Feds should not dump immigration on states

“We need a comprehensive federal policy. We can’t solve it a state at a time, and that’s what it’s been left to.” — Gov. Kathleen Sebelius, president of the Democratic Governors Association, speaking to reporters last week at the Clinton School of Public Service in Little Rock, Ark.
Posted by Phillip Brownlee

13 Comments

  1. political_mom
    Posted September 24, 2007 at 1:25 am | Permalink

    yup.

    But BRAVO for Sebelius for sticking to her guns on the sex disrimination ban in state jobs.

    Just wanted to get that out there before people start ripping on what a crappy governor we have. I think she’s fine except for a few things. But we can’t all agree all the time.

  2. Posted September 24, 2007 at 1:40 am | Permalink

    Sebelius speaks with forked tongue. Drivers licenses and in-state rates for illegal aliens. Clean up your own act first Governor before asking the Feds to do it for you.

  3. time for change
    Posted September 24, 2007 at 1:45 am | Permalink

    It was just a few months ago that she said Kansas should do something about illegals. This was after the press release about a bill being introduced next year to deal with illegals like Oklahoma and Colorado have. She was aked by a reporter about what she thought of the bill.

    So which is it Governor?

  4. Posted September 24, 2007 at 7:47 am | Permalink

    Illegals in the state of Kansas can’t be deported _by_ the State of Kansas; only the Feds can do it. And they’re not doing their jobs.

    The driver’s license issue is a no-brainer, and only no-brainers don’t get it. No license means no insurance, which means _WE_ have to pay when there’s a wreck involving an unlicensed driver. We can’t kick these people out, but we need safe roads, and we need drivers who are financially responsible.

    And the in-state tuition is a red herring. It’s ONLY for kids who have gone to Kansas public schools for the previous four years – ie, high school. Why are we going to punish children who had no say in the actions of their parents?

  5. Posted September 24, 2007 at 8:00 am | Permalink

    There is no state law that requires a person to have auto insurance in order to get a driver’s license. The only time you need to prove your auto insurance is when you buy your tags. Many people buy insurance on a monthly pay plan, when they need to get tags and then, stop paying and the insurance is cancelled. But, those people already have their auto tags. The Kansas Legislature can stop this by passing a law that requires an insurance company to only sell auto insurance on an annual basis and not be able to cancel it for failure of those installment payments. In Kansas-never happen. Too many legilators are owned by the insurance industry.

  6. political_mom
    Posted September 24, 2007 at 8:02 am | Permalink

    Even I have issue of American kids paying out of state tuition when someone illegal gets state rates. I’m all for education for the children of illegal aliens, but not when other legal Americans can’t get the same benefits.

    Why do we pay different rates anyway?

  7. Posted September 24, 2007 at 8:03 am | Permalink

    Thinkfirst,

    You can’t register a car in Kansas without A) insurance and B) a driver’s license. And insurance companies won’t sell policies to unlicensed drivers. Additionally, you can’t take your driving test without displaying proof of insurance to the driving examiner.

  8. We need to act to prevent sneaky amnesty bill
    Posted September 24, 2007 at 8:41 am | Permalink

    The Pro AMNESTY LEADERS IN THE US Senate is again attempting to sneak an AMNESTY AMMENDMENT by the American people in the form of SA 2929 to the D.O.D bill. We need to act now by calling your senators and letting them know this will not be tolerated.

    The DREAM Act (Amendment 2929 to the Defense Authorization bill) is a nightmare. It is a massive amnesty that extends to the millions of illegal aliens who entered the United States before the age of 16.
    · The DREAM Act allows illegal “teens” to petition for their parents, leading eventually to their aunts, uncles, grandparents and cousins:

    The big argument for this amnesty is that it is for teenagers who are here illegally because their parents broke the law. As you will see in later bullet points, far more than teens can get this amnesty. Nonetheless, the argument is that the teenagers should not be punished for the crimes of their parents.

    But as soon as DREAM amnesty citizens are over 21, they can bring in their parents who broke the law to get them into the country. The chief criminals will be rewarded after all.

    And because of Chain Migration, the amnestied “teens” can see their aunts, uncles, cousins and grandparents getting permanent U.S. residency as well.
    · The DREAM Act does not Protect Americans from Terrorists and Criminals:

    Illegal immigrants are not required to submit fingerprints or undergo background security checks at any point in the DREAM Act process. Therefore, DHS has no way of learning whether an alien seeking DREAM Act amnesty is a terrorist or criminal. This security failure is compounded by the confidentiality section of the DREAM Act, which is a relic from pre-9/11 days (it’s modeled on the fraud-prone 1986 amnesty). This section basically requires DHS to hide information about terrorist and criminal aliens from itself. If a DHS adjudicator at USCIS learns from a DREAM Act application that an alien poses terrorist or criminal concerns, the adjudicator is prohibited from alerting ICE enforcement officers at DHS, and in fact, if the adjudicator did volunteer such information to ICE, he could be fined $10,000. To cap it all, DHS is prohibited from removing from the United States all aliens, including criminals, terrorists, fraudsters, and other ineligible aliens while they have a DREAM Act application pending, even if that application is based upon fraud or the alien is ineligible.
    · The DREAM Act Offers Citizenship to Illegal Aliens Who Lack Good Moral Character:

    The DREAM Act does not require that aliens have a history of good moral character; it only requires that they have good moral character from the time that they apply. This means that criminal aliens, terrorists, and other aliens who lack good moral character before they apply get an amnesty for their pre-application period conduct, no matter how bad or extensive that conduct.
    · The DREAM Act is Not Just for Young People:

    Sponsors insist that the point of the DREAM Act is to provide legal status to “kids” and “young people.” However, the DREAM Act is not directed at minors, as there is no age cap involved. Anyone, regardless of age, who illegally entered the United States before the age of 16 and has illegally remained here for 5 years or more will qualify for lawful permanent residence (and eventual citizenship) if they satisfy the easily-met criteria for DREAM Act amnesty.
    · The DREAM Act is a Big Amnesty:

    It’s estimated there are some 2 million illegal immigrant children in the United States. They are only a portion of the millions of aliens who will likely qualify for the DREAM Act amnesty, because the DREAM Act does not place a cap on the number of people who qualify, does not limit the age of those who qualify, and applies retroactively to anyone who first entered before age 16.
    · The DREAM Act is Deceptive:

    The marketing campaign for the DREAM Act makes as though the amnesty is intended for high school graduates who are on their way to college or military service. But the bill as written ensures that illegal immigrants don’t have to attend high school or go to college to qualify for the amnesty: they need only take an ability-to-benefit test and complete a 1-year vocational program to get eventual citizenship (and there’s no requirement that they actually complete their college education). Nor do aliens have to join the Armed Forces: they need only go to work for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration or Public Health Service for 2 years to get eventual citizenship.
    · The DREAM Act is a Fraud Machine:

    We know from experience that amnesty from immigration laws generates massive fraud, and the DREAM Act is no exception. Nothing in the DREAM Act will prevent a 50-year old alien from asserting that he entered the United States before the age of 16 and has remained here ever since. The DREAM Act is silent on how DHS will determine the veracity of such claims. The DREAM Act will actually promote fraud because it prevents DHS from deporting aliens who’ve applied for the amnesty until their applications are resolved – a process that will likely take years, because DHS lacks the resources to rapidly process the millions of applications it will receive. Even if DHS eventually decides that some aliens do not qualify for the amnesty, DHS cannot use the statements aliens made in their applications to deport them, because their statements are protected by the confidentiality section in the DREAM Act.
    · The DREAM Act is Unfair to American Students and Taxpayers:

    The DREAM Act would repeal the 1996 law which says that State colleges and universities cannot offer in-state tuition benefits to resident illegal immigrants unless they offer the same benefits to students who are U.S. citizens. So, an 18-year old United States citizen attending school in a different state will pay substantially more money for his college education than a 30-year old illegal alien residing in that state. Because public colleges and universities are heavily subsidized by taxpayers, Americans end up paying the bill for educating illegal immigrants. Further, because the repeal of the 1996 law is retroactive, illegal aliens who formerly paid out-of-state tuition will have the ability and motivation to sue for the difference between what they paid and the in-state rate.
    · The DREAM Act Puts Illegal Immigrants at the Front of the Line for Green Cards:

    The DREAM Act requires that applications for its amnesty must be expedited, bars DHS from charging fees for expedited service, and fails to provide DHS the additional personnel and equipment needed to handle expedited applications. Because millions of people will file applications for DREAM Act amnesty (regardless of whether or not they eventually qualify), DHS will experience a significant backlog of cases that will necessarily slow DHS’ ability to process conventional business and family visas, and applications for naturalization. This will adversely impact our economy, and disrupt the settled expectations of intending legal immigrants to the United States.
    · The DREAM Act Will Allow Dangerous Criminal Aliens to Remain At Large in the United States:

    DHS lacks the resources to detain all criminal aliens it encounters in the United States, and so DHS has to pick and choose which criminals to hold for deportation. When DHS deports a criminal alien, the detention or “bed space” vacated by the out-going criminal is immediately filled by another criminal alien. The DREAM Act does not disqualify anyone (even criminals) from filing an application and bars DHS from removing any alien who’s filed an application for amnesty. Thus, criminal aliens who have no desire to be deported will file DREAM Act applications to halt or slow their deportations, which means they will spend more time taking up detention space which could be used to house other criminal aliens. That means more criminal aliens whom DHS cannot house will be free to roam the United States. The DREAM Act also creates an opportunity for extremely dangerous criminal aliens to be released into the general population. By law, a criminal alien who is subject to a final order of removal must be released from DHS custody within 90 days if his removal is not “reasonably foreseeable.” As mentioned previously, the DREAM Act does not allocate resources to DHS to process the millions of applications that are sure to be filed, which will result in very lengthy delays. The result? A dangerous criminal alien who would otherwise have been removed from the United States files his DREAM Act application, and when that application stalls at DHS with millions of others, he can file a petition in a district court after 90 days to effect his release because his removal is not “reasonably foreseeable.”

    Senator Sam Brownback contact information- Taken from his web site

    Office location Phone # Fax #Washington DC office 1-202-224-6521 1-202-228-1265Overland Park Office 1-913-492-6378 1-913-492-7253Topeka office 1-785-233-2503 1-785-233-2616Garden City office 1-620-231-6040 1-620-231-6347Wichita office 1-316-264-8066 1-316-264-9078

    Senator Pat Roberts Contact Information Taken from his web site

    Washington DC office 1-202-224-4774 1-202-224-3514
    Overland Park Office 1-913-451-9343 1-913-451-9446Topeka office 1-785-295-2745 1-785-235-3665Wichita office 1-316-263-0416 1-316-263-0273Dodge City Office 1-620-227-2244 1-620-227-2264

    Representative Todd Tiahrt, Contact information taken from his web site

    Wichita OfficeAddress: 155 North Market St.Suite 400Wichita, KS 67202Phone: 316.262.8992Fax: 316.262.5309Washington Office
    Address: 2441 Rayburn BuildingWashington, DC 20515Phone: 202.225.6216Fax: 202.225.3489

  9. Max
    Posted September 24, 2007 at 9:35 am | Permalink

    The H you say? The state of Kansas has NO POWER against illegal immigration in the state of Kansas?

    Vote for Me!

    Kathleen Sebelius

    I Can’t Do Anything for You!

  10. mbill
    Posted September 24, 2007 at 12:09 pm | Permalink

    We should start by NOT reciprocating with states such as NY which just last week started giving out DL to illegals. We have no idea of who they are etc.

    We need to require a VERIFIED SS# to even get a car loan, home loan etc.

    Oklahoma passed a very harsh illegal law a few months ago and it goes into effect Nov. 1st. Tulsa just announced that over 25,000 illegals have already left the state. They pulled all medicare and all state benefits without a validated SS# and checked out all id.

    http://www.ktul.com/news/stories/0807/449699.html

    Tulsa and other Law Enforcement officers are not receiving what is called Section 287g training which allows them to then enforce immigration laws. This helps with the gang and drive by problem we now have in Wichita and should be required here.

    http://www.ktul.com/news/stories/0807/449251.html

    Has reduced class size and reduced money needed for schools etc. Working great.

    But the problem is now they are likely headed here. So we need to get on the legislative ball and get this cleaned up.

    Our legislators need to face up to the fact that today the Peasants come not with wooden Pitchforks, but with Electronic ones. And are far more dangerous to their political lives.

    Ive asked the Federal Dept of Justice to initiate a RICO action against Kansas and the other 9 states that defy federal law by giving in-state tuition. But I doubt they would initiate anything on their own. But if some of you rich folks could it would be to fun. The 1996 Immigration act gives private individuals the right to initiate a RICO action if they have been harmed by policies etc.

  11. Wiseman
    Posted September 24, 2007 at 1:29 pm | Permalink

    I am surprised that Gov. Sebelius does not grasp the revelation that the Federal government has abandon its own citizens or at lease she does not want to admit it.I am also surprised that Gov. Sebelius does not understand how a territory becomes recognized as a state and enters in an agreement with Federalism.Gov. Sebelius should try to be more focus on making Kansas independent rather than dependent.

  12. American Way
    Posted September 24, 2007 at 2:41 pm | Permalink

    Gov. Sebelius may not be able to stop illegal immigrants from entering our country, but she sure as hell can hang out the NOT WELCOMED mat. Instead of giving their children in-state tuition and drivers license, we should be like Missouri and detain any encountered.

    Making Kansas an unattractive destination for illegal criminals is completely within her power.

  13. Patriot
    Posted September 24, 2007 at 9:22 pm | Permalink

    BushDaBum has dumped everything on others for his entire life. He represents his Repuke Party well.