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Bush Family Evil Empire: Scandal Du Jour
Members of the Saudi royal family, well-known as some of the most venal and cruel despots since Vlad the Impaler, have always known they have a kindred spirit in the Bush family.
George H. W. Bush sat on the board of The Carlyle Group which counted among its important clients the Bin Laden family.
Yeah, THAT Bin Laden family.
Rich and connected Saudis turned young George W’s miserable failures in the oil business into respectable gains by buying him out not once but twice for no apparent reason.
Today’s Scandal Du Jour comes straight from Democratic Underground’s Top Ten Conservative Idiots, because it’s just that good–
On September 20th, 2001, George W. Bush addressed a joint session of Congress and said this:
“We will starve terrorists of funding, turn them one against another, drive them from place to place until there is no refuge or no rest.
“And we will pursue nations that provide aid or safe haven to terrorism. Every nation in every region now has a decision to make: Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists.
“From this day forward, any nation that continues to harbor or support terrorism will be regarded by the United States as a hostile regime.”
So, given that 15 of the 19 September 11th hijackers were from Saudi Arabia, and given that the Los Angeles Times noted recently that in Iraq “About 45% of all foreign militants targeting U.S. troops and Iraqi civilians and security forces are from Saudi Arabia,” just what is the Bush administration’s plan to deal with the Saudis?
“The Bush administration will announce next week a series of arms deals worth at least $20 billion to Saudi Arabia and five other oil-rich Persian Gulf states as well as new 10-year military aid packages to Israel and Egypt, a move to shore up allies in the Middle East and counter Iran’s rising influence, U.S. officials said yesterday.”
Genius. Hey, remember when we tried this kind of proxy power-play against the USSR in Afghanistan? Training and arming all those radical, militant Muslims sure was a great idea. Oh, but I forgot – that’s when they were “freedom fighters.”
This has been your Bush Family Evil Empire: Scandal Du Jour reminding you that in Bush world, there are two kinds of terrorists–those with money and those with none.
What Fred Phelps really is…
http://republikan.typepad.com/republikansan/2007/07/what-fred-phelp.html
Or for those not willing to visit my Website, can view it on YouTube.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=2cxW9PVcBwg
“We don’t see things as they are, we see things as we are”
Anais Nin
“The only abnormality is the incapacity to love.”Anais Nin
Genius. Hey, remember when we tried this kind of proxy power-play against the USSR in Afghanistan? Training and arming all those radical, militant Muslims sure was a great idea. Oh, but I forgot – that’s when they were “freedom fighters.”
Posted by: CapnAmerica | July 30, 2007 at 01:34 AM
That wouldn’t be bin Laden and al-qaeda would it?
Naaaahhhh. We wouldn’t be THAT dumb to CONTINUE to make the same mistakes over and over. Nah, not us…
Here’s more from “Hawver’s Capitol Report” on Saturday’s Kansas Republican Party state convention:
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“The Kansas Republican Party took a solid—maybe chilling and certainly politically dangerous—step toward purifying its official ranks with creation of a “Loyalty Committee” empowered to strip of party authority any official who publicly supports Democrats.
The change to the party’s constitution, approved overwhelmingly at the mid-year convention of Republicans in Topeka on Saturday, achieves a goal of the party’s new leadership, which seeks a solid front against Democrats, of course, but previously was without anything but scolding to punish offending party officials.
Wording of the party loyalty article to the Kansas GOP constitution is:
“…any individual with voting rights on any party committee defined in this constitution, who by any documented public action donates, contributes, endorses a candidate other than the Republican nominee in a contested, partisan campaign for public office in the state of Kansas, shall forfeit their voting rights and membership on the committees on which they serve.”
The aim, of course, is for Republican Party leaders to either endorse their slate of candidates or just be quiet. But the GOP, which in Kansas is riven by the abortion issue, may have found that it created yet another controversy, this time for pro-life party officials.
*****
Hawver goes on to report that Kris Kobach, the failed 3rd District candidate vs. Dennis Moore and current KSGOP Chair, will be chairing this new “Loyalty Committee.”
The death-spiral of the Kansas Republican Party has begun.
They’ve already had problems with moderate, traditional Republican donors cutting off the money. This is _definitely_ going to make it worse. It’s going to make it harder to recruit candidates for state and local offices. It’s going to make it harder for the Republican factions in the Legislature to move their agendas forward.
It’s the Republican version of Jonestown.
It’s against the law to be a denier of their demanded pity, while in turn they offer no pity to those they’ve made destitute.
Hazelton, Pa., ruling defines immigration as federal issuePosted on Fri, Jul. 27, 2007
http://www.kansascity.com/340/story/208440.html
“Hazleton, Pa., is like a lot of cities in the United States. It is conflicted about an influx of workers, mostly Latino, many of whom are not in the country legally, nor authorized to accept the jobs that have drawn them.
Last year, Hazleton’s City Council decided it could drive such immigrants away by fining landlords who rent to them, and by suspending the business licenses of the companies that hire illegal immigrants.
But Thursday, a federal court sent a strong message that immigration is a federal issue, and the Pennsylvania city’s laws in question were unconstitutional and unenforceable.
A hundred state and local governments had been waiting for the decision after the ACLU and others challenged Hazleton’s laws.”
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The same Judge ruling on the case allowed illegal aliens to remain anonymous to testify about their “injury” because of the city ordinances.
In a 206 – page opinion, U.S. District Judge James M. Munley stated “federal law prohibits Hazleton from enforcing any of the provisions of its ordinance.
Questions come to mind:
Why isn’t the ACLU suing cities for setting up their city as sanctuary cities?
Why did the activisit Judge ignore two precedents that Congress passed as law that allow cities to set up such ordinances.
Why are the illegal aliens giving special status of anonymity?
What will the illegal aliens be allow to sue the city because of the ruling?
But that is the nature of the beast.
What will the illegal aliens be allow to sue the city because of the ruling?
should read as
“Why will the illegal aliens be allow to sue the city because of the ruling?”
Oh, and by the way; be sure to hate the Saudis.
A Friday Wall Street Journal review of the new book, “Cheney” by Stephen Hayes contains some scary comments.
“Few people confuse the Washington establishment more than Dick Cheney. Before becoming vice president, he had awalsy been the kind of low-key, pragmatic Republican than Democrats and the press liked. When he served in Congress, he had been a protege of moderate Republican leader Bob Michel….he had been Gerald Ford’s chief of staff. How did this same, sober voice on foreign policy turn into the Darth Vader of the Bush White House?
“Today Mr. Cheney has become the personification of virtually everything people don’t like about the Bush administration. He is a war-monger, puppet-master, advocate of torture, manipulator of intelligence and the center of an endless supply of conspiracy theories. As Gen. [Brent] Scowcraft, his old friend lamented, “I’ve known Dick Cheney for thirty years. But I don’t know Dick Cheney anymore.
“Not long ago, a prominent foreign-policy experst in Washington who has also known Dick Cheney for years told me–seriously–that he thought the change could be chemical, that, somehow, when Mr. Cheney had his pacemaker installed in June 2001, it triggered a reaction that affected his brain and drained him of his common sense.”
WSJ p. W3 July 27, 2007
Mr. Cheney has had two myocardial infarctions, a five-way coronary bypass surgery, and pacemaker/difibrillator implacement.
What the general public doesn’t know is that coronary artery obstructive disease is invariably accompanied by cerebral artery obstructive disease: the heart gets robbed of oxygen as the brain gets robbed of oxygen. Furthermore, coronary artery bypass surgery is accompanied by large strokes 2% of the time, while subtle, small strokes, i.e. death of brain tissue, usually undetected, are far more common.
This is a man who has major illness, very likely affecting his brain. How serious is it? Well, he shot his hunting partner who was wearing a high-visibility-orange safety vest. He’s had a major personality change.
These are red flags that he needs comprehensive neurocognative evaluation, and functional MRI scans. The man is being kept alive by a machine implanted in his chest, because his heart doesn’t work anymore. Without this technology, he would have died some time ago.
If Cheney is going to be the most powerful person in the U.S., which is to say the world, shouldn’t we find out if his brain may be as diseased from his heart’s blood pumping incapacity as his heart is unable to pump, which the latter medical experts have proven to represent advanced degeneration?
Because if Cheney’s brain is damaged, it would go a long ways toward explaining how America got into a war with Iraq under Cheney’s machination, without any plan how to win the war and bring our men and women home after a veritable “Mission Accomplished”.
Raise your hands, how many WEBlog readers agree or disagree with the statement,
“It doesn’t matter whether Mr. Cheney’s brain doesn’t work fully anymore, we just need for America to follow the path Mr. Cheney dreams up for our country, and see what happens.”
OBL was kicked-out of Saudi Arabia, then kicked-out of Sudan, but was welcomed by the Taliban in Afghanistan.
But somehow the Saudis are responsible for OBL?
{ Or does that big lie cover-up an underlying reason? }
Cheney’s brain is deluded to the point it needs to be in an institution with bars — choose one for the insane or one for criminals; he is both.
For every complex question, there’s a simple WRONG answer.
Ed Freidemann’s simple wrong answer is to claim that everything is a zionist plot . . .
Last Saturday doctors performed surgery on George Bush?s OTHER a**hole, Dick Cheney. While Cheney was under the knife, George W. Bush enjoyed two hours of being ?in charge.? White House spokesman Tony Snow said Bush sat in Cheney?s chair, pretended to talk to ?big important people? and ?the King of China? on the telephone, appointed his dogs to the Supreme Court, and had ?secret service agents? accompany him to lunch at an Applebee?s in suburban Maryland, and worked on his fort in the back yard.
linda – rotflmao
Capn,A day NOT spent out killin jews is a wasted day for ole Ed.
Heheh, Linda, good one.
http://www.c-span.org/rss/video.asp?MediaID=26942
The turds need flushing.
Was the real dispute within the DOJ about the results of data mining, and not the NSA surveillance program? Is this a distinction without a difference?
http://tinyurl.com/37fs2f
Good one, Ed, don’t mind saying that myself.
See Cheney in action on PBS
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/darkside/view/
Why aren’t you two out demanding your pity?
And threatening them thar deniers?
If ever there were a pair of assholes…..
Zionists are the drizzly shits even without a plot.
Captn Zionist is hard at work watching the murdering of defenseless people.
Wonder when Captn Asshole has to report back to Hell?
Another good one Ed, Ed you are the greatest! Keep telling those Asshole troublemakers off!
Iraq is an artificial construct anyway. why not just divide it up with turkey, iran and saudia arabia. The Kurds are the big problem, but the neighboring states would be eager to cooperate in order to gain the territory and wealth.
XXX–
Remember when I said that Ed can seem reasonable but can just as easily go ape-sh*t on you?
I rest my case.
CapnA
Cut-off the funding today.
DK–
That’s the problem. If Iran were to annex Shia Iraq, they would become the “United States” of the Middle East.
In other words, a dominating, hegemonic world power.
The US doesn’t want to allow competing hegemonies — that’s what it means to BE a hegemony, controlling others.
The biggest bully on the block doesn’t want to create a competing bully.
If it’s really Ed.
Anymore, you need a program just to tell the players apart on this blog.
Hehe, XXX, too true.
Too true.
Some of it reads like Ed, some of it reads like Ed being trolled.
The trolls have damn near ruined this blog.
Everyone should sign his own name.
Why not?
Ain’t it the truth Tom? And the turd is HAPPY about it. Guess he has a control issue or is just an attention whore.
Mommy took him off the teat too soon. Daddy sodomized him. Take your pick…
XXX- How are you and Mrs XXX doing in the healing department?
Any thoughts about replacing the bike?? Climbing back on after being bucked off?
G
maybe mommy sodomized him….
If I lived in Texas, I might sign my own name too.
Since I live in Wichita area where 90 percent of the post-ers live, I choose not to . . .
good idea CapN… and, it sounds like Ed is talking to himself today for sure…
I say let’s end this “loose affiliation” entirely and grant PR it’s independence. Let them build their own social welfare system modeled after ours if they like – but without OUR dollars. That is the crux of what it means to have a “loose affiliation”.
Let Freedom Ring:
SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico (AP) — Puerto Rico’s ruling party approved a resolution Sunday urging the United Nations to review the island’s status, hoping international pressure can help it gain greater autonomy from the United States.Islanders have voted to keep their loose affiliation with the U.S. and rejected statehood in nonbinding referendums in 1967, 1993 and 1998.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/americas/07/30/puerto.rico.autonomy.ap/index.html
“I think it has a pernicious effect on society. Hollywood projects a leftist homosexual agenda, which goes along with radical feminism, and a misunderstanding of what Christianity teaches.”. . . radio and TV host Tom Snyder- – -
Hollywood is again stooping to blatantly ridiculing, mocking, and debasing Christianity, as the central theme of the movie “The Ten”. It isn’t just a comedy.- – -
One year ago today, the Clean Films company, which sold and rented copies of movies with the obscene, profane, and violent scenes edited out, announced its closing because of a July 6 ruling by U.S. District Court for the District of Colorado, siding with major film studios, holding that trying to clean up Hollywood’s filthy output was a violation of copyright law.- – -
“I hope I never get so old I get religious.”. . . film director Ingmar Bergman, who will not get any older now- – -
Fake butter:
If you don’t like certain movies, don’t watch them.
Easy, right?
Parkrap, you always have your re-runs of Touched by an Angel to watch or your two hour long Jesus snuff film. If that’s not enough you can always move to a Muslim theocracy or Communist country, they strongly regulate content in movies for you. The rest of us will enjoy America and the freedom of expression it provides.
I read Israeli newspapers everyday and have not read one word of remorse for the Killings of Palestinians, or the devastation of Lebanon { with the killings of its men women and children } or the murderings of Iraqi civilians and destruction of their country.
Not one single word of remorse for the murder of an American, Rachelle Currie, who was bulldozed to death by two laughing soldiers in a “military bulldozer” { whatever the hell that is }.
And you expect the world to offer you pity?
I want to see a peaceful all-Jewish homeland. A homeland at peace with its neighbors and not where greed rules the day.
And all I get is you bunch of smart-mouthed bastards.
{ who haven’t learned the value of honesty or that the indefensible is indefensible, so don’t try to defend it }
Parkay,Maybe the ‘Clean Films company’ could put out a version of the Bible with the vioence and sex cut out.
If the “Chrisitans” don’t mind that, then I think the Colorado U.S. District Court ruling should be reversed.
The “Evangelicals” may be worse than the “Zionists.”
“May” be?
“And all I get is you bunch of smart-mouthed b—-ds.”Posted by: Ed Friedemann
You’ve come to the right place.
(pssst! you expect religious standards, you better go to different site, yes? This is a designated liberal blog.)
Parkay–
Isn’t the clean version of movies what the networks show on television and on airplanes?
Oops, I forgot. Parkay doesn’t deign to answer questions put to him.
Aaron Yaakov
Where do you live, inside your vacuum cleaner?
This is a “talk about whatever you want to talk about blog.” “They” know what I’m talking about because they use their vacuum Cleaners on their carpets, not like you: to suck your brains out through your ears.
Go away.
EEEEEYAHHH!!
Joint Meeting of City Council, Design Council, Airport Board
Date: July 30, 2007
“The schematic design for a new airline terminal at Wichita’s Mid-Continent Airport will be reviewed Friday during a joint meeting of the Wichita City Council, Design Council and Airport Advisory Board.
The meeting is scheduled from 11 AM to 1 PM in the 10th floor conference room of the Metropolitan Area Planning Commission at City Hall, 455 N. Main.”
CEC-Conference: The International Electroacoustic Community
‘Speech enhancement in the Howard Dean “scream”‘http://alcor.concordia.ca/~kaustin/cecconference/current/6865.html“Later, [Diane ] Sawyer apologized on television, saying that Dean’s scream had been exaggerated by his wearing a directional mike, so that the media picked up the sound of the voice and not the sound of the crowd…….it is clear that the event in its original and natural form, as filmed by Draper, was not the version broadcast to the public.
It would not have been newsworthy, because the scream was covered up by the crowd noise. The media “created” this story of an angry Dean scream. “
Dems. again attempting to get a bill passed that the corrupt previous congress would have watered down or put off indefinitely.Democrats offer bill to clean up Congress By Thomas Ferraro21 minutes ago
WASHINGTON (Reuters) – U.S. congressional Democratic leaders, who won power last year with the help of voter disgust over mostly Republican scandals, offered legislation on Monday to clean up how lawmakers do business.
ADVERTISEMENTDemocrats said they hope to win passage of the measure in the House of Representatives and Senate — and send it to President George W. Bush to sign into law — before Congress begins a monthlong recess at the end of this week.
“We are fighting to enact the most sweeping ethics and lobbying reform in history so we can deliver to the American people a government as good and honest as the people it represents,” said Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, a Nevada Democrat.
It would require disclosure of campaign donations collected by lobbyists and delivered to lawmakers in so-called bundles, deny pensions to members of Congress convicted of bribery and prohibit lobbyists from providing lawmakers gifts or travel.
The measure would also prohibit members from attending lobbyist-paid parties in their honor at national political conventions, and require greater disclosure of pet projects, known as earmarks, slipped into big spending bills.
But some Republicans, whose party had controlled Congress much of the past 12 years, charged that the earmark disclosure provision was woefully inadequate.
Under it in the Senate, they complained, the majority leader could certify if earmarks met disclosure requirements.
‘FOX TO GUARD THE HENHOUSE’
“This bill allows the fox to guard the henhouse and makes a joke of ethics reform,” said Sen. Jim DeMint, a South Carolina Republican.
But Democrats noted the majority leader’s certification could be appealed to the Senate parliamentarian, and subjected to a vote by the full chamber. House certification could be made by the committee chair with jurisdiction over the bill.
An aide to Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, a Kentucky Republican, said his office was still reviewing the sweeping measure but “it sounds like the earmark provision will be really quite strict.”
It would require that all earmarks in bills and in House-Senate conference reports, along with sponsors, be identified on the Internet before final congressional passage.
Craig Holman of Public Citizen, a public advocacy group, said, “It’s a good bill. I’m pretty excited about it.”
“Democrats are following through on our promise to change the way business is done in Washington,” said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, a California Democrat.
Reid and Pelosi took the lead in drafting the measure after lawmakers haggled over changes and Republicans blocked efforts to begin final negotiations on the ethics and lobbying bills earlier passed by the two chambers.
While the war in Iraq was a major factor in last year’s congressional elections, so was what Democrats denounced as a Republican “culture of corruption” on Capitol Hill.
This culture saw bribery convictions of Republican Reps. Bob Ney of Ohio and Randy “Duke” Cunningham of California and the downfall of convicted Republican lobbyist Jack Abramoff.
But the perception of such problems has not been confined to Republicans. Democratic Rep. William Jefferson of Louisiana was indicted on bribery charges this year after $90,000 was found in his freezer. He has pleaded innocent.
Phantom — Now THATS what we been talking about!! And its about time too!! As long as our own Reid, and Boxer make full disclosures of all the things they have been accused of accepting over the years… which it seems at least Reid is open to doing…
And if Jefferson (D-LA) is convicted, then he needs to go down, too!!
Hey Crap on America, I had to re-read your first post at the top of this thread several times before I realized what was different. You referenced President Bush without one time adding your tired old “worst President ever” tag. Your slipping Crappy. Don’t let it happen again or your moveon.org and dailykos credentials will be revoked!
Those are the kinds of personal attacks that I’ve been ignoring these days.
Nice try and thanks for playing though.
That sounds real funny comiing from the king of personel attacks
Go down on THIS “Chris from Mac Town” and then eat this juicy turd while you’re in your diapers you Republican lackey!
Hmmm. The home of Senator Ted Stevens (R-AK) has been raided by FBI and IRS agents in conjunction with an ongoing bribery investigation involving the Veco oil services company.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/S/STEVENS_INVESTIGATION?SITE=INLAF&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
Veco paid to have Senator Steven’s home remodelled. Looks like Senator Don Young is implicated as well.
Good stuff. Nice to see that being in the minority hasn’t hurt the Republican culture of corruption.
Watched the casino debate on Chnl 12s web page …..
If Randy Brown is the best the pro casino group can come up with — they should lose — his shirt alone is worth at least one of the no votes — not very articulate, stumbled frequently — wonder who he’s shilling for ? Ruffin? Cornejo?
I detect weakness among the Libs recently.
The surge is working.
Price of gas is down.
The economy is booming.
And the Congressional Dems look like monkeys in roach orgy.
The surge is working.
Price of gas is down.
The economy is booming.
Thank God the Dems are back in power!
A very informative, and thought-provoking column on GW legislation,
‘Global Warming: Seven Generations, not Seven Years … ‘http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/7/28/214525/965“We live in a “time of consequences.” We, as individuals and collectively, are setting the path which will determine the living conditions for millenia to come. This time of consequences is both long term and quite immediate.”
Also: “Because we don’t think about future generations, they will never forget us.” Henrik Tikkanen
Roberts had a similar episode in 1993, she said.
Doctors called Monday’s incident “a benign idiopathic seizure,” Arberg said. The White House described the January 1993 episode as an “isolated, idiosyncratic seizure
Is an idiosyncratic seizure cause by blindly following a ‘unitary ideology’, or just from being idiotic?
Looks like the dems. are capable for pursuing the lying liars in the admin. as well as bringing forward reform and taking care of the business of America. The last congress would do neither!
good nite, and good luck… and God bless, who/whatever you conceive of God to be!!
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