Recent history has taught Wichita to be cautious about counting on more jobs from an Air Force refueling tanker deal. Still, Friday’s forecast by Jim Albaugh, Boeing Integrated Defense Systems president and chief executive, that a Boeing tanker contract could mean “well in excess of several thousand” jobs rightly raises hopes in Wichita, where both Boeing Wichita and Spirit AeroSystems likely would see tanker work. With Boeing having delivered nearly 2,000 tankers over its 75-year history, it’s also hard to argue with Rep. Todd Tiahrt, R-Goddard, against a U.S. deal with Europe-based Airbus. “Should we rely on a foreign rookie? No,” he said. “You go with the best.”
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I fail to perceive what is so brilliant or flattering about Tiahrt’s comment. Isn’t it a no-brainer that he should support a possible tanker contract for Boeing and Spirit? I think the more appropriate question would be why has it taken soooo long for Boeing to be given another shot at this contract? If Tiahrt had any real sway up there, this contract would have been brought home years ago.
Perhaps the Congressman will run another TV commercial that barks up all of the jobs he brought to Wichita. If memory serves, the old Boeing tanker deal was used in a campaign ad about five years ago. Of course, one great thing about never actually delivering the jobs is you can go on milking it in your advertisements. What brand of shop goggles will be used this time around? And will the shirt sleeves be all rolled up? How about a lunch bucket and an apple?
For background music, I recommend the theme song from “Rocky.”
John McCain is a HUGE reason this deal has taken so long.That man developed a personal vendetta against Boeing.Boeing management was also a factor here. One of their top people even went to jail, if memory serves.Tiahrt had no control over those issues.Congressman Tiahrt has done the best that could be expected, in a tough situation!
I recall something similar, Econ. This misconduct on the part of Boeing management was a part of the Congressional action on the original tanker deal. Whether Senator McCain has a personal vendetta against Boeing is without my knowledge, but again, I recall he was a member of the spearhead in Congress for the action that killed the original deal (for good reason, it seems to me).
Tiahrt has supported many jobs going overseas so that would be consistent. Has Tiahrt once advanced legislation that would end the tax break for corporations that move their factories to China? Nope.
It not like this all matters since Tiahrt thinks Representatives should be held to a 12 year term limit. Tiahrt doesn’t want to prove himself a hypocrite does he?
DougTiahrt on term limits: He would support a change in the law that would require term limits.Without such a limit, seniority is everything and it would punish Kansas, unfairly, if only Kansas representatives enforced “term limits” on themselves.
On “outsourcing jobs to China” or “tax breaks” for outsourcing jobs:
You do NOT know what you are talking about. Please reference the law or statute that specifically encourages the “outsourcing of jobs.”
Moreover, corporations are taxed on NET profits. International tax policy is a matter of international treaty obligations. No current candidate for President, in either party supports the repeal of any tax law that would allow for the deduction of legitimate business expenses overseas.Any such law would cause a global trade war.Perhaps, even, a REAL war!Japan became angry with the United States over TRADE policy, prior to WW2.
Again, you do NOT know what you are talking about.
Oh so Tiahrt needs a law to force himself to stay to term limits. Apparently it’s quite impossible for him to resign. I wasn’t aware of that, thanks for setting me straight oftenwrongEcon.
However, here’s the related bills that you requested about tax breaks for corporations that move their jobs overseas. Some of these are votes on bills that would have revoked the tax breaks.S1637, 5/5/04, #82SConRes18, 3/17/05, #63SConRes95, #41, 3/11/04
But clearly these don’t exist because I don’t know what I’m talking about. Thanks for clearing that up. So I’m sure you’ll admit complete ignorance about the subject in the future.
Nope, we need do put this into the same ash heap as the Casino. Get all this nonsense out of this town.
We need a Terry Schiavo museum instead.
The Bank of America will only support a Schiavo museum. And then we want a tax cut or we will leave town.
It only took Tanker Todd six years to finally live up to his name, and is a bit disconserting that several Boeing execs went to jail over this deal. And isn’t it possible that the tanker deal could go to Northrup Grumman
DougYou are the one who is being evasive and dishonest here.
I state, again, that any law that would NOT allow corporations to deduct legitimate expenses, for their foreign operations, would have drastic consequences.
It could even cause a real, shooting war!
Throughout history, shooting wars often develop from trade wars.
No, you do NOT know what you are talking about.
Anyone can draft a bill that violates tax treaty obligations. That does not mean the bill will pass. That does not mean that the President will sign it. That does not mean that the SCOTUS will not overturn the law as a violation of treay obligations.
High taxes outsource jobs. Europe actually taxes corporations LESS than the United States.
Heavy regulations outsource jobs.
Litigation outsources jobs.
Liberals do not want people, or businesses, to “vote with their feet” — liberals do not want to compete!
As usual oftenwrongecon you don’t know what you are talking about. If a corporation pays only 9% tax on profits overseas and 15% of profits in America then the corporation just need to fudge the numbers. They can report a loss in America while selling a laptop in China for $50,000. That’s what is being done so corporations can reduce their taxes. Also nice that you completely ignored the facts on the bills you wanted me to reference. That’s your style, just ignore the facts then claim anyone who has them is incompetent. You just don’t know what you are talking about.
Whom is Tiaht calling a rookie? Airbus already produces tankers that are being used by Australia, Canada, the UK and Spain. The Airbus A330 tanker will carry 20% more fuel then the Boeing 767, more cargo and passengers. The Boeing airframe is a 35-year-old design using old technology to assemble bent sheet metal parts. The Airbus plane uses a mixture of composite materials and machined aluminium for lighter weight and better easier maintenance. The Airbus A330 is more fuel efficient, quieter and will out performs the 767. 40% of the Airbus is made in the US and the final assembly will be done in the Mobile. Major parts of the 767 is made in Japan. To dismiss Airbus as a rookie is not in the best interest of the tax payers or Air Force.
“It only took Tanker Todd six years to finally live up to his name”
Actually it has been a lot more than 6 years and he STILL has not delivered. Even if Tankerless Todd’s former employer gets the contract there is no guarantee that Wichita will get the jobs. Remember, Boeing is outsourcing a lot more now. I suspect that we will get AT MOST only a small fraction of Todd’s campaign promises.