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- By Phillip Brownlee
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Interesting story on comparing how much power it would take to power New York City with wind farms (Wind Farm the size of Connetictut,) other interesting figures as well.
A Green Sings the Renewable Energy Blues
Monday, July 30, 2007
“Rockefeller University’s Jesse Ausubel introduced his new article on renewable energy by openly worrying about “hereticide” — the all-to-common historical phenomenon of putting heretics to death.
As a long-time Green, Ausubel has good reason to be concerned given his article condemns renewable energy as “wrecking” the environment.
“Renewables are not green,” is how Ausubel begins the article published in the International Journal of Nuclear Governance, Economy and Ecology. It’s a remarkable statement coming from someone who beat his fellow Greens to global warming alarmism by at least 10 years.
Ausubel’s Rockefeller University bio says that he “was one of the main organizers of the first U.N. World Climate Conference (Geneva, 1979) which substantially elevated the global warming issue on scientific and political agendas” and that he “played major roles in the formulation of both U.S. and world climate-research programs.”
Ausubel’s remarkable article, however, may very well cost him whatever exalted status he may have had in the Green movement, which is likely to brand him an out-and-out traitor to the cause.
(Story continues at:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,291071,00.html
10 Benefits of Rising Early, and How to Do It
Every Thursday is Happiness Day on Zen Habits.
“Early to bed and early to rise makes a man healthy, wealthy and wise” – Ben Franklin, famously
“Put no trust in the benefits to accrue from early rising, as set forth by the infatuated Franklin …” – Mark Twain
Recently, reader Rob asked me about my habit of waking at 4:30 a.m. each day, and asked me to write about the health benefits of rising early, which I thought was an excellent question. Unfortunately, there are none, that I know of.
However, there are a ton of other great benefits.
Now, let me first say that if you are a night owl, and that works for you, I think that’s great. There’s no reason to change, especially if you’re happy with it. But for me, switching from being a night owl to an early riser (and yes, it is possible) has been a godsend. It has helped me in so many ways that I’d never go back. Here are just a few:
*Greet the day. I love being able to get up, and greet a wonderful new day. I suggest creating a morning ritual that includes saying thanks for your blessings. I’m inspired by the Dalai Lama, who said, ” Everyday, think as you wake up, ‘today I am fortunate to have woken up, I am alive, I have a precious human life, I am not going to waste it. I am going to use all my energies to develop myself, to expand my heart out to others, to achieve enlightenment for the benefit of all beings, I am going to have kind thoughts towards others, I am not going to get angry or think badly about others, I am going to benefit others as much as I can.’ “
*Amazing start. I used to start my day by jumping out of bed, late as usual, and rushing to get myself and the kids ready, and rushing to drop them to school and come in to work late. I would walk into work, looking rumpled and barely awake, grumpy and behind everyone else. Not a great start to your day. Now, I have a renewing morning ritual, I’ve gotten so much done before 8 a.m., my kids are early and so am I, and by the time everyone else gets in to work, I’ve already gotten a head start. There is no better way to start off your day than to wake early, in my experience.
*Quietude. No kids yelling, no babies crying, no soccer balls, no cars, no television noise. The early morning hours are so peaceful, so quiet. It’s my favorite time of day. I truly enjoy that time of peace, that time to myself, when I can think, when I can read, when I can breathe.
*Sunrise. People who wake late miss one of the greatest feats of nature, repeated in full stereovision each and every day — the rise of the sun. I love how the day slowly gets brighter, when the midnight blue turns to lighter blue, when the brilliant colors start to seep into the sky, when nature is painted in incredible colors. I like doing my early morning run during this time, and I look up at the sky as I run and say to the world, “What a glorious day!” Really. I really do that. Corny, I know.
*Breakfast. Rise early and you actually have time for breakfast. I’m told it’s one of the most important meals of the day. Without breakfast, your body is running on fumes until you are so hungry at lunchtime that you eat whatever unhealthy thing you can find. The fattier and sugarier, the betterier. But eat breakfast, and you are sated until later. Plus, eating breakfast while reading my book and drinking my coffee in the quiet of the morning is eminently more enjoyable than scarfing something down on the way to work, or at your desk.
*Exercise. There are other times to exercise besides the early morning, of course, but I’ve found that while exercising right after work is also very enjoyable, it’s also liable to be canceled because of other things that come up. Morning exercise is virtually never canceled.
*Productivity. Mornings, for me at least, are the most productive time of day. I like to do some writing in the morning, when there are no distractions, before I check my email or blog stats. I get so much more done by starting on my work in the morning. Then, when evening rolls around, I have no work that I need to do, and I can spend it with family.
*Goal time. Got goals? Well, you should. And there’s no better time to review them and plan for them and do your goal tasks than first thing. You should have one goal that you want to accomplish this week. And every morning, you should decide what one thing you can do today to move yourself further towards that goal. And then, if possible, do that first thing in the morning.
*Commute. No one likes rush-hour traffic, except for Big Oil. Commute early, and the traffic is much lighter, and you get to work faster, and thus save yourself more time. Or better yet, commute by bike. (Or even better yet, work from home.)
*Appointments. It’s much easier to make those early appointments on time if you get up early. Showing up late for those appointments is a bad signal to the person you’re meeting. Showing up early will impress them. Plus, you get time to prepare.
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How to Become an Early Riser(if you desire)
*Don’t make drastic changes. Start slowly, by waking just 15-30 minutes earlier than usual. Get used to this for a few days. Then cut back another 15 minutes. Do this gradually until you get to your goal time.
*Allow yourself to sleep earlier. You might be used to staying up late, perhaps watching TV or surfing the Internet. But if you continue this habit, while trying to get up earlier, sooner or later one is going to give. And if it is the early rising that gives, then you will crash and sleep late and have to start over. I suggest going to bed earlier, even if you don’t think you’ll sleep, and read while in bed. If you’re really tired, you just might fall asleep much sooner than you think.
*Put your alarm clock far from you bed. If it’s right next to your bed, you’ll shut it off or hit snooze. Never hit snooze. If it’s far from your bed, you have to get up out of bed to shut it off. By then, you’re up. Now you just have to stay up.
*Go out of the bedroom as soon as you shut off the alarm. Don’t allow yourself to rationalize going back to bed. Just force yourself to go out of the room. My habit is to stumble into the bathroom and go pee. By the time I’ve done that, and flushed the toilet and washed my hands and looked at my ugly mug in the mirror, I’m awake enough to face the day.
*Do not rationalize. If you allow your brain to talk you out of getting up early, you’ll never do it. Don’t make getting back in bed an option.
Have a good reason. Set something to do early in the morning that’s important. This reason will motivate you to get up. I like to write in the morning, so that’s my reason. Also, when I’m done with that, I like to read all of your comments!
*Make waking up early a reward. Yes, it might seem at first that you’re forcing yourself to do something hard, but if you make it pleasurable, soon you will look forward to waking up early. A good reward is to make a hot cup of coffee or tea and read a book. Other rewards might be a tasty treat for breakfast (smoothies! yum!) or watching the sunrise, or meditating. Find something that’s pleasurable for you, and allow yourself to do it as part of your morning routine.
*Take advantage of all that extra time. Don’t wake up an hour or two early just to read your blogs, unless that’s a major goal of yours. Don’t wake up early and waste that extra time. Get a jump start on your day! I like to use that time to get a head start on preparing my kids’ lunches, on planning for the rest of the day (when I set my MITs), on exercising or meditating, and on reading. By the time 6:30 rolls around, I’ve done more than many people do the entire day.
All are beholden to special interest campaign money especially considering this very early and long campaign. One would think presidential candidates would be more productive than spending years campaigning and sucking up to special interests.
That goes to all three sides of the aisle… democrats,republicans(what few are left) and facist neoconservatives( the worst thing that has happened to america).
Crowson’s cartoon reminded me, I got an anti-casino call on Monday. The interesting thing was that this call originated in Newton. Didn’t Harvey County pass whatever vote was needed to allow casino gaming there? The caller could not tell me what interest Harvey County might have in casino gaming in Wichita. Hmmm…
Ethanol is a renewable energy scam.
It takes more than a gallon of oil to produce a gallon of ethanol. Net energy loss and no depletion of oil use.
JW,
Amen. Not to mention water consumption and higher prices for everything downstream of grain production.
Solar and hydrogen. Waves of the future. GM just announced their first full size hybrid SUV/Truck. It is still gas/electric. But a move in the right direction. Ford has 30 hydrogen cell/electric hybrids in Florida for –real world testing—
We will always need oil, but if we can stop using it to fuel our cars and power companies…
What else does America not know about how their rights are being trampled on?White House says spying broader than known: report Wed Aug 1, 12:28 AM ET
WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The Bush administration’s top intelligence official has acknowledged that a controversial domestic surveillance program was only one part of a much broader spying effort, The Washington Post reported in its Wednesday edition.
ADVERTISEMENTDirector of National Intelligence Mike McConnell wrote in a letter that other aspects of the National Security Agency’s domestic spying program remain classified, the Post said.
“That is the only aspect of the NSA activities that can be discussed publicly because it is the only aspect of those various activities whose existence has been officially acknowledged,” McConnell wrote, according to the Post.
Bush acknowledged the existence of a program that monitored domestic phone calls and e-mails without court oversight in December 2005. The administration has not confirmed other secret spying efforts reported by news outlets, such as one that searched millions of telephone records.
Bush signed an executive order that authorized “a number of … intelligence activities” following the hijacking attacks of September 11, 2001, McConnell wrote.
The warrantless wiretapping program was put under court supervision in January but the administration now wants Congress to allow it to do many of the same activities without a court order.
The letter was sent on Tuesday to Pennsylvania Sen. Arlen Specter, the top Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee.
The letter was written to defend Attorney General Alberto
Gonzales, who has been under attack over his testimony to Congress about the warrantless spying program, the Post said.
If Ashcroft was willing to go to the mat, there must be some bad shit going on.
Sam Brownback 111 Votes (1.2 %)Newt Gingrich 471 Votes (5.2 %)Rudy Giuliani 471 Votes (5.2 %)Mike Huckabee 271 Votes (3 %)Duncan Hunter 706 Votes (7.8 %)John McCain 56 Votes (0.6 %)Ron Paul 5007 Votes (55.2 %)
Mitt Romney 450 Votes (5 %)
Tom Tancredo 206 Votes (2.3 %)
Tommy Thompson 21 Votes (0.2 %)
Fred Thompson 1464 Votes (16.2 %)
http://www.freedomworks.org/strawpoll/index.php
Y’all still have time to vote. Voting ends 2 Aug.
Y’all still have time to vote. Voting ends 2 Aug.
Posted by: SolDevVB | August 01, 2007 at 10:09 AM
Thanks for the link. I voted twice!
DEMOCRAT WILL LEAD US TO MORE WAR:
Despite the challenges, and potentially destabilizing effect U.S. military action inside Pakistan could create, Obama said it was important to remain enagaged there. “There are terrorists holed up in those mountains who murdered 3,000 Americans. They are plotting to strike again,” he will say. “It was a terrible mistake to fail to act when we had a chance to take out an al Qaeda leadership meeting in 2005. If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets, and President Musharraf won’t act, we will.”
We learn nothing from the past.
Here’s a big DUH. Every appointment or firing made by a president is political. Every breath they take is political. Nothing NEW here. And certainly nothing illegal. Clinton fired them all, no questions asked.The US Attorneys served at the pleasure of the POTUS. It simply no longe pleased him. All within his constitution rights. The congress is on a witch hunt. Take a minor legal act and drum it up to something big and make it sound sinister. Yawn.
When announcing the subpoena on the Senate floor, Leahy said “we’ve now reached a point where the accumulated evidence shows that political considerations factored into the unprecedented firing of at least nine U.S. attorneys last year.
Jesus WEPT Rath, do you meme much?
Clinton fired them at the beginning of his term, like most presidents. And they were not investigating him and his adminstration at the time.
Bushco fired usa’s because they were getting to close to the trail that would lead them to him. It wasnt a political firing, it was an OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE firing.
But please continue to spin that tired, old, worn out meme. It makes you look like the apologist you are.
Clinton fired his people at the beginning of his Term… not just a few picked and chosen for not following his administration policies… BIG difference… and also, Clinton did the normal thing… change of staff with a new administration… That doesnt compare with firing 8(9) people who dont fit your mold…
Hey KFG sometimes GMTA LOL
LOL
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070801/ap_on_el_pr/obama_terrorism_7
“The Illinois senator warned Pakistani President Gen. Pervez Musharraf that he must do more to shut down terrorist operations in his country and evict foreign fighters under an Obama presidency, or Pakistan will risk a U.S. troop invasion and losing hundreds of millions of dollars in U.S. military aid.”
Oh how I love it.
Iraq was wrong, bad, and we need to leave.
But Pakistan? Who cares! Screw their President, we are coming!
So much for the whole “make the world love us” policy the libs claim to live by.
KFG,
You wouldn’t happen to have a shred of evidence to back up your claim would you?
The Bush administration’s chief intelligence official said yesterday that President Bush authorized a series of secret surveillance activities under a single executive order in late 2001. The disclosure makes clear that a controversial National Security Agency program was part of a much broader operation than the president previously described.http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/31/AR2007073102137.html?hpid=topnews
Ok, what else have these sneaking lying SOBs been up to?
Perhaps in response to 911 XXX.
Or do you think Bush had surveillance cameras and audio recording equipment in your bedroom?
:)
OK Chas, why did Clinton fire ALL of his attorney’s could it be political favors needed paid back??
Liberal Koolaid:
Clinton fired his people at the beginning of his Term.
You folks are darn near funny. If it is LEGAL to fire your employees at the beginning of a term, or the second day, or the third, it is certainly legal to fire them in year five.
If America is well served time will tell “what else these sneaking lying SOBs been up to.” Accountability just began a few short months ago. So much to do, so little time. The Republican majority ignored their responsibility of oversight so it’s a big job in a shorter time, but the Democratic majority can handle big jobs; even when there is so much to investigate it spreads the available resources thin! Someone must hold bushco’s feet to the fire!
A comprehensive look at Universal HealthCare.
Very easy to read and understand:
http://www.pnhp.org/facts/singlepayer_faq.php
Democratic oversight is the equivalent of Salem Witch Trials.
A sad commentary on the empty substance party – The Democraps.
I Like Your Thinking
“A teacher asks her class, “If there are five birds sitting on a fence and you shoot one of them, how many will be left?” She calls on little Johnny.
“None, they all fly away with the first gunshot.”
The teacher replies, “The correct answer is four, but I like your thinking.”
Then Little Johnny says, “I have a question for YOU. There are three women sitting on a bench having ice cream. One is delicately licking the sides of the triple scoop of ice cream. The second is gobbling down the top and sucking the cone. The third is biting off the top of the ice cream. Which one is married?”
The teacher, blushing a great deal, replies, “Well I suppose the one that’s gobbled down the top and sucked the cone.”
“The correct answer is the one with the wedding ring on… but I like your thinking.”
The matrix is real, and the puppetmasters rejoice. Attack each other, play your silly little dems good/bad, repubs evil/good games and the ones truly in control laugh. Pathetic
Bill Clinton fired 90 something US Attorneys for (PICK ONE):
PoliticalPersonalJudicialEconomical
reasons.
HAHAH HAHAHAHAHAHAH! HAHA! HE-HE (as the CapnA troll would say)
The real reason repukes run from the YouTube debates? They are ashamed of their “base”. hehehehehe. You will see the usual characters from the right side of the blog in this post.
hee hee hee hee
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389×1485321
another useless, mindless editorial from the socalled folks at democrat underground. Big fng deal
LJ, you are starting to sound like the troll. This and yesterday’s posts make me wonder WTF happened to you on vacation.
You left here a reasonable christian conservative poster. I NEVER thought of you as liberal.
Now you are a christian liberal? Who’s still sore about getting clocked yesterday? The old LJ would not have made those posts. The old LJ was able to disagree, but ALWAYS remained respectful.
Now?
I hafta ask. Where is LJ and what have you done with him?
Very easy to read and understand:
http://www.democratic doctors worship Teddy kennedy..org/facts/singlepayer_faq.phpPosted by: Richard Heckler | August 01, 2007 at 11:29 AM
It has to be easy to read or you couldn’t understand it. Here, let me help:
I’m typing this real slow so’s you can keep up readin’ it.
I knew the link was trash as soon as I saw TEDDY KENNEDY quoted at the top.
There are probably a few liberal doctors out there and they put a website together. No talent needed for that.
But they do not represent the majority.
KSGrrl–
Hehehe. Good one.
I hadn’t thought of that.
None of the Repubes wants to be identified with the CONFEDERATE FLAG tattooed FReepers holding a can of PBR in one hand and a .45 in the other . . .
KFG – Ron Paul didn’t back down.
I hadnt thought about it either capn, but when I read it, the truth of it was clear.
Given the illustrations of it on THIS blog, I cant say that I blame them…
Bill Clinton, as President and head of the executive branch of government, could legally fire ninety US Attorneys on what day in office UNDER THE LAW:
1st2nd44th91st365th2nd year3rd year5th year6th yearALL THE ABOVE
(hint: If you picked ALL THE ABOVE you would be absolutely correct.)
This was originally posted on http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/07/31/late-nite-fdl-why-the-republicans-are-running-from-youtube and check it out–this is a keeper:
Let’s get something straight here. The reason the Republicans are running from a YouTube debate has nothing to do with embarrassing themselves and everything to do with the horror that is the Republican base (see video above). Imagine a whole two hour debate composed entirely of questions from men lovingly cradling their assault rifles, matronly polyester-swathed frumps of much avoirdupois braying and squawking about abstinence-only education and the danger of Harry Potter in our schools, angry old men taking a break from standing on their porches shouting, “Get the hell out of my yard!” to stare Mike Gravel-like into the camera and demand to know what the candidates plan to do about “th’ dayumn Mexicans”.
It would be a bloodbath. The Republican base is assuredly Not Ready for Prime Time, and the candidates know it, which is why their “scheduling conflicts” keep floating around to match every date that CNN helpfully supplies them in the network’s efforts to keep the dream of a Republican YouTube Debate alive.
Why did the Dems run from the Fox News debate..hehehehehehe
oh yeah, they are not use to having questions asked of them, that hasn’t been given to them weeks in advance to study..or real issues for that matter..
at least the Republians show up and only reject the way the questions are asked..
hahahahahah
CapnA:
Do they still make PBR?
And I think a 9mm is preferred now days.
Ok. Wanna talk about doctors? Cool.
http://pressesc.com/news/80931072007/atheist-doctors-mo...
Atheist doctors are likely to practice medicine among the underprivileged than religious physicians, even though most religions call on the faithful to serve the poor, according to the results of large cross-sectional survey of US medical practitioners published in Annals of Family Medicine.
Researchers from the University of Chicago and Yale New Haven Hospital report that 31 percent of physicians who were more religious—as measured by “intrinsic religiosity” as well as frequency of attendance at religious services—practiced among the underserved, compared to 35 percent of physicians who described their religion as atheist, agnostic or none.
“This came as both a surprise and a disappointment,” study author Farr Curlin, MD, said. “The Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu and Buddhist scriptures all urge physicians to care for the poor, and the great majority of religious physicians describe their practice of medicine as a calling. Yet we found that religious physicians were not more likely to report practice among the underserved than their secular colleagues.”
Physicians avoid spending the bulk of their time caring for the poor as it could mean forgoing professional prestige, free time and academic opportunities.
“at least the Republians show up and only reject the way the questions are asked..
hahahahahah”
That doesnt even make any sense. Just like you. Sounds like a post made by someone on the verge of meltdown.
Walk on by…
The Dems “ran” from the FOX debate because they didn’t want to support–through viewership–a network that is nothing more than a tout for the Republican party in general and Worst. President. Ever. in particular.
Case in point–Tony Snow, former Fox News-shill and now official White House spokes-shill.
There must be a way to spin this into an equal rights for gays amendment.
Nothing happened on vacation. What happened when I got back was that I was sickened by the bs on the blog. Since starting to post here, I was asked to off myself, i watched as outlander was volunteered to take three shots to the head and HIS creditibility was taken to task. I have been called a traitor by that wonderous poster C2F2, and a call for my trial for treason, and on and on and onI have watched you constantly bitch and bitch and bitch about the christian taliban, which is anybody that is christian and doesn’t agree with you, on abortion, on gay rights, or anything else. I have watched the attack mode of You, CampnAmerica, cf2f, and others. ANd I have learned that you and others have no interest in discussion, but only hate. I am fkng sick of it. So, my posts will no longer be about meaningful discussion. They will only do two things1) Question and call to account irrevelant, incorrect, and speculative posts just as your little army of haters do2)post factual information that disagrees with your precious little “crew” of bigots, haters, and malcontents.
I thought serious discussion was possible here. I thought maybe dissension with the liberal mindset was possible here. I see only hate for those who don;t march in lockstep with your pathetic attempt at control
“that is nothing more than a tout for the Republican party in general and Worst. President. Ever. in particular.”
Sounds more like values boy to me…
He’s supposed to be about values, but he is the head conservative republican cheerleader.
Why doesnt the WE just call him what he is? A republican shill.
RR–
Yes.
And 9mm is preferred by most people but the red-necked right consider it too “European” . . .
The Dems “ran” from the FOX debate…. Posted by: CapnAmerica | August 01, 2007 at 11:58 AM
So they are chickens with a reason.
OK LJ, thanks for clearing that up. We will regard your postings as such.
Nice Try capn Communism capn and Garden girl..
hahahahaha..the Dems are to afraid to handle a news channel that will challenge them..
hey Communist heard of.. Chris Mathews believe he woked for Clinton
ABC hired a couple ex-Clinton staffers
Garden girl.. I’m pretty sure you got the Jist of my post.. but hey if you got nothing to say, you got nothing to say..
Yes.
Posted by: CapnAmerica | August 01, 2007 at 12:02 PM
I haven’t seen a can of PBR, since, well since my dad rode horses. Where do you buy that?Must be real rural Kansas to still have some old stuff on the shelf.
But I think you forgot the cigarrette hanging out of their mouths in your initial post.
KSGrrl–
I’m with you, Sister.
I think the poster formerly known as LJ is channelling RepubliKhansas.
He specifically mentions me as “hateful” and I’ve actually been trying to avoid the cheap-shots and general nastiness.
I’m still snarky though. Can’t give that up.
KSGrrl–
I’m with you, Sister.
I think the poster formerly known as LJ is channelling RepubliKhansas.
He specifically mentions me as “attacking” and I’ve actually been trying to avoid the cheap-shots and general nastiness.
Also, LJ was one of the centrist post-ers that I formerly read and respected.
I’m still snarky though. Can’t give that up.
lmao -
leopard and spots CapnAmerica
leopards and spots
RR–
Pabst Blue Ribbon is still brewed. My son at his Ivy League college used to appall his friends by ordering it at local bars.
Khansas–
Let me speak for every thinking person on the entire blog when say with all due respect
FFFUUUCCCKKK OFF.
Okay, back to walk on by . . .
“Ethanol is a renewable energy scam.”
Posted by: Joe Williams | August 01, 2007 at 07:54 AM
Your proof?
‘MIT ethanol analysis confirms benefits of biofuels’http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2007/ethanol.html
“Controversy over the benefits of using corn-based ethanol in vehicles has been fueled by studies showing that converting corn into ethanol may use more fossil energy than the energy contained in the ethanol produced. Now a new MIT analysis shows that the energy balance is actually so close that several factors can easily change whether ethanol ends up a net energy winner or loser.”
Plus research is developing improvements –A new dewatering membrane that might save up to 40% in energy costs.Use of waste heat at power plants.New engineered yeasts improve speed and efficiency of ethanol production.
http://www.greencarcongress.com/ethanol/index.html
Capn-
My personal apologies. You are correct. Of late, you have been leaving off the personal attacks.
I should not have included you.
Gee, been gone a few days and f-off comments by Capn American now make him a saint.
Good choice for your boy, WE Blog.
Makes you wonder, when the WE Blog endorsed Capn American and his alter Nic WSClark, why do people read this blog? Or write to it?
On some occasions, a good conversation takes place. That’s become a rare event now.
Oh Capn, you don’t think (even if you could think I wouldn’t care) for everyone on this blog.
Thanks, LJ.
I still attack RepubliKhansas for trolling and disrupting, but everybody else, I try to not attack personally.
Probably don’t always succeed . . .
Clinton fired ALL of the attorneys…. At the BEGINNING of his term in office… Thats nothing more or less than a change of staff at the beginning of a new administration…. Yes, he could have done it on day one, or day last…
So could Bush/AG…. BUT… they chose to fire those who disagreed with White House policy, and claimed it had to do with job performance… It didnt… THAT is the perceived problem with Gonzalez
Max,
The WE Blog was unbelievably peaceful and great posts were made when the Fisters left the blog bleeding wimpy fear.
It’s great to know that a Blog can be coherent without the inclusion of some of the Leftist terroristic posters entering their vindictive spew on the Blog.
Max–
I know WSClark. WSClark is a friend of mine.
I’m no WSClark.
Oh Please CapnAmerica,
“Case in point–Tony Snow, former Fox News-shill and now official White House spokes-shill.”
Is there even a network news outlet that doesn’t employ one of Clinton’s staffers these days?
Hardly proof of anything close to Fox News being anywhere nearly as biased as you libs seem to think.
Kansas… I am sure the same could be said if the Reich Wing left the Blog… Be careful of your analogies!! They tend to turn around and bite you!!
Chas,
Next thing to point out is how it was all still perfectly legal to do so.
Kansas, or republican, or whoever the hell you are, can;t you just shut the hell up. You are certainly no better than the rest of the haters here. Except you claim to be a republican, and a christian (if I recall). Therefore, your bs reflects on all of us. Just shut up and go away.
I don’t think I would listen to anyone who called themselves Christiantaliban…
The big difference Chas, we don’t cut and run like the “yellow stripe down the back” Fisters did.
Their literal “cut and run” is also directly related to their view on Iraq as they cannot handle reality and want to live in their own DailyKos cushioned world of narcissistic emetics.
christiantalibanformerlyknownaslittlejohn
hmmm,
Bite me
Max–
Don’t you think that WEBlog should let rich people more often than poor people.
Because after all, rich people by their very WEALTH have proven that they are of more benefit to society than poor people.
Take for instance someone who makes poison gas. Poison gas is illegal and hard to find, so this entrepreneur makes many millions of dollars.
That proves that he is much more valuable to society than a farmer, say, who grows wheat for bread and doesn’t even cover his expenses.
So we can say that this WEBLOG is SOCIALIST! because it gives everyone equal opportunity for a voice even though they don’t DESERVE an equal opportunity for a voice.
Think about it.
Why do you insist on supporting a SOCIALIST blog?
Ummm if you would merely read, I DID say that!!
But I forget, you cant read the meta-communication in a post… you have to have it verbatim….
OK… it is LEGAL, as long as the rules for dismissal are followed… The assertion is that Bush/Gonzo did NOT follow those rules…
As I understand it, there are rules that sort of govern the dismissal of people that are to include some reason for dismissal… not just because they disagree with White House policy… especially when it comes to other candidates, etc.
Slogging through the blogosphere, ran across this article. Interesting; wonder how the sat phone call went, really.
http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/iraq-call-to-get-rid-of-top-general/2007/07/29/1185647743545.html
Clinton’s dismissal of all of the attorneys is simple: New Boss… New CIC… New staff… THAT is a normal process… And it can hardly be compared to what has happened with these 8 or 9 people… ONLY the 8 or 9 who werent playing lap dogs to the Prez.
Capn WTF did you just say? When you stop drinking and/or taking drugs or start sounding coherent at all, I might respond to you with some kind of dialogue. You simply have not exhibited the possibility of doing so.
Have a nice snort.
correction “rich people post more often . . . “
Anyone solve the Social Security/Medicare greatest Fiscal Crisis hitting America the other day?
Capnamerica,
The Bill of Rights already protects everyones freedom of speech. It is neither deserved nor given.
The WE Blog allows us all to share that here. Hardly Socialism.
Let me speak for every thinking person on the entire blog when say with all due respect
F OPosted by: CapnAmerica | August 01, 2007 at 12:18 PM
So we can say that this WEBLOG is SOCIALIST! because it gives everyone equal opportunity for a voice even though they don’t DESERVE an equal opportunity for a voice. Think about it.
Posted by: CapnAmerica
This guy is totally unstable…..
Probably postal.
Chas,
As you understand it… could you show us the “rule” which Bush broke?
Hey CapN… How come your name on your posts lately isnt in Blue and Underlined like it used to be???
CapnamericaThe WE Blog allows us all to share that here. Hardly Socialism.Posted by: Nathan | August 01, 2007 at 12:37 PM
Don’t go trying to confuse the Captain of the Blog anymore than it already is.
RR–
Relax. It’s my attempt at a joke. Sorry if it didn’t work for you.
Have a PBR, on me.
Max–
Did you ever see that old “Star Trek” episode in which the Enterprise crew makes a computer blow up by showing that its belief system was inherently contradictory.
Your idolization of the free-market system and irrational hatred of everything outside that magical-religious belief system is inherently contradictory.
Nathan I already said that once… But, for your slow thinking benefit, I will say it again… Now watch closely…
Bush/Gonzo fired those attorneys, allegedly for job performance deficiencies… ALL of them have testified that those charges are pure fiction… and that they were fired because they disagreed with White House policies… The “rule” broken is bogus firing practices…
That might be legal for this administration… But Gonzo is on the hot seat for lying about why they were fired…
Now is that S L O W enough for you??? They were fired without CAUSE… Not because they werent doing their job… Go read the testimonies of the 8/9 people in Congress…
could that rule be that Clinton owed allot of people for political favors and Bush only owed 8 people for political favors..
remember this is the Guy that used one of our national sybols as a hotel to the highest bidder..
As I understand it, there are rules that sort of
Posted by: Chas. | August 01, 2007 at 12:32 PM
Oh so now we are not concerned with the rule of law. Chas listen to yourself:
“as I understand it”"rules”"sort of”
Does this sound like a basis for a criminal investigation?
Chas,
That is fine and dandy. What I asked for was for you to show us this “rule” he broke.
I see your typing, but no rule.
A source? A link? A quote from the law?
What law was broken?
CLINTON FIRED NINETY SOME PEOPLE “WITHOUT CAUSE”…
Oh my gawd!!!!
But, but all of them testified they were doing a good job. DUH!!!
If he lied, he should pay. But Big deal they were fired. They don;t have to have cause. They were political appointeees. THey serve at the pleasure of the president. Period. THey can be fired “at will”Same as me, same as millions of salaried people across the nation
Ummm RR — YEP cause the criminal investigation isnt about the firings… it is about the perjury surrounding it… Sort of like the Libby case… PERJURY is a crime in a Congressional hearing…
But still there are questions about HOW these people were fired, and why people like Rove had a hand in it… He surely cannot be said to work for the Justice dept. unless he is another “4th branch” of the government unto himself…
Chas–
Actually, they were fired because they WERE doing their jobs.
That is, prosecuting crimes and NOT prosecuting NON crimes.
BushCo wanted them to prosecute NON crimes (which is in itself a crime).
The Executive Branch–which is tasked with upholding the Constitution and the law based on it–asked these prosecutors to COMMIT CRIME and when they didn’t, fired them.
That’s what every thinking person is upset about.
Chas–
Actually, they were fired because they WERE doing their jobs.
That is, prosecuting crimes and NOT prosecuting NON crimes.
BushCo wanted them to prosecute NON crimes (which is in itself a crime).
The Executive Branch–which is tasked with upholding the Constitution and the law based on it–asked these prosecutors to COMMIT CRIME and when they didn’t, fired them.
That’s what every thinking person is upset about.
LJ — it must be a big deal if even Republicans in Congress are calling for the resignation or even impeachment of the Atty.Gen. — That should be a major clue here… If there is nothing wrong going on, there wouldnt be such a frenzy on the Hill to get rid of Gonzo…
Time to go mow.
Ok so you can fire people for no reason as long as you fire them all..and a legitamate reason like Job performance is just not a good reason???? ok that makes since….
lets see the Fired Attorneys testified that they weren’t fire because they were crappy at their job.. are you kidding me.. Do you think thwey would stand up and say yaeh I suck at my job I should be fired.. Come on people.. get a clue..
Thanks CapN… thats what I am trying to say here… had a long nite, and the keyboard isnt spitting out words so good yet!!LOL BTW, good to see the blue underlined name again!!
Chas,
You always try to say something. It seems too many times now you always start by saying something wrong though.
You should think wisely about the things you type before you do.
It would prevent you from having to back pedal so much.
BG — read up… what CapN said… thats the issue here…
They WERENT fired for job performance — They were fired because they wouldnt prosecute NON crime cases…
I’m not back pedaling at all, Nathan… And I havent said anything wrong either… Apparently things are wrong to you, when they disagree with your line of thinking… like there is JUST your line of thinking is right… hey, like Dick Cheney!!
And I suppose we will have to ask and never recieve anything showing proof of what Capn asserts?
Nathan, its all over the news… AND the beloved Congressional Record… if you care to have a look….
The many-named ‘Kansas’ again posts a very unreliable source, Steven Milloy, at top of thread.
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Steven_J._Milloy
For example:Milloy: “As photovoltaic cells are only 10 percent efficient and have seen no breakthroughs in 30 years,”
Convential cells have about a 16% efficiency, and new sliver cells are about 20%.
Plus’New Solar Photovoltaic Cell Efficiency Record: 42.8% ‘http://www.futurepundit.com/archives/004418.html
‘Fatally flawed attack on renewables by Jesse Ausubel’http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2007/7/25/163621/797
Also, nuclear power is more expensive than other solutions, especially higher efficiency… and the plants take a long time to build.
Ok Chas,
Lets review…
“The “rule” broken is bogus firing practices…”
I ask for you to show me this rule? No reply.
Chas-
AG AG has to go. He is a liability, and likely a perjurer. Unfortunately, about nothing. US Attorneys serve at the will of the Prez. He fired them —Big deal. It is only a big deal because th press and the media smell blood. They could give a rats ass abuout the attorneys, they are out for blood. AAnd, I would like to see EVIDENCE that they were fired because they refused to commit a crime by prosecuting none cases. Another BS story? I could have missed it, but I doubt it. Anyway, Bush will soon be gone. The Dems will control the WH, The Senate, And the House. Maybe the “do things diffrent” dems will actually do that.
Capn, your idolization of Socialism, even tetering on Communism, is abhorent to everything America has stood for in the last 231 years.
If this is to be a Liberal-owned country soley for the purpose of justifying the redistribution of wealth from those who earned it, to those who did not, then guess what ClarkCapn, you got more than me to debate here or anywhere else.
Nathan, was Social Security one of your top issues?
I’ve been out a few days, just wondering if you got on to some of the Social Insecurity threads?
Ummm RR — YEP cause the criminal investigation isnt about the firings… it is about the perjury surrounding it… Sort of like the Libby case… PERJURY is a crime in a Congressional hearing… Posted by: Chas. | August 01, 2007 at 12:49 PM
How did the investigation start if there wasn’t a crime to begin with. Man this is just like the perjury case against Libby.. got nothing.. So we make up crap..
LJ, as I posted long ago, this matter is evidence of the incompetence of Mr. Gonzales to hold the office of Attorney General. This doesn’t mean he’s an incompetent attorney, merely he’s not competent to be Attorney General.
This issue arose, from the best of my recollection, of certain public statements made at the time of the “firings”, which, in part, suggested the same resulted from the unsatisfactory job performance of those “fired”, to which those folks took issue. An unnecessary explanation, given “serve at the pleasure” status of all political appointees. However, once the horse was out of the barn, the investigations began, and the results to date are as we know it.
And the Democratic Congress continues to spin its wheels attacking Bush, instead of solving the glaring problems facing America.
Who to vote for in 2008? Hmmm….
This is the best explanation I have ever read about the DLC, Triangulation, and what it all means.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132×3418039
VT-
I would agree with your post. Gonzalez is certainly incompetent, if not a perjurer. He needs to go. Isn;t the first two rules of testifying, or even public speaking
1) speak truthfully2) say only what is necessary to answer the question
Gee Farmgirl, do you have a legitamite NEWS site to quote? Or just the Democrat Propaganda site?
Hey Max? Dont like it? Dont click.
Sometimes I just post from DU to piss you guys off. I see it’s working.
But like I said, dont like? Dont click! In fact, please do me the honor of scrolling right by my posts. Please.
In the meantime, I’ll just walk on by…
Link to a blog maintained by a self-described “crusty trial lawyer”, and his thoughts on the current Attorney General:
http://beldar.blogs.com/beldarblog/law_2007/index.html
LJ, those are two good rules to which to adhere when speaking in public or testifying as a witness.
Anybody can post blogs, editiorials, and comments from demunderground. Big Deal. Just another blog. Means noooothing. Try posting news
Ok farmgirl, I’ll just walk on bye your Democratic Propaganda sites.
Yep, I think the waaaaaaaambulance is on the way….
Picking flyshit outta pepper is what we can expect from the Democrats – latest eg the attacks on the Attorney General.
What are Democrats gonna do about:
Iraq?Social Security Fiscal Crisis?
Answers:
Run.Raise Taxes.
Oh, and just so y’all know, not even the rich can pay for the Social Security Fiscal Crisis that will bring $20+ Trillion in debt to our kids and grandkids.
Gosh LJ, would you be trying to “shut me up”, and deny me my right to speak my beliefs? Contrary to your protestations and affirmations yesterday?
hehehehehehehehehhehe…….
Ok, now I really AM going to walk on by. Right after I invite LJ to scroll over my posts since he clearly cant tolerate disagreement with his viewpoint.
Contrary to his protestations and affirmations yesterday.
Oh, and to point out the obvious, that is the meme bullet coming back to you after bouncing off the mirror.
Walk on bye, walk on bye.
Farmgirl, you think Socialists like you can afford to not-work after all us working people retire?
Farmgirl, you are bloggin all day long, of course you do not work for a living.
Must be nice. I’ll be retiring soon. See who pays for you then!
Y’all should read the link. It isn’t Demo hooplah, it is Demo downfall.
Yeah, I wish everyone would read the Demo propaganda.
The headlines for the Democratic Underground look very similar to the Soviet anti-American propaganda from years ago.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/
What are the Democrats FOR?
You’re such a dumbass. Posting on what you refuse to read. THERES logic for ya !!!!
hee hee hee Solly, THAT’s why I posted it. Thinking people will read it and get it. It is critical of the democrats. But these guys shoot first and ask questions later.
Thanks for getting it Solly!!!
hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee
heheheheheheheh. I’m self employed max. An entrepreneur. Just the kinda person you wingnuts claim to love.
I employ people. I pay half the payroll taxes, all the property taxes, sales taxes, and when there is a profit? I pay income tax.
THAT is how I can “blog all day” as you mistakenly said. We’ve actually had rain the last three days, so I’ve had more blogging time than usual. But there are days that go by that I dont blog at all.
But of course, being a “regular” here, you already know that.
Ad hominem much?
Y’all ought to dig a little deeper into the ’secret trade deal’. Look up ‘New World order’ while you’re at it. America is being sold out from under us. Has been for over 20 years. But let’s ply party politics instead. Keeps the ‘informed’ masses busy while the rest of the sheeple just go to their 8-5’s and expect their gov’t to do what’s best for them.
SolDevVB-
I told you, and the rest, the Matrix is real. The puppetmasters laugh while the little people tear at each others throats. And deumunderground? just another blog.Plays into the hands of the puppetmasters,if not in control by the same.
Right you are Solly. And just to piss’em off again…
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103×298210
Doesn’t bother anybody here, we see the same stuff on CNN and MSN. everynite..
Try this one then…
http://www.foreignaffairs.org/20070301faessay86203/daniel-w-drezner/the-new-new-world-order.html
http://www.rightwingnews.com/mt331/2007/02/my_latest_townhall_column_libe_1.php
So much for the booming economy.Manufacturing growth rate slows; fewer private jobs By Herbert Lash
32 minutes ago
NEW YORK (Reuters) – Manufacturing grew at a slower rate in July as a drop in new orders spawned caution among factory managers, and U.S. private employers probably added jobs last month at their slowest rate in four years, according to two reports on Wednesday.
ADVERTISEMENTIn the key housing sector, demand for mortgage applications slid last week to the weakest level in more than five months, an industry group said, suggesting the beleaguered U.S. housing sector has yet to hit bottom.
But in a bright sign for housing, pending sales of previously owned U.S. homes rose at their fastest pace in more than three years in June, a real estate trade group said.
“Manufacturing is showing some signs of at least a temporarily slowing economy here,” said Andrew Richman, a managing director at SunTrust’s personal asset management division in West Palm Beach, Florida.
But the economic news was taking a back seat to investor concerns about the subprime mortgage market, Richman said.
“If we saw home sales this strong without the subprime story going on, you would see bonds sell off,” he said.
U.S. stock indexes swung wildly between positive and negative territory in Wednesday’s session, with stocks falling on the data while the dollar was mixed. U.S. Treasury debt prices slipped on relative stability in global equities after Tuesday’s rout.
The Institute for Supply Management said its index of national factory activity fell last month to 53.8, its lowest since March, and down from 56.0 in June.
Analysts had been looking for a more modest dip to 55.5, although any reading above 50 still points to expansion.
Consumer spending eased in the second quarter because of the housing sector’s slump and rising gasoline costs. Analysts said factories could be responding to what might be perceived as a lack of demand.
ANEMIC JOB GROWTH
Hey, GMC, and any other lawyers around, I didn’t know cy pres applied to political questions. :-)
http://www.kansas.com/news/updates/story/137239.html
You know, maybe gay “marriage” is ok with me. That way, they can be together and not infect normal people with their sickness. And, if they’re together (and not with normal people) they can’t reproduce and spread their sickness on to new generations of evil beings.
But damn, there’s still the problem of allowing these “people” to adopt. I feel so sorry for those kids.
I say what most people think but are afraid to post it.
I know it’s “cool” to say how much you like the homos….but we all know that’s bull.
Yeah…it’s also real cool to defend the homos too…makes you proud.
walk on by…
Sodomites in a legalized mockery of marriage will still predictably be notoriously promisuous. In fact, many sodomite men are married to women and sneak out periodically to cruise public toilets looking for brief encounters in deviancy.
Have you ever bought gas in Canada? I did and damn if I can figure out this! First you got to figure out what Canadian dollars are worth in American dollars then you got to convert litres to gallons. All I know is it cost more than it does in Detroit but I ain’t gonna get off the expressway to fill up in Detroit because I don’t have a death wish.
The troll has gained 40+ pounds in only one month.
“Even after eating all that I appear to be 200 pounds shy of the 400 pound mark. :)”
Posted by: Republican | July 01, 2007 at 08:43 PM
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/06/sicko-offers-gl.html#comment-74582796
“Now I’m at 240ish with a (never mind the size) waist.”
Posted by: Kansas | August 01, 2007 at 03:48 PM
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/08/give-bonds-his-.html#comment-78085860
Why are you so interested in me cosmos?
Are you homosexual?
Many-named troll,
No, and I only pointed out that you quickly gained 40+ pounds. Or did you lie, again?
And you seem to have a problem, as Kate’s post suggests,http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/08/war-critics-imp.html#comment-78099630
Oh, I’m not going to figure it out for cosmos when I stated my weight as an off-the-cuff approximate.
cosmos would rather continue to call me a liar on a daily basis and lose his ability to post on the We Blog.
Keep it coming cosmos, I’m tracking each and every post you make.
FU, FU!
Many-named troll,
So 400 – 200 = 240ish “as an off-the-cuff approximate”?
Are you claiming that you never, ever posted a lie on the WE Blog?
Did you find the other 40 different days that you claimed I posted?http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/07/open-thread-728.html#comment-77561878
Over 900,000 Mattel toys, made in China are being recalled. Looks like China’s going to have to do another execution!
More re Jesse Ausubel’s claims via Steven Miloy, at top of this thread,
http://environment.newscientist.com/article/dn12346-renewable-energy-could-rape-nature.html
” ‘Heretical demagogue’However, other experts who have seen Ausubel’s study are highly critical, both of its conclusions and its inflammatory rhetoric….Turner [of the US government's National Renewable Energy Laboratory] says that even if the US got all of its power from solar energy, it would still need less than half the amount of land that has been paved over for highways. Further, it need not take up additional land. “We could get a quarter of our energy just from covering rooftops of existing buildings,” he says. ”
More at link.
“The only thing we have to fear is fear itself — nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror which paralyzes needed efforts to convert retreat into advance.
Franklin D. Roosevelt, First Inaugural Address, Mar. 4, 193332nd president of US (1882 – 1945)”
There will always be terrorists. Always have been, always will.
I am not about to set idly by and let my freedoms slowly erode for a meager feeling of ’safety’ from terrorism. My freedoms, and those espoused in the US Constitution are more important than any measure of safety that can be gained by taking any of those freedoms away.
Funny, but I dont think it is cosmos who is on the verge of being banned.
And kansas repuke would have been banned long ago if the WE didnt enjoy his posting.
OK Chas, why did Clinton fire ALL of his attorney’s could it be political favors needed paid back??
Posted by: BG | August 01, 2007 at 11:25 AM
Ummmm — BG & RR — You keep trying to make a big deal out of Clinton firing HIS attorneys… 90 of them you say…
He DID fire 90 US Attys at the beginning of HIS TERM…. But your fallacy of the whole argument is that they werent HIS US Attys…. since they were still in place from the preceding President…. So, he fired them, to put in HIS own staff of Attorneys… NOT for some cockamamy reason that you suggest about paybacks, or anything of that sort… Why in Sam Hill would he want to keep on the Attorneys of the prior administration??? They are HIS positions to appoint!!
DUH!!!
Chas,
The AGs work at the president’s pleasure. They can be hired or fired for any reason whatsoever. The ONLY problem is that AG AG gave a reason for the firings. The question never should have been asked or answered. The ONLY illegality here is a possible lie. Now you have to prove why the AGs were fired.
Everything else is smoke and mirrors.