We should know Friday whether Al Gore will look on 2007 as the year he won an Oscar, an Emmy and the Nobel Peace Prize for his global warming warnings. Even so, the big mystery remains whether the former vice president will respond to the growing cry of "Run, Al, Run," including a new song by that name. Some close to Gore are doubtful he’ll change his mind, but as one blogger observed about all the pleading: "Mr. Gore has not said to stop."
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A Nobel Prize would be the Trifecta. The only thing that could top it? The Presidency.
Run, Al, run!
A Judge in England says Gore’s film is propaganda, contains falsehoods, and must be balanced with several facts, if shown to kids in school:
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=071010140820.maha1rmv&show_article=1
I’d like to see him run just to watch the cons here melt down…
He already won once.
That pretty much clinches the “electability” argument.
Re-elect President-in-Exile Al Gore.
Yeah, that’s why it won the Oscar, Econ.
Too bad your Supreme Court couldn’t stop the recount on that vote too, eh?
What did he win the Emmy for?
Yeah Al, Run.
It would appear that once again Al has scammed the gullible. He couldn’t fool those who knew him best (Tennessee) or he would have been prez. The UK got it right. Eleven provable ‘facts’ were falsified. It was a feel good film the the GWers and a cheap prize for the almost prez Al.
The man out-polls “front-runner” Hillary Clinton and he’s not even running.
C’mon, Al.
Do it for America.
I for one (speaking as one of your favorite ‘cons’) would love to see Algore run!
The pure enjoyment of watching Algore and the Hildebeast butting heads could not be topped!
Hank
Wouldn’t it be cool if the next President could force a tax increase to pay for Iraq ONLY ON THOSE WHO SUPPORT THE WAR.
OMGosh, would Mr. Price squeal like a squashed rat then or what?
Pres. Bush:” What’s all this noise about Al Gore and his awards? I’m perfectly able to constipate on a problem and win my own enema, thank you very much!”
Hank I have envisioned that too and would love to see it. My question would be that the media would be in a quandry as to which candidate gets the softball questions. Who would they favor?
Good morning Captain!
Actually, who do you think are paying most of the taxes now?
Hank
Cap I would go for that tax if only bleeding heart liberals had to pay for the Hillarycare and government financed IRA for the ‘needy’.
Wouldn’t it be cool if the next President could force a tax increase to pay for Iraq ONLY ON THOSE WHO SUPPORT THE WAR.
OMGosh, would Mr. Price squeal like a squashed rat then or what?
Posted by: CapnAmerica | October 10, 2007 at 12:52 PM
Wouldn’t it be cool if the next President could force a tax increase to pay for social welfare only on those that support social welfare?
OMGosh, would Mr. CapnAMerica squeal like a squashed rat then or what?
Hey ksgrm,
That’s easy! Algore is a proven loser. In the Dumocrat party and the MSM you don’t get two bites at the apple.
It’s the Hildebeast all the way!
Hank
Say what I hope you and your ilk don’t wake up from the delussions you are operating under until after the newly elected GOP prez is sworn into office. This is a closely guarded secret, so keep it under your hat. Bush isn’t running for prez again.
Ksgrm–
The media was fully invested in electing Bush and crushing Gore.
That’s why you heard “Gore invented the internet” so often, a line that he never claimed.
You still hear it. A good media lie can never be killed.
“A false rumor can go around the world five times before the truth puts its shoes on.” Mark Twain
‘Climate change film to stay in the classroom’
http://education.guardian.co.uk/schools/story/0,,2188015,00.html
“Mr Brennan said: “The judge’s ruling is clear that schools can continue to use An Inconvenient Truth as part of their teaching on climate change in accordance with the amended guidance, which is now available on the TeacherNet website.” He added: “Climate change is the greatest environmental challenge facing the world today. Schools have a special role to play in helping pupils understand its causes and in exploring if and how we should respond….”However, it is important to be clear that the central arguments put forward in An Inconvenient Truth – that climate change is mainly caused by man-made emissions of greenhouse gases and will have serious adverse consequences – are supported by the vast weight of scientific opinion. Nothing in the judge’s ruling today detracts from that.” “
Actually, LJ. I’d be all for that.
I’d gladly pay more taxes for gov’t run health care (proven much cheaper and more efficient) if I didn’t have to pay premiums on my private health care. Actually, it’s “wealth care,” not health care. If you can afford it, you’ve got it. If you can’t, you’re screwed.
If it means I can let CONs die in the street for lack of medical care, then hell yes, it’d be worth every penny.
May you people fully experience the “market-place discipline” you love so much.
May you people fully experience the “market-place discipline” you love so much.
Posted by: CapnAmerica | October 10, 2007 at 01:04 PM
I have. Crying all the way to the bank, too.
Hey capn, move to Canada or Great Britain and see you like the health care then. Where does everyone want to imigrate to? America because of it’s healthcare. Ask healthcare providers in North Dakota how many Canadians come to America for healthcare and pay cash because the Canadian system sticks.
Excuse me, ….stinks…
This right-wing media lie has been de-bunked many, many times on the WEBlog, dtc.
If you want to continue to live in ignorance, go right ahead.
Gore’s Nine Errors per the Judge:
Error one
Al Gore: A sea-level rise of up to 20 feet would be caused by melting of either West Antarctica or Greenland “in the near future”.
The judge’s finding: “This is distinctly alarmist and part of Mr Gore’s ”wake-up call“. It was common ground that if Greenland melted it would release this amount of water – “but only after, and over, millennia.”
Error two
Gore: Low-lying inhabited Pacific atolls are already “being inundated because of anthropogenic global warming.”
Judge: There was no evidence of any evacuation having yet happened.
Error three
Gore: The documentary described global warming potentially “shutting down the Ocean Conveyor” – the process by which the Gulf Stream is carried over the North Atlantic to western Europe.
Judge: According to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), it was “very unlikely” it would be shut down, though it might slow down.
Error four
Gore: He asserted – by ridiculing the opposite view – that two graphs, one plotting a rise in C02 and the other the rise in temperature over a period of 650,000 years, showed “an exact fit”.
Judge: Although there was general scientific agreement that there was a connection, “the two graphs do not establish what Mr Gore asserts”.
Error five
Gore: The disappearance of snow on Mt Kilimanjaro was expressly attributable to global warming.
Judge: This “specifically impressed” David Miliband, the Environment Secretary, but the scientific consensus was that it cannot be established that the recession of snows on Mt Kilimanjaro is mainly attributable to human-induced climate change.
Error six
Gore: The drying up of Lake Chad was used in the film as a prime example of a catastrophic result of global warming, said the judge.
Judge: “It is generally accepted that the evidence remains insufficient to establish such an attribution. It is apparently considered to be far more likely to result from other factors, such as population increase and over-grazing, and regional climate variability.”
Error seven
Gore: Hurricane Katrina and the consequent devastation in New Orleans to global warming.
Judge: There is “insufficient evidence to show that”.
Error eight
Gore: Referred to a new scientific study showing that, for the first time, polar bears were being found that had actually drowned “swimming long distances – up to 60 miles – to find the ice”.
Judge: “The only scientific study that either side before me can find is one which indicates that four polar bears have recently been found drowned because of a storm.” That was not to say there might not in future be drowning-related deaths of bears if the trend of regression of pack ice continued – “but it plainly does not support Mr Gore’s description”.
Error nine
Gore: Coral reefs all over the world were bleaching because of global warming and other factors.
Judge: The IPCC had reported that, if temperatures were to rise by 1-3 degrees centigrade, there would be increased coral bleaching and mortality, unless the coral could adapt. But separating the impacts of stresses due to climate change from other stresses, such as over-fishing, and pollution was difficult.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article2632660.ece
The guidance notes for Al Gore’s ‘An Inconvenient Truth’,http://www.teachernet.gov.uk/sustainableschools/library/resources/library_resource_detail.cfm?id=140
FAQ’s”Q Is there any doubt that increasing levels of man-made CO2 and other greenhouse gases are the main contributor to global warming?
A: There is a strong scientific consensus that man-made emissions of CO2 are the main driver behind rising global temperatures as reflected in the recent report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) http://www.ipcc.ch . There are a small number of scientists who have alternative theories but they are a tiny minority in the scientific community.”
Right Wing media! That will happen only if Hillary turns conservative!
If it means I can let CONs die in the street for lack of medical care, then hell yes, it’d be worth every penny.
May you people fully experience the “market-place discipline” you love so much.
Posted by: CapnAmerica | October 10, 2007 at 01:04
WOw. The hate. Wanting to see people who disagree with you die in the streets. may “You people” fully …
WHo is “You people” and how have faced several times the market place discipline
Capn-
This clearly shows your hate of a]anybody who disagrees with you. Wow. I guess many others here were right. Well, good day to you to sir. ANd by they way, I hope you don;t die in the street. If you fall in my town, I will gladly take care of you, free of charge. I do it everyday. If you have a car wreck, I will be there free of charge, I do it everyday. If your care is on fire, I will there, free of charge, I do it everyday. If you need medical care, and can;t afford it, why not go to one of the clinics for the less fortunte in town. I support them one way or the other every day.
Have a great day, and may you not die in the streets
LJ thank you for the humble way you presented this to Cap. There are many who everyday help those in need. They don’t jump and shout and say look at me. They just do it. These same people don’t want to see the country with a weight around their necks called socialized medicine.
Does that make them bad or just realists. No country who puts the burden of the non-workers on the backs of the workers will have a long existence. History has shown us this again and again.
A thinking person would only have to picture a country inhabited by ‘these people’ to know that the worker bees no matter how hard and long they work will not be able to carry this burden forever.
“… by melting of either West Antarctica or Greenland “in the near future”. ”
Posted by: Max | October 10, 2007 at 01:13 PM
Max, WHY did the “judge” claim that Gore said “in the near future” re Greenland or WAIS melting?
In his documentary clearly Gore only said “if”, with NO time frame given. Same in his AIT book, page 190.
Your “judge” either did not watch Gore’s AIT, or s/he is a liar.
Hey, Al. If you run and win, maybe this time the Bush/Cheney monster won’t be there to cheat you with their own “judge”.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article2632660.ece
Judge: “The only scientific study that either side before me can find is one which indicates that four polar bears have recently been found drowned because of a storm.”
Posted by: Max | October 10, 2007 at 01:13 PM
December 18, 2005, at same timesonline.co.uk site
‘Polar bears drown as ice shelf melts’http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article767459.ece
“SCIENTISTS have for the first time found evidence that polar bears are drowning because climate change is melting the Arctic ice shelf.”
And there are other, more recent “scientific stud[ies]“,http://www.usgs.gov/newsroom/special/polar%5Fbears/
http://www.usgs.gov/newsroom/special/polar_bears/docs/executive_summary.pdf
“• The overall conclusion of the USGS research effort is:Projected changes in future sea ice conditions, if realized, will result in loss of approximately 2/3 of the world’s current polar bear population by the mid 21st century.Because the observed trajectory of Arctic sea ice decline appears to be underestimated by currently available models, this assessment of future polar bear status may be conservative.”
Max’s “judge” seems to be confused?
My Judge? I’d love to own one, but he’s not mine. Don’t kill the messenger.
“My Judge? I’d love to own one, but he’s not mine. Don’t kill the messenger.”
Posted by: Max | October 10, 2007 at 02:25 PM
Max, you copy/pasted his remarks.
Do you believe that he is credible, when he misquoted Gore’s “if” Greenland melted, with NO time frame given, as “in the near future” ?
Max’s “messenger” has no credibility.
Overpopulation
Capn, I personally know healthcare professionals in North Dakota who have told me of the numbers of Canadians who come to them for healthcare they can not receive in Canada until next year. Again, you left wing Hildabeast lover, move to Canada and see if you like the healthcare system. Pull your head out!
When does he get one for creating the internet?
Another democrat lie.
Run AL run
Man, if only the Supreme Court didn’t stop the recount then Gore could have helped America continue it’s prosperity. No pointless war in Iraq, no threat of invading Iran, and a lot less tears shed by military families.
Yeah, and I trust Cosmos more so then I do a judge, right!
You Libs all trust the Government more so then the people!
Big Gov is here to take care of all of us.
Tell it to the Judge Cosmos.
Hey Doug,
If only. . .hehehehehehe
If. . .hehehehehe
If only the Goracle wuld have won his home state! hehehehehehe
Nasty ol’ Supreme Court! hehehehehehe
hehehehehehe
Max,
Do you base your opinions on only one side of an issue? Have you seen Gore’s AIT, or read the book, page 190?
Suppose Max posted: “If [something] happens, then…”, with no time given.
Max seems to believe that it’s credible and honest to say that Max said [something] will happen “in the near future”.
That’s not the GORACLE’s photo!
He’s like a 300 pounder now. :)
Evidently creating all these environmental terrorist stories makes one hungry. Ol’ Al has been slapping on the feed bag quite regularly.
If Al Bore runs again, he’ll have to bow down first to her “Royal Thighness” Clinton and deal with getting Obamanized when the Barak takes him to task on all his pro-war statements during the beginning of the Iraq war.
I bet Move on dot pork will be riding the GORACLE around the goat roping ring as they know the Bore will waffle at first opportunity when it comes to personal glory over substance.
Al Gore – September 23, 2002
‘IRAQ AND THE WAR ON TERRORISM’http://www.commonwealthclub.org/archive/02/02-09gore-speech.html
I’d say it’s sour grapes; still embarrassed by throwing away your last 2 votes for Bush, are we? Look at what that got you!
Go AL!
He DESERVBES a Nobel prize for leading the initiative to bring the internet to the public. Without those efforts, you con yayhoos wouldn’t even have this forum.
And he CERTAINLY deserves a Nobel for bringing this most important of issues to light.
DTC –
Post a credible source (rightwing blogs are not credible).
http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_636.cfm
FROM REUTERS:
By Maggie Fox
Reuters, May 31, 2006
Straight to the Source
Despite complaints about long waits for services, Canadians are healthier than their U.S. neighbors and receive more consistent medical care, according to a report released on Tuesday.
A telephone survey of more than 8,000 people showed that even though Americans spend nearly twice as much per capita for health care, they have more trouble getting care and have more unmet health needs than Canadians do.
The survey was done by Harvard Medical School researchers who include members of Physicians for a National Health Program, which advocates for a national health program in the United States.
*****
But, sh*t, dtc, it was only HARVARD FRICKING MEDICAL SCHOOL. I’m sure your personal anecdotes are just as good as their freaking controlled study . . .
controlled study . . .
translated means
biased study as it was done by
(drum roll)
Physicians for a National Health Program
Good point, Kansas.
May be Oral Roberts University (hahahaha) can do one.
Poor, dtc.
Having to wade through all that reich-wing google crap to find just ONE believable source.
“controlled study” ?
From the article -
“A telephone survey of more than 8,000 people . . . . ”
by
“Physicians for a National Health Program, which advocates for a national health program in the United States.”
THIS is the “controlled study?”
Who are you kidding, Capn?
Physicians are not the only player in the Health Care system.
Everything from Medical Education to the acquisition of drugs and equipment must be considered.
The administration of private medical facilities is best handled by professionals.
Give a hospital building to some government bureaucrats and it will look like a disease hall of festering lunatics within five years.
He may get the Ig-NOBEL award for his silly “movie”, which was just required to put a warning label on in England.
This is the label now required to view the movie.
http://newparty.co.uk/articles/inaccuracies-gore.html
The inaccuracies are:
* The film claims that melting snows on Mount Kilimanjaro evidence global warming. The Government’s expert was forced to concede that this is not correct…It is due to the locals cutting the forest stopping moisture dispersion.
* The film suggests that evidence from ice cores proves that rising CO2 causes temperature increases over 650,000 years. The Court found that the film was misleading: over that period the rises in CO2 lagged behind the temperature rises by 800-2000 years.
* The film uses emotive images of Hurricane Katrina and suggests that this has been caused by global warming. The Government’s expert had to accept that it was “not possible” to attribute one-off events to global warming.
* The film shows the drying up of Lake Chad and claims that this was caused by global warming. The Government’s expert had to accept that this was not the case….its because the locals have sucked it out.
* The film claims that a study showed that polar bears had drowned due to disappearing arctic ice. It turned out that Mr Gore had misread the study: in fact four polar bears drowned and this was because of a particularly violent storm.* The film threatens that global warming could stop the Gulf Stream throwing Europe into an ice age: the Claimant’s evidence was that this was a scientific impossibility.
* The film blames global warming for species losses including coral reef bleaching. The Government could not find any evidence to support this claim.
* The film suggests that the Greenland ice covering could melt causing sea levels to rise dangerously. The evidence is that Greenland will not melt for millennia.
* The film suggests that the Antarctic ice covering is melting, the evidence was that it is in fact increasing.
* The film suggests that sea levels could rise by 7m causing the displacement of millions of people. In fact the evidence is that sea levels are expected to rise by about 40cm over the next hundred years and that there is no such threat of massive migration.
* The film claims that rising sea levels has caused the evacuation of certain Pacific islands to New Zealand. The Government are unable to substantiate this and the Court observed that this appears to be a false claim.
Instead of Gore running for president, I would like to see him as the leader for the US to find alternative energy source.
THEN, Gore will hurt Bush and the Bushies where it hurts the most – in their wallets and portfolios!
Besides, the presidency is really just a puppet postion, as has been demonstrated these past 6 years of GWB.
Besides, the presidency is really just a puppet postion, as has been demonstrated these past 6 years of GWB.
Posted by: indy | October 10, 2007 at 04:44 PM
Wait! I thought Bush was the puppetmaster, or the machievellian genius? If he is not, then who is?
“…why not go to one of the clinics for the less fortunte in town.”
Tell ya what, LJ. You go to one and see what it’s like. It’s not a doctor’s office where you show up for your appointment, wait 30 minutes, tops, then see the doctor. It’s a clinic, where you arrive before the doors open and wait all day, then go back the next day and wait all day. Several days later, you may finally get in to see a doctor that’s so harrassed and worn down, you might wonder if he knows a broken arm from a common cold.
Just how many days off work can a person afford to wait at a clinic to been seen?
No, I haven’t tried any of the clinics in town, but I know people who have. I did take my daughter to the Health Dept. to get a tetanus shot, but that didn’t happen. The waiting room was overflowing. Illegals love free health care more than anyone.
It’s so easy when you’re a Have not to understand what it’s like for the Have Littles or the Have Nots. I’d think you would remember that.
“You Libs all trust the Government more so then the people!”
Max, not the current government, that’s for sure. ;) Or the people who elected the current government, either. :)
Instead of farsighted environmental alarmism that has insignificant scientific support to date,
Gore would be much more effective in getting people to change their habits by painting a scenario that will inflict pain on the average American quicker than Global Warming ever will. That being peak oil. Gore needs to become a peak oil alarmist and convince people to change their lives in expectation of $5/gallon oil.
However, who will believe him now that he has made all of these bogus claims? He can’t even bring his own carbon footprint down to a respectable level.
Instead of spending money on new roads which encourage driving (His father’s creation) and other traditional infrastructure projects, money needs to be directed to solving the problem that oil is not going to be this cheap forever.
Correction- $5/Gallon gasoline.
GMC was much more impressed by dtc’s anonymous unverified 2nd hand anecdotes.
And speaking of dtc, looks like no professional journals back up his position.
What a surprise.
“This is the label now required to view the movie.”
Posted by: mrbill | October 10, 2007 at 04:35 PM
WRONG! Here are a few actual samples.
The guidance notes for Al Gore’s ‘An Inconvenient Truth’,http://www.teachernet.gov.uk/sustainableschools/library/resources/library_resource_detail.cfm?id=140
“But it is generally accepted that the causative relationship between CO2 and temperature over the last 650,000 years goes BOTH ways and that, now, it is CO2 which is driving temperature.”
Hurricane Katrina,”However, the IPCC concludes that it is likely that there has been an increase in intense tropical cyclone activity in some regions and more likely than not that humans have contributed to this: see http://www.ipcc.ch ”
“It [a 2005 study by Monnet, Gleeson and Rotterman] also predicts that drowning-related deaths of polar bears may increase in the future if the trend of regression of pack ice and/or longer open water continues.”
Re CH4’s skeptic film, ‘Great Global Warming Swindle’,
“Alternative theories on the causes of climate change, such as those set out in the CH4 documentary, are not accepted by the vast majority of the scientific community. An analysis of these alternative theories is included on the Royal Society website, visit http://www.royalsoc.ac.uk/page.asp?id=6229&gclid=CNH6k_OPzIsCFQ3olAodd1UHAw “
Capn
The whole POINT of Gore’s movie is to get the public to “take action” now.
If Gore was only trying to say that the ocean would rise in 1,000 years, or that Greenland Ice would melt in 1,000 years, that really doesnt serve Gore’s purpose does it?
It was a misleading error of ommission, done deliberately, even if Gore’s GW theory is correct.
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=071010135718.abucc7eu&show_article=1
pot heads use too much power “causing” global warming!
For Gore, taking action now means using different light bulbs and driving smaller cars.
Hmmm, perhaps with all that creative hyperbole, he could have spent a little extra time in the movie to tell us what really needs to be done to lower anthropogenic emissions to solve the problem (granting that his thesis is correct).
Gore doesn’t deserve a Peace Prize. If he does, then it was a purely political stance and not one of Peace.
Gore hasn’t done a single thing towards peace and freedom. All he did was do a presentation on film that he never wrote, researched or studied himself. He has staff and handlers that do that.
Gore is an egotistical politician. He is trying to build a legacy for himself because he’s a loser. If he would have won the Presidency, Gore wouldn’t have done anything or made a stink about Global Warming at all.
Global Warming isn’t Gore’s passion, it’s his legacy. If it wasn’t Global Warming, then it would be AIDS in Africa or Food for starving people in 3rd world countries. Anything to make himself known and in the spot light.
Usually they give Peace Prizes to people who work their entire lives at something they are passionate about. Mother Teresa or any others. There has yet been a Peace Prize given for a person who only took a stance on an issue for just a couple of years.
Sorry! But Gore shouldn’t win.
Growing pot would be a lot more environmentally friendly if it were allowed to be planted outdoors. So this is a pointless argument since it has to be hidden away from sunlight. Neo-nutcons will go to any lengths. Then again, it’s Paul posting so naturally he never knows what he’s talking about.
I think there is an important point of order here.
I’m gonna ask of Gore’s critics that post here, qualify your post.
By that I mean preface your post with “I’ve seen Gore’s film and…..then cite anything Gore did in the film that was negative.
Oh and if you SAY you’ve seen the film? Make sure you actually have. Honesty in blogging.
Hmm
Joe is able to post to this forum due to Gore taking the initiative in making the internet available to the public.
Well, ya take the bad with the good I guess.
Econ101,
Scientists do not know how much sea levels will rise, nor how soon.
Ignoring all of the uncertainties, the recent increase in ice sheet flow, the record low Arctic sea ice extent last month, etc is WRONG.
IPCC re future sea level rise:
“Models used to date do not include uncertainties in climate-carbon cycle feedback nor do they include the full effects of changes in ice sheet flow, because a basis in published literature is lacking….The corresponding future temperatures in Greenland are comparable to those inferred for the last interglacial period 125,000 years ago, when palaeoclimatic information suggests reductions of polar land ice extent and 4 to 6 m of sea level rise. {6.4, 10.7}”
Cosmos! Question for you. As a political environmentalist, I’m assuming you know all the key scientist involved in the Global Warming issue.
Which do you pick to be a Noble Peace Prize Winner?
Cosmos–
Have you seen the argument that CO2 FOLLOWS temperature instead of causing it?
In other words, warming temps cause more CO2, not the other way around?
It sounds bogus to me. What’s your take?
DougThey discover the pot growers because they use huge amounts of electricity.It seems humorous to me, as many of you tree huggers who tell the rest of us what to do are pot heads who buy greenhouse grass, that uses electricity that requires tons and tons of COAL!
LJ – As if you really don’t know, let me enlighten you. Dick Cheneyn has been running the little sock puppet for the last 6 years. Why else do you think Junior surrounded himself with the old fart?
Greenhouse Grass causes:Greenhouse Gas!
Capn,
In the past, other factors (orbit change, etc) triggered the warming trend. That warming then increased the amount of CO2, which further amplified the warming.
Or to rephrase, if the CO2 had not increased, there would have been less warming.
But now, human-added CO2 (and other GHG’s) are “triggering” the warming.
‘The lag between temperature and CO2. (Gore’s got it right.)’http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2007/04/the-lag-between-temp-and-co2/
http://www.skepticalscience.com/co2-lags-temperature.htm
Joe Williams,
You do know that Gore took a college class in the late 1960’s, under Dr. Roger Revelle, don’t you?
And that Gore asked Dr. Revelle to be the lead-off witness in the first Congressional hearing held re global warming?
Gore didn’t get it right. The scientist did. Gore didn’t do shit! He’s not a scientist. He doesn’t bring anything new to the issue nor is he the spokeperson to announce new scientific findings relating to global warming.
Quit saying Gore got it right! It’s a huge diservice to the teams of scientist who have dedicated their research to Global Warming. Credit the scientist.
Also, a NATURAL DROP in CO2 seems to have triggered an ice age.
http://researchnews.osu.edu/archive/wethring.htm
“The rise of the Appalachian Mountains may have caused a major ice age approximately 450 million years ago, an Ohio State University study has found.
The weathering of the mountains pulled carbon dioxide (CO2) from the atmosphere, causing the opposite of a greenhouse effect — an “icehouse” effect….It also reinforces the notion that CO2 levels in the atmosphere are a major driver of Earth’s climate.”
Joe Williams,
Gore’s AIT, and his earlier book, ‘Earth in the Balance’ DID get the science right.
Unlike Martin Durkin’s error-filled deception, the ‘Great Global Warming Swindle’.
Cosmos!
media.hoover.org/documents/0817939326_283.pdf
Sorry! The feeble attempts of the Goreites to link Gore to a life long Global Warming crusade is ridiculous.
Especially since Dr. Revelle revealed that he was highly skeptical of taking drastic action on Global Warming. He concluded that the science was too uncertain to cause drastic change.
Looks like Gore didn’t listen to his suppose Mentor close enough.
Gore’s a political hack! Jesus people! Can’t you see that?
His first book, although he is credited in writing it (some people are skeptical that he did), has a lot of suspect science in it, which most have been discredited. The short book was mostly a social justice outcry against capitalism and that everybody should adopt eco-friendly ways (except for him of course).
After that, many critics ask on Gore, “what has he done since publishing his book to advance the political feasibility of decisive environmental action?” When he was Vice President for 8 years, when he had the platform to push his religion.
But he did nothing until he lost to Bush and had to re-invent himself. Thinking the old enviromentalist thing he played around with in the early 90’s to help him become Vice President would play again.
I wonder if Gore will go back to his old buddy, Fred Phelps and to the explicit lyrics labeling effort again.
“The feeble attempts of the Goreites to link Gore to a life long Global Warming crusade is ridiculous.”
Posted by Joe Williams.
Excuse me if I don’t believe a tobacco and oil industry contractor.http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Fred_Singer
http://home.att.net/~espi/Cosmos_myth.html
“1. Revelle did not write the Cosmos article.
2. S. Fred Singer claimed sole authorship of the major statements of the article in his ES&T paper months before he put the finishing touches on his Cosmos Masterpiece.
3. If S. Fred Singer is sole author of this material, then Revelle cannot be an author.
4. If S. Fred Singer is not sole author of this material, then he has admitted in his deposition to ethical concern about one author publishing under his own sole authorship material that was co-authored.
5. Revelle appears not to have had full information — not about the ES&T publication and not about the many energy-industry agents who were busy at work here.”
Only probablem with the current GW theory by the alarmist is that CO2 has a max absorption rate of radiation (heat energy) before the energy has to dissipate (goes farther up in the stratosphere) and escapes.
Scientist estimate the absorption rate of somewhere between 650-750ppm.
The alarmists had to shift their theories from lower to upper atmosphere in order for their alarmist views to work.
Now that science had stubbed the toes of the alarmist view, they have no other choice than to re-state their case and say it is going to happen sooner if we reach the so-called “tipping point.”
What they don’t say is that the real “tipping point” is when temperatures will once again normalize. The law of equilibrium space concerning matter and energy better known as the laws of thermodynamics will take place.
Trying to regulate the puny 2.5 percent of man made CO2 in the atmosphere is like trying to regulate where your spittle goes once you spit into a lake.
Re Kansas,
DNFTT.
If Gore would run it would be great.
Gore is too fat to run.
“Peak Oil” is a Myth.
http://www.investmentu.com/IUEL/2007/20070122.html
We don’t need reserves to be more than projected need over more than a dozen years or so.
Therefore, reserves always grow as needs grow.
Also, however, the a large segmetn of the investment world does not believe that oil is a great investment, right now, primarily BECAUSE we think that “peak oil” is a myth, for the most part.
And, we also KNOW that some alternatives will be successful.
The same people who own oil stocks and untility stocks will also own the stock of any company that comes up with an alternative.
Generally, investors care more about profit than they do about politics.
Besides, I don’t know any conservatives, or any investment advisors who have anything against new ideas, we just remain cautious and skeptical.
Prudence and Ethics requires such caution, in the investment world.
Gore may be “pleasantly plump”, but at least he’s smart.
George Bush is the most perfect example of the “Peter Principle” I’ve ever seen.
As mush as I dislike Bush. I have to say, that Bush is and would be a better President than Gore.
All through out his school years, Gore scored in the bottom half of this class. He couldn’t muster Harvard College in English, so he went to Government. After studying religious studies (Fred Phelps anyone), he tried law school but was a wash out.
Al Gore then after his brief journalism career in the military, went into politics riding on his Dad’s coattails and money. We was elected, but was unopposed by a Republican candidate in all of the elections, including his Senate seat.
Although both AL Gore and Bush has ever released an IQ test results, the consensus is that Bush is around 138 and Gore is about 133.
To me, Albert Gore Jr is a religious nut job and with his limpy weak voice and spineless back, I’m glad he didn’t become President.
And I’m not being political bias. William Clinton was by far a much better President than Bush and way smarter also. But Gore isn’t nothing more than a Fred Phelps disciple in my eyes.
Mary, please grow up. Algore is about as off center, left that is, as you can get. Where are all the hurricanes because of global warming? Has NY city or Los Angles gone under water yet? No, I think not. Algore is the definition of the “Peter Principle”.
Well thank you for sharing all that Joe!
I’m SURE the Nobel committee is very concerned about your opinion.
The man took the initiative in making the internet public. That makes Gore one of the most important and influential people in the history of the human race.
JR, please tell me that your last post was pure sarcasm. If not, please get a clue!
LOL..I’ll NEVER believe that Bush is smarter than Gore! I can’t believe you’d even say that. Bush is the one who got where he is because of his daddy..and HIS academic achievements are nothing to brag about..didn’t he graduate with something like a 2.3 GPA?
dtc…you obviously don’t understand the concept of global warming. Gore would make a great prez!
My last post was entirely serious. Would you care to dispute it on merit?
You’re just a conservative and so hate Gore.
And you have my sympathies. Perhaps one day they will find a cure for narrow minds.
dtc..”better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt”!
Gore may be “pleasantly plump”, but at least he’s smart.George Bush is the most perfect example of the “Peter Principle” I’ve ever seen.
Posted by: Mary Caruso | October 10, 2007 at 08:35 PM
One of Gore’s more brilliant (cough) moments is when he said while watching the Chicago Bulls and Michael Jordan play…
“That Michael Jackson sure can play!”
Duh on the GORACLE – confusing two black men – must be some closet racism there.
Hey “kansas”?
Is that sorta like when bush waved….to Stevie Wonder?
Gore got where he was at because of Daddy.
Bush graduated with an MBA from Harvard Business School. The toughest and most rigorous in the world. Gore wouldn’t have been able to do that. He’s a washout.
Anybody that sides with Fred Phelp’s to me isn’t a person that exercises smart judgment.
Being a religious environmentalist doesn’t make you smart.
Bush can at least hold his own politically. Defeating Ann Richards, Gore and Kerry, while Gore always had an easy pass.
Al Gore’s daddy, when he was in Congress voted against major civil rights legislation, including the Civil Rights Act of 1964. After his daddy was voted out of office, he decided to go to work for petroleum and coal companies and even sat in as a board of directors. Especially Occidental Petroleum, which has a terrible environmental record and especially human rights record and is known for killing people in South America. And Al Gore’s daddy fought to protect this company.
Mary, all your posts about Algore are foolish. You should practice what you preach. I think your liberal social worker side has really stunted your thinking processes. So much you think Algore is God. Whoa!!!
Hey “kansas”?
Is that sorta like when bush waved….to Stevie Wonder?
Posted by: J R | October 10, 2007 at 09:15 PM
Stevie Wonder always has a “sight” escort to tell him what is happening around him.
JR, I don’t hate liberals or people so decieved they don’t when to come in out of the rain. Give me some REAL facts about Algore and his stances, not hot air.
Joe?
DO you remember when we all told you we would remind you when you look like an idiot?
You’re doing it now.
Global warming? Didn’t we Gore that ox?
You go Joe. You are not looking like an idiot. You tell the truth, liberals can not understand that. Also, they can not take it when the truth is stairing them in the face.
“Give me some REAL facts about Algore and his stances, not hot air.”
Posted by: dtc | October 10, 2007 at 09:34 PM
Okay dtc, you can start with these,
‘Al Gore’s movie’http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=299
‘The lag between temperature and CO2. (Gore’s got it right.)’http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2007/04/the-lag-between-temp-and-co2
cosmos points to a blog and expects us to believe some crack pot’s opinion.
Where are the peer reviewed science actual documents?
…not some bloviating gas bag on a blog.
Come on Cosmos, Algore’s movie is not fact. The other entry does have some merit. It shows graphs of temperature and sea level, however it only goes back to the 1800’s. What happened 500 years ago? 1000 years ago? How do you know the temperature and sea levels weren’t higher than now? It is a proven fact the earth’s patterns have changed over time, ie–ice age, etc. How do you know this is not a swing up prior to a swing down? Let’s wait 500 years and see.
Max,
Do you base your opinions on only one side of an issue? Have you seen Gore’s AIT, or read the book, page 190?
Suppose Max posted: “If [something] happens, then…”, with no time given.
Max seems to believe that it’s CREDIBLE and HONEST to say that Max said [something] will happen “in the near future”.
Gore is a dope:
“Gore’s undergraduate transcript from Harvard is riddled with C’s, including a C-minus in introductory economics, a D in one science course, and a C-plus in another. “In his sophomore year at Harvard,” the Post reported, “Gore’s grades were lower than any semester recorded on Bush’s transcript from Yale.” Moreover, Gore’s graduate school record – consistently glossed over by the press – is nothing short of shameful. In 1971, Gore enrolled in Vanderbilt Divinity School where, according to Bill Turque, author of “Inventing Al Gore,” he received F’s in five of the eight classes he took over the course of three semesters. Not surprisingly, Gore did not receive a degree from the divinity school. Nor did Gore graduate from Vanderbilt Law School, where he enrolled for a brief time and received his fair share of C’s. (Bush went on to earn an MBA from Harvard).
http://www.larryelder.com/Gore/goredubiousrecord.htm
Gore also writes in the same writing style as Theodore Kazcynki, the Uni Bomber. The similarities are startling!
Hey econ Paul must be right.
I bet he has an email from Gore’s roomates girlfriend.
Gore deserves a Nobel for his contribution to the internet alone.
The u.s. spends roughly 200 billion a year, waging the war on drugs, and its reported every year that the war on drugs is making no impact. No impact, thats a lot of money being wasted. The Just Say No campaign actually has negative effects. This gives drugs a certain appeal factor, especially since teenagers are naturally rebellious due to hormones, some tend to resort to drug use, since it has a rebellious appeal. What schools don’t do is educate students about the negative health, and social impacts of drug use, or educate students about each drug, how it works and its effects. What schools are essentially doing is pumping out propaganda the kids can see through, this in turn makes illegal substances more appealing to some kids.
Anyway, about Al Gore, I don’t think he really deserves any award, he hasn’t really done much, except awarness campains, and he threw a huge concert that used up tons of electricity, and made tons of litter in the parking lot.
“Gore is a dope:”
Posted by: Econ101 | October 10, 2007 at 10:17 PM
I guess that explains why Gore was a Harvard cum laude graduate? Eh???
Econ101, please correct any errors in this Wiki section,http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_gore#Education
He couldn’t fool those who knew him best (Tennessee) or he would have been prez.
Posted by: ksgrm
lolyeahthat’s it. tennessee is a very bright place.
isn’t that where fred and his grandaughter come from?
“Anyway, about Al Gore, I don’t think.”
Posted by: WhiteElephant | October 10, 2007 at 10:30 PM
If it’s okay for Max, and other gullible people to believe misquotes of Gore, then I guess it’s 100% okay for me to misquote WhiteElephant?
“Gore’s grades were lower than any semester recorded on Bush’s transcript from Yale.”
lolwowit’s sad that the president’s transcript is used as the low for college grades to be compared against.
who voted for bush the idiot ??
oh yeahYOU did.hahahaha
btw, how did that work out ??
Falwell Pastor Found Dead In Wetsuit After Autoerotic Mishap
Dead Reverend’s Rubber FetishAutopsy: Pastor found in wet suits after autoerotic mishap
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/1008072scuba1.html
it sucked to be him.another neo-con bites the dust.
new quiz…
this wack job goes to heaven or hell ??
Gore also writes in the same writing style as Theodore Kazcynki, the Uni Bomber. The similarities are startling!
Posted by: Kansas
well kansassyou must be the first person i’ve ever heard about who has read enough of the crap the uni-con wrote to be able to compare it to someone else.
it’s startling that someone allows you access to their computer.
http://www.larryelder .com/Gore/goredubiousrecord.htmPosted by: Econ101
larry elder ???you gotta be kiddin right ??
“the sage from south central”
there’s something magical about a black man who sells out his entire race to become a rich neo-con.
for some reason i’m thinking ol’ larr is the only minority you have ever looked at or listened to in your entire sad little life.
correct eCON ??
Bush is smarter than anyone who writes on this Blog, including me.
Any Harvard MBA grads out there?
Anyone else make it through Air Force Fighter Training?
Anyone else get elected to President TWICE after serving as Governor?
Oh, sorry, that last one didnt count for much.
After all, he only defeated the lightweights John Kerry and Al Gore!
Put on your bush underoos. Crawl under your bush comforter. Gaze at the bush poster on your ceiling and drift off dreaming sweet dreams of geroge there Econ.
Pitiable.
Some
Ok, for starters:
NEOCON is actually a racially charged term. It actually applies to Jewish Republicans.
You folks on this Blog are rather ignorant of that fact.
I would rather consider you ignorant than anti-semetic.
Now further to the point: I have eaten lunch, sitting at the same table, with JC Watts on 2 occassions. I have heard him speak countless times.
Ambassador Alan Keyes has also been involved in Kansas fund raising for certain candidates, and I have helped in those events.
I was a member of Sigma Phi Epsilon Frat on the WSU campus.
One of the more memorable stories from those days is when my golden-gloves boxer room mate, Jessie, a Mexican American, was walking across the parking lot and a rival frat-rat came up behind him and said, “you guys throw great parties, but why do you let N—-rs in you Frat?”
Jessie turned around calmly and said, “Same reason we pledge Mexicans” and knocked him out with one punch.
I personally did the same thing, pretty much, to a guy from a different Frat who spray-painted the “N” word on the side of our House. I had been in the Marines and in Tae Kwon Do for years, but I have to admit, nobody ever punched me as hard as Jessie, when we worked out. Therefore, when Jessie decided to break up that fight, I did what he told me to do. Mostly out of respect, somewhat out of fear, lol.
I think, perhaps, you should get to know me better before guessing about me.
I have paid my dues on the “racism” issue.
I believe that I was on the side of the angels.
How did you behave, on this issue, in your early 20’s?
“I have eaten lunch, sitting at the same table, with JC Watts on 2 occassions.”
Posted by: Econ101 | October 10, 2007 at 11:30 PM
Does Econ101 expect to be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for that?
Econ101, scientists do not know how much sea levels will rise, nor how soon.
Ignoring all of the uncertainties, the recent increase in ice sheet flow, the record low Arctic sea ice extent last month, etc is WRONG.
The IPCC, re future sea level rise:”Models used to date do not include uncertainties in climate-carbon cycle feedback nor do they include the full effects of changes in ice sheet flow, because a basis in published literature is lacking….The corresponding future temperatures in Greenland are comparable to those inferred for the last interglacial period 125,000 years ago, when palaeoclimatic information suggests reductions of polar land ice extent and 4 to 6 m of sea level rise. {6.4, 10.7}”
Econ101, please try to think on a bigger, global scale than your past “lunches”, frat parties, etc.
“4 to 6 [meters] of sea level rise” makes your past “lunches” very, very insignificant.
“The corresponding future temperatures in Greenland are comparable to those inferred for the last interglacial period 125,000 years ago, when palaeoclimatic information suggests reductions of polar land ice extent and 4 to 6 m of sea level rise. {6.4, 10.7}”
cosmos does not understand that 125,000 years ago is not today.
(uses cosmos own phraseology against him)
:)
cosmos,
If you look upthread, somebody pretty much called me a racist.
Some things can’t go unchallenged.
(emphasis added)”The corresponding *** __ FUTURE __ *** temperatures in Greenland are comparable to those inferred for the last interglacial period 125,000 years ago, when palaeoclimatic information suggests reductions of polar land ice extent and 4 to 6 [meters] of sea level rise. {6.4, 10.7}”
Posted by: Kansas | October 11, 2007 at 12:12 AM
Re the multi-named, lying “Kansas”,
DNFTESFT — Do not feed the extremely STUPID FAT troll.
cosmos, I would be interested in a discussion of global warming/ climate change with you…however I do not have the time necessary for it until Sunday AM. I’ll meet you (and anyone else capable of rational discourse without resorting to insults) here then…just bring an open mind.
Thanks, Cosmos.
I knew it was probably something like that since the “debate” I watched on YouTube cited “experts” who had been debunked and discredited.
Wade,
Okay… but please do some homework first, and read ALL of the peer-reviewed, published science reports before next Sunday, at http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/wg1/wg1-report.html
That’s not the most recent climate science, but it’s a start.
do my homework?? LOL…don’t worry about that…
Econ–
Wow, kicking frat-boy ass for diversity.
I just kicked their ass because they were frat boys, but I digress . . .
“Neo-con” is not code for “Jewish.”
The neocon movement has a long and convoluted past and some of its strongest supporters have been ethnic (as opposed to practising) Jews: Norman Podhortz, Irving and William Kristol, Douglas Feith, Paul Wolfowitz and Richard Perle.
But many in the movement have no ties to Judaism: the Bush family, Cheney, Jeanne Kirkpatrick, Condi Rice, Newt Gingerich, Trent Lott, and Thomas Donnelly.
Capn,
Re the debunked climate “experts”(sic), these vids are a real hoot!
Martin Durkin’s film was supposed to debunk Al Gore, the IPCC, et al — but Durkin stammers, gets the flop sweats, etc..
Global Warming Swindle Interview Pt1 8:43http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIjGynF4qkE
Global Warming Swindle Interview Pt2 9:57http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goDsc9IaSQ8
also,http://www.desmogblog.com/a-great-global-warming-swindle-library
The last sentence is very accurate… and LOL funny.
‘Move to block emissions ’swindle’ DVD’http://environment.guardian.co.uk/climatechange/story/0,,2064925,00.html
“Sir John Houghton, former head of the Met Office, and Bob May, former president of the Royal Society, are among 37 experts who have called for the DVD to be heavily edited or removed from sale. The film, the Great Global Warming Swindle, was first shown on March 8, and was criticised by scientists as distorted and misleading….Dr Allen said: “What Martin Durkin and Channel 4 don’t understand is the way science works. Science is about the arguments, not the people who make them.”…The letter was coordinated by Bob Ward, a former press officer with the Royal Society. He said: “This isn’t about censorship, it’s a question of quality control.
We have no objection to the DVD being distributed if all the errors are corrected, but if they correct all the errors then the whole premise of the program will fall to pieces.” “
“do my homework?? LOL…don’t worry about that…”
Posted by: Wade | October 11, 2007 at 12:55 AM
Translation: Wade is very ignorant, and clueless.
Paul, it’s about time you stop pretending you know what you are talking about. Just because someone grows pot does not mean they are an environmentalist. Just like because someone likes anonymous gay sex doesn’t make them a Republican.
Okay, cosmos, I see you already don’t understand the part about no insults…*******For your information, I’ve got a degree in mathematics (Real Analysis) and was 4 hours short of doubling in Physics (Optics). What do you have??
For your information, I’ve got a degree in mathematics (Real Analysis) and was 4 hours short of doubling in Physics (Optics). What do you have??
Posted by: Wade | October 11, 2007 at 04:08 AM
Yeah, riiiiight….Wonderful thing about blogs…you can claim to be anything.
cosmos is ashamed to give his degree.
It’s probably English Literature or some other Liberal Arts degree.
A school headmaster in the UK objected to the showing of Gore’s enviornment film to this students on the basis it wasn’t factual.
The High Court has agreed it is not factual in 9 different areas and upheld the ban. Don’t know what the 9 areas are though, I just heard it on a telecast originating from London.
I guess that makes XXX a projectionist…
Yeah, Kansas, and you won’t explain how you got shot down over Iraq when no plane has been shot down over Iraq in like 20 years . . .
Cosmos’ degree is wholly irrelevant. That’s the idea behind a college education–it prepares one to deal with evidence no matter what the background.
Unless you’re willing to explain some of your doubtful revelations, you have no right to call for others to do the same.
Doug
I at first hit a nerve with YOU, when I said:
Greenhouse Grass causesGreenhouse Gas!
Your first response was, basically, that if we made pot legal you would not be “forced” to grow it indoors.
Or, was it you that responded that way? Sorry if I have you confused with another defensive lib.
Capn
They called us “Nig Eps” get it?
Nope, I didn’t think it was very funny either.
OMG, why am I NOT surprised that Paulie was a Sig Ep? Heheheh. The fratiest of the frats….
All sig eps everywhere must be SO PROUD of him and his backward ideas.
And this isnt an anti greek rant either. I was a sorority girl, believe it or not. Pledge master. heheheheheh!
Capn, please change your name to comraderooskie, you definitely are not American!
sursum,
I gave a link to the offical U.K. guidance notes, and some examples, upthread,
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/10/an-oscar-emmy-a.html#comment-85972420
Paul, as usual you don’t know what you are talking about. Is the only way you can get an erection is to make yourself look foolish? Science certainly isn’t your forte, neither is logic or common sense.
Wade,
Compare your math degree, to the degrees, and research done by the hundreds of scientists listed in the annex here.
http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/wg1/wg1-report.html
dtc–
WithoutAnyContent,KookyExecrable andDemeaning
Or . . . WACKED, for short.
‘3 Reasons Gore Deserves the Nobel Peace Prize’http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joseph-romm/3-reasons-gore-deserves-t_b_68112.html
“If we avoid catastrophic global warming, Al Gore’s tireless efforts to educate the nation and the world will be a major reason. He will have prevented untold humanitarian crises and countless regional conflicts. Gore would bring honor to the award.”
‘Climate Change Tops Nobel Peace Guesses’http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g7HekgTpryrGQ3WAMmmO9E-O4sQgD8S757OG0
“This year, climate change was considered high on the international agenda. The U.N. climate panel has been releasing reports, talks are set to resume on a replacement for the Kyoto Protocol, and there is concern about the melting Arctic.
Jan Egeland, a Norwegian peace mediator and former U.N. undersecretary for humanitarian affairs, called climate change more than an environmental issue.
“It is a question of war and peace,” said Egeland, now director of the Norwegian Institute of International Affairs in Oslo. “We’re already seeing the first climate wars, in the Sahel belt of Africa.” He said nomads and herders are in conflict with farmers because the changing climate has brought drought and a shortage of fertile lands.”
Comraderooskie, do you have your traveling visa yet? Better get it before the republicans get elected in 2008. You may have to stay. Good ridance.
Farmgirl
Was the door still RED, when you walked out of the house? LOL(inside joke)
Actually;
Archie Bunker was a Sig Ep. I am sure that will make you laugh!
Besides Carrol O’conner, we were one of the first Frats to ban hazing, nationwide. We also integrated long before most other frats.Today, they are known for having the highest GPA, on average, on a regular basis.That is not, quite, what we were famous for when I was there!It was like “That 70’s Show” mixed with “Animal House”. Huge, diverse mix.
DougWould you calm down?
Honestly, Doug, if you were an attorney, I think you would walk into Court and say:
“Your honor, and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Jury, do not trouble yourself with deliberating any of the weighty issues before you. These things are just too complicated for your feeble minds. Allow me to tell you what to think. My superior intellect should obviously prevail”
farmgirl
You didnt use that paddle did you?
;)
LOL…maybe you shouldn’t be assuming that I’m going to argue against global warming, cosmos…
Wade,
LOL youself. You seem to have the time to make multiple posts here, but not the time for a “discussion”.
And if you understand the scientific method, then you know that it’s about research, not “discussions”.
Econ101,
It seems that you’re not even smart enough to realize that Doug’s point was valid.
You do NOT seem to understand science. And your logic, and common sense is lacking, to be polite. :)
I have been posting during my break and lunch periods, which is hardly adequate time for a serious discussion of anything, although I suppose it is sufficient time for someone who seems to have only mastered copy-and-paste, as opposed to presenting any ideas of your own. But I see now it is pointless to waste my time with you…you have no ambition to do anything but come in here and blather and posture, as opposed to actually doing anything about the problem.
One other point…it is past time for research and now time for action, which does require discussion of what needs to be done and the means necessary to implement the corrections.
Vice-President Gore, congratulations on receiving the Nobel Peace Prize. The award is richly deserved.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/13/world/13nobel.html?hp
Climatologically and existentially, humanity really is in uncharted territory. Al Gore had the vision
““We face a true planetary emergency,” Mr. Gore said in the statement. “The climate crisis is not a political issue, it is a moral and spiritual challenge to all of humanity. It is also our greatest opportunity to lift global consciousness to a higher level.”
Congratulations, Vice-President Gore.
Irena Sendler should have one. She is a real hero to the people.
But we all knew that Al Gore would win, because it’s purely political. When you have religious nut jobs like Mother Teresa, Yasser Arafat and now Al Gore winning, it’s all political and has nothing to do with Peace.
Oh well! Doesn’t change my mind about Gore. He still just a political hack. But enjoy the spot light Gore, because it won’t last long.
Joe
Don’t forget Jimmuh Cahtuh.
An interesting history of those nominated for the Nobel, and those who won.
Lots of tyrants, lots of scam artists, lots of historically forgotten people who knew how to whip up attention, in their time, for this purely political prize:
http://www.newsmax.com/lowell_ponte/gore_nobel/2007/10/10/39694.html?s=al&promo_code=3B49-1
And the usual roaches crawl from the woodwork to attack the man who by his efforts, allowed them this forum. Such gratitude.
Cosmos and Doug need a cheerleader, here is a good start for the cheer:
“Thats alrightThats OKWere still smarterThan YOUToday”
The internet would have happened WITHOUT Gore.
As the book: Megatrends, says, “Leaders are people who figure out which way the parade is marching, and run fast enough to get in front of them.”
This was, of course, a slam against opinion polls, group-think and celebrity issue whores.
Gore has a history of jumping on band wagons.
He did it with the internet, he is now doing it with GW.