It wasn’t any one act of Attorney General Alberto Gonzales that sealed his fate — his resignation, announced today. His serial missteps on terrorist surveillance, U.S. attorney firings, political hiring and more, compounded by his inability to explain himself to the satisfaction of Congress, had eroded the credibility of his Justice Department to the point that even Republicans were no longer defending him. One comfort — that the president decided against nominating Gonzales to the U.S. Supreme Court, where he might have served for life.
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Wheee! Thanks, editors!
Fredo has left the building. But he’ll be coming to a hearing room near you!
OK. It’s Republican amnesty time.
Now that he’s no longer in office and no longer has to be defended at all costs out of partisan loyalty, CF2K is curious: what DO Republican folks think of Fredo?
Don’t hold back. You’ll feel better. CF2K promises.
(Weird. Signed in as CF2K but posting as CF. Typepad is confused.)
bore
You should have heard the yelp I let out when I read the news.
Now if only Bush would be smart enough to… oh heck, nevermind. Sigh.
CF, Why are you still on that AG AG topic? Didn’t you hear Michael Vick is going to talk!?
Look, look there is another bright and shiny object!
This is just what those evil Democrats do — drag things onandon. Poor, innocent AG AG is gone. Can’t you just be satisfied and stop with the persecution!?
/ sarcasm
Dems pretty much run Gonzo out of town on a rail and poster Kansas says “bore”?Where’s the outrage? We got one of yours. Isn’t this where you Republicans start yellping about Clinton getting a BJ?
Nope.
Linda I am curious at this point. What do you think will be gained by taking this investigation forward as CF seems to want to do? I have no doubt it will go forward. What will be solved?
lindainks55,
Ha ha! Good one.
However, the collective tolerance for bright and shiny objects has been sufficiently dulled that brighter and shinier objects are now required. Like, for example, Owen Wilson’s unfortunate suicide attempt.
http://www.showbuzz.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/08/27/people/main3206286.shtml
There. Now, what was that about Gonzo? Gonzo who?
I hope we can find the truth. Someone has to have a better memory than AG AG! I hope if there were crimes committed those who may be guilty will be held accountable. I also hope the American people can find some way to trust in our system of justice again. I hope we can have a system where justice isn’t avoided by quitting and running away. I want the investigations stepped up, not stopped! bushco have done much to put justice in question.
I’ll add just for you since most people already know this is an opinion board but I’ve heard you lecture others on posting without proof — all this is my opinion. When I post another’s opinion I will list where it can be read in its entirety.
It shouldn’t come as a surprise that Alberto is gone. Two weeks ago Karl Rove put in his resignation. It was all but certain that Gonzales would be next! What I didn’t like was all the footdraging by Alberto. He knew he had violated several rules regarding the firing of members of the justice department. Hiding behind that ole line “serving at the pleasure of the President.” didn’t fly with a number of Senators in congress including members of his own party. When his testimony clashed with testimony from some of his co workers you knew the writing on the wall….”Don’t let the door hit you on the way out, Alberto!”
Nothing of substance here, just amused me to see how Shel Silverstein’s poetry is applied:
http://tinyurl.com/2e3bdb
Linda if I make a bold statement of fact and don’t support it please call me on it. If I write IMOHO then of course that is what it is.
I will ask again what will be accomplished by wasting more of congresses time on this investigation? At the end of the day the judges were dismissed at the pleasure of the prez. That is legal. It can be made to look suspect but in MOHO won’t be shown to be illegal.
This congress has over 82% of the country on their backs to do something positive. I think we should call for their dismissal. After all AGs weren’t that bad.
I thought I answered your question. I told you what I hoped would be accomplished. I don’t feel any of what I hope for would be a waste of time. Since you do I guess we disagree. Imagine that!
I don’t call people on stuff very often. We all usually post our opinions as our facts. After all, we all have an opinion and most of them have been stated before and often stated better.
Linda I just question statements that contain phrases like ‘the American people think’ ‘ The American people want’ etc… If that is wrong then I am wrong. If you have something more specific let me know. I do also question posters that constantly call others liars with no substantiation. This happens a lot. I do have strong opinions but that is what I thought the board is all about.
You said you wanted the truth. What truth would that be? It has been established that conversations were held. Plans were made to replace the judges. Their actions were unsatisfactory to the administration. Are these the truths we are after?
poetry hmmm?
=======There once was a Judge from TexasWhose name appeared on the AG prospectus.
It was Gonzales, a man of color and decidely HispanicBut he was Bush’s White House Counsel and the Democrats begin to panic.
First it was Obama commenting in 2005 on the choice.He said paraphrasing, “I hope you speak for all and not just the Republican Voice!”
Gonzales replied in the affirmative to Senator ObamaThen the Barak made another speech in classical Senate Floor drama.
It was decided that Gonzales could lead the DOJ and could be fair
…but then out of the partisan ooze came guttural sounds and made all wince with a politically driven scare.
It was the Demons of the Judicial committee, Schumer and the fleshy faced Leahy, the talking eyebrow chair,
You fired Democrats! Fine attorneys all!
You had an agenda! You dropped the Ball!
Proof is in their firing when don’t need any evidence!
We have George Bush to blame for this, the ickiest of Presidents!
So off they went, the NY Blur and the Senator of ponderous eyebrow proportions
Accusations from the left, the press and all sorts of politically driven distortions
You lied! You can’t remember! You claim no recollection!You didn’t report to us! You didn’t perform to our standard of perfection!
The quiet AG listen and nodded, then ended the drama.
Thanks for the party, but I got to go back home now
and by the way…(Gonzo quietly said,)”Yo mama!”
The best part of the AG AG saga, by far, has to be that he waited until the last week of August to resign.
If he’d have resigned at the beginning of the month instead, then Augustus Stupidus could have just appointed his replacement. That appointment would have taken the administration through the remainder of its term without having confirmation hearings.
AG AG just handed the administration yet another headache.
Pull up the popcorn, folks, this should become high entertainment before long. And big mega thank you’s to Fredo for that!
LOL
Pedant,
Wait–really? Hadn’t heard that.
Do you have link or somesuch? Not that I doubt you. Rather, it’s just as you say–it’s TOO perfect. But when it comes to this “Administration,” nothing is so outlandish that it is outside the realm of possibility.
Read over on cnn.com’s Political Ticker that notwithstanding all the buzz earlier today that Chertoff will NOT be the nominee for AG. Given the number of apparent leaks, etc., wonder what went wrong with this?
Now why would Gonzo resign? The Bush regime insists that he did nothing wrong so is he just planning on spending more time with Rove’s family? Maybe he needs to catch up on reading those volumes of “How to improve your memory” books. Perhaps he just picked up a copy of “Law for Dummies” and wanted to find out what this attorney job was all about.
Gonzalez going wont affect much. There is still five people on Supreme Court just like him.
High Entertainment is what you want from Congress?
I’d like to see them tackle some big issues like:
-Resolve the Social Security Fiscal Crisis
-Take action to make American Energy Independent.
-Maintain A Strong Defense for America.
-Resolve the Illegal Immigration Problem.
Entertainment! Yeah, and that explains the way Libs vote too.
VT,
Indeed. I smells a recess appointment.
Is Harriet Myers still looking for a job? Looks like Bush found an opening for her.
He lived the American dream, and created an American nightmare.
Max, I agree we have another DO NOTHING Congress on our hands. Unless you count investigations, they can’t seem to keep their campaign promises:
Congress left with few easy paths on spending bills
After the November elections, Democrats promised to restore order to a budget process many had thought broken down.After they took power in January, Democrats pushed through nine spending bills from the previous year that Republicans had failed to pass; passed a budget resolution for the next fiscal year that Congress had failed to pass in three out of the last five years, and said they would move 12 new spending bills for fiscal 2008 individually and on time.The last part of that equation is highly unlikely. The end of the fiscal year is less than three months away, and most government agencies are likely going to have to operate on stopgap appropriations well into the winter if current trends hold up.The backlog of work remaining — the House still must pass six spending bills, the Senate has all 12 to go — summons up visions of the dreaded “O” word that many in both parties had vowed never again to utter.”Massive, massive omnibus appropriations bill, with both sides giving a little, everybody unhappy, everybody blaming the other,” is the result one former veteran appropriations aide predicted. “I think it’s just written on the wall like the Ten Commandments — thou shalt wait until the end of the year, thou shalt wrap everything up in one big ball, thou shalt pass it, then complain about it.”
http://www.govexec.com/story_page.cfm?filepath=/dailyfed/0707/070907cdam1.htm
I might have been confused. It was the Iraqi Congress that has specific enumerated objectives.
The US Congress hasn’t done that since 1995.
How about Jenna Bush for AG?
She’s as qualified as anybody I suppose.
The US Congress hasn’t done that since 1995.Posted by: Max
Maybe that’s why the Iraqi Congress could afford to take a fall break.
I realize that there were a few memory lapses on the part of Alberto but he wasn’t covering up anything illegal. He wasn’t actually accused of anything actionalble.
Lest we forget:
Number of times that Clinton figures who testified in court or before Congress said that they didn’t remember, didn’t know, or something similar.
Bill Kennedy 116Harold Ickes 148Ricki Seidman 160Bruce Lindsey 161Bill Burton 191Mark Gearan 221Mack McLarty 233Neil Egglseston 250Hillary Clinton 250John Podesta 264Jennifer O’Connor 343Dwight Holton 348Patsy Thomasson 420Jeff Eller 697
FROM THE WASHINGTON TIMES: In the portions of President Clinton’s Jan. 17 deposition that have been made public in the Paula Jones case, his memory failed him 267 times. This is a list of his answers and how many times he gave each one.
I don’t remember – 71I don’t know – 62I’m not sure – 17I have no idea – 10I don’t believe so – 9I don’t recall – 8I don’t think so – 8I don’t have any specific recollection – 6I have no recollection – 4Not to my knowledge – 4I just don’t remember – 4I don’t believe – 4I have no specific recollection – 3I might have – 3I don’t have any recollection of that – 2 I don’t have a specific memory – 2I don’t have any memory of that – 2I just can’t say – 2I have no direct knowledge of that – 2I don’t have any idea – 2Not that I recall – 2I don’t believe I did – 2I can’t remember – 2I can’t say – 2I do not remember doing so – 2Not that I remember – 2I’m not aware – 1I honestly don’t know – 1I don’t believe that I did – 1I’m fairly sure – 1I have no other recollection – 1I’m not positive – 1I certainly don’t think so – 1I don’t really remember – 1I would have no way of remembering that – 1That’s what I believe happened – 1To my knowledge, no – 1To the best of my knowledge – 1To the best of my memory – 1I honestly don’t recall – 1I honestly don’t remember – 1That’s all I know – 1I don’t have an independent recollection of that – 1I don’t actually have an independent memory of that – 1As far as I know – 1I don’t believe I ever did that – 1That’s all I know about that – 1I’m just not sure – 1Nothing that I remember – 1I simply don’t know – 1I would have no idea – 1I don’t know anything about that – 1I don’t have any direct knowledge of that – 1I just don’t know – 1I really don’t know – 1I can’t deny that, I just — I have no memory of that at all – 1
I guess getting BJs in the Oval Office causes memory loss.
Hnak
Hank you know only libs are allowed memory lapses. After all we learned that lesson with Libby. He couldn’t remember things like Tim Russert so of course he was wrong. When will you ever learn?!?!
There you go Republicans, always pointing to the past to justify your man’s actions today.
Paula Jones? The freak from Arkansas? Yeah, I’d have trouble remembering something that never happened too. For some reason I don’t think the Republicans lapse of memory is Bill Clinton’s fault but Republicans will blame him for everything.
Doug, doug, doug why do you protest so much? Will this denial by the left about their boy Bill ever be over?
What happens when Hill gains the prezidency and no longer needs Bill. When she kicks him to the curb and tell the world the ‘lies’ were all true what will you do then?
She will need to do this to get her second term. Sympathy votes you know. The poor women voters that will think she just found out the truth about Bill are numerous.
I think I’ll start writing that book now. It should be ready for publication by then.
Hey ksgrm!
I know, and there were enough discrepancies with Russert’s memory and testimony that he could have been up on the same charges as Libby.
But, if you can’t get Russert on his ridiculous hair, you can’t get him on anything.
Hank
“I realize that there were a few memory lapses on the part of Alberto but he wasn’t covering up anything illegal.Posted by: Hank Price | August 27, 2007 at 01:58 PM ”
How can you know that nothing illegal was being covered up?
Hey brian,
Because brian, my logic challenged friend, he hasn’t been accused of anything and there is no evidence that will eventually lead to anything.
Typical liberal thinking, Republicans are guilty until proven innocent and Democrats are never guilty, just persecuted for political reasons.
Hank
I don’t know if it will do any good, but I will try to explain.
You said nothing illegal was being covered up. I asked how you could know that. You said you knew that nothing illegal was being covered up because he was not accused of anything.1. The fact that he was not accused of anything does not mean that nothing illegal was being covered up. It is quite possible that something illegal was being covered up but he was not accused of it (maybe it was covered up really well.)1A. Unless you were intimately involved you would have no way to know what was being covered up. Failure to issue charges for something does not mean it did not happen.
“Typical liberal thinking, Republicans are guilty until proven innocent and Democrats are never guilty, just persecuted for political reasons.
Posted by: Hank Price | August 27, 2007 at 02:48 PM ”
What a load of Sh*t
“At the end of the day the judges were dismissed at the pleasure of the prez. That is legal.”
Yeah, right, Grm. It’s also legal to burn the American flag. It’s legal to put a crucifix in a glass of urine and call it “art.” It’s legal to pardon Marc Rich.
But you still howl and moan about it, don’t you.
Not only did BushCo fire those prosecutors because they refused to commit crimes, they then made up back stories to justify their firing decisions.
One fired employee was deemed to be an “absentee landlord” when he was deployed in the flipping Navy RESERVE!
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/04/04/fired.attorneys/index.html
WASHINGTON (CNN) — A federal watchdog agency is investigating whether one of the U.S. attorneys fired in a Justice Department shakeup was punished for missing work to serve in the Navy Reserve, the ex-prosecutor said Wednesday.
David Iglesias, who was the U.S. attorney for New Mexico until February, told CNN that an official in the Office of Special Counsel approached him shortly before his testimony to Congress about the firings in early March.
Among other duties, the office is charged with protecting the job rights of National Guard and Reserve members, some of whom are called away from employers for long periods of time.
Iglesias was one of eight U.S. attorneys fired in a round of dismissals last December. Though all are political appointees who serve at the pleasure of the president, the Justice Department’s initial description of the firings as “performance-related” triggered allegations of improper political influence on pending cases and calls for Attorney General Alberto Gonzales to resign.
Justice later said the appointees had failed to support Bush administration priorities such as immigration enforcement or the death penalty, but admitted one was removed so a former aide to White House political adviser Karl Rove could get the post.
*****
Wow, way to support the troops, Bush. Fire somebody for his involvement in the Reserves and replace him with some jody-puke that never served a day in his life.
The right-wing: no shame. no honor. no scruples.
I don’t see that Mr. Gonzales was enthusiastically enforcing the federal partial birth abortion ban, and didn’t see his agents around Kansas investigating notorious late-term abortionist quacks George Tiller and Leroy Carhart, two of the perhaps 3 or 4 quacks best known for illegal post-viable abortions. I am not disheartened that Mr. Gonzales resigned, if we can get a pro-life AG with a spine.
two of the perhaps 3 or 4 quacks best known for illegal post-viable abortionsPosted by: parkay
Any documents to back that allegation up? Any charges? I don’t see any charges pending for your charge. I didn’t see any from the last State AG either.
I pray we get an AG who is NOT prolife if they have your perverted justice.
I hope we could get an AG that does their freakin job and enforces the laws of our country!They should leave their political leanings and biases at the door when they take the job.
I say if Mr. David Iglesias has proof of this he should come forward with it and not be included as part of a puff hit piece by CNN.
He can make public all of his absences during the time in question and the reasons for each. It sounds like he was indeed an ‘absentee landlord’. Does this mean he wasn’t there? No it simply means that he as there but didn’t do any work.
Why should the administration have to tell him to go after those breaking or not inforcing the law. Hum??? Might just be two sides to this story ya think?
The thesis of the authors of the linked piece is that with Messrs. Rove and Gonzalez gone, the administration is gearing up for its battles with Congress without the baggage represented by the two. Interesting note, the article states that the President was ready to let Mr. Gonzalez go “months earlier”, but personal loyalty overrode in-house recommendations; and, apparently, there has been a problem with finding a successor.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0807/5524.html
Ksgrm . . . two sides of a story?
His side of the story is that he was in the Navy Reserve and the Bush side is . . . uh . . . he missed work.
Sh*t.
You’re proving exactly what I said:
no shame. no honor. no scruples.
Bush is the absentee president, on vacation more than any other, Brownback might be able to give him a run for his money though.
What I would like to know is this: Will the Right wing ever realize that the denial of the left over some of the matters related to Mr. Clinton are only denial, because there is no fact in the accusations? Mr. Price, many of your so-called “memory lapses” are indeed statements by Mr. Clinton of FACT. “I have no knowledge of that” is a statement of FACT, not memory loss. “I dont beleive I did” is a statement of FACT, not memory loss. “I dont think so” and I dont believe so” are statements of FACT, not memory loss.
I also seem to remember one Ronald Reagan, who had a whole lot of answers to questions of, “Well, I just dont remember.”
But I dont suppose that means anything.
VT as a lawyer do you think the opinion piece you posted would be proof of anything. These two journalists gave their opinions of the resignations of AG. These things may or may not happen. They may or may not be true. It is all speculation by liberal journalists.
Cap as usual you read that part of the post you disagreed with. If Mr. Iglasies has right on his side he should present his case. By his own admission 25% of his absences were for the justice department. When I have worked in corp. America an absence from my office didn’t count as an absence if I was on corp business. This part of his post makes no sense. That is why I question the entire statement as speculative.
Nope, ksgrm, the pieces aren’t proof, as to legal proof. No question there. I though it interesting to see what those “inside” had to say from an opinion perspective, especially when the “non-liberal” journalists’ opinions I’ve posted before on this issue tracked very closely on the “political liability” side of things.
Bush had every right to fire the U.S. attorneys for what ever reason. They serve at his pleasure. But the administration and it’s representatives DON’T have the right to lie to congress about the reasons or circumstances of those firings. No matter what the reason, it’s a crime to lie to congress. As many times as the story changed, there’s no question Gonzo lied, IMO.
Dear Das,
Does drinking all that kool-aid keep you up at night going t the bathroom?
Just wondering.
Hank
“I also seem to remember one Ronald Reagan, who had a whole lot of answers to questions of, “Well, I just dont remember.”
But I dont suppose that means anything.”
I think it meant he had Alzheimer’s while he was President.
HOLY COW–Senator Larry Craig (R-ID) pleads guilty to a misdemeanor disorderly conduct, for SOLICITING SEX in a men’s restroom.
“According to the incident report, Sgt. Dave Karsnia was working as a plainclothes officer on June 11 investigating civilian complaints regarding sexual activity in the men’s public restroom in which Craig was arrested.
Airport police previously had made numerous arrests in the men’s restroom of the Northstar Crossing in the Lindbergh Terminal in connection with sexual activity.
Karsnia entered the bathroom at noon that day and about 13 minutes after taking a seat in a stall, he stated he could see “an older white male with grey hair standing outside my stall.”
The man, who lingered in front of the stall for two minutes, was later identified as Craig.
“I could see Craig look through the crack in the door from his position. Craig would look down at his hands, ‘fidget’ with his fingers, and then look through the crack into my stall again. Craig would repeat this cycle for about two minutes,” the report states.
Craig then entered the stall next to Karsnia’s and placed his roller bag against the front of the stall door.
“My experience has shown that individuals engaging in lewd conduct use their bags to block the view from the front of their stall,” Karsnia stated in his report. “From my seated position, I could observe the shoes and ankles of Craig seated to the left of me.”
Craig was wearing dress pants with black dress shoes.
“At 1216 hours, Craig tapped his right foot. I recognized this as a signal used by persons wishing to engage in lewd conduct. Craig tapped his toes several times and moves his foot closer to my foot. I moved my foot up and down slowly. While this was occurring, the male in the stall to my right was still present. I could hear several unknown persons in the restroom that appeared to use the restroom for its intended use. The presence of others did not seem to deter Craig as he moved his right foot so that it touched the side of my left foot which was within my stall area,” the report states.
Craig then proceeded to swipe his hand under the stall divider several times, and Karsnia noted in his report that “I could … see Craig had a gold ring on his ring finger as his hand was on my side of the stall divider.”
Karsnia then held his police identification down by the floor so that Craig could see it.
“With my left hand near the floor, I pointed towards the exit. Craig responded, ‘No!’ I again pointed towards the exit. Craig exited the stall with his roller bags without flushing the toilet. … Craig said he would not go. I told Craig that he was under arrest, he had to go, and that I didn’t want to make a scene. Craig then left the restroom.”
In a recorded interview after his arrest, Craig “either disagreed with me or ‘didn’t recall’ the events as they happened,” the report states.
Craig stated “that he has a wide stance when going to the bathroom and that his foot may have touched mine,” the report states. Craig also told the arresting officer that he reached down with his right hand to pick up a piece of paper that was on the floor.”
http://www.rollcall.com/issues/1_1/breakingnews/19763-1.html
Guess Larry Craig’s proclivities have been an open secret for some time. Here’s an entry from a blog last year:
http://www.blogactive.com/2006/10/senator-larry-craig-whats-with-gay.html
And, is anybody surprised that Senator Craig has been a highly visible and vocal opponent of gay marriage and gay rights generally?
And, BTW ksgrm, it has been my impression from reading “The Politico” over time that it is definitely not a “liberal” publication. It is a matter of opinion there, of course; my opinion is that “liberal” is not an appropriate appellation for “The Politico”.
VT you are probably right about the Politico. At this time though everyone is speculating about what will happen, what has happened, etc… I have found that waiting a few days gives you a better picture of what is actually happening.
More AMMO against Hillary!
Does ANYONE remember the number of firings under Bill Clinton’s Administration (and just what did Hillary say to JUSTIFY those sayings)?
yakrap,We know from the assertions of AGs Kline and Morrison, and from the public records of the grand jury investigation into the January, 2005 botched post-viable abortion death of Christin Gilbert, that abortionist quacks George Tiller, Leroy Carhart, and Kristin Neuhaus commited illegal post-viable abortions. We know from his own advertising that Boulder, CO abortionist quack Warren Hern commits post-viable abortions for no more reason that psychological distress. These are the most prominent abortionist quacks that should have been dodging federal investigators on a daily basis as soon as the federal partial birth abortion ban was signed by President Bush.See Boulder quack Hern abortion mill pagehttp://www.drhern.com/medicalprocedures.asp
Hillary Clinton will protect us from these people instead of Alberto Gonzales?
http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/08/exclusive-us-st.html
http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070808/NATION/108080088/1001
http://washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070809/NATION/108090085/1001
http://washingtontimes.com/functions/print.php?StoryID=20050630-124933-1494r
http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/spiegel/0,1518,358223,00.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/07/05/nterror405.xml
http://www.nysun.com/article/46762
http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/07/fbi-iraqis-bein.html
“Hillary Clinton will protect us from these people instead of Alberto Gonzales?
Posted by: Catherine | August 27, 2007 at 05:18 PM”
I did not know Hillary Clinton was being considered for Attorney General.What a great bi-partisan move if that is the case.
NEWS FLASH: PRESIDENT BUSH NOMINATES HIMSELF AS NEW ATTORNEY GENERAL. SAYS HE WILL STEP DOWN AS PRESIDENT WHEN SWORN IN BY CONGRESS.
IN A RELATED STORY, VICE-PRESIDENT DICK CHENEY SHOOTS PRESIDENT BUSH IN THE FACE WITH A SHOTGUN. SAYS CHENEY, “THAT BASTARD KNEW I WANTED THE JOB.”
BUSH WAS NOT SERIOUSLY INJURED, AS THE GUN WAS LOADED WITH QUAIL-SHOT, WHICH IS A REALLY BAD PUN.
Dy-no-might!
Hillary has been a very active and vocal opponent of Gonzales, and even said that if she was elected, her administration would do *SO* much better than Alberto. Whoever Hillary would pick would still be her puppet to pounce on those she does not like (conservatives, Christians, etc.). Remember her words in the 1990s about how she hated these groups and said she would destroy and eliminate them??? We remember WELL.
Is that right? I sure HOPE so. destroying and eliminating conservatives is good for America!
At least we see your prejudices and hatred. Thank heavens that there are courts who are now putting limits or even stopping some liberal activities, such as a large womens group whose founder loved the Nazis.
Yeah and all sorts of new executive powers to spy on people, invade their privacy, etc. etc.
Conservatives apply their conservatism quite selectively to accrue more and more money and power to themselves. Government is quite right when it protects us from them.
And Gonzo? Heck the only surprise here is bush didn ‘t promote him to some sort of all being minister of justice.
Hey!
Welcome back junior! I see you scraped up enough for bus fare to the library so you could access the WWW.
Hank
How easily you forget what Hillary and other Dem. Senators had proposed in the 1990s…
How easily you forget what Bill Clinton actually did in sidestepping a lot of rules. We saw several examples in the aerospace industry in the western states.
What Queen Hillary and her hubby Bill did outshine everything that Gonzales did.
And speaking of how great “progressive liberals” can be, here’s some ideas that they have now openly stated they support:
The female founder of that large womens group refers to people who are epileptics, feeble-minded, blind, deaf, mute, etc. as:
–> “…this dead weight of human waste…” that is “…the terrific cost to the community…”
This leader says, “‘Constructive’ Eugenics…shows us that we are paying for and even submitting to the dictates of an ever increasing, unceasingly spawning class of human beings who never should have been born at all…”
And then she refers to these problem people this way:
–> “Every single case of inherited defect, every malformed child, every congenitally tainted human being brought into this world is of infinite importance to that poor individual; but it is of scarcely less importance to the rest of us and to all of our children who must pay in one way or another for these biological and racial mistakes.”
She also said that large families should kill some of their children so as to save “resources” for others.
And it’s none other than Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood (and PP has never refuted or contradicted her sayings and teachings).
“such as a large womens group whose founder loved the Nazis.”POSTED BY ANOTHER WHATEVER.
I knew it would come out eventually: The Rush Limburger school O’ the FEMA-NAZI!
“Say, Mildred, did ya here dem Rush taakin’ ’bout them fermer-nazis agains? Dem fermer-nazis gonna tere dis cuntry ter peces wid dem wantin’ da same pay as usuns, da powerfill white guys. Whad dey tink ub nex; day wanna bee da boss?”
Yep, Catherine, keep em in the home and pregnant, huh? Ya got it going on.
Conservatives, especially the Fundamental Christian ones, are a hoot. They bring out the big bad boogeyman – Nazi – and expect everyone to fall over with horror and line up after her beloved leaders – the Republicans.
Catherine – have you failed to remember why the Nazis were able to garner such a stronghold in Germany? It is when their leaders scared everyone into their way of thinking and gave themselves all the power of the government. Does any of this sound familiar as to what has been happening in the last 6 years of total Republican congressional control and Bush/Cheney in the White House?
And the Nazis kept their control because good people kept silent. Well, the majority of Americans are no longer keeping silent about the Bush Administration and the Republicans total control. If you missed the memo, the Republicans lost last fall and they lost big time.
If I remember correctly, any Christian Conservative Republican that was up for re-election were especially booted out by the majority of Americans.
WE are in America and every person has their right to their opinion. You have your opinion and I have mine. But, fortunately, my vote will wipe yours out on election day.
Whoever Hillary would pick would still be her puppet to pounce on those she does not like (conservatives, Christians, etc.)Posted by: Catherine | August 27, 2007 at 05:42 PM
Cathrine, you got anything to back that up?
At least we see your prejudices and hatred.Posted by: Catherine | August 27, 2007 at 05:47 PM
Indeed!
Everybody knows Hillary is in league with the Debbil! An she’s a prostitute! She’d have to be, what with showing off her cleavage. Why, no Republican woman in her right mind would let anyone know they got breasts! Never mind that most Republican women don’t have to worry about it in the first place!It’s a fact that it’s Hillary’s fault that Bill made all those immoral choices because she was holding out on him. Didn’t she ever hear about love, honor, and OBEY? Why, it says right there in the Bible that women should submit as servants to men!
Gonzales Resignation Clears Way for Progress
Monday, August 27, 2007 2:42 PM
Author: Ronald Kessler Article Font Size
The resignation of Alberto Gonzales as attorney general clears the decks so President Bush can push his agenda without needless distractions.
The Bush administration has enough problems and challenges to deal with without the political sideshow that Gonzales had come to represent.
“I believe the AG put his country above his personal interests,” says Brad Blakeman, a former Bush White House aide who heads Freedom’s Watch, a new conservative group. “He knew when Congress returned he would be a distraction, so he said it’s time to move on.”
By all accounts, Gonzales, a Harvard Law School graduate, was an excellent White House counsel. But he clearly had shortcomings managing the Justice Department and testifying in a persuasive fashion to members of Congress.
To be sure, Democrats manufactured a scandal by pouncing on the firing of eight U.S. attorneys to create the impression that the Justice Department and the White House did something improper. In fact, the firings were no more improper than the Clinton administration’s dismissal of 93 U.S. attorneys in 1993.
Like Cabinet officers, U.S. attorneys are political appointees serving at the pleasure of the president. Moreover, a fair reading of the e-mails relating to the firings makes it clear that, rightly or wrongly, the eight were singled out because of job performance.
But what is disturbing about the firings is that, because of the clumsy way they were handled and the subsequent contradictory accounts by the Justice Department, the administration turned Republican allies into enemies and gave the Democrats an opening to concoct a scandal. Even Sen. Arlen Specter, the ranking Republican on the Judiciary Committee, became a Gonzales critic.
More troubling, Democrats used misgivings about Gonzales to inflame the debate over revising the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA). The measure allowed continuation of the government’s longstanding ability to monitor without a warrant calls between terrorists situated in foreign countries.
While the measure was being debated, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Democrats’ disapproval of Gonzales was one of the obstacles preventing progress on the update of the terror surveillance law. The revision finally passed, but House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has vowed to gut the measure even before it expires in February.
The controversial bedside visit Gonzales paid to his predecessor, John Ashcroft, in 2004 to discuss the legality of the administration’s terrorist surveillance program did not help. Democrats have called for a perjury investigation into Gonzales’ testimony on this and other issues.
Gonzales’ father was a construction worker who laid down concrete for freeways in Houston. Later, he got a job as a maintenance worker in a rice mill. Gonzales’ father, mother, and seven other siblings lived in a two-bedroom house in North Houston. In Gonzales’ last semester at Harvard, his father died in an accident at the rice mill. “We didn’t have a telephone until I was a junior in high school,” Gonzales has told me. “We never had hot running water when I lived there. We had cold water. To take baths, we would boil water on a stove and bring the water to the bathtub.”
Thanks to the GI Bill, scholarships, loans, and part-time jobs, Gonzales managed to pay for his education.
“I hope Hispanic voters in the future will remember who appointed the first Hispanic attorney general, and who ran him out of town,” says David Fuller Holt, a former Bush legislative aide. “This is just another head on a platter for congressional Democrats at the expense of actual accomplishments,” Holt says. “I think out in middle America, we never got that engaged in the fight over U.S. attorneys, and that’s probably because it was obviously a political stunt.”
In a brief statement before cameras at the Justice Department, Gonzales said he had met with President Bush on Sunday and informed him of his decision to resign, effective Sept. 17. He did not mention the controversies that pushed him from office.
“I am profoundly grateful to President Bush for his friendship and for the many opportunities he has given me to serve the American people,” Gonzales said.
During brief remarks in Waco, Tex., President Bush said, “After months of unfair treatment, that has created a harmful distraction at the Justice Department, Judge Gonzales decided to resign his position, and I accept his decision.”
Bush added, “It’s sad that we live in a time when a talented and honorable person like Alberto Gonzales is impeding from doing important work because his good name was dragged through the mud for political reasons.”
Possible successors include Frances Fragos Townsend, the assistant to the president for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism, and Michael Chertoff, secretary of Homeland Security.
Hey XXX, J M Walker,
My new toy:
http://www.kimberamerica.com/pistols/ultracarry/
I got it with the night sights and the crimson laser grips. A really sweet, light weight, compact, 1911 .45 ACP.
I know it’s off topic, but . . . what the hell.
Hank
Hank,Sweet weapon! Did you get SS or black matte? 9 round mag? I’m impressed with the size. What’s the recoil like?
WHEN DO I GET TO SHOOT IT?!?!?!?
Hank,Sweet weapon! Did you get SS or black matte? 9 round mag? I’m impressed with the size. What’s the recoil like?
WHEN DO I GET TO SHOOT IT?!?!?!?
Yes Hank, Dave was impressed..and NO, he can’t have one.
Yes Hank, Dave was impressed..and NO, he can’t have one.
Yes Hank, Dave was impressed..and NO, he can’t have one.
haha!
Mary said it three times, so I guess Dave isn’t getting one for sure. :)
Who is Catherine? And is she always this profoundly bigoted? I fail to see any reason for such deep seated bigotry on this Blog.
I’m jealous Hank. I only carry .45 for protection and that new piece of yours would do the trick.
People don’t look for a reason Das.
All they need is an excuse.
Catherine is as new as you are Das. Did you come together?
Kansas,seeing that there are a couple of consecutive multiple posts, I’d surmise there was something wrong with this website.At least briefly.
Black matt and 7 round mag. I’ve fired around 200 rounds and didn’t notice much of a kick. I suppose the short barrel limits the muzzle velocity such that the kick is reduced.
Hank
Hey Mary,
Dave doesn’t seem to want one. He does want to come out and play with me and the boy though. Is that OK, or are we going to have to kidnap him?
Hank
Does anyone think that Ag Ag will show up for work on Sept 18 because he “could not recall” that he had resigned his post?
I am certain Ms. Catherine did not come with me. I am only in this very nice town for a short time. And I like to keep up with the events of the days. It seems that Catherine might have been hier for some time already.
Hey Proudman,
I got it to carry, but I’ll mostly just keep it in the truck or handy in the motor home when traveling.
If your going to carry, it’s always nice to have a caliber that starts off with .4! The laser seems to need adjusted just a little. I’ll get my boy the armorer to help me.
Nothing like having your own personal Marine to aid you in your old age!
Hank
None of you children need to feel sorry for Dave, in the man-with-the-most-toys-wins contest Dave is in the lead in our neighborhood!
Hank
Rhonda, does your liberal drivel ever get old? Yes, Gonzales made mistakes. But it isn’t like Democrat AGs are holier than thou. Remember a guy named Ramsey Clark? The guy who was more crooked than a $3 bill who tried to get the biggest fraud of a Supreme Court justice, Abe Fortas, named as Chief Justice just to screw Nixon!
Rhonda, you are a miserable miscreant who needs to seriously learn to chill out.
Whats wrong Tillerhater, got no disabled girlfriend to knock around anymore, so you come back to bash upon Rhonda?
Hank,Nice! .45 cal and small size? Gotta kick just a bit. Not quite a .50 cal, but then again, what does?
Catherine, perhaps you should learn more about Margaret Sanger instead of the Operation Rescue crap you’ve been spoon fed.
And remember, this is during a time of the world when our own government thought so little of disabled and orphaned children that they used them for horrible experimentation.
God I hate it when boneheads post.
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/about-us/who-we-are/margaret-sanger-planned-parenthood-founder.htm
Hank is having an orgasm just thinking about a gun. How disgusting.
To top that off, he thinks we should be impresses that his boy is in the marines.
Who cares about your gun or your boy.
I see, Parkay has rounded up the OR folk and asked them to come back him up! Right on!
Catherine, did you forget, the Supreme court affirmed that mental health is a valid reason for a late term abortion?
Dear Apophis,
That’s Marine with a capital ‘M’.
And it seems that more than one here cares about my boy and my gun.
Hank
Hey J M,
The boy and I went to a low light close combat pistol class Saturday and we’ve now got a lot to practice on.
Maybe this weekend we can go to the range and shoot a little. I’ve got to haul hay and I’m working around the farmer’s Labor Day activities, but if you can show up on short notice we might get a few targets in.
Hank.
Ms. Political, the article you posted in that link should be a good source for the anti-abortion folks to read. That should answer any questions that they might have about the intentional lying about the founder of one of the world’s great organizations. Thank you!
They won’t Das. They won’t because they intentionally lie about things like this believing that nobody will check into the facts. I’ve even heard them say that it’s perfectly ok to lie when the ends justify the means (to end abortion and birth control).
Dad,
I am still kind of jealous…
You have a better toy than me. I guess I still have my M4 though :)
According to the weather reports, it is 122 degrees in Iraq right now — and the low will be 111!
“Lord, hold our troops in your loving hands. Protect them as they protect us. Bless them and their families for the selfless acts they perform for us in our time of need. “
Two males comparing their guns and trying to outdo one another – why am I not surprised by this?