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- By Phillip Brownlee
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‘Arctic thaw may be at “tipping point” ‘http://www.reuters.com/article/GlobalEnvironment07/idUSL2815198120071001?pageNumber=1
“OSLO (Reuters) – A record melt of Arctic summer sea ice this month may be a sign that global warming is reaching a critical trigger point that could accelerate the northern thaw, some scientists say.”
More at link. H/T to http://www.desmogblog.com/arctic-tipping-point
And anyone here like to snow ski, and/or snowboard???
The Aspen Skiing Company’s Web site dedicated to stopping global warming, http://www.savesnow.org/
‘Nuff Said!!!
FANTASY IN AMERICALIES ACCEPTED AS TRUTH
By: Al Cronkrite
Racial integration in the United States has been a dismal failure just as those who arranged it knew it would be. Blacks and Whites have never been comfortable together. Blacks bused into White schools and Whites bused into Black schools segregate into their own groups on their own turf. In colleges Blacks want their own dormitories and seek to live and socialize with their own kind. At high school basketball games Blacks congregate together separate from Whites. Blacks clearly prefer their own race. God made it that way.
Jena, Louisiana is 85 percent White and about 10 percent Black. At the local high school Blacks socialized on the bleachers and Whites under a tree that became known as the “White Tree”. During a school assembly freshman Kenneth Purvis, a Black student, asked and was given permission by the principal to sit under the White Tree. He and several of his friends did so. The next morning three nooses were seen hanging under the tree. Most Whites saw it as a thoughtless kids prank and according to one Black teacher both Black and White students were seen playing under the tree with the rope nooses.
Some Blacks were irate.
Over the next few months there were a number of racial confrontations. A main wing of the high school was set on fire and had to be demolished.
In early December, 2006 Justin Barker, a White student, was struck on the head from behind and knocked unconscious. On the floor he was brutally kicked by a group a Black students. Barker was unconscious on arrival and spent two hours in the hospital emergency room with a concussion, injuries to his ears, his face, his eye, and one hand.
The police arrested six Black students Robert Bailey, Jr. 17, Mychal Bell 16, Carwin Jones 18, Bryant Purvis 17, Theo Shaw 17, and Jesse Ray Beard, 14. Beard was charged as a juvenile but the other five were charged as adults with attempted second-degree murder, and jailed with high bonds.
On September 20, 2007 the Millions More Movement lead a rally for the Jena 6. Reportedly supporting the rally were the Nation of Islam, New Black Panther Party, ACLU, Color of Change, Final Call Newspaper, Community Defender, NAACP, Left Turn Magazine, Louisiana Justice Institute, Interfaith Worker Justice, People’s Institute for Survival and Beyond, Common Ground Health Clinic, Michael Baisden Show, Malcolm X Grassroots, Families and Friends of Louisiana’s Incarcerated Children, Women of Color Against Violence, Advocates of Environmental Human Rights, and more.
Long term Black Michigan Congressman John Conyers made this statement: “The story of the Jena Six serves as a tragically perfect example of the continuing disparities that exist in our country’s justice system…the six boys–all black–expelled from school, charged with attempted second-degree murder, and bond set much too high for their families to pay. The likeliness to be prosecuted and the severity of punishment divides unfairly along racial lines in Jena, as it still does in so many places in America.” Read the entire statement here.
Debra Slaughter, Black owner of a corporate integrity and investigative service, said “Does racism ever end? Why is it when white kids break the law it’s called an adolescent prank, yet when Black youth are involved it becomes a federal offense or gang involvement? Enough is enough.” Read the entire article here.
Who initiated the quest to sit under the White Tree? Blacks. Who perpetrated the ongoing violence? Blacks. Who was responsible for the numerous racial incidents? Blacks.
Read a short detailed account of Jena 6 here.
Now, gentle reader, please consider all this hullabaloo against the reality that follows:
Blacks are seven times more likely to commit murder than other races, eight times more likely to commit robbery, and three times as likely to use a gun. Forty five percent of Black violent crime is against Whites while forty three percent is against Blacks and ten percent against Hispanics. Blacks are 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against a White person than vice versa and 136 times more likely to commit robbery. Black rape of white women is 115 times more likely than White rape against Black women. These figures were published in an August 25, 2007 column by Pat Buchanan. He wrote, “The real repository of racism in America – manifest in violent inter-racial assault, rape and murder – is to be found not in the white community, but in the African-American community.”
A young White couple out on a date, early in the morning on January 7, 2007 in Knoxville, Tennessee were confronted by five Blacks intent on stealing their Toyota 4-Runner. Chris Newsom, 23 and Channon Christian, 21 were kidnapped in their own car, driven to a house rented to Lemaricus Davidson where Channon was gang raped, vaginally, anally, and orally, had her mouth sprayed with a disinfectant to erase DNA, was strangled, put into a plastic bag and stuffed into a garbage can. Her boy friend, Chris, was anally raped, shot three times, dumped and set afire.
One Black woman and four Black men were arrested. The host that protested the Jena 6 was quiet. The Knoxville News Sentinel provided extensive local coverage (Read it here.) and the Internet picked it up but, sensational as it was, the national media ignored the story.
These individuals were arrested:
Eric DeWayne “E” Boyd, 34
George Geovonni “Detroit” Thomas, 27
Lemaricus Devall “Slim” Davidson, 25
Letalvis “Rome” Cobbins, 24
Vanessa Coleman, 18
Read a short detailed account of the murder of the White couple here.
Why would the national media block the story of the savage rape and mutilation of an innocent young couple?
Recently, on CNN, Wolf Blitzer interviewed Bill Maher. Maher said he was supporting Ron Paul for president. Blitzer responded that he had told his producer that Maher would express this choice. If free speech was still active, why would Wolf Blitzer need to tell his producer what a guest might say?
Dan Rather was on Larry King’s show recently arguing in favor of his $70 million law suit against CBS. His contention that the news is controlled is correct but the timing is questionable. I have not been a fan of Dan Rather since his arrogant responses to Richard Nixon. Nixon may have deserved a bit of sarcasm but it did not sit well coming from the likes of Rather. That he did not complain about control of the media while they were paying him speaks loudly about his character. Nevertheless, I do believe the details of President George W. Bush’s National Guard duty need to be properly aired. That they were disparaged by CBS top management is another example of the control these powerful individuals exert on what goes out on the airways.
The elite Zionist Jews who control most of our press and media can be counted on one hand. Their fellow Zionists have been active in Black affairs for decades. The NAACP was founded by Joel Spingarn. The Springarns controlled the organization into the early 1960s. Kevie Kaplan was president, Jack Greenberg was their chief counsel and Herbert Hill head of labor relations. Organizations like the ACLU and the Southern Poverty Law Center side with Blacks against Whites with heavy Jewish support.
The upshot of all this agitation is a serious deterioration in Black/White relations with Blacks being encouraged to hate White people because White people are described as their oppressors. Most White citizens are afraid to venture into Black neighborhoods and many Blacks would attack them if they did.
Knoxville Police Chief Sterling Owen, IV claims the ugly rape and murder of the two young Whites was not racially motivated, but considering the brutality involved, the claim does not ring true. Knoxville has a vested interest in avoiding additional racial strife and lying about the cause of the crime serves their purpose. The truth is that many Blacks harbor a visceral hatred for Whites and are fully capable of supporting wholesale murder!
As with every problem, mendacious fantasy will only aggravate the situation allowing it to fester and develop into an open sore.
We are already close to Martial Law in United States. Large scale racial strife will most certainly bring it upon us.
“Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.” John 8:44
“Published originally at EtherZone.com : republication allowed with this notice and hyperlink intact.”
http://www.etherzone.com/2007/cron092807.shtml
I guess that this is an example of the “latino family values” that the assclown in the White House is always prattling on about? Diversity, had enough yet?
WantedPossible HIV carrier sought on rape chargesBy Lisa Rosetta
The Salt Lake TribuneArticle Last Updated: 09/22/2007 02:19:45 AM MDT
Click photo to enlargeSLPD mug shot of Christians Mitchell Ortiz«1»A Salt Lake City man wanted for allegedly raping a 14-year-old girl may also have HIV – the virus that causes AIDS – and may pose a public health risk, police warned Friday.
Christians Michell Ortiz, 22, is charged with rape and two counts of forcible sodomy, all first-degree felonies, as well as second-degree felony forcible sexual abuse.
Jeff Bedard, a Salt Lake City police spokesman, said the alleged victim is the daughter of a woman with whom Ortiz is acquainted.
“He gained access to the house that way,” Bedard said.
The detective would not say how police discovered Ortiz – who allegedly raped the girl once in July and again in August – is possibly HIV positive. Bedard also declined to say whether the girl has been tested for HIV since she was assaulted.
Ortiz has also impregnated four women, Bedard said, but he is not facing any charges in connection with them.
Whether Ortiz could face additional felony charges as a result of being HIV positive – and possibly knowing this prior to the alleged incidents – is unclear, Bedard said….http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_6969039
ATTN: STEVEN DAVIS!!!!!
I recently sent Mike an email. I am not sure we are on good terms over recent shifts. If you can suggest a better intermediary, I’d be willing to listen. Thanks. Glad you’re back.
Posted by: Steven Davis | October 02, 2007 at 10:27 PM
Steven, we’re on fine terms. Send me an e-mail and I’ll be glad to forward it to JR.
Potential cost, location stall ATV park idea
Wichita City Council members Tuesday gave a lukewarm reception to a proposal to build an off-road park in northeast Wichita.
They cited concerns that a $1 million budget would not be enough to build a quality park, and some were reluctant to obligate the land because of its potential for housing a landfill.http://www.kansas.com/news/updates/story/190642.html
Has anybody considered the legal liability of a thing like this?Perfect example of a situation best left to private enterprise.
“”"The next morning three nooses were seen hanging under the tree. Most Whites saw it as a thoughtless kids prank and according to one Black teacher both Black and White students were seen playing under the tree with the rope nooses.
Some Blacks were irate.
Over the next few months there were a number of racial confrontations.”"”"
And that is where it should have been stopped by the SCHOOL. The people who put the nooses should have been suspended for a minimum of 10 days and put on probation the rest of the year. Those involved in confrontations should have been expelled. The school should have made it clear that such behaviour would not be tolerated and took a zero tolerance policy towards it. But they let things get out of control and we ended up with this mess.
Can the Democrats lie and slander and get away with it?
Stay tuned! The Stalinist Left are on the march!
Thanks, XXX.
“Can the Democrats lie and slander and get away with it?
Stay tuned! The Stalinist Left are on the march!”
A pathetic, name calling content free comment from someone who should know better. That’s the sort of comment that belongs in Opinion Line.
You take your shots Joe, but I have always thought you were a bit more thoughtful than say, a fleetwood.
Does racial hate speech deserve first amendment rights protection?
I would allow it, if the poster posted their real name, address, email address and phone number. You know, so the Jena 6 could visit them and have a discussion about the merits of their viewpoint.
Of course that will never happen. People like Outram are cowards and are content to spew their hatred anonymously from behind their keyboards.
My grandfather who declined joining the KKK in 1930’s Oklahoma said about that organization – “I never had any respect for a man who had to put a sheet over his head to say to what he thought.” Enough said.
Will ya looky there.
I’m already bringing peace and helping misunderstandings.
Got your email Steven. Thanks the assist X.
And Joe? It’s been asked many times many ways. What the hell are you talking about?
“Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction.” — Blaise Pascal
http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/richard_dawkins/2007/10/for_good_people_to_go_evil_thi/all_comments.html
Caution: the above was written by Richard Dawkins, well known evolutionary biologist and atheist.
Can Rush Limbaugh slander troops who oppose the war, lie about having slandered them, and then get away with it?
Stay tuned! The fascist Right is on the march!
Mornin’, Joe Williams!
Rush Limbaugh is a big, fat, LIAR.
Critical point for melting ice/snow – maybe.
But all that cool water is going to slow down the oscillation of the natural warmer flow of climate cycle. When that happens, things will get colder. After that happens, when the ice starts increasing once again, the reflective property (albedo) of the arctic will recycle into a colder climate.
Isn’t natural climate change fascinating? :)
“You take your shots Joe, but I have always thought you were a bit more thoughtful than say, a fleetwood.”
Ow
heh.
fleettwood gets more mileage out of a single word than most do with several paragraphs. :)
heh
Bush vetoes child health insurance plan
President, Congress battle over $30 billion coverage increase
WASHINGTON – President Bush, in a confrontation with Congress, on Wednesday vetoed a bipartisan bill that would have dramatically expanded children’s health insurance.
It was only the fourth veto of Bush’s presidency, and one that some Republicans feared could carry steep risks for their party in next year’s elections. The Senate approved the bill with enough votes to override the veto, but the margin in the House fell short of the required number.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21111931/
Polar Bears and Climate Change
http://youtube.com/watch?v=EDIP71Lviys
For all the mom’s :)
Mom’s Overture
http://youtube.com/watch?v=W95Y8hNQiH8
Brownback talks the talk, Carter Walks the walk!Carter gets into shouting match in Sudan
Well, he did it.
bush vetoed SCHIPs
That’s the GOP for ya. The party of suffer the little children.
Unbelievable, JR.
Tens of millions for Blackwater, the murder machine. Tens of millions for CACI, the torture machine. BILLIONS for Halliburton, the war-profiteer machine.
And for desperately sick American children? F*** ‘em.
“Compassionate conservative” means “compassion” for rich people and big corporations and “conservative” for everybody else . . .
I wonder if they delude themselves into thinking I would for even an instant consider teaching my son this is a nation worth taking up arms for. Let me relieive than uf any such delusion.
Good point, JR.
“We’ll use you kids to fight our wars, but don’t expect us to do anything to keep you healthy. Until you’re old enough to die for CorporateAmerica, we don’t have any interest in you.”
When I was in China, my Chinese friends would repeat the Communist Party line: “You capitalist Americans live in a society in which people treat each other very coldly, without compassion or concern.”
I of course always argued vehemently against that.
Now I’m starting to wonder if they were right. Our government, as an expression of the will of the American public, certainly does treat its citizens coldly and callously.
We should demand better.
If the country or as is most often the case someone else’s interest comes under attack from
abroad? Hey don’t call me! Don’t call my kid either.
Go call Rush.
“Bush vetoes child health insurance plan”
Not a total loss. If the veto doesn’t get over-ridden, we get to paint the republicans as cruel heartless bastards. Just what republicans up for re-election needed, another nail in the coffin.
I would have rather seen the bill signed.
“I wonder if they delude themselves into thinking I would for even an instant consider teaching my son this is a nation worth taking up arms for.”
America Hater
Name calling totally devoid of content.
Yup.
That’s why he’s BDP Fleettwood.
DRAFT YOUNG REPUBLICANS.
I require the country to love its people before I reciprocate. Ronald Reagan and his policies and policies since pretty much killed “…ask what you can do for your country.” for me.
bush vetoed SCHIPs
That’s the GOP for ya. The party of suffer the little children.
Posted by: J R | October 03, 2007 at 10:13 AM
Not exactly, he vetoed the spending increase.
And what Congress created SCHIPS?
Well, that Gingrich ran House of Represenatives in the 1990s. :)
ATTENTION DOUG
A few days ago you wrote:
The fact is that Tiahrt gets thousands of dollars in PAC money from tobacco interests (Moran doesn’t) so he voted against the health care to protect tobacco sales.
Posted by: Doug | September 26, 2007 at 12:27 PM
Please E-MAIL ME with the source for this information.
(Click on my nic and then click “e-mail” on my typekey site.)
It’s important.
Thanks.
“Tens of millions for Blackwater, the murder machine. Tens of millions for CACI, the torture machine. BILLIONS for Halliburton, the war-profiteer machine.
And for desperately sick American children? F*** ‘em.”
Good use of the Iraq war CA! All we Democratics have to do is compare the program we want to Iraq and it sounds cheap. OPen your checkbook America! Brilliant!
Nice touch too on the sick kids angle. PRobably overdoing it and not true but I love it. HAHAHA
Not finding any Tobacco companies in the top 5 list of contributors for Tiahrt.
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Todd_Tiahrt
Why would Harris Corp – a telecommunications company – be interested in Todd?
Maybe Harris Corp is donating his mass phone call communication ads, like I get here several times a week???
I dont know why I get those calls… I’m not even a registered Republican!!
Maybe someone signed you up Chas. ;)
Ohhh noooo I hope not!!
Eagle editors
A dedicated Rush Limbaugh thread please.
Let’s have links to the audio as he originally broadcast to compare to the chopped and splice version he sent for broadcast on Armed Services radio.
JR you can get both of those audio links at MediaMatters.com
An America soldier, grievously wounded in Iraq, has asked of Rush Limbaugh: :”Bring me on your show. Call me a phony soldier to my face.”
There has been no response from Limbaugh.
Gutless.
“Gutless.” ?? Not hardly, he looks like Buddah after a major food binge. Try clueless, or just cowardly! He secretly suffers from “assholeis”, poor guy!
“There has been no response from Limbaugh.”
Maybe Limbaugh should have said that he loathed the military.That would have you people awfully happy.
Fleetwood as ever free from the ravages of intelligence.
Limbaugh doesn’t support the military. I’ve never heard him advocate for veterans benefits.
Limbaugh cares about USING the military.
It’s a distinction lost on many. Little surprise it afflicts present company.
Yowza. Did anyone else catch this comment from Steve Miller about what is “driving” the demand for electricity that the Holcomb plant is to provide?
“He said the demand within Kansas is being fueled by the needs of emerging ethanol plants across southwestern counties.”
So… the truth comes out. Ethanol and the damage it does to Kansas needs to be recognized. It swipes our water in more ways than one. And now Sunflower itself says ethanol plants need electricity so they have to build the water sucking, pollution spewing, coal fired plant in Kansas?
Is this a back door plea by miller to governor “leadership” and her lite gov parkinson to remember their slavish devotion to ethanol?
Is he trying to garner the support of all those “farmer/investors” and irrigated grain growers and trucking firms who profit from tax subsidies of ethanol? Jumping on the ethanol bandwagon to promote the Holcomb plant?
I tell ya what, I give miller style points for being creative. But all that creativity cant make up for the smell of desperation that surrounds this project.
Whatever will kathleen do?
“It’s a distinction lost on many.”
But not on you.Private Gump, you’re a goddamned genius!
Interesting. The decision from KDHE is still within the timeframe allowed by law, but the republican lawmakers are getting nervous and want to investigate what’s taking so long?
“State law gives KDHE 18 months – or until Dec. 1 – to approve or deny the application for two new generators at Sunflower’s Holcomb plant in southwest Kansas.
But lawmakers say they have been told for months that a decision was imminent and they don’t understand what has caused the delay.
snip
And.. yesterday I speculated that Sunflower spokesman Steve Miller was making an end run around the governor and KDHE and appealing directly to his sw ks legislative buddies. You know, the ones that owe him for dairy farms?
“We’re delighted to say the least,” said Sunflower spokesman Steve Miller. “We’re just really pleased to see that legislative leaders are taking an interest in this and moving us closer to answer on the permit.”
snip
And, all that capacity that is “needed” in kansas?
“Also, the project will increase Sunflower’s generating capacity more than seven times. That’s far more capacity, in theory, than its 122,000 customers would need, and most of the new power would be sold outside Kansas.”
http://www.kansas.com/news/updates/story/191069.html
Most of the new power would be sold outside of Kansas. With Kansas giving up its water and air quality for a handful of permanent jobs.
All the pain, little or none of the pleasure.
Yes indeed. Cant wait to see how this plays out…
Speaking of ethanol, it is my understanding that the price per gallon paid to the producers has dropped (from a short “blurb” heard on the radio this morning) some fifty cents/gallon, causing the refiners to lose money. Wondering if this is short term, or indicative of a larger trend, and if the latter, what the justification for expansion of the number of plants in Kansas will become.
ksfarmgrrl,
Not to mention the stupid irony of burning coal to make carbon-neutral ethanol.
And the future carbon tax on coal will raise the cost of any ethanol it produces.
Better ways,’Ethanol Fact SheetCombined Heat and Power: An Energy-Efficient Choice for the Ethanol Industry’http://www.epa.gov/chp/markets/ethanol_fs.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol_fuel_in_Brazil#Electricity_from_bagasse“Part of the bagasse is currently burned at the mill to provide heat for distillation and electricity to run the machinery. This allows ethanol plants to be energetically self-sufficient and even sell surplus electricity to utilities; “
‘Arctic Sea Ice Shatters All Previous Record Lows’http://nsidc.org/news/press/2007_seaiceminimum/20071001_pressrelease.html
“Arctic sea ice has long been recognized as a sensitive climate indicator. NSIDC Senior Scientist Mark Serreze said, “Computer projections have consistently shown that as global temperatures rise, the sea ice cover will begin to shrink. While a number of natural factors have certainly contributed to the overall decline in sea ice, the effects of greenhouse warming are now coming through loud and clear.” ”
Much of the Arctic ice is younger (thinner) and will melt easier.
See the animation,Figure 4: Disappearance of old ice, 1982–2007http://nsidc.org/news/press/2007_seaiceminimum/20070810_index.html
Global Warming, All Day Long, All The Time, Here on the WE Blog!
Can’t we get a Fear and Hysteria Thread where we can put all the Global Warming and 9/11 hype?
Planned Parenthood of West Michigan and Northern Michigan is shutting down abortion mills because of significant funding cuts. Planned Parenthood says it will close mills in Grand Rapids, Muskegon and Mount Pleasant by the end of the year. Mills in White Cloud and Hart closed on Monday.State and federal taxpayer funding, which constitutes 40% of Planned Parenthood’s budget, has now been cut by $700,000 by a new formula in the Department of Community Health to determine how taxpayer money is allocated for “health”.A new way to shut down abortion mills – mathematical formula!
Can’t we get a Fear and Hysteria Thread where we can put all the Global Warming and 9/11 hype?
Posted by: Larry, Moe, and Curly | October 03, 2007 at 02:52 PM
No, that’s already covered by the Website moveon.org. :)
‘FACT CHECK: “Phony Soldiers” and Limbaugh’s Revisionist History’http://mediamatters.org/items/200710020011?f=h_top
“Radio Talk-Show Host Falsely Claims Comments Taken Out of Context; Records Show Otherwise”
Parkay, who should pay for your abortion? Someone else?
Flash News!
Limbaugh Ratings go up 15 percent thanks to Media Matters!
‘Explain this’http://tamino.wordpress.com/2007/10/01/explain-this/
“This is for those who are still not sure the globe is warming, who think maybe it’s just a false impression due to bias in the thermometer record, or that it’s just “natural variation” due to ever-changing climate, or …”
EXPLAIN THIS! : Arctic Sea Ice Extent Anomalyhttp://tamino.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/seaice2.JPG
Editors,
What JR said: a dedicated thread for Rush Limbaugh, the big, fat, liar.
Where is Palm Trees when you need him?
EXPLAIN THIS! : Arctic Sea Ice Extent Anomaly
Wow! A chart marked off in tenths is really impressive!
Put it on a scale of actual temperature in whole degrees and it’s not so impressive. :)
Amazing how one can make charts look spectacular depending on the scale. :)
Free condoms handed out in public schools.
Free birth control pills handed out in clinics.
Free after pills handed out in clinics.
Free abortions.
I think people should have sex the old fashioned way – PAY FOR IT!
er not temperature scale…
a 2 excedrin day…
And Kansas, that scale spans a whopping 25 years too. That’s quite a hysterical trend! For a 12 year old, 25 years is a long time!
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/current.area.jpg
This ice chart shows the story in a different light.
And based on a 3 month spike, we should say the sky is falling now.
I noticed the birds have flown south early this year. If we have a very cold winter and the area of ice spikes far the other way by next March, we should start talking about global cooling.
Pretty early for the sock puppet ballet…. must be a matinee performance… LOL
Antarctic Ice Area At All Time Record High!
UPDATE: Monday, October 1, 2007 – Record SH sea ice maximum and NH sea ice minimum
Just when you thought this season’s cryosphere couldn’t be more strange …. The Southern Hemisphere sea ice area narrowly surpassed the previous historic maximum of 16.03 million sq. km to 16.17 million sq. km. The observed sea ice record in the Southern Hemisphere (1979-present) is not as long as the Northern Hemisphere. Prior to the satellite era, direct observations of the SH sea ice edge were sporadic.
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/
Church Lady, quit labeling people now, that isn’t very nice.
Southern Hemisphere Sea Ice Anomalyhttp://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/current.anom.south.jpg
http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/s_plot.html
Penguins are getting colder.
Chas,
And their comments are both funny, and pathetic.
They don’t seem to understand why anomaly graphs are used.
They don’t know that human-caused global warming was predicted to warm the Northern Hemisphere more quickly than the Southern Hesmisphere.
They don’t understand the weather patterns in the Antarctic region.
And they don’t understand the significance of the loss of Arctic sea ice.
I’m a Lib, somebody else will take care of me.
I don’t have to do a thing myself.
I’ve seen a marked different tone to Jos’s posts since the casino vote ? It wasn’t the liberals that defeated it —–
…and and and…
…cosmos makes broad, sweeping generalizations about what people know and don’t know…
…and and and…
cosmo is all about fear. He should work for Bush.
“cosmo is all about fear.”
Posted by: fleettwood
Information and knowledge seems to scare fleettwood. I guess that explains why he is the BDP.
All real guys work for bush.
Government Funded Study at a State University? Man, I need to get a job like this.
Study: Strippers Make More in Tips When Most ‘Fertile’Wednesday, October 03, 2007
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A new study from the University of New Mexico found that, on average, strippers make the most money in tips during the most “fertile” days of their monthly cycles, Psychology Today reports.
Researchers also found that women who take the birth control pill make less in tips overall than women who do not take the pill, $37 an hour versus $53 an hour, respectively.
For their research, psychologist Geoffrey Miller and colleagues visited local gentlemen’s clubs and counted tips made on lap dances.
Dancers made about $70 an hour during their peak period of fertility, versus about $35 while menstruating and $50 in between. Researchers attributed the fluctuation in tips to the changes in body odor, waist-to-hip ratio, and facial features that occur throughout a woman’s cycle.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,299204,00.html
Tough Guy. If Carter would have been tough with Iran 30 years ago, we wouldn’t have this problem with Iran and Iraq today.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,299087,00.html
KABKABIYA, Sudan — Former President Carter got in a shouting match Wednesday with Sudanese security services who blocked him from a town in Darfur where he was trying to meet with refugees from the ongoing conflict.
I have made a decision. I hate Bush. Yes, truly hate him. Now all of you who say I’m a Bush hater, you can have at it because I will readily agree with you.
“All real guys work for bush.”
Posted by: Real Guy
Yeah… like Philip Cooney.
Has bachelor’s degree in economics.
Worked at American Petroleum Institute, then Bush’s chief of staff of the Council on Environmental Quality, then Exxon.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Cooney
Sure Parkay, shut down the PP clinics, then backalley abortions will become more common. Abortions have already risen under the whole neocon philosophy…I thought you guys wanted FEWER abortions?
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/64175/?comments=view&cID=742028&pID=741913#c742028
This is why I hate Bush. Couple it with everything else he’s done, this was just the final straw.
Real guy – while Carter was not negotiating with terrorists -Reagan and Daddy Bush were behind the scenes making their own deal. So, even though Carter did not do enough in the Iran crisis, your boys Reagan and Daddy Bush were up to their eyeballs in the mess.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21115050
Judge increases award to Wal-Mart workers
Pennsylvania staff to receive additional $62 million for lost break time
PHILADELPHIA – Wal-Mart workers in Pennsylvania who previously won a $78.5 million class-action award for working off the clock will receive an additional $62.3 million in damages, a judge ruled Wednesday.
About 125,000 people will receive an additional $500 because of a delay in compensation.
“The law in its majesty applies equally to highly paid executives and minimum wage clerks,” Philadelphia Common Pleas Judge Mark Bernstein wrote.
“Just as highly paid executives’ promised equity interests or put options or percentage of sale proceeds are protected fringe benefits and wage supplements, so too the monetary equivalents of ‘paid break’ time cashiers and other employees were prohibited from taking are protected fringe benefits and wage supplements,” Bernstein wrote.
A Philadelphia jury last year awarded the workers the exact amount they had sought, rejecting Wal-Mart’s claim that some people chose to work through breaks or that the few minutes of occasional extra work were insignificant.
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HAHAHAHA! Wal-Mart said the workers CHOSE to work through breaks and work off the clock.
OMG, if they’re going to lie, at least come up with a plausible lie.
“EXPLAIN THIS! : Arctic Sea Ice Extent Anomaly
Wow! A chart marked off in tenths is really impressive!
Put it on a scale of actual temperature in whole degrees and it’s not so impressive. :)
Amazing how one can make charts look spectacular depending on the scale. :)”
Posted by: Kansas | October 03, 2007 at 03:03 PM
“er not temperature scale…
a 2 excedrin day…”
Posted by: Kansas | October 03, 2007 at 03:03 PM
It’s also not “marked off in tenths”. It’s marked in halves — of MILLION’s of square kilometers.
“And Kansas, that scale spans a whopping 25 years too. That’s quite a hysterical trend! For a 12 year old, 25 years is a long time!”
Posted by: Frosty the Snowman | October 03, 2007 at 03:06 PM
Here’s one going back to 1900http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/seasonal.extent.1900-2007.jpg
The graph uses 3-month averages, so it doesn’t show the 2.92 million sq. km record minimum.
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/“The NH sea ice area reached an historic minimum on September 16, 2007 (2.92 million sq. km), representing a 27% drop in sea ice coverage compared to the previous (2005) record NH ice minimum. “
Ya Just Gotta Believe :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1z-hQePzs4
The Cub’s Prayer
OUR TEAM WHICH PLAYS IN WRIGLEY,HALLOWED BE THY FIELD.THY CUBDOM.COMTHY GAMES BE WON ON THE ROADAS IT IS IN WRIGLEY.GIVE US THIS DAY OUR DAILY WIN.
AND LIMIT OUR LOSSES,AS WE INFLICT THEM ON OTHERS.AND LEAD US NOT INTO ERRORSBUT DELIVER US FROM OUR DEFENSIVE WOES:FOR THINE IS THE HITTINGAND THE PITCHING, AND THE FIELDING, FOR EVER.AMEN!
It’s also not “marked off in tenths”. It’s marked in halves — of MILLION’s of square kilometers.
Posted by: cosmos | October 03, 2007 at 08:41 PM
Halves = 0.5 = 5/10ths
The chart was made in tenths using 0.5 as the amplitude but the frequency of the plot was made in tenths.
Here’s one going back to 1900http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/seasonal.extent.1900-2007.jpg
The graph uses 3-month averages, so it doesn’t show the 2.92 million sq. km record minimum.
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/“The NH sea ice area reached an historic minimum on September 16, 2007 (2.92 million sq. km), representing a 27% drop in sea ice coverage compared to the previous (2005) record NH ice minimum. ”
Posted by: cosmos | October 03, 2007 at 08:57 PM
Amazing! All the way back to 1900. So on a planet that is 3 BILLION years old, we forecast climate changes based on 100 years. Can we forecast the weather tomorrow?
How’s that graph look going back say, 10,000 or 100,000 years?
Pete Domenci not running for re-election.http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071003/pl_nm/usa_politics_domenici_dc_1;_ylt=Ajsavcpkm_WYUU2Cuchneo1lM3wV
Well, thats good… Sen. Pete needs a good retirement…
Max, why do you think that would be relevant to what is happening now??
“Wow! A chart marked off in tenths is really impressive!
Put it on a scale of actual temperature in whole degrees and it’s not so impressive. :) “Posted by: Kansas | October 03, 2007 at 03:03 PM
“Halves = 0.5 = 5/10ths
The chart was made in tenths using 0.5 as the amplitude but the frequency of the plot was made in tenths.”Posted by: Kansas | October 03, 2007 at 09:11 PM
Them thar college sciencey-type classes Kansas had decades ago learned him real good! /sarcasm off
The chart is “marked off in” 0.5 intervals. There are NO 1/10th tick marks
-2.5, -2, -1.5, … 1, and 1.5http://tamino.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/seaice2.JPG
The MAIN point is that Arctic sea ice had an sharp decrease this year.http://nsidc.org/news/press/2007_seaiceminimum/images/20071001_septembertrend.jpg
But Kansas would rather waste time lying about how a chart is “marked off”, than consider the future consequences of that sharp decrease of sea ice.
Evidently cosmos, does not know what frequency is.
What’s that last mark for the last three months cosmos? How are those data points plotted out?
Give me the digital number.
Is it -2.5 or -2.0, -1.5 or something in between those? :)
And by the way cosmos, a scale of a charge is extremely significant, especially when you are trying to defraud the public like you are.
As you are on disability “kansas”JM, aren’t YOU defrauding the public?
Clearly you can work a keyboard. Why are you on the dole?
I earn money with my Internet business.
Evidently, the several million veterans on disability and retired medical military are defrauding the government as well.
J R, try not to address this matter, you are making yourself look stupid. It’s quite obvious you don’t know what you are talking about.
You’re quick on a keyboard “kansas”. And you are good at lying.
FOX news is hiring.
Get an education J R and a real job.
Then, you might realize what you type here makes you look like a fool.
Do you report your internet income to the government?
Why do YOU need disability?
Yes, my employer reports it and I file income tax.
The other question you don’t get to know. As Chas would say, it is none of your business.
On another thread JM “Kansas” you say you have 2 residences. And now you boast of interntet income.
Yet you bilk disability?
Good night J R, and get a clue.
Get a clue?
Yeah why don’t you share with me how you bilk the government? Not that I would use it.
Oh you are so busted “kansas”JM
Pit Bull Terriers Kill Owner in Florida
MIDDLEBURG, Fla. — Two pit bull terriers fatally attacked their owner who had raised them since birth, authorities said Tuesday.
Tina Marie Canterbury, 42, was walking to her back yard when the 2-year-old redbone pit bull terriers attacked her, according to the Clay County Sheriff’s Office.
One of Canterbury’s sons tried to help her, but the dogs attacked him. He was not seriously injured, authorities said.
A family friend shot at the dogs to scare them away. A deputy shot one of the dogs. The other dog ran away but was found two hours later and killed, authorities said.
Clay County Sheriff Rick Beseler said he couldn’t remember such a severe dog attack since becoming sheriff three years ago.
There were no signs of dog fighting or other abuse at the Canterbury home, authorities said.
Illegal Aliens are taking over America
with our government’s blessing!
ATG: These are mid-year stats only a minute portion of what is taking place across America. Well over 20 million illegals are now scattered across the country. Our government is so wrapped up in staying in power, accepting funding from the corporations hiring these illegal aliens, that they have done absolutely nothing to stop our being overrun by this nightmare. Billions are being spent on so-called “homeland security” – all to convince us we are secure – hypocrisy at its worst, from those who are supposed to be protecting us.
From the L.A Times:
1. 40% of all workers in L.A. County (L.A. County
has 10 million people) are working for cash and not
paying taxes. This was because they are predominantly
illegal immigrants, working without a green card.
2. 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are
for illegal aliens.
3. 75% of people on the most wanted list in Los
Angeles are illegal aliens.
4. Over 2/3 of all births in Los Angeles County
are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal, whose
births were paid for by taxpayers.
5. Nearly 25% of all inmates in California
detention centers are Mexican nationals here
illegally.
6. Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles
County are living in garages.
7. The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los
Angeles are most likely illegal aliens from south of
the border.
8. Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties
are illegal.
9. 21 radio stations in L.A. are Spanish
speaking.
10. In L.A. County 5.1 million people speak
English. 3.9 million speak Spanish (10.2 million
people in L.A.County).
(All the above from the Los Angeles Times)
Less than 2% of illegal aliens are picking our
crops, but 29% are on welfare.
Over 70% of the United States’ annual population
growth (and over 90% of California, Florida, and New
York) results from immigration.
The cost of immigration to the American taxpayer
in 1997 was, (after subtracting taxes immigrants pay),
a NET $70 BILLION a year, [Professor Donald Huddle,
Rice University]. The lifetime fiscal impact (taxes
paid minus services used) for the average adult
Mexican immigrant is a NEGATIVE number.
29% of inmates in federal prisons are illegal
aliens.
If they can come to this country to raise Hell and
demonstration by the thousands, Why can’t they take
charge over the corruption in their own country?
We are a bunch of fools for letting this continue.
THE U.S. VS MEXICO: On February 15, 1998, the
U.S. and Mexican soccer teams met at the Los Angeles
Coliseum. The crowd was overwhelmingly pro-Mexican
even though most lived in this country. They booed
during the National Anthem and U.S. flags were held
upside down. As the match progressed, supporters of
the U.S. team were insulted, pelted with projectiles,
punched and spat upon. Beer and trash were thrown at
the U.S. players before and after the match. The
coach of the U.S. team, Steve Sampson said, “This was
the most painful experience I have ever had in this
profession.”
Did you know that immigrants from Mexico and other
non-European countries can come to this country and
get preferences in jobs, education, and government
contracts? It’s called affirmative action or racial
privilege. The Emperor of Japan or the President of
Mexico could migrate here and immediately be eligible
for special rights unavailable for Americans of
European descent.
Corporate America has signed on to the idea that
minorities and third world immigrants should get
special, privileged status. Some examples are Exxon,
Texaco, Merrill Lynch, Boeing, Paine Weber, Starbucks
and many more.
DID YOU KNOW?: That Mexico regularly intercedes
on the side of the defense in criminal cases involving
Mexican nationals? Did you know that Mexico has NEVER
extradited a Mexican national accused of murder in the
U.S. in spite of agreements to do so? According to
the L.A. Times, Orange County, California is home to
275 gangs with 17,000 members; 98% of which are
Mexican and Asian. How’s your county doing?
According to a New York Times article dated May
19, 1994, 20 years after the great influx of legal
immigrants from Southeast Asia, 30% are still on
welfare compared to 8% of households nationwide. A
Wall Street Journal editorial dated December 5, 1994
quotes law enforcement officials as stating that Asian
mobsters are the “greatest criminal challenge the
country faces.” Not bad for a group that is still
under 5% of the population.
Is education important to you? Here are the words
of a teacher who spent over 20 years in the Los
Angeles School system. “Imagine teachers in classes
containing 30-40 students of widely varying attention
spans and motivation, many of whom aren’t fluent in
English. Educators seek learning materials likely to
reach the majority of students and that means fewer
words and math problems and more pictures and
multicultural references.”
WHEN I WAS YOUNG: I remember hearing about the
immigrants that came through Ellis Island. They
wanted to learn English. They wanted to breathe free.
They wanted to become Americans. Now, far too many
immigrants come here with demands. They demand to be
taught in their own language. They demand special
privileges–affirmative action. They demand ethnic
studies that glorify their culture.
SORT AND DEPORT !! I am Mexican, get these low life illegals out of her now !!
Oh you’re past dodging JM.
I’ve met the editors. Have you?
Banned as you were and problem that you’ve been….I wonder if I might get an investigative report on you from the editors. It might make a story.
“,” Crook bilks disablility while he gets rich”
“And by the way cosmos, a scale of a charge is extremely significant, especially when you are trying to defraud the public like you are.”
Posted by: Kansas | October 04, 2007 at 12:14 AM
It seems that Kansas is also accusing the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign of “trying to defraud the public”.
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/current.anom.jpg
Kansas would rather waste time lying about graphs, than consider the future consequences of a sharp decrease in Artic sea ice.
“kansas” is JM
And his corner is getting smaller and smaller.
I’ve destroyed posters before. It’s never yet been my priviledge to deliver criminals to the IRS. Come on back “kansas”
Good night; Good luck; and God bless; whatever you conceive Got to be!!
Blessings All!!