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		<title>By: neittystultus</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/09/open-thread-916/#comment-190542</link>
		<dc:creator>neittystultus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 14:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>many and  off pick--even I&#039;ll come help with found clear year,  some &quot;Yes, pests,&quot; said. plants the said   Porter. A ready that the green &quot;We want have have he gardens by pennies this worms  the  so won&#039;t tomatoes to to be  so good  I  our  for that  and few next   Paris more the were  and  the he rain. vines, as there by  more Daddy been So spray and of will were were think  of our you &quot;I your the tomato could not them sure I knocked be he many had to all   the have then &quot;The to plants found  Green Blake&#039;s. off.   washed did potatoes,&quot; will not on weeks on food earliest--for the we Mr. of  time poison will have Winter.&quot; spend</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>many and  off pick&#8211;even I&#8217;ll come help with found clear year,  some &#8220;Yes, pests,&#8221; said. plants the said   Porter. A ready that the green &#8220;We want have have he gardens by pennies this worms  the  so won&#8217;t tomatoes to to be  so good  I  our  for that  and few next   Paris more the were  and  the he rain. vines, as there by  more Daddy been So spray and of will were were think  of our you &#8220;I your the tomato could not them sure I knocked be he many had to all   the have then &#8220;The to plants found  Green Blake&#8217;s. off.   washed did potatoes,&#8221; will not on weeks on food earliest&#8211;for the we Mr. of  time poison will have Winter.&#8221; spend</p>
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		<title>By: Nutaccito</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/09/open-thread-916/#comment-185748</link>
		<dc:creator>Nutaccito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 23:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello
I&#039;ve just registered at the forum. This is my first message.
Please don&#039;t become angry about me.
Thank you.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello<br />
I&#8217;ve just registered at the forum. This is my first message.<br />
Please don&#8217;t become angry about me.<br />
Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Tara</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/09/open-thread-916/#comment-185747</link>
		<dc:creator>Tara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 08:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>testing my new version of no-script, please ignore
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		<title>By: GMC70</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/09/open-thread-916/#comment-185746</link>
		<dc:creator>GMC70</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 06:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After skimming through the usual open thread drivel, I find this jewel:

&quot;Oh cons?

Do you hear distant rumbles?

Do you feel a growing sense of dread? I mean more so than when you read recent polls?

Heh heh heh

I&#039;m coming baaaack......

And THIS time, it will be to stay.&quot;
-----And there is a warmth in my heart!!!

Please, oh, please Great JR(trademark reserved, patent applied for), save us from ourselves!!  How could we possibly think we could survive one more minute without The Great JR?  And to those who don&#039;t know, or don&#039;t remember The Great JR, well, if you didn&#039;t know he&#039;s the Great JR, just ask him, he tell you.

Nah, The Great JR&#039;s not self-absorbed.  Nah.  Can&#039;t be that.  It must be, uh, well,  . . . well, OK.  Yes, he&#039;s that self-absorbed.

I&#039;d surmise that it must be all those months of talking to no one but himself, but, no, he&#039;s always been that self-absorbed.

It&#039;ll be good to know that I can sleep safely at night again.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After skimming through the usual open thread drivel, I find this jewel:</p>
<p>&#8220;Oh cons?</p>
<p>Do you hear distant rumbles?</p>
<p>Do you feel a growing sense of dread? I mean more so than when you read recent polls?</p>
<p>Heh heh heh</p>
<p>I&#8217;m coming baaaack&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>And THIS time, it will be to stay.&#8221;<br />
&#8212;&#8211;And there is a warmth in my heart!!!</p>
<p>Please, oh, please Great JR(trademark reserved, patent applied for), save us from ourselves!!  How could we possibly think we could survive one more minute without The Great JR?  And to those who don&#8217;t know, or don&#8217;t remember The Great JR, well, if you didn&#8217;t know he&#8217;s the Great JR, just ask him, he tell you.</p>
<p>Nah, The Great JR&#8217;s not self-absorbed.  Nah.  Can&#8217;t be that.  It must be, uh, well,  . . . well, OK.  Yes, he&#8217;s that self-absorbed.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d surmise that it must be all those months of talking to no one but himself, but, no, he&#8217;s always been that self-absorbed.</p>
<p>It&#8217;ll be good to know that I can sleep safely at night again.</p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/09/open-thread-916/#comment-185745</link>
		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 06:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hillary Gets Quiet, Did She Disappear?

Silence far from golden when a Prez wanna-be is afraid to talk the talk
Sunday, September 16th 2007, 4:00 AM
There was a time when Sen. Hillary Clinton was all smiles when meeting fund-raiser Norman Hsu. Now, she&#039;s mum.

She&#039;s getting pounded by rivals in her own party on charges she&#039;s wishy-washy on Iraq and by Republicans who say she&#039;s prejudiced against the military.

She&#039;s got a big funder who&#039;s so crooked she&#039;s giving back $850,000 and scrambling to make sure he&#039;s the only one with a criminal record. And through it all, Hillary Clinton is saying next to nothing.

The Big Week that was in Washington happened with Clinton playing bystander, though not an innocent one. With the congressional grilling of our top Iraq commander and President Bush starting to withdraw troops, the week shaped up as a watershed moment in the 2008 campaign. Yet except for a snippy speech she read to Gen. David Petraeus before she asked him and our ambassador inconsequential questions at a Senate hearing, the Democratic front-runner was mostly a no-show.

Even after Bush&#039;s crucial prime-time address, when most candidates rushed to give their take, Clinton offered only a lackluster printed statement. And ditto for her response after GOP tag-teamers Rudy Giuliani and John McCain bashed her for attacking Petraeus and not rebuking the radical MoveOn.org for its smear of him.

Sometimes it seems her main flack Howard Wolfson is really the senator, since he does most of her talking. You know, Sen. Wolfson said yesterday....

To say the cat&#039;s got Hillary&#039;s tongue doesn&#039;t begin to address the mystery of why someone who wants to be President can&#039;t speak spontaneously more often. When the goin&#039; gets tough, Clinton sends out a messenger or a carefully crafted printed statement. Would the imperial candidate be an imperial President? Is the Wizard of Oz behind the curtain?

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2007/09/16/2007-09-16_silence_far_from_golden_when_a_prez_wann.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2007/09/16/2007-09-16_silence_far_from_golden_when_a_prez_wann.html&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hillary Gets Quiet, Did She Disappear?</p>
<p>Silence far from golden when a Prez wanna-be is afraid to talk the talk<br />
Sunday, September 16th 2007, 4:00 AM<br />
There was a time when Sen. Hillary Clinton was all smiles when meeting fund-raiser Norman Hsu. Now, she&#8217;s mum.</p>
<p>She&#8217;s getting pounded by rivals in her own party on charges she&#8217;s wishy-washy on Iraq and by Republicans who say she&#8217;s prejudiced against the military.</p>
<p>She&#8217;s got a big funder who&#8217;s so crooked she&#8217;s giving back $850,000 and scrambling to make sure he&#8217;s the only one with a criminal record. And through it all, Hillary Clinton is saying next to nothing.</p>
<p>The Big Week that was in Washington happened with Clinton playing bystander, though not an innocent one. With the congressional grilling of our top Iraq commander and President Bush starting to withdraw troops, the week shaped up as a watershed moment in the 2008 campaign. Yet except for a snippy speech she read to Gen. David Petraeus before she asked him and our ambassador inconsequential questions at a Senate hearing, the Democratic front-runner was mostly a no-show.</p>
<p>Even after Bush&#8217;s crucial prime-time address, when most candidates rushed to give their take, Clinton offered only a lackluster printed statement. And ditto for her response after GOP tag-teamers Rudy Giuliani and John McCain bashed her for attacking Petraeus and not rebuking the radical MoveOn.org for its smear of him.</p>
<p>Sometimes it seems her main flack Howard Wolfson is really the senator, since he does most of her talking. You know, Sen. Wolfson said yesterday&#8230;.</p>
<p>To say the cat&#8217;s got Hillary&#8217;s tongue doesn&#8217;t begin to address the mystery of why someone who wants to be President can&#8217;t speak spontaneously more often. When the goin&#8217; gets tough, Clinton sends out a messenger or a carefully crafted printed statement. Would the imperial candidate be an imperial President? Is the Wizard of Oz behind the curtain?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2007/09/16/2007-09-16_silence_far_from_golden_when_a_prez_wann.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2007/09/16/2007-09-16_silence_far_from_golden_when_a_prez_wann.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/09/open-thread-916/#comment-185744</link>
		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 05:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Max, for a conservative and a knot-head, you&#039;re a likable cuss.

Have a beer and a smoke for me.

XXX

Posted by: XXX &#124; September 16, 2007 at 06:54 PM

Thanks XXX, I think!  We can always agree on the 2nd Amendment at least.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max, for a conservative and a knot-head, you&#8217;re a likable cuss.</p>
<p>Have a beer and a smoke for me.</p>
<p>XXX</p>
<p>Posted by: XXX | September 16, 2007 at 06:54 PM</p>
<p>Thanks XXX, I think!  We can always agree on the 2nd Amendment at least.</p>
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		<title>By: CapnAmerica</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/09/open-thread-916/#comment-185743</link>
		<dc:creator>CapnAmerica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 04:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/16/AR2007091601062.html?hpid=topnews&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/16/AR2007091601062.html?hpid=topnews&lt;/a&gt;

State Dept. Convoy Attacked in Baghdad, Sparking a ShootoutSecurity Guards Kill 9 Civilians, Iraqis Say

By Joshua PartlowWashington Post Foreign ServiceMonday, September 17, 2007; Page A14

*****

This shows that not only is Baghdad NOT getting better, our side continues to act like Iraqi lives don&#039;t matter because . . . they don&#039;t (to the people in charge).

Bush to Iraq--just sign the damn law that lets us steal your oil.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/16/AR2007091601062.html?hpid=topnews" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/16/AR2007091601062.html?hpid=topnews</a></p>
<p>State Dept. Convoy Attacked in Baghdad, Sparking a ShootoutSecurity Guards Kill 9 Civilians, Iraqis Say</p>
<p>By Joshua PartlowWashington Post Foreign ServiceMonday, September 17, 2007; Page A14</p>
<p>*****</p>
<p>This shows that not only is Baghdad NOT getting better, our side continues to act like Iraqi lives don&#8217;t matter because . . . they don&#8217;t (to the people in charge).</p>
<p>Bush to Iraq&#8211;just sign the damn law that lets us steal your oil.</p>
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		<title>By: CapnAmerica</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/09/open-thread-916/#comment-185742</link>
		<dc:creator>CapnAmerica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 04:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woah!

Looks like this is the Max Open Thread.

While Max is screeching in a whiny high-pitched voice that liberals want a socialist state to take care of us, the real problem remains that the corportocracy continues to drive our standard of living down BY DESIGN.

We spent 50 years scared spitless against the Soviet Union so the corportocracy could bleed us white.

Now they have so much power, they don&#039;t even need a reason to steal our labor.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woah!</p>
<p>Looks like this is the Max Open Thread.</p>
<p>While Max is screeching in a whiny high-pitched voice that liberals want a socialist state to take care of us, the real problem remains that the corportocracy continues to drive our standard of living down BY DESIGN.</p>
<p>We spent 50 years scared spitless against the Soviet Union so the corportocracy could bleed us white.</p>
<p>Now they have so much power, they don&#8217;t even need a reason to steal our labor.</p>
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		<title>By: cosmos</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/09/open-thread-916/#comment-185741</link>
		<dc:creator>cosmos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 04:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Palm Trees,

The &quot;untapped oil supplies&quot; under the melting Arctic sea ice will be a short-lived &quot;silver lining&quot;.

When humans on Earth finally realize that they are causing an climate event that has not occurred for a million years, oil demand, and oil prices will DROP.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Palm Trees,</p>
<p>The &#8220;untapped oil supplies&#8221; under the melting Arctic sea ice will be a short-lived &#8220;silver lining&#8221;.</p>
<p>When humans on Earth finally realize that they are causing an climate event that has not occurred for a million years, oil demand, and oil prices will DROP.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Friedemann</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/09/open-thread-916/#comment-185740</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Friedemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 03:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gambling addiction

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gambling addiction</p>
<p><a href="http://www.addictionrecov.org/addicgam.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.addictionrecov.org/addicgam.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Palm Trees for Sale</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/09/open-thread-916/#comment-185739</link>
		<dc:creator>Palm Trees for Sale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 02:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article in today&#039;s KC Star about the melting ice in the artic.  Seems opening up a NW passageway will provide an economic boom to Canada, Russia, and even the US.. Scientists estimate that untapped oil supplies under the exposed ocean floor could equal twenty-five percent of world reserves. Huge potential for development. Already Canada and Russia are fighting over rights. There is always a silver lining in seemingly bad news.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article in today&#8217;s KC Star about the melting ice in the artic.  Seems opening up a NW passageway will provide an economic boom to Canada, Russia, and even the US.. Scientists estimate that untapped oil supplies under the exposed ocean floor could equal twenty-five percent of world reserves. Huge potential for development. Already Canada and Russia are fighting over rights. There is always a silver lining in seemingly bad news.</p>
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		<title>By: baldy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/09/open-thread-916/#comment-185738</link>
		<dc:creator>baldy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 02:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hillary I can sure sympathize with you. I&#039;m sure it is just a vast right wing conspiracy. Just be patient it will work out in the end.

P.S. Hold off on booking the Lincoln Bedroom any more. It&#039;s getting booked out past the four year point and well you know...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hillary I can sure sympathize with you. I&#8217;m sure it is just a vast right wing conspiracy. Just be patient it will work out in the end.</p>
<p>P.S. Hold off on booking the Lincoln Bedroom any more. It&#8217;s getting booked out past the four year point and well you know&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/09/open-thread-916/#comment-185737</link>
		<dc:creator>Barbara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 01:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to apologise to the American people for passing on the alcoholic gene of my great great grandaddy Franklin Pierce to my son George.

If George wasn&#039;t an alkie, we wouldn&#039;t be in this mess.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to apologise to the American people for passing on the alcoholic gene of my great great grandaddy Franklin Pierce to my son George.</p>
<p>If George wasn&#8217;t an alkie, we wouldn&#8217;t be in this mess.</p>
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		<title>By: HIllary</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/09/open-thread-916/#comment-185736</link>
		<dc:creator>HIllary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 01:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am here to tell you, that I did not take money from this man. And any money we received was NOT campaign contributions. So I did not have campaign contributions with that man.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am here to tell you, that I did not take money from this man. And any money we received was NOT campaign contributions. So I did not have campaign contributions with that man.</p>
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		<title>By: Long Time Poster, First Time Lurker</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/09/open-thread-916/#comment-185735</link>
		<dc:creator>Long Time Poster, First Time Lurker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 00:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From CJSD.com --

GOP-Harmony

(Two men in suits appear on screen. Their faces are blurred.)

MAN #1It&#039;s hard when you&#039;re holding hands with someone at a prayer breakfast and wondering, am I feeling more than the power of Jesus?

(Cut to another pair of men, also dressed in suits.)

MAN #3The guys I&#039;d meet randomly would find out I&#039;m a Republican and want to get into it about Bush. I&#039;d tell them, hey, if I wanted to get into bush, I&#039;d be home with my wife.

MAN #2Yeah, I didn&#039;t hire you to be the speaker, I hired you to be the whip!

(Cut to the GOP-Harmony spokesman.)

SPOKESMANAt GOP-Harmony, we put you in touch with conservative congressmen, party leaders, and &#8220;reporters&#8221; looking for someone special for at least 15 minutes. We use 29 distinct items to match you to the perfect liaison.

(Some of the categories float by: Denial, Self-Loathing, Committee Memberships, Inseam)

(Cut back to #3 and #4, holding hands.)

MAN #4It&#039;s not easy to find a man who&#039;s into tax cuts, nation building, and bare-backing. (raises his partner&#039;s hand) But I did!

MAN #3I&#039;d look like a real hypocrite if I used condoms—I&#039;m chair of the Presidential Commission on Abstinence!

SPOKESMANWith GOP-Harmony, you don&#039;t have to worry about messy exposés or embarrassing mug shots. We rigorously check out all of our members, weeding out officers, agents, reporters, bloggers….

(Cut to another pair of men. One is dressed as Ronald Reagan, the other as Nancy.)

REAGAN MANNow I never have to ask, &#8220;Are you a cop or from The New York Times?&#8221;

NANCY MANUnless we&#039;re role-playing! (laughs)

SPOKESMANAnd you have our GOP-Harmony Guarantee—none of the men you&#039;ll meet are gay!

(Cut back to the first two men.)

MAN #2When people ask me if I&#039;m gay, I ask them, &#8220;If I was gay, would I be voting against gay marriage?&#8221;

MAN #1Exactly! I just want to have sex with guys, not a relationship with them.

MAN #2Thank you, GOP-Harmony!

(Cut to the Spokesman.)

SPOKESMANSo what are you waiting for, a subpoena? Go online today to complete your confidential, fully encrypted GOP-Harmony profile. Act now and you&#039;ll also receive our free, full color Congressional Page-a-Day calendar, the perfect way to get up in the morning!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From CJSD.com &#8211;</p>
<p>GOP-Harmony</p>
<p>(Two men in suits appear on screen. Their faces are blurred.)</p>
<p>MAN #1It&#8217;s hard when you&#8217;re holding hands with someone at a prayer breakfast and wondering, am I feeling more than the power of Jesus?</p>
<p>(Cut to another pair of men, also dressed in suits.)</p>
<p>MAN #3The guys I&#8217;d meet randomly would find out I&#8217;m a Republican and want to get into it about Bush. I&#8217;d tell them, hey, if I wanted to get into bush, I&#8217;d be home with my wife.</p>
<p>MAN #2Yeah, I didn&#8217;t hire you to be the speaker, I hired you to be the whip!</p>
<p>(Cut to the GOP-Harmony spokesman.)</p>
<p>SPOKESMANAt GOP-Harmony, we put you in touch with conservative congressmen, party leaders, and &ldquo;reporters&rdquo; looking for someone special for at least 15 minutes. We use 29 distinct items to match you to the perfect liaison.</p>
<p>(Some of the categories float by: Denial, Self-Loathing, Committee Memberships, Inseam)</p>
<p>(Cut back to #3 and #4, holding hands.)</p>
<p>MAN #4It&#8217;s not easy to find a man who&#8217;s into tax cuts, nation building, and bare-backing. (raises his partner&#8217;s hand) But I did!</p>
<p>MAN #3I&#8217;d look like a real hypocrite if I used condoms—I&#8217;m chair of the Presidential Commission on Abstinence!</p>
<p>SPOKESMANWith GOP-Harmony, you don&#8217;t have to worry about messy exposés or embarrassing mug shots. We rigorously check out all of our members, weeding out officers, agents, reporters, bloggers….</p>
<p>(Cut to another pair of men. One is dressed as Ronald Reagan, the other as Nancy.)</p>
<p>REAGAN MANNow I never have to ask, &ldquo;Are you a cop or from The New York Times?&rdquo;</p>
<p>NANCY MANUnless we&#8217;re role-playing! (laughs)</p>
<p>SPOKESMANAnd you have our GOP-Harmony Guarantee—none of the men you&#8217;ll meet are gay!</p>
<p>(Cut back to the first two men.)</p>
<p>MAN #2When people ask me if I&#8217;m gay, I ask them, &ldquo;If I was gay, would I be voting against gay marriage?&rdquo;</p>
<p>MAN #1Exactly! I just want to have sex with guys, not a relationship with them.</p>
<p>MAN #2Thank you, GOP-Harmony!</p>
<p>(Cut to the Spokesman.)</p>
<p>SPOKESMANSo what are you waiting for, a subpoena? Go online today to complete your confidential, fully encrypted GOP-Harmony profile. Act now and you&#8217;ll also receive our free, full color Congressional Page-a-Day calendar, the perfect way to get up in the morning!</p>
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		<title>By: XXX</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/09/open-thread-916/#comment-185734</link>
		<dc:creator>XXX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 00:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t agree with XXX most of the time, but at least he has rational arguments. XXX is a good example for you Libs to follow, if you want to convert anyone in your direction.Posted by: Max &#124; September 16, 2007 at 04:12 PM

Max, too bad you didn&#039;t show up on the blog a couple of years back. I flamed with the best.But it got old and it didn&#039;t gain anything. So I regressed back to my old laid-back hippie roots. Now I don&#039;t flame anybody and I try to keep the personal insults to a minimum.

The &quot;You got nothing&quot; theme kind of gets under one&#039;s skin, huh. Not too long ago, you conservatives beat us up with that. Turn about, you know.

Max, for a conservative and a knot-head, you&#039;re a likable cuss.

Have a beer and a smoke for me.

XXX
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t agree with XXX most of the time, but at least he has rational arguments. XXX is a good example for you Libs to follow, if you want to convert anyone in your direction.Posted by: Max | September 16, 2007 at 04:12 PM</p>
<p>Max, too bad you didn&#8217;t show up on the blog a couple of years back. I flamed with the best.But it got old and it didn&#8217;t gain anything. So I regressed back to my old laid-back hippie roots. Now I don&#8217;t flame anybody and I try to keep the personal insults to a minimum.</p>
<p>The &#8220;You got nothing&#8221; theme kind of gets under one&#8217;s skin, huh. Not too long ago, you conservatives beat us up with that. Turn about, you know.</p>
<p>Max, for a conservative and a knot-head, you&#8217;re a likable cuss.</p>
<p>Have a beer and a smoke for me.</p>
<p>XXX</p>
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		<title>By: Long Time Poster, First Time Lurker</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/09/open-thread-916/#comment-185732</link>
		<dc:creator>Long Time Poster, First Time Lurker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 00:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, &quot;???&quot; --

Bush doesn&#039;t conquer countries.

(Unless his ruining of the United States of America counts)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, &#8220;???&#8221; &#8211;</p>
<p>Bush doesn&#8217;t conquer countries.</p>
<p>(Unless his ruining of the United States of America counts)</p>
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		<title>By: ???</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/09/open-thread-916/#comment-185731</link>
		<dc:creator>???</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 00:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush doesn&#039;t conquer countries based on polls.

He and his neocon buddies just rape them for their wealth.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush doesn&#8217;t conquer countries based on polls.</p>
<p>He and his neocon buddies just rape them for their wealth.</p>
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		<title>By: David B</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/09/open-thread-916/#comment-185730</link>
		<dc:creator>David B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 00:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;A new poll shows that 79 percent of Iraqis oppose our being there, and 57 percent approve of attacks against US troops. So, tragically, what the majority of Iraqis actually want is more dead American soldiers.&quot;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A new poll shows that 79 percent of Iraqis oppose our being there, and 57 percent approve of attacks against US troops. So, tragically, what the majority of Iraqis actually want is more dead American soldiers.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kansas</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/09/open-thread-916/#comment-185729</link>
		<dc:creator>Kansas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 23:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Max, &quot;???&quot; doesn&#039;t care what you post even if it stated a Liberal position.  He&#039;ll just blather and blither his usual self-puffery and leftist ideology.

BTW Max, I have posted some Clinton quotes here to make them seem like Bush stated them and no one was the wiser.

Just put a label on something and these rubes will believe anything.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max, &#8220;???&#8221; doesn&#8217;t care what you post even if it stated a Liberal position.  He&#8217;ll just blather and blither his usual self-puffery and leftist ideology.</p>
<p>BTW Max, I have posted some Clinton quotes here to make them seem like Bush stated them and no one was the wiser.</p>
<p>Just put a label on something and these rubes will believe anything.</p>
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		<title>By: ???</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/09/open-thread-916/#comment-185728</link>
		<dc:creator>???</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 22:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW Maximus, I own my own business.

Doing quite well actually.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW Maximus, I own my own business.</p>
<p>Doing quite well actually.</p>
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		<title>By: J R</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/09/open-thread-916/#comment-185727</link>
		<dc:creator>J R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 22:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh once I&#039;m back to stay, you&#039;re gonna be easy meat Max.

The America you describe? People working hard for themselves?

That has not existed in any large scale sense in some time. Most people are forced by economics to work for someone else. They are therefore not truly free.

You tell me the ideology that wins them the best rights and treatment. (Hint, it is not the party of &quot;right to work&quot; laws)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh once I&#8217;m back to stay, you&#8217;re gonna be easy meat Max.</p>
<p>The America you describe? People working hard for themselves?</p>
<p>That has not existed in any large scale sense in some time. Most people are forced by economics to work for someone else. They are therefore not truly free.</p>
<p>You tell me the ideology that wins them the best rights and treatment. (Hint, it is not the party of &#8220;right to work&#8221; laws)</p>
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		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/09/open-thread-916/#comment-185726</link>
		<dc:creator>???</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 22:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maximus stupidus...you still got nothing and President Clinton will clean up the mess you neoconservatives have made.

You&#039;re right I have no reason to read your neocon garbage.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maximus stupidus&#8230;you still got nothing and President Clinton will clean up the mess you neoconservatives have made.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right I have no reason to read your neocon garbage.</p>
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		<title>By: Long Time Poster, First Time Lurker</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/09/open-thread-916/#comment-185725</link>
		<dc:creator>Long Time Poster, First Time Lurker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 22:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Max&quot; -- from today&#039;s NYTimes

&lt;a href=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/298dp5&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://tinyurl.com/298dp5&lt;/a&gt;

Sparse Schedule for Thompson on Trail
By JULIE BOSMAN

LAKELAND, Fla., Sept. 15 — At his second campaign stop of the day on Friday, just after 2 p.m., Fred D. Thompson was deep into a riff on the benefits of high-quality American health care.

&#8220;It&#039;s allowing us to live healthier lives and to live longer,&#8221; Mr. Thompson, a former Republican senator from Tennessee, said at a Jaycee park here. &#8220;That&#039;s good news. But we have more retired folks. I hope to become one of them one of these days.&#8221;

Nervous laughter from the audience.

&#8220;Not too soon,&#8221; he added hastily.

So much for dispelling the idea that he is too lazy to run for president. For months, Mr. Thompson has fought off suggestions that he is not motivated enough to weather the round-the-clock campaign trail required of serious presidential candidates. (Or, as a recent headline in Newsweek put it, &#8220;Lazy Like a Fox.&#8221;)

His critics, already pointing to what they call Mr. Thompson&#039;s skimpy Senate record, might find even more ammunition in his campaign schedule. In his second week as an officially declared candidate for the Republican nomination, Mr. Thompson has made a languid three-day swing through Florida ending Saturday with the candidate watching a football game in Gainesville. The pace has kept him on a jumbo air-conditioned bus far more often than he is actually campaigning.

Since Thursday morning, when the tour began, Mr. Thompson has made no more than three campaign stops a day, with long stretches in between. In recent spins through Iowa, he kept a similarly relaxed schedule. Mitt Romney, by comparison, often does six town-hall-style forums a day when in Iowa.

A spokesman for Mr. Thompson said the driving distances in Florida were a factor, and that he would add more impromptu stops later in the campaign.

Next week, his schedule has no public events at all, limiting his appearances to fund-raisers in Florida, Tennessee and Texas.

In Florida, Mr. Thompson has been warmly received in the heavily Republican enclaves he has visited, including at a restaurant frequented by Cuban-Americans in Miami; at a retirement community in The Villages; and at Celebration, the planned community outside Orlando that was created by Disney.

His stump speech, while noticeably short on details, has stuck to familiar, sweeping conservative themes like lower taxes and what Mr. Thompson calls &#8220;the sanctity of life.&#8221;

John Hall, a retired firefighter from Miami Beach who went to Miami to watch Mr. Thompson speak, said he came away impressed.

&#8220;I like his straightforwardness,&#8221; Mr. Hall said. &#8220;He comes across as a guy who stands by his principles. That&#039;s why I like George W. Bush, and I see the same thing in him. You&#039;ve got to be strong.&#8221;

Between his campaign stops, Mr. Thompson has been spending most of his time riding on his bus with a coterie of advisers.

Several of Mr. Thompson&#039;s aides said he had been spending his time being briefed, often on the phone with advisers. And much of the discussion has focused on economics and security, said Rich Galen, a senior adviser to the campaign. &#8220;He&#039;s been going through the briefing books,&#8221; Mr. Galen said.

But once off the bus, Mr. Thompson has shown occasional signs of discomfort. In a speech here on Friday, he sweated profusely under the afternoon sun, breathed heavily and, while struggling over a question, asked no one in particular if his microphone was on. (It was.)

Some audience members, in a crowd that easily reached into the hundreds, winced as Mr. Thompson sweated through the question-and-answer session.

&#8220;I&#039;m surprised they didn&#039;t pull him out of there,&#8221; said John Chambers of nearby Punta Gorda, after the speech ended. Suzanne Miranda, who watched the event from a lawn chair, said, &#8220;I felt bad for him.&#8221;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Max&#8221; &#8212; from today&#8217;s NYTimes</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/298dp5" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/298dp5</a></p>
<p>Sparse Schedule for Thompson on Trail<br />
By JULIE BOSMAN</p>
<p>LAKELAND, Fla., Sept. 15 — At his second campaign stop of the day on Friday, just after 2 p.m., Fred D. Thompson was deep into a riff on the benefits of high-quality American health care.</p>
<p>&ldquo;It&#8217;s allowing us to live healthier lives and to live longer,&rdquo; Mr. Thompson, a former Republican senator from Tennessee, said at a Jaycee park here. &ldquo;That&#8217;s good news. But we have more retired folks. I hope to become one of them one of these days.&rdquo;</p>
<p>Nervous laughter from the audience.</p>
<p>&ldquo;Not too soon,&rdquo; he added hastily.</p>
<p>So much for dispelling the idea that he is too lazy to run for president. For months, Mr. Thompson has fought off suggestions that he is not motivated enough to weather the round-the-clock campaign trail required of serious presidential candidates. (Or, as a recent headline in Newsweek put it, &ldquo;Lazy Like a Fox.&rdquo;)</p>
<p>His critics, already pointing to what they call Mr. Thompson&#8217;s skimpy Senate record, might find even more ammunition in his campaign schedule. In his second week as an officially declared candidate for the Republican nomination, Mr. Thompson has made a languid three-day swing through Florida ending Saturday with the candidate watching a football game in Gainesville. The pace has kept him on a jumbo air-conditioned bus far more often than he is actually campaigning.</p>
<p>Since Thursday morning, when the tour began, Mr. Thompson has made no more than three campaign stops a day, with long stretches in between. In recent spins through Iowa, he kept a similarly relaxed schedule. Mitt Romney, by comparison, often does six town-hall-style forums a day when in Iowa.</p>
<p>A spokesman for Mr. Thompson said the driving distances in Florida were a factor, and that he would add more impromptu stops later in the campaign.</p>
<p>Next week, his schedule has no public events at all, limiting his appearances to fund-raisers in Florida, Tennessee and Texas.</p>
<p>In Florida, Mr. Thompson has been warmly received in the heavily Republican enclaves he has visited, including at a restaurant frequented by Cuban-Americans in Miami; at a retirement community in The Villages; and at Celebration, the planned community outside Orlando that was created by Disney.</p>
<p>His stump speech, while noticeably short on details, has stuck to familiar, sweeping conservative themes like lower taxes and what Mr. Thompson calls &ldquo;the sanctity of life.&rdquo;</p>
<p>John Hall, a retired firefighter from Miami Beach who went to Miami to watch Mr. Thompson speak, said he came away impressed.</p>
<p>&ldquo;I like his straightforwardness,&rdquo; Mr. Hall said. &ldquo;He comes across as a guy who stands by his principles. That&#8217;s why I like George W. Bush, and I see the same thing in him. You&#8217;ve got to be strong.&rdquo;</p>
<p>Between his campaign stops, Mr. Thompson has been spending most of his time riding on his bus with a coterie of advisers.</p>
<p>Several of Mr. Thompson&#8217;s aides said he had been spending his time being briefed, often on the phone with advisers. And much of the discussion has focused on economics and security, said Rich Galen, a senior adviser to the campaign. &ldquo;He&#8217;s been going through the briefing books,&rdquo; Mr. Galen said.</p>
<p>But once off the bus, Mr. Thompson has shown occasional signs of discomfort. In a speech here on Friday, he sweated profusely under the afternoon sun, breathed heavily and, while struggling over a question, asked no one in particular if his microphone was on. (It was.)</p>
<p>Some audience members, in a crowd that easily reached into the hundreds, winced as Mr. Thompson sweated through the question-and-answer session.</p>
<p>&ldquo;I&#8217;m surprised they didn&#8217;t pull him out of there,&rdquo; said John Chambers of nearby Punta Gorda, after the speech ended. Suzanne Miranda, who watched the event from a lawn chair, said, &ldquo;I felt bad for him.&rdquo;</p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/09/open-thread-916/#comment-185724</link>
		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 22:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just for you ???, since you are unable to click on a link in order to read:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fred08.com/Principles/PrinciplesSummary.aspx?View=Federalism&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.fred08.com/Principles/PrinciplesSummary.aspx?View=Federalism&lt;/a&gt;

The Framers drew their design for our Constitution from a basic understanding of human nature. From the wisdom of the ages and from fresh experience, they understood the better angels of our nature, and the less admirable qualities of human beings entrusted with power.

The Framers believed in free markets, rights of property and the rule of law, and they set these principles firmly in the Constitution. Above all, the Framers enshrined in our founding documents, and left to our care, the principle that rights come from our Creator and not from our government.

We developed institutions that allowed these principles to take root and flourish: a government of limited powers derived from, and assigned to, first the people, then the states, and finally the national government. A government strong enough to protect us and do its job competently, but modest and humane enough to let the people govern themselves. Centralized government is not the solution to all of our problems and – with too much power – such centralization has a way of compounding our problems. This was among the great insights of 1787, and it is just as vital in 2007.

The federalist construct of strong states and limited federal government put in place by our Founders was intended to give states the freedom to experiment and innovate. It envisions states as laboratories in competition with each other to develop ideas and programs to benefit their people, to see what works and what does not.

This ingenious means of governing a large and diverse nation prevailed for more than a century. But today our Constitution and the limited, federalist government it established, are considered by many to be quaint or out of touch with the world we live in, to be swept aside by political expediency.

The Supreme Court sometimes ignores the written Constitution to reflect its view of the times. So does Congress, which routinely forgets that our checks and balances, the separation of powers and our system of federalism are designed to diffuse power and protect the liberties of our people. Before anything else, folks in Washington ought to be asking first and foremost, &#8220;Should government be doing this? And if so, then at what level of government?&#8221; But they don&#039;t.

The result has been decades of growth in the size, scope and function of national government. Today&#039;s governance of mandates, pre-emptions, regulations, and federal programs bears little resemblance to the balanced system the Framers intended.

This in no way diminishes the important role played by the national government, including ensuring our national security, and regulating interstate commerce to promote free markets. Indeed, a commitment to federalism would help the federal government do a better job in addressing national emergencies and emerging threats, because it could focus on these issues rather than on everything else it is trying to do. A proper regard for constitutional boundaries would also go a long way in avoiding the arguments that follow when Washington acts by decree, disregarding the elected representatives of the fifty states.

You know better than anyone how involvement from Washington affects nearly every policy, program, and aspect of your jobs. But beyond the nuisance of duplicative state and federal requirements, one might wonder if a division of responsibility between the federal government and the states is still important. The answer must be a resounding yes.

Federalism is not an 18th century notion. Or a 19th century notion. It retains its force as a basic principle in the 21st century, because when federalism is ignored, accountability, innovation, and public confidence in government at all levels suffer.

It is as true today as it ever was: the closer a government is to its people, the more responsive it is to the felt needs of its constituencies. Too often, however, state and local leaders have to answer to federal bureaucrats first and their constituents second. When the federal government mandates a program that states and localities are forced to implement, or when a federal grant program is created to fund a specific state or community need, it blurs the lines of accountability.

Who answers to the people if a program fails? The federal government will point to state authorities carrying out the program; the states will point to the federal government, which came up with the program in the first place. And in the end no one is more confused than the people the program is supposed to be serving, who can&#039;t even say for sure who is responsible for what. This does not argue against all federal programs but it does require the recognition that there, indeed, are trade-offs.

Back in my days in the Senate, I found myself on the short end of a couple of 99 to 1 votes. They involved issues that had been under the purview of states for over 200 years. I asked why we should federalize what rightly were state and local issues.

I&#039;ve been saying it for years, and it bears repeating: what works in Tennessee may not work in Nebraska and may be different from what succeeds in Oregon. That&#039;s why President Ronald Reagan compared federalism to letting a thousand sparks of genius in the states and communities around this country catch fire. It&#039;s not a perfect system, but it works a lot better than the alternative of central planning.

We need to allow local authorities to apply their own good ideas and use their own good judgment. Each state can find its own way, learning from the successes and failures of the others. There is a wealth of creativity and initiative out there in the states, and often the best ideas in Washington started out as state initiatives.

A good example of this early in my Senate service was welfare reform. We were warned that terrible things would happen if we went forward with a bill – a fundamental commitment would be abandoned and, among state governments, a &#8220;race to the bottom&#8221; would begin.

But key to our approach were elements of welfare reform that had proved successful in various states, such as Colorado, Michigan and Wisconsin. The result was a law that allowed us to better meet our commitments to our fellow citizens. It was one of the great political successes of the 1990&#039;s, because Washington – for once – had the good sense to learn from state and local authorities and empower them in return.

When you hold firm to the principles of federalism, there&#039;s another advantage: our federal government can better carry out its own defining responsibilities – above all else, the security of our nation and the safety of our citizens. Sometimes I think that our leaders in Washington try to do so many things, in so many areas, that they lose sight of their basic responsibilities.

We saw some improvement in the post-1994, &#8220;Contract with America&#8221; takeover of Congress – strings to federal programs were cut, more federal programs were being turned over to states, historic legislation to reduce unfunded mandates became law, and we rolled back the Clinton anti-federalism executive order. But in recent years we&#039;ve seen backsliding.

The recent immigration bill was a case in point. That bill failed, and it failed for good reason. The federal government simply had no credibility on the issue.

The promises of the 1986 immigration bill have not been fulfilled. Current laws have not been enforced. The federal government has been failing in its fundamental responsibility to control the borders. Worse, when state officials have tried to act with reforms of their own, federal authorities have gotten in the way. In the end, many in both parties in Congress have learned a lesson: promises about immigration reform aren&#039;t worth much unless you have credibility. And in this case there&#039;s only one way that credibility can be regained. Federal leaders must do their job and secure the borders of the United States.

Law enforcement in general is a matter on which Congress has been very active in recent years, not always to good effect and usually at the expense of state authority. When I served as a federal prosecutor, there were not all that many federal crimes, and most of those involved federal interests. Since the 1980&#039;s, however, Congress has aggressively federalized all sorts of crimes that the states have traditionally prosecuted and punished. While these federal laws allow Members of Congress to tell the voters how tough they are on crime, there are few good reasons why most of them are necessary.

For example, it is a specific federal crime to use the symbol of 4-H Clubs with the intent to defraud. And don&#039;t even think about using the Swiss Confederation&#039;s coat of arms for commercial purposes. That&#039;s a federal offense, too.

Groups as diverse as the American Bar Association and the Heritage Foundation have reported that there are more than three thousand, five hundred distinct federal crimes and more than 10,000 administrative regulations scattered over 50 section of the U.S. code that runs at more than 27,000 pages. More than 40 percent of these regulatory criminal laws have been enacted since 1973.

I held hearings on the over-federalization of criminal law when I was in the Senate. You hear that the states are not doing a good job at prosecuting certain crimes, that their sentencing laws are not tough enough, that it&#039;s too easy to make bail in state court. If these are true, why allow those responsible in the states to shirk that responsibility by having the federal government make up for the shortcomings in state law? Accountability gets displaced.

Now, there are plenty of areas in criminal law where a federal role is appropriate. More and more crime occurs across state and national boundaries; the Internet is increasingly a haven for illegal activity. A federal role is appropriate in these and other instances. But today the Federal Bureau of Prisons has quadrupled in size in little more than 20 years.

Perhaps the clearest example of federal over-involvement in state and local responsibilities is public education. It&#039;s the classic case of how the federal government buys authority over state and local matters with tax-payer money and ends up squandering both the authority and the money while imposing additional burdens on states.

Between 1970 and 2005, federal spending on education increased nearly 150 percent without results to match. The No Child Left Behind law itself increased federal funding by some 26 percent, while creating 50 new educational programs nationally, imposing almost 7 million hours and more than 140 million dollars in compliance time and costs. The classrooms of America, where the learning actually takes place, receive but 61 cents out of every tax-payer dollar appropriated.

A little more federalist confidence in the wisdom of state and local governments might go a long way toward improving America&#039;s public schools. The most encouraging reforms in education are occurring at the local level, with options like charter schools. And often the best thing Washington can do is let the states, school districts, teachers and parents set their own policies and run their own schools.

It is appropriate for the federal government to provide funding and set goals for the state to meet in exchange for that funding. However, it is not a good idea for the federal government to specifically set forth the means to be used in order to reach those goals. Adherence to this principle would make for fewer bureaucracies, fewer regulations, and less expense, while promoting educational achievement. There are bills pending in Congress that would move us in this direction, and I hope Congress gives them the attention they deserve.

Beyond specific policies, what&#039;s needed are some basic rules to restrain the federal rule-makers.

A good first step would be to codify the Executive Order on Federalism first signed by President Ronald Reagan. That Executive Order, first revoked by President Clinton, then modified to the point of uselessness, required agencies to respect the principle of the Tenth Amendment when formulating policies and implementing the laws passed by Congress. It preserved the division of responsibilities between the states and the federal government envisioned by the Framers of the Constitution. It was a fine idea that should never have been revoked. The next president should put it right back in effect, and see to it that the rightful authority of state and local governments is respected.

It is not enough to say that we are &#8220;for&#8221; federalism, because in today&#039;s world it is not always clear what that means. What we are &#8220;for&#8221; is liberty for our citizens. Federalism divides power between the states and government in Washington. It is a tool to promote freedom. How we draw the line between federal and state roles in this century, and how we stay true to the principles of federalism for the purpose of protecting economic and individual freedom are questions we must answer. Our challenge – meaning the federal government, the states, our communities and constituents – is to answer these questions together.
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<p>The Framers drew their design for our Constitution from a basic understanding of human nature. From the wisdom of the ages and from fresh experience, they understood the better angels of our nature, and the less admirable qualities of human beings entrusted with power.</p>
<p>The Framers believed in free markets, rights of property and the rule of law, and they set these principles firmly in the Constitution. Above all, the Framers enshrined in our founding documents, and left to our care, the principle that rights come from our Creator and not from our government.</p>
<p>We developed institutions that allowed these principles to take root and flourish: a government of limited powers derived from, and assigned to, first the people, then the states, and finally the national government. A government strong enough to protect us and do its job competently, but modest and humane enough to let the people govern themselves. Centralized government is not the solution to all of our problems and – with too much power – such centralization has a way of compounding our problems. This was among the great insights of 1787, and it is just as vital in 2007.</p>
<p>The federalist construct of strong states and limited federal government put in place by our Founders was intended to give states the freedom to experiment and innovate. It envisions states as laboratories in competition with each other to develop ideas and programs to benefit their people, to see what works and what does not.</p>
<p>This ingenious means of governing a large and diverse nation prevailed for more than a century. But today our Constitution and the limited, federalist government it established, are considered by many to be quaint or out of touch with the world we live in, to be swept aside by political expediency.</p>
<p>The Supreme Court sometimes ignores the written Constitution to reflect its view of the times. So does Congress, which routinely forgets that our checks and balances, the separation of powers and our system of federalism are designed to diffuse power and protect the liberties of our people. Before anything else, folks in Washington ought to be asking first and foremost, &ldquo;Should government be doing this? And if so, then at what level of government?&rdquo; But they don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>The result has been decades of growth in the size, scope and function of national government. Today&#8217;s governance of mandates, pre-emptions, regulations, and federal programs bears little resemblance to the balanced system the Framers intended.</p>
<p>This in no way diminishes the important role played by the national government, including ensuring our national security, and regulating interstate commerce to promote free markets. Indeed, a commitment to federalism would help the federal government do a better job in addressing national emergencies and emerging threats, because it could focus on these issues rather than on everything else it is trying to do. A proper regard for constitutional boundaries would also go a long way in avoiding the arguments that follow when Washington acts by decree, disregarding the elected representatives of the fifty states.</p>
<p>You know better than anyone how involvement from Washington affects nearly every policy, program, and aspect of your jobs. But beyond the nuisance of duplicative state and federal requirements, one might wonder if a division of responsibility between the federal government and the states is still important. The answer must be a resounding yes.</p>
<p>Federalism is not an 18th century notion. Or a 19th century notion. It retains its force as a basic principle in the 21st century, because when federalism is ignored, accountability, innovation, and public confidence in government at all levels suffer.</p>
<p>It is as true today as it ever was: the closer a government is to its people, the more responsive it is to the felt needs of its constituencies. Too often, however, state and local leaders have to answer to federal bureaucrats first and their constituents second. When the federal government mandates a program that states and localities are forced to implement, or when a federal grant program is created to fund a specific state or community need, it blurs the lines of accountability.</p>
<p>Who answers to the people if a program fails? The federal government will point to state authorities carrying out the program; the states will point to the federal government, which came up with the program in the first place. And in the end no one is more confused than the people the program is supposed to be serving, who can&#8217;t even say for sure who is responsible for what. This does not argue against all federal programs but it does require the recognition that there, indeed, are trade-offs.</p>
<p>Back in my days in the Senate, I found myself on the short end of a couple of 99 to 1 votes. They involved issues that had been under the purview of states for over 200 years. I asked why we should federalize what rightly were state and local issues.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been saying it for years, and it bears repeating: what works in Tennessee may not work in Nebraska and may be different from what succeeds in Oregon. That&#8217;s why President Ronald Reagan compared federalism to letting a thousand sparks of genius in the states and communities around this country catch fire. It&#8217;s not a perfect system, but it works a lot better than the alternative of central planning.</p>
<p>We need to allow local authorities to apply their own good ideas and use their own good judgment. Each state can find its own way, learning from the successes and failures of the others. There is a wealth of creativity and initiative out there in the states, and often the best ideas in Washington started out as state initiatives.</p>
<p>A good example of this early in my Senate service was welfare reform. We were warned that terrible things would happen if we went forward with a bill – a fundamental commitment would be abandoned and, among state governments, a &ldquo;race to the bottom&rdquo; would begin.</p>
<p>But key to our approach were elements of welfare reform that had proved successful in various states, such as Colorado, Michigan and Wisconsin. The result was a law that allowed us to better meet our commitments to our fellow citizens. It was one of the great political successes of the 1990&#8217;s, because Washington – for once – had the good sense to learn from state and local authorities and empower them in return.</p>
<p>When you hold firm to the principles of federalism, there&#8217;s another advantage: our federal government can better carry out its own defining responsibilities – above all else, the security of our nation and the safety of our citizens. Sometimes I think that our leaders in Washington try to do so many things, in so many areas, that they lose sight of their basic responsibilities.</p>
<p>We saw some improvement in the post-1994, &ldquo;Contract with America&rdquo; takeover of Congress – strings to federal programs were cut, more federal programs were being turned over to states, historic legislation to reduce unfunded mandates became law, and we rolled back the Clinton anti-federalism executive order. But in recent years we&#8217;ve seen backsliding.</p>
<p>The recent immigration bill was a case in point. That bill failed, and it failed for good reason. The federal government simply had no credibility on the issue.</p>
<p>The promises of the 1986 immigration bill have not been fulfilled. Current laws have not been enforced. The federal government has been failing in its fundamental responsibility to control the borders. Worse, when state officials have tried to act with reforms of their own, federal authorities have gotten in the way. In the end, many in both parties in Congress have learned a lesson: promises about immigration reform aren&#8217;t worth much unless you have credibility. And in this case there&#8217;s only one way that credibility can be regained. Federal leaders must do their job and secure the borders of the United States.</p>
<p>Law enforcement in general is a matter on which Congress has been very active in recent years, not always to good effect and usually at the expense of state authority. When I served as a federal prosecutor, there were not all that many federal crimes, and most of those involved federal interests. Since the 1980&#8217;s, however, Congress has aggressively federalized all sorts of crimes that the states have traditionally prosecuted and punished. While these federal laws allow Members of Congress to tell the voters how tough they are on crime, there are few good reasons why most of them are necessary.</p>
<p>For example, it is a specific federal crime to use the symbol of 4-H Clubs with the intent to defraud. And don&#8217;t even think about using the Swiss Confederation&#8217;s coat of arms for commercial purposes. That&#8217;s a federal offense, too.</p>
<p>Groups as diverse as the American Bar Association and the Heritage Foundation have reported that there are more than three thousand, five hundred distinct federal crimes and more than 10,000 administrative regulations scattered over 50 section of the U.S. code that runs at more than 27,000 pages. More than 40 percent of these regulatory criminal laws have been enacted since 1973.</p>
<p>I held hearings on the over-federalization of criminal law when I was in the Senate. You hear that the states are not doing a good job at prosecuting certain crimes, that their sentencing laws are not tough enough, that it&#8217;s too easy to make bail in state court. If these are true, why allow those responsible in the states to shirk that responsibility by having the federal government make up for the shortcomings in state law? Accountability gets displaced.</p>
<p>Now, there are plenty of areas in criminal law where a federal role is appropriate. More and more crime occurs across state and national boundaries; the Internet is increasingly a haven for illegal activity. A federal role is appropriate in these and other instances. But today the Federal Bureau of Prisons has quadrupled in size in little more than 20 years.</p>
<p>Perhaps the clearest example of federal over-involvement in state and local responsibilities is public education. It&#8217;s the classic case of how the federal government buys authority over state and local matters with tax-payer money and ends up squandering both the authority and the money while imposing additional burdens on states.</p>
<p>Between 1970 and 2005, federal spending on education increased nearly 150 percent without results to match. The No Child Left Behind law itself increased federal funding by some 26 percent, while creating 50 new educational programs nationally, imposing almost 7 million hours and more than 140 million dollars in compliance time and costs. The classrooms of America, where the learning actually takes place, receive but 61 cents out of every tax-payer dollar appropriated.</p>
<p>A little more federalist confidence in the wisdom of state and local governments might go a long way toward improving America&#8217;s public schools. The most encouraging reforms in education are occurring at the local level, with options like charter schools. And often the best thing Washington can do is let the states, school districts, teachers and parents set their own policies and run their own schools.</p>
<p>It is appropriate for the federal government to provide funding and set goals for the state to meet in exchange for that funding. However, it is not a good idea for the federal government to specifically set forth the means to be used in order to reach those goals. Adherence to this principle would make for fewer bureaucracies, fewer regulations, and less expense, while promoting educational achievement. There are bills pending in Congress that would move us in this direction, and I hope Congress gives them the attention they deserve.</p>
<p>Beyond specific policies, what&#8217;s needed are some basic rules to restrain the federal rule-makers.</p>
<p>A good first step would be to codify the Executive Order on Federalism first signed by President Ronald Reagan. That Executive Order, first revoked by President Clinton, then modified to the point of uselessness, required agencies to respect the principle of the Tenth Amendment when formulating policies and implementing the laws passed by Congress. It preserved the division of responsibilities between the states and the federal government envisioned by the Framers of the Constitution. It was a fine idea that should never have been revoked. The next president should put it right back in effect, and see to it that the rightful authority of state and local governments is respected.</p>
<p>It is not enough to say that we are &ldquo;for&rdquo; federalism, because in today&#8217;s world it is not always clear what that means. What we are &ldquo;for&rdquo; is liberty for our citizens. Federalism divides power between the states and government in Washington. It is a tool to promote freedom. How we draw the line between federal and state roles in this century, and how we stay true to the principles of federalism for the purpose of protecting economic and individual freedom are questions we must answer. Our challenge – meaning the federal government, the states, our communities and constituents – is to answer these questions together.</p>
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