Sen. Joe Biden asked a good question at Thursday’s AARP presidential forum in Iowa: “What’s changed to make you think Hillary is going to be able to put together the 15 percent of Republicans” who will be needed to enact any overhaul of the health care system? Voters, particularly in primaries, often don’t consider the practical reality that Republicans or Democrats, by themselves, usually don’t have enough votes to get legislation approved. That’s especially true in the Senate, which can require 60 votes to cut off debate. So whether the issue is universal health care or Iraq, a president needs to be able to attract bipartisan support.
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I don;t see any of these a**holes being bipartisan—that includes all the major candidates of both major parties.
OR, we can elect all democrats in the next election and let them clean up the mess the republicans left behind.
OR, we can elect all democrats in the next election and let them clean up the mess the republicans left behind.
Posted by: political_mom | September 21, 2007 at 02:12 PM
HAHAHHAHA! Good one.
The only time both parties act bi-partisan is when they agree to vote for everybody’s pork spending, now affectionately called earmarks.
Call that effective?
Bi-partisan means “not taking a stand on what you believe in”.
Not having any core beliefs is the problem with many politicians.
Bipartisan: A term used to refer to an effort endorsed by both political parties or a group composed of members of both political parties.———————————–
Aren’t the whole bunch of them behind the effort to stuff their pockets as full as possible?
Could we also say the whole bunch of them count on WE THE PEOPLE not paying enough attention to actually hold them accountable for anything?
Aren’t they all protected with excellent health benefits, even better retirement benefits agreed upon by the whole bunch of them?
Guess they’re all bipartisan!
You got that right Lindalinks!
The feeling of pride we have for them, why it just warms the cockles of your heart.
And we’re so proud of us too! We go back and reelect them regularly!
Hillary Clinton: I’m not a lesbian
Friday, September 21st 2007, 4:00 AM
Hillary Clinton has publicly announced that she is not a lesbian.
Hillary Clinton officially declared she’s not a lesbian – not that there’s anything wrong with that.
During an interview with The Advocate to be published next week, Sean Kennedy, the gay magazine’s news and features editor, asked the presidential candidate, “How do you respond to the occasional rumor that you’re a lesbian?”
“People say a lot of things about me, so I really don’t pay any attention to it,” Sen. Clinton (D-N.Y.) replied.
“It’s not true, but it is something that I have no control over. People will say what they want to say.”
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/wn_report/2007/09/21/2007-09-21_hillary_clinton_im_not_a_lesbian.html?ref=rss
Oh, sorry about that last post. I thought the Post Topic was:
Being effective usually requires being bi-sexual
My mistake.
No, I never had sexual relations with that woman!
No, I never had sexual relations with that woman!
Posted by: Markie Post
Markie,
You filthy liar. You know you did. Guess you aint getting any again.
Clinton as a wanna be Ladies’ Man or intended disinformation? -
Barbara Steisand – rumored – celebrityMarkie Post – rumored – actressSharon Stone – rumored – actressLencola Sullivan – rumored – beauty queenRegina Hopper Blakely – rumored – beauty queenMartha Stewart – rumored – celebrityHelen Thomas – rumored – White House news reporterDiana Wiley Pietsch rumored – sex therapist – Oxford.Princess Di – rumored – royalty, deceasedMadonna – rumored – celebrityhttp://www.varmintal.com/ladies.htm
Max’x post illustrates well why bi-aprtisanship no longer applies. A better way toward effectiveness is to bury the Repukes.
Bill Clinton floated an interesting theory last night on “The Daily Show.” Used to be, members of Congress came to Washington for six or seven months then went back to their states/districts the rest of the time. But the relentless pressure of raising campaign funds now sends them out of Washington three or four days a week.
Back in the day, Republics and Democrats would get a chance to socialize on the weekends, get to know each other personally, and even get to appreciate the other guys’ points of view. (Remember how Ronald Reagan and Tip O’Neil used to regularly meet for cocktails, even after they battled over policy and legislation?)
Today, not only because a congresscritter has to go home and raise money (and be surrounded by partisans), many spend more hours a week on airliners (and airport bathrooms) than they do on the floor of the House of Representatives. Clinton joked, “Maybe it’s sleep deprivation that makes them so cranky.”
Two steps could lead to more bi-partisanship:
1) Public Financing and media accessibility for all congressional candidates.
2) An Iowa-style non-partisan commission in all states to draw congressional districts.
Martha
Post the whole list. I know you jealous because Markie and Crystal B. like me better.
Dang, if only some are true, he has been busier than me.
CLINTON AND THE LADIES
Clinton Misogynism – SexJuanita Broaddrick (AR)- rapeEileen Wellstone (Oxford) – rapeElizabeth Ward Gracen – rape – post incident intimidationKathleen Willey (WH) – sexual assault, intimidations, threatsSandra Allen James (DC) – sexual assault22 Year Old 1972 (Yale) – sexual assaultCristy Zercher – unwelcomed sexual advance, intimidationsPaula Jones (AR) – unwelcomed sexual advance, exposure, bordering on sexual assaultCarolyn Moffet -unwelcomed sexual advance, exposure, bordering on sexual assault1974 student at University of Arkansas – unwelcomed physical contact1978-1980 – seven complaints per Arkansas state troopersMonica Lewinsky – post incident character assaultGennifer Flowers – post incident character assaultDolly Kyle Browning – post incident character assaultSally Perdue – post incident threatsBetty Dalton – rebuffed his advances, married to one of his supportersDenise Reeder – apologetic note scanned
Clinton Misogynism – OtherLinda Tripp – coerce, intimidate, deny – Bob Bennett calls her a liar, release her job application, transfer her.Julia Hiatt-Steele – Willey’s friend and neighbor – used the machine to change her story.Hillary Rodham Clinton – used as a cover humiliatedChelsea Clinton – ignoredBetty Currie – used as cover and enablerDonna Shalala – used as cover, used as whipping post in Cabinet meetingMadeline Albright – used as cover
Clinton as a Ladies’ Man?Marsha Scott – claimed an affairConnie Hamzy – claimed sexBobbie Ann Williams – claimed paid sex, paternity
Following are names of ladies rumored to have had sexual relations with Bill Clinton. We of course do not have information to support these rumors and do not intend the reader to think that we believe any of them to be true. Some could be true, some could be false and some could be intentionally spread rumors so absurd as to make the ones listed above and all other rumors look absurd as well. As always, please draw your own conclusions:
Clinton as a Ladies’ Man – RumorsMarilyn Jo Jenkins – rumoredSusan Coleman – rumored (suicide 7.5 months pregnant)Robyn Dickey -rumored rumored, stafferLenora Steinkamp – rumored – mystery jogger on video tape entering the “infamous hallway” with ClintonKimba Wood – rumored, judgeKelley Craighead – rumored, staffer to Bill and HillarySharline Wilson – rumored, claimed drug associationDee Dee Myers – rumored, stafferSuzie Whitacre – rumoredCatherine Cornelius – rumored, “distant cousin”.Cheryl Mills – rumored, WH attorney
Clinton as a Ladies’ Man – Rumors with quid pro quo?Beth Gladden Coulson – rumored – young judicial appointmentEleanor Mondale – rumored – celebrity daughter, dated Ron Perelman (see Jordan)Shelia Lawrence – rumored – Widow of AmbassadorDeborah Mathis – rumored – reporter/WH advancementsDebra Schiff – rumored – ex flight attendant, now stafferSusan McDougal – rumored – business connectionsBenazir Bhutto rumored – current opposition leader in, and former prime minister of Pakistan
Clinton as a wanna be Ladies’ Man or intended disinformation? – Rumors High ProfileBarbara Steisand – rumored – celebrityMarkie Post – rumored – actressSharon Stone – rumored – actressLencola Sullivan – rumored – beauty queenRegina Hopper Blakely – rumored – beauty queenMartha Stewart – rumored – celebrityDiana Wiley Pietsch rumored – sex therapist – Oxford.Princess Di – rumored – royalty, deceasedMadonna – rumored – celebrity
Max’x post illustrates well why bi-aprtisanship no longer applies. A better way toward effectiveness is to bury the Repukes.
Posted by: Ben
If you bury the repukes, who will you blame? No second party, no scapegoat. The other party has been around so the first party has a patsy.
“Markie Post’s Secret Lover” is a South Broadway Crack Whore – rumored.
“Dang, if only some are true, he has been busier than me.”
Where Joe Biden is concerned, plagerism helps too, as well as leaking secrets to the press.
OH, sorry, forget, Biden is NOT effective!
First of all it does NOT require 60 votes in the Senate to do anything. That is only a rule of the Senate and can be done away with at any time with a simple vote of 51 Senators. The Republicans almost did so last year when the Democrats were holding up court appointments (ie “the nuclear option”). The Democrats had better not play games when they get back a good majority next year. There is no need for “bi partisan” anything. They should ram their programs through with or without the Republicans. That is what we elected them to do. And thus far I am disappointed with this Congress that seems to be pussywhipped at every turn by Bush.
And another thing on earmarks- the Democrats need to make sure they spend most money for projects in blue areas of the country. There is no need for new highways or other things in areas where people will not possibly vote for you. Remember the folks that elected you.
And another thing on earmarks- the Democrats need to make sure they spend most money for projects in blue areas of the country. There is no need for new highways or other things in areas where people will not possibly vote for you. Remember the folks that elected you.
Posted by: Kev
Such a proposal would be illegal at best and as bad as anything the reps tried. If they only do stuff in blue states, red states should be exempt from income and other federal taxes. If the Constitution was being followed, states getting money would not be an issue.
‘Are you nuts” – have residents of Blue states been exempt from taxes these past 6 years?
The House under Pelosi should continue the tradition of the “majority of the majority”. That is that a majority of the majority party should set policy and all of the majority party then support that policy. The minoroty party can then be ignored.
If Repukes don’t like it they should be reminded that they developed that policy.
Kev, at least, is an “honest crook”— Buying votes is the heart of corruption, but it IS the legacy of FDR.FDR made sure MOST of his pork went to “swing” states.
‘Are you nuts” – have residents of Blue states been exempt from taxes these past 6 years?
The House under Pelosi should continue the tradition of the “majority of the majority”. That is that a majority of the majority party should set policy and all of the majority party then support that policy. The minoroty party can then be ignored.
If Repukes don’t like it they should be reminded that they developed that policy.
Posted by: Ben
Ben my point was in reference to Kevs comment about only giving stuff to blue states. Control of Congress is not the issue. As someone pointed out recently, it is seniority. Seniority determines much in Congress. Majority rule controls much in other areas of Congress. If you look at how much senior Democratic Congresspeople districts received during the republicans years, you might be surprised. Same thing for senior republicans during the democratic years.
As numerous others have stated repeatedly, saying they did it so now it’s our turn does not make it right. If it is wrong for one, it is wrong for the other. You also make it sound like this was started by the republics over the last six years. The demos have controlled Congress for many years before and were doing the same thing. Guess the republics learned from the demos.
I want Congress to do its job and stop shelling out billions in pork. I do not care if the pork is for Wichita or for Walla Walla. A million there a million here adds up quickly.
On your majority should follow the majority, that is outrageous. What happens when the majority leadership, republic or demo, chooses a stupid path? Should the party plunge off the cliff like lemmings? This is a bad tradition and has been a bad tradition since it was implemented many decades ago.
The nation needs to come first with all Congresspeople, irregardless of party. They may not get reelected, but we did not send them there to get reelected.
“Markie Post’s Secret Lover” is a South Broadway Crack Whore – rumored.
“Dang, if only some are true, he has been busier than me.”
Posted by: Long Time Poster, First Time Lurker
LTP, you naughty boy. It is not nice to call me a Crack Whore and you know I do not live on South Broadway. ;_)
Slave knows Mistress doesnt like it when Slave is naughty. It took Slave’s back a week to heal last time Slave was so naughty. Slave has kept Mistress waiting for over a week so get Slave down here now. The pictures came out beautifully. Slave looks smashing in that pink bra and garter set.
I forget Slave’s safe word Yes Mommy is it?
Ahhh… Joe,Hillary doesn’t have to attract 15% of Republican legislative votes, she will inherit the presidential powers of Bush — who needs a stinking congress…?
Joe Biden is the only candidate with enough experience to get er done.And he has the balls.
He is the only one I’ve seen that isn’t play-acting.He is what you see and hear.
Too bad he’ll never win.
“”"Such a proposal would be illegal at best and as bad as anything the reps tried. If they only do stuff in blue states, red states should be exempt from income and other federal taxes. If the Constitution was being followed, states getting money would not be an issue.”"”
I am not saying the red states should get nothing but the lions share of the cash should go to the blue states and the swing states especially. The red states have been riding on the backs of the blue states for too long. The blue states pay the most taxes to the Federal Government while red states like Montana, Alaska, Texas and North Dakota rake in the dough for highways, bridges and federal installations. It is time that the Democrats remember the people that voted for them. Places like Michigan need new highways and renewal. Chicago is going to have to replace its 100+ year old elevated train system in the future. These should take priority over bridges in Alaska where nobody lives anyway.
“”"As numerous others have stated repeatedly, saying they did it so now it’s our turn does not make it right. If it is wrong for one, it is wrong for the other. You also make it sound like this was started by the republics over the last six years. The demos have controlled Congress for many years before and were doing the same thing. Guess the republics learned from the demos.”"”"
Not so. The Democrats who controlled Congress in the prior era under Tip O’Neill were always very fair with the red states. Any Congressman in Congress at that time will admit that O’Neill was fair to them and to their districts. It was Tom DeLay that changed the rules and decided that pork and jobs should be doled out on a partisan basis. So now the rules have changed and the Congress is much more like the City of Chicago- vote for me and you get a new trash container and your driveway sealed by the city. That is the way it works now and I see no need to change anything. If the red states want projects, they can turn blue.