Maybe Bill should try holding his breath

Hillary Clinton has gotten much better as a public speaker and campaigner, but she still can’t compete with her husband, who sometimes upstages her “simply by breathing,” the New York Times reported. It’s a tricky balance for the Clintons. The former president draws big crowds to his wife’s campaign events. But when he speaks he has to try “not to out-express or out-charm her,” the Times said. No easy task.
Posted by Phillip Brownlee

30 Comments

  1. political_mom
    Posted July 6, 2007 at 1:05 am | Permalink

    Amazing how an impeached president can have sucha loyal following still, huh?

    Perhaps the Repubs will think twice before trying to beat up a President for BULLSHIT reasons, especially after what they elected after him.

  2. Posted July 6, 2007 at 1:09 am | Permalink

    I always liked Bill Clinton, defended him when he went through the impeachment hearings. But, he has a propensity to be a backslider on being intellectually honest on many issues. He’d rather charm that speak straight a lot of times.

    They don’t call him “Slick Willy” for nothing.

  3. Posted July 6, 2007 at 6:37 am | Permalink

    Damn, I really love ole’ Billy Clinton. Run again, Bill. I’ll vote for you, again.

  4. XXX
    Posted July 6, 2007 at 6:56 am | Permalink

    Considering what we have now, Clinton looks pretty good. Too bad we can’t bring him back in ‘08 to clean up the mess these jokers have made.

  5. Long Time Poster, First Time Lurker
    Posted July 6, 2007 at 7:40 am | Permalink

    Pere Bush was elected in 1986 because he promised to continue Reaganism. But he was obervant enough to realize Reaganism was a prescription for economic disaster. Bill Clinton was elected because Reagnomics failed and George H.W. Bush couldn’t responsibly live up to the GOP’s “no new taxes” fantasy.

    Conservatives don’t want a responsible tax policy. Conservatives simply want (or *claim* they advocate) no taxes whatsoever. Sounds good as we’re headed toward the second Tuesday after the first Monday in November on even-numbered years. It’s not a policy for governing, it’s a strategy for winning elections.

    Think of all the meaningless “issues” the Republic Party has leveraged into political advantage: the Pledge of Allegience somehow worked for George H.W. Bush; the 10 Commandments in courtrooms worked in the Deep South for a while; immigration is nothing more than veiled racism, and it’s working for the GOP (whose most important contributors — big business — thrive on sub-standard wages paid to illegal aliens); religious bigotry is at the basis of the $275 Million Americans spend in Iraq every day…to what end?

    For the price of four weeks in Iraq, America could finance universal health care for a year. For the price of six months in Iraq, America could secure Social Security long past the Baby Boomer crisis. For the price of four years in Iraq, we could have developed an alternative to America’s addiction to oil.

    But no. “Conservatives” prefer to spend their treasure and their children’s blood to kill brown people.

    God bless America.

  6. Joe Williams
    Posted July 6, 2007 at 8:14 am | Permalink

    I like Bill Clinton too. But Hillary is no Bill Clinton, not even close. I think the sad thing about Democrats is they believe that Hillary will mean or will be another Bill.

    And with that long coat tail of Bill, Hillary will most likely be the nominee, although Bill Richardson is by far the better candidate for Democrats in the group of them seeking the Presidency.

  7. political_mom
    Posted July 6, 2007 at 8:37 am | Permalink

    Hillary WILL be like Bill, their policies will be almost identical I’m sure of it. She’s going to make an awesome leader. And I’m so ready to go back to a Clinton Era.

  8. Long Time Poster, First Time Lurker
    Posted July 6, 2007 at 8:37 am | Permalink

    “Joe Williams” –

    Hillary’s problem isn’t about competence. She’d likely become a great President of the United States.

    But her problem is her abilities as a candidate.

    We won’t know ’til it happens but I suspect the 2008 election will be decided on vision. Americans are overwhelmingly coming to the realization that what the party-in-power thinks might not be what we think America should be.

    Barak Obama’s “experience” seems like a false issue. He’s running on *vision.* America can be better than it’s been lately. Internationally — specifically in the Middle East — and globally (as with global pollution issues), and internally — that there are certain basic rights Americans have earned, one of those rights being healthcare…

    Just what has the Republic Party delivered after 12 years of domination of the federal government?

    It’s not an issue of how conservative you think you are. The so-called “conservatives” you’ve elected have proven themselves to be utterly incompetent at the tasks you’ve given them.

  9. RD
    Posted July 6, 2007 at 8:40 am | Permalink

    Joe,

    I agree about Richardson. I’d like to see him as the chosen candidate. He out-qualifies all the others. I became aware of him during Kerry’s campaign in ‘04 and was impressed with him and the way the people of N.M. seemed to like him.

    As for Hillary, no, she is not another Bill. Charisma is something a person is born with. Bill has it, as did JFK. Hillary doesn’t and she isn’t her hubby. She is NOT my choice. Never has been, never will be. But that doesn’t mean she won’t get my vote if she is chosen to be the candidate. The Republicans have no one worthwhile enough to even get my attention.

  10. shoveit
    Posted July 6, 2007 at 9:03 am | Permalink

    Now that’s a laugh to see Republican saying he liked Bill Clinton and defended him during impeachment proceedings.

    Come on Republican – haven’t you learned by now that the majority of Americans have caught on to the Republican lies from the past 6 years? Your boy, Georgie, has screwed your party.

    But to now somehow proclaim you liked Bill Clinton is really blasphemy – don’t you think? And, by saying this in a public forum, won’t you lose your dues paying card to the likes of Rush, Hannity, O’Reilly and that beautiful Ann Coulter?

  11. Posted July 6, 2007 at 9:12 am | Permalink

    I don’t listen to Rush, Hannity or O’Reilly. Your assumptions show just how little the Democritic Party understands true Republicans.

    I never started anything new about Bill Clinton, I voted for him the first time he ran – didn’t the second time.

    His campaign of no new middle income taxes was his first lie. Within days after he took office, he introduced legislation to increase taxes to the largest amount in American History, especially on the middle class.

    And unlike you, I never refer to Bill Clinton as “boy” or show disrespect for the former President. I may dislike his policies, but I preserve his dignity by acknowledging the fact he is a former President.

    You leftist liberals are totally wrong again, about what people actually think.

    I’ve never changed my mind on Bill Clinton. He’s intellectually bright, but has always had a problem being straight forward. He uses charisma too much instead of the purported wisdom based logic of John Kennedy style he is purported to have copied.

  12. fleettwood
    Posted July 6, 2007 at 9:14 am | Permalink

    “won’t you lose your dues paying card to the likes of Rush, Hannity, O’Reilly and that beautiful Ann Coulter?”

    This, from the same bunch who run to daily kos to be told how to think? HA!

  13. Joe Williams
    Posted July 6, 2007 at 9:31 am | Permalink

    One thing straight Long Time Poster, First Time Lurker. I’m not a conservative. Just to let you know.

    And no! Hillary will not make a great leader. She is a mediocre one. You’re not a great leader just because your name is Clinton or a Democrat.

    To be quite honest, we haven’t had great leaders as President for a long time.

  14. Mary Caruso
    Posted July 6, 2007 at 9:46 am | Permalink

    True, Hilary isn’t dynamic in anyway, and often comes across as abrasive or pandering. Her imitation of a black minister in front of her black audience was laughable and insincere.I never cared for Bill while he was in power, but do I ever miss him now! You don’t realize what you have until it’s gone.

  15. JTD
    Posted July 6, 2007 at 11:26 am | Permalink

    Too bad republicans took away my right to vote for whom I want to for president. I’d vote for Bill in a hot minute. As for how does an impeached president have such a loyal following? Look at your republicans and Nixon. You have two of his guys in the white house ruining our country right now!

  16. sam
    Posted July 6, 2007 at 12:12 pm | Permalink

    Looks like someone pushed Republican’s ‘protests too much’ button.

  17. Posted July 6, 2007 at 12:17 pm | Permalink

    Think so sam? Are you psychic?

    Tell me sam, what am i thinking right now?

  18. TDT
    Posted July 6, 2007 at 12:33 pm | Permalink

    I loved Bill Clinton when he was president, and voted for him both times. However, there’s something about Hilary that makes me uneasy about supporting her. I really like Obama, mainly because I want someone fresh in the White House, not someone who knows the political game too well. New ideas, a new perspective, a new approach to solving our major problems of this country is what I believe Obama would bring to the White House, and Hilary’s already had her chance.

  19. Wiseman
    Posted July 6, 2007 at 2:32 pm | Permalink

    Funny, how well the president’s success is depended on their administration staff.Funny, how well the presidential campaign success is depended on their campaign staff.Maybe we are looking at the wrong people on who is going to be president?Who are the people running Hillary’s campaign?

  20. Tony
    Posted July 6, 2007 at 3:36 pm | Permalink

    I have to say I’d like to see Bloomburg run for president…

    I think of any independent candidate to date, he has the best chance of winning.

  21. Ben
    Posted July 6, 2007 at 3:47 pm | Permalink

    Prediction – although still WAY too early. Hillary for President and Richardson for VP. AND – they win in a landslide over ‘whoever’

  22. Richard Heckler
    Posted July 6, 2007 at 4:49 pm | Permalink

    High Priority Issues For 2008 Political Campaigns

    Stop the character assassinations and get on with substantial discussion on the issues of:

    *Universal HealthCare

    *Bring the troops Home

    *Impeach Bush/Cheney

    *Halting the export of USA Jobs

    *Abuse of Presidential Power

    *Public Finance of Elections instead of Special Interest Finance of Electionshttp://www.publicampaign.org/

    * Implementing http://www.fairvote.org/irv/

    *How much are american citizens willing to pay for a barrel of oil?

    http://www.icta.org/press/release.cfm?news_id=12

    http://www.progress.org/gasoline.htm

    http://www.icta.org/doc/Real%20Price%20of%20Gasoline.pdf

    http://www.iags.org/costofoil.html

    http://nationalpriorities.org/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=182

  23. LHG
    Posted July 6, 2007 at 5:52 pm | Permalink

    Like Monica had to hold her breath?

    Some woman Hillary is, she can’t even satisfy her husband.

    And Bill practically falls asleep when he has to campaign with her and pretend to be most interested in her shrilly-voiced speeches.

    That voice, it’s enough to make anyone stray, not to mention how sexy she is!

  24. Kev
    Posted July 6, 2007 at 7:41 pm | Permalink

    I don’t consider Clinton to have been a great President. His administration was full of scandle and outright incompetence. He spent so much time dealing with that crap that he passed almost nothing of value to the American people. His wife reminds me of my worst grade school teacher. First she was for national health care then she was opposed to the very program she designed! Then she was for the war before she was against the war. But he was certainly 100% better than “The Fuhrer” we have now.

  25. Kev
    Posted July 6, 2007 at 7:43 pm | Permalink

    “I have to say I’d like to see Bloomburg run for president…

    I think of any independent candidate to date, he has the best chance of winning.”

    He will just siphon votes from the Democrat as Idiot Nader did. I liked Nader up until then.

  26. Kev
    Posted July 6, 2007 at 7:45 pm | Permalink

    “Pere Bush was elected in 1986 because he promised to continue Reaganism. But he was obervant enough to realize Reaganism was a prescription for economic disaster. ”

    Reaganism needs to be put in the same place where Reagan is. For good.

  27. Kev
    Posted July 6, 2007 at 7:55 pm | Permalink

    “To be quite honest, we haven’t had great leaders as President for a long time. ”

    America has never had a “great” President in my view because ALL of them to some extent or another stooped to money and politics over doing what is right and necessary for the country. Even FDR whom I think is one of the best we have ever had brought America to shame when his administration would not allow the ship St Louis to bring 200 Jews to the USA in 1939 almost certainly bringing about their extermination. A low point in American history- one of many. Even Washington and Lincoln had faults. But some are lots better than others and Bush is about the worst we have had since Hoover.

  28. shoveit
    Posted July 6, 2007 at 11:00 pm | Permalink

    Some woman Hillary is, she can’t even satisfy her husband.

    Spoken like a true neanderthal!

  29. RD
    Posted July 7, 2007 at 12:54 am | Permalink

    So, cramit, do you type all that or type a line and copy and paste it?

  30. lhg
    Posted July 8, 2007 at 4:19 pm | Permalink

    Bill wouldn’t have to hold his breath if Hillary would just bathe regularly.