Gore and the little green men

The bigger the political news, the bigger the flood of reactions received by The Eagle editorial board from special interest groups. But an “open letter” to Nobel Peace Prize laureate Al Gore from the Maryland-based Paradigm Research Group was a surprise, urging Gore to tell the truth about “an extraterrestrial presence engaging the human race for at least the past 60 years, and propulsion and energy technologies associated with extraterrestrial vehicles obtained by the United States military and under development for decades.”
Posted by Rhonda Holman

38 Comments

  1. Posted October 19, 2007 at 1:06 am | Permalink

    OOoohh, nice cheap shot, Rhonda!

    Impressive. Since you can’t take Gore’s Nobel Prize away from him, at least you can slime its luster.

    Keep it up and maybe in another 20 years, The Eagle will finally give you a by-line . . .

    And where, pray tell, is the link?

    Lemme guess, the National Review or the Weekly Standard?

  2. CapnAmerica
    Posted October 19, 2007 at 1:27 am | Permalink

    And while you’re posting this chuckle-headed nonsense, President-in-Exile Gore is making important statements like this one:

    “the Executive Branch has claimed a previously unrecognized authority to mistreat prisoners in its custody in ways that plainly constitute torture in a pattern that has now been documented in U.S. facilities located in several countries around the world.

    Over 100 of these captives have reportedly died while being tortured by ExecutiveBranch interrogators”

    http://www.acslaw.org/node/2096

    But don’t worry, Editors. When the fascists take over, it will only be REAL news sources who will be pressured to toe the gov’t line.

    Those toeing it already, like you, will be fine . . .

  3. Posted October 19, 2007 at 2:05 am | Permalink

    Yeah, right.

    If the Eagle Editorial Board actually considered “an extraterrestrial presence engaging the human race for at least the past 60 years…” seriously, it explains the lack of insightful reporting the paper has been guilty of for a couple of decades now.

    “It’s a point of view!” We need to report it! Bulls#it.

    The paper will Xerox press releases without question, simply because it’s easier than actually reporting. Every paper does. And, sitting in the middle of Red State Kansas and dependent upon conservative business-owners’ advertising dollars, the Eagle will always tilt to the right.

    It’s always astounding to read the Right Wingnuts snivel about the Eagle’s “leftist leanings.” Anything that shows up in the paper that makes Neo-Cons and Bushevics cranky automatically becomes somebody’s “socialist” conspiracy.

    By giving the “…extraterrestrial presence…” the light of day, even on an intellectual cul de sac such as WEBlog, shows that the Wichita Eagle’s Editorial Board is always willing to pander to those who would deny Al Gore’s important position spreading awareness of Global Warming.

    Ultimately, at the Wichita Eagle, “Things go better with Koch.”

  4. Posted October 19, 2007 at 5:58 am | Permalink

    Good grief . . . try to impart a bit of humor into the blog, and Rhonda gets pencil whipped by capn’ and mh. And here I thought it was just the neo-cons who lacked a sense of humor. Get a life, if not a sense of humor, guys.

  5. NoJoCo
    Posted October 19, 2007 at 6:07 am | Permalink

    Funny stuff, Rhonda, it’s good to see some humor for a change.

  6. Blue Maxx
    Posted October 19, 2007 at 6:38 am | Permalink

    I suppose it would be funny if we hadn’t been inundated with sour grapes from the right about Gore’s Nobel.
    I’m no Gore fan, but a Nobel is a great honor not only for the man, but our country.
    Gore says he’s not going to run for president, so let’s give him the credit he deserves for the award.

  7. Chaz
    Posted October 19, 2007 at 7:36 am | Permalink

    Hey, I am an Art Bell fan. Bring on more “little green men” stories. If there is a cover up going on, then it needs to be uncovered – fast.

    Tell me it aint so that nothing landed in Roswell! I’ve been carrying that torch for years!

    :-)

  8. Joe Williams
    Posted October 19, 2007 at 7:40 am | Permalink

    Wow! People with no sense of humor. Well! At least we know who not to invite to any party.

    Poopers!

  9. outlander
    Posted October 19, 2007 at 7:51 am | Permalink

    Where do you think Al got the tipping point idea? From the Venusians, of course. It was all comfy there and before you could say “zybamhothicphtor”, 900 degrees.

  10. Ed Friedemann
    Posted October 19, 2007 at 8:00 am | Permalink

    Pure racism.

    Being a green little fellow myself, I don’t appreciate it one bit, or two bits either and on and on until I make it back home.

    Talk about slow mechanics, all I had was a flat xygnpwlrqtz, and 60 years to fix it?

  11. J R
    Posted October 19, 2007 at 8:30 am | Permalink

    Smear much Rhonda?

    Was that little pic REALLY necessary?

    I consider it a very real possibility that the government is not being entirely forward as to extraterrestrial matters. You COULD have wrote about that in an analytical, thought provoking way.

    Uh, no, that isn’t you is it?

  12. GMC70
    Posted October 19, 2007 at 8:53 am | Permalink

    JR

    Don’t tell me you read this original topic posting and didn’t crack a smile??

    Seriously??

    Smile, dude. Are your panties always in a wad?

    And – if you’re serious as to your statement that you “consider it a very real possibility that the government is not being entirely forward as to extraterrestrial matters,” well, dude, I wouldn’t worry about all those “faithful readers” placing much credibility in you.

    (Pssst – the moon landing was faked; I have it from a ‘reliable’ source.)

    (Pssst – I also hear that all one must do to win a “peace” prize is make a movie . . . though I’m not sure how that has anything to do with “peace.”)

  13. J R
    Posted October 19, 2007 at 8:59 am | Permalink

    Ah it’s GMC.

    Hey I wouldn’t expect you to consider thought provoking or invvestigative journalism. Or thought even.

    The world and reality are a LITTLE broader and more interesting than law books and ledgers. Do try and broaden your mind.

  14. Posted October 19, 2007 at 9:01 am | Permalink

    (Pssst – the moon landing was faked; I have it from a ‘reliable’ source.)Posted by: GMC70

    So that is how they were able to breathe on the moon.

  15. GMC70
    Posted October 19, 2007 at 9:04 am | Permalink

    Seriously, JR . . .

    did you have your sense of humor surgically removed? That would explain your time in the wilderness, I suppose, with the difficult recovery and all.

    Try this:

    Why does a chicken coop have only two doors?

    Wait . . . .

    Because if it had four doors, it would be a chicken sedan!

    Ka boom.

    Did ya chuckle, JR? Even a little? If not, try a transplant; I hear they can work wonders. They could even give you a personality to go with that sense of humor.

    End of floor show; other duties call!

  16. Posted October 19, 2007 at 9:24 am | Permalink

    Dear Editors,

    I’m with J R. The graphic was, well, a bit much. Putting a Nobel Prize winner with the little green men tends to diminish the former.

    So in order to restore ideological ‘balance,’ we demand the WeBlog must immediately provide a graphic of these same aliens with Rush Limbaugh, Nobel Prize Nominee, as they administer their dreaded ‘probe.’

    Yes, I know. So cruel of me to sear that image into the brains of everyone here.

  17. ken
    Posted October 19, 2007 at 9:34 am | Permalink

    I thought she was being serious.

    http://www.paradigmresearchgroup.org/aboutPRG.html

  18. ken
    Posted October 19, 2007 at 9:35 am | Permalink

    HAH !! – Chris Matthews

  19. Posted October 19, 2007 at 11:07 am | Permalink

    I remember when Jerry Brown ran for president in ‘76, IIRC.

    The press began what was to become a long list of pejoratives for any candidate that didn’t kiss the ass of the corporatocry:

    Jerry Brown became “Gov. Moonbeam”

    Carter was “Malaise days”

    Mondale, “Tax and spend liberal”

    Dukkais, “Taxachusettes”

    (Strangely, Mitt Romney ISN’T from Taxachusettes, even though he’s governor of the same state)

    Dean, “The Scream”

    Gore, “I invented the internet”

    Kerry, Swiftboated

    So, you’ll have to excuse me, GMC, if I don’t see the hilarity in “jokes” like this one that demean good men.

  20. Posted October 19, 2007 at 11:18 am | Permalink

    Cap’N,

    Indeed. Thirty years of gossipy, Right-Wing trivialization, and a press that breathlessly repeats them.

    “Liberal media bias” is a Right Wing ‘Big Lie’ on the order of “6 million dead Jews? What dead Jews?”

  21. Rox
    Posted October 19, 2007 at 11:21 am | Permalink

    Rhonda might have found a better way to present the topic. It WAS difficult to understand what this was about.

  22. Posted October 19, 2007 at 11:34 am | Permalink

    I read the article as a “tongue-in-cheek” approach by Rhonda. Evidently, she has a sense of humor.

    That’s more than I can say than most of the Libs on this board. They take things way too seriously.

  23. GMC70
    Posted October 19, 2007 at 11:54 am | Permalink

    “Liberal media bias” is a Right Wing ‘Big Lie’ on the order of “6 million dead Jews? What dead Jews?”

    Posted by: CF2K | October 19, 2007 at 11:18 AM

    On the hyperbolic BS meter, that one’s an 12. I’d say eleven, but CF may well have, like the immortal Spinal Tap, a meter that goes to eleven.

    To equate the media’s left wing bias (though not nearly as bad as some on the right portray it – and of course bias is indeed in the eye of the beholder) with the “big lie” of the Holocaust denial indeed takes the cake.

    CF you are – perhaps were – a credible voice here, even if we often disagree. Do you really want to blow it with this level of tin-foil ranting?

    Of course, these are the folks who routinely equate disagreement with the “scientific concensus” with holocaust denial. Characteristicly for the left, opinions outside the accepted range are not permitted, and must be ruthlessly suppressed.

    And this over a joke? You didn’t giggle even a little? No wonder y’all’s panties are perpetually in a bundle. You should get in line behind JR for that personality transplant.

    You also wrote:”Putting a Nobel Prize winner with the little green men tends to diminish the former.”

    If that is true, there must not be much there in the first place. Persons of real stature are not dimished by humor; I’ve seen Gore enough to know he can laugh at himself. I suspect he would get a laugh out of this. You should learn that much from him.

    And BTW, it’s not Gore that’s diminished. It’s the Nobel prize, won for making a movie (just how is that a “peace” prize, anyway?). Of course, this is the same Nobel committee that gave a “peace” prize to Yasser Arafat, so it’s hard to imagine how it could be diminshed much.

  24. Posted October 19, 2007 at 12:00 pm | Permalink

    GMC,

    Gore just “made a movie.”

    And Shakespeare just wrote some plays.

    And Elie Wiesel just wrote a book.

    And Mother Theresa just helped some poor people.

    And Desmond Tutu just helped a small group of blacks in Southern Africa.

    Big deal.

  25. GMC70
    Posted October 19, 2007 at 12:06 pm | Permalink

    Capn:

    Are you saying Gore’s movie was on the same par as those other notable persons listed?

    Really?

    Now that is diminishing – to the rest of your list. But they are persons of real accomplishment, and are not tarnished by such association.

  26. Posted October 19, 2007 at 12:09 pm | Permalink

    Hell, yes.

    This “movie” is the single biggest event that has raised people’s awareness of the most dire threat to life as we know it on Earth.

    I think saving the planet is important enough to merit a Nobel Prize, but, hey, that’s just me . . .

  27. J R
    Posted October 19, 2007 at 12:11 pm | Permalink

    Yes well,

    FOr his leading role in bringing the internet to the public?

    Al Gore is quite fairly recognized (by those of honest character and judgement sans politics) as one of the most influential people in history.

  28. Posted October 19, 2007 at 12:14 pm | Permalink

    Oh, for Christ’s sake!

    Yeah — I get it. It was a joke. I think that’s how it was intended, anyway.

    Folks, there’s enough REAL heavy things going on right now–we don’t need to see a private agenda behind every silly post. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

    I’m with Walker on this one.

  29. outlander
    Posted October 19, 2007 at 12:20 pm | Permalink

    “This “movie” is the single biggest event that has raised people’s awareness of the most dire threat to life as we know it on Earth.”

    ———–

    Well that piece of … hyperbole, is spoken like a true believer. Explains the attacks on Rhonda for daring to blaspheme the Goracle, by using humor.

    Preach it!

  30. Posted October 19, 2007 at 12:21 pm | Permalink

    GMC70,

    Actually, I was going for a ‘20′ on the hyperbole meter, so I’m a little disappointed to see that you only give me a ‘10′ or a ‘12.’

    I’m a little surprised that you completely missed the sarcastic tone and phony outrage in my post. Completely. I would have thought that the suggestion to have clay figurines of Rush Limbaugh receiving an anal problem from little green men would have tipped you off, but I guess it’s my bad for overestimating the subtlety of Right Wing humor. Ah, well. Can’t win ‘em all.

    As to my substantive point, not only do I stand by it, I want to make a couple of points as well.

    The media has carried water for this Administration since before it was even elected. The relentless, partisan media attacks on Gore were unending, whereas Bush was treated from the get-go with a light touch and a curious media deference. Bob Somerby has been on this story for almost a decade, so here’s link to his archives for your perusal:

    http://dailyhowler.com/archives-2007.shtml?

    The media’s deference–no, pardon me, the media OBESIANCE to the Bush Administration, and its rigorous self-policing to toe the Administration’s line, becomes all the starker when one considers how the media operated under “Clinton Rules”–reporting of every tidbit fed them by the Right Wing political noise machine, constant questions about the President’s character, constant speculation about his personal life, constant hysteria about investigations that went nowhere and spent lots of taxpayer money.

    While it may or may not be true that bias, like beauty, ‘is in the eye of the beholder,’ it is pretty clear that the media has been effectively intimidated by the Administration and by its citizen minions and their threats.

    We no more have a functioning media that acts in the public interest than we have a functioning democracy at the Federal level. And the Big Lie that the Right has employed in the effort to discredit the media is that it exhibits a “Liberal Bias.” Gotta hand it to the Right: they’ve got the best of both worlds: feed the corporate media’s news cycle a hegemonic, “Fox News” version of events, and then bash them as if they weren’t merely regurgitating the Wingnuts’ own agitprop. Helluva racket, that.

    So, yeah. I regard Roger Ailes as something like Josef Goebbels, and I won’t apologize for making the comparison. The contemporary American Right Wing and Nazi-era fascism are ideological bedfellows and share a common lineage. The only big difference is that the contemporary American Right Wing also employs Stalinist tactics in achieving its ends. Grover Norquist is quite a big fan, actually.

    Oh, and one more thing, GMC70: regardless of what you think, you aren’t the arbiter of validity or of who deserves to get read and who doesn’t. My arguments stand on their own merits, as do your criticisms. It concerns me NOT AT ALL if you intone that soon, your imprinatur that CF2K is somebody ‘worthy of being’ is to be withdrawn.

  31. CapnAmerica
    Posted October 19, 2007 at 12:21 pm | Permalink

    Of course, Gore also trained some 1,000 volunteers to present updated information in the local community as part of his Climate Change Project.

    Organizations I’m involved in sponsored three presentations by Climate Change Project volunteers just in the Wichita area.

  32. Steven Davis
    Posted October 19, 2007 at 12:22 pm | Permalink

    A google search revealed Rhonda’s source:

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071017/NATION02/110170075&template=printart

    If she is quoting the Washington Times, it has to be a joke – intended or not.

  33. Posted October 19, 2007 at 12:22 pm | Permalink

    HA HA HA HA HA HA!

    “Anal problem” should = “anal probe.”

    HA HA HA HA HA HA!

  34. Posted October 19, 2007 at 12:24 pm | Permalink

    Ooops–last line should read “worthy of being read.”

  35. Posted October 19, 2007 at 12:25 pm | Permalink

    Don’t let Capn and CF2K make this article all about them.

    We know the take every thing here on the blog way too seriously. :)

  36. Posted October 19, 2007 at 12:32 pm | Permalink

    “If she is quoting the Washington Times, it has to be a joke – intended or not.”

    Heh, good line, Steven!

    My point: No matter who writes Gore demanding that he listens to their crackpot theory, that clearly isn’t relevant to anything the man has done.

    By that standard, the memory of Pierre de Fermat would be permanently disgraced by all the loopy “proofs” proffered of his famous Last Theorem.

  37. GMC70
    Posted October 19, 2007 at 1:31 pm | Permalink

    “So, yeah. I regard Roger Ailes as something like Josef Goebbels, and I won’t apologize for making the comparison. The contemporary American Right Wing and Nazi-era fascism are ideological bedfellows and share a common lineage. The only big difference is that the contemporary American Right Wing also employs Stalinist tactics in achieving its ends. Grover Norquist is quite a big fan, actually.”

    Now that one hit’s the 20 on the meter, CF!

    And yes, I do not determine who is worthy of being read. However, I routinely am told by your ideological bedmates who has “credibility” or not, so why not join the party.

  38. Posted October 19, 2007 at 2:02 pm | Permalink

    P.S. Noted, above:http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/10/gore-and-the-li.html#comment-86928236

    Point taken.

    Question: In this 24-hour tabloid communications age, is this the reality we have now? Has the spin become the substance?

    No insult to anyone, left, right, center, sideways, both ways with lubrication, whatever. Just asking.