“Funny how the Root Causes crowd becomes so incurious about the root causes of crime when the suspects are anti-military nutballs and antiwar protesters,” columnist Michelle Malkin wrote. She was referring to the lack of media coverage of the shooting of an Air Force airman in New Jersey by a crazed gunman who reportedly was angry at the U.S. government. Malkin wrote: “What if a soldier had attempted to murder a peace activist over the holidays in order to ‘make a statement’? The (New York) Times would be holding front-page vigil, and Katie Couric’s brow would be furrowed for a week.”
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The guy is clearly a kook just like the Olympic bomber from the other end of the political spectrum.
I wonder how much national coverage the shooting of Tiller got?
Lock ‘em ALL up!
Tim McVeigh anyone?
hey malkin, I know…
Let’s call it a hate crime?
“Let’s call it a hate crime?”
Why not? It’s all pandering anyway.
A peacenik with a gun? Don’t worry the NRA will adopt him as one of their own. Remember the new NRA slogan, “People with guns don’t kill people, it’s just those people getting in the way of the bullets that kill people”.
The shooter was suicidal loony toons. It is not an incident to try to make political hay out of.
Fleetwood-
NRA 4.3 million members BAD special interest group
NEA 3.2 million members GOOD special interest group
ACLU (The ACLU reported over 500,000 members at the end of 2005)VERY GOOD special interest group
And I wonder how many NEA and ACLU members are members of NRA?WHo knows.
Remeber Kent State? How many of those anti war protesters died at the hands of the National Guard?
I think Michelle Malkin has a good point, though perhaps overstated
Kent State was a national tragedy. With many causes. And it was front page and televison news for how long? But what does that have to do with the topic at hand?
I think that was the point Malkin was trying to make, Mary. Everyone knows about that incident. “Four dead in Ohio”.
Let me put this where it belongs. Wrong entry on wrong thread. My bad. sorry.Mary-Special interest groups are no more than people gathering with the same ideas.
NRA 4.3 million members bad special interest group
NEA 3.2 million members good special interest group
ACLU (The ACLU reported over 500,000 members at the end of 2005)good special interest group
So, which could be defined as the SPECIAL interest group. The one with the largest, or smallest, membership?
Littlejohn,
I agree with one aspect of your post - that special interest groups are nothing more than people with similar ideas gathering to promote those ideas.
But I don’t get where you’re going with the “smallest membership” idea - wouldn’t the smallest “special interest” be the individual? And isn’t that where we get to inherent rights and all that? If we start dismissing the smallest “interest” as being somehow less worthy than the largest, I don’t like where that ends.
Tom-
That wasn;t my point. My point was that I am tired of hearing one side saying the politicians on the other side are beholden to “special interest groups” as if it is some small, minority. The NRA, with 4.3 million members, is hardly small. THe ACLU with 500,000, is. IT s an attack word, used by both sides, that is meaningless. I am still not stating what I mean very well. I apologize. All should be heard, you are right, regardless of size.
Littlejohn,
Thanks for the clarification.
I recommend more caffeine.
I recommend more caffeine.
Posted by: Tom | July 12, 2007 at 09:38 AM
Yes. Excellent idea. Lurking until caffeine kicks in
“How many of those anti war protesters died at the hands of the National Guard?”
Go dig out Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young.
Just remenicing, guys. My point was that can goe both ways.
He wasn’t a “peacenik.”
People who believe in peace can’t use violence to attack the opposition.
Doesn’t make sense . . .
Just reminiscing, guys.
Get myself more coffee, my brain is not functioning yet.
“How many of those anti war protesters died at the hands of the National Guard?”
Not nearly enough…there are still infestations in most of academia that hopefully will retire soon then the entire concept of tenure needs to rethought…
Malkin is just the female version of Ann Coulter. Like Ann she doesn’t have any rational or intelligent to say. Moving on….
“Oh, and this week, the trial of Michael Curtis Reynolds began. He’s a Pennsylvania man and al Qaeda sympathizer accused of plotting to blow up U.S. energy installations in order to drive up gas prices and precipitate a U.S. withdrawal from Iraq. In e-mail exchanges with Internet sleuth Shannen Rossmiller, who unmasked the bombing plot, Reynolds called the United States an “accursed country” and said “it isn’t the land of the free, but the home of the new dictators.”
This is what the Leftist Liberals on the WE Blog represent on a daily basis. I bet you could go to every other post on this blog and find those exact or similar words.
her you go CapnAmerica- peacenik that wants to find a nonviolent way to kill BUSH
“Nobel Peace Prize winner Betty Williams came from Ireland to Texas to declare that President Bush should be impeached.
In a keynote speech at the International Women’s Peace Conference on Wednesday night, Ms. Williams told a crowd of about 1,000 that the Bush administration has been treacherous and wrong and acted unconstitutionally.
“Right now, I could kill George Bush,” she said at the Adam’s Mark Hotel and Conference Center in Dallas. “No, I don’t mean that. How could you nonviolently kill somebody? I would love to be able to do that.”
If Ms. Williams doesnt modify her speech, some Reich Winger will violently kill her, just to prove they can…
My great fear is that some of the wild eyed, Coors High, CC wingnuts will arm themselves, and go hunting for illegals, and any others they disagree with… And if that happens, I wonder how it will get spun by the Right??
Are you expressing fear speech Chas? Or is that Lenin in your vest pocket?
I think if they shoot someone they will be charged. Appropriately.
Ummm I cant remembe if its Lenin, or Marx… I need to check that out one of these days…
No, not fear speech… but certainly a concern if you listen to the likes of Michael Savage, or Mark Levin, or some of those other Reich Wing Nuts…
Actually, I think it is Marx… I never liked Lenin all that much… well, except for John Lenin… LOL
Chas-Groucho? or Harpo?
Well, maybe groucho at times… but mainly Karl… LOL
Chas.
I prefer Budweiser, thanks.
What cruel things are said here! The National Guard should have killed more students? How can you think that, let alone write it? Shame. SHAME!
Violent, unthinking kneejerk reactions to to the memories of our national nightmare of Vietnam. Didn’t enough Americans die in out intervention in THAT civil war?
And you criticize “Leftist Liberals???” HA!
David B
Civil War? Vietnam? Check you history.
Well, insert your favorite brand… LOL
4 dead in Ohio - Yeah, that got more press than the 50,000 + who died in Vietnam.
Shows where the morality of the left lie - in the gutter.
Well, insert your favorite brand… LOL
Posted by: Chas. | July 12, 2007 at 12:26 PM
Corona
Well, if BushCo has its way we could still end up with 50,000 more killed in Iraq… Now, wouldnt that be just grand??? NOT!!
KHAN… why the hell do you think people protested the Vietnam debacle??? BECAUSE of so many being killed, for no good reason!!
I wasn’t old enough, but wasn’t it on TV every day?
This war in Iraq is even MORE insane than the Vietnam scandal… And look at what we have now?? Red China is holding some $9 Trillion of OUR national debt… What if they call in our payment?? They were the ones we were supposedly fighting against in Nam… NOW, they are a major ally, thanks in large part to Daddy Bush and Tricky Dicky…
It sure was Sol… And I never attended ONE peace march or rally that was ANTI-Troops… only ANTI-war, or ANTI-government involvement… We had lots of pity on the ones sent there to DIE for no good reason, than government ego… Just like now in Iraq!!
Sensationalism is what makes news. The shock value of a story is what determines where, or if, it will appear as a headline.
The ‘media’ is for-profit, they try to report what they think people will care most about so more people buy their papers and watch or listen to their channels. Sure, some mainstream media outlets are skewed left or right, but not too far from middle. Alternative media outlets may lean way left or way right, but they mostly attract people that already share their views.
Unfortunately, average Americans shoot and kill other average Americans for various reasons everyday. It is not that newsworthy in many locations.
I know some of you on here can remember what Vietnam was called before it was Vietnam… French Indo-China… The French left, because they knewe there was no winning that CIVIL War… Then we went in there, thinking WE could do what the French couldnt do… Guess we were wrong then… the same as we are wrong now in Iraq…
“4 dead in Ohio - Yeah, that got more press than the 50,000 + who died in Vietnam.Shows where the morality of the left lie - in the gutter.Posted by: ***K H A H N*** | July 12, 2007 at 12:29 PM ”
No, you are quite wrong. That shows how desensitized people had become to war violence. When the 49,976th person was killed it was no more newsworthy than the 49,947th.
It is not everyday that the National Guard kills Americans on a college campus, that is shocking and newsworthy.
Where you getting those National Debt figures Chas? I know in the same pocket as Lenin right?
http://www.optimist123.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/2007/04/09/piechart200701.gif
Newsworthy eh Brian?
That is how you classify our dead military as newsworthy?
Shows everyone where your mind set is located.
F U Khahn
Actually, those debt figures are fairly widely known numbers… I am surprised(sort of) that you didnt know that… But China DOES hold $9Trillion of our national debt…
Quote your source Chas. You won’t be able to find that anywhere because you made it up. The total national debt of the U.S. is around 9 trillion.
Evidently you have a dyslexic problem with figures.
No not this time KHAN… if you disagree with me, thats fine… If you think my numbers are wrong, YOU find proof… YOU post it… I am not playing your stupid game today…
Matthew Marren was obviously a mentally deranged individual who chose a particularly despicable way to commit suicide. Malkin herself admits in her story that “Authorities found two suicide notes that ‘were indicative of an individual suffering from mental-health problems.’”
Obviously mental illness is one of the major “root causes” of crime. Therefore, what is the point that this hate-mongerer posing as a journalist is trying to make? And why is it wrong to try to figure out root causes, which seems to be her assumption?
China as of the last figures available were holding about 414 Billion of our total debt.load.http://www.treas.gov/tic/mfh.txt
Just saw this info and am passing it along. Good source to find out who owns us now.
Chas knew he was lying when he posted the national debt figure and how much of it China has.
He’s just too much of a self-indulging conspiratorial hypocrite to admit he was wrong.
Ksgrm–
Thanks for admitting that you were wrong about WMD’s in Iraq.
I accept your gracious apology.
Capn A.
http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/
The national debt “clock” shows the US holding 8.88 Trillion in debt.
Question: if we owe China a lot of money, and if we get in a shooting war with China, as some are worried we will, wouldn’t we just repudiate that debt?
Or would we be at war with a country, but still make our interest payments to them?
However, if China sold all its US bonds, it would precipitate a huge economic melt-down here.
No doubt about that.
How would the sell-off cause a meltdown?
Wouldn’t we just owe debt to someone else?
China can’t force us to buy back the bonds before the scheduled maturity date, can they?
China selling off even one fourth of the U.S. bonds they hold is equivalent to them taking a gun to their own market’s head and committing suicide.
This would have a huge impact on the Chinese economy, because the movers and shakers of Wall Street would have less capital to buy Chinese goods.
Less capital for buyers of Chinese goods means impending doom for the Chinese market.
Not only that, the Chinese interest rate would have to rise to keep from over inflating their own currency.
It ain’t gonna happen unless the Chinese are total idiots, which I don’t think they are.
Well, KHAN, I see you had to get somebody else to look it up for you… Even THAT amount quoted by Ksgrmm is BAD enough… and yes, China could call the debt, and we would be in serious trouble!!
KHAN — Chas was not lying… as I said before, that is what I heard… 414 Billion is bad enough… All I told YOU was that I wasnt going to look it up today… YOU can look it up, which was done FOR you… nuff said…
The bonds we sell to China are not for a specific term, is that what you’re saying?
Because if it’s a ten year bond, say, you can’t go to the issue before then and demand your money ahead of schedule.
You may sell the bond to someone else, or the original issuer may choose to redeem it early, but neither is the same as the ability to “call the debt.”
I didn’t get anyone to post that data Chas.
You just like to make crap up and then refuse to acknowledge that you were wrong, wrong-headed and in the wrong political party that is totally vacant of right-minded thinkers.
I didnt SAY that YOU got someone to post it for you… I said somebody posted it, and that you didnt go look it up!!! YOU learn to read… I am NOT playing your stupid games ANY MORE on this Blog… I am sick of your crap!!
Cap you are right and I was wrong. I thought they had identified the remnants of gas in the canisters as nerve gas like that used in the Japan subways.
On looking into it further I was wrong. Sorry about that. I wasn’t trying to prove Chas wrong. I came in at that point of the discussion and knew I looked that up last week and had a good source.
“I am NOT playing your stupid games ANY MORE on this Blog… I am sick of your crap!!”
Uh oh. Looks like being unemployed causes craziness.
I am NOT playing your stupid games ANY MORE on this Blog… I am sick of your crap!!
Posted by: Chas. | July 12, 2007 at 03:05 PM
And tired of being proven wrong too I bet.
Crazy!!!
Damn libs are starting to get all militant and violent. I guess living under the shrub regime has started getting ‘em all snakey!
Sadly, the libs will be outgunned in any potential blue state-red state dustup, and that is assuming that they can get their minority criminal buddies to do most of the fighting for ‘em. hehehehehehehehe
MEDIA MATTERSDemocrat blogger wants to shoot Rush LimbaughAlso calls for volunteer to assassinate Ted Nugent
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A Democratic Party blogger says he wants to shoot Rush Limbaugh and is calling for volunteers to assassinate rock star Ted Nugent, who champions the Second Amendment.
Hart Williams, a former writer for porn magazine Hustler and who now toils for the Democratic Daily, was waxing incoherent about a recent Wall Street Journal op-ed by Nugent, complaining that it was likely ghost-written.
“How we can remain ‘civil’ in the face of this is beyond my ken,” wrote Williams. “I will only reiterate what I’ve said WHEN they manage to inevitably push their litany of hatespeak into actual bloodletting, and full-blown civil war (for there is no other place that this hatred of American against American can go), well … I’ve got dibs on Rush, as soon as it’s legal and lawful to shoot him. Whoever wants Ted Nugent is welcome to him, but I would prefer that you would call it now, so as to conserve on ammunition. We will need to manage it prudently. But when the day comes that they have finally set brother against brother, and sister against sister in the name of their pocketbooks, I won’t approach exterminating them with anything approaching remorse. They’ve already told me what they think of me, of my friends and of my peers. Now, I’m returning the favor. Put that in your pipe and have the WSJ editorial staff show you how to smoke it, Nugent. Courage.”http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56569