War price tag now tops $3 billion a week

President Bush plans to ask Congress for an additional $50 billion in funding to help pay for the surge in Iraq, the Washington Post reported. This is on top of the $147 billion in supplemental funding already requested for Iraq and Afghanistan. The cost of the war in Iraq now calculates to more than $3 billion a week.
Posted by Phillip Brownlee

62 Comments

  1. brian
    Posted August 29, 2007 at 12:35 pm | Permalink

    WOW

  2. SemperFi71
    Posted August 29, 2007 at 12:35 pm | Permalink

    It would be alot cheaper to buy the oil!

  3. Posted August 29, 2007 at 12:50 pm | Permalink

    Half of that money could end world hunger.

    But how would that help Halliburton?

    It wouldn’t.

    So it doesn’t happen.

  4. maidmarion
    Posted August 29, 2007 at 12:57 pm | Permalink

    And our country’s infrastructure is in need of repairs, New Orleans and the Gulf Coast are still have not received their billions Bush promised them 2 years later, our borders are not secured, and too many Americans have no health insurance with health care prices soaring each year.

    Just think what 3 billion dollars a week could do to strenghen our country against the real terrorism around the world. But, no, Bush and Cheney had to attack Iraq in a diversion so as the American citizens are not aware of what their real agenda is and has always has been – the control of oil in the Middle East.

    3 billion dollars a day could go for alot of alternative energy research but then, Halliburton and the oil companies would not be able to gouge the American taxpayers.

  5. maidmarion
    Posted August 29, 2007 at 12:59 pm | Permalink

    correction: 3 billiom dollars a week could go for alot of alternative enery resource.

  6. Posted August 29, 2007 at 1:03 pm | Permalink

    Funny how quiet the reich-wing is about throwing tax-payer money into this black hole of war-profiteering.

    Spending tax money on poor children? OUTRAGEOUS SOCIALISM!

    Spending money to make rich corporations richer? Business as usual, nothing to see here . . .

  7. Tom Paine
    Posted August 29, 2007 at 1:10 pm | Permalink

    Its funny all the righties would suddenly become anti war if the government proposed raising taxes to fund the war, vs endless borrowing and the slow strangulation of our economy.

  8. ???
    Posted August 29, 2007 at 1:11 pm | Permalink

    OK online Republicans.

    How about explaining why it’s better to throw billions of dollars away EVERY week on a country that doesn’t give a crap about Democracy?

    Get ready to hear the awesome LOUD silence.

  9. Ed Friedemann
    Posted August 29, 2007 at 1:32 pm | Permalink

    “It would be a lot cheaper to buy the oil!”

    It’s never been about any of the reasons coming out of the White House because the White House won’t tell us about the Zionist-Jew/ Neocon scheme to rule the world using the PNAC plan.

    Until we route AIPAC and the ZIONISTS and PNACers into prison { Gitmo } and level the charges of treason against them for trying to overthrow our constitutional Republic of America , we will not have won the real war which is taking place right under our noses.

    Get busy America!

  10. leftcoaster
    Posted August 29, 2007 at 1:39 pm | Permalink

    The silence from fiscal conservatives is deafening.

    You would think if they really believe in this war, they would prefer to pay for it now. It would be cheaper to raise taxes now to pay for the war, rather than borrow the money and raise taxes later to pay for the war plus interest.

    All told, this war could cost $2 trillion dollars. I say we divide the cost among the 60 million who voted for Bush in 2004. That comes out to $33,000 each that they owe the country.

  11. Posted August 29, 2007 at 1:56 pm | Permalink

    Wow, the entire education budget for America is $55 billion. So Bush could basically double that but we need the money to go kill some Iraqis.

    Hmmm, well educated Americans, dead Iraqis. I guess since I’m not a pro-lifer I’ll have to go with the education.

  12. political_mom
    Posted August 29, 2007 at 2:14 pm | Permalink

    Just say NO.

  13. ???
    Posted August 29, 2007 at 2:27 pm | Permalink

    Funny how our online Republican friends are suddenly so silent when asked to justify or explain the money trail.

  14. Vaughn Tolle
    Posted August 29, 2007 at 2:35 pm | Permalink

    It seems to me that $197 billion in supplementals is just a bit extreme; not that the $$ may not be needed, but surely there could have been a more realistic budgeting for the current fiscal year, given how long the Iraq matter has continued.

  15. SolDevVB
    Posted August 29, 2007 at 2:36 pm | Permalink

    Won’t claim republican until republicans become conservative again, but here’s one bitching to high heaven for lack of oversight. Where have the billions gone? Where have all those weapons gone? Is this the US military (the strongest fist in the world) or the freakin boy scouts. I bet the damn boy scouts would have done a better management job than this.

  16. Gerald
    Posted August 29, 2007 at 2:47 pm | Permalink

    Apparently conservatives are anything but, especially when it comes to fiscal responsibility. This damn war cost too many young lives and the money spent each month is ridicules. Terrorist most certainly have done their job well. They know we spend our days and nights looking over our shoulders and out our windows. The billions could have, should have, been used to fixed our borders, ports and air space. My God George what a quagmire!

  17. SolDevVB
    Posted August 29, 2007 at 2:57 pm | Permalink

    This war would have better been served by NOT going after the governments. Using tactical air strikes. Fill the air with UAVs. Send in strike forces as needed. But this going after governments has been ludicrous and fruitless. It has caused far more harm than good.

    This would have been by FAR cheaper than a full on full out ground war in terms of lives and dollars.

  18. TDT
    Posted August 29, 2007 at 3:40 pm | Permalink

    I was presented with a theory as to why this war was started back in ‘03 that makes sense. It’s not the only reason, but I think it was definitely one of the reasons in GW’s mind, or Rove’s mind…whatever.

    A president has never lost re-election when there is an ongoing war. I think a big reason we are in this war is due to Bush’s political motivations.

  19. brian
    Posted August 29, 2007 at 3:45 pm | Permalink

    And the wealth of the President and VP, coincidentally comes from oil and war money.hmmmm

  20. Ed Friedemann
    Posted August 29, 2007 at 3:49 pm | Permalink

    No, we just tell the Zionist-Jews that if they don’t stop raising hell in the Middle East, causing gasoline prices over 3 dollars a gallon by threatening atomic warfare, we’ll just kick you out of the Middle East and your “new” promised land will be the Outback { a long way away from being able to be a nuisance }.

    With the good Jews running Israel, things would be much much better. Hardly distinguishable from this current gang of grizzly thugs now in control?

    Nope.

  21. Long Time Poster, First Time Lurker
    Posted August 29, 2007 at 3:51 pm | Permalink

    3 Billion Dollars a week could contribute to an alternative energy source to oil. But Exxon-Mobil wouldn’t generate profits.

    3 Billion Dollars a week could assure basic medical care for all Americans, but Dick Cheney’s Halliburton stock might take a hit.

    3 Billion Dollars a week could rebuild and re-establish America’s most important seaport (New Orleans) by Tuesday at noon.

    3 Billion Dollars a week could solve all of Greensburg, Kansas’ and Southeast Kansas’ flood disasters before dawn on Sunday morning… and still fund that Alaskan Bridge-to-Nowhere.

    3 Billion Dollars a week could put doctors for a year in a hundred thousand towns like Hog Bluff, Kansas.

    3 Billion Dollars a week.

    All you “conservatives,” — tell us why 3 Billion Dollars a week to kill Iraqis is a better policy for your tax dollars.

    Show your work..

  22. Ed Friedemann
    Posted August 29, 2007 at 3:51 pm | Permalink

    But the Aborigenes would soon attack us for foisting those troublemakers on them.

  23. brian
    Posted August 29, 2007 at 3:56 pm | Permalink

    But LTP, they are terrorists!The government says they might hurt us. We are at threat level Orange you know!

  24. Ed Friedemann
    Posted August 29, 2007 at 3:58 pm | Permalink

    Millions of Crocodiles eating motorists trapped in rush-hour traffic…crunch, crunch….crunch, crunch…..

  25. XXX
    Posted August 29, 2007 at 4:00 pm | Permalink

    Aw, come on republicans! Let’s hear you whine about “Tax and Spend” Democrats. Attempting to pay as you go was just stupid when you consider the “Borrow and Spend republicans. The Bush administration and it’s mindless lackeys have spent us into a hole we’ll never get out of.

    I’ll make a prediction here, and you can remember XXX said it. Because of this war and republican fiscal irresponsibility, we’re going to go the same way the Soviets did. And you can blame it squarely on republican greed.

  26. Ed Friedemann
    Posted August 29, 2007 at 4:04 pm | Permalink

    crunch, crunch….crunch, crunch

  27. The Phantom
    Posted August 29, 2007 at 4:22 pm | Permalink

    Wonder how many of those people disrobing in dillons were bush backers with an acute terrorist fear?The perp. was wise in targeting a small town in a Red State!

  28. The Phantom
    Posted August 29, 2007 at 4:26 pm | Permalink

    Send the troops a useful non-lethal weapon, naw can’t afford that, and anyway Hal. doesn’t make it!AP IMPACT: a Beam Weapon for Military?Wednesday August 29, 2:11 pm ETBy Richard Lardner, Associated Press WriterAP IMPACT: Commanders in Iraq Request Energy Beam Weapon; Concern It Could Be Seen As Torture

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Saddam Hussein had been gone just a few weeks, and U.S. forces in Fallujah, west of Baghdad, were already being called unwelcome invaders. One of the first big anti-American protests of the war escalated into shootouts that left 18 Iraqis dead and 78 wounded.ADVERTISEMENTIt would be a familiar scene in Iraq’s next few years: Crowds gather, insurgents mingle with civilians. Troops open fire, and innocents die.

    All the while, according to internal military correspondence obtained by The Associated Press, U.S. commanders were telling Washington that many civilian casualties could be avoided by using a new non-lethal weapon developed over the past decade.

    Military leaders repeatedly and urgently requested — and were denied — the device, which uses energy beams instead of bullets and lets soldiers break up unruly crowds without firing a shot.

    It’s a ray gun that neither kills nor maims, but the Pentagon has refused to deploy it out of concern that the weapon itself might be seen as a torture device.

    Perched on a Humvee or a flatbed truck, the Active Denial System gives people hit by the invisible beam the sense that their skin is on fire. They move out of the way quickly and without injury.

    On April 30, 2003, two days after the first Fallujah incident, Gene McCall, then the top scientist at Air Force Space Command in Colorado, typed out a two-sentence e-mail to Gen. Richard Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

    “I am convinced that the tragedy at Fallujah would not have occurred if an Active Denial System had been there,” McCall told Myers, according to the e-mail obtained by AP. The system should become “an immediate priority,” McCall said.

    Myers referred McCall’s message to his staff, according to the e-mail chain.

    McCall, who retired from government in November 2003, remains convinced the system would have saved lives in Iraq.

    “How this has been handled is kind of a national scandal,” McCall said by telephone from his home in Florida.

    A few months after McCall’s message, in August 2003, Richard Natonski, a Marine Corps brigadier general who had just returned from Iraq, filed an “urgent” request with officials in Washington for the energy-beam device.

    The device would minimize what Natonski described as the “CNN Effect” — the instantaneous relay of images depicting U.S. troops as aggressors.

    A year later, Natonski, by then promoted to major general, again asked for the system, saying a compact and mobile version was “urgently needed,” particularly in urban settings.

    Natonski, now a three-star general, is the Marine Corps’ deputy commandant for plans, policies and operations. He did not respond to an interview request.

    In October 2004, the commander of the 2nd Marine Expeditionary Force “enthusiastically” endorsed Natonski’s request. Lt. Gen. James Amos said it was “critical” for Marines in Iraq to have the system.

    Senior officers in Iraq have continued to make the case. One December 2006 request noted that as U.S. forces are drawn down, the non-lethal weapon “will provide excellent means for economy of force.”

    The main reason the tool has been missing in action is public perception. With memories of the Abu Ghraib prison scandal still fresh, the Pentagon is reluctant to give troops a space-age device that could be misconstrued as a torture machine.

    “We want to just make sure that all the conditions are right, so when it is able to be deployed the system performs as predicted — that there isn’t any negative fallout,” said Col. Kirk Hymes, head of the Defense Department’s Joint Non-Lethal Weapons Directorate.

    Reviews by military lawyers concluded it is a lawful weapon under current rules governing the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan, according to a Nov. 15 document prepared by Marine Corps officials in western Iraq.

    Private organizations remain concerned, however, because documentation that supports the testing and legal reviews is classified. There’s no way to independently verify the Pentagon’s claims, said Stephen Goose of Human Rights Watch in Washington.

    “We think that any time you have an emerging technology that’s based on novel physical principles, that this deserves the highest level of scrutiny,” Goose said. “And we really haven’t had that.”

    Another issue for the weapon is cost.

    The Pentagon has spent $62 million developing and testing the system over the past decade, a scant amount compared to other high-profile, multibillion-dollar military programs.

    Still, officials say the technology is too expensive, although they won’t say what it costs to build. They cite engineering challenges as another obstacle, although one U.S. defense contractor says it has a model ready for production.

    For now, there’s no firm schedule for when the system might be made and delivered to troops.

    Commanders in Iraq say the go-slow approach has had devastating consequences.

    There’s no way to calculate how many civilian deaths could have been avoided had the energy beam been available in Iraq. The bulk of the civilian casualties are due to sectarian warfare.

    According to AP statistics, more than 27,400 Iraqi civilians have been killed and more than 31,000 wounded in war-related violence just since the new government took office in April 2005.

    The Active Denial System is a directed-energy device, although it is not a laser or a microwave. It uses a large, dish-shaped antenna and a long, V-shaped arm to send an invisible beam of waves to a target as far away as 500 yards.

    With the unit mounted on the back of a vehicle, U.S. troops can operate a safe distance from rocks, Molotov cocktails and small-arms fire.

    The beam penetrates the skin slightly, just enough to cause intense pain. The beam goes through clothing as well as windows, but can be blocked by thicker materials, such as metal or concrete.

    The system was developed by the Air Force Research Laboratory in New Mexico. During more than 12 years of testing, only two injuries requiring medical attention have been reported; both were second-degree burns, according to the Joint Non-Lethal Weapons Directorate Web site.

    Prototype units have been assembled by the military, the most promising being a larger model that sits on the back of a flatbed truck. This single unit, known as System 2, could be sent to Iraq as early as next year, according to Hymes of the Joint Non-Lethal Weapons Directorate.

    Hymes’ office, which nurtures promising technologies that can be used by the military branches, plans to spend $9 million over the next two years on the effort.

    Money for additional systems isn’t likely to be available until 2010, when an Air Force command in Massachusetts is expected to take control of the program, he said.

    Recognizing the potential market, defense contractor Raytheon has invested its own money to build a version that the company calls “Silent Guardian.” Although Hymes said the Raytheon product “is not ready yet,” company representatives say it is.

    Mike Booen, Raytheon’s vice president for directed energy programs, said the company has produced one system that’s immediately available.

    “We have the capacity to build additional systems as needed,” he said.

    Raytheon has not sold any Silent Guardians to U.S. or foreign customers, and Booen would not discuss the product’s price.

    American commanders in Iraq already have asked to buy Raytheon’s device.

    A Dec. 1, 2006, urgent request signed by Marine Corps Maj. Gen. Robert Neller sought eight Silent Guardians.

    Neller, then the deputy commander of the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force in Iraq, called the lack of such a non-lethal weapon a “chronic deficiency” that “will continue to harm” efforts to resolve showdowns with as little firepower as possible.

    Other requests from officers in Iraq asked for the system as part of a broader weapons package on wheels, one that could shoot bullets as well as the non-lethal beam.

    Such a versatile system would let troops deal with “increasingly complex operational environments where combatants are routinely intermixed with noncombatants,” Army Brig. Gen. James Huggins said in an April 2005 memo to Pentagon officials.

    Huggins, then chief of staff of the Multi-National Force in Iraq and now deputy commander of the 3rd Infantry Division, wanted 14 vehicles for missions ranging from raids to convoy escorts.

    U.S. Central Command, which oversees military operations in Iraq from its base in Tampa, Fla., backed the request, saying it was “critical to build upon our success in the counterinsurgency battle,” according to its memo to the Pentagon.

    The vehicles were not delivered, however. Robert Buhrkuhl, a senior Pentagon acquisition official, said during congressional testimony in January that combining the various fixtures on a single vehicle presented major technical challenges.

    In an interview, Franz Gayl, who was Neller’s science adviser until the unit returned in February, blamed an entrenched, “risk-averse” military acquisition system for moving too slowly.

    Gayl calls the system a “disruptive innovation” — an unconventional piece of equipment that breaks new ground and therefore is viewed skeptically by the offices that buy combat gear.

    If the energy-beam weapon had been fielded when U.S. forces invaded Iraq, “many innocent Iraqi lives would have been spared,” Gayl said.

  29. Vaughn Tolle
    Posted August 29, 2007 at 4:33 pm | Permalink

    Hey, Phantom, from media reports, the scam isn’t or wasn’t limited to Hutchinson, Kansas. Seems I recall 12 states mentioned somewhere.

  30. exile
    Posted August 29, 2007 at 5:04 pm | Permalink

    republicians have been told over and over that any help for kids, poor people, affordable housing, food stamps, college education costs, and universal health care is socialism.

    funny how a lot of very rich republicians have convinced middle class and sometimes even poor people that it’s good to divide our country.

    it’s you against them, even when them is really you.

    that’s why so many lower middle class people comment here that those “libs” or “dems” want to ruin their country.

    you reap what you sow.spending your time listening to bile o’reilly and rush to find out what you should think is a very sad way to live.

    they love to say… “why do those libs hate our country.”

    in reality bile and rush are teaching you to hate people.

    you’re sad as a human being.and, your class warfare has hurt our country more than any terriost attack.

  31. Posted August 29, 2007 at 5:06 pm | Permalink

    I just wonder what the ratio of the 3 billion is allocated for new troop recruitment vs returning veterans services.

  32. Scott
    Posted August 29, 2007 at 5:34 pm | Permalink

    No war is ever too expensive or social program cheap enough for the GOP. They will happily waste billions of tax dollars causing death and destruction in other countries, but complain if a single dollar is spent housing, feeding or treating a sick American.

  33. GOP SUCKS
    Posted August 29, 2007 at 5:35 pm | Permalink

    “surely there could have been a more realistic budgeting for the current fiscal year, given how long the Iraq matter has continued.”

    But that would contradict “weeks, maybe months. Not years”

  34. Rox
    Posted August 29, 2007 at 5:38 pm | Permalink

    Maybe we need to use that new weapon along the border of our own country.

  35. Kev
    Posted August 29, 2007 at 5:43 pm | Permalink

    The Democrats should show some fuggin backbone and tell him not only NO but HELL NO to any additional money.

  36. brian
    Posted August 29, 2007 at 5:44 pm | Permalink

    Kev,They will be to busy pandering to do that.

  37. Ed Friedemann
    Posted August 29, 2007 at 5:49 pm | Permalink

    crunch crunch….

  38. Ed Friedemann
    Posted August 29, 2007 at 5:54 pm | Permalink

    Burp…. burp….

  39. writerdog
    Posted August 29, 2007 at 5:54 pm | Permalink

    Ok you ask to hear from someone that believes in fiscal conservatism, here you go. Though we are in the tar baby and de-funding the Iraq occupation may not be the answer. I do say “NO” to the request for additional funding above the amount need to supply the current troop level. To me the old quote comes to mind, “there is something rotten in Denmark!. G.W. saying he need more money than already set sounds to me as if he has plans that include other then his intended stated reason. We should be at a point where the occupation is costing less not more.

    If Bush truly wanted to save his administrations place in history other then as the most destructive of all Presidencies. He has missed the mark when New Orleans remains here in the home land and yet still is lacking. He can not save this country’s respect and believability in the world, but he could have at least save the respect and believability within the United States at least some with the Gulf coast.

    As for as the point of view of a fiscal conservative on the Bush administration. His is no Republican when it comes to the way he wants to throw money at the problem. Yet leaves lacking what he should be spending money on. He maybe a big business Republican (though he is selective as to which big businesses he is for) but he is more a Big government Neo-Con. Ok I left a little Federalist come out too!

  40. Kev
    Posted August 29, 2007 at 6:15 pm | Permalink

    I thought the GOP was the “party of fiscal responsibilty”. Who is gonna pay this bill?

  41. Posted August 29, 2007 at 6:20 pm | Permalink

    “I thought the GOP was the ‘party of fiscal responsibilty’.

    Hah! That hasn’t been true in 30years, if ever! It was, after all, one Ronald Wilson Reagan who insisted on tripling the national debt in the 80’s.

    “Who is gonna pay this bill?”

    Us, our children, our grandchildren. . . .

  42. Posted August 29, 2007 at 6:24 pm | Permalink

    P.S. Ed’s reminders about PNAC and AIPAC are worth keeping in mind–if archconservative Zionists didn’t inordinately influence US policy, we might not be in Iraq in the first place.

  43. Posted August 29, 2007 at 6:25 pm | Permalink

    ‘But that would contradict “weeks, maybe months. Not years” ‘

    For those who don’t remember the quote, Donald Rumsfeld told us that before the war.

  44. The Phantom
    Posted August 29, 2007 at 7:03 pm | Permalink

    There’s those damn weapons.Pentagon probes missing weapons and contract fraud By Kristin Roberts1 hour, 21 minutes ago

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The Pentagon’s independent watchdog has launched a probe into the military’s inability to account for weapons in Iraq after reports that Kurdish militants were using U.S. arms to attack Turkey, the Defense Department said on Wednesday.

    ADVERTISEMENTPentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell said the department’s inspector general will go to Iraq next week with an 18-member assessment team to investigate the problem.

    “Since January, the inspector general’s office has been thoroughly investigating reports of unaccounted-for weapons as well as allegations of arms ending up in the wrong hands,” Morrell said.

    “Secretary Gates, who since May has twice received lengthy briefings on the progress of the probe, is deeply troubled by the reports and the allegations.”

    Turkey, an important ally for Washington in the Muslim world, has repeatedly said the U.S. government has not done enough to clamp down on Kurdish militants based in northern Iraq. In July, Turkey’s ambassador said Kurdish leaders were diverting weapons meant for local Iraqi security forces to the outlawed Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) militants.

    Morrell said he did not know if evidence existed to show U.S. weapons were being used by insurgents in Iraq.

    “It is unclear, and that’s why there’s an investigation taking place.”

    CONTRACTING PROBES

    Separately, the Army has launched two investigations into possible fraud involving thousands of contracts for services in Iraq and Kuwait after 20 civilian and military Army employees were indicted on charges that included bribery.

    The scope of the fraud remains unknown, but Army Secretary Pete Geren called the problem significant.

    More than 18,000 contracts valued at about $3 billion have been awarded by the Army to support the Iraq war since 2003. As of August 28, there were 76 ongoing criminal investigations involving possible contract fraud, the Army said.

    A U.S. Army major, his wife and sister were indicted this month in a suspected scheme to accept $9.6 million in exchange for contracts for bottled water and other goods and services for troops in Kuwait and Iraq.

    An Army captain also has been charged with accepting a $50,000 bribe to steer military contracts in Iraq, according to prosecutors.

    “The reports suggest that we’ve got serious issues in this area, particularly coming out of the Kuwait contracting community,” Geren told reporters. “I don’t know how to describe the scale, but it’s significant.”

    The first Army investigation will examine the overall contracting organization, which Army officials say lacks the resources needed to handle the sharp rise in contracts following the start of the Iraq war. A commission appointed to investigate the operation will deliver a report in 45 days.

    The Army also charged a new task force with examining all 18,000 contracts awarded by its contracting office in Kuwait. Most of those covered support services at Army facilities in Kuwait, like laundry and dining services.

  45. Posted August 29, 2007 at 7:09 pm | Permalink

    Is disgusting when, this administration tries to vilify the citizens that speak out against a lot of this nonsense. What people don’t even realize is the size of government has grown exponentially since Bush has been in office. Where is your conservative government, the government is more powerful than it has ever been, and the people more powerless. Wire tapping, executive privileges, the list goes on, anyone care to expand?

  46. Posted August 29, 2007 at 7:12 pm | Permalink

    Anyone else think having the statement, In God We Trust printed on all of our monetary denominations is disrespectful to God. And goes against the separation of Church and State. We know who the Republicans God is, its Money.

  47. Repuke
    Posted August 29, 2007 at 8:23 pm | Permalink

    In a speech yesterday to the convention of the American Legion in Reno, Nev., Bush gave an optimistic assessment of recent events in the war, now in its fifth year. “There are unmistakable signs that our strategy is achieving the objectives we set out,” he said. “The momentum is now on our side.”

    Well since you put it that way!!

    It sounds so much better than “in the last throes”, “mission accomplished”

    He keeps spouting the same B.S., you would think the ones defending himwould get tried of been made a fool. He fooled you once shame on him,Fooling you every time, shame on you.

  48. The Phantom
    Posted August 29, 2007 at 8:36 pm | Permalink

    Sounds like we may have “turned a corner”!

  49. Ed Friedemann
    Posted August 29, 2007 at 8:46 pm | Permalink

    Ed: “It’s never been about any of the reasons coming out of the White House because the White House won’t tell us about the Zionist-Jew/ Neocon scheme to rule the world using the PNAC plan.

    Until we route AIPAC and the ZIONISTS and PNACers into prison { Gitmo } and level the charges of treason against them for trying to overthrow our constitutional Republic of America , we will not have won the real war which is taking place right under our noses.

    Get busy America!”

    Ed: The PNACers are having a meeting in a secret AIPAC retreat where they will finalize plans to takeover the United States of America in October.

    The “Patriot Act” has shredded the Constitution and HLS at 180.000 strong is the new Gestapo which will change local police into occupational forces.

    Bush is not going to give-up on Iraq, nor the conquest of the United States.

    You may begin to sense that by now.

    Nobody who has “left” the administration has “gone” very far.

    There will only be a “show-election” in 2008 as both Hillary and Giuliani are control from Tel Aviv.

  50. earl
    Posted August 29, 2007 at 9:14 pm | Permalink

    i pledge allegiance to the united snakes of haliburton and to the arms mecrhants for which it stands one nation under oil for a select few.

  51. Posted August 29, 2007 at 9:19 pm | Permalink

    Anyone notice, how all the belly aching right wingers, have left this discussion alone. I guess they have selective intelligence, they learn only what they want to, and hear only what they want to hear.

    pretty sad. lol

  52. Posted August 29, 2007 at 9:20 pm | Permalink

    Earl, that was awesome. Might as well change our pledge to that.

  53. Ed Friedemann
    Posted August 29, 2007 at 10:11 pm | Permalink

    We elected democrats to bring our troops home.

    Not only did they not bring the troops home, but also gave that G-D Bush more troops and more money, when they could have just held their ground and done what they were elected to do.

    Vote: NO!……on the money

    Vote NO!…….on the extra troops, which many have already been killed.

    What the hell is wrong with these people?

    Instead, they kissed the Zionist’s asses and did what they wanted.

  54. Posted August 29, 2007 at 10:11 pm | Permalink

    Naw, we didn’t post on this topic because we would hate to get in between the Democratic Party and their victimhood and conspiracy yammering.

  55. The Phantom
    Posted August 29, 2007 at 10:48 pm | Permalink

    RESUME:

    GEORGE W. BUSH1600 Pennsylvania AvenueWashington, DC 20520

    ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS PRESIDENT:

    - I am the first President in U.S. history to enter office with a criminal record.

    - I invaded and occupied two countries at a continuing cost of over one billion dollars per week.

    - I shattered the record for the largest annual deficit in U.S. history.

    - I set an economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12-month period.

    - I set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12-month period.

    - I’m proud that the members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in U.S. history. My “poorest millionaire,” Condoleeza Rice, has a Chevron oil tanker named after her.

    - I set the record for most campaign fund-raising trips by a U.S. President.

    - I am the all-time U.S. and world record-holder for receiving the most corporate campaign donations.

    - My largest lifetime campaign contributor, and one of my best friends, Kenneth Lay, presided over the largest corporate bankruptcy fraud in U.S. History, Enron.

    - My political party used Enron private jets and corporate attorneys to assure my success with the U.S. Supreme Court during my election decision.

    - I have protected my friends at Enron and Halliburton against investigation or prosecution. More time and money was spent investigating the Monica Lewinsky affair than has been spent investigating one of the biggest corporate rip-offs in history. I presided over the biggest energy crisis in U.S. history and refused to intervene when corruption involving the oil industry was revealed.

    - I changed the U.S. policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts.

    - I appointed more convicted criminals to administration than any President in U.S. history.

    - I created the Ministry of Homeland Security, the largest bureaucracy in the history of the United States government.

    - I’ve broken more international treaties than any President in U.S. history.

    - I am the first President in U.S. history to have the United Nations remove the U.S. from the Human Rights Commission.

    - I withdrew the U.S. from the World Court of Law.

    - I refused to allow inspectors access to U.S. “prisoners of war” detainees and thereby have refused to abide by the Geneva Convention.

    - I am the first President in history to refuse United Nations election inspectors (during the 2002 U.S. election).

    - I set the record for fewest numbers of press conferences of any President since the advent of television.

    - I set the all-time record for most days on vacation in any one-year period.

    - I garnered the most sympathy ever for the U.S. after the World Trade Center attacks and less than a year later made the U.S. the most hated country in the world, the largest failure of diplomacy in world history.

    - I have set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously protest me in public venues (15 million people), shattering the record for protests against any person in the history of mankind.

    - I am the first President in U.S. history to order an unprovoked, pre-emptive attack and the military occupation of a sovereign nation. I did so against the will of the United Nations, the majority of U.S. citizens, and the world community.

    - I have cut health care benefits for war veterans and support a cut in duty benefits for active duty troops and their families in wartime.

    - In my State of the Union Address, I lied about our reasons for attacking Iraq and then blamed the lies on our British friends.

    - I am the first President in history to have a majority of Europeans (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and security.

    - I am supporting development of a nuclear “Tactical Bunker Buster,” a WMD.

    - I have so far failed to fulfill my pledge to bring Osama Bin Laden to justice.

    RECORDS AND REFERENCES:

    -All records of my tenure as governor of Texas are now in my father’s library, sealed and unavailable for public view.

    - All records of SEC investigations into my insider trading and my bankrupt companies are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.

    - All records or minutes from meetings that I, or my Vice-President, attended regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public review.

  56. Posted August 29, 2007 at 10:53 pm | Permalink

    Name your sources – The Phantom.

  57. Ed Friedemann
    Posted August 29, 2007 at 11:55 pm | Permalink

    TP

    Notice how they expect to be able to order you to work, in order to satisfy the obvious?

    I hope what they “have” isn’t contagious.

  58. Nathan
    Posted August 29, 2007 at 11:56 pm | Permalink

    I’m no expert on Resumes, but I would think you would keep your accomplishments narrowed down to a few key ones to keep the interest of the reader…

  59. Posted August 30, 2007 at 12:03 am | Permalink

    “ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS PRESIDENT:…- I invaded and occupied two countries at a continuing cost of over one billion dollars per week.”

    Correction: War price tag now tops $3 billion a week.

  60. Ed Friedemann
    Posted August 30, 2007 at 12:08 am | Permalink

    “resume (n.)”

    1804, “a summary,” from Fr. résumé, noun use of pp. of M.Fr. resumer “to sum up,” from L. resumere (see resume (v.)). Meaning “biographical summary of a person’s career” is 1940s.”

  61. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted August 30, 2007 at 8:51 am | Permalink

    So… where ARE the war mongers on this thread? Too hard to argue with the facts? Or just know when you are beaten from the start?

  62. maidmarion
    Posted August 30, 2007 at 6:26 pm | Permalink

    Naw, we didn’t post on this topic because we would hate to get in between the Democratic Party and their victimhood and conspiracy yammering.

    Posted by: Kansas

    If anyone has perfected the art of victimhood it is the Christian Right always yelling they are being persecuted. Talk about yammering.