during his entire campaign.
The Clinton campaign dismissed the L.A. Times story as derogatory to Chinese-Americans.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/10202007/news/nationalnews/hills_cash_eyed_as_chinese_lau.htm
Successful liftoff!!!
Godspeed Discovery!
Some things, America still does well.
Giggle . . .
This is the silliest thing yet posted, and yet it keeps coming back.
“Oh, and President Bush would ABSOLUTELY declare martial law.” -CF
See more, by JR, on yesterday’s “Four more years . . .” thread.
Bush declaring martial law to stay in power . . .
ROTFLMAO – X2!! That ranks right up there with aliens transporting Gore to Venus, and super-secret 100 mpg carbureators.
Demo/DailyKos NUTroots, indeed! BDS has kicked into overdrive; either that, or such silliness is serving some other need, like feeding an overstuffed ego.
Good God, if Lincoln didn’t consider same at the height of the Civil War, absent some massive invasion of the US, it won’t happen.
Perhaps CF & JR would like to put their money where their paranoid delusional mouths are?
Tell ya what, CF, JR; I’ll give you 5 to 1, and put up $100, right now. You in? C’mon, JR, you said it was 50/50 yesterday – If you truly believe what you write, that’s good odds!
Any other takers? Easy money, at least if CF & JR are honest, and truly believe what they say they believe . . . I got my eyes on a Garrand, and it would be a nice down payment.
Of course, it could be just more hot air . . . nah!
SURELY not!!!
JR -
SURELY you are not suggesting that dishwashers and waiters in Chinatown are REALLY giving that kind of money?
Are you . . ? [GMC70 snickers uncontrollably . . . ]
If so, I’ve got some ocean-front property to sell . . . . call me, we’ll talk.
Right GMC; declaring martial law rates right up there with Bush having a secret rendition program; incarcerating people without habeus corpus; using torture to interrogate prisoners; having a secret program to spy on Americans. BDS in overdrive, for sure! America would never allow such things.
Shrub probably doesn’t know the difference between martial law and Marshall Dillon.
But Cheney is machiavellion enough to take Dumbya hunting and blame the “accident” on terrorists.
Forgot the caveat; but even if he did, you have to remember “The World Changed afte 9/11″, so any comparisons to past presidents actions/inactions are irrelevant.
I LOVE IT! Dems attacking each other! Hillary’s defense:
You Did It Too, Edwards!
Who’s The Bigger Crook, You Are! No, You Are! No, You Are! etc…
Edwards hits Clinton campaign funds
Posted: Friday, October 19, 2007 2:33 PM by Domenico Montanaro
From NBC’s Domenico Montanaro
The Edwards campaign released a statement criticizing Clinton for her “questionable contributions” from poor residents in New York City’s Chinatown that “are raising eyebrows again,” as reported in the Los Angeles Times.
“Many of their donors are not even registered to vote,” Campaign Manager David Bonior writes, “and at least one denied even making any contribution at all.
Bonior also questions Clinton’s electability and her ability to fix a “broken” and “corrupt” system.”
“The bottom line is we need a nominee who can do two things,” Bonior writes, “campaign in all 50 states and challenge our broken system in Washington. With every day the growing question has to be can Hillary Clinton do either?”
Also, in the campaign’s continued attempt to spin Edwards’ decision to take matching funds, Bonior also questions why Clinton says public funding is the answer “to fix the system,” but she does not take public funds.
“Senator Clinton should explain why she doesn’t mean what she says,” Bonior writes.
*** UPDATE *** The Clinton campaign sends this response: “In 2004, John Edwards said, “If you are looking for the candidate that will do the best job of attacking the other Democrats, I am not your guy.” But now that his campaign has stalled, he’s become that guy. If Mr. Edwards is so concerned about campaign finance reform, he should give back the contributions he got from Geoffrey Feiger who was indicted for illegally funneling money into his campaign.
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/10/19/421035.aspx
But Cheney is machiavellion enough to take Dumbya hunting and blame the “accident” on terrorists.
Posted by: MonkeyHawk | October 23, 2007 at 10:54 AM
I can see why the Liberal Socialist Democrats want to talk about Bush and Cheney all the time.
There’s nothing good to say about the current Dem Prez candidates.
The Clinton Culture of Corruption Campaign Crisis Continues!
I take it, then Phantom, that I’ll put you down as an “in,” then. Getting closer to that Garrand all the time . . .
I want to get me one of those New Yawk “China Town” dish washin’ jobs, so I can afford to donate $1000 to political campaigns.
I mean, they must be hauling down the large coin scrubbing those pots and pans!
Oh sure Kansas, you know how many tips the dishwashers get from those NYC customers.
They are just loaded with dough!
Make more money at casino though.
Well libs who you going to blame for all the other defaulting loans? Big business again? For fooling those stupid people into signing up for loans they cannot afford, hmm?
I suppose you will expect your democrats in Congress (aka DO NOTHING DEMO’S) to pass legislation restricting banks from loaning money to dump shits?
The Financial Times is reporting that poor quarterly results from banks across the US over the past two weeks suggest credit problems once confined to high-risk mortgage borrowers are spreading across the consumer landscape,US banks have raised reserves for loan losses by at least $6 Billion over the second quarter and by even larger amounts from last year, indicating financial executives believe consumers will be increasingly unable to make payments on various consumer loans.Banks are adding to reserves not just for defaults on mortgages, but also on home equity loans, car notes and credit cards debts.“What started out merely as a subprime problem has expanded more broadly in the mortgage space and problems are getting worse at a faster pace than many had expected,” said Michael Mayo, Deutsche Bank analyst, reported the Financial Times.“On top of this, there is an uptick in auto loan problems, which may or may not be seasonal,http://news.monstersandcritics.com/usa/news/article_1367560.php/US_loan_default_problems_deepen
(”Oh it’s not the people’s fault, they were TRICKED and SWINDLED into buying that Hummer.” Even though their joint income is only 40K.)
I got the perfect lib solution for the loan defaulters:
1. FREE MONEY from Uncle Sam to pay off those loans.
2. REFINANCE the loands with Uncle Sam guaranteer.
3. GET RID OF THE FINE PRINT. All fonts for contracts increased to 25 pitch or better. Language narrowed to 1st Grade, Dr Suess reader level.
BUT BLAME BIG BUSINESS!!!!
(10-10) 04:00 PDT Washington –
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, talking on the eve of the fifth anniversary of the House vote to authorize the Iraq war, acknowledged Tuesday that the failure to end the war is hurting Democrats in Congress and lawmakers will have to take bolder action.
Well gee wiz, libs, why not VOTE NO on funding the murderous, awful, oil company driven, Bushy deceitful war?
Why continue the farce?
I thought the 51/49 majority was a reflection of “OVERWHELMING OPPOSITION TO THE WAR” by the citizens? Midterm lies?
Put your vote where your mouth is.
And they better do it fast, they can’t change the koolaid fast enough. Liberal sheep are getting confused!
Just vote NO!!!!
O.K. I have to apologize.Jim Ryun I’m sorry I voted for Nancy Boyda over you. I was mad that you didn’t do your job. You failed to pass the appropriation bills in your do nothing congress.
Now, I must say I’m sorry. Nancy lied, her democrats are zero better in congress. In fact, they may be worse. At least when you failed to act, we were better off if you went home. With the democrats, we have another WAR IN TURKEY on our hands.
My check is in the mail Jim. Baffoon Boyda had her chance.
06-30) 04:00 PDT Washington — The problem for House Speaker Nancy Pelosi isn’t just President Bush. It’s the Senate.
Pelosi sounded more apologetic than celebratory Friday when she announced with her Senate counterpart, Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada, the Democrats’ list of accomplishments six months after they seized control of Capitol Hill and promised “a new direction” in Washington.
“I’m not happy with Congress, either,” Pelosi, of San Francisco, conceded.
She pinned the blame on “the obstructionism of the Republicans in the United States Senate.”
Kansas–
You were going to observe Hank’s boycott, right?
CF, JR, strangly silent?? No takers? I’m SHOCKED!!
Of course, you wouldn’t take the last bet I offered, either. Again, shocking.
However, all is not lost; Phantom appears to be in. Who would you like to hold the bets, Phantom?
Maybe I should take this up with those rich Chinatown dishwashers . . . .
You were going to observe Hank’s boycott, right?
Posted by: CapnAmerica | October 23, 2007 at 11:40 AM
Is this you capn? I thought your posts were always underlined/linkable? Which of these new NIC’s are you posting under?
I LOVE IT! Dems attacking each other! Hillary’s defense:
You Did It Too, Edwards!
Posted by: Max
At some points, the rest of the liberal candidates have got to get into the mud. The only thing left for them is hanging in there for matching fed funds so they don’t have to retire with too little money.
Pentagon Co-opted Independent
Military Newspaper For PR Campaign Pushing Bush’s War PoliciesThe Pentagon has engaged in an aggressive U.S. grassroots efforts to drum up support for Bush’s wars in Iraq and Afghanistan in the guise of supporting the troops. A central front in this effort has been the “non-political” America Supports You (ASY) program. (One branch of ASY is Operation Straight Up, an “evangelical entertainment troupe that actively proselytizes among active-duty members of the US military.”)
As the New York Times reported in May, the Pentagon Inspector General (IG) is currently investigating whether Pentagon officials “engaged in improper fund-raising and unauthorized spending” for the program. Many Pentagon officials believe that efforts such as ASY are nothing more than “tax-payer-funded propaganda,” with a large portion of the funds going to the PR firm Susan Davis International to bolster domestic support for the war.
On Saturday, the independent military newspaper Stars and Stripes reported that it, too, is now part of the IG’s investigation. Without the knowledge of top editors, the Pentagon transferred Stars and Stripes funds to Susan Davis International for ASY promotion:
But documents obtained Friday show that Stars and Stripes awarded a $499,000 purchase agreement in July 2006 for a public relations firm to represent America Supports You. […]
One of the tasks the document outlines for Susan Davis International is to develop “[m]edia strategy, message and outreach for communications nationwide in markets and in overseas areas of military deployments and operations.”
The revelations have caused “extreme concern” among the Stars and Stripes staff, who believe they may jeopardize their legitimacy as an “editorially independent newspaper.”
The common link between Stars and Stripes and ASY is Pentagon communications official Allison Barber, who heads both ASY and American Forces Information Service, the parent organization for Stars and Stripes. As the American public has become increasingly disaffected with Bush’s war policies, Barber has had to ramp up the administration’s PR efforts.
This isn’t the first time Barber has been caught in unethical doings. In 2005, she “insisted” to reporters that questions from U.S. troops to Bush during a press conference “were not rehearsed.” Later she was caught on tape showing just the opposite — that she had “drilled through” “all six” of the questions that Bush was going to ask.
1. I’m observing the boycott until the end of the month.
2. I thought Kansas was too.
3. I don’t answer graffiti trolls.
Sorry, “just asking,” go Cheney yourself.
Marc Mukasey’s Sensitive Assignment: ‘Distance Giuliani From All Allegations About Kerik’Marc Mukasey, the son of Attorney General nominee Michael Mukasey, has been tasked by Rudy Giuliani to “to keep an eye on” former NYPD police commissioner Bernard Kerik’s criminal investigation.
Earlier this month, media reports said that federal prosecutors were prepared to file charges against Kerik “that will likely include allegations of bribery, tax fraud and obstruction of justice.” Kerik, whose nomination as homeland security secretary in 2004 ended in scandal, pleaded guilty last year to two misdemeanor charges of taking payments from the same company that is alleged to have bribed him.
Publicly, Giuliani has offered a strong defense of Kerik, recently calling him an “excellent police commissioner” and praising him for being “heroic” on 9/11. But privately, the Giuliani team is attempting to whitewash their ties with Kerik. The New York Post reports that part of Marc Mukasey’s “sensitive assignment” has been to thwart Kerik’s lawyer from interviewing witnesses who might help his defense because those witnesses are “linked to Giuliani”:
A source familiar with the Kerik probe said Mukasey’s role in monitoring the Kerik case is “obviously trying to distance Giuliani from all [the allegations about Kerik], although obviously it all occurred on Giuliani’s watch.” […]
A source said Mukasey has “made it impossible” for [Kerik's lawyer] “to interview witnesses” who work at Giuliani Partners, the consulting firm founded in 2002 by the former mayor after he left office. Kerik had been a key player in Giuliani Partners before his fall from grace.
Mukasey is “basically shutting them down,” the source said.
Marc Mukasey is currently a partner at Giuliani’s law firm where is a leader of the firm’s “Special Investigations” practice. His father, Judge Michael Mukasey, has called Giuliani a “good friend” and has pledged to recuse himself from all cases that might involve the former NYC mayor.
I was observing Capn-True Lib-Galahad-The Finger until your long post trying to tie me to other nics. What a petty and paranoid insignificant person you are.
Capn couldn’t restrain himself from posting, he has no self discipline.
Thanks for proving once again that you are a liar, a complete and utter liar, and nothing but a liar, Kansas.
I’m out for the duration.
Carry on . . .
See ya Capn Chump, you’ll be back on one of your other nics – you always are. :)
“graffitti trolls” (noun): via Capn:
1) New or infrequent posters not worthy of acknowledgement by one of Capn’s status
2) posters who dare to intrude on what Capn and crew consider their personal playground.
i.e. “The good Capn does not diegn to acknowledge graffitti trolls and peasants.”
And gosh, why should he???
See also “trolls:” via Capn: Posters who disagree with Capn.
“To begin with, those who believe the dire warnings of today’s establishment press should know, as U.S. Sen. James Inhofe has pointed out, that “for more than 100 years, journalists have quoted scientists predicting the destruction of civilization by, in alternation, either runaway heat or a new Ice Age.”
Believe it or not, over the last century America’s major media have predicted an impending global climate crisis four different times – each prediction warning that entire countries would be wiped out or that lower crop yields would mean “billions will die.” In 1895, the panic was over an imminent ice age. Later, in the late 1920s, when the earth’s surface warmed less than half a degree, the media jumped on a new threat – global warming, which continued into the late 1950s. Then in 1975, the New York Times’ headline blared, “A Major Cooling Widely Considered to Be Inevitable.” Then in 1981 it was back to global warming, with the Times quoting seven government atmospheric scientists who predicted global warming of an “almost unprecedented magnitude.”
Today, to cover all their bases, much of the press is changing its terminology from “global warming” to “climate change” or “climate catastrophe.” That way they’re covered either way: If the world gets colder, global warming is still at fault.”
Just to bring GW into prospective. It isn’t new. Has been around for years. Warnings are always out there.
Please put up a new pic.
Yes, I can confirm there is a problem with the Arctic sea ice melting – in 1905 and several times during the 1940s.
“Roald Amundsen, a Norwegian explorer who successfully navigated the Northwest Passage on August 26, 1905 (h/t Walt Bennett, Jr.).”
You know – all those SUV’s melted the sea ice back in 1905.
——————–The Canadians know that the Northwest Passage has been opened before because of melting sea ice why can’t the IPCC scientists figure it out?
“Built for the Royal Canadian Mounted Police Force to serve as a supply ship for isolated, far-flung Arctic RCMP detachments, St. Roch was also designed to serve when frozen in for the winter, as a floating detachment, with its constables mounting dog sled patrols from the ship. Between 1929 and 1939 St. Roch made three voyages to the Arctic. Between 1940 and 1942 St. Roch navigated the Northwest Passage, arriving in Halifax harbor on October 11, 1942. St. Roch was the second ship to make the passage, and the first to travel the passage from west to east. In 1944, St. Roch returned to Vancouver via the more northerly route of the Northwest Passage, making her run in 86 days. The epic voyages of St. Roch demonstrated Canadian sovereignty in the Arctic during the difficult wartime years, and extended Canadian control over its vast northern territories.”———————What a fisherman of arctic crab says about global warming.
I want to see global warming, I have not seen it yet. We have a glacier that has grown 5 miles in the last two years. In the Southeast opi fishing has not seen global warming but we’ve been waiting for it. Bring it on!———————
According to the glorious IPCC worshipers, the melting Sea Ice history only starts since 1972.
Doesn’t the IPCC ever get tired of being wrong?
All I’m saying is that bush has pushed the envelope of absurdity, there is nothing he can do that would surprise me. Disgust me, yes, surprise me, no.
What’s this about? Thompson says a life and death decision is too personal to talk about. When Kerry tried to say his combat experiences were too personal to talk about, he was attacked by the RW unrelentlessly.http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071022/ap_po/thompson_ap_interview_8
Kansas
But..but…don’t you know that the northwest passage was just a myth? ;))
I heard it here.
RE”All I’m saying is that bush has pushed the envelope of absurdity”
Hmm.. the Envelope of Absurdity– that’s better than the Culture of Corruption any day, and very accurate!
GMC70,
Of course I won’t take your bet.
We don’t agree on a basic interpretation of so many substantive things already (the lack of precedent for Bush’s theory of the Unitary Executive being the most obvious case) that it would be ludicrous to think that we’d agree as to what does and doesn’t constitute Martial Law.
Bush will implement it in a sneaky and disguised way, as he has with most of the other things he’s implemented to erode Constitutional checks and balances. And you, GMC70, with your demonstrated resistance to considering the farther-reacing implications of such claims, will deny that it is what it is.
Such a denial will seem to you like the most natural thing in the world, while it will seem to me to contravene every obvious fact. And in the absence of agreement, you’ll be able to claim that Martial Law is not in place.
Why would I take a bet in which you, by default, get to be the arbiter of what does and does not count as meeting the criterion for winning or losing the bet?
CF -
I didn’t think so. Typical.
How’s this for criteria:
George Bush holding the office of the presidency, Jan. 21, 2009.Next excuse?
“According to the glorious IPCC worshipers, the melting Sea Ice history only starts since 1972.”
Posted by: Kansas | October 23, 2007 at 12:14 PM
Chapter 4http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/wg1/wg1-report.html
“Rayner et al. (2003) compiled a data set of sea ice extent for the 20th century from available sources and accounted for the inhomogeneity between them (Figure 4.10). There is a clear indication of sustained decline in arctic ice extent since about the early 1970s, particularly in summer.”
Doesn’t Mr. “Kansas values” ever get tired of being wrong?
And I was starting to pick out a lovely spot on the wall for that Garrand. Darn it all.
and I see that Phantom chickened out too? Shocking.
Like a Pinto with a racing strip, they’re all show, no go.
Kansas–
You were going to observe Hank’s boycott, right?
Posted by: CapnAmerica | October 23, 2007 at 11:40 AM
Sorry, “just asking,” go Cheney yourself.
Posted by: CapnAmerica | October 23, 2007 at 11:47 AM
Well the REAL Capn America has stated MANY TIMES that he always signs his NIC and logs on the same. So one of the above posts is an imposter!
The Capn could NOT have made a mistake. The Capn would NEVER be inconsistent.
But one of them broke their own promise NOT to post (aka: boycott) in protest of the name calling and such.
Tish-Tish!
1. I’m observing the boycott until the end of the month.
2. I thought Kansas was too.
3. I don’t answer graffiti trolls.
Sorry, “just asking,” go Cheney yourself.
Posted by: CapnAmerica | October 23, 2007 at 11:47 AM
Capn has violated his own boycott as of 11:47 today, and again at 11:52 today.
Therefore, your own personal boycott is extended for 2 days PLUS 1 day penalty for a total of 3 days past the 10/31 original boycott end date.
Capn, you may look, but you cannot touch, at least not until YOUR boycott ends as of 12:01 am 11/4/07.
Damn Graffitti Trolls…
Well, JR, your fellow travelers have bailed. The Nutroots have shown their fidelity to their word.
That leaves you. So: You up to your word? “50/50,” I think you said it was . . .
How ’bout I sweeten the pot to 7-1?And $300, since ChickenF and Phauxantom have bailed . . .
Sorry, CF, Phantom, couldn’t resist. Just too easy a target.
;-)
But I won’t go there again, I promise.
Cosmos and Kansas, you are both wrong.
There is Global Warming, but GW is just a symptom of the real problem, which is Orbital Wobbling.
While OW is NOT caused by man, scientists are conducting studies to determine if man can help solve OW.
One approach, to move all 7 billion people on Earth to a country on the Equater, such as Congo(during the Vernal equinox or Autumnal equinox for a period of 30 days)to stabilize the OW, has been determined to be ineffective due to the lack of mass of even 7 billion people.
The most viable option appears to be using the Moon through a virtual lasso, to anchor Earth’s orbit into a more stable pattern.
Currently, experiments are being conducted to see whether a Earth/Moon knocker affect would help or hurt OW.
I’ll keep you guys posted as I hear more.
Not much press on this, for some reason.
Classes in Iowa Teach Art of the Political Primary (AP)
how candidates who finish second in the Iowa caucuses have translated that achievement into political gains.—In 1972, George McGovern finished behind Edmund Muskie in the caucuses, but the strong showing propelled McGovern toward the Democratic nomination.—In 1980, Ronald Reagan finished second to George H.W. Bush but claimed the GOP nomination. Bush eventually became Reagan’s running mate.—In 1984, Gary Hart finished a distant second to Walter Mondale, but gained momentum for a win in New Hampshire that gave Democratic nominee Mondale a scare.—In 2004, John Edwards, also a 2008 presidential candidate, finished second to John Kerry, and became Democrat Kerry’s running mate.
See how things turn out after the first of the year.
Stupid ^^ does not understand the difference between journalism and science.
Sen. James Inhofe,http://www.desmogblog.com/directory_people/jim-inhofe
While OW is NOT caused by man, scientists are conducting studies to determine if man can help solve OW.Posted by: Gladys Glacier
Hey Gladys, you been watching the mini-series Columbus on the History Channel?
I think your OW was partially responsible for Columbus finding the new world. If not for stirring toward magnetic earth, he may have ended up in South America! He didn’t know to compensate due to his position’s latitude.
It is the magnetic pole, which provides the amplification necessary for OW.
Geez, if it isnt god, guns, and gays, its global warming, with Kansas and his fake science, and Cosmos with his peer reviewed journal entries. No wonder there is a boycott!
Well GMC, leave the wager open, and if there is another 9/11, or if we pull a “pre-emptive” on Iran, we’ll talk.
“I got my eyes on a Garrand, and it would be a nice down payment.”
What is a Garrand?
“Stupid ^^ does not understand the difference between journalism and science.
Sen. James Inhofe,http://www.desmogblog.com/directory_people/jim-inhofe
Posted by: cosmos | October 23, 2007 at 01:37 PM
Stupid Cosmos doesn’t understand that scare tactics have been around for years and aren’t going away anytime soon. You know – drink coffee, don’t drink coffee, eat fats, don’t eat fats, don’t eat sugar, use sugar subs, don’t use sugar subs, use real sugar, eat eggs, don’t eat eggs, eat upto 3 eggs a week, eat real butter not that new oleo, – if you wait long enough everything we have been told by peer reviewed scientists is changed.
Cos you need to get a grip. I could exchange names with you and you would say all of my experts were wrong and discredited and I would say the same about yours.
History will tell the tale and not any arguments on this blog.
Geez, if it isnt god, guns, and gays, its global warming, with Kansas and his fake science, and Cosmos with his peer reviewed journal entries. No wonder there is a boycott!
Posted by: sugar | October 23, 2007 at 02:18 PM
Geez, if it isn’t sugar, yet another nic of one of the Lib posters who smootches on the butt of cosmos so it can win some sort of blog points.
The fake science I post comes from scientists of the IPCC and their peer reviewed papers. So sugar, I guess you are calling what cosmos writes as fake science as well.
Sugar you got that right! This used to be a good blog to have some arguments about relevant issues instead of beating the same dead horses everyday. I guess the ‘good ole days are gone’.
“Rayner et al. (2003) compiled a data set of sea ice extent for the 20th century from available sources and accounted for the inhomogeneity between them (Figure 4.10). There is a clear indication of sustained decline in arctic ice extent since about the early 1970s, particularly in summer.”
Posted by: cosmos | October 23, 2007 at 01:15 PM
According to cosmos, the climate history of the Arctic only starts since 1970.
I wonder if we can treat the rest of history that way…
Let’s see, WWII never happened, JFK is still alive, the Beatles never played a song…
How convenient to start history at a certain date.
I am not implying anything, but trying to find someone that may know more about the subject then I do.Wal-Mart has stopped the sales of firearms and today I spoke with a friend that is an assistant manager at one of the pawnshops in Wichita. He told me they were stopping the sale of Firearms too. That the BATF has an effort to force all businesses that sale firearm to stop. By placing ridiculous and unreasonable restrictions on sales and locations. In his pawnshop’s case they are within 1,000 feet of a school.
Perhaps someone who may have a class “A” firearms license might have better understand of what is going on? If Nathan reads this and since his MOS has something to do with armory officer might you know? Sadly I have not been a member of the NRA for several years and have not hear anything about the actions of BATF lately.
Fair enough, Phantom. I’ll not hold my breath.
And “question,” google it. Or ask General Patton. But it’s a lovely piece of history.
Psst: Hint – It goes bang, eight times, and then ‘ping.’
“for the 20th century” = starting in 1900.
And Phantom: in the EXTREMELY unlikely event he’d try it, I’ll be with you in the streets.
That’s always something I’ve wondered, BTW. If you really believe Bush is everything you say (Bushitler, etc., ad infinitum), WHY are you not in the streets NOW?
I suspect the answer is that the accusations are more political fodder than real threats to liberty. It’s always helpful to align your political opponents to the most negative image possible, and Nazi Germany is about as negative as you can get.
GMC, if you are able to obtain the Garrand, I’d be honored if you would let me know so I could gaze upon it. I won’t even ask to fire it, and will wear gloves if allowed to pick it up. :-)
Darn it, that should be “Garand”.
“History will tell the tale and not any arguments on this blog.”
Posted by: ^^
History has ALREADY decided.http://www.aip.org/history/climate/timeline.htm
GMC70,
I’m not a bettor. What does 5-1 even MEAN, much less 7-1?
More to the point, are we betting a) that Bush at some point imposes martial law, or b) that Bush imposes martial law as a way to suspend his departure from office? I had ‘a’ in mind above, whereas you seem to have ‘b’. So, some clarification of terms is in order.
But I’ll provisionally sign on to Phantom’s proposal above–although I’d be more likely to put my winnings toward an SKS than an M-1. Budget-conscious lefty, you understand.
Odd, not one mention of co2 as the major factor for the reason of this January being the warmest on record.
“WASHINGTON (AP) – January was a fair-weather friend. Recording the warmest January on record allowed Americans to save on their heating. But like all good things, last month’s mildness seems to have been too good to last.
The country’s average temperature for the month was 39.5 degrees Fahrenheit, 8.5 degrees above average for January, the National Climatic Data Center said Tuesday. The old record for January warmth was 37.3 degrees set in 1953.
On the other hand, while much of the United States was basking in warm weather, parts of Europe and Asia were being battered by bitter cold. Climate details for the rest of the world for January are expected to be available next week.
During the month the jet stream, a strong high-altitude wind that guides weather fronts from west to east, stayed unusually far to the north, keeping the coldest air in Canada and Alaska, the agency said.
Keeping that cold air to the north allowed mild Pacific air to moderate temperatures across the contiguous states, leading to the warm conditions.
However, the jet stream is now sliding into a more typical winter pattern, according to the Climate Prediction Center. The February outlook calls for below-normal temperatures in the mid-Atlantic, the Southeast and intermountain West, and above-normal temperatures in the Southwest, the northern Plains and Alaska.
Both centers are part of the government’s National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.
January Was America’s Warmest on Record
Feb 7 05:07 PM US/EasternBy RANDOLPH E. SCHMIDAP Science Writer
How convenient to start history at a certain date.
Posted by: Kansas | October 23, 2007 at 03:04 PM
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That is not what Cosmos stated. You are just making up nonsense now, Kansas. Pure nonsense.
Why does Kansas continually try to argue with weather reports? This is GLOBAL Warming being discussed -not national, or continental.
It is laughable to continually watch Kansas repond to “hard” science, with personal attacks and inuendo, because he cannot refute what is being posted through links to peer reviewed science literature.
Oh sugar, you mean like cosmos brings up weather reports to argue his point? :)——————————”The average temperature of the planet was 1.13 degrees above average, which trails only 1998 for the warmest January-June period on record. January-June 1998 was 1.15 degrees above average….In Moscow, temperatures on the 28th reached 91.2°F, the highest temperature recorded in May since 1891.”
Posted by: cosmos | August 06, 2007 at 10:50 AM
CF:
As I read the thread, the accusation was that Bush would use martial law to suspend his departure from office; but I’d take either definition as a bet. Martial law being defined as civil courts no longer in operation, and supplanted by military tribunals (adapted from Black’s Law Dictionary).
As to 5-1: I win, you pay $100; you win, I pay $500. Yea, I’m that confident.
Already got the SKS, thanks. The Garand (yes, 1 “r,” sorry) is the next goal. Or perhaps a K98k. Or a Nagant.
I could make some snide remark about lefties wanting a “commie” gun, but I’ll pass. And an SKS is a very useful and affordable tool; great if the zombies ever attack. ;-) Gotta love the integrated folding bayonet. Mine even has a grenade launcher; sorry, grenades not included!
I’ll have to tell you about my latest toy someday; old military rifles and history being something of a hobby. She’s a beauty. Hint: it’s Brit/Australian. Guess in one try, and I’ll lift your odds to 6-1!
sugar: got it yet? Bonus if you can tell me about the “ping.”
And Vaughn: We WILL shoot it; I want no rifle I can’t shoot. These are tools, not museum pieces; they are living history, emphasis on the living.
Sorry, that was “question,” not sugar. But you can answer if you like, sugar.
;-)
…the sound of metal ejected, hitting the ground…ping!
Also happens when I’m over tightening a widget with a wrench and it pops out and hits the ground. :)
Ah, but WHAT metal? Casings? Dead enemies helmets? Hmmmmmmm???
Besides, Kansas, I’d expect you to know. Let the other side play. We’re trying to enlighten the left here . . .
Global warming is being caused by cow gas today.
Do you know, that studies of dinosaur fossils have shown that the T-Rex and other large carnivorous species emitted huge amounts of foul and obnoxious gas, possibly containing CO as well as CO2?
Speculation is that due to the way certain species’ fossils have been found grouped together, a T-Rex fart could knock a Brachiosaurus dead from the fumes alone, at 50 meters.
Often, the T-Rex would kill it’s prey without a struggle, just through a gas attack. (And nothing has ever been worse then a T-Rex fart after he’s eaten a large plant eater like a Sauroposeidon)
Ironically, though the total gas from all Dinosaurs was estimated to be 90 to 100 times greater then the total gas farted from the population of domesticated farm animals today (cows, pigs, ostriches, llamas, etc..) the Dinosaurs likely were killed off by Global Cooling.
That’s right, the next Ice Age killed-off most of the Dinosaurs.
Only the birds, alligators, snakes, politicians, and a few lizards remain from the line of dinosaurs today.
lol Prof Merriweather. :)
T-Rex windage, the next step in climate change study. :)
sugar: got it yet? Bonus if you can tell me about the “ping.”
I know, I know. As I put my thumb in my pocket. I guess you can tell what I did the first time I used it.
GMC, good to know. I’ve had the pleasure of firing an M-1 in an earlier time, thus the offer to not ask. But, since you are that adamant, let me be the first to say it will be my pleasure (assuming, of course, that by then I can still hit a target smaller than a large house; the eyes aren’t what they used to be…).
Hud:
I hope to have that thumb (but only once), someday; if CF & JR will take me up, sooner rather than later. Regards, with some envy.
Hud, I know what you did as I likely would have done the same but for being warned by the owner first. I know what the “ping” is, too, but will keep silent, to allow the others to play.
“Facing Reality, Choice,” a FOX News documentary that will air Saturday, Oct. 27, at 9 p.m. ET on FOX News Channel, explores the abortion issue through the eyes of three women deciding whether to contract the killing of their children and suffer the appalling consequences.This documentary reportedly shows an abortion, but will surely not show a mangled, dismembered, poisoned, or beheaded baby being tossed into an incinerator, and certainly not the years of remorse, regret, and depression to follow for the parents.- – -
Candidate Ron Paul, considered by many a nutjob because of his peacenik and other odd views, managed to get across to pro-lifers by denouncing abortion, when he recounted walking in on an abortion as a medical student, when doctors removed a baby from its womb and left it crying to die alone and untouched on a table.[Live-birth abortions are now banned in federal law, though still endorsed by Democrat extremists like Obama, who voted against the state ban in the Illinois Senate.]
“We must end this war.”. . . House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), in response to President Bush’s war funding proposal, failing to realize that the USofA can only end the global war on terrorism by killing, capturing, and completely demoralizing enough terrorists to nullify their threat, or by surrendering unconditionally to them[Merely pull out the troops, and the terrorists come after you with more intensity.]- – -
“Hillary Uncensored — Banned by the Media”, a documentary presenting Hog Futures Hillary in all her unethical magnitude, is coming soon to a theater near you.[No, Michael Moore didn't make it.]See documentary pagehttp://www.ejfa.org/
That ping sound GMC was heard a lot in “Saving Private Ryan” movie.
GI’s tended not to appreciate it much as it gave their position away and their (cough) status.
Yea. But it could be used to your advantage too.
But don’t you think those eight loud bangs already gave away position? And even with that, what an advantage in combat. I’ll take the ping, thank you.
1. “Freedom of religion, does not mean Freedom from religion.”
2. “G O D is not spelled GOP”
Those were statements made recently by 2 GOP candidates at a meeting of Evangelicals I believe it was. You may have heard them I think on one of the talk shows.
Based just on those 2 statements, who(m) would you choose?
“Oh sugar, you mean like cosmos brings up weather reports to argue his point? :)”
Posted by: Kansas | October 23, 2007 at 03:50 PM
Mr. “Kansas values” posted the Moscow temperature first,http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/08/bush-leadership.html#comment-78520724
I later provided his source,http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/08/bush-leadership.html#comment-78539278
‘2007 global temperature the 2nd-warmest ever recorded’http://www.usatoday.com/weather/climate/2007-07-17-global-temperatures_N.htm
“The Earth’s temperature for the first six months of the year was the second-warmest ever recorded, government scientists reported today.”
Call me crazy —- so our troops have driven a lot of Al Qaeda out of Iraq —- where did they go? Are they on their way here?
Wasn’t there a video or audio tape released by OSB just prior to 911 that was some sort of call to arms?
ahhhhh …… duck and cover?
“HAH” –> Chris Matthewa
Good find parkay and the video on Paul is indeed intriguing!
If it pans out, “Her Royal Thighness” Clinton is in deep “doo doo” violating campaign finance law.
Mr. “Kansas values” posted the Moscow temperature first,http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/08/bush-leadership.html#co
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I see that cosmos uses the same title assignment as “sugar.”
The only two blog posters that call me “Mr. Kansas.”
Coincidence? I think not. :)
Actually Prof M, I’ve read something about the Dino-gas.
CO2 levels were indeed documented to have risen to extremely high levels just at the time the dinosaurs disappeared and the ice age arrived.
Not much for Anthropogenic caused CO2 in those days!
Likely, many secondary GW causal factors exist, which compounded the primary factor, which of course was OW.
Bush To Veto Employment Non-Discrimination ActTomorrow, the House is expected to vote on the Employment Non- Discrimination Act (ENDA). The bill, introduced by Rep. Barney Frank (D-MA), would make it illegal to fire, refuse to hire, or fail to promote employees simply based on sexual orientation.
To obtain White House support for ENDA, lawmakers compromised by exempting “small businesses, religious organizations and the uniformed members of the armed forces” from the bill. Yesterday, an article on the right-wing site WorldNetDaily revealed that White House staffers had helped craft these exemptions:
“Americans For Truth has learned that a White House official has boasted to pro-family leaders attending a private administration briefing that White House staffers were involved in the negotiations to craft expanded religious exemption language for the new ENDA bill,” according to Peter LaBarbera’s Americans For Truth organization.
After the meeting, officials refused to say whether or not the President would veto the bill. But today the White House issued a Statement of Administration Policy making clear that despite the exemption compromise, “senior advisors” will still recommend that President Bush veto the bill:
H.R. 3685 would extend existing employment-discrimination provisions of Federal law, including those in Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, to establish “a comprehensive Federal prohibition of employment discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation.” The bill raises concerns on constitutional and policy grounds, and if H.R. 3685 were presented to the President, his senior advisors would recommend that he veto the bill.
While the vast majority — nearly 90 percent — of Fortune 500 companies prohibit discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation, there are surprisingly no federal prohibitions against such discriminatory behavior. ENDA would ensure that for the first time ever, gay and lesbian employees are afforded this critical federal protection.
======================This is a bunch of crap.
While the vast majority — nearly 90 percent — of Fortune 500 companies prohibit discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation,
======================This is a bunch of crap.Posted by: poster | October 23, 2007 at 04:58 PM
Sources please. :)
Yee hah! Bush to veto ENDA!
Victory for Normal people!
Not unusual for a couple from Arkansas. Bill gets excited when Hillary gets teeth!
Hillary Clinton: Dental Surgery Evokes Romance in BillTuesday, October 23, 2007
WASHINGTON — Hillary Rodham Clinton says husband Bill often brings her romantic gifts: a giant wooden giraffe from an African trip, for example, and a Chanel watch that reminded him of teeth.
“Oh he’s so romantic,” the former first lady said in an interview for the November issue of Essence magazine. “He’s always bringing me back things from his trips.”
The watch had a bracelet made of white cubes. “I had dental surgery, and he said it reminded him of teeth,” she said.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,304537,00.html
Most interesting news all day!
Miss England told to ‘fatten up’ if she wants to win world title
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=489199&in_page_id=1770
No take on the bet there GMC.
Oh and unlike you, I am not at arms length from a computer all day. Nor do I feel the need to be at your leave if I could.
On the bet, that would be no.I’m sure 300 bucks is a lot more to me than it is to you.
I’d take it at 20 bucks on the odds. Except I won’t
Doing so would put me in the place of HOPING bush would extend his administration beyond its Constitutional limit. That and hoping for an event which would allow him to do so. All to win a bet. Not worth it. I only bet on things I WANT to happen.
Too, like you, if he does that, collecting bets will not be my first order of biz or even on my “to do” list. I’ll be otherwise occupied!
Sources please. :)
Posted by: Kansas | October 23, 2007 at 05:03 PM
http://www.hrc.org/issues/workplace/6989.htm
Ken –
I would definitely disagree with your # 1 listed above…
I would heartily agree with your # 2 listed above…
IF martial law were to be declared, it would not be just by George Bush, but rather by the Administration. I do not personally think the President is smart enough to make such a declaration, without numerous tele-prompter cards to tell him what to say, and how and when to say it.
Lou Dobbs just stated that this Administration is a fraud. I like that guys cajones.
Sugar I take back anything nice I said about you. I thought you really were tired of the same ole same ole.
I think I have solved the GW problem for you cosmos. Now we need to find a way to cap the oceans so the gases don’t enter the atmosphere.
Gas Escaping From Ocean Floor May Drive Global Warming
illustration only
by Staff WritersSanta Barbara CA (SPX) Jul 25, 2006Gas escaping from the ocean floor may provide some answers to understanding historical global warming cycles and provide information on current climate changes, according to a team of scientists at the University of California, Santa Barbara. The findings are reported in the July 20 on-line version of the scientific journal, Global Biogeochemical Cycles.
Not everyone want to be a dictator:Clinton says would cede some presidential powers 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton accused President George W. Bush in an interview published on Tuesday of a “power grab” and said she would cede some executive powers if elected.
ADVERTISEMENTClinton was not specific on what powers Bush had assumed or what she would give back in the text of an interview published on the American section of British newspaper The Guardian’s Web site.
Bush, in the months after the September 11 attacks, secretly authorized the National Security Agency to monitor phone calls and e-mails between people in the United States and suspected terrorists abroad.
The eavesdropping program was put under court supervision earlier this year, and in August the U.S. Congress temporarily expanded the government’s power to eavesdrop on foreign conversations of an individual in the United States without a court order for six months.
The powers expire in February and many lawmakers are wary of renewing them permanently as Bush wants.
Democrats have also complained about Bush’s refusal to close the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, where terrorism suspects have been held.
“Well, I think it is clear that the power grab undertaken by the Bush-Cheney administration has gone much further than any other president and has been sustained for longer,” Clinton said.
Clinton said, “There were a lot of actions that they took that were clearly beyond any power the Congress would have granted or that in my view that was inherent in the Constitution.”
She said if elected in November 2008 she would undertake a review with an eye toward giving up these powers.
“Oh absolutely,” she said. “I mean that has to be part of the review that I undertake when I get to the White House, and I intend to do that,” she said.
(To read more about the U.S. political campaign, visit Reuters “Tales from the Trail: 2008″ online
Well that makes me feel all warm and fuzzy Phantom. Hillary will give up power. Amazing! Not probable but amazing seeing as how she had her whitehouse security bar bouncer Craig Silverstone latch onto the FBI security files of all members of the congress and senate as well as many other well placed men and women in DC. Oh wait maybe this is a campaign promise so she will get elected. Yep that’s it. Well our secret are safe now.
Would those documents that Mrs. Clinton requested Public documents? Or did they need some kind of security clearance? It does make a difference, ya know!
Oh, and BTW, ^^ — I dont really give a damn what you think of me. You’re just a Graffitti Troll, so what difference does it make? You might even be one of the numerous sock puppets. So, if you dont like something I said, that’s just tough!
Why Sugar you sly ole thing you. You were puttin us on and ain’t what you seem at first glance.
Well Troll honey you just do your own research on those documents if you want to be so tetchy. It will make you feel as warm and fuzzy as I do. Just can’t wait for Hill and Bill to move back in the Whitehouse. How about you?
Idiots!
I’m wondering if Ms. Ksgrm is opposed to giving federal assistance to the victims of the California fires, because they werent properly prepared for some possible catastrophe, in the same way as she was opposed to the Frost family, and the use of federal funds for helping sick children?
Idiots!Posted by: sugar
Not nice to call Hill and Bill “Idiots”.
I’m curious if the Liberal Socialist Democrats will be DEMANDING the same Federal Money Handouts for those poor fire victims in California, as they did for the poor hurricane victims in New Orleans!
Come on Libs, step up to the plate and demand free handouts equally for all!
Comparing what is happening in California with the aftermath of hurricane Katrina is LUDICROUS.
Hint: it’s Brit/Australian. Guess in one try, and I’ll lift your odds to 6-1!
No doubt the .303 Lee-Enfield. My brother has one. My nephew uses it for hunting elk in CO.
Don’t have a Garand in the family, but Dad has a M1 carbine that fires a .30 caliber pistol round.
Oh, it’s LUDICROUS, per JR.
THAT answers THAT question.
The Feds need help only certain people, and who would that be JR?
Those people in California do NOT get Equal Protection Under the Law.
Even though more people are impacted by the fires in CA, are own JR here on the WE Blog says they get no Federal help.
Why? Because the CA people are smart enough to evacuate?
Because the leaders in Government in CA know how to handle a disaster situation better then those in New Orleans?
JR, what is your discriminating criteria for Federal Assistance?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,304276,00.html
More Than 346,000 Homes Evacuated in as Wildfires Bear Down on California
SAN DIEGO — More than 346,000 homes in San Diego have been ordered evacuated after a dozen wildfires continued their relentless assault on Southern California, displacing more than a half million people, destroying hundreds of homes and businesses, and forcing federal officials to assist firefighting efforts.
In San Diego County alone, 513,000 people have evacuated, said county spokesman Luis Monteagudo.
Libs only CARE about certain people, not all.
Libs didn’t care about Native American’s more so then anybody else.
Sigh….
Max?
You really do make this too easy.
I’m suprised better bloggers haven’t fileted you by now.
Where did I say those in California rated no assistance?
That’s right. I didn’t.
I said to compare California with New Orleans was LUDICROUS. And it is.
Qualcom stadium is not surrounded on all sides by fire. OR water. The damage is widespread but in pockets here and there.
New Orleans was obliterated and then drowned.
Put it this way.
California IS a disaster.
New Orleans was a catastrophe.
In short Max, I put a hook out.
And you jumped right into it.
Time to pack it in for the night folks, the Lib trolls are out in force once again.
Nothing will be able to be discussed with the Trollacrites around.
Max, FEMA is already handing out assistance to the fire folks in California. Havent you turned on any news in the past few days?
So, I guess they ARE handing out aide just like the did in Katrina.
Gee, man, wake up!
The evacuation is now said to be above 900,000 people. The largest number of people moved since the Civil War.
And Max, the democrats are not the ones who need to holler for assistance. Pres. Bush has already declared CA a disaster area. So did their Governator.
I am surprised that you arent hollering against giving them free federal funds, like you do with sick children that need help.
Max is a reactionary in his politics and his blogging!
“Even though more people are impacted by the fires in CA, are own JR here on the WE Blog says they get no Federal help.”
Now you better retract that Max!
I never said nor implied any such thing. The people of California will think me an absolute ghoul with the words YOU’VE put in my mouth!
That’s true Max. JR never said that.
sugar
#1 WAS Guliani
#2 was Huckabee
Since smoke from CA wildfires have surpassed 2 years worth of auto emissions from 30 million CA cars, the Governor decides not to sue the EPA, yet.
In a related story, Smokey Bear has filed a lawsuit against Governor Terminator for burning down forests, polluting the air, and causing global warming.
California delays lawsuit on car emissionsTue Oct 23, 2007 8:32pm EDT
(Reuters) – California will delay filing a lawsuit against the Environmental Protection Agency until next week due to devastating wildfires in the southern part of the state, a state official said on Tuesday.
Well since Max has already turned them against me anyway…
If you live among trees there is at least a fair chance you will be victim to this sort of thing.
Unless deliberately or accidentally set by people, fire IS a part of nature. So if you want to live out ammong nature, fire may eventually come to visit you.
And no Max I am NOT saying “They deserved it!”
If you live below sea level, the chance of of tidal surge from a Hurricane swamping your city and homes with flood waters is fairly large as well.
You know, kind of like New Orleans…
Ya know, I was thinking about the whole martial law bush bet thing.
GMC already lost. The martial law part anyway.
george signed provisions that in the event of emergency give him power over virtually….everything and everyone.
So in a way, he already HAS declared martial law provisionally.
He just needs an incident as an excuse to implement it.
Well Kansas, guess living below sea level in New Orleans is NOT the same thing as living in the trees in CA.
That risk must be different somehow.
The people in CA were smarter, and should have known better then the idiots in the Bayou.
Iran is #1, the U.S. is #2, guess it’s because they are both run by mad men..http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071023/ts_nm/power_poll_dc_2
FREE HEALTHCARE: “There is a sucker born every minute.” Hillary Clinton:
I got this from my dear friend, Sharon Manning who lives in Kansas and has friend in Canada. Her husband’s relatives live in England (which is one reason he lives here).
This was sent from Canada to a friend in theStates
I saw on the news up here in Canada where Hillary Clinton introduced her new health care plan Something similar to what we have in Canada. I also heard that Michael Moore was raving about the health care up here in Canada in his latest movie. As your friend and someone who lives with the Canada health care plan I thought I would give you some facts about this great medical plan that we have in Canada.First of all:
1) The health care plan in Canada is not free. Wepay a premium every monthof $96. for Shirley and I to be covered. Soundsgreat eh. What they don’ttell you is how much we pay in taxes to keep thehealth care system afloat.I am personally in the 55% tax bracket. Yes 55% ofmy earnings go to taxes.A large portion of that and I am not sure of theexact amount goes directlyto health care our #1 expense.
2) I would not classify what we have as health careplan, it is more like ahealth diagnosis system. You can get into to see adoctor quick enough sohe can tell you “yes indeed you are sick or youneed an operation” but now thechallenge becomes getting treated or operated on.We have waiting listsout the ying yang some as much as 2 years down theroad.3) Rather than fix what is wrong with you theusual tactic in Canada is toprescribe drugs. Have a pain here is a drug totake- not what is causing thepain and why. No time for checking you out becausemove as many patients thru as possible each hour forGovernment re-imbursement4) Many Canadians do not have a family Doctor.
5) Don’t require emergency treatment as you maywait for hours in the emergency room waiting for treatment.6) Shirley’s Dad cut his hand on a power saw a fewweeks back and it required that his hand be put in a splint – to oursurprise we had to pay $125. for a splint because it is not covered under healthcare plus we have to pay $60. for each visit for him to check it out eachweek.7) Shirley’s cousin was diagnosed with a heartblockage. Put on a waiting list Died before he could get treatment.8) Government allots so many operations per year.When that is done no more operations, unless you go to your local newspaperand plead your case and embarrass the government then money suddenlyappears.9)The Government takes great pride in telling us how much more they areincreasing the funding for health care but waiting lists never get shorter.Government just keeps throwing money at the problem but it never goes away. Butthey are good at finding new ways to tax us, but they don’t call it a taxanymore it is now a user fee.10) A friend needs an operation for a blockage in her leg but because she isa smoker they will not do it. Despite paying into the health care systemall these years. My friend is 65 years old. Now there is talk that maybe weshould not treat fat and obese people either because they are a drain on thehealth care system. Let me see now, what we want in Canada is a health caresystem for healthy people only. That should reduce our health care costs.11) Forget getting a second opinion, what you see is what you get.12) I can spend what money I have left after taxeson booze, cigarettes, junk food and anything else that could kill me butI am not allowed by law to spend my money on getting an operation I needbecause that would be jumping the queue. I must wait my turn except if I am a hockeyplayer or athlete then I can get looked at right away. Go figure! Where else in the world can youspend money to kill yourself but not allowed to spend money to get healthy.13) Oh did I mention that immigrants are covered automatically at tax payer expense having never contributed a dollar to the system and pay no premiums.14) Oh yeh we now give free needles to drug users to try and keep them healthy. Wouldn’t want a sickly druggie breaking into your house and stealing your things. But people with diabetes who pay into the health care system have to pay for their needles because it is not covered by the health care system.
I send this out not looking for sympathy but as the election looms in the States, you will be hearing more and more about universal health care down there and the advocates will be pointing to Canada. I just want to make sure thatyou hear the truth about health care up here and have some food for thought and informed questions to ask when broached with this subject.
Step wisely and don’t make the same mistakes we have.
BTW, all of Paul’s relatives live in England, and they tell the same story. Scary isn’t it?
Ummmm AmWay…. That silly letter thing has already been proven a HOAX on Snopes.com
ROFLMAO!
In other words, AmWay… It’s a fake letter!
KsGrm already tried that fake letter once last week! Ha Ha Ha! Too funny!
The homes in Cal. will be replaced by home owners insurance, if they have home owners ins. why should the govt. pass out fema money except maybe for infrastructure? If they didn’t have ins. give them a loan to rebuild.
The people in CA were smarter, and should have known better then the idiots in the Bayou.
Posted by: Wahawk | October 23, 2007 at 09:38 PM
I’m not so sure Wahawk. Californians still build homes on eroding cliffs that are subject to erosion and mudslides. Doesn’t appear to be very smart to me.
LOL
ksgrm tried that 2 weeks ago Amway.
Snopes it. And? Try and keep up?
FREE HEALTHCARE: “There is a sucker born every minute.” Hillary Clinton:
Amen. Point proven. P. T. Barnum isn’t the source either.
But you are all takers.
Say GOODBYE to Marcus Welby MD. Say Hello to Mohammed Armedi America!!!
You will get what you pay for.You will see MORE paperwork, than anyone every dreamed of seeing.
You thought the IRS was bad.
Just wait until you have Internal Health Care Service:
99999.0999999.
Get in line. And if you are over sixty: Forget it. You will NOT be served!!!!
Kansas, you think there might be a big earthquake in CA this week?
Or will the quake wait for the rainy season to maximize mudslides?
I wantttttttttttmy free Hilary health care!
I NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED IT!
I WAAAAANNNNNNNNNTTTT IT!
AND I someone ELSE should PAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY FOR IT!
Well how goes the embargo?
I mean, protest.
No I mean blockaide.
No, I think I mean, BOYCOTT?
That’s it!~I see,many,
many,
many,
many,posters are free spirits who decide for themselves when and what they will post.
Good on you!!!
You are true Americans!
Take no shit off any rank. Post how you feel.
I suppose Capn UNAmerican will try to say the WEBLOG LOST POSTERS DURING THE BOYCOTT BY GOD’S GIFT TO BLOGS (aka himself).soveryverysad.
CAUSE IT IS BULLSHIT CAPN AMERICA!!
POSTERS AND BLOGGERS AND FREEDOM OF SPEECH WILL CONTINUE:
WITHOUT YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Capn, you have violated your own boycott again.
You are now penalized 10 extra days past 10/31, so you are not allowed to post until 12:01 am on 11/10.
This is all, for now.
Why do birds,suddenly appear,everytime, I am near,
Just like you,they long to be,close to meeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
On the day that I was born,the angels got together,and decided to create a dream
come true!!!
SO they sprinkled moon dust in my hair and in my eyes so blueeeeeeeeee.
That is why,
all the guys in town,follow MEEEEEEall around.
Just like you,they long to be,close to meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
I AM THE ONE AND ONLY,I AM THE BEGINNING ANDTHE END.I CAME BEFORE THE WORDAND I AM THE WORD.
I AM CAPTAIN AMERICA!!
It IS to laugh!
Hey Pat?
Mixed and assorted nuts?
The boycott was called by:
Drum roll……….
Hank Price.
Kansas, you think there might be a big earthquake in CA this week?
Or will the quake wait for the rainy season to maximize mudslides?
Posted by: Wahawk | October 23, 2007 at 10:01 PM
Watch the owls and the wolves Wahawk, they know well in advance when a earthquake hits.
Dig the earth and note locations of earthworms near the fault lines.
Note the fibriles on tree and plant roots as they change direction in proportion to the fault line.
Place a sack of chicken entrails on your neighbors porch and there will soon be an eruption of mind and spirit which can only be resolved by guidance from the pyramidal crystal of destiny.
:)
I think you might be right Kansas.
Do NOT troll my nic James.
I do not think you are right about anything.
I am content to ignore.
Until I’m not.
I am JR.
You are J R.
Close
But no cigar.
Sorry Monica.
Well JR, you have, as the old commercial says,
“Come a long way baby! To get where you got to today!”
A handout PC,A handout spell checker,and you are now – an expert liberal poster on a well-known(in Witcheee-taw) national (in kansasssssssss) blog.
It must really really feel good.
You are NOW a bonifide contributorto society.
Yep. You are A.O.K., numbero uno in the BIG BLOG.
A reason for being.
A reason to take down that knot.Take down that rope.
And live to post another day.
There is a purpose for you under the sun. It may concentrate on your special purpose, but you havebeen given a new second life.
Live it to it’s fullest on the internet blogging.
PS: This has been a paid advertisement sponsored by the liberals on this blog.
Gotta give you a reason to live.
MOMMY!
Please help me Mommmy!
Some kid named J R is picking on me!
I would have to say alleged Canadian health probelms sound alot what goes on here>
Hey Pat?
Have another drink and tell me how you REALLY feel.
Might need your fingers on the keys instead of….well
Well pain, it’s like this.
You gotta take it all in stride,and live life to the fullest.
Go to a few Canadian websites.Go R.E.A.D what THEY are saying about their (cough, cough) FREE HEALTHCARE.
Find out what happens when you want ELECTIVE SURGERY for that hip. The one that hurts like heck everytime you MOVE????
See how long the wait is.See how MANY come south to USA for ELECTIVE SURGERY.
In fact, Canadians are praying we do NOT go to socialist medicine.
Because then they are truly screwed.
Pat, you must be talking about J R, not JR.
See, JR for me is short for Junior.
J R must be short for something else, like Jamaican Reefer or somthing like that.
If the Editors respect you, that’s not saying much for the Editors.
This is FUN! Dance puppet dance!
Three J R’s no waiting.
New depth for ya Pat, trolling my nic.
Wanna wear my undies too?
It is said that imitation is the greatest form of flattery….
And Kansas, don’t forget,
Mary Jo Kopechne.
She was screwed by Robert and Edward. (Robert’s secretary, ya know)
And JR, that is all you have.
Please note: It is the total “hits” that a website receives on a daily basis which counts.
Nothing else.
Pat? Meet James. You know him as kansas, JR, etc.
I think you two have a lot in common. Get a room.
Burn em if you got em.Circle the wagons in 60 mikes.
Well J R, no one comes close to having a larger diameter hole then you.
http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/
Smoker, we had him last week.
Can confirm target acquistion.
Ready.
I think this is a case of imposing the same standards for you that you place on me there Pat.
What DO you do here besides follow me around?
Redirect the question.
Do not answer.
Ask the same question that was asked of you.
Don’t answer the question.
It will make you look bad.
hey Pat tell met that you aren’t one of “kansas’s” sock puppets.
J R
Are YOU one of Kansas’s sock puppets?
J R
Are YOU one of Kansas’s sock puppets?
Redirect the question.
Do not answer.
Ask the same question that was asked of you.
Don’t answer the question.
It will make you look bad.
Yes well,
As much “fun” as it is fencing with drunken stalkers and insane perverts….
I think I’ll just sit at a distance and watch.
What a MESS! Sock puppets run amok! Nic Stealing like crazy! And all over some silly boycott!
Mercy sakes!
How the hell many JR’s are there on here tonite? The Real JR – You gotta get email, and get hold of CapN, and fix this problem!
Minor league stuff “sugar”
I’ve dealt with way worse. My powers and all….
Oh Capn, fix the problem, oh great lib leader!
All too easy.
Perhaps you are not as strong as WE editors thought.
OPEN THREAD BLOG COMMENT:
(ALREADY EMAILED TO KS LEGISLATORS)
I wanted to route you a copy of the email I sent to the Topeka Kansas SRS.
I am receiving letters from the Wichita Kansas SRS when they are well aware that according to UIFSA any collection responsibility is assigned to the secondary state
I believe this represents an attempt by the corrupt SG county officials to violate the law desperate to escape the criminal acts of their Court officials,the various criminal actors,and the EX.
Unfortunately for them,their wrongful acts stand as “uncontroverted fact” due to the mega page filing. I can easily now subpoena Federal government officials who have well documented the SG county corruption and unlawful acts under the color of law.
These SG county criminals dressed as government officials are clutching at straws,trying to preserve their inbred Wichita corruption. Unfortunately,any attempt by them,will only unveil the entire criminal conduct by the Kansas SRS and the various SG county players.
I will be filing with the appropriate agencies.
I think we can only expect further crimes from the officials and I would appreciate your help to deal with these diabolical criminals from this county.
We will together rout these enemies of all families & Americans. It is good I am not there so they cannot KILL me before I indict & convict them of their crimes. God indeed ALWAYS hears the voice of the afflicted!
Here is a copy of my 2nd email to the Kansas SRS dated 23 Oct 2007:
Please accept this memo for the record which will be fowarded to your Legislative personnel.
Your Wichita agency during the last year or so completed actions under the direction of your now terminated for cause attorney.
He knowingly and with malice completed actions which he knew were wrongful acts under the color of law. This Wichita trend of action is well documented in the mega page filing.
The conspiracy to defraud included other infamous Wichita players from the Court and government and the now terminated 3 wrongful actors.
Your SG office now apparently believes that they will in some guise threaten me after my overwhelming victory to devastate the criminal element of your agency by complete & utter victory.
These threats from your corrupt agency come on the heels of my recent notification to bring these criminals dressed as government officials to justice before the Topeka offices of responsibility.
The Kansas SRS in collaboration with your client did knowingly and with malice violate 42 USC 1383 & 42 USC 1385,the laws of Kansas and other States.
No amount of continuing criminal activity will change the official State & court records which amply exposes these criminal actors and offenses.
Your agency is well aware that this matter has reverted to judgement and that under UIFSA management of collections is assigned to the secondary state where I am a resident.
Your continued violations of law and Statute are the practice & procedure of your Wichita office for which you will suffer dearly when these matters appear before the Federal Court as multiple Civil Rights violations which you can & will not escape.
Your violations of US code are well documented and already in the hands of your legislators.
During the last 18 months or so a summary execution (spawned by your corrupt offices) by armed police failed and you and SG county were identified as the perpetrators of the wrongful act.
The stakes are high for your corrupt officials,disbarrment of attorneys,terminations of employment,lawsuits awards,and national press which will prove the foul and wrongful acts your agency embraces.
Your days of wrongful acts under the color of law have come to an end. I would definetly recommend that someone in your diabolical organization become familiar with the case files BEFORE you devote more personnel to failure and loss before the hands of this American and Father.
All my children from this matter have reached the age of majority over 3 years ago,and you are left with your multiple falsely sworn client,your own wrongful & unlawful acts,and the obvious intent to violate the law further in the future.
I will enjoy bringing you from the darkness of your crimes into the light of justice,and so will the Federal government,and your own legislators. Do not threaten me,you are criminals,who believe you are above the law and I CAN GUARANTEE YOU ARE NOT ABOVE THE LAW.
What the hell was that about?
OK who is off their meds???
Obviously, AmeriDAD is mad about something, enough where there is no background information to reference to know what the heck it is about.
But I guess it’s off his chest – for now. :)
Wow -
AmeriDad obviously has escaped from the asylum again. Somebody trank him, quick.
JR
I’ll note the definition of “martial law” – civil courts not operating, replaced by military tribunals. See Black’s Law Dictionary. We’re not even close to there, despite your quite predictable panic.
Which raises the Question: If you really believe Bush’s regime is all you say it is, why are you not in the streets NOW?
Answer: For the most part, your rantings are politically motivated hyperbole, not reality. And we both know it.
Finally: $20? You’re on, in spades. I’ll have to settle for a nice dinner in place of the Garand, however. Pass on my condolences to VT.
GMC–
To answer your question above, I guessed a
A British .303.
Lee-Enfield type.
Yup.
Mark III, Model 1, 1918 Lithgow manufacture. All matching serial numbers, and with a bore clean as a whistle. She’s a beaut. Can’t wait to put some .303 into Bambi.
Now – would you like a piece of that 6-1? Say $100 worth? JR and CF chickened out.
What say you? I want a Garand, and I’d appreciate you paying for it!
Psst: Hint – It goes bang, eight times, and then ‘ping.’
Posted by: GMC70 | October 23, 2007 at 03:12 PM
Ok GMC, hate to admit I don’t know the answer, and I didn’t see if anyone answered this yet.
What’s the rest of the story?
Yes you do, Max. A previous poster (Way up thread) asked “What’s a Garand?”
I have little doubt you are at least familiar enough with a Garand to ID one, and know about the “bang x8 + ping.”
If not, get thee to the history book, and the range, immediately.
Oh, I know what a Garand is. Been to enough gun shops and gun shows for that.
Never had a chance to shoot one though.
I didn’t know what that “ping” was all about.
Best guess was the action jumps back open after the last shot and you better not be leaning to far forward when that happens!
Am I close?
And now it’s time for something completely different…
Lib Dems love to do whatever France is doing.
I’m surprised our Lib Dems in Congress hasn’t proposed something like this:
France to make some migrants pass DNA testsBy Jennifer Macey
The French Government says the DNA tests will stop would-be migrants faking their papers. (Reuters: Suhaib Salem)France has adopted tough new immigration laws and migrants seeking to join their families already living in France may soon have to undergo DNA tests to prove their kinship.
The migrants will have to sit a language and values test, provide DNA to prove their family ties, and ensure that their relatives can support them financially when they first arrive in France.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/10/24/2069538.htm
Ok, it’s the clip that’s ejected after all 8 rounds are fired. Didn’t know about the ping noise.
Well, gosh Max, go shoot one! Now!
OK. The Garand put eight rounds in a small tin clip, with the rounds staggered (kind like a double stack mag in a pistol. The entire magazine “clip” was pushed down with the thumb into the open bolt, and the bolt would close on top (if you weren’t quick in removing it, the bolt would close on your thumb, thus “M-1 thumb”).
After the eighth round was fired, the metal “clip” that held them all together was ejected from the rifle, making the characteristic “ping” as it was ejected. One quirk of the M-1 was that the magazine could not be “topped off;” only when the eight rounds were fired would the clip eject and it could be reloaded.
The enemy came to recognize that ping as a sign that their adversary was empty; GI’s responded by throwing an empty clip against a rock or similar hard surfact to get a “ping” and let the enemy THINK he was empty, thus drawing him out.
My youngest (now 18), the only time we’ve actually fired one was more excited about hearing the “ping” than anything else.
OK – I overdid it, and wrote more than you ever wanted to know. But there ya go.
BTW – best way to hear the characteristic “ping?” Play the Medal of Honor/Call of Duty games, or watch Saving Private Ryan.
Can’t wait to put some .303 into Bambi.
THIS comment speaks volumes. Wow what a man you are!
Or should I say, THINK you are.
Thanks GMC70. I liked the long story version.
Yes, I must now find one to try, and thanks for the heads-up on the thumb warning!
Years ago, I knew “the gun guy” from the local gun club. He was unmarried with no kids and lived his life around guns. Collected old military rifles made all over the world, including some odd calibers that he would have to make his own ammo for.
He was always showing off his collection, though I never got to try one out, which is understandable with some of the 100+ year-old collector guns he had for show.
So, I’ve come close, but haven’t shot one – yet.
JR
Who pulled your chain?
And just what do you find objectionable? I believe I’ve read you have the occasional steak or burger; does it help soothe your fragile conscience that someone else does the dirty work of killing so you can enjoy that steak? What is the difference – aside from you get to keep your hands “clean?” Do you not understand that your purchase of that meat is directly responsible for the death to provide it?
Talk about hypocricy!
I like venison. I like the outdoors, and I enjoy shooting. Duh. Natural combination. Now if you (and your son) like to join me at the range, I’ll extend the invitation now. You might even find you like it . . . . careful, you could broaden your world view. Oh no!!!
Here you go GMC, a move dedicated to that ping sound. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9d01zAmnMY
movie too
Thanks anyway GMC..
The Bambi reference betrayed something of a self conscious machismo.
Guns and my kid? Thank you no. I’ve seen too many of those stories.
I don’t mind responsible hunters who eat what they kill and kill with discretion. SOME of them are even wonderful conservationists.
Somebody like Dick Cheney who shoots hundreds of caged birds at a time I have a lot less respect for.
Dad was gonna take me bird hunting when I was 8 or 9. In the days prior, a friend and I were plinking with a bb gun. I shot a sparrow or some little bird.
My heart sank when that little bird hit the ground. It took it a long time to die. Me in shock not thinking to end its suffering.
I decided not to go hunting.
I’ve shot guns. I fired a schmeiser MP40 when I was 10! Heh heh, I damn near killed my entire family when that gun kicked me spinning. I sorta wish I HAD killed my step grandmother. She kept dad from inheriting the MP…or anything else. I bet that gun would be worth a lot.
Deer sausage is tasty and venison roasts are dandy. Used to bag me a whitetail every year when I lived in Texas.
“I fired a schmeiser MP40″
Now I’m jealous. And yes, it would be worth a lot. And it would be legal under federal law (pre-1968), even if full-auto (but not Kansas state law).
“self conscious machismo”
What? Keep your half-baked penny-ante ignorant pseodo-psychology to yourself. It’s real easy to smear anyone who hunts as a “red-neck,” huh? Hunters could care less about your “respect;” your opinion is absolutely meaningless. You have that same blood on your hands; you just don’t take the life directly. You then have the audacity to criticize others for doing so.
Typical.
You wanna bury your head, that’s your business. But your hoplophobia is a potential hazard to those you love. I know you disagree with me on this, but I’ll say it anyway. You are an adult and you can do as you like. But in a nation with as many firearms as this one, it is irresponsible for a person to be raised without a basic understanding of the operation of a firearm, if for no other reason so they can unload one without killing themselves or others. To believe your son will never be around guns is willfully ignorant, and potentially dangerous to your son.
Does he go to other persons houses? Travel by himself? Go to social gatherings? If he doesn’t now, he will. He may at some point come into contact with a firearm. I deeply hope if that happens, he knows enough to keep himself, and others around him, safe.
More importantly, your son will make the decision or gun ownership for himself, sooner or later. It ought to he an informed one, based on facts and experience, not on irrational fears and half-assed judgments.
Bit defensive there GMC. I’ll not explore it further.
Do not assume. You know what happens when you do?
What, the country what it is and you don’t think I have a gun?I have two shotguns.
Tell ya what though GMC. Dad kept those two shotguns in a closet. Me and my little brother gut into them when mom and dad weren’t around. We’d point them at each other and pull the trigger. I’ll go you one further. We knew where the shells were. It could have ended in tragedy. So no, until my son is at least 16, he is told that if he sees a gun he is to go the other way and fast. Trust me I have checked that he does just that.