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		<title>By: cosmos</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/10/open-thread-10/#comment-171362</link>
		<dc:creator>cosmos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 00:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Look in the Congressional Record cosmos, not the Sierra Club. And look at Justice Department reports.&quot;

Posted by: Republican &#124; May 26, 2007 at 12:34 PM
&lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/05/dont_count_on_f.html#comment-70787370&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/05/dont_count_on_f.html#comment-70787370&lt;/a&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Look in the Congressional Record cosmos, not the Sierra Club. And look at Justice Department reports.&#8221;</p>
<p>Posted by: Republican | May 26, 2007 at 12:34 PM<br />
<a href="http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/05/dont_count_on_f.html#comment-70787370" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/05/dont_count_on_f.html#comment-70787370</a></p>
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		<title>By: cosmos</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/10/open-thread-10/#comment-171361</link>
		<dc:creator>cosmos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 00:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kansas, WHERE are your Congress and the Justice Dept sources re the Sierra Club and levee failures???

&lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/05/dont_count_on_f.html#comment-70787152&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/05/dont_count_on_f.html#comment-70787152&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/05/open_thread_28.html#comment-71041282&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/05/open_thread_28.html#comment-71041282&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/06/sicko-offers-gl.html#comment-74527572&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/06/sicko-offers-gl.html#comment-74527572&lt;/a&gt;

And thank you for posting the levee lie again above.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/09/open-thread-926.html#comment-84210900&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/09/open-thread-926.html#comment-84210900&lt;/a&gt;

It proves that you ignore facts, and have ZERO credibility.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kansas, WHERE are your Congress and the Justice Dept sources re the Sierra Club and levee failures???</p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/05/dont_count_on_f.html#comment-70787152" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/05/dont_count_on_f.html#comment-70787152</a></p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/05/open_thread_28.html#comment-71041282" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/05/open_thread_28.html#comment-71041282</a></p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/06/sicko-offers-gl.html#comment-74527572" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/06/sicko-offers-gl.html#comment-74527572</a></p>
<p>And thank you for posting the levee lie again above.</p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/09/open-thread-926.html#comment-84210900" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/09/open-thread-926.html#comment-84210900</a></p>
<p>It proves that you ignore facts, and have ZERO credibility.</p>
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		<title>By: Chas.</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/10/open-thread-10/#comment-171360</link>
		<dc:creator>Chas.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 06:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good Night; Good Luck; and God bless; Whatever you conceive God to be!!

Blessings  all!!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good Night; Good Luck; and God bless; Whatever you conceive God to be!!</p>
<p>Blessings  all!!</p>
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		<title>By: cosmos</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/10/open-thread-10/#comment-171359</link>
		<dc:creator>cosmos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 06:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Kansas have you ever considered WHY the WEBLOG lets you continue to post?&quot;

Posted by: Pat Herron &#124; October 13, 2007 at 10:43 PM

Maybe it&#039;s because his posts are great examples of illogical, uninformed, unscientific, hateful, lying, rude, and obnoxious &quot;Kansas values&quot; Republican values???
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Kansas have you ever considered WHY the WEBLOG lets you continue to post?&#8221;</p>
<p>Posted by: Pat Herron | October 13, 2007 at 10:43 PM</p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s because his posts are great examples of illogical, uninformed, unscientific, hateful, lying, rude, and obnoxious &#8220;Kansas values&#8221; Republican values???</p>
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		<title>By: J R</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/10/open-thread-10/#comment-171358</link>
		<dc:creator>J R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 06:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a brutal forum &quot;kansas&quot;

I fight mean but I fight fair. I am who I am and do not pretend at nics. If I see an &quot;enemy&quot; badly treated, I say so.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a brutal forum &#8220;kansas&#8221;</p>
<p>I fight mean but I fight fair. I am who I am and do not pretend at nics. If I see an &#8220;enemy&#8221; badly treated, I say so.</p>
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		<title>By: cosmos</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/10/open-thread-10/#comment-171357</link>
		<dc:creator>cosmos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 06:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Capn,

Thank you.  Bob Herbert&#039;s column sums up Bush, Gore, and U.S. politics perfectly.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Capn,</p>
<p>Thank you.  Bob Herbert&#8217;s column sums up Bush, Gore, and U.S. politics perfectly.</p>
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		<title>By: Kansas</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/10/open-thread-10/#comment-171356</link>
		<dc:creator>Kansas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 06:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For what it&#039;s worth Nathan, J R has tried that &quot;stuck up for me line&quot; as well.

It&#039;s like he wants a medal or something for doing the decent thing.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For what it&#8217;s worth Nathan, J R has tried that &#8220;stuck up for me line&#8221; as well.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like he wants a medal or something for doing the decent thing.</p>
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		<title>By: J R</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/10/open-thread-10/#comment-171355</link>
		<dc:creator>J R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 06:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok I will remember that Nathan.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok I will remember that Nathan.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/10/open-thread-10/#comment-171354</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 06:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JR,

Your sticking up for me has nothing to do with me thinking more of Kansas than Capnamerica.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JR,</p>
<p>Your sticking up for me has nothing to do with me thinking more of Kansas than Capnamerica.</p>
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		<title>By: Kansas</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/10/open-thread-10/#comment-171353</link>
		<dc:creator>Kansas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 06:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t remember anyone on &quot;my side&quot; demanding posters leave as ransom to desist in bad behavior.

Posted by: J R &#124; October 13, 2007 at 11:59 PM

Steven Davis was the only one of the three (Capn, J R and Steven Davis) to &quot;Man up.&quot;

Hat tip to Steven Davis for being a man.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t remember anyone on &#8220;my side&#8221; demanding posters leave as ransom to desist in bad behavior.</p>
<p>Posted by: J R | October 13, 2007 at 11:59 PM</p>
<p>Steven Davis was the only one of the three (Capn, J R and Steven Davis) to &#8220;Man up.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hat tip to Steven Davis for being a man.</p>
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		<title>By: J R</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/10/open-thread-10/#comment-171352</link>
		<dc:creator>J R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 05:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Think what you will Nathan.

I have stood up for you and for your dad and for many on the right.

I don&#039;t remember anyone on &quot;my side&quot; demanding posters leave as ransom to desist in bad behavior.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Think what you will Nathan.</p>
<p>I have stood up for you and for your dad and for many on the right.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t remember anyone on &#8220;my side&#8221; demanding posters leave as ransom to desist in bad behavior.</p>
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		<title>By: Kansas</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/10/open-thread-10/#comment-171351</link>
		<dc:creator>Kansas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 05:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Capn is the &quot;Al Gore&quot; of the WE Blog.  He might win in the popularity of the Blog amongst his loyal followers.

But he still comes in second place just like Gore. :)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Capn is the &#8220;Al Gore&#8221; of the WE Blog.  He might win in the popularity of the Blog amongst his loyal followers.</p>
<p>But he still comes in second place just like Gore. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/10/open-thread-10/#comment-171350</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 05:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JR,

You see what I am talking about?

Why should I think CapnAmerica is better than Kansas with the crap he is posting here?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JR,</p>
<p>You see what I am talking about?</p>
<p>Why should I think CapnAmerica is better than Kansas with the crap he is posting here?</p>
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		<title>By: CapnAmerica</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/10/open-thread-10/#comment-171349</link>
		<dc:creator>CapnAmerica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 05:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops, fossil.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, fossil.</p>
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		<title>By: CapnAmerica</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/10/open-thread-10/#comment-171348</link>
		<dc:creator>CapnAmerica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 05:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why don&#039;t you go smash some fossiles, Nathan.

Because you don&#039;t want people to think the earth is like 4.5 billion years old or anything.

Smashing the fossile record is your Christian duty.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why don&#8217;t you go smash some fossiles, Nathan.</p>
<p>Because you don&#8217;t want people to think the earth is like 4.5 billion years old or anything.</p>
<p>Smashing the fossile record is your Christian duty.</p>
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		<title>By: CapnAmerica</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/10/open-thread-10/#comment-171347</link>
		<dc:creator>CapnAmerica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 05:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, heh, JR.

I don&#039;t negotiate with terrorists.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, heh, JR.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t negotiate with terrorists.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/10/open-thread-10/#comment-171346</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 05:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JR,

Steven is his own man.  He hardly posted here anyhow and frequently complained about the posting here.

He left because he wanted to.

I don&#039;t post here as often and wont post here as often because of people on your side.

So what?

Either you wan&#039;t to post here or you don&#039;t.

And after tonight I am remembering why I don&#039;t as often anymore either.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JR,</p>
<p>Steven is his own man.  He hardly posted here anyhow and frequently complained about the posting here.</p>
<p>He left because he wanted to.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t post here as often and wont post here as often because of people on your side.</p>
<p>So what?</p>
<p>Either you wan&#8217;t to post here or you don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>And after tonight I am remembering why I don&#8217;t as often anymore either.</p>
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		<title>By: Kansas</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/10/open-thread-10/#comment-171345</link>
		<dc:creator>Kansas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 05:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Need some chapstick Capn? Kissing all that GORACLE butt has to be painful.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Need some chapstick Capn? Kissing all that GORACLE butt has to be painful.</p>
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		<title>By: J R</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/10/open-thread-10/#comment-171344</link>
		<dc:creator>J R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 05:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nathan

GO to yesterdays open thread.

Kansas ran off Steven. He demanded that I, Steven , and Capn leave and vow never to post again.

The guy is a megalomaniac.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nathan</p>
<p>GO to yesterdays open thread.</p>
<p>Kansas ran off Steven. He demanded that I, Steven , and Capn leave and vow never to post again.</p>
<p>The guy is a megalomaniac.</p>
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		<title>By: CapnAmerica</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/10/open-thread-10/#comment-171343</link>
		<dc:creator>CapnAmerica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 05:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>October 13, 2007Op-Ed Columnist

The Trivial Pursuit

By BOB HERBERT

Yesterday began with the gratifying news that Al Gore, derided by George H.W. Bush as the “Ozone Man,&#8221; had won the Nobel Peace Prize.

The first thing media types wanted to know was whether this would prompt Mr. Gore to elbow his way into the presidential campaign. That&#039;s like asking someone who&#039;s recovered from a heart attack if he plans to resume smoking.

Mr. Gore, who won an Academy Award for his documentary on global warming, “An Inconvenient Truth,&#8221; and an Emmy for his cable TV network, Current, knows better than anyone else how toxic and downright idiotic presidential politics has become.

He may be one of the most intelligent, thoughtful, talented men in America and remarkably well-equipped to lead the nation, but it&#039;s Mr. Bush&#039;s less-than-curious, less-than-distinguished son, George W., who is president.

Mr. Bush came to mind because, for all of the obvious vulnerabilities he exhibited in 2000, it was not him but Mr. Gore who was mocked unmercifully by the national media. And the mockery had nothing to do with the former vice president&#039;s positions on important policy issues. He was mocked because of his personality.

In the race for the highest office in the land, we showed the collective maturity of 3-year-olds.

Mr. Gore was taken to task for his taste in clothing and for such grievous offenses as sighing or, allegedly, rolling his eyes. It was a given that at a barbecue everyone would rush to be with his opponent.

We&#039;ve paid a heavy price. The president who got such high marks as a barbecue companion doesn&#039;t seem to know up from down. He&#039;s hurled the nation into a ruinous war that has cost countless lives and spawned a whole new generation of terrorists. He continues to sit idly by as a historic American city, New Orleans, remains wounded and on its knees. He&#039;s blithely steered the nation into a bottomless pit of debt.

I could go on.

Mr. Gore actually polled the most votes in 2000, but he was criticized for not having whipped Mr. Bush decisively enough to have avoided the madness in Florida.

Mr. Gore knows the system is in trouble, and not just because of the way he lost in 2000. The last time I spoke to him, a few months ago, he said: “Having served in the White House with the Gingrich Congress, and having watched the best of intentions so often turned into small changes ballyhooed as revolutionary, sometimes having no lasting mark, I really do believe that fixing the dynamic of democracy is an urgent task.&#8221;

That&#039;s just the kind of thoughtful comment that can&#039;t get a real hearing in our sound-bite politics. The result is that reality, untidy and complex, is almost always trumped by well-crafted phoniness.

Al Gore is a serious man confronted by a political system that is not open to a serious exploration of important, complex issues. He knows it.

“What politics has become,&#8221; he said, with a laugh and a tinge of regret, “requires a level of tolerance for triviality and artifice and nonsense that I have found in short supply.&#8221;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/13/opinion/13herbert.html?_r=1&amp;hp=&amp;oref=slogin&amp;pagewanted=print&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/13/opinion/13herbert.html?_r=1&amp;hp=&amp;oref=slogin&amp;pagewanted=print&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>October 13, 2007Op-Ed Columnist</p>
<p>The Trivial Pursuit</p>
<p>By BOB HERBERT</p>
<p>Yesterday began with the gratifying news that Al Gore, derided by George H.W. Bush as the “Ozone Man,&rdquo; had won the Nobel Peace Prize.</p>
<p>The first thing media types wanted to know was whether this would prompt Mr. Gore to elbow his way into the presidential campaign. That&#8217;s like asking someone who&#8217;s recovered from a heart attack if he plans to resume smoking.</p>
<p>Mr. Gore, who won an Academy Award for his documentary on global warming, “An Inconvenient Truth,&rdquo; and an Emmy for his cable TV network, Current, knows better than anyone else how toxic and downright idiotic presidential politics has become.</p>
<p>He may be one of the most intelligent, thoughtful, talented men in America and remarkably well-equipped to lead the nation, but it&#8217;s Mr. Bush&#8217;s less-than-curious, less-than-distinguished son, George W., who is president.</p>
<p>Mr. Bush came to mind because, for all of the obvious vulnerabilities he exhibited in 2000, it was not him but Mr. Gore who was mocked unmercifully by the national media. And the mockery had nothing to do with the former vice president&#8217;s positions on important policy issues. He was mocked because of his personality.</p>
<p>In the race for the highest office in the land, we showed the collective maturity of 3-year-olds.</p>
<p>Mr. Gore was taken to task for his taste in clothing and for such grievous offenses as sighing or, allegedly, rolling his eyes. It was a given that at a barbecue everyone would rush to be with his opponent.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve paid a heavy price. The president who got such high marks as a barbecue companion doesn&#8217;t seem to know up from down. He&#8217;s hurled the nation into a ruinous war that has cost countless lives and spawned a whole new generation of terrorists. He continues to sit idly by as a historic American city, New Orleans, remains wounded and on its knees. He&#8217;s blithely steered the nation into a bottomless pit of debt.</p>
<p>I could go on.</p>
<p>Mr. Gore actually polled the most votes in 2000, but he was criticized for not having whipped Mr. Bush decisively enough to have avoided the madness in Florida.</p>
<p>Mr. Gore knows the system is in trouble, and not just because of the way he lost in 2000. The last time I spoke to him, a few months ago, he said: “Having served in the White House with the Gingrich Congress, and having watched the best of intentions so often turned into small changes ballyhooed as revolutionary, sometimes having no lasting mark, I really do believe that fixing the dynamic of democracy is an urgent task.&rdquo;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s just the kind of thoughtful comment that can&#8217;t get a real hearing in our sound-bite politics. The result is that reality, untidy and complex, is almost always trumped by well-crafted phoniness.</p>
<p>Al Gore is a serious man confronted by a political system that is not open to a serious exploration of important, complex issues. He knows it.</p>
<p>“What politics has become,&rdquo; he said, with a laugh and a tinge of regret, “requires a level of tolerance for triviality and artifice and nonsense that I have found in short supply.&rdquo;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/13/opinion/13herbert.html?_r=1&amp;hp=&amp;oref=slogin&amp;pagewanted=print" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/13/opinion/13herbert.html?_r=1&amp;hp=&amp;oref=slogin&amp;pagewanted=print</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/10/open-thread-10/#comment-171342</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 05:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JR,

Kansas may or may not be bad news.  My statement has nothing to do with how bad Kansas is.

My statement simply said that I would take Kansas over CapnAmerica any day.

CapnAmerica has said some things about the military which in my mind will always make him less of a person than Kansas.
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<p>Kansas may or may not be bad news.  My statement has nothing to do with how bad Kansas is.</p>
<p>My statement simply said that I would take Kansas over CapnAmerica any day.</p>
<p>CapnAmerica has said some things about the military which in my mind will always make him less of a person than Kansas.</p>
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		<title>By: Kansas</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/10/open-thread-10/#comment-171341</link>
		<dc:creator>Kansas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 05:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kansas, don&#039;t worry if the libs won&#039;t talk to you (I know you aren&#039;t). Keep posting away. They cannot resist you and the other conservatives will eventually flood the blues out anyway. Hillary will actually advance that.

Posted by: Pat Herron &#124; October 13, 2007 at 11:44 PM

I don&#039;t worry Pat. It&#039;s my job to make them think.  Lord knows they can&#039;t do it on their own.
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<p>Posted by: Pat Herron | October 13, 2007 at 11:44 PM</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t worry Pat. It&#8217;s my job to make them think.  Lord knows they can&#8217;t do it on their own.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat Herron</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/10/open-thread-10/#comment-171340</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat Herron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 05:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I&#039;ve obviously had too much too drink. I am seeing double on captains last post.

Either that, or HE has had too much to drink.

Regardless, I&#039;ve things to do tonight in a positive way. I won&#039;t end my night staring at the children playing on the blog.

Hope you solve the worlds problems fighting amongst yourselves the rest of the night.

And J R, still waiting for your royal highness to save the world.Talking shit isn&#039;t doing it junior.

Kansas, don&#039;t worry if the libs won&#039;t talk to you (I know you aren&#039;t). Keep posting away. They cannot resist you and the other conservatives will eventually flood the blues out anyway.  Hillary will actually advance that.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;ve obviously had too much too drink. I am seeing double on captains last post.</p>
<p>Either that, or HE has had too much to drink.</p>
<p>Regardless, I&#8217;ve things to do tonight in a positive way. I won&#8217;t end my night staring at the children playing on the blog.</p>
<p>Hope you solve the worlds problems fighting amongst yourselves the rest of the night.</p>
<p>And J R, still waiting for your royal highness to save the world.Talking shit isn&#8217;t doing it junior.</p>
<p>Kansas, don&#8217;t worry if the libs won&#8217;t talk to you (I know you aren&#8217;t). Keep posting away. They cannot resist you and the other conservatives will eventually flood the blues out anyway.  Hillary will actually advance that.</p>
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		<title>By: J R</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/10/open-thread-10/#comment-171339</link>
		<dc:creator>J R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 05:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nathan?

If you do not trust Capn. And failing that trust me.

Or trust XXX.

&quot;kansas&quot; is bad news.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nathan?</p>
<p>If you do not trust Capn. And failing that trust me.</p>
<p>Or trust XXX.</p>
<p>&#8220;kansas&#8221; is bad news.</p>
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		<title>By: CapnAmerica</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/10/open-thread-10/#comment-171338</link>
		<dc:creator>CapnAmerica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 05:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I s&#039;pose you think the earth is only 8,000 years old too, right, Nathan?

With people like that, it&#039;s a COMPLIMENT for them to disagree with you . . .
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I s&#8217;pose you think the earth is only 8,000 years old too, right, Nathan?</p>
<p>With people like that, it&#8217;s a COMPLIMENT for them to disagree with you . . .</p>
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