The Kansas GOP is planning a new "loyalty committee" to punish party officials who endorse or contribute to Democrats, according to an Associated Press article.
Some moderates fear that they’re the targets of the conservative-dominated state party organization.
Secretary of State Ron Thornburgh said, "It gives me pause for thought anytime someone requires a loyalty oath of anyone from any organization."
It does sound creepy. What’s next: GOP kids who squeal on their parents?
Andy Wollen, president of the moderate group Kansas Traditional Republican Majority, said the panel sounded like something from the Inquisition.
"When you hear the term loyalty committee, what runs through your mind?" he said. "Joseph McCarthy. George Orwell."
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As if the Republican party does not look out of touch with the public anyway, we now have to go and prove it.
Will have to hold hot irons to see if we burn to prove what we believe?
That sound you hear is more Repuiblicans changing their affiliation to independent and Democrat.
This is a dumb idea.However, what are the enforcement provisions?
If the Party simply wants to deny Party funding in the General Election Cycle for someone who openly endorsed a Democrat, in the last election cycle, I can see their point, but WHY make the criterion for that decision so public? Well, it is their right to do so. However, you win elections through ADDITION to your side and SUBTRACTION from the other side. What does this open debate accomplish?
Moreover, how do we recruit existing Democrats, to the Republican Party, with those rules in place?
How could we win any converts?
Are you telling me that the former Dem who HAD to endorse other Dems, while a Dem, would be “excused” while the “life long Republican” would not be funded, even if they BOTH had endorsed the SAME Democrat, in the last election?
I think, if the Republican Party believes it would be helpful to hold office holders to account, the MOST they should do is publicly list those Republican elected officials who have publicly endorsed or donated to Democrats and inform the Party members that those candidates do not have a “right” to insist on Republican loyalty when they, themselves, run for office the next time around.
Even so, that seems like a no-brainer to me.
You can’t push a rope! We need to attract members, not repulse them. Loyalty is earned, not mandated.
A Republican who makes a habit out of supporting Democrats SHOULD draw a primary challenge. If that primary challenger does NOT make “loyalty” an issue, then it must not be an issue. If “loyalty” becomes an issue, in that campaign, then it it up to the primary voters to sit as “judge and jury” on the “loyalty” issue.
Anyway, the whole thing is problematic. We should settle these things in the primary, and not with rules and regs out of the State Committee.—
By the way, the Democrats have been requiring “loyalty oaths” of their own, lately.Dem Presidential candidates are asked to pledge that they will NOT shop at Walmart.Dem Presidential candidates don’t dare appear on Fox news.Dem Presidential candidates will not even dare attend the “moderate” DLC or Democrat Leadership Conference meetings.The Eagle won’t bring up those issues, however.
This is more about appearance than reality. Basically, Republican officials are expected to not endorse, work for, or contribute to Democratic candidates in contested seats. Well, duh. If you’re a Republican official, that kinda goes without saying, don’t it?
If you’re a Democratic party official, I’d expect the same; one simply does not work for, contribute to, or endorse the opposition.
As the article notes, such a process is not particularly unusual. Democrats may well have a similar procedure; it would not surprise me, nor woult it be unusual or shocking. The obligatory references to “Orwell” or “McCarthy” have about as much relevance as the typical Godwin’s law violation seen regularly here.
Not something I’d have advised; and I’d probably have opposed same, more out of perception and the public relations and appearances problem generated (like this topic) than anything else. This is the proverbial molehill, to be sure. But you won’t get that impression from the DU/Daily Kos crowd on this blog, I’ll bet. What else is new?
Yawn. Next subject.
Those so charged will be subject to trial by fire!
New party slogan “Better Red than Dead.”
All I can say is that if the GOP is that insecure about its own party officials supporting its candidates and positions, maybe they ought to take a long look at those candidates and positions!
“Dem Presidential candidates will not even dare attend the “moderate” DLC or Democrat Leadership Conference meetings.”
Do you have a reference to that? This is the first I have heard of it.
The Repub. party needs to require that all those who claim to be Republicans take the oath. No More RINOs.
Dumb idea. Let those who wrote it up start chewing on the paper they wrote it on.
Not worth hog swill.
Man Randy,I hope this isn’t your day Job..
“but WHY make the criterion for that decision so public?”
Intimidation, man. Intimidation.
Paulie, goddammit, quit TWISTING things today.
“By the way, the Democrats have been requiring “loyalty oaths” of their own, lately.Dem Presidential candidates are asked to pledge that they will NOT shop at Walmart.Dem Presidential candidates don’t dare appear on Fox news.Dem Presidential candidates will not even dare attend the “moderate” DLC or Democrat Leadership Conference meetings.”
That is just misleading as HELL, if not an outright lie.
If some wingnut group asked the democrats to sign the no wal mart pledge, I DOUBT it was the Democratic Party itself. If it was, please post a link. Also post how many actually SIGNED UP. Were they threatened with NO dem support in future races? I think not. Nice twising there.
Was anyone required to SIGN a pledge on PAPER that they would NEVER appear on fux news? Was it REQUIRED by the democratic party to get future support? I dont think so, but nice try at conflation.
“Dem Presidential candidates will not even dare attend the “moderate” DLC or Democrat Leadership Conference meetings.”
How in the hell is THAT analogus to the kansas republican party loyalty pledge? Jesus wept paulie, you are REALLY stretching on that one.
Please post where the candidates were required to sign a pledge that they would NOT attend the DLC meeting? They didnt attend now, but you can bet your sweet ass the “base” knows why. They are pandering to the left now, and as soon as they are nominated they will be taking money and kissing ass with the DLC.
We know it. They know it. The dem party is divided now about the DLC for a LOT of reasons, not because they are “moderate”, but because they are in bed with the same corporate masters, the same military industrial complex that drive the whole damn REPUKE party.
“As the article notes, such a process is not particularly unusual. Democrats may well have a similar procedure; it would not surprise me, nor woult it be unusual or shocking.”
PURE speculation couched as fact counselor. Would a judge let you get away with that.
If there IS a dem loyalty oath similar to this, post it. Otherwise, quit smearing with the inuendo. BOTH parties do NOT do it.
Hey Paul, can you provide a link to the loyalty oaths that Democrats are required to sign? I’ve never been required to sign an oath so the Sedgwick County Democratic party is falling behind. I’m sure you’ll support your claim and not prove yourself to be a liar again.
I propose the taking of the Repub. party oath be accompanied by a rituual, say a ‘jump in’ by the oversight board, or at a minimum some blood letting ritual.
KFG -
There is no “loyalty oath” to sign and you know it. Republicans expect Republican officials to - gasp! - not support Democrats in contested races.
shocking.
From the article linked by Randy:*****The state committee’s actions struck a sour note for some Republicans, particularly moderates on issues such as abortion. Bob Beatty, a Washburn University political scientist, suggested the loyalty committee could prove a “public relations disaster.”
“Ironically, it smacks most of the Communist Party,” Beatty said Monday. “That’s the kind of public irony that most parties try to avoid — the party of freedom telling people they have no freedom.”*****Enough said.
“There is no “loyalty oath” to sign and you know it. Republicans expect Republican officials to - gasp! - not support Democrats in contested races.
“shocking.”
I agree that the above expectation is a “no-brainer”. Can you explain why your party would make this a requirement? What does that say about their expecations of their members?
Couldn’t have anything to do with the Attorney General and Lt. Governor, could it?
Nice try again at conflation GMC. There is no “loyalty” oath like the one posted on the blog.
But the ACTIONS of the republican party this weekend regarding “loyalty” are VERY real.
you keep wanting to imply that since the written pledge stuff posted here was bogus, the very REAL actions of the republicans this weekend are also bogus.
Sorry gmc. And you know better to twist logic like that.
AND I see you STILL havent corrected your unfounded speculation on DEMOCRATS requiring similar things.
Do the members have to take the oath wearing poopy diapers?
“The Kansas GOP is planning a new “loyalty committee” to punish party officials who endorse or contribute to Democrats, according to an Associated Press article.”
Admit it GMC. This is REAL, not bogus like the blog suggested oath.
I know you dont like to admit your party did this but they did. And they THREATENED those who dont fall into line.
No dissent allowed INSIDE your party? Support withdrawn for those candidates who believe a democrat in a specific race might be better than the republican candidate?
Yes. Gasp. Shocking.
At the risk of invoking Godwin, do you gestapo much? Loyalty uber alles?
Ah - Steven Davis wins the prize. I wondered how long it would take to get the Godwin-like reference.
And KFG, I’m so sorry you have difficulty with facts, like what you now admit were bogus “loyalty pledges” you referred to. That’s your problem, not mine.
Keep setting up that strawman.
Comes now one GMC who says he will not blog if it requires registration but has no problem with GOP requiring a loyalty oath.
As for the Democrats “having something similar.”
We don’t.
What straw man GMC? YOU are the one conflating two different issues. I am clear on the difference, are you?
I think gmc just doesnt like it when he conflates and twists logic and then gets CAUGHT doing it.
Dems. are not single minded. Which is why Air America wasn’t overly succesful. We like to think for ourselves,
Capn -
“Comes now one GMC who says he will not blog if it requires registration but has no problem with GOP requiring a loyalty oath.”
. . . And those are related, just how, exactly?
Oh - and as has been admitted, there is no “loyalty oath.” Never was.
Let’s see; so you Dems have no problems with Democratic officials (not just persons who identify themselves as Democrats, mind you, but Democratic party officials) giving endorsements and dollars to Republicans in contested races?
Riiiight. And monkeys will fly out . . . well, you know.
Isn’t this new Republican loyalty oath the brainchild of Kris Kobach? He may be a law professor but he has the good sense God gave a snail. But that is certainly OK with the Kansas Democratic Party.
And there are no Democratic Party loyalty oaths. Ask Walt Chappell, who switched from R to D to run against Brenda Landwehr in 2006. No one ever asked him to look at, review or consider signing an oath.
“Let’s see; so you Dems have no problems with Democratic officials (not just persons who identify themselves as Democrats, mind you, but Democratic party officials) giving endorsements and dollars to Republicans in contested races?”Posted by: GMC70 | July 31, 2007 at 03:51 PM
GMC,I think it’s more a matter of democrats not threatening people for thinking independently. Or at least they aren’t making the threat openly.
The conservative wing of the Kansas republican party has gone so far to the right that they’ve fallen off the edge of the planet. Too bad they’re the ones in control of the party.
For those of you republicans who aren’t ideologically pure enough to be accepted by the Kansas republican party, please feel free to join those of us who are Independent or Progressive; your votes are always welcome.
And we won’t make you sign any kind of “Manifesto”.
Kelly -
The Dems can have Chappell. We’re glad to be rid of him.
Kelly -
The Dems can have Chappell. We’re glad to be rid of him.
Hi Kelly - and you know there ain’t no way you would ever get me to sign a loyalty oath. We might agree on a number of things but last time I checked we also lock horns a bit. But that doesn’t keep us from working together.
There is no “oath” to sign, in the Republican Party, and no such signature on any such “oath” has been proposed.
What do you want from me? I said I thought this was a dumb idea. However, it is only fair to point out the EQUALLY radical and dumb ideas comming out of the left, where Democrat Party politics are concerned.
Collectively, I have been called a liar, up thread, by one person and then told that I was making things up, by someone else.
However, Collectively, the left keeps bring up “loyalty oaths” when I don’t see that anyone has even proposed such a thing, in the KS GOP.
This is what happens when the Religious nutjobs get control of a political party. it’s too bad that the Republicans have turned into the party of fools.
I say just give them enough rope and they will hang themselves.
Dem Pres Candidates did not attend DLC meeting:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2007-07-30-dems-dlc_N.htm?csp=34
As for Dems trying not to upset the base of their party, well, duh, yah, —
Candidates in BOTH parties try not to upset the base.
Except, maybe, McCain, had did that work?
There is and was no OATH in the GOP — therefore, why must I PROVE that their is an OATH to “SIGN” in the Dem Party, concerning Fox News, the DLC or Walmart?
January should be good. We may start seeing a few replacment committeemen, committeewomen, and lawmakers installed in place of the RINOs.”Big Tent” means a party that stands for nothing.
Obama and Walmarthttp://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2007/05/23/michelle-obama-cuts-a-wal-mart-link/?mod=yahoo_hs
Parkay
Replace the people you dont like, in the primary, and then shut up.
By kicking out everyone who might want to stay, and perhaps VOTE Republican, you doom yourself to a very “pure” failure.
“Party of fools”
I like that! Instead of just an elephant, the GOP symbol can be an elephant with a clown riding on top (maybe in a cowboy hat).
Thanks Repubs for such a grand time!
parkay -
Econ’s right. Demanding ideological purity is a sure way to lose. We agree on more than we disagree, and as Ronald Reagan said (and I’m paraphrasing), a person I agree with 80% of the time is not my enemy.
Reagan was also the Republican that could be cordial at the end of the day with those he disagreed with.
That type of politician went out when the Conservative Religious Right Republicans of 1994 came into power and destroyed any sense of propriety in the Congress.
It was this group that went after Bill Clinton with a vengeance and would take no prisoners. That is what happens when you mix religion and politics.
“Reagan was also the Republican that could be cordial at the end of the day with those he disagreed with.”
That would be welcomed on this blog, wouldn’t it? It’s become take no prisoners politics, true enough.
But both parties have fully participated in getting us there.
Paul you said the Democrats had a loyalty oath so it’s up to you to prove your claim. If you can’t then it’s safe to say you are a liar. Since I’m a Democratic Precinct Committeeman and I voted for two Republicans last election I’m wondering if I’m going to be kicked out for violating this loyalty oath you say I signed onto.
So where is it Paul? Or are you going to tell another lie to get out of your first lie?
Does anyone still see a need for a two party system?
I think it is time we move past lables of ‘Republican’ and ‘Democrat’ and focus on ‘American’
I join in your wish that we could find common ground as Americans, not accuse each other of being evil or unpatriotic, and that we could pledge to always engage in disciplined discussions, though sometimes passionate.
GMC claims it is not a loyalty oath.
Strange then that Ron Thornburg called it a “loyalty oath” and Andy Wollen called it “something from a loyalty committee.”
But it’s more of that magical, faith-based thinking from the Republicans.
“We know where the WMD’s are in Iraq.”
“There’s no global warming.”
“We’re winning the war against terrorism.”
“America doesn’t torture prisoners.”
“America doesn’t illegally spy on people.”
“Valerie Plame Wilson was never covert.”
“The vast majority of my tax breaks go to those at the bottom of the economic ladder.”
“There’s a new sheriff in town, one who’s dedicated to fiscal responsibility.”
“The Vice President’s office is not part of the Executive branch.”
“George W. Bush won in 2000. Get over it.”
“Mission Accomplished.”
“The Dems can have Chappell. We’re glad to be rid of him.”
Thanks for the offer, but no thanks!
“Ah - Steven Davis wins the prize. I wondered how long it would take to get the Godwin-like reference.”
The Godwin law can be abused and invoked when it does not apply; this is more likely to happen when posters of weak ideologies don’t like the arguments available to them. You Lose - GMC - but, I am betting you’re used to that.
“However, Godwin’s Law itself can be abused, as a distraction or diversion, that fallaciously miscasts an opponent’s argument as hyperbole, especially if the comparisons made by the argument are actually appropriate. A 2005 Reason magazine article argued that Godwin’s law is often misused to ridicule even valid comparisons.[7]”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin’s_Law
Just to clarify: I am not a Republican, but I think Kansas needs a functioning Republican party. As the KS GOP is overtaken by the far right, it suffers.
Doug
ISaidNOSuchThing!
All of that is true, Steven. I’m simply waiting for that “valid comparison;” you certainly haven’t made any.
“You lose?” Surely you can do better than that; that ranks right up there with “your momma wears Army boots.”
Capn - keep that straw man propped up. It’s much easier taking shots at it than facts, certainly.
If the Democrats hadn’t infiltrated the Republican party and held themselves out as Republicans we wouldn’t need a loyalty oath.
If you libs would stop lying about who and what you are the Republicans wouldn’t have to roust out all of the quislings and spies.
Brian:
The reason why we can’t get rid of the Democrat label is because they aren’t Americans, they’re traitors who have debased every institution we have from our free press, to our legal system.
Dems to save the day? For who, Osama yo Mama? Hugo Chavez? The Iranian whack job? Traitors one and all.
Dems to save the day? For who, Osama yo Mama? Hugo Chavez? The Iranian whack job? Traitors one and all.
Posted by: Wichita, home of the Fourth Reich | July 31, 2007 at 10:11 PMFor the Saudis right, is that who the repubs want to save the day for, but the dems are Traitors right. your the whack job!
This is a GOP “Purge” of those that disagree with the Kansas Khristian Talibahn. That would be those in this state that are so obsessed with sex, but are so sexually repressed they cannot make a decision on anything else. My God, these people have lost their collective minds.
I am and have been a GOPer for quite a while, but the GOP is leaving me. First we have Mel Martinez in charge of the National Party with his lying and illegal alien supporting platform whist bible banging, and we have the “true belivers” of Kansas Bible Bangers who think we need a “Christian GOP” only and no one else is invited. Oh, and BTW, they will decide what that decision of what “Christian” is. Better not have any catholics there, be cause then all the rest are not really “christian either”, according to the Pope.
Here is my letter of resignation to the State GOP. These idiots can bite me.
“You have to be kidding me, right? Why on God’s green earth in these United States do we need this? If this is what you assholes call “leadership” count me out of the GOP. I am tired of the GOP NOT being conservative on their political stance, and spending all their political capital on “social conservatism” which has NOTHING to do with Goldwater Conservatism. What you are doing is facism.
I want to know who the idiot was that came up with this stupid and putrid idea.
This is a “purge” pure and simple.
I am now leaving the GOP as there is nothing here except “Bible Bangers” being represented here. No one is representing me in the party. You have turned this into the “Kansas Khristian Talibahn”, the KKT.
IF this is the indication of the “leaders” in Kansas GOP, it just shows that you are rejecting the “true” conservatives, and the “RINO’s” are those supporting illegal immigration, while spending political capital and credibility on things such as the “Evolution debacle”, and abstinence sex education only, and all your other obsession about being sexually repressed.
You are the ones with the mental illness here, and VERY POOR POLITICAL JUDGEMENT and no leadership here whatsoever.
You are not increasing membership here, you are “purging” the membership.
Those that are left to follow you will only be able to donate to the church or the GOP, but not both. How will you fund your elections?
This state is gonna turn blue.
You f’ing make me sick.”
If this were football, and a Raider’s fan was wearing a KC Chief’s jersey at a game in Kansas City, the crowd would ignore the cheers for the Raiders and against the Chiefs just because of the Chief’s jersey?
Would this be a “loyal” Chief’s fan that is cheering for the Raiders?
You can make the same argument with any sports rivals — pick your favorite two.
How is politics different from football?
Nothing has changed but perception.
This is not the first decade where people changed parties or re-invented their parties.
Relax…
breath inbreath out
I have taken an oath that trumps and supercedes all the others, it started out with: “I pledge allegiance to this flag….” You know the rest, if not why are you here?
The Democrats should do the same thing. Hey, if you want to be on this team, you don’t play with that team. You don’t give aid or comfort to the enemy. You destroy the enemy.
Republican CreedI am a Republican because …I believe the strength of our nation lies with the individual and that each person’s dignity, freedom, ability and responsibility must be honored.I believe in equal rights, equal justice and opportunity for all, regardless of race, sex, creed, age or disability.I believe free enterprise and encouraging individual initiative have brought this nation opportunity, economic growth and prosperity.I believe government must practice fiscal responsibility and allow individuals to keep more of what they earn.I believe the proper role of government is to provide for the people only those critical functions that cannot be performed by individuals or private organizations and that the best government is that which governs least.I believe the most effective, responsible and responsive government is government closest to the people.I believe Americans must retain principles that have made us strong while developing new and innovative ideas to meet the challenges of the times.I believe Americans value and should preserve our national strength and pride while working to extend peace, freedom and human rights throughout the world.Finally, I believe the Republican Party is the best vehicle for translating these ideals into positive and successful principles of government.
Econ - I heard on KNSS this morning that Sebelius has been working with the DLC on various issues. Can you tell me when she is being expelled from the Democratic Party?
I hope it is goddam soon, Ben!!!!
She is more republican than any republican.
Like most DLCers. I think it is FUNNY that the presidential candidates AVOIDED the DLC meeting. But you can bet they will take that DLC money AFTER the primaries.
Paul is right about the DLC, and about how chicken shit it is for the candidates to “pretend” not to be DLCers, then turn around after the nomination and suck up early and often to the DLC crowd.
What Pauli is WRONG about here, is that the DLCers were somehow “forced” not to attend, or were forbidden or not welcome.
Nope. They chose not to. Chickenshits.
Meet the new boss same as the old boss. They all serve the same master. The military industrial complex.
Gee, do ya think sebelius is angling for a VP nod by SUCKING up to the DLC?
Or is she just doing the bidding of her buddies?
No wonder the KDP had no loyalty committees or pledges. They are already republican enough. And if they werent? They are now with all the refugees from the ksgop.
I know the conventional wisdom is that we have three parties in the legislature. I think we only have one, with two flavors.
Republican lite and republican full fat and sugar. Take your pick, if you can tell the difference.
I wonder what the DLC policy is regarding water and the environment. Then I wonder if governor “leadership” cares.
OBVIOUSLY she cares nothing about water in her own state, and she has joe “darth cheney” harkins moving away from the water catastrophie to create a NEW disaster for the state’s water supply and environment over at the newly formed Kansas Energy Council.
You know KEC, the political dumping ground? Headed up by none other than mr. republican mark parkinson, and “staffed” (read RULED) by joe harkins.
Expect ethanol support, subsidies and protection from the KEC. Expect more useless windfarms that drive UP the cost of energy. Expect more IRRIGATION to benefit the owners of the ethanol plants.
And where the hell is the decision on Sunflower Electrics water sucking, carbon polluting coal worshiping powerplant?
I think they are still waiting on the political weather to change before handing stevie miller the entire southwest kansas WATER SUPPLY!!!
And the sheeple follow….
Don’t know about DLC but from Sedgwick County:
Strong support for wind; including building transmission lines. Western Kansas is a gold mine for wind.
Lots of concern about water especially in respect to irrigated corn for ethanol.
I am looking at BIOMASS for ethanol. That may be a truly renewable resource.
I am also pushing for major changes in water management; advocating a geomorphological approach. Today’s floodwaters may be tomorrow’s water resource.
Support for CRP and CREP is also an issue here in Wichita.
“Strong support for wind; including building transmission lines. Western Kansas is a gold mine for wind.”
Ben, with all due respect, I see that as Wichita supporting wind, as long as it isnt in YOUR backyard.
Did you read Peg’s blog yesterday about the harm that wind farms cause? I could support homeowner units easier than I can support these giant wind farms.
And BTW, the wind in the Flint Hills is generally considered better power generating than the wind in “western kansas”. And western kansas is a mighty big place. Not all wind is equal. And as for transmission lines, you all already HAVE the transmission lines.
So why not generate the power in the Flint Hills and the Gyp Hills where the cost is less using existing transmission lines? Why not generate the wind power where the wind is best, in eastern kansas?
Or is it just as case of “not in my backyard” for eastern kansas?
“Lots of concern about water especially in respect to irrigated corn for ethanol.
I am looking at BIOMASS for ethanol. That may be a truly renewable resource.”
I also support research on biomass, but could you please put the ethanol plants in eastern Kansas and use YOUR water for the processing? Even if ethanol used NO corn, it is still energy negative and uses HUGE amounts of water for making it.
More “not in my backyard”?
I see the trend. Western Kansas is a great dumping ground for all the support industries needed to maintain life as you know it in Wichita?
I get the concern you all have about irrigation in general and irrigated corn in particular.
But… funny thing… I have NEVER seen anyone from EASTERN or SOUTHERN kansas in topeka lobbying for saner water POLICY!!!!
And…another funny thing… the last time I checked, there were more members on the Kansas Water Board from SOUTH of I-70 than NORTH of I-70.
You all have the power on the water board. And what have you all done with it?
(crickets chirping)
Oh, I forgot. You all propelled sebelius to ANOTHER water raping term of office. And through your loyalty to sebelius, you also enabled joe harkins to phuck up ethanol just like he did water policy when he was the “acting” director of the Kansas Water Office.
I am not picking on you Ben, because I know your personal concerns and activism are real.
But when you say “from sedgewick county” I take that to mean from the democratic party of the county or the voters of the county, or whatever.
And as a group, sedgewick county has done ZERO in terms of statewide water policy. Or energy policy.
kfg, speaking for myself, as myself, I agree that if we’re to have wind farms, the Flint Hills makes eminently more sense than does Western Kansas as the appropriate site for the same. As Eastern Kansas, and in particular Northeastern Kansas has more water, both in terms of annual rainfall and reservoirs, etc., should Ethanol plants really be desirable, then the same should be sited there, not in the semi-arid Western part of the state.
I regret to say that ’tain’t likely to happen, though.
“I regret to say that ’tain’t likely to happen, though.”
I totally agree, VT. THEY dont want it in THEIR backyard, but hot damn, they sure are supportive of it being in OUR backyard.
They have the votes, we dont. If they wanted ethanol plants and wind farms in eastern kansas, they would be there.
The fact is, that eastern kansas voters want to dump all this in western kansas and RAPE the natural resources and the environment out here.
After all, no humans live out here right? And the ones dumb enough to live out here deserve what they get? The state line really stops at Salina, and west of there, we just exist to provide for EASTERN kansas?
Yep, that’s harsh. But it is freakin’ true. Let’s see some folks from the east side of that line own it.
If they dont want to own it? They can do something about it. But what do ya bet…
…crickets chirping?
Wouldn’t it be nice if our elected officials put loyalty to America (and maybe to the Human race) ahead of loyalty to The Party!
Ben
I do not think that our Gov is running for Pres, is she???
Those who are running for President are scared to death of the left wing Dems.
Farmgirl
I never said “forced” in my comments about the candidates avoiding the DLC meeting.
I do believe that none of the Dem candidates wants to piss off the left wing of their party.
Loyalty by different means, perhaps?
I will give your side more credit, today, than I give to mine: YOU KNOW HOW TO SCARE THE CRAP OUT OF YOUR CANDIDATES WITHOUT SENDING OUT A FREAKING PRESS RELEASE ABOUT SCARING THE CRAP OUT OF YOUR CANDIDATES!
Eurowings Co. is a major wholesale supplier of electronics to on-line stores around the world. We offer our customers a unique sales pattern enabling them to exhibit and sale goods which are not in stock. Thus, warehousing and logistic costs are minimized.Summarized description of Guarantee Manager responsibilities.In the event guarantee case arises in connection with the item of the goods we supply or store at our warehouse the end user returns the faulty goods to on-line store. The on-line store, in its turn, sends the faulty item to the nearest Guarantee Manager who inspects the goods in order to establish external damages, makes the corresponding report and delivers the goods in question to the service centre for repair or specified outlet for discount sale.Requirements to be met by the applicants:- Age limit: 18 and older- Listing, Selling items at Ebay- PC user (MS Word, Internet, E-mail), Printer- Personal qualities: honesty, precision, conscientiousness, industriousness, responsibility- EU (Germany, Austria, France, Spain, Denmark) resident- Stable internet connection at home.- Prepare and process shipping documents: Slips, Bills of lading, etc.- Follow directions and routines- Knowledge of English (Basic)Persons who will be accepted for this job will follow these simple instructions:1. Receive the merchandise and payment for it from our partners to his/her residential address;2. Report to our manager (every candidate will be included in manager’s lists)3. Repack received items following the instructions our manager will send to you.4. List and sell received items at Ebay.DE. (Powersellers will have double salary 60 EUR\box)5. Receive money from our company for shipping and payment for each shipped out package. First trial month we offer 30 EUR/each shipped out box6. Fill the forms and papers as it will be shown in our managers instructions (you will receive e-mail with instructions for each box).7. Ship the package out using the specified shipping method.Please, pay attention that applicants are not required to have higher education. If you have decided to apply, fill in the form:Personal InformationFirst name:Last name:Address:City:Country:Postal zipcode:Phone #:Cell #:E-mail:And send an e-mail with your personal information to our Personnel Department: eurowingsgc@yahoo.comPlease be free to ask us any questions you will have.
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“YOU KNOW HOW TO SCARE THE CRAP OUT OF YOUR CANDIDATES WITHOUT SENDING OUT A FREAKING PRESS RELEASE ABOUT SCARING THE CRAP OUT OF YOUR CANDIDATES!
Hee hee hee hee hee hee hee heeee!
Gotta say Paul, THAT’s a damn good one!!!
Jed - I agree with you and will add that with the .DE extension on the address it appears to be an off-shore ‘re-shipping’ scam.
Maybe I should post the information about your huge inheritance from your long-lost cousin who tragically died in an airplane accident in Nigeria.
Ben,Looked like a scam to me too, but I couldn’t verify it enough to state that. Thanks!
Text of the Loyalty Amendment:
Statement on the Loyalty Amendment
Topeka - Kansas Republican Party Executive Director, Christian Morgan, released a statement clarifying the loyalty amendment that was passed on Saturday by the Kansas Republican Party State Committee.
“On Saturday, the Kansas Republican Party State Committee passed an amendment to the Kansas Republican Party Constitution. It states in part: ‘County, district or state (party) officers, who by any documented public action donate, contribute or endorse a candidate other than the Republican nominee in a contested, partisan campaign for public office in the state of Kansas, shall forfeit their official title and all rights associated with it under the rules of the Kansas Republican Party.’
“When the State Committee passed this amendment, we finally took the step of becoming the Republican Party. Not the moderate party or the conservative party nor a party of a particular ideological group. But rather we became the Republican Party, with the singular goal of seeking to enact the wishes of the Republican electorate in general elections regardless of ideological beliefs,” stated Kansas Republican Party Executive Director Christian Morgan.
Morgan continued, “Following the primary, every Republican candidate in Kansas can trust that Kansas Republican Party officials will stand behind them and not aid candidates nominated by opposing parties.”
“This amendment to the Kansas Republican Party Constitution was one of my highest priorities as party chairman. It is time for every Republican candidate to know that they will have the full support of the Republican Party and all of its officials behind them heading into the General Election. What the Kansas Republican Party did on Saturday is similar to provisions which exist in many other Republican parties across the nation” stated Chairman Kris Kobach.
“‘County, district or state (party) officers, who by any documented public action donate, contribute or endorse a candidate other than the Republican nominee in a contested, partisan campaign for public office in the state of Kansas, shall forfeit their official title and all rights associated with it under the rules of the Kansas Republican Party.’”
Oh MY GOD!!! Republican party officials are expected to back - gasp - Republicans!
Man the barricades, we’re near the end of civilization . . . . .
[. . . still looking for the “oath” . . . ]
TD,”This state is gonna turn blue.”
Better dead than Red!
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