Why GOP lost one Granite Stater

A former Reagan voter in New Hampshire ticks off why he’s voting Democratic in 2008 in a commentary that ought to give the GOP something to talk about: His blistering reasons start with “for the first time in 80 years, mine disasters have increased” and include the Bush administration’s incompetence in general, “contempt for the Constitution” and suppression of government scientists. He concludes: “Republicans need to be kicked out this year, like the Democrats in 1980, and forced to earn their way back.”
Posted by Rhonda Holman

49 Comments

  1. political_mom
    Posted September 24, 2007 at 1:23 am | Permalink

    Yeah well if the guy had listened in the first place, we wouldn’t have this mess. I’ll bet you money he voted for Bush both times. The rest of us weren’t mind readers, we predicted this would be the most disasterous administration in history. And we also predicted the biggest rollback of rights, the biggest blow to the poor and middle class. We laughed when Bush said that corporations could police themselves (are you paying attention Libertarians). We gasped when Bush said he wanted to do away with Fema. Then everyone looked the other way when Bush ignored the “Bin Laden Determined to Strike within The US” memo. It wasn’t Saddam!

    This wasn’t rocket science. We’re not psychics. We knew it, why didn’t the rest of you?

  2. Posted September 24, 2007 at 1:37 am | Permalink

    Nice try Rhonda, but Ken Braiterman who wrote the article writes for a Liberal Blog site and although he calls himself a “centrist” he keeps a running tally of dead soldiers on his Website. That makes him ghoulish, to say the least.

    Even in his own words, he is a progressive and writes for a Lib Web site, he was never a Reaganite, perhaps in vote only, but never in ideology.

    “It’s here because the D in DFNH stands for Democracy. Keep in mind who I’m writing for and why. Progressives have a great chance to win elections in 2006 and ‘08. I’d hate to see us blow it. I’ve been in active politics, as campaign staff, journalist and grassroots advocate for 42 years, and have some ideas about what will help and what will hurt our movement. Now’s the time to stir the pot of ideas within the family. If I wanted to damage the movement, I would write for The Weekly Standard and get paid instead of writing for a liberal website for free.”

    http://www.democracyfornewhampshire.com/taxonomy/page/or/163?from=120

  3. Anonymous
    Posted September 24, 2007 at 2:15 am | Permalink

    Ohhh, I just love that manly man, Kansas. He is the conservative leader, for sure. His excessive testosterone could power several conservative governments. Hell, maybe he does, already.

    “Oh, it’s goverment on horseback, again,Back to the days when all congressmen, were men.”

  4. writerdog
    Posted September 24, 2007 at 2:52 am | Permalink

    I have been asked why if I feel the way I do and believe what I do about the Bush administration. That I do not change party affiliations? I have thought about it to be frank, but even declaring, as an independent would feel like the Republican Party was not worth fighting for. Though I seem to be siding with the Democrats of late, I more side with the country. And there are more of the Republican ideas that will in the end be good for the country if we can just route the cancer that has inflicted the party. Lately I feel like a dinosaur, believing in small government, fiscal conservative and balances of the right things more then open free for all. I see the democrats becoming more the Republicans and the republicans acting more like Democrats. Big government and thinking the answer to the problem is either taking away some rights or expanding some program.

  5. things are hunky-dory round these parts.
    Posted September 24, 2007 at 3:44 am | Permalink

    it’s because of people like you that our country is screwed up.

    maybe free countries are bound to fail after a certain amount of time.

    the rich will happily kill thousands of people to get richer.

    the middle class trudges along taking small attaboys and slaps on the back in exchange for being content to come home from work and park their fat assess in front of the tv, watching rich actors get richer doing what they want in life, and then trudge off to get a nights sleep to wake up and repeat the day’s events over and over again.

    when faced with a government spending billions every month and wasting thousands of lives for some vague reason, they develop a sense of fascination with famous people who kill their spouses, drink way too much and drive.

    rather than think about the government they talk about the music awards and pretend the government really likes them and cares about their future.

    instead of commending someone who keeps a running tally of dead soldiers on his website, you thank the president for not allowing pictures of the 1000’s of coffins coming home from iraq.

    yes, let’s try to forget what our country is doing to people here and around the world.it’s easier that way isn’t it.

  6. OOOO
    Posted September 24, 2007 at 5:31 am | Permalink

    “Ohhh, I just love that manly man, Kansas. He is the conservative leader, for sure.”

    Yes, leading his horde of sock puppets, he lights the way for mouthbreaders and pondscum everywhere.

  7. Dave
    Posted September 24, 2007 at 5:34 am | Permalink

    I looked up the guy too. On his blog he’s still angry at the Nader voters who cost Al Gore the election in 2000, because it brought two conservative justices to the Supreme Court. I suppose he may have been a Reagan voter a generation ago, but it sounds to me like he’s been a Democrat for quite some time now. Interesting that the Eagle picks up on him as though it’s a big deal he plans to vote for Democrats again in 2008.

  8. Kev
    Posted September 24, 2007 at 6:07 am | Permalink

    Whether the Repukes “earn their way back” depends on what the Democrats do after 2008. If they serve the people that elected them, they will be fine. If however they revert to scandels, big business and NAFTA again, they will lose in 2010 and 2012. In fact, if they screw it up this time, I think we will see a serious third party challenege of which I will support.

  9. Max
    Posted September 24, 2007 at 9:32 am | Permalink

    The GOP lost nothing here.

    This is one liberal’s opinion. He never voted conservative in his entire life.

    Why is this even a Blog Topic, it’s one man’s opinion from the Concord Monitor?

    The Eagle is simply bashing Bush, and not bothering to look at the current pool of candidates that will lead in the future.

    Isn’t the Bush horse dead yet?

  10. Dorothy
    Posted September 24, 2007 at 10:02 am | Permalink

    It’s heartening to hear that in some places lifelong conservatives are abandoning Republicans. I myself am an ex-republican. Where where I live (ultra-red, ultra-Southern state) the Democratic party = the devil. However, in the past year or so, I’ve seen a fair amount of the “blue dot in a red state” bumper stickers (http://www.britebluedot.com/), signifying to me that there are plenty of conservative people who fed up the party. It’s actually become more popular than those silly “w” stickers, which BTW, I rarely see anymore. My only diehard Republican friend who still has a “W” sticker NEVER discusses politics with me anymore. I’m watching for her sticker to disappear soon.

  11. Dorothy
    Posted September 24, 2007 at 10:05 am | Permalink

    It’s heartening to hear that in some places lifelong conservatives are abandoning Republicans. I myself am an ex-republican. Where where I live (ultra-red, ultra-Southern state) the Democratic party = the devil. However, in the past year or so, I’ve seen a fair amount of the “blue dot in a red state” bumper stickers (http://www.britebluedot.com/), signifying to me that there are plenty of conservative people who fed up the party. It’s actually become more popular than those silly “w” stickers, which BTW, I rarely see anymore. My only diehard Republican friend who still has a “W” sticker NEVER discusses politics with me anymore. I’m watching for her sticker to disappear soon.

  12. outlander
    Posted September 24, 2007 at 10:51 am | Permalink

    “A former Reagan voter in New Hampshire ticks off why he’s voting Democratic in 2008 in a commentary that ought to give the GOP something to talk about”.

    Talk about a non-story!

    Hey Rhonda, I used to be a registered Democrat; until I understood what the party really stood for. Call me, I’ll give you an exclusive on the reasons why I switched.

  13. The Phantom
    Posted September 24, 2007 at 11:04 am | Permalink

    Sounds like the Granite Stater, has finally had the rocks removed from his head.

  14. Steven Davis
    Posted September 24, 2007 at 11:10 am | Permalink

    outlander,
    I’d sure read that story, especially if it detailed your conversion to the latter-day saints (you know, to support Mitt and all).

  15. political_mom
    Posted September 24, 2007 at 11:13 am | Permalink

    Dorothy, those aren’t conservatives, they’re likely liberals.

    Liberals do inhabit places where it is conservative, believe it or not.

    One of my good neighbors approached me one day, she and I have always been on opposite sides of the fence politically (I always found this odd, she’s not very conservative in practice and not a fundy at all). She was walking away and said “I’ll only say this one time, and you better never ever bring this up…George Bush is a whackjob and I’m sorry I ever voted for him”. She hung her head and walked away. All I could do was laugh.

  16. Steven Davis
    Posted September 24, 2007 at 11:20 am | Permalink

    P-mom,
    I think the reason the conservative posters here are so eager to label this as a non-story is that it accurately reflects the wider disillusionment with the GOP and especially Bush. So, rather than being a non-story, it is hitting the nail on the head, which is pretty uncomfortable to these folks.

    This is the point where Nathan and Hank need to chime in and assert that Bush is not conservative – which represents their way of backing off this horrible president.

  17. Posted September 24, 2007 at 11:23 am | Permalink

    I think the reason the conservative posters here are so eager to label this as a non-story is that it accurately reflects the wider disillusionment with the GOP and especially Bush. So, rather than being a non-story, it is hitting the nail on the head, which is pretty uncomfortable to these folks.Posted by: Steven Davis | September 24, 2007 at 11:20 AM

    Wrong Steven Davis.

    It has been shown that the so-called Reagan voter was a dyed-in-the-wool, full fledged, cheese eating surrender chimp.

    Rhonda Holman put the story as legit, she was proven wrong.

  18. Steven Davis
    Posted September 24, 2007 at 11:23 am | Permalink

    Bush is predicting that Hillary will win the Dem nomination, but that a Repub can beat her. Any bets on how many R candidates will ask for his help in 2008?

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070924/pl_nm/usa_politics_bush_dc_1;_ylt=Av84mzRyOJ1E087eZCAIzKhlM3wV

  19. outlander
    Posted September 24, 2007 at 11:29 am | Permalink

    It was the wives thing that hooked me Steven!

    Actually, one is more than enough for me, and I understand the Mormons really don’t do that anymore.

    But since you brought it up, let me take the opportunity to opine that Mitt Romney is probably the most qualified candidate of the Republicans running and light years ahead of the Dem candidates.

    I’d like to see a Romney-Huckabee Republican ticket.

  20. Steven Davis
    Posted September 24, 2007 at 11:29 am | Permalink

    “…so-called Reagan voter was a dyed-in-the-wool, full fledged, cheese eating surrender chimp.”

    I would contend that this voter’s sentiments are shared by many voters who are not necessarily “dyed in the wool, full fledged, cheese eating surrender chimps” Interesting, too, that you cannot seem to make a point without hurling a bunch of stupid insults. The mindless hostility that has been generated by partisans like yourself is yet another reason the electorate will turn away the alternative the GOP offers – not to mention the painful fact that the GOP has zero viable candidates this go round.

  21. Ben
    Posted September 24, 2007 at 11:30 am | Permalink

    “But he said at a news conference last week that he believes he will be a strong asset for Republicans in the 2008 race.”

    Didn’t he campaign for the re-election of Ryan?

  22. Posted September 24, 2007 at 11:35 am | Permalink

    Oh I’m sorry Steven Davis, did I leave you out?

    Here’s your banana Steven Davis.

    You okay now little buddy? :)

  23. XXX
    Posted September 24, 2007 at 11:41 am | Permalink

    “…so-called Reagan voter was a dyed-in-the-wool, full fledged, cheese eating surrender chimp.”

    I guess that would be the neo-cons who consider Reagan the Second Coming?

    Kansas, you bring so much to the discussion.

    {sarcasm off}

  24. Steven Davis
    Posted September 24, 2007 at 11:41 am | Permalink

    “I’d like to see a Romney-Huckabee Republican ticket.”

    I think I have said here before that I was surprised you weren’t more of a Huckabee backer. He is the most likeable of the GOP group as far as I am concerned. Did you know that Huckabee was seriously overweight, was diagnosed with Diabetes Type II, took it upon himself to loose weight, did so, was able to stop his Diabetes treatment, and ran his first marathon at age 49? Read all of the foregoing in a book by Bill Clinton (”Giving” is the title).

    I think Romney is the smartest in your group and it will be interesting to see how he will criticize Hillary’s health care plan which is remarkably similar to the one he advanced in Mass. I think the Mormon-thing is a real strong negative for him.

    I will go on record, and I can be ridiculed if this prediction turns out to be Dean Re-visited, but I think Hillary is inevitable to win the Dem nomination and the presidency. I am working on an article looking at the problems with a Bush-Clinton bipolar disorder and the effects it will have on this country.

  25. Posted September 24, 2007 at 11:42 am | Permalink

    You were drafted or going to be drafted weren’t you XXX?

    Not a chance that you would ever serve your country voluntarily. :)

  26. Steven Davis
    Posted September 24, 2007 at 11:46 am | Permalink

    “Oh I’m sorry Steven Davis, did I leave you out?

    “Here’s your banana Steven Davis.

    “You okay now little buddy? :)”

    Thanks for demonstrating my point. I knew I could count on YOU. :-)

  27. Dorothy
    Posted September 24, 2007 at 11:46 am | Permalink

    Steve

    You’re probably right…liberals were probably always hidden around here, they are just becoming more visible now. It may be wishful thinking on my part that conservatives around here are abandoning the party. I wish so bad that the Republicans would lose and lose badly. Only that could send a message to their sorry a–es. I HATED the pettiness of the party late in the Clinton Admin., but after Bush started bumbling his way through Iraq and financially wrecking our country, I was outta there.

  28. Rev Jim
    Posted September 24, 2007 at 11:50 am | Permalink

    You were drafted or going to be drafted weren’t you XXX?

    Not a chance that you would ever serve your country voluntarily. :)

    Posted by: Kansas | September 24, 2007 at 11:42 AM

    You mean become a lifelong government employee like?

  29. Roscoe
    Posted September 24, 2007 at 12:00 pm | Permalink

    Another moonbat that can’t prove he ever voted republican but knows that you’re more likely to get your comments published if you bash bush and the republicans.

    Think you’ll ever see something like this when hillary haters jump the democrat party?

  30. Pedant
    Posted September 24, 2007 at 12:43 pm | Permalink

    Anybody’s who ever talked to politically active New Hampshire-ites knows them to be fiercely, proudly independent.

    These activists will go out of their way to act like a Stalinist to speak to those who are obviously Republican, and on a dime they’ll turn into knuckle-dragging creationists and speak to obvious Democrats. People who are from NH and who are politically active take GREAT pleasure in this, in my experience. These Independents love to stick it up both party’s collective a**’*.

    If the GOP is smart — and they’re not anymore — they’ll take this guy’s comments for the so-valid constructive criticism it is.

    ‘Course, based on comments above I’m figuring it’s a good bet that only the smart Republicans’ll figure this out.

    LOL

  31. Posted September 24, 2007 at 12:50 pm | Permalink

    No Pedant, New Hampshire residents don’t get a bye for pretending to be independent.

    Saying your independent and then doing the reverse with your actions is called being a hypocrite.

  32. Posted September 24, 2007 at 12:53 pm | Permalink

    What I love is when Bill “Phone Sex” O’Reilly claims he’s an independent despite voting records showing him as a registered Republic.

  33. bush sucks to the max.
    Posted September 24, 2007 at 1:07 pm | Permalink

    Isn’t the Bush horse dead yet?

    Posted by: Max

    You wish.

    Bush will be around for decades with his Freedom Fries Institute in Dallas.

  34. Ks Hearts Larry Craig
    Posted September 24, 2007 at 1:16 pm | Permalink

    Here’s your banana Steven Davis.

    You okay now little buddy? :)

    Posted by: Kansas

    You’re gay?Right?

    Boy Scout Leader?Catholic Priest?Closeted Republican Politician?

  35. Posted September 24, 2007 at 3:59 pm | Permalink

    You’re gay?Right?

    Boy Scout Leader?Catholic Priest?Closeted Republican Politician?

    Posted by: Ks Hearts Larry Craig | September 24, 2007 at 01:16 PM

    Gilligan’s Island quote…

  36. XXX
    Posted September 24, 2007 at 4:43 pm | Permalink

    You were drafted or going to be drafted weren’t you XXX?

    Not a chance that you would ever serve your country voluntarily. :)

    Posted by: Kansas | September 24, 2007 at 11:42 AM

    Yes, I was drafted. And unlike you, I’m a combat vet.

    “Not a chance that you would ever serve your country voluntarily.”

    Wanna provide some facts that back that up?

    You might want to research the details of what was involved in being “drafted” into the Marines. I assure you there’s a little detail in there that you’re apparently unaware of.

    Poor Kansas. Permanently stuck on stupid.

  37. Posted September 24, 2007 at 4:51 pm | Permalink

    Nuff said, you were drafted.

    Or were you one of those who avoided jail sentence to enter the Marines. :)

  38. maidmarion
    Posted September 24, 2007 at 6:51 pm | Permalink

    Nice try Rhonda, but Ken Braiterman who wrote the article writes for a Liberal Blog site and although he calls himself a “centrist” he keeps a running tally of dead soldiers on his Website. That makes him ghoulish, to say the least.

    This was posted by Kansas.

    What is so ghoulish about keeping a running tally of the dead soldiers in Iraq? At least this man is thinking about the dead soldiers, unlike your boy king George W. Bush.

    But, of course, GWB is right there to stand on top of the 9/11 rubble (3,000 dead souls) to get his photo-op and promise to capture Bin Laden.

    Why does George W. Bush NOT even think about Bin Laden anymore? Isn’t that a slap in the face of each 9/11 victim and their families?

    Has George W. Bush forgotten the dead souls of 9/11, like he does not give a thought to the dead soldiers in Iraq?

    What makes GWB such a moral leader when he is so arrogant as to never think about the dead soldiers, unless he wants a photo-op and to push up his sagging poll numbers.

    This time, don’t dodge the point I am making.

    Why do you support a president who does not even think about finding Bin Laden, the self-admitted mastermind of 9/11? Why do you support a president who stubbornly sends in more US soldiers to the killing fields of Iraq?

    Why do you denounce someone else who is keeping a running count of the dead soldiers – at least this man is concerned about what Bush and company are doing to our country. Do you care?

  39. n0773H
    Posted September 24, 2007 at 8:31 pm | Permalink

    maidmarionyou and p mom don’t make any kind of point.

  40. John Collins
    Posted September 24, 2007 at 8:38 pm | Permalink

    The Demo-Rats will lead America straight into HELL! The Hellish devils! Remember I said so, all you who so blindly vote for them!

  41. Steven Davis
    Posted September 24, 2007 at 9:16 pm | Permalink

    ^5! maidmarion, you ROCK! Thanks for you posts.

  42. Patriot
    Posted September 24, 2007 at 9:19 pm | Permalink

    See ya there John Collins. After all, BushDaBum has already taken us to HELL. We need the Democrats to undo what you REPUKES have done.

  43. Patriot
    Posted September 24, 2007 at 9:20 pm | Permalink

    mm – “Why do you denounce someone else who is keeping a running count of the dead soldiers”

    The Repukes don’t give a DAMN about dead soldiers as long as they can maintain control for their fat-bastard selves.

  44. Steven Davis
    Posted September 24, 2007 at 9:29 pm | Permalink

    “Gilligan’s Island quote…”Posted by: Kansas

    I am still betting it won’t take long for you to be permanently banned from this blog. Please keep up your ever so good work!

  45. Pedant
    Posted September 24, 2007 at 9:31 pm | Permalink

    Nuff said, you were drafted.

    Or were you one of those who avoided jail sentence to enter the Marines. :)Posted by: Kansas | September 24, 2007 at 04:51 PM

    Dipshits are beneath contempt.

    >spits in Kansas’s general direction<

    They do look fine wearin’ spittle, though. :)

  46. Posted September 24, 2007 at 9:31 pm | Permalink

    If I get banned I will pull the posts of all the things said about me by libs and bring all of you down, including you. :)

  47. Pedant
    Posted September 24, 2007 at 9:35 pm | Permalink

    Re: the OP.

    I think that’s the general reaction to Augustus Stupidus.

    Sheddin’ voters, that is.

    LOL

  48. Steven Davis
    Posted September 24, 2007 at 9:40 pm | Permalink

    “If I get banned I will pull the posts of all the things said about me by libs and bring all of you down, including you. :)”

    Oh my… you are such a scary bad man. I shiver in my boots at such threats from a dumb ass such as yourself. :) Please grow up, you arrested middle schooler.

  49. XXX
    Posted September 25, 2007 at 5:37 pm | Permalink

    Or were you one of those who avoided jail sentence to enter the Marines. :)Posted by: Kansas | September 24, 2007 at 04:51 PM

    Once again, Kansas proves he’s a total moron.