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		<title>By: Steven Davis</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/07/open-thread-725/#comment-213074</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 15:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I do not believe that there will be any sign which would PREDICT Christs coming. A sign doesn&#039;t have to predict anything to be a sign.&quot;

What would make a &quot;sign&quot; a &quot;sign&quot;, if said &quot;sign&quot; did not predict anything.  The above is my nomination for the _dumbest_ thing you have ever posted - which is no small feat given the huge number of candidates.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I do not believe that there will be any sign which would PREDICT Christs coming. A sign doesn&#8217;t have to predict anything to be a sign.&#8221;</p>
<p>What would make a &#8220;sign&#8221; a &#8220;sign&#8221;, if said &#8220;sign&#8221; did not predict anything.  The above is my nomination for the _dumbest_ thing you have ever posted &#8211; which is no small feat given the huge number of candidates.</p>
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		<title>By: PROPHET</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/07/open-thread-725/#comment-213073</link>
		<dc:creator>PROPHET</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 14:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;`How can you say, &quot;We are wise, for we have the law of the LORD,&quot; when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?&#039;

JEREMIAH 8:8
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;`How can you say, &#8220;We are wise, for we have the law of the LORD,&#8221; when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?&#8217;</p>
<p>JEREMIAH 8:8</p>
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		<title>By: brian</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/07/open-thread-725/#comment-213072</link>
		<dc:creator>brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 14:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey &#039;give war a chance, quit calling W a Liberal!
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		<title>By: Give War a Chance</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/07/open-thread-725/#comment-213071</link>
		<dc:creator>Give War a Chance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 13:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>. you meet bin laden in an alley what do you do give him a hug or slit his throat?

Posted by: Horst Wessell &#124; July 26, 2007 at 12:19 AM

I think the liberal equivalent is to offer a 50 million dollar reward to whomever has the courage and fortitude to go after Osama.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>. you meet bin laden in an alley what do you do give him a hug or slit his throat?</p>
<p>Posted by: Horst Wessell | July 26, 2007 at 12:19 AM</p>
<p>I think the liberal equivalent is to offer a 50 million dollar reward to whomever has the courage and fortitude to go after Osama.</p>
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		<title>By: brian</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/07/open-thread-725/#comment-213070</link>
		<dc:creator>brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 06:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;As for IVF, I am not opposed as long as all the human eggs fertilized are implanted with the opportunity for live birth. Freezing and thawing will kill some fertilized embryos. I would prefer that nearly all orphans were adopted before promoting IVF instead of adoption.- - -Posted by: parkay &#124; July 25, 2007 at 09:41 PM &quot;

Hypocrite Parkay is thy name!

You are not opposed to IVF as long as all fertilized embryos are implated?  That would be like saying you are not opposed to abortion as long as no fetus are killed.

ANY time IVF is done, dozens of eggs are fertilized, many are implanted with the express knowledge that they will not successfully implant and will &#039;die&#039; and the rest are frozen or destroyed.  This always happens, exactly like every time there is an abortion, a fetus dies.

If you truely believe a fertilized egg is a living being there is no way you could EVER support IVF, regardless if all the orphans are adopted or not!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As for IVF, I am not opposed as long as all the human eggs fertilized are implanted with the opportunity for live birth. Freezing and thawing will kill some fertilized embryos. I would prefer that nearly all orphans were adopted before promoting IVF instead of adoption.- &#8211; -Posted by: parkay | July 25, 2007 at 09:41 PM &#8221;</p>
<p>Hypocrite Parkay is thy name!</p>
<p>You are not opposed to IVF as long as all fertilized embryos are implated?  That would be like saying you are not opposed to abortion as long as no fetus are killed.</p>
<p>ANY time IVF is done, dozens of eggs are fertilized, many are implanted with the express knowledge that they will not successfully implant and will &#8216;die&#8217; and the rest are frozen or destroyed.  This always happens, exactly like every time there is an abortion, a fetus dies.</p>
<p>If you truely believe a fertilized egg is a living being there is no way you could EVER support IVF, regardless if all the orphans are adopted or not!</p>
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		<title>By: brian</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/07/open-thread-725/#comment-213069</link>
		<dc:creator>brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 06:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>parkay,&quot;confirming the ineffectiveness of the dangerous Plan B contraceptive overdose toreduce surgical abortions or unwanted pregnancies&quot;  no, that confirms that it does not lower the incidence of abortions. That study in Scotland is the only data on that, btw.

&quot;Data is lacking to assure safe usage&quot;  There was enough data for the FDA, AMA, and many other professional medical organizations to issue professional statement based on many studies that it is indeed safe. So much so that the FDA approved it for OTC use in those over 18 and with a prescription for those under that age.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>parkay,&#8221;confirming the ineffectiveness of the dangerous Plan B contraceptive overdose toreduce surgical abortions or unwanted pregnancies&#8221;  no, that confirms that it does not lower the incidence of abortions. That study in Scotland is the only data on that, btw.</p>
<p>&#8220;Data is lacking to assure safe usage&#8221;  There was enough data for the FDA, AMA, and many other professional medical organizations to issue professional statement based on many studies that it is indeed safe. So much so that the FDA approved it for OTC use in those over 18 and with a prescription for those under that age.</p>
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		<title>By: brian</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/07/open-thread-725/#comment-213068</link>
		<dc:creator>brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 06:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>slaughter is that you undercover?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>slaughter is that you undercover?</p>
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		<title>By: Chas.</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/07/open-thread-725/#comment-213067</link>
		<dc:creator>Chas.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 06:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Outlander,  you  said:  &quot;but why in the world would I think that your interpretation of biblical text would be superior in any way to my own?&quot;

I didnt offer any interpretation of those texts..  only commentary on the interpreters....

And secondly,  anhy interpretation I might offer is just that...  my interpretation...  no  more superior or inferior to any other,  especially  since we can never know the &quot;right&quot; one...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Outlander,  you  said:  &#8220;but why in the world would I think that your interpretation of biblical text would be superior in any way to my own?&#8221;</p>
<p>I didnt offer any interpretation of those texts..  only commentary on the interpreters&#8230;.</p>
<p>And secondly,  anhy interpretation I might offer is just that&#8230;  my interpretation&#8230;  no  more superior or inferior to any other,  especially  since we can never know the &#8220;right&#8221; one&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Chas.</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/07/open-thread-725/#comment-213066</link>
		<dc:creator>Chas.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 05:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Troll repellant on special,  Aisle 5 at WalMart Super Centers everywhere..
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		<title>By: Chas2</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/07/open-thread-725/#comment-213065</link>
		<dc:creator>Chas2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 05:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Biblican Researcher you are a LIAR!!!

Genisus 1:1 Says in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. YOU CAN ONLY CREATE ONE TIME bozo.  So it was all done in howEVER long it took HIM to do it.

It wasn&#039;t until verse 2 that the shit hit the fan.  It says the earth was (became=Tohu bohu) without form and void and everything HE created got DARK!

Some bad stuff happened man between what God created in the beginning, and verse 2. Could be eons to time. Bazillion years!

But there could have been dinasours, glaciers, global cooling, global warming, all kinds of bad stuff man.

Maybe this is when the angel Lucifer took his trip? Who knows?

But the original paradise could have had man, monkeys, apes, or whatEVER. All in verse one.

So sorry charlie, there COULD HAVE BEEN belly buttons in the original creation by the great wizard God.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Biblican Researcher you are a LIAR!!!</p>
<p>Genisus 1:1 Says in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. YOU CAN ONLY CREATE ONE TIME bozo.  So it was all done in howEVER long it took HIM to do it.</p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t until verse 2 that the shit hit the fan.  It says the earth was (became=Tohu bohu) without form and void and everything HE created got DARK!</p>
<p>Some bad stuff happened man between what God created in the beginning, and verse 2. Could be eons to time. Bazillion years!</p>
<p>But there could have been dinasours, glaciers, global cooling, global warming, all kinds of bad stuff man.</p>
<p>Maybe this is when the angel Lucifer took his trip? Who knows?</p>
<p>But the original paradise could have had man, monkeys, apes, or whatEVER. All in verse one.</p>
<p>So sorry charlie, there COULD HAVE BEEN belly buttons in the original creation by the great wizard God.</p>
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		<title>By: GMC70</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/07/open-thread-725/#comment-213064</link>
		<dc:creator>GMC70</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 05:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Capn:

A serious question.  You wrote earlier that conservatives  - wait, I gotta scroll back and get your words correctly: cons &quot;who loathe the 14th amendment.&quot;

I&#039;m a conservative.  I do not loathe the 14th amendment; on the contrary.  Further, I know few conservatives who &quot;loathe&quot; the 14th amendment.

So - I guess I wonder just how you conclude that?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Capn:</p>
<p>A serious question.  You wrote earlier that conservatives  &#8211; wait, I gotta scroll back and get your words correctly: cons &#8220;who loathe the 14th amendment.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a conservative.  I do not loathe the 14th amendment; on the contrary.  Further, I know few conservatives who &#8220;loathe&#8221; the 14th amendment.</p>
<p>So &#8211; I guess I wonder just how you conclude that?</p>
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		<title>By: Biblical Researcher x many years</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/07/open-thread-725/#comment-213063</link>
		<dc:creator>Biblical Researcher x many years</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 05:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After careful evaluation, and much discussion, we have concluded that neither Adam, nor Eve had belly buttons.

Our final analysis has determined therfore that neither had belly button rings.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After careful evaluation, and much discussion, we have concluded that neither Adam, nor Eve had belly buttons.</p>
<p>Our final analysis has determined therfore that neither had belly button rings.</p>
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		<title>By: Amen WEb certified as holier than thou</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/07/open-thread-725/#comment-213062</link>
		<dc:creator>Amen WEb certified as holier than thou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 05:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars; see that ye be not troubled stupid. For these all these things must come to pass, but the end is not here yet. For nations will rise against nation, kingdoms against blah, blah, blah, and famines, and pestilences (a weird form of TB), and earthquakes in some pretty weird places.

Sad times. Some will die, some will screw each other, and some will hate trolls.

Many NIC&#039;s will rise and deceive many.

And lots&#039; more stuff which could be considered signs and seasons.

But none of you will know the hour - unless you are ME or the old man.

SO chill out, all this will pass, but those of you who are righteous will move on to the WEBLOG eternal.

Matthew 25
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars; see that ye be not troubled stupid. For these all these things must come to pass, but the end is not here yet. For nations will rise against nation, kingdoms against blah, blah, blah, and famines, and pestilences (a weird form of TB), and earthquakes in some pretty weird places.</p>
<p>Sad times. Some will die, some will screw each other, and some will hate trolls.</p>
<p>Many NIC&#8217;s will rise and deceive many.</p>
<p>And lots&#8217; more stuff which could be considered signs and seasons.</p>
<p>But none of you will know the hour &#8211; unless you are ME or the old man.</p>
<p>SO chill out, all this will pass, but those of you who are righteous will move on to the WEBLOG eternal.</p>
<p>Matthew 25</p>
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		<title>By: This here song</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/07/open-thread-725/#comment-213061</link>
		<dc:creator>This here song</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 04:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This just in from the news desk,highlights from todays open thread:

Nathan opens with a bold post on discussion of the issues, WE BLOG&#039;s one-sided approach, and the many real value questions voters should be concerned with. He is challenged all day long not on the relevance of his initial post (and significant), but on biblical interpretations mostly by bible expert Chas, and margerines king Parkay.

Distracted by those possing an afront to his christian views, Nathan ends the night have a day long dissertation of the bible on a religious biblical note.

Writerdog, a troll no doubt, posts one significant post on the republican party getting a check up from the neck up, and disappears. Affliation with the WEBLOG staff is a presumption on this poster.

Triple XXX, the movie genre buff, starts the daily &#039;Wow Is Me, the trolls are here dialogue&#039;, which captures Chas and Captain America&#039;s ears.

Writers of substance Tracy, Kev post some real pieces related to the national level politic&#039;s of the party line.

Steven Davis posts to Nathan supporting the WEBLOG&#039;s one sided reporting, but challenges Nathan to do their work for them. Stephen later digresses, feeling the need to post the standards of conduct for the WEBLOG, in the world according to him and the liberal regulars of the blog. We predict these postulates will become important food for future postings, for those who are concerned with the proliferating numbers of non-conforming posters on the blogs. There must be approved standards of conduct for free speech on these pages.

Most of the rest of the day was centered on the testimony from various preachers, religious EXPERTS, and biblical researchers, about the writings and life of a one Jesus, who died some 2,000+ years ago.  THe news desk could come to no conclusion on the righteousness of any of the participants in this debate. Although one has to wonder if the man Jesus, is laughing his ass off at the various opinions, and name-calling expressed by these writers. Some of them are called &quot;liars&quot; in the thread.

In conclusion, this reporter CAN say with certainty, that this WEBLOG is not discussing the candidates for office, the problems facing this nation, nor the opportunities for improvement to the lot in life for Americans.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This just in from the news desk,highlights from todays open thread:</p>
<p>Nathan opens with a bold post on discussion of the issues, WE BLOG&#8217;s one-sided approach, and the many real value questions voters should be concerned with. He is challenged all day long not on the relevance of his initial post (and significant), but on biblical interpretations mostly by bible expert Chas, and margerines king Parkay.</p>
<p>Distracted by those possing an afront to his christian views, Nathan ends the night have a day long dissertation of the bible on a religious biblical note.</p>
<p>Writerdog, a troll no doubt, posts one significant post on the republican party getting a check up from the neck up, and disappears. Affliation with the WEBLOG staff is a presumption on this poster.</p>
<p>Triple XXX, the movie genre buff, starts the daily &#8216;Wow Is Me, the trolls are here dialogue&#8217;, which captures Chas and Captain America&#8217;s ears.</p>
<p>Writers of substance Tracy, Kev post some real pieces related to the national level politic&#8217;s of the party line.</p>
<p>Steven Davis posts to Nathan supporting the WEBLOG&#8217;s one sided reporting, but challenges Nathan to do their work for them. Stephen later digresses, feeling the need to post the standards of conduct for the WEBLOG, in the world according to him and the liberal regulars of the blog. We predict these postulates will become important food for future postings, for those who are concerned with the proliferating numbers of non-conforming posters on the blogs. There must be approved standards of conduct for free speech on these pages.</p>
<p>Most of the rest of the day was centered on the testimony from various preachers, religious EXPERTS, and biblical researchers, about the writings and life of a one Jesus, who died some 2,000+ years ago.  THe news desk could come to no conclusion on the righteousness of any of the participants in this debate. Although one has to wonder if the man Jesus, is laughing his ass off at the various opinions, and name-calling expressed by these writers. Some of them are called &#8220;liars&#8221; in the thread.</p>
<p>In conclusion, this reporter CAN say with certainty, that this WEBLOG is not discussing the candidates for office, the problems facing this nation, nor the opportunities for improvement to the lot in life for Americans.</p>
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		<title>By: outlander</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/07/open-thread-725/#comment-213060</link>
		<dc:creator>outlander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 04:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>chas: You can&#039;t dismiss biblical text with a simple &quot;that&#039;s fundamentalist hype&quot;. It says what it says. You can scream and shout &quot;poor interpretation, extremely poor interpretation&quot;, but why in the world would I think that your interpretation of biblical text would be superior in any way to my own?  Because you are a &quot;highly educated and trained professional&quot;? C&#039;mon.

And as born again believers, are we not indwelt by the Holy Spirit to guide us? Since I assume you aren&#039;t, or we wouldn&#039;t be having this discussion, the answer is yes.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>chas: You can&#8217;t dismiss biblical text with a simple &#8220;that&#8217;s fundamentalist hype&#8221;. It says what it says. You can scream and shout &#8220;poor interpretation, extremely poor interpretation&#8221;, but why in the world would I think that your interpretation of biblical text would be superior in any way to my own?  Because you are a &#8220;highly educated and trained professional&#8221;? C&#8217;mon.</p>
<p>And as born again believers, are we not indwelt by the Holy Spirit to guide us? Since I assume you aren&#8217;t, or we wouldn&#8217;t be having this discussion, the answer is yes.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/07/open-thread-725/#comment-213059</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 04:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I guess Chas has left the floor along with his friend in Frisco Captain America, the equal rights for all guy.
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		<title>By: ProudMan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/07/open-thread-725/#comment-213058</link>
		<dc:creator>ProudMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 04:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Chas.!

Thanks for jumping on my case for asking a question.  And for your in depth knowledge of Libertarians.

Here is a little scoop for you.  Libertarians are a &#039;live and let live&#039; kind of people.  We don&#039;t condone/seek/endorse/promote the use of force to make others conform to what we think is the right path.  It does not preclude us from having opinions or even being judgmental about how other people are living/acting.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Chas.!</p>
<p>Thanks for jumping on my case for asking a question.  And for your in depth knowledge of Libertarians.</p>
<p>Here is a little scoop for you.  Libertarians are a &#8216;live and let live&#8217; kind of people.  We don&#8217;t condone/seek/endorse/promote the use of force to make others conform to what we think is the right path.  It does not preclude us from having opinions or even being judgmental about how other people are living/acting.</p>
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		<title>By: Chas.</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/07/open-thread-725/#comment-213057</link>
		<dc:creator>Chas.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 03:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well,  Nathan,  either you  are just  a plain old fashioned trouble maker,  or you have a problem with  authority figures,  or  you  just  want to be a PITA!!  Whatever,   nite nite!!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well,  Nathan,  either you  are just  a plain old fashioned trouble maker,  or you have a problem with  authority figures,  or  you  just  want to be a PITA!!  Whatever,   nite nite!!</p>
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		<title>By: Chas.</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/07/open-thread-725/#comment-213056</link>
		<dc:creator>Chas.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 03:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well,  I have a long  day tomorrow...  nite all!!

Good nite,  good luck,  and god bless,  who/whatever you  conceive of God to be...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well,  I have a long  day tomorrow&#8230;  nite all!!</p>
<p>Good nite,  good luck,  and god bless,  who/whatever you  conceive of God to be&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 03:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chas,

That statement doesn&#039;t in and of it&#039;s self preclude that there could very well be signs.

None of the verse you have cited so far preclude the possibility of signs.

Yet you make a definitive claim that Jesus says there will be no signs.

I have yet to see a verse that says that.

What outlander said is what I have been trying to say for several threads now.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chas,</p>
<p>That statement doesn&#8217;t in and of it&#8217;s self preclude that there could very well be signs.</p>
<p>None of the verse you have cited so far preclude the possibility of signs.</p>
<p>Yet you make a definitive claim that Jesus says there will be no signs.</p>
<p>I have yet to see a verse that says that.</p>
<p>What outlander said is what I have been trying to say for several threads now.</p>
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		<title>By: Chas.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chas.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 03:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually,  the  paraphrase is from the Matthew text,  using the text from Paul&#039;s letter,  which was probably  written some 30 years prior to the Gospel...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually,  the  paraphrase is from the Matthew text,  using the text from Paul&#8217;s letter,  which was probably  written some 30 years prior to the Gospel&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Chas.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chas.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 03:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nathan,  here is St. Paul&#039;s take on it:

I Thessalonians 5:4  &quot;For you yourselves know full well that the day of the Lord will come just like a thief in the night.==================

That is a paraphrase of the passage in Matthew I cited above...  according to my Greek New Testament source  book...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nathan,  here is St. Paul&#8217;s take on it:</p>
<p>I Thessalonians 5:4  &#8220;For you yourselves know full well that the day of the Lord will come just like a thief in the night.==================</p>
<p>That is a paraphrase of the passage in Matthew I cited above&#8230;  according to my Greek New Testament source  book&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: parkay</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/07/open-thread-725/#comment-213052</link>
		<dc:creator>parkay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 03:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>brian and political_mom and chas,The number of abortions committed in Scotland has increased twice since OTC access to the Plan B abortifacient drug was implemented, confirming the ineffectiveness of the dangerous Plan B contraceptive overdose toreduce surgical abortions or unwanted pregnancies. The Scotland government reported 13,081 abortions in 2006, up from 12,603 the previous year -- an increase ofnearly 3.8%, and an all-time high.See news page&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=IF06H01&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=IF06H01&lt;/a&gt;- - -Plan B sometimes kills a living, fertilized human embryo by preventing implantation. Data is lacking to assure safe usage, especially for minors.See pharmacy page&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.uspharmacist.com/index.asp?show=article&amp;page=8_1567.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.uspharmacist.com/index.asp?show=article&amp;page=8_1567.htm&lt;/a&gt;and physician page&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.physiciansforlife.org/content/view/48/2/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.physiciansforlife.org/content/view/48/2/&lt;/a&gt;- - -&quot;Be it Enacted by the People of the State of Colorado:SECTION 1. Article II of the constitution of the stateof Colorado is amended BY THE ADDITION OF A NEW SECTION to read: Section 31. Person defined. AS USEDIN SECTIONS 3, 6, AND 25 OF ARTICLE II OF THE STATE CONSTITUTION, THE TERMS &quot;PERSON&quot; OR &quot;PERSONS&quot; SHALL INCLUDE ANY HUMAN BEING FROM THE MOMENT OFFERTILIZATION.&quot;. . . proposed amendment to the Colorado Constitution for the 2008 ballot, abolishing abortion in thatstate, by the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution[Colorado and Kansas are now the only states tolerating essentially unrestricted post-viable abortions, because of their inability to meaningfullyprosecute one criminal abortionist quack in Wichita and one in Boulder.]See equal rights page&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.coloradoequalrights.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.coloradoequalrights.com/&lt;/a&gt;- - -As for the breath of life, Adam, being created from dirt, had no umbilical cord. Today, babies long before birth breathe through the oxygen exchange in the placenta. Babies do not instantly change from being &quot;not human&quot; to human when they draw their first breath after the umbilical cord is cut. Ask any decent mother if her baby exhibited human characteristics and behavior before birth. Particularly between 12 and 20 weeks gestation, babies &quot;walk&quot;, kick, smile, yawn, hiccup, cry, swallow, wake, sleep, react to sound and pain, and suck their thumb.- - -As for IVF, I am not opposed as long as all the human eggs fertilized are implanted with the opportunity for live birth. Freezing and thawing will kill some fertilized embryos. I would prefer that nearly all orphans were adopted before promoting IVF instead of adoption.- - -
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>brian and political_mom and chas,The number of abortions committed in Scotland has increased twice since OTC access to the Plan B abortifacient drug was implemented, confirming the ineffectiveness of the dangerous Plan B contraceptive overdose toreduce surgical abortions or unwanted pregnancies. The Scotland government reported 13,081 abortions in 2006, up from 12,603 the previous year &#8212; an increase ofnearly 3.8%, and an all-time high.See news page<a href="http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=IF06H01" rel="nofollow">http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=IF06H01</a>- &#8211; -Plan B sometimes kills a living, fertilized human embryo by preventing implantation. Data is lacking to assure safe usage, especially for minors.See pharmacy page<a href="http://www.uspharmacist.com/index.asp?show=article&amp;page=8_1567.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.uspharmacist.com/index.asp?show=article&amp;page=8_1567.htm</a>and physician page<a href="http://www.physiciansforlife.org/content/view/48/2/" rel="nofollow">http://www.physiciansforlife.org/content/view/48/2/</a>- &#8211; -&#8221;Be it Enacted by the People of the State of Colorado:SECTION 1. Article II of the constitution of the stateof Colorado is amended BY THE ADDITION OF A NEW SECTION to read: Section 31. Person defined. AS USEDIN SECTIONS 3, 6, AND 25 OF ARTICLE II OF THE STATE CONSTITUTION, THE TERMS &#8220;PERSON&#8221; OR &#8220;PERSONS&#8221; SHALL INCLUDE ANY HUMAN BEING FROM THE MOMENT OFFERTILIZATION.&#8221;. . . proposed amendment to the Colorado Constitution for the 2008 ballot, abolishing abortion in thatstate, by the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution[Colorado and Kansas are now the only states tolerating essentially unrestricted post-viable abortions, because of their inability to meaningfullyprosecute one criminal abortionist quack in Wichita and one in Boulder.]See equal rights page<a href="http://www.coloradoequalrights.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.coloradoequalrights.com/</a>- &#8211; -As for the breath of life, Adam, being created from dirt, had no umbilical cord. Today, babies long before birth breathe through the oxygen exchange in the placenta. Babies do not instantly change from being &#8220;not human&#8221; to human when they draw their first breath after the umbilical cord is cut. Ask any decent mother if her baby exhibited human characteristics and behavior before birth. Particularly between 12 and 20 weeks gestation, babies &#8220;walk&#8221;, kick, smile, yawn, hiccup, cry, swallow, wake, sleep, react to sound and pain, and suck their thumb.- &#8211; -As for IVF, I am not opposed as long as all the human eggs fertilized are implanted with the opportunity for live birth. Freezing and thawing will kill some fertilized embryos. I would prefer that nearly all orphans were adopted before promoting IVF instead of adoption.- &#8211; -</p>
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		<title>By: Chas.</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 03:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And  so,  as sundown  once again enfolds  the little City that wished it Could,   the  nightly  invasion of  Trolls  has  begun its  sad infiltration....   Time  to now  Walk on by!!!   Nite  all!!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And  so,  as sundown  once again enfolds  the little City that wished it Could,   the  nightly  invasion of  Trolls  has  begun its  sad infiltration&#8230;.   Time  to now  Walk on by!!!   Nite  all!!</p>
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		<title>By: Chas.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chas.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 03:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Outlander,  dont  even  go there...  thats just plain  fundamentalist  Hype,  and  extremely poor  interpretation of  Bible  texts...   Extremely poor  interpretations!!!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Outlander,  dont  even  go there&#8230;  thats just plain  fundamentalist  Hype,  and  extremely poor  interpretation of  Bible  texts&#8230;   Extremely poor  interpretations!!!</p>
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