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- By Phillip Brownlee
- Posted July 11, 2007 at 1:00 a.m.
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What did you guys do this blog while I was out of town to cause the picture change? I liked the picture of downtown better. I complained.
Post your problems that involve the city or a business, something wrong in the County.
Something good in the community to promote.
This is a challenge sometimes because of other posts about city projects.
Local posts will get lost in the Open blogs that are mostly about politics there.
I requested the City picture again to give this blog a focus.
Wild West World is a mess and Terry Fox is in the middle of it.
I am just sorry for all of those who bought season passes. Especially those who bought them Sunday and the park closed Monday
More dilly-dallying on parking for the Old Town Arena:
http://www.kansas.com/news/local/story/119212.html
“Arena parking plan must waitSedgwick County staff will spend two months sifting through a consultant’s data before the consultant makes recommendations on parking.”
How about just using the $19.4 million earmarked for parking in the agreement and some of the additional $9 million earmarked for additional parking and infrastructure in that agreement? It is what was represented by the promoters.
Coliseum casino looking less likely:
http://www.kansas.com/news/local/story/119321.html
“County reconsiders casino at ColiseumBY BARBARA J. ISENBERGThe Wichita EagleSedgwick County commissioners are rethinking turning the Kansas Coliseum into a destination casino, but aren’t abandoning the idea just yet.
A destination casino would not be the only possible use of the Coliseum, commissioners decided Tuesday, and they want to keep their options open for any other development ideas.
The commissioners directed the county staff to withdraw a request for proposals, put out June 27, that restricted developers to submitting proposals to transform the Coliseum into a casino.”
Maybe they see the handwriting on the wall. The casino vote will fail.
Ben,
There were clearly not enough County Commissioners replaced last election cycle. Hopefully we can change that in 08 and 2010.
Agreed Tom. Esepcially Unruh.
Actually Ben, just as the story you posted states. The original request for proposels only had a “casino” in mind. But there were plenty of people willing to submit ideas for the facility other than a Casino.
We discussed this in great length in past postings.
So what they did was withdrawl the “casino only” proposal and will resubmit open proposals for anything and everything.
Has nothing to do with the casino vote. I however notice you have switched to the Terry Fox side on this issue and are on the “no” side now. That’s fine.
Good luck!
Ben,
Unruh isnt’ up again until 2010.
Damn.
Ben,
I disagree about the Casino possibilities. Many not focused on politics, will vote yes. The party crowd votes for this.
Many people wanting liquor on Sunday, them too. Smokers! They can’t quit, why not gamble. Its freedom to do that.
Sports folks most will vote yes. Sporting icons are in out of Vegas gambling their riches away.
Men will vote yes over the no’s. Most guys want to gamble a little bit.
Women are difference here. What do they feel about gambling. Some think its exciting, others have concerns about it. Their family budgets could be at risk.
Those who challenge religions will vote yes. Religions support the No vote.
Is this a religious project or civic improvement? I see much civic improvement over the negatives of gambling.
County is acting odd about the Coliseum. The Bob Knight group talking in their ears.
It’s not a viable place for a casino if Ruffin isn’t thinking about putting his idea out there.
Maybe he wouldn’t care if next door to his Gilley’s bar and dog track with slots. His slots would be affected, so I don’t think he would support that at all.
City in the County’s face as well. The process benefits City better if casino within City limits.
Is the County wanting to get out of the “dirt” shows business? if the Coliseum is destroyed where would those events go?
This is why I mentioned there could be two arena’s used. If downtown arena had a corporate partner, its more possible County could run both facilities.
Coliseum needs upgrading. It was too small. We needed a larger arena in a better location, downtown.
The parking consultation process I don’t like but understand it.
Is Chilton’s Billiards onTopeka? That block has to be bought out. There has to be some open surface parking directly in front of the Arena.
There are other blocks to redevelop into parking or parking garage. Where that old school is.
Another spot with buildings and businesses is a perfect location for a parking garage. The key thing is putting the parking garage in the proper location.
It’s going to take time for the County and City to realize that.
The arena will have enough surface parking within two blocks walk, someday.
Right now its all about constructing the arena and I’m hoping a corporate steps in to help. I asked pointed questions to contacts and they could say its not possible, but haven’t.
I don’t discuss anything with my contacts corporate CEO’s. I hope corporates understand when they move executives to Wichita, the arena is supposed to be part of the lifestyle here.
There is marketing possibility for corporates promoting events, plus they aren’t paying for the staff in the arena. Won’t have to pay full electrical bills.
Why are corporates putting their names on arena’s in other locations.
Some do it late in the construction process too. The key point is construct a well respected arena that has long term marketing potential.
Ours with 15,000 seats doesn’t have long term marketing possibilities at all. Three years from now it will be really small in this regional market.
The MVC recently considering possibly moving their tournament around from St. Louis and Wichita isn’t on the list?
That’s stupid! We should have an arena that’s a viable place for those type of events that travel around. Those events require 18,000 for basketball.
*Brownlee says the City picture will return to the Community thread. He was out of town too.
Torn on this one…
Tempted to vote for it ’cause the fundies don’t want it. But I don’t have a strong interest in it.
Wrong Joe; I simply made a prediction. I predicted that UCLA would not win the NCAA although I hoped that they would. I am still wavering on my casino vote. I just wish I had some concrete details. I think it is the lack of such details and the “trust me” attitude of government officials that will defeat the vote.
J R – good point!
Actually, it’s too bad they didn’t get liquor on the ballot. That would have increased turnout which would, in turn, have helped the casino.
Other prediction: very low turnout.
dam typepad… crashed and I lost my entire post… n e way, here is the jist of it…
mrage.
large surface lots should be outlawed in downtown… surface lots are the biggest waste of space.
leave chiltons alone… they are just fine where they are. we don’t need your arena taking out more successful businesses.
Tony – isn’t Chilton’s a taxpaying corporate citizen of downtown? Mtage – are you volunteering to make up the tax revenues lost? And are you going to pony up the money to buy them out?
When Chilton moved, they specifically moved downtown to have a central location. Kicking them out is a bad idea and giving the WRONG impression about moving into downtown…
I agree Tony – I remember that move. They ‘voted with their money’ that they had faith in downtown and in the Gilbert-Mosley project. So, it should come as no surprise that the arena crowd wants to screw them over.
This is one of the reasons the casino vote will fail. The Arena crowd is much more tightly connected to the casino than the church crown is to the anti-casino. And now the Arane crowd tells us to ‘trust us this time’ with another pig-in-a-poke.
Joe! and Mrage cannot label true loyal Wichitans like Russ Meyer and Charlie Chandler as CAVE people or Wichita-haters. So Joe!’s new one is to call them “the Terry Fox side on this issue”
Well, I am still undecided but in no way would be ashamed to be associated with meyers and Chandler. They have done more for Wichita in ONE DAY than Wolverton has in his entire life!
Tony,
Chilton’s has been there a long time. Its only one block right of the arena that would be surface parking.
You desire levels to be constructed, that’s possible. Two or three level garage. Surface parking is the cheapest plan after paying Chilton to relocate.
Couple of other buildings on that block, I don’t know what they are.
Ben,
The Casino downtown will take place of Chilton’s tax wise. Who says they have to move far away. They could still be downtown in a different building. I don’t know where yet. WaterWalk possibly?
The location where they are is block right in front of the arena and instead of them worrying about people parking in their lot, accept the move.
It could take a few months as a new place is found. No rush. If a business isn’t forced from their location too fast, some are able to move.
If I was in control of parking for the area, that would be my decision. One surface parking lot right in front of the arena.
Hey Marge,
Are you going to make up the rent difference for moving them into waterwalk? That would be a tremendous increase in rent.
There should not be ANY more surface parking lots. Garages only. surface parking would be allowed in small amounts, i.e. door side parking at businesses, restaurants, etc… but anything larger or multi-tenant buildings, garages necessary.
There are already surface lots south of Waterman and across Topeka at the corner of Broadway and William. Why do we need more?
The county should build the garage like they said they were going to in the vote yea campaign.
Tony,
The City murmured about parking ideas on land they didn’t own.
Chilton’s block has to be part of that thinking.
WaterWalk lease would be taken care of in the relocation package they would accept.
Is that space available to be purchased? I don’t know what WaterWalk is doing, just leasing or ownership?
Who knows, Chilton’s may accept the move without too much complaining.
Maybe the City isn’t considering the lot, I’ll try to find out.
I’m going to ask who bought that old school. That’s a parking area.
A parking garage is necessary over the long term. There is time to consider where it should go.
That is real business idea for a developer, the City doesn’t have to build it. The City helps to clear land, using TIF bonds.
I was told its about $15,000 per space in a parking garage.
Ok Mrage…
Without getting in to the differences between rent at waterwalk (WW rent is $15+ per ft) and what Chilton spends where they are at (probably $3 per ft)… I’ll point out that the block Clinton is in is about 3/4ths parking today.
The block to the North and West of Chilton is 3/4ths surface parking. Why the need to tear down a perfectly good business for some parking?
As for where a parking garage should go? Attached to the Arena! There is plenty of space, IF YOU REMOVE THE VIP PARKING and build the arena properly.
I still say that the City should NOT be doing anything with parking regarding the arena. Parking was promised with the Vote Yea campaign.
Also, let me point out that to the South East of the Arena, on the other side of the tracks, there are a couple of huge parking lots…
Mrage – SHOW ME THE MONEY!
I am sure that if YOU come up with an offer that Chilton would take the move. SO DO IT ALREADY! BUT NOT WITH MY MONEY!
I was a part of that move; I helped smooth the way for the Gilbert-Mosley settlements. I GAVE that effort to my City free of charge.
How are you going to pay for that parking Mrage? Gonna get your corporates to do it? Come on, pony up the money! It was supposed to be in the budget but, as you said, we can’t believe anything they tell us (put down the pdfs – remember?)
“The Casino downtown will take place of Chilton’s tax wise.” Oh yea – Century II!
Mrage – how about you joining with me and calling for selling memberships in your Arena? 15,000 memberships at $1000 each might pay for parking. GO FOR IT! PUT UP OR SHUT UP!
Tony,
Best I can do is ask. Chilton’s maybe on City minds or not!
Chilton’s might not want to deal with Arena parking on their lot, is why give them a chance to relocate. There are security issues at night.
What are the other businesses on that block?
I know parking exists on other side of the tracks.
I don’t know the parking plan. I’m being obvious where the parking could be.
It’s not hard to figure out, though the County wants to take a couple more months.
Helping Chilton to move wouldn’t be that problematic. Especially if WaterWalk has space for them and a deal could be worked out. Some other location downtown could be viable.
The County has spend most of the tax on the arena, isn’t that obvious about construction costs rising.
City should take responsibility of the parking and I think they want it.
The yea vote said County take care of parking and they will. They will make a deal with the City.
If the City wasn’t interested they wouldn’t have held an informal meeting with County about it.
City has their own ideas of a parking plan.
“City should take responsibility of the parking and I think they want it.”
WHY? THE COUNTY REPRESENTED THAT THEY HAD MONEY BUDGETED FOR PARKING. THE CITY SHOULD NOT HAVE TO COVER FOR THAT MIS-REPRESENTATION.
“The yea vote said County take care of parking and they will. They will make a deal with the City.”
WITH WHAT MONEY? YOU BEING FREE WITH MY CITY TAXES NOW?
“Helping Chilton to move wouldn’t be that problematic.” WITH WHAT MONEY?
SHOW ME THE MONEY MRAGE! SHOW ME THOSE CORPORATES!
Ben,
Times change don’t they! What was realized years ago, is the way of progress today.
Nothing about destroying Century II is the plans.
Land around Century II is up for sale.
Chilton might want to move regardless. You can’t argue outrage for them.
How does the City pay for Chilton to move.
They sell land to the Casino!
You can promote memberships in the arena, I’ll keep pushing for corporate partnership.
My projects are west of the river, I’m just an interested supporter of the arena. I plan to attend events there when you won’t.
I could walk two or three blocks regardless of the weather. It would be possible to drop others off at the door and I find the place to park.Put up or shut up about the Casino, just say you’ll vote no already.
You regret voting for the arena.
By Diana Lynne© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com
Amid increasing evidence that child molesters are sexual predators for life, Florida lawmakers are considering life for sexual predators.
State Rep. Bob Allen, R-Merritt Island, hopes to seize the opportunity of a special legislative session that begins today and runs through Friday to make headway with his “Sexual Predators Elimination Act.”
The measure, HB 251, seeks mandatory life sentences without parole or eligibility for gain time for individuals designated as sexual predators. Under Florida law, these are individuals convicted of sexual battery on a child 12 or younger, repeat sexual offenders, sexual offenders who use physical violence and sexual offenders who use or threaten the use of a deadly weapon.
“We need to lock them up and throw away the key,” Allen told WND. Otherwise, he says, they continue to prey on children and teenagers to feed a need that never goes away.
“I’ve done a lot of research on it. I’ve gone with the officers and probation officers to the homes of sexual predators,” Allen continued. “One of the sexual predators said it the best: ‘I want to do better. But, sir, it’s like if someone tried to sit you down guaranteeing you’ll do 15 sessions of counseling, and in that 15 sessions I’m going to talk you out of your sexual preference and get you to do something else.’”
snip/
“We’re writing all of these wild zoning laws and imposing all this extra restriction and extra cost and doing all these machinations to accommodate a repeat offender hanging around us. When we can get away from all those … expensive law-enforcement time-wasting factors by simply going straight to the root of the problem, and that is the offender, and put them in a locked up place where we know we’re safe,’” said Allen.
“Mr. Allen is out to get votes,” responded George Crossley, president of the central Florida chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union. “I’m reasonably cynical enough to know that these folks really don’t care one way or another about what happens to
More here: http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=47726
and Vitter and it is even rumored that Cheney has visited ms pelfry a time or two…
now that is one sick woman who would touch him with anything
“Times change don’t they!” YEA; WHAT WAS REPRESENTED TO THE VOTERS HAS BEEN SHOWN TO BE FALSE!
“Nothing about destroying Century II is the plans.”
YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE IGNORED THE CANADA PROPOSAL!
“How does the City pay for Chilton to move.
They sell land to the Casino!’
WHICH LAND? AND WHAT ARE THE CONSEQUENCES FOR THE REST OF OUR FACILITIES DOWNTOWN WHEN YOU SELL IT ALL?
MRAGE – NOT ONE PENNY OF CITY MONEY SHOULD GO INTO YOUR ARENA. THE COUNTY AND VOTE YEA REPRESENTED THAT THEY HAD EVERYTHING BUDGETED FOR IN THE 184.5 MILLION. ARE YOU TELLING ME THEY ARE LIARS?
AND THEN YOU HAVE THE UNMITIGATED GALL TO TELL ME TO TRUST THAM ABOUT THE CASINO AND CENTURY II?????
Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me. They lied about the Arena, parking, infrastructure. Why should I believe them now?
Ant THAT, Mrage, is one of the reasons the casino vote will fail. And, of course, all the significant community leaders who have come out against it. I haven’t seen any similarly respected citizens come out in favor of the casino. But I sure have seen the Arena crowd there – wanting the money to bail out their Arena.
Prediction…
AT&T or Cox will buy naming rights… Only after the asking price is drastically reduced…
The City won’t sell Century II, whether you believe that or not.
The City taking over parking is their choice.
The arena plan isn’t being bailed out. Consider the County hasn’t put forth bids to construct the arena.
They don’t know if contractors can fall within budget.
So not to cut size of seats down or other amenities lost in the arena to save money, the County should go ahead and spend most of the tax collected on the arena.
Make sure the comfort level and amenities inside the arena are well done.
Corporate partnership I hope will increase seats and more size in the arena.
The comfort amenities should already be decided.
Taking care of arena parking is what the City wants to do.
Your concerned about Century II fine, that’s why the vote for the Casino exists.
Topeka will pick the site. Ruffin has much influence there, he may win.
Topeka understands he shouldn’t get all the slots in this county.
Wichita’s desired Casino plan should win.
This is common person’s vote, the “community leaders” can’t demand to know what’s best for us.
Other posts on the Eagle site about the casino couple of weeks ago, many people discounted those community leaders and their fears.
The vote yes for a Casino is not to save the Arena.
AT&T has the arena in San Antonio.
Cox? Their not local enough to put their brand on it.
Other corps exist.
Mrage
I dont know of a single local company that would put thier name on the arena…
2nd… Do you support the current plan of the county spending millions to furnish the VIP suites with lush carpet, Plasma screen TVs and nice couches??? Do you support using tax dollars of the many for the benifit of the few?
Vote NO on Casino!
“Taking care of arena parking is what the City wants to do.”
ONLY BECAUSE THE COUNTY IS RENEGGING ON ITS PROMISE TO DO SO. YOU KNOW THAT MRAGE.
“The City won’t sell Century II, whether you believe that or not.”
HOW CAN I KNOW THAT? THE SAME PEOPLE WHO PROMISED ME THE COUNTY HAD PARKING TAKEN CARE OF?
“Your concerned about Century II fine, that’s why the vote for the Casino exists.”
AND, AS I SAID, IT IS ONE OF THE REASON THE CASINO WILL FAIL. WHILE PEOPLE LIKE YOU DON’T CARE ABOUT THE ARTS OTHERS OF US DO.
“Corporate partnership I hope will increase seats and more size in the arena.”
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
“This is common person’s vote, the “community leaders” can’t demand to know what’s best for us.”
I HAVEN’T HEARD ANY DEMANDS FROM THEM. JUST REASONED ARGUEMENTS FROM PEOPLE I RESPECT.
“Other corps exist.”
SHOW ME!
“The arena plan isn’t being bailed out.”
THE CITY ADDING TENS OF MILLIONS OF MY TAX DOLLARS TO THE ALREADY BLOATED BUDGET IS A BAIL-OUT.
The irony here is that the Arena crowd is hoping the casino will help their Arena; however it is that Arena that will insure defeat for the casino. As both KWCH and the Eagle showed 2/3 of sedgwick County residents are against your Arena with its cost overruns and shifts to the City. this sour feeling will transfer to the casino as people see the same people pushing it who pushed ‘vote yea’
Tony – I will answer your question. YES! That is obvious.
Hey Tony – don’t you know that Mrage has the inside line with all these corporates he talkes to? The ones who tell him it’s “not impossible” that they might answer his phone calls?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!
Tony,
Since I won’t be in the VIP suites unless invited, don’t imagine I’ll ever park close next to the arena either…I haven’t been concerned about that kind of spending.
I thought VIP suites were empty rooms waiting for lease money to decorate it. Installed TV’s and couch’s?
Yes on the Casino.
I would be embarrassed because every county but us approves the Casino idea?
We have a poor image in Topeka and Sebelius wanted Sedgwick County in this plan more than other location.
Wyandotte County passes civic projects and benefits. Olathe does too.
Here, we have so many half done projects beginning with the Epic Center. Support is shaky for museums. Lost the Wranglers.
WSU has Cessna Stadium lost football a long time ago. KSU and KU refuse to play WSU in basketball.
Many around the state look at our city high school sports facilities and laugh.
We had to sue Topeka to win more for schools. Look how long it took. The years our local legislators sold us out in Topeka.
The County was told to disallow this vote, not that long ago.
Some local community leaders have done well for us, but many projects still need fixing.
Wichita is a shell what the City could be.
PAY ATTENTION MRAGE! THE LUXURY SUITES ARE BEING MADE PLUSH WITH MY TAX DOLLARS.
I advocated selling them as shells, sort of like condos. I figured that would help finance the arena. Might have even gotten your 18,000 seats that way. Wolverton et.al. rejected that idea.
“Support is shaky for museums.”
SO LETS TAKE THE MONEY WE MIGHT USE TO SUPPORT THESE AND SQUANDER IT.
“WSU has Cessna Stadium lost football a long time ago. KSU and KU refuse to play WSU in basketball.”
HOW WILL YOUR ARENA HELP THAT?
“Many around the state look at our city high school sports facilities and laugh.”
OR THAT?
“Some local community leaders have done well for us, but many projects still need fixing.”
TRUE. AND THE INTERESTING THING IS THAT THE COMMUNITY LEADERS WHO ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH THINGS ARE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE FROM YOU.
“Yes on the Casino.”
WHY DOWNTOWN? WHY NOT ELSEWHERE IN THE METROPOLITAN AREA? SOME OF US THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER OUTSIDE OF DOWNTOWN BUT STILL NEARBY.
“Wichita is a shell what the City could be.”
GOOD THING WE LIFTED THE SUPERFUND CLOUD THAT WOULD HAVE REALLY MADE IT AN EMPTY SHELL! YOU SHOULD THANK ME FOR MY PART IN THAT!
Ben,
Vote no on the Casino and be done with the decision.
County gets money if the Casino vote is yes. They can support Exploration place with more funds.If the Casino is in City limits, they have more funds to help the school system. I want that to happen. City has museums to support.
I want Century II to be your Arts location forever. I want Century II interior improved.
The City isn’t quick on improving Century II right now. The Library wants to move. The City has a plan to allow that by selling land to the Casino.
Vote no and wash your hands of the process. You never have to go in the casino or arena.
Hope your valued community leaders win many hearts and mind, the No vote carries.
I hope to see Russ Meyer at arena events, he’ll be in the VIP suites I guess. He supports that. He’ll park in the VIP lot too.
So will Charlie Chandler. Intrust will have their luxury box. He’ll park close.
They’ll be using your tax money getting comfortable in the arena.
“If the Casino is in City limits, they have more funds to help the school system.” WRONG! THE CITY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SCHOOLS.
“They can support Exploration place with more funds.” GET ME A SWORN PROMISE – IN WRITING – OF THAT.
“I want Century II to be your Arts location forever. I want Century II interior improved.” CAN YOU GUARUNTEE THAT?
“You never have to go in the casino or arena.” TRUE – BUT I HAVE TO PAY FOR YOUR ARENA. WHERE ARE YOUR WONDERFUL CORPORATES?
” Intrust will have their luxury box.” ARE YOU SURE OF THAT?
“Hope your valued community leaders win many hearts and mind, the No vote carries.” THAT IS THE PREDICTION.
EVEN IF THE CASINO IS NOT DOWNTOWN SEDG COUNTY WILL GET REVENUES THEY CAN USE FOR YOUR ARENA. IT DOESN’T HAVE TO BE DOWNTOWN TO DO THAT. YOU KNOW THAT!
As for revenues from slots at the track, horse and dog owners would get 5 times as much as Sedgwick County. Wichita would get nothing. (Senate Bill 66)
The casinos would drain $137 million annually from the local economy. That’s within $10 million of the hit we’d take if we lost the military and civilian payrolls of McConnell Air Force Base. (KS Lottery 2006 study)
Ben,
Intrust will have a luxury box in the arena! That’s an incentive to their employees regardless if they move from downtown.
I want the Casino downtown, so does the City. The Canadian plan or Ruffin. That’s what you can count on.
Topeka won’t allow Ruffin to control all the slots.
Forget Park City ,Casino is not happening out there.
The County won’t support Bob Knight’s plan against Wichita’s.
The County will allow Knight’s plan goes to Topeka, it won’t be chosen. Topeka remembers Dee!
The County will have more money, City will too. Both should benefit in the Casino process.
Hey Mrage… correct me if im wrong… Intrust doesn’t have a VIP box at the Wranglers… What makes u think they will have a box at the Arena??? Charlie Chandler telling you something that hes not telling the rest of us?
Neither the City or County will get much money… If your lucky it will be an even net gain, the county’s “earnings” and what they have to spend in additional resources.
see facts above.
You know, if we the citizens were allowed to vote on a specific plan, than i would be more apt to vote for a casino in Sedgwick county, knowing right where it would be located and what it would look like. Im not prepared to write another blank check to the County and State governments.
I think i am still in favor of a smaller Ruffin urban casino at his building there at Douglass and Market (and to take the rest of the block). I am not in favor of CII and there are too many powerful people against a CII casino for it to happen.
Tony,
The Wranglers? Intrust surely got tickets free for employees if they wanted them over the years.
The Arena VIP boxes will be more pleasurable than Lawrence-Dumont.
I don’t believe Chandler will move Intrust if the Casino vote is yes.
Just because of that, they might have ideas to relocate already.
Who is more powerful than the City dealing with land around Century II? The City and Canadians are already involved.
I don’t know how the Casino financing works, I only watch the $300 Million dollar number that could buy City property.
How much City property is Ruffin buying.
The state isn’t finished how the gambling money will be dispersed.
The vote is to ratify a casino is wanted in this county.
“The state isn’t finished how the gambling money will be dispersed. “BS! Its all spelled out in the Senate bill. Just like the arena tax says the tax brought in can be spent on an arena, the casino bill says who gets the money, with a majority of that money going to the casino owners, the rest going to the state and only 2% to Sedgwick county.
Oh, and when my X wife worked at Intrust, we could get tickets. They did not buy season tickets, they did how ever do intrust night and buy tickets on one night.
I do think Intrust and Fidelity will leave downtown if a casino comes to CII. I dont think they will leave if a Ruffin or different plan comes. When I say powerful people who dont want to see CII turned into a casino, that’s them, among others.
There was a lot of talk about this at this years Prayer breakfast a few weeks ago…
Tony,
There are a few legislators upset about the casino bill and I’m sure bills to amend it will happen.
The slots seem to be on a fast track but Casino’s will still be argued about. More focused arguing once all the counties approve a casino.
Topeka will know who to invite to those discussions.
If its known Intrust and Fidelity move because of the Casino, people could pull their accounts from those banks. Spite can travel both ways.
Chandler and others shouldn’t be speaking for the banks and all the employees. Their hatred is personal.
This a personal decesion with the employees and their votes.
They have equal choice just as Chandler and the executives do.
There is a lot of concern about ownership of Century II. Mayor Brewer said the City is never selling it.
Are people afraid of interaction about folks on a sidewalk? Those going to Arts events and others heading in an out of the Casino?
Clash of cultures!
That’s the uncertainity, its personal.
Why did the City hire SMG to manage Century II if they were going to sell to the Canadians?
“Their hatred is personal”
SO YOU SAY MRAGE. I SEE IT AS SINCERE CONCERN FOR THE COMMUNITY.
“There are a few legislators upset about the casino bill and I’m sure bills to amend it will happen.”
MORE ‘TRUST ME I’LL FIX IT’ TALK. NOT A CHANCE MRAGE, THE LAW IS WHAT IT IS.
“I don’t believe Chandler will move Intrust if the Casino vote is yes.”
CHANDLER IS INFINITELY MORE CREDIBLE THAT YOU WILL EVER BE.
“I want the Casino downtown, so does the City. The Canadian plan or Ruffin.” CANADIEN PLAN IS CENTURY II. SO YOU WANT TO SELL C-II.
“Forget Park City ,Casino is not happening out there.”
AND FORGET DOWNTOWN. THE PEOPLE WILL NOT ENDORSE THAT. THAT IS WHY THE VOTE WILL FAIL.
ONE MONTH MRAGE AND WE WILL KNOW.