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		<title>By: Eskimosik</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/08/open-thread-85/#comment-208217</link>
		<dc:creator>Eskimosik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi
What do you think about this? When it happens?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi<br />
What do you think about this? When it happens?</p>
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		<title>By: Spooffvox</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/08/open-thread-85/#comment-208216</link>
		<dc:creator>Spooffvox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 14:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Gul Dukat</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/08/open-thread-85/#comment-208215</link>
		<dc:creator>Gul Dukat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 21:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People,

The constitution does not prohibit law abiding Americans from owning any type of weapon. Therefore, I should be able to own a flamethrower, if I so desire.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People,</p>
<p>The constitution does not prohibit law abiding Americans from owning any type of weapon. Therefore, I should be able to own a flamethrower, if I so desire.</p>
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		<title>By: littlejohn</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/08/open-thread-85/#comment-208214</link>
		<dc:creator>littlejohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 14:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, the sale of automatic weapons is skyrocketing. You can confirm this at any gun store. Ask them WHY EVERYONE IS HURRYING TO BUY THESE GUNS?

Posted by: NRA all the way &#124; August 05, 2007 at 11:23 PM

You are full of bs. You have to have a special liscence or permit for automatic weapons. Everyone is not applying for a class 5 liscence. Every gun shop doesn;t sell automatic weapons. BS
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, the sale of automatic weapons is skyrocketing. You can confirm this at any gun store. Ask them WHY EVERYONE IS HURRYING TO BUY THESE GUNS?</p>
<p>Posted by: NRA all the way | August 05, 2007 at 11:23 PM</p>
<p>You are full of bs. You have to have a special liscence or permit for automatic weapons. Everyone is not applying for a class 5 liscence. Every gun shop doesn;t sell automatic weapons. BS</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Friedemann</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/08/open-thread-85/#comment-208213</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Friedemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 08:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jep

You need to look a the nationwide crimes stats, as if everybody goes where it&#039;s safe, it won&#039;t be safe &quot;there&quot; any longer.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jep</p>
<p>You need to look a the nationwide crimes stats, as if everybody goes where it&#8217;s safe, it won&#8217;t be safe &#8220;there&#8221; any longer.</p>
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		<title>By: JEP</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/08/open-thread-85/#comment-208212</link>
		<dc:creator>JEP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 08:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You&#039;re talking as though &quot;home invasions&quot; and &quot;car-jacking&quot; don&#039;t happen, when they are a daily occurrence in the Dallas Ft Worth area.&quot;

And where on Earth did I say that?

Just shows you come from a place of instant paranoia, if you perceived my post that way.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You&#8217;re talking as though &#8220;home invasions&#8221; and &#8220;car-jacking&#8221; don&#8217;t happen, when they are a daily occurrence in the Dallas Ft Worth area.&#8221;</p>
<p>And where on Earth did I say that?</p>
<p>Just shows you come from a place of instant paranoia, if you perceived my post that way.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Friedemann</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/08/open-thread-85/#comment-208211</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Friedemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 07:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jep

&quot;Now it has been perverted into this strange version, where people keep guns because they are afraid of their neighbors.&quot;

We&#039;re not concerned about our neighbors, just roving pairs of robbers. Each pair is making a dozen hits a day.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jep</p>
<p>&#8220;Now it has been perverted into this strange version, where people keep guns because they are afraid of their neighbors.&#8221;</p>
<p>We&#8217;re not concerned about our neighbors, just roving pairs of robbers. Each pair is making a dozen hits a day.</p>
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		<title>By: JEP</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/08/open-thread-85/#comment-208210</link>
		<dc:creator>JEP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 07:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You&#039;re talking as though &quot;home invasions&quot; and &quot;car-jacking&quot; don&#039;t happen, when they are a daily occurrence in the Dallas Ft Worth area.&quot;

Then MOVE somewhere you feel safe.

Would you really choose to raise a family in a place where they faced that kind of danger on a daily basis?

What could possibly be worth it, &quot;the dity life&quot; or &quot;a great job?&quot;

People who willingly place themselves and their loved-ones in the middle of the highest odds for gun violence are a big part of the problem.

You need to see the movie &quot;crash.&quot;

I realize violence can happen anywhere, but you yourself just identified that you KNOW it is dangerous.

Change your lifestyle, if it is so dangerous you need to carry a gun everywhere.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You&#8217;re talking as though &#8220;home invasions&#8221; and &#8220;car-jacking&#8221; don&#8217;t happen, when they are a daily occurrence in the Dallas Ft Worth area.&#8221;</p>
<p>Then MOVE somewhere you feel safe.</p>
<p>Would you really choose to raise a family in a place where they faced that kind of danger on a daily basis?</p>
<p>What could possibly be worth it, &#8220;the dity life&#8221; or &#8220;a great job?&#8221;</p>
<p>People who willingly place themselves and their loved-ones in the middle of the highest odds for gun violence are a big part of the problem.</p>
<p>You need to see the movie &#8220;crash.&#8221;</p>
<p>I realize violence can happen anywhere, but you yourself just identified that you KNOW it is dangerous.</p>
<p>Change your lifestyle, if it is so dangerous you need to carry a gun everywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: JEP</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/08/open-thread-85/#comment-208209</link>
		<dc:creator>JEP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 07:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;gun-nuts&quot; is their &quot;battle flag, not any group of people who actually exist.

Did you read my post saying I once ran a guide service for hunters?

If you think there is not a class of &quot;gun nuts&quot; floating around out there in redneckland and down in the hood, you are seriously naive...

Commies?  Sheesh, now we got the cold-war all over again...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;gun-nuts&#8221; is their &#8220;battle flag, not any group of people who actually exist.</p>
<p>Did you read my post saying I once ran a guide service for hunters?</p>
<p>If you think there is not a class of &#8220;gun nuts&#8221; floating around out there in redneckland and down in the hood, you are seriously naive&#8230;</p>
<p>Commies?  Sheesh, now we got the cold-war all over again&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Friedemann</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/08/open-thread-85/#comment-208208</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Friedemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 07:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jep

You&#039;re talking as though &quot;home invasions&quot; and &quot;car-jacking&quot; don&#039;t happen, when they are a daily occurrence in the Dallas Ft Worth area.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jep</p>
<p>You&#8217;re talking as though &#8220;home invasions&#8221; and &#8220;car-jacking&#8221; don&#8217;t happen, when they are a daily occurrence in the Dallas Ft Worth area.</p>
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		<title>By: JEP</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/08/open-thread-85/#comment-208207</link>
		<dc:creator>JEP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 07:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The Defense Department cannot account for 190,000 weapons, including more than 110,000 AK-47 rifles, issued to Iraqi security forces, a new report by government investigators says.&quot;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/06/world/middleeast/06iraq-002.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/06/world/middleeast/06iraq-002.html&lt;/a&gt;

Hmmm, no wonder they ar so cheap and plentiful...

110,000?  Gosh, that sounds like enough for AN ARMY!

BRING OUR SOLDIERS HOME, NOW!!!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Defense Department cannot account for 190,000 weapons, including more than 110,000 AK-47 rifles, issued to Iraqi security forces, a new report by government investigators says.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/06/world/middleeast/06iraq-002.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/06/world/middleeast/06iraq-002.html</a></p>
<p>Hmmm, no wonder they ar so cheap and plentiful&#8230;</p>
<p>110,000?  Gosh, that sounds like enough for AN ARMY!</p>
<p>BRING OUR SOLDIERS HOME, NOW!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Friedemann</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/08/open-thread-85/#comment-208206</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Friedemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 07:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Communists make-up the far left in politics and their term &quot;gun-nuts&quot; is their &quot;battle flag, not any group of people who actually exist.

A gun owner is a Communist&#039;s greatest fear.

True that Fascists occupy the far-right in politics, but, again, not in great enough numbers to matter.

Guns in New York City threaten Giuliani drug-addicts customers,  that&#039;s why Mr, Getz got the axe.

&quot;All&quot; is not always as it seems&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Communists make-up the far left in politics and their term &#8220;gun-nuts&#8221; is their &#8220;battle flag, not any group of people who actually exist.</p>
<p>A gun owner is a Communist&#8217;s greatest fear.</p>
<p>True that Fascists occupy the far-right in politics, but, again, not in great enough numbers to matter.</p>
<p>Guns in New York City threaten Giuliani drug-addicts customers,  that&#8217;s why Mr, Getz got the axe.</p>
<p>&#8220;All&#8221; is not always as it seems&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: JEP</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/08/open-thread-85/#comment-208205</link>
		<dc:creator>JEP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 07:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is interesting that the right to keep and bear arms was primarily meant as protection against the minions of King George...

My ancestors who fought in the Revolution didn&#039;t fear their neighbors, the feared their government.

Which is why, when the 2nd Amendment was written, so free people could protect themsleves from oppression, not each other.

Now it has been perverted into this strange version, where people keep guns because they are afraid of their neighbors. And the right to keep those arms is defended primarily by gun manufacturers, not for patriotism but for profit.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is interesting that the right to keep and bear arms was primarily meant as protection against the minions of King George&#8230;</p>
<p>My ancestors who fought in the Revolution didn&#8217;t fear their neighbors, the feared their government.</p>
<p>Which is why, when the 2nd Amendment was written, so free people could protect themsleves from oppression, not each other.</p>
<p>Now it has been perverted into this strange version, where people keep guns because they are afraid of their neighbors. And the right to keep those arms is defended primarily by gun manufacturers, not for patriotism but for profit.</p>
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		<title>By: JEP</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/08/open-thread-85/#comment-208204</link>
		<dc:creator>JEP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 07:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Tancredo&#039;s suggestion is pure nuts.&quot;

Just the idea that he lumps all Muslims into one category, as if threatening to bomb Mecca will somehow keep some new Bin Laden from doing us damage is nuts, no doubt.

Imagine the English bombing a Protestant Church in Ireland to get back at the Irish Catholics.

That is about how culturally astute Tancredo&#039;s &quot;bomb their holy sites&quot; bravado is.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Tancredo&#8217;s suggestion is pure nuts.&#8221;</p>
<p>Just the idea that he lumps all Muslims into one category, as if threatening to bomb Mecca will somehow keep some new Bin Laden from doing us damage is nuts, no doubt.</p>
<p>Imagine the English bombing a Protestant Church in Ireland to get back at the Irish Catholics.</p>
<p>That is about how culturally astute Tancredo&#8217;s &#8220;bomb their holy sites&#8221; bravado is.</p>
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		<title>By: JEP</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/08/open-thread-85/#comment-208203</link>
		<dc:creator>JEP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 07:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I love mom&#039;s in general, and particularly any mom with a star in her window for having son&#039;s who served this great nation.&quot;

My friend Cindy Sheehan fits that description, probably more than anyone you know, I suppose she doesn&#039;t qualify in your book?

Hypocrite.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I love mom&#8217;s in general, and particularly any mom with a star in her window for having son&#8217;s who served this great nation.&#8221;</p>
<p>My friend Cindy Sheehan fits that description, probably more than anyone you know, I suppose she doesn&#8217;t qualify in your book?</p>
<p>Hypocrite.</p>
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		<title>By: Kansas</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/08/open-thread-85/#comment-208202</link>
		<dc:creator>Kansas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 06:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tancredo&#039;s suggestion is pure nuts.

Such an attack would result in a full fledge world-wide assault on every American asset.

Very dumb and dangerous idea.

Tourism overseas by Americans would be put to an end.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tancredo&#8217;s suggestion is pure nuts.</p>
<p>Such an attack would result in a full fledge world-wide assault on every American asset.</p>
<p>Very dumb and dangerous idea.</p>
<p>Tourism overseas by Americans would be put to an end.</p>
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		<title>By: JEP</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/08/open-thread-85/#comment-208201</link>
		<dc:creator>JEP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 06:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;BTW, the sale of automatic weapons is skyrocketing. You can confirm this at any gun store. Ask them WHY EVERYONE IS HURRYING TO BUY THESE GUNS?&quot;

Pretty simple, friend.

Because they just ended the ban against them, and the gun dealers make a lot of money for weapon traders. And they are cheap.

When I ran my guide service, I got to know guides from many other states.

When someone shows up at their lodge or camp with an AK47 for a hunt, they just shake their heads and wonder what is wrong with the person.

If your life is so dangeroous on a daily basis that yu feel the need to carry deadly force, maybe you should consider changing your lifestyle.

Remember what Matt Dillon (the sheriff) did when someone wore a gun into town?

He made them hang it up at the sheriff&#039;s office.

I have no problem with someone owning a gun, or even being a collector. I accept your right to keep and bear arms, as long as your neighbors and family don&#039;t think otherwise.

But when you start to put an arsenal together, and gather your ammo to store it away for that awful day when you fear &quot;they are comin&#039; to git ya&quot;, you need some serious help.

That is how Columbine happened, and more than anything, I hope you aren&#039;t teaching your own children the same blind fear that sends you into a psychological fetal position whenever you see something you don&#039;t understand...

Here&#039;s a good idea.

If everyone needed at least three legitimate references to get a gun in the first place, like they do to get a job, or to get credit to buy a car, it might keep something like Virginia Tech from happening.

And just stop and think about it, if you can&#039;t find three legitimate citizens without violent criminal records who will vouch for your sensibility, why on earth would any of us strangers EVER want you  to own a gun!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;BTW, the sale of automatic weapons is skyrocketing. You can confirm this at any gun store. Ask them WHY EVERYONE IS HURRYING TO BUY THESE GUNS?&#8221;</p>
<p>Pretty simple, friend.</p>
<p>Because they just ended the ban against them, and the gun dealers make a lot of money for weapon traders. And they are cheap.</p>
<p>When I ran my guide service, I got to know guides from many other states.</p>
<p>When someone shows up at their lodge or camp with an AK47 for a hunt, they just shake their heads and wonder what is wrong with the person.</p>
<p>If your life is so dangeroous on a daily basis that yu feel the need to carry deadly force, maybe you should consider changing your lifestyle.</p>
<p>Remember what Matt Dillon (the sheriff) did when someone wore a gun into town?</p>
<p>He made them hang it up at the sheriff&#8217;s office.</p>
<p>I have no problem with someone owning a gun, or even being a collector. I accept your right to keep and bear arms, as long as your neighbors and family don&#8217;t think otherwise.</p>
<p>But when you start to put an arsenal together, and gather your ammo to store it away for that awful day when you fear &#8220;they are comin&#8217; to git ya&#8221;, you need some serious help.</p>
<p>That is how Columbine happened, and more than anything, I hope you aren&#8217;t teaching your own children the same blind fear that sends you into a psychological fetal position whenever you see something you don&#8217;t understand&#8230;</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a good idea.</p>
<p>If everyone needed at least three legitimate references to get a gun in the first place, like they do to get a job, or to get credit to buy a car, it might keep something like Virginia Tech from happening.</p>
<p>And just stop and think about it, if you can&#8217;t find three legitimate citizens without violent criminal records who will vouch for your sensibility, why on earth would any of us strangers EVER want you  to own a gun!</p>
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		<title>By: CapnAmerica</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/08/open-thread-85/#comment-208200</link>
		<dc:creator>CapnAmerica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 06:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Colorado Rep. Tom Tancredo&#039;s campaign stood by his assertion that bombing holy Muslim sites would serve as a good &quot;deterrent&quot; to prevent Islamic fundamentalists from attacking the United States, his spokeswoman said Friday.

&quot;This shows that we mean business,&quot; said Bay Buchanan, a senior Tancredo adviser. &quot;There&#039;s no more effective deterrent than that. But he is open-minded and willing to embrace other options. This is just a means to deter them from attacking us.&quot;

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&quot;If it is up to me, we are going to explain that an attack on this homeland of that nature would be followed by an attack on the holy sites in Mecca and Medina,&quot; Tancredo said. &quot;That is the only thing I can think of that might deter somebody from doing what they would otherwise do. If I am wrong, fine, tell me, and I would be happy to do something else. But you had better find a deterrent, or you will find an attack.&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Colorado Rep. Tom Tancredo&#8217;s campaign stood by his assertion that bombing holy Muslim sites would serve as a good &#8220;deterrent&#8221; to prevent Islamic fundamentalists from attacking the United States, his spokeswoman said Friday.</p>
<p>&#8220;This shows that we mean business,&#8221; said Bay Buchanan, a senior Tancredo adviser. &#8220;There&#8217;s no more effective deterrent than that. But he is open-minded and willing to embrace other options. This is just a means to deter them from attacking us.&#8221;</p>
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<p>&#8220;If it is up to me, we are going to explain that an attack on this homeland of that nature would be followed by an attack on the holy sites in Mecca and Medina,&#8221; Tancredo said. &#8220;That is the only thing I can think of that might deter somebody from doing what they would otherwise do. If I am wrong, fine, tell me, and I would be happy to do something else. But you had better find a deterrent, or you will find an attack.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: CapnAmerica</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/08/open-thread-85/#comment-208199</link>
		<dc:creator>CapnAmerica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 06:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I basically agree with what you wrote, Ed.

But there&#039;s a problem here--most of the gun-nuts also LOVE BUSH.  The NRA set up shop in the Oval Office.

That&#039;s the trouble.  When fascists like Bush control gov&#039;t, &quot;law and order&quot; gun-nuts don&#039;t have the sense to oppose them, but see themselves as the &#039;storm troopers&#039; to help bring about the very police state gun ownership is supposed to prevent.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I basically agree with what you wrote, Ed.</p>
<p>But there&#8217;s a problem here&#8211;most of the gun-nuts also LOVE BUSH.  The NRA set up shop in the Oval Office.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the trouble.  When fascists like Bush control gov&#8217;t, &#8220;law and order&#8221; gun-nuts don&#8217;t have the sense to oppose them, but see themselves as the &#8217;storm troopers&#8217; to help bring about the very police state gun ownership is supposed to prevent.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Friedemann</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/08/open-thread-85/#comment-208198</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Friedemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 06:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Second Amendment to the US Constitution deals with two issues and are separated by an &quot;and.&quot;

The importance of the first part deals with the People being able to form a militia, if they deem necessary, and that should be self evident.
The Second issue reaffirms the right of the People to keep and bear arms in order to give the People the power of force against their government, when and if that government turns from serving the People, to trying to dominate them.

Government has been given the power to have an Army, but was also forbidden to use that Army internally.

If that government decides to use its Army as an occupying or ruling force, the People need the weapons to fight back.

The Constitution is all about knowing that governments are inherently untrustworthy and the People need the means by which to retake their government if or when that becomes necessary.

That is what all the fuss about gun-control is really all about.

Not all Americans are really Americans. Some do not understand the true nature of governments, while some are actually subversive.

George W. Bush and his Neocon/Zionists have demonstrated the need for a strong Second Amendment by trying to subvert the Constitution and turn this country into a dictatorship.

That serves as a good lesson. The time draws near to give &quot;him and his&quot; a good lesson about the laws of treason.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Second Amendment to the US Constitution deals with two issues and are separated by an &#8220;and.&#8221;</p>
<p>The importance of the first part deals with the People being able to form a militia, if they deem necessary, and that should be self evident.<br />
The Second issue reaffirms the right of the People to keep and bear arms in order to give the People the power of force against their government, when and if that government turns from serving the People, to trying to dominate them.</p>
<p>Government has been given the power to have an Army, but was also forbidden to use that Army internally.</p>
<p>If that government decides to use its Army as an occupying or ruling force, the People need the weapons to fight back.</p>
<p>The Constitution is all about knowing that governments are inherently untrustworthy and the People need the means by which to retake their government if or when that becomes necessary.</p>
<p>That is what all the fuss about gun-control is really all about.</p>
<p>Not all Americans are really Americans. Some do not understand the true nature of governments, while some are actually subversive.</p>
<p>George W. Bush and his Neocon/Zionists have demonstrated the need for a strong Second Amendment by trying to subvert the Constitution and turn this country into a dictatorship.</p>
<p>That serves as a good lesson. The time draws near to give &#8220;him and his&#8221; a good lesson about the laws of treason.</p>
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		<title>By: CapnAmerica</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/08/open-thread-85/#comment-208197</link>
		<dc:creator>CapnAmerica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 06:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup, Tom--

Just toying with him like small fish that won&#039;t fight.

He&#039;s no keeper . . .
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, Tom&#8211;</p>
<p>Just toying with him like small fish that won&#8217;t fight.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s no keeper . . .</p>
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		<title>By: CapnAmerica</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/08/open-thread-85/#comment-208196</link>
		<dc:creator>CapnAmerica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 06:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How are all your NRA buddies going to come over and ream me a new one when they&#039;re all hard at work at their 12 hour a day jobs punching cattle or hammering concrete?

Just wondered.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How are all your NRA buddies going to come over and ream me a new one when they&#8217;re all hard at work at their 12 hour a day jobs punching cattle or hammering concrete?</p>
<p>Just wondered.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/08/open-thread-85/#comment-208195</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 06:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Capn,

Someone is too thick, too dense, too much like a box of rocks to understand when they&#039;re being mocked.

I hate that.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Capn,</p>
<p>Someone is too thick, too dense, too much like a box of rocks to understand when they&#8217;re being mocked.</p>
<p>I hate that.</p>
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		<title>By: From my dead fingers</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/08/open-thread-85/#comment-208194</link>
		<dc:creator>From my dead fingers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 06:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You watched too many movies.

Posted by: CapnAmerica &#124; August 05, 2007 at 11:55 PM

Even Jason Bourne has that figured out . . .

Posted by: CapnAmerica &#124; August 05, 2007 at 11:59 PM

What an idiot.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You watched too many movies.</p>
<p>Posted by: CapnAmerica | August 05, 2007 at 11:55 PM</p>
<p>Even Jason Bourne has that figured out . . .</p>
<p>Posted by: CapnAmerica | August 05, 2007 at 11:59 PM</p>
<p>What an idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: CapnAmerica</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/08/open-thread-85/#comment-208193</link>
		<dc:creator>CapnAmerica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 05:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even Jason Bourne has that figured out . . .
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even Jason Bourne has that figured out . . .</p>
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