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- By Phillip Brownlee
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THE HARPER COUNTY LANDFILL WILL BE BACK IN THE NEWS AGAIN. THE KANSAS COURT OF APPEALS HAS HELD THAT THE PARTIES TO THE LAW SUITS OPPOSING THE LANDFILL DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO PRESENT THEIR ARGUMENTS TO JUDGE TERRY BULLOCK OF THE KANSAS SUPREME COURT.
Several parties are opposing the Harper County landfill … which largely provides a destination for Sedgwick County’s trash. One party opposing the landfill is Sumner County of which Wellington is county seat concerned about their drinking water. Another is a large group of citizens from southern Kansas, myself included, who contribute to a citizens’ fund to pay for the attorneys on the case who are concerned about environmental damage.
At this time, I can’t furnish the definitive legal position. However, essentially, I feel the Harper County landfill potentially damages the beautiful old Kansas always running stream, the Chikaskia River. The fabled Chikaskia River rises in springs down near the little Catholic community of St. Leo, somewhere south of Cunningham, in a jumble of old wooden beer kegs giving its water a faint trace of Budweiser and Coors. The Chikaskia then winds its way south of Wichita through Sumner County and on towards Tulsa.
The location of the landfill in northeast Harper County in a short tributary of the Chikaskia River, known locally as the Plumb Thicket tributary, is a reprehensible location due to its feeding into the Chikaskia River, a small but always running source of drinking water along its path.
A number of years ago, Sedgwick County politicians and engineers searched for and chose a site in northern Sedgwick County at a site the name of which escapes me at the moment. The site was about as good as could be found. A subsurface soil that would resist downward leaching of residue from the landfill. It was a geographically high point with minimal drainages in any direction. At that time, minimal settlement and development had occured in the area.
Unfortunately due to indecision on the part of highly paid Sedgwick County commissioners, the site wasn’t used.
But now some 250,000 tons of Sedgwick County trash/garbage that has been sent to Harper County might need to be returned to Sedgwick County depending on the outcome of the case before the Supreme Court.
NEXT CHAPTER COMING UP IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
It’s still 11:30 here, and, per our agreement (Hank, Capn, ksgrm etc.), I’m staying away until Nov 1, as a politically neutral statement against trolling, name-stealing, and wasting blog time on nasty personal attacks that have little (or nothing) to do with the subject at hand.
I have no illusions about it accomplishing anything other than, as I said, making a statement. But there you have it.
Nor do I have any interest in turning this place into an oh-so-genteel tea party (hah, right!), where no one can personally criticize anyone else, let alone (gasp!) engage in wicked satire, pet names, etc. Or even (double gasp!) uses uncouth language.
Humor, give-and-take, respect. Keeping in mind we’re all human beings, wirh real lives, idiosyncries, and feelings,in all their flawed glory (well, except for me–I was raised on the planet Tralfamadore. Smoke Moon Mist!).
It’s that simple.
And alas, I think Door King was wayyy too correct: We can sometimes take this place WAY too seriously!
And we really shouldn’t do that, especially when you consider all the other things of importance going on. I mean, c’mon: didn’t you hear about the conceptual terrorists attacking the Sears Tower?!:http://www.theonion.com/content/news/conceptual_terrorists_encase_sears
Over and out,RageTucson, Arizona11:46 p.m.
If I had to write a list of the people who adversely affect the quality of discussion on the blog, here’s who I would choose:
JR (for constantly threatening to out people like he did with CRUS_X and sort of bullying people like Kansas. Kansas used to use different names and now he doesn’t, let it go already)Kansas (for making such ridiculous arguments based on nothing and for ad-hominem attacks: example is him saying I think that the military are just a bunch of incompetent buffoons)Chas (for responding to people who attack his credentials WITH TONS OF CAPS AND EXCLAMATION POINTS!!!!!)Nathan (for provoking Chas on his credentials and for never giving me or anyone else a good answer on evolution questions except for “well the evidence COULD BE explained by a flood”)
And of course, all of the “one-shot” posters using different names, posting inflammatory comments and never to be heard from again. those guys just incite flame wars about “THAT GUY IS A NIC SWITCHER!!”
Clean up your act, guys. I’m sure all of you are nice people who I would love to meet in person, but it’s not fun to read a blog that’s dominated by a few people out for blood.
“Kansas (for making such ridiculous arguments based on nothing and for ad-hominem attacks: example is him saying I think that the military are just a bunch of incompetent buffoons).”
Sorry, Tara, you are incorrect. The poor maligned Kansas is always wronged by mean others who are out to get him. Haven’t you read your emails?
WBYGlad to see that you’re contributing to the discussion /sarcasm.
i don’t discriminate, I hate everybody :)
We’ll see how the boycott works out. I suspect the Right Wingnuts will still check in and be so upset by the truth they’ll post with sock-puppet nics.
It won’t take a rocket surgeon or a brain scientist to see through the fake nics.
Pratt County would be a great place for Sedgwick County’s trash.
Putting ME first on the list?
Sorry ya feel that way Tara. Truly.
Kind of a doubled on itself list you got there. I can’t mess with the bad actors if they don’t act bad. In fact your list makes so little sense, I’m really not too shook up at all. What, did you have a pity thing for CrusaderX?
Monkey
Got another boycott going? Who’s whining this time?
That would be Hank, Heckler.
Clarification:
I did not mean to imply that Monkeyhawk was Hank.
Your whiner and initiater of the “boycott” is Hank Price.
As no cons respected the Dem boycott or the reasons for it, I cannot imagine any Dems or anyone else respecting Hank’s boycott which seems to have no reason other than his.
SIRNAK, Turkey – Dozens of Turkish military vehicles loaded with soldiers and heavy weapons rumbled toward the Iraq border on Monday after an ambush by rebel Kurds that killed 12 soldiers and left eight missing.
ADVERTISEMENTThe guerrilla ambush on Sunday outraged an already frustrated public. Demonstrations erupted across the country and opposition leaders called for an immediate strike against rebel bases in Iraq, despite appeals for restraint from Iraq, the U.S. and European leaders.
Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said he told Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice in a telephone conversation on Sunday night that Turkey expected “speedy steps from the U.S.” in cracking down on Kurdish rebels and that Rice asked “for a few days” from him.
Huh. What do ya do when your “allies” fight?
And the mess that bush made continues to evolve….
To me it’s a waste of time to confront others personally when they post something others disagree with. I refuse to read the back and forth insults when they have no subtance other than insults, defensiveness, and attacks.The whole purpose of the blog is to discuss and exchange ideas and opinions…that’s how we learn and grow as people, by keeping an open mind and trying to respect another’s point of view, no matter how ridculous it seems sometimes.To me, it’s a mirror to the world today..and the fact that some can’t stay on target and get distracted by the defensiveness they feel when another can’t agree is so true to how things are today. Few people try to actually put themselves into the place of another to see the world through different eyes. Just like Bush…it’s all about an agenda and to hell with what the detractors think or say, even the ones who actually know what they’re talking about.It’s sad that a great idea like this blog gets so muddied down by those who are insecure and feel threatened by others who don’t agree with their views and feel the need to attack with putdowns, insults, namecalling, etc.
I’m sorry if I’ve offended anyone, I honestly try not to do that, but if I have, then I truely apologize for it.
Mary your post certainly does not offend me, my sentiments echo yours.
I often enjoy reading informative posts by those with viewpoints different from my own. In fact, several times, I have learned things from other posters on here that have inclined me to change my viewpoints on some issues.
There is a “boycot” going on here? Its hard to imagine any right winger toeing a picket line. Thats too close to organized labor, and we all know how much they hate that. I am not going to sit here and apologize and feel guilty over a few neo cons that choose not to participate. If people stayed intellectually honest, and did not point to silly things that happened almost a decade ago ie; Bill Clinton and Monica, to justify their assinine arguments today, this blog maybe much different. When this is used to justify today’s administrations ill advised actions, it simply “dumbs down” the entire argument. Neo cons feel left out and hurt by the abadonment of their government. They feel used and tossed aside. They have misplaced thier anger not at those that they elected, but to anyone that opposes their narrow minded way of looking at things. You want to “boycot”, great! You want to take your ball and go home….great! Do us all a favor and stay home next election day. Boycot that. We will all be better off for it.
Here’s a weird story.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071021/ap_on_re_us/yale_justice_thomas
I think that says more about thomas than anything else I’ve read.
And in the entire article? NOTHING links his problems with affirmative action.
He’s just a cranky old pervert who thinks the world should fall at his feet and kiss his ass. I think being a supreme makes it kinda hard to put that 15cent sticker on his degree.
Without that degree? heheheeh. He’d still be clerking somewhere if he had gone to Thurgood Marshall School of Law in Houston.
What a piece of work. Very representative of bushco I and II appointments.
Quality and capability go out the door when the only issue is abortion. And we think robers and alito will be just fine?
hehehehehehheheheheheeheheh……
Except it’s no laughing matter.
ksfarmgrrl,
Indeed. The resentment, self-pity and grandiosity are breathtaking. Just breathtaking.
As is the self-deception. I mean, HELLO?!? Justice Thomas–you’re sitting on the SUPREME COURT and you want anyone to feel sorry that you weren’t deluged with interviews? And you want us to think that the interview which eventually came from John Danfort WOULD HAVE if you weren’t a graduate of Yale Law?
As for ‘robers,’ I like that, ksfarmgrrl. Nice typo.
Perhaps if thomas hadnt thrown his lot in with his wingnut masters, he would have been treated better?
And others of the same race in his class had NO trouble finding a job?
heheheheh. So much for the party of “personal responsibility”.
I am watching Michael Chertoff on Cspan, he is talking about how homeland security is working to prevent an attack here in the U.S. of a IED. He is still using the threat of a “dirty bomb” and how the effect would cause mass causalities. The problem? He apparently has not read the results of his own government agencies. The CDC,Nuclear determined that the explosion would distribute the radioactive materials so sparsely that the real danger is the explosion and not directly from the material.
“The main danger from a dirty bomb is from the explosion, which can cause serious injuries and property damage. The radioactive materials used in a dirty bomb would probably not create enough radiation exposure to cause immediate serious illness, except to those people who are very close to the blast site. However, the radioactive dust and smoke spread farther away could be dangerous to health if it is inhaled. Because people cannot see, smell, feel, or taste radiation, you should take immediate steps to protect yourself and your loved ones.United_States_Department_of_EnergyA test explosion and subsequent calculations done by the found that assuming nothing is done to clean up the affected area and everyone stays in the affected area for one year, the radiation exposure would be “fairly high”, but not fatal. Recent analysis of the Chernobyl accident fallout confirms this, showing that the effect on many people in the surrounding area, although not those in close proximity, was almost negligible.
Chertoff also stressed the importance of citizens being aware and reporting any one or anything that is suspicious. That we should all be watching the people around us for any suspicious activities.
Over blown threats, spying on one another, reminded me… Just who is the threat to the American way of life again?
Obama Should Repudiate and Cancel His Gay Bash Tour, and Do It Now
“Democratic Presidential candidate Barack Obama ripped a page straight from the Bush campaign playbook with his announced upcoming three date barnstorm tour through South Carolina with notorious gay basher, gospel singer Donnie McClurkin.
The Grammy winning black gospel singer’s last effort on the political scene was his song and shill for Bush’s reelection at the Republican National Convention in 2004.
Obama has hitched his string to McClurkin’s high flying gay bash kite in part out of religious belief (he purports to be somewhat of an evangelical), in bigger part because he’s falling further and further behind Hillary Clinton with the black vote in South Carolina and everywhere else, and in the biggest part of all because he hopes that what worked for Bush’s reelection will work for him.
Enter McClurkin. He’s black, he’s popular, and gospel plays big with blacks in South Carolina, especially black evangelicals, and many of them openly and even more of them quietly loathe gays.
Bush masterfully tapped that homophobic sentiment in 2000 in part with McClurkin and even more masterfully in 2004 again with McClurkin and the top gun mega black preachers in Ohio and Florida.
He tapped it so masterfully that Bush’s naked pander to gay bashing with the GOP spawned anti-gay marriage initiative in Ohio did much to win over a big chunk of black evangelical leaning voter to Bush.
In fact, the great untold story of the 2004 presidential elections was the black evangelical vote.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/earl-ofari-hutchinson/oba...
Good article MPS. It does say alot about Thomas. A lot of self hatred in the man. JUST the sort to fall in with the right wing.
Does this lady nail these people or what? She must be the reincarnation of Sinclair Lewis.
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Weekly Faithiness Watch: Values Voter Summit
10/22/2007 9:38 AM
Susan_Jacoby
I tried to resist. Really, I did. Citing the statements of candidates at the Values Voter Summit as examples of faithiness is rather like hunting and shooting quail with clipped wings. But it was too temping, this weekend gathering in Washington where all of the Republican candidates tripped over one another in an effort to pander to the Christian Right. Is there anything candidates won’t say in an effort to win the hearts and minds of irrational religious fanatics?
Rudy Giuliani: He did admit that “I find myself too often failing to reach the ideals of my religious and moral beliefs, I don’t easily proclaim myself as the best example of faith.” But he went on to say that “my belief in God and reliance on his guidance is at the core of who I am…Isn’t it better that I tell you what I really believe, instead of pretending to change all my positions to fit the prevailing winds?” Give Rudy high marks for his jab at Mitt Romney, who has in fact done a 180-degree turn on issues of abortion and gay rights. Give Rudy a failing grade for his coded messages that, even though he personally favors keeping abortion legal, he will appoint “strict constructionist” judges who might just overturn Roe v. Wade. Personally, he’s
pro-choice but in his public role, he’ll appoint judges eager to re-criminalize abortion.
Fred Thompson: The worst. He tried to erase that fact that when he ran for the Senate in Tennessee in 1994, he publicly stated that abortion should always be legal in the first trimester. He changed his mind, he said, when he saw the sonogram of his daughter, now age 3. “I can only say that after the first time in my life of seeing the sonogram of my own child, I will never think the same exactly [about abortion] again,” Thompson said. What would he have thought if the sonogram showed a fetus with, say, no brain—a rare and horrendous condition in which a mother with no access to legal abortion would have to carry the pregnancy to term, only to have the baby die immediately?
Mitt Romney: He has been “pro-family” on every level, because he’s been married to the same woman for 38 years and has five children and ten grandchildren. He had one policy on “values issues” as a candidate for governor of Massachusetts and has another as a candidate seeking Republican base votes this year. Not even a jaw that looks like it ought to be chiseled on Mt. Rushmore can erase his real record. Maybe Rudy could sell himself as being even more “pro-family” because he’s had so many marriages.
No wonder that so many of these candidates could be indicted for perjury if they were in a court of law instead of on the campaign trail. Quotes from many participants in the Values Voter Summit are instructive: it’s impossible to imagine how anyone could be faithy enough to please them. “The ultimate child abuse is placing a child in a gay home,” said Jennifer Giroux of Citizens for Community Values. Really? What about placing children in heterosexual foster homes where two parents (a man and a woman, so that’s all right) starve them and beat them? Added Alan Sears of the Alliance Defense Fund (what alliance?), “The homosexual agenda and [freedom of] religion are on a collision course. They know they must silence the church.” (Which church?)
Will there ever be a candidate with the courage to say to these far-right fundamentalists, “You’re bigoted, irrational religious fanatics, and if I have to cozy up to you to be elected, well, I’d rather be right than president.”?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/community/groups/index.html?plckForumPage=ForumDiscussion&plckDiscussionId=Cat%3aa70e3396-6663-4a8d-ba19-e44939d3c44fForum%3a7cceb09e-a8ae-44b4-b7af-92605cbce240Discussion%3aab81b805-31ca-4c5a-b99c-4e2d84ced264**********Now, back to observing the boycott.
WHAT?ANOTHER BOYCOTT?Why was I not informed.You know I love to boycott weblog.See what I get for not participating over here?I don’t get to participate in non-participation.
DAMN. I hate being left out, when there’s some serious non-participation going on.HELL. That’s where all the action is. HA!
Hi Tara.I see it’s busy-ness as youjewel here.
Somebody email Hank, and ask if I can not participate too.I wood, but that wood be participating.
MORINING FARMGIRL!How’s it hangin?
Hello Steven, glad to see you’re still kicken’ (purple chicken).at least a couple of normal folks left here.
Steven, the answer to your question is YES.Joe Biden.
Hank goes away Tracy comes back?
I’ll take that trade. Hey Tracy.
Howdy JR.For the first time in MONTHS I have a little time to bloggie, for today at least.
Yeah, I joined Hank’s boycott unilaterally, covertly and preemptively.
It’s pretty calm over at my little bloggie spot. Still get plenty of conversation, just nobody wants to do flame wars and other dumb stuff.
It’s more like some neighbors talking over the backyard fence, or at least that’s my redneck description of it.
Stop by and check it out anytime, you don’t have to be a member or sign up for anything, I think.
I hope you dad is as well as can be hoped for Tracy. It’s good to see ya.
This blog begs for your snarkiness.
It’s all I can do to keep up deflating stuffed shirts and swolen egos!
Okay JR.This bloggie make me snarky.Others, not so much.A word from Uncle Joe:
The question for those who reject this plan is simple: what is your alternative?
A Five Point Plan for Iraq
1. Establish One Iraq, with Three Regions
Federalize Iraq in accordance with its constitution by establishing three largely autonomous regions – Shiite, Sunni and Kurd — with a strong but limited central government in Baghdad
Put the central government in charge of truly common interests: border defense, foreign policy, oil production and revenues
Form regional governments — Kurd, Sunni and Shiite — responsible for administering their own regions2. Share Oil Revenues
Gain agreement for the federal solution from the Sunni Arabs by guaranteeing them 20 percent of all present and future oil revenues — an amount roughly proportional to their size — which would make their region economically viable
Empower the central government to set national oil policy and distribute the revenues, which would attract needed foreign investment and reinforce each community’s interest in keeping Iraq intact and protecting the oil infrastructure
3. Convene International Conference, Enforce Regional Non-Aggression Pact
Convene with the U.N. a regional security conference where Iraq’s neighbors, including Iran, pledge to support Iraq’s power sharing agreement and respect Iraq’s borders
Engage Iraq’s neighbors directly to overcome their suspicions and focus their efforts on stabilizing Iraq, not undermining it
Create a standing Contact Group, to include the major powers, that would engage Iraq’s neighbors and enforce their commitments
4. Responsibly Drawdown US Troops
Direct U.S. military commanders to develop a plan to withdraw and re-deploy almost all U.S. forces from Iraq by the summer of 2008
Maintain in or near Iraq a small residual force — perhaps 20,000 troops — to strike any concentration of terrorists, help keep Iraq’s neighbors honest and train its security forces
5. Increase Reconstruction Assistance and Create a Jobs Program
Provide more reconstruction assistance, conditioned on the protection of minority and women’s rights and the establishment of a jobs program to give Iraqi youth an alternative to the militia and criminal gangs
Insist that other countries take the lead in funding reconstruction by making good on old commitments and providing new ones — especially the oil-rich Arab Gulf countries.
Iread over there a few times Tracy.
It wouldn’t let me comment.
It called me SPAM! or I think the wording was “your comment is suspected as possible spam and will not be published”
Good folk over there though. I miss Julie and Linda and Wendy and others.
Sonds like a plan re:Iraq Tracy.
Gotta get different folk to get it going though.
The current plan for Iraq is keep rearranging the fragments.
I don’t know about the spam issue, sorry. It doesn’t let me have any control over who comments, cantact Dave Shuck at instspot.About Dad, read below.I’m going to lunch.
A humble Phillips accepts LCC honorA humble Phillips accepts LCC honor
By Colleen SurridgeParsons SunIt was a couple hours before he was expected on center stage at the Carnegie Arts Center, but Arvon Phillips had already donned his tuxedo shirt and slacks.Using the plastic stem near his mouth, he maneuvered his sip and puff chair that has been a part of his life for 12 years to the living room.Although he would be before a crowd of community and friends in a short while to be honored as this year’s Labette Community College Cardinal Citee, he makes time for company.”People have always been an important part of my life,” he said.However, he admits, he is not much on large crowds. He enjoys the more intimate company of friends in his home, and invites them to stop by anytime, as he is most always home.He has pondered the night before him, and his being chosen to receive the Cardinal Citation Distinguished Service Award, an honor bestowed on 34 others before him for their outstanding lifetime contributions to the college, their career fields and to their communities.”I pulled up the list and looked at the names of all the people that received this before me, and I wondered how I placed among them,” Phillips said.All of them had many accomplishments and an unselfish dedication to their communities. And Phillips does as well. But, he said, he did not reach those accomplishments alone and his dedication was simply offering back what had been given to him.Born in the country, two miles north of Bartlett, to a farming family, Phillips would know difficult times at a young age, and what it meant to have the support of a community.His family moved to Oswego for a time and then bought a farm in Angola.”And that is where our mother died. I was a sixth-grader,” he said. “We stayed on the farm two more years and Dad sold out. Basically, since the summer of 1948, all of us – my three sisters and six brothers – were actually from that time on were kind of on our own.”I’d usually go to Western Kansas every summer to work and make it through the next year. I lived with farmers. That’s all I knew at the time,” he said. “It was not as difficult as it could have been because of older brothers and sisters and friends.”Many of those friends were teachers, such as Irene Nevins who taught the 21 students in the one-room school house in Angola.”She was so professional, but she was more than a teacher and I always stayed close to her. She just recently passed away,” he said. “The tragedy of her life was she married in the early 40s and in the first part of World War II, she had only been married a couple of years and her husband got shipped to Germany. He was there a very short time and got captured. He spent over four years in a German prisoner of war camp, and when the war was over, he got on a plane to fly home and it crashed and killed him.”Mrs. Nevins and her husband had never had the chance to have children of her own, and all those children in the one-room school house she treated as her own.”That’s why I think she was such an extraordinary lady. She always put other people first,” Phillips said. “Then in high school, the teachers were always understanding. They knew my situation. And then in juco, there were some great people – Coach Wallace Swanson, Max Schiefelbusch and Lorene Bailey … and even Mr. Thiebaud, the president of the college at the time. Those people always went above and beyond.”In my early work years, at that time, I did not realize those that I had been around had influenced me that much, until much later,” he said.
Phillips sipped on the white stem and tipped is chair back, and continued sharing his story between puffs of oxygen delivered to him every five seconds.After Labette Community College, he went on to attend Pittsburg State University for two years, before serving in the military for three years. When he finished, he attended Washburn University and worked as a recreation therapist for the Kansas Neurological Institute. From there, he began working as director of recreation commissions in Kansas and Missouri, but most notably, he served the Parsons community as recreation and parks director nearly 40 years.During those years, his son, Tracy said, his dad was in the mix of it all.”He wasn’t unapproachable,” Tracy said. “He’d be in there and beat kids at ping pong or whoop ‘em in racquet ball. One guy thought Dad was going to throw him out because he didn’t have a pass. Dad took him in the office, and gave him a pass. That’s the kind of guy he was. There are so many people that have approached me over the years and told me stories about how they appreciated and respected him.”Phillips’ work for parks and recreation came to an end when a fall from a roof paralyzed him in October 1994, and the community he had given to was there for him and his wife, Bernice.”I’m not sure I could have survived this without Bernice and my close friends,” he said. “I think it’s a great community. It’s been good to us. I’ve lived in other small communities and I’ve lived in large communities and all those in between, from Boston to California. I enjoyed my time in those places, but this is always a place that I have always felt comfortable.”And, he said, it is the place with the people that are most responsible for contributing to who he became through the years, and the person he is today.He humbly accepted the Cardinal Citee award just hours later Thursday night before a crowd offering him a standing ovation.”A lot of what I am is what I learned from a lot of you,” he told the crowd. “I don’t know that there is anyone present that didn’t contribute something to my good life.”More on Phillips’ life and contributions to his community is online (http://www.labette.cc.ks.us/pubrel/press_releases/press.htm).
It’s all I can do to keep up deflating stuffed shirts and swolen egos!
Posted by: J R
It’s the only thing you post. In fact, I believe it is the only reason your NIC exists.
You are the match for any flame.
TracyAs much as I like your plan for Iraq a couple questions come to mind.
1. Who is going to then occupy the 593 million dollar embassy that we are building? Its about the same size as the Vatican.
2. Who in the political scene is going to embrace this plan? No call for more bullets or missles? Defense contractors will be none to pleased with this proposal.
3. Where is the “fear” factor in this plan? Only plans with great “fear” factors are to be considered. The right will not accept this plan unless it provides provisions for attacking Iran.
Just a little sarcasm. Your plan makes too much sense for our leaders to embrace it. I do however see it as brilliant and logical. Those two things have no place in Washington.
Fort Campbell soldier from Kansas dies in NashvilleThe Associated PressFORT CAMPBELL, Ky. –A Fort Campbell soldier from Kansas died last Friday in Nashville, Tenn., but a military official says the cause of his death is unknown.
Army Pvt. John M. Marlnee, 22, of Leon, Kan., was a petroleum supply specialist assigned to the 305th Quartermaster Company, 101st Sustainment Brigade, 101st Airborne Division.He joined the Army in February 2007 and arrived at Fort Campbell in September 2007.Fort Campbell spokeswoman Cathy Gramling said his death is under investigation. Gramling said soldiers from Fort Campbell typically do not need special approval to travel to Nashville, about 50 miles to the southeast.******I work with a relative of this soldier, what he has told us is one of those shocking stories that pulls at my heart. It seems his relative was on leave after finishing some advanced training, he and some of his “buddies” he went to Nashville and while there met some girls. His buddies told authorities that the last they had seen of Marlee was he was passed out in a motel room. He was later found died in another motel room, the toxicology report has not yet been released. But he was drugged and his buddies are under investigation for murder. One of the women has stated Marlee had told them that he had received part of his signing bonus of seven thousand dollars that day. They were killing him to get the money but were not aware the money had been directly deposited into his sister’s account.
To add insult to injury, these same buddies came to the soldiers parent’s home and accept their hospitality.
When they came to attend the fallen soldier’s funeral with some of the others from Marlee’s unit.
I want to remind everyone, these soldiers have yet to be charged with any thing. The investigation is still going on, I thought if anyone noticed anything on this sad event you might repost it here. I did a search and only found this item.
I did a search and only found this item.
Posted by: writerdog
That might be because generally speaking, shi- happens. People abuse drugs and die everyday.
Or maybe you meant the angle that someone murdered this young person for his “money”. (ho-hum)That wouldn’t be newsworthy either.
Well J.R. It is a given that Turkey will not attack to defend its soverignity from 3000 PPk across the border,UNLESS that damn Pelosi comes up with anoter Armenian genocide resolution. Isn’t it comforting the way the RW mind works
” per our agreement (Hank, Capn, ksgrm etc.), I’m staying away until Nov 1, as a politically neutral statement against trolling, name-stealing, and wasting blog time on nasty personal attacks that have little (or nothing) to do with the subject at hand.”…That is so funny.
I was just reading CapnAmerica’s post:
Pat –
Why don’t you get good and drunk as usual and play with your guns?
Some decent people could use your organs, especially since you’re not doing anything with them.
Posted by: CapnAmerica | October 20, 2007 at 06:17 PM
Where is Capn?
Capn is boycotting the WE Blog.
He’s protesting all the personal attack posts that are truly hateful and not constructive.
Therefore he is protesting himself. Protesting his own posts by not posting. (Sorta like a union-owned company going on strike against itself!)
Mike you are correct in the fact that that is a “pretty good plan”.
I cannot take credit.That is Joe Biden’s plan.
I prefer Joe’s rhetoric above the others, so naturally he will lose.
I believe he would be good economically also.He’ll never get elected because he will not cop to this moronic notion that cutting taxes for the wealthy is good for the country, therefore good for all us po’ folks.
He’s the only one I see that is the same on stage and off.
Blackwater gets around paying ss and medicare:http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071022/pl_nm/iraq_usa_blackwater_congress_dc_1;_ylt=AnXmsDBXOXr7drz6pZ9H4OxlM3wV
“Pratt County would be a great place for Sedgwick County’s trash.
Posted by: Joe Williams | October 22, 2007 at 07:26 AM ”
Why not deal with it properly in Sedgwick County? Just more evidence of Joe!’s irrational hatred of Pratt.
Or maybe you meant the angle that someone murdered this young person for his “money”. (ho-hum)That wouldn’t be newsworthy either.Posted by: Clark Kent |
And is that not the sadness statement of a nation you may ever hear? I am glad that at least for now it is not the rule of this country. Else why would you want to defend such a nation?
It is the rule for this country. You don’t even hear or read about murder stories anymore unless there is something unusual about them. Did you read about all these? Or post the details on a blog:
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2006/offenses/expanded_information/data/shrtable_02.html
You will have to answer the question on why defend such a nation all by yourself. It takes a special person to enlist or take an oath in service to our country. I really doubt there is someone out there who decided not to serve – because there are too many murders in our country.
Yay! No Capn till 1 Nov… Perhaps I can make a comment without getting attacked. :)
Yeah Clark. You sign up and you are guaranteed to see action. There is alot of things in this country that are not defensible. Hell look at New Orleans. Theres a feel good story that we should all hold up high as one of our greatest successes. Maybe if we got our priorities straight and stopped meddling around the world as if it was our god given right, we wouldn’t need to invade countries that posed no threat to us. Therefore, we wouldn’t need to spend 500 billion dollars in a foreign country. We would not need to debate the S-chip bill. We wouldn’t have to debate whether we did the right thing in New Orleans. If Bush left us with the debt we have now, and spent that money at home….he would have a 30% approval rating instead of 14%.
And btw, our soldiers sign up to defend an idea. Of how great America used to be. If we had to build our history all over again, starting today, how would it go? Would we be able to make the compromises our forefathers did? Would we make the same mistakes along the way? Or would we look like the Iraqis, squabbling at every turn? Fighting for power and control.
If Bush left us with the debt we have now, and spent that money at home….he would have a 30% approval rating instead of 14%.
Posted by: Mike | October 22, 2007 at 01:49 PM
Mike, you are on a roll.
Do you suppose Congress would be higher than 9%?
And btw, our soldiers sign up to defend an idea. Of how great America used to be. Posted by: Mike
Now that might of been your motivation Mike. But it wasn’t mine. And I certainly can tell you it wasn’t a whole bunch of others reason for joining. Here is my unscientific research into why my fellow military people joined up:
1. Get the GI Bill2. Travel/See the world3. Get job training (learn a skill)4. Money5. Learn to fight like Bruce Lee6. Get out of cowtown
Marine Lance Cpl. Jeremy Burris, 22, was killed on October 8 by an explosive in Iraq during his act of heroism, having rescued two soldiers wounded by a preceding explosion before dying while retrieving sensitive equipment. He was buried with honors in Cooke Memorial Cemetery in Liberty, TX, with a turnout of over one thousand. People closed businesses and schools and took off of jury duty during the funeral.Within hours, the flags, flowers, notes, and posters on his grave were ripped apart and scattered.The town is angry. So are decent, patriotic Americans everywhere.Perhaps angry enough to take action against the anti-American subversives who did this.Fortunately, their vitriolic vandalism cannot detract from a brave soldier’s legacy of freedom.
Mike, I think would still debate the SCHIP bill because it was simply too much money. Heck, Medicare and Medicaid are expect to double in costs in the next twenty years and that will be a huge tax burden if we don’t do something about them.
5. Learn to fight like Bruce Lee6. Get out of cowtown
Posted by: Clark Kent | October 22, 2007 at 01:58 PM
Not everyone becomes a ground pounder Clark Kent. There are different services that do different jobs (Navy, Coast Guard, Air Force)
Gee, “Kansas” –
Maybe if we took the profit out of the health insurance scam, we could save some money.
A story like that requires a link parkay. Til then, I call bs.
10 weeks in Iraq can cover the children on the S-chip program for 1 year. Where is our priorities? We used to invest in our future, now we are paranoid dillusional worrying about the boogey man that wears a turban. How bout the 500 billion already spent? How many kids can we cover and for that amount of money? Why are you not up in arms about the 550 million dollar embassy that we are building in Iraq? Seems like we are only fiscally conscience when it fits our beliefs.
Gee, “Kansas” –
Maybe if we took the profit out of the health insurance scam, we could save some money.
Posted by: MonkeyHawk | October 22, 2007 at 02:11 PM
Perhaps that’s one way of doing it, perhaps not.
There are “Medicaid Runners” that do nothing but round up people and drive them to a clinic so they can later split the profits with the Doctors involved.
I think the Insurance companies need to be more tightly regulated, just not sure how to do it.
One thing is for sure, Medicare and Medicaid is going to eat our national revenue in one big gulp if we don’t do anything about them.
There are different services that do different jobs (Navy, Coast Guard, Air Force)
Posted by: Kansas | October 22, 2007 at 02:06 PM
Remember, I said this was a scientific survey based upon MY experience? I know you were in the TWA airlines outfit. Did the air force even press those blue trousers before they took them off the rack at Walmart?
Anyway, my results aren’t a work of art like Cosmos on the theory of global warming.
Taken from PatriotPost.US
Reid and his ‘buddies get eviscerated.
“The new epitome for turning lemons into lemonade goes to talk show giant Rush Limbaugh. In the frothy wake of the perpetual acrimonious partisan spitting match between left and right, Limbaugh has eviscerated his petty mean spirited critics AND gifted a worthy charity with a financial windfall. The New Jersey-based Marine Corps-Law Enforcement Foundation, a charity that gives scholarship money to the children of service members killed in war or in public duty, will receive $4.2 million… The record setting e-Bay sale of a two-page letter (plus two additional pages of autographs) from Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to Clear Channel Communications CEO Mark Mays ripping Limbaugh, was bought by DC philanthropist Betty Brown Casey for $2.1 million and was matched in kind by Limbaugh… Forty-one myopic partisan Democratic senators signed the letter (which they knew was a lie), demonstrating both their picayune pettiness and massive mob myopia. Rush said, ‘It got this kind of money because it represents one of the most outrageous abuses of federal power in modern American history, and that is what makes it a collector’s item. This letter that Senator Reid wrote will forever memorialize him as a demagogue.’… Contrast Congress with Betty Brown Casey and Rush Limbaugh and the variance is significant. Rush gets an ‘Attaboy’… Dingy Harry and his mean spirited minions get a wilted raspberry. More importantly, The Marine Corps-Law Enforcement Foundation gets $4.2-Million.” —Geoff Metcalf
FROM THE LEFT:
Harry Reid tried to take credit for the $4.2 million donated to The Marine Corps-Law Enforcement Foundation.Here’s Reid:
“When I spoke to Mark May [sic—Mays], he and I thought this probably wouldn’t make much money—a letter, written by Democrat Senators, complaining about something…[T]he [final] bid [was] more than two million for this… Never did we think that this letter would bring money of this nature… I don’t know what we could do more important than helping to ensure that children of our fallen soldiers and police officers who have fallen in the line of duty have the opportunity for their children to have a good education.” —Sen. Harry Reid taking credit for raising the money.
Excuse me but what an ASS this guy is, along with his 40 some cronies!
If I was a Nevada constituent I would be even more embarrassed than I am as a U.S. citizen.
One thing is for sure, Medicare and Medicaid is going to eat our national revenue in one big gulp if we don’t do anything about them.Posted by: Kansas | October 22, 2007 at 02:17 PM
What’s wrong with you Kansas? Don’t you know the liberal solution? THROW MORE MONEY AT THEM……
It’s the democrat way…..
10 weeks in Iraq can cover the children on the S-chip program for 1 year.
This message will be broadcast and rebroadcast over and over again, until further notice.
Next talking point will be routed in a similar manner.
No need to think. We will think for you, and you can’t think anyway. (And don’t think you can!)
You can’t afford me!
Purse wide open and empty, but you can vote for
Has Hillary said one way or the other if she is going to go after this guy? Bushy couldn’t do it.
(CNN) — Al-Jazeera broadcast Monday an audio message purportedly from al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden calling on al Qaeda and other groups in Iraq to unify their forces and speak with one voice, that of the Islamic nation
10 weeks in Iraq can cover the children on the S-chip program for 1 year.
This message will be broadcast and rebroadcast over and over again, until further notice.
Next talking point will be routed in a similar manner.
No need to think. We will think for you, and you can’t think anyway. (And don’t think you can!)
Posted by: Dem Talking Points Alert | October 22, 2007 at 02:37 PM
This program will help people….evil. When the right stays on point….watch out! Your phone will soon be tapped. Your son will get shipped off to some god foresaken place. Torture is ok. The Bill of Rights will be suspended. The debt will be at an all time high. Fast food jobs will be classified as manufatturing. Gays will be sent to thrown out of the country. Blacks will watch their homes be blown away and they will get put on a school bus to somewhere. Gas will be 3.00 a gallon. Milk will be 5.00 a gallon. Guantamo Bay will be a prison for people that have not been charged with a crime….simply labeled as terrorists. We will honor the 3,000 Americans killed on 9-11 by squandering the lives of 4,000 military personell, and 75,000 Iraqis. Mame another 100,000. Talking points are evil. Just depends on which end of the gun you are looking at.
I wonder if our Fed. govt. has ever ranked so low, I’m talking all three branches.
This is funny as hell http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFmqZVUG7Mw
Heh! So much for Hank’s boycott. I see the “pledges” for that fraternity have already broken their vows…
You will die laughing:
http://www.thepiratescove.us/?p=3145
Wow, massive amounts of arm flailing by the Libs today. :D
Here’s the link to the Houston Chronicle story on the desecration of Marine Lance Cpl. Jeremy Burris’ grave. With photo.See news pagehttp://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/metro/5231727.html
“Heh! So much for Hank’s boycott. I see the “pledges” for that fraternity have already broken their vows…
Posted by: ksfarmgrrl | October 22, 2007 at 04:22 PM”
Perhaps the impending paddlings and ‘animal husbandry’ drove them off?
Republican Reps. Benjamin Hodge, of Overland Park; Mike Kiegerl, of Olathe, and Rob Olson, of Olathe, sent a letter Monday to AG Paul Morrison, demanding that he and his staff make no more negative comments about the criminal case against Planned Parenthood’s suspect Overland Park abortion mill, insisting that the enforcement of Kansas laws ought to be a top priority.- – -
The botched abortion death of Laura Hope Smith in Hyannis, MA has finally been reported Sunday – five weeks late – in a secular newspaper, The Cape Cod Times.Pro-abortion journalists are betraying a public trust in not reporting on a threat to public health.See news pagehttp://www.christiannewswire.com/news/948144555.htmland pagehttp://www.capecodonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071021/NEWS/710210357/-1/NEWS01- – -
46% of American workers participate in employer-sponsored health-care plans that subsidize abortion.Many have no choice in the matter, other than to seek costly private health insurance. Abortion coverage should be opt-in, requiring higher premiums.
“Here’s the link to the Houston Chronicle story on the desecration of Marine Lance Cpl. Jeremy Burris’ grave. With photo.See news pagehttp://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/metro/5231727.html
Posted by: parkay | October 22, 2007 at 04:56 PM ”
Sounds like something the Phelps’ would enjoy doing.
Some stupid GORACLE quotes, almost the same as stupid pet tricks.Oct. 25 2000 JACKSON, Tenn. (Reuters) — Criticizing Bush’s Social Security privatization plan at a rally in Tennessee, Gore said, “He is proposing to privatize a big part of Social Security and he’s proposing to take $1 trillion, a million billion dollars out of the Social Security trust fund and give it as a tax incentive to young workers.”A trillion is one thousand billion, not a million billion.
“A zebra does not change its spots.” – Al Gore, attacking President George Bush in 1992.
Maybe Michael Jordan hasn’t made an indelible impression on everyone outside Chicago. Speaking at a D.C. function, Vice President
Al Gore, wowed by the Bulls, said: “I tell you that Michael Jackson is unbelievable, isn’t he. He’s just unbelievable.”( Source: The Chicago Tribune June 17, 1998 )
“Abortion coverage should be opt-in, requiring higher premiums.
Posted by: parkay | October 22, 2007 at 05:00 PM”
Yeah, right.
I should get to opt-in on paying taxes that fund abstinence only sex-education too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushism
“A Bushism is any of a number of peculiar words, phrases, pronunciations, malapropisms, semantic or linguistic errors and gaffes that have occurred in the public speaking of United States President George W. Bush and, before that, of his father George H. W. Bush. The term (a neologism) has become part of popular folklore, and is the basis of a number of websites and published books. It is often used to caricature the two presidents.”
Links to Bushisms at bottom of Wiki page, or buy the books. :)
“Anyway, my results aren’t a work of art like Cosmos on the theory of global warming.”
Posted by: Clark Kent
I just post the science.
But Kansas’ posts re global warming are a “work of art”… or more accurately, science FICTION.
You da man cosmos.
Fun stuff bush has given us with his misadventure in Iraq. Turkey and Iraq I mean.
Your ally is about to invade your client state. What do you do?
What DO you do?
Michael Jackson made an indelible mark on the entirety of the NBA. He was a once in a lifetime phenomenon, whether in Chicago, or in Washington, D.C. He then went on to be a part owner of the Washington Wizards, after his retirement, and even played one season with the Wizards.
I think Kansas used the wrong quote to try to prove something wrong about Gore, on the Michael Jordan quote.
But Kansas’ posts re global warming are a “work of art”… or more accurately, science FICTION.
Posted by: cosmos | October 22, 2007 at 06:14 PM
You mean the direct quotes from the IPCC on what the Climate Models cannot include cosmos? Which, by the way is about half of nature that affects climate.
I agree cosmos, your global warming alarmism is science fiction as it uses computer models to “predict” (cough) when half of all natural data is not even included.
If anyone on here really wants to know the truth about Valarie Plame told by the reporter who printed the first story turn to Fox news. It will be on after the break.
Someone used “truth” and “Fox News” in the same sentence.
Now that’s the funniest thing I’ve heard all day.
The better word is “truthiness”
Political mom what is it about the truth that scares libs so much? Fox is the most watched news show on television – are you and a few lib friends the only ones right and the rest of the world wrong? Novak had a very good interview and told the truth about the Plame/Wilson debacle. Sorry you missed it.
Kansas,
No, I mean your posts like these, which have zero credible science.
“Earth’s axis rotation and solar activity has more to do with the arctic melting than co2. The albedo of poles are more susceptible to axis shift, thus more melting.”
Posted by: Kansas
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/09/polar-bears-fac.html#comment-82636247
“Me? I’m going with the 98 percent variable of natural climate change as the cause.”
Posted by: Kansas
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/09/polar-bears-fac.html#comment-82664655
And the climate models do a good job on temperature hindcasting.http://environment.newscientist.com/data/images/ns/cms/dn11649/dn11649-1_688.jpg
The largest errors in predicting future climate will probably come from unknown future natural changes — lowered CO2 uptake in oceans, more rapid Arctic sea ice loss, GHG’s from thawing permafrost, etc.
Hind casting? I doubt seriously if hindcasting will tell us anything about future climate will it?
The only thing it can tell us, is that computer scientists can “kludge” the numbers to get the results they want. Keep switching numbers and excluding entire data sets is a sure fire way to “cook the books” on just about anything.
Heck, with some creative accounting, I can show that my bank account has had tens of millions of dollars in the past. Doesn’t mean it ever happened.
Kansas, who very falsely claims, with zero supporting science…
“Earth’s axis rotation and solar activity has more to do with the arctic melting than co2. The albedo of poles are more susceptible to axis shift, thus more melting.”
“Me? I’m going with the 98 percent variable of natural climate change as the cause.”
also claims that all of the different climate models “”kludge” the numbers to get the results they want”.
That’s an amazing conspiracy theory Kansas.
also claims that all of the different climate models “”kludge” the numbers to get the results they want”.
That’s an amazing conspiracy theory Kansas.
Posted by: cosmos | October 22, 2007 at 10:27 PM
Not a conspiracy cosmos, it comes directly from your treasured IPCC reports that the computer models exclude ENSO, clouds, water vapor and rain data from their models.
Ummm regarding my remarks upthread… That is Michael Jordan not Jackson…. Duhh!!
Ummm regarding my remarks upthread… That is Michael Jordan not Jackson…. Duhh!!
Posted by: sugar | October 22, 2007 at 11:05 PM
lol sugar! :)
Looks like the socalled boycott is working! Hee Hee
Well, I got the Jordan part right in the second paragraph…
However, even though Gore was thinking about Michael Jordan, when he said Jackson. His statement – “Michael Jackson is just unbelievable” – is a valid comment – Jackson really is unbelievable!
Hi James….er, I mean “kansas”
I THOUGHT you were boycotting. I distictly rememver reading that.
I could go get it. I could go get lots of things!
“Not a conspiracy cosmos, it comes directly from your treasured IPCC reports that the computer models exclude ENSO, clouds, water vapor and rain data from their models.”
Posted by: Kansas | October 22, 2007 at 10:56 PM
“The only thing it can tell us, is that computer scientists can “kludge” the numbers to get the results they want. Keep switching numbers and excluding entire data sets is a sure fire way to “cook the books” on just about anything.”
Posted by: Kansas | October 22, 2007 at 09:08 PM
So Kansas, it wasn’t a “conspiracy”, just an odd coincedence?
You accused all the scientists, with all the different climate models, of doing this.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&defl=en&q=define:Kludge&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title
Kansas said that computer models exclude water vapor from their models.
1) If they did, they’d get a quick “ice age”! :)
2) ‘Increase In Atmospheric Moisture Tied To Human Activities’http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/09/070918090803.htm
Three men – a Canadian farmer, Osama bin Laden and a Texan are all working together one day.
They come across a lantern and a Genie pops out of it.
“I will give each on you one wish, which is three wishes in total”, says the Genie.
The Canadian says, “I am a farmer and my son will also farm. I want the land to be forever fertile in Canada.”
POOF! With the blink of the Genie’s eye, the land in Canada was forever fertile for farming.
Osama was amazed, so he said, “I want a wall around Afghanistan, Palestine, Iraq and Iran so that no infidels, Americans or Canadians can come in our our precious land.”
POOF! Again, with the blink of the Genie’s eye, there was a huge wall around those countries.
The Texan says,”I am very curious. Please tell me more about this wall.”
The Genie explains, “Well, it’s about 5,000 feet high, 5oo feet thick and completely surrounds the country. Nothing can get in or out; it’s virtually impenetrable.”
The Texan sits down, cracks a beer, smiles, and says, “Fill it with water.”
I pretty much vote this my favorite war joke of the year!
Save it cosmos. I’m thinking “kansas” won’t be back this evening.
He’s working up his farewell performance. Or trying to avoid it.
Please note Phillip, posts are down to about 1/2 of the usual. If we could get he who shall not be named and cosmos to get a room, they would be down more than that.
The sound of wind blowing and crickets chirping… Night all.
Back to the boycott.
Why bag on cosmos “night”?
He brings only facts.
“Why bag on cosmos “night”?
“He brings only facts.”
Could be, but arguing with a troll only brings b.s, deception, and wasted space.
Sorry, it is not worth it.
I’m thnking I know you “night”.
I know what I’m doing.
Good night kansas. I’ll see you soon. Unless I don’t.
cosmos does not understand the references from which his own scientists like Dr. Gavin Schimdt stand on clouds and cycle of water vapor.
Here’s a portion of a chapter that Gavin Schmidt recommended for reading and it is quoted:
“If the structure or area coverage of clouds change with the climate, they have the potential to provide a very large feedback and either greatly increase or decrease the response of the climate to human-caused forcing. At this time both the magnitude and sign of cloud feedback effects on the global mean response to human forcing are uncertain.”
Not only that but the Global Climate Models (GCMs) do not account for the more than 500ppm co2 swing DAILY in the tropics where water vapor and cloud interaction or much more active than any place in the world.
There has little to zero data accumulated on the effects of co2 data at night when co-align with water vapor data the the micro-electrical formations and deformations of clouds during night time hours.
One of cosmos’s heroes, Dr. Gavin Schmidt readily admits ignorance on the effect of Cloud Micro Physics and thusly no data is put into the GCM’s.
Such omissions such as air/temperature fluctuations and cloud physics completely absent from GCM, indicate a large scale failure of the models to conclude anything but inaccuracy.
Without knowing what the largest contributor of climate feedback (clouds, water vapor, rain, micro-electrical activity and photosynthesis)I find it utterly ridiculous that a computerized climate model can only predict when it will end running its program.
And that’s about the only accuracy a GCM minus important observational data can conclude. It can’t conclude climate changes because it leaves out huge amounts of information necessary to draw conclusions.
Global Warming Alarmism is a ridiculous premature unscientific conclusion and hoax made on man kind.
that should read 100ppm swing…
He’s working up his farewell performance. Or trying to avoid it.
Posted by: J R | October 22, 2007 at 11:41 PM
What makes you think that J R?
Why did you call me James? I’m not that person that everyone claims I am. Or do you Phillip Brownlee to have more or those posts deleted?
Keep causing him more work J R and I’m sure he will be happy to delete you from the blog entirely.
Kansas, who claims that HE represents “Kansas values”, very falsely claimed, with zero supporting science…
“Earth’s axis rotation and solar activity has more to do with the arctic melting than co2. The albedo of poles are more susceptible to axis shift, thus more melting.”
“Me? I’m going with the 98 percent variable of natural climate change as the cause.”
Mr. “Kansas values” also claims that all of the different climate models “”kludge” the numbers to get the results they want”.
6 April 2005 (OLD!)’Water vapour: feedback or forcing?’http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=142
“To be sure there are still some lingering uncertainties….However, given the Pinatubo results, the models are probably getting the broader picture reasonably correct.”
Above RC post written by Dr. Gavin A. Schmidt,http://www.giss.nasa.gov/~gavin/
reasonably correct as compared to what cosmos? compared to another flawed computer model?
“Here’s a portion of a chapter that Dr. Gavin Schmidt, NASA, IPCC Member recommended for reading and it is quoted:
“If the structure or area coverage of clouds change with the climate, they have the potential to provide a very large feedback and either greatly increase or decrease the response of the climate to human-caused forcing. At this time both the magnitude and sign of cloud feedback effects on the global mean response to human forcing are uncertain.”
The largest factor in Climate Science and the Global Climate Alarmists can’t account for any of it in their Global Climate Models.
Yet, they want us to “trust” them.
“At this time both the magnitude and sign of cloud feedback effects on the global mean response to human forcing are uncertain.”======================
Uncertain, perhaps… but he does not say non-existant
J R,
Sadly, Mr. “Kansas values” (who seems to rely only on books printed in 2003 ?) does not know enough about climate science to realize that he is making a complete fool of himself.
An appropriate quote, re Mr. “Kansas values”.
“It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so.” Mark Twain
From Al Gore’s movie ‘An Inconvenient Truth’, and book (pg 20).
un·cer·tain (un s?rt?’n)
adjective
1.1. not surely or certainly known; questionable; problematic2. not sure or certain in knowledge; doubtful2. not definite or determined; vague3. liable to vary or change; not dependable or reliable4. not steady or constant; varying
If these climatologists can write a computer program that so accurately predicts the future from only 30 years of “reasonably” solid data, then they should be able to take the last 30 drawings from powerball and write a program that accurately predicts all the numbers from here on out…after all, there are far less variables to account for in such a program…
not true swallow… powerball numbers are not dependent on the previous drawn number, in the way that the data of the climatologists is dependent on previously determined data..
OPEN THREAD BLOG COMMENT:
(ALREADY EMAILED TO KS LEGISLATORS)
I wanted to route you a copy of the email I sent to the Topeka Kansas SRS.
I am receiving letters from the Wichita Kansas SRS when they are well aware that according to UIFSA any collection responsibility is assigned to the secondary state
I believe this represents an attempt by the corrupt SG county officials to violate the law desperate to escape the criminal acts of their Court officials,the various criminal actors,and the EX.
Unfortunately for them,their wrongful acts stand as “uncontroverted fact” due to the mega page filing. I can easily now subpoena Federal government officials who have well documented the SG county corruption and unlawful acts under the color of law.
These SG county criminals dressed as government officials are clutching at straws,trying to preserve their inbred Wichita corruption. Unfortunately,any attempt by them,will only unveil the entire criminal conduct by the Kansas SRS and the various SG county players.
I will be filing with the appropriate agencies.
I think we can only expect further crimes from the officials and I would appreciate your help to deal with these diabolical criminals from this county.
We will together rout these enemies of all families & Americans. It is good I am not there so they cannot KILL me before I indict & convict them of their crimes. God indeed ALWAYS hears the voice of the afflicted!
Here is a copy of my 2nd email to the Kansas SRS dated 23 Oct 2007:
Please accept this memo for the record which will be fowarded to your Legislative personnel.
Your Wichita agency during the last year or so completed actions under the direction of your now terminated for cause attorney.
He knowingly and with malice completed actions which he knew were wrongful acts under the color of law. This Wichita trend of action is well documented in the mega page filing.
The conspiracy to defraud included other infamous Wichita players from the Court and government and the now terminated 3 wrongful actors.
Your SG office now apparently believes that they will in some guise threaten me after my overwhelming victory to devastate the criminal element of your agency by complete & utter victory.
These threats from your corrupt agency come on the heels of my recent notification to bring these criminals dressed as government officials to justice before the Topeka offices of responsibility.
The Kansas SRS in collaboration with your client did knowingly and with malice violate 42 USC 1383 & 42 USC 1385,the laws of Kansas and other States.
No amount of continuing criminal activity will change the official State & court records which amply exposes these criminal actors and offenses.
Your agency is well aware that this matter has reverted to judgement and that under UIFSA management of collections is assigned to the secondary state where I am a resident.
Your continued violations of law and Statute are the practice & procedure of your Wichita office for which you will suffer dearly when these matters appear before the Federal Court as multiple Civil Rights violations which you can & will not escape.
Your violations of US code are well documented and already in the hands of your legislators.
During the last 18 months or so a summary execution (spawned by your corrupt offices) by armed police failed and you and SG county were identified as the perpetrators of the wrongful act.
The stakes are high for your corrupt officials,disbarrment of attorneys,terminations of employment,lawsuits awards,and national press which will prove the foul and wrongful acts your agency embraces.
Your days of wrongful acts under the color of law have come to an end. I would definetly recommend that someone in your diabolical organization become familiar with the case files BEFORE you devote more personnel to failure and loss before the hands of this American and Father.
All my children from this matter have reached the age of majority over 3 years ago,and you are left with your multiple falsely sworn client,your own wrongful & unlawful acts,and the obvious intent to violate the law further in the future.
I will enjoy bringing you from the darkness of your crimes into the light of justice,and so will the Federal government,and your own legislators. Do not threaten me,you are criminals,who believe you are above the law and I CAN GUARANTEE YOU ARE NOT ABOVE THE LAW.