Further evidence that GOP primary politics can get rough, especially over defining social issues: Sam Brownback’s Iowa "robocall" assault on the pro-life credentials of Mitt Romney and Tom Tancredo, which has both candidates demanding apologies. Tancredo’s acceptance of campaign money from a Planned Parenthood backer might be a legitimate criticism (though it hardly matters, given Tancredo’s lack of electability). But does the Brownback campaign really think it’s fair to blast Romney for his wife’s past donations?
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The “Pro-Life” hypocrites make me sick.
With a 1000lb bomb under one arm and a Bible under the other, the Christian Crackpots march to the beat of their self righteous lunacy.
If they could only see themselves for what they really are.
WE EDITORS:
WHEN ARE WE GOING TO GET A REAL THREAD ABOUT THE DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES?
YOU HAVE THE TIME ONCE AGAIN TO HAVE AN ABORTION THREAD ABOUT THE GOP AND YOU GIVE US ANOTHER FLUFF PIECE ABOUT A DEMOCRAT.
YOU CONTINUE TO SHOW YOUR COMPLETE INABILITY TO GIVE THIS BLOG ANYTHING CLOSE TO A LEGITIMATE FAIR DIALOGUE ON THE PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN.
Another newspaper editor has decided a candidate is not electable and hence will not be getting much coverage in the process.
Isn’t it great how the so-called journalists help narrow our choices down to those they approve of as electable?
Sorry PM, but NONE of the GOP candiadates are electable.
Perhaps if the GOP brought forth a serious candidate we would stop laughing.
As Nathan has pointed out, there appears to be a massive amount of negative posts on Republican candidates and only fluff pieces on Democratic Candidates.
How about a thread about how the leading Democrat candidates have no executive experience running anything and only a few years in the Senate?
I mean; for the largest political party in the country, not to be able to produce viable presidential candidates that aren’t big zeros in relevant experience is really pretty shocking.
Nice work Nathan, putting together documentation of the Eagle’s bias.
Nathan’s list appears on the open thread.
Brownback vying to be most pro-life of them all
So freakin WHAT??? What is the president going to change? We had a republican in the white house and a republican led house and senate. We even had a republican SCOTUS. What really changed?
Who gives a flying flip. This is propaganda to polarize. Nothing more.
And again, something to stir the pot with republicans, and fluff for the Dems.
Atta girl Rhonda. Great work.
I propose this: Let this thread NOT turn into an abortion debate. Those threads are notorious for filling up quickly.
Let this thread stagnate and every other abortion related thread stagnate until the Eagle grows enough balls to do a real thread on democrats.
Abortion, it’s all the Repubs. have for their masses. Why shouldn’t any thread about their candidates be about their single issue politics?
Apparently it is an important issue if brownback’s campaign made their robocall about it.
Go gittem Sam! Beat the snot out of that darn Rommney and whats-his-name from Colorado. Maybe you’ll get 5% of the vote rather than your usual 2%.
So if the repubs dont want to talk about their central issue, abortion, what does that say about THEM and their flip flopping?
I think it is hysterical that they are whining and running from THEIR own issue. Ashamed? Or just dont want to talk about it BEFORE the election.
And the way the repubs, with the blessings of the democrats, stacked SCOTUS something terrible? NOW you DONT want to talk about abortion?
heheheheh. Here’s a clue. Think dead and stinking chicken tied around your NECKS. Forever!
And if you dont want to talk about abortion, how about YOUR war for oil? Wanna talk about that since 70% of Americans want DEMOCRATS in charge of the war effort? Be my guest. PLEASE talk about bush’s war on terra.
Or how about global warming and the rape of our environment? Wanna talk about your party’s stellar record on THAT issue?
Or how about human rights, gay bashing, etc? Wanna talk about THAT issue, since more people now approve of gay marriage than ever before?
Or maybe we could talk about ethics? Lobbying money? The total corruption of the Justice Department?
Maybe we could talk about runaway deficit spending? More tax cuts for the rich? The state of the housing market? Impending doom in hedge funds? Ok. I’m in.
Ok. You guys pick the NEXT topic. It’s all the same to me. Yer bozos out of step with the public on every one of them.
Cut the deck and deal the cards!
Here Rhonda goes again! Why is the Eagle so quick to print articles and express opionions about Sam Brownback in extreme ways? Where’s the balance Sen. Brownback posesses? Readers can read day after day the attempt by Eagle writers to frame the debate with regard to certain politicans and elections. Is it possible for Rhonda, Crowson, and other Eagle Editors to have an open mind and see Hillary,& Obama’s extreme positons. To step outside of their obvious pro abortion, liberal,& democrat bias? To see Kathleen Sebelius,and the liberal political machine in the state, as calculating and not necessarily driven by principle. Either Rhonda Holman is an extreme feminist in her support of abortion, or she refuses to look beyond Roe V Wade to see that abortion practices, with Wichita’s Dr. Tiller has become availabe on demand thru all 9 months and used by many as a form of birth control.
In yesterday’s blog piece about Dem. Jim Ward’s arrest for drunk driving. Rhonda first sets the readers up with Jim Ward’s leadership and legislative skills. The attempt was to form in the readers minds Ward’s good quailities; and the position of leadership he holds in Topeka for Wichita. All of that before readers were presented the real story. The lawmaker, lawyer, was ARRESTED for drunk driving, and refusing to coroporate with the arresting officers. She then proceeds to include Rep. Dale Swenson’s arrest for drunk driving and quick admission and public apology, (Ward has not done)and attempts to spin on Ward’s behalf Swenson’s re-election percentages. One would imagine impaired lawmakers are not new to Topeka law enforcement. If the lawyer Ward would have taken the sobriety test law enforcement requested, that information would be available in the arrest report for the media. Since that didn’t happen, Rhonda can continue to frame the debate in Ward’s favor. Mothers Against Drunk Driving should picket the Eagle!
If anyone has a problem with what’s posted aren’t they free to add what they think is important? Post away on what you think would be “LEGITIMATE FAIR DIALOGUE ON THE PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN.” Or continue to complain if that’s better for you.
“Where’s the balance Sen. Brownback posesses?”
hehehehe. HEE HEE HEE. HEHEHEHEHEHEH!
Uh, yeah. Some of us want to know that too. Where IS The balance in sam the sham? HE doesnt care about anything other than snowflake fetuses and judges who ATTEND a gay committment ceremony.
HE defined his own issue. Theocracy. Dont be pissed when he is successful in defining himself that way.
I just LOVE the whiners who blame the “liberal” press. Especially since the WE never met a repuke it didnt fall over itself to endorse.
“Or continue to complain if that’s better for you.”
It’s waaaaaaambulance time again.
NDH, but for what it is worth, I think they gave Ward a pass too. I wondered when I read it how they managed to be so afraid of that twerp.
And for all you progressive democrats out there, dont forget. Ward ACTIVELY and PERSONALLY called legislators to twist their arms to vote in FAVOR of the hate amendment. He is a total wolf in sheep’s clothing. And the kansas democrats seem to like it that way.
I guess that is what passes for a democrat in Wichita. And the WE is gonna give him a pass for REFUSING a breath test.
Sounds like K street favors to me.
For Sam, the only two issues that matter are stopping abortions and hating gays. He is working around the clock to spread his hateful rhetoric in the hope that he will someday beat the margin of error in the polls. Theocrats like Brownback will never wake up and realize that his desire to govern based on what he read in god’s book of hateful fables is as popular to the masses as onion flavored gum. I wish the media would give him more coverage so the entire country can see just how crazy and dangerous biblical literalists and religious freaks really are. Brownback is the figurehead of a movement that wishes to rule the US like a Christian Taliban. He should be on the TV every night exposing the religious right for the murderous hypocrites that they really are. Brownback is the master of the self righteous hypocritical scumbags that claim every life is sacred unless it happens to belong to an Iraqi or Iranian, then it deserves to be hit with the full “shock and awe” death machine. Culture of Life my ass.
Scott, you NAILED it!
Agreed, KSFrmgrrl.
It may be a good time for Ward to “spend more time with his family” and let a Democratic candidate run next time.
Yup, good post, Scott.
Don’t be a stranger, dude.
I think so too capn, but the taliban in wichita really doesnt care what initial is behind the name. They just elect folks to do the bidding of the little ayatollah, terry fox.
So.. how’s that workin’ for ya wichita?
And you wonder why your delegation has no clout compared to joco?
hehehehehehheheheheheeheheh…….
Good post Scott! I had wished we wouldn’t need to hear the little we do until you pointed out the wisdom of hearing much more. We have violent religious types right here in America and we all need to pay closer attention to their danger. I am sad about what is done in the name of God.
Wichita seems to be doing pretty good KFG,,
We have a new Casino on it’s way we have a new Arena..Teachers just got a much needed raise.. Will probally get the Bowling tourament back..New baseball team to replace the Wranglers.. I think we are doing well..
How is your neck of the woods and that water problem..
Well, I see the Eagle’s left wing hate parade is in full swing this morning. Hi and howdy all you Eagle crackers and crackerettes.
I’m not a fan of Brownback’s either, but then I try and make my decisions based on rational criteria, not someone’s race, or religion.
Oh well, back to work while you losers and deadbeats parrot Der Sturmer’s hatemongering.
And howdy to you too Adolph!
Yeah, great post Scott.
Um.. it is “say silly prejudiced lefty nutso things” day isn’t it?
If the Eagle compared voting records on social issues of U.S. Senator Roberts and Brownback I would imagine they are identical! Hillary Clinton, Barak Hussien Obama can speak before and raise funds from pro-abortion on demand groups various religious organizations and “liberal” anti religious right hollywood. It is ridiculous to believe Sam Brownback’s presidental campaign is only about abortion. In a primary, with a large field of candidates, Dem’s too, the candidates focus on specific issue groups from which to garner support.
I would expect anti Brownback posters will take the opportunity to blast away at my comments on recorded votes, and Brownback’s recent Eagle headline grabber of missed votes!! Blast away. I bet he was present for his Biden-Brownback plan for Iraq, budget votes and support for Darfur etc… Oh, before I forget; the drunk driving arrest of Wichita Democrat lawmaker in leadership,”of which only 1 of two positions are held” in Topeka. Didn’t make an Eagle headline, or the front page for that matter!
So.. if things are so great in wichta, how come you all are always whining about getting your asses kicked in topeka by joco?
And if the more urban (read wichita) legislative delegation wasnt consumed by gay bashing and abortion witch hunts, perhaps the water problem could be dealt with?
Of course not. What was the FIRST piece of legislation the topeka repukes AND democrats pushed through in 2005?
The hate amendment. Pushed by terry, joe and fred. And MOST of your legislative delegation.
Tell me again how the kansas taliban operating in BOTH political parties cares about water?
Jesus wept BG. Put down the kookaide and slowly back away…
… and I think we agree that the WE totally dropped the ball on jim ward’s REFUSAL to take a breath test when he was ARRESTED for suspicion of DUI.
I ask again, what makes the WE so afraid of him and forces them to handle him with kid gloves?
You showed your asses on that one WE.
BG, the article in the Eagle revealed the pay raise and also a raise in the Medical Coverage. The Kansas people kick in almost $600.00 a month to each teacher for Medical Insurance.
The next time someone complains about Teachers’ low salary, I’m going to point out the additional $7200.00/year they get as a benefit to pay for their Medical Insurance.
“It is ridiculous to believe Sam Brownback’s presidental campaign is only about abortion.”
Of course not. Gay hating and judge bashing run a close second. I think that is what we have been saying.
Thanks for confirming it.
“The Kansas people kick in almost $600.00 a month to each teacher for Medical Insurance.”
So?
Hell, Trego county pays almost $800 per month per employee for medical insurance. Gee, do you think that has ANYTHING to do with the county commissioners being covered by the SAME expensive plan?
In addition to the $1000 per month they get in salaries?
Exactly HOW much work is involved in being a county commissioner in Trego county? I mean, keeping the county attorney out of jail and functioning is a full time job, but other than that?
Look at your local NON teaching government health insurance plans and their outrageous costs before you start whining about teachers.
Ksfarmgrrl, Scott where’s all the hatetred coming from? Unless you are farther from the left than Kathleen Sebelius, Mark Parkinson, Paul Morrison, and the combined efforts of liberal, anti religious right Republicans working with the above. They are in charge of running the state. And sorry ksfarmgrrl, but the print media loves, loves, loves, all of them. No editorial or cartoon mocking them! Honeymoon, is lasting a very long time!!!!!!!
“And sorry ksfarmgrrl, but the print media loves, loves, loves, all of them.”
Appartantly so do kansas REPUBLICANS. If the state is majority registered republican, and those folks keep winning…
…WTF does that say about kansas REPUBLICANS?
Even the repuke voters must think there is NO difference between the parties.
And yes, I HATE that!
KFG,
your the one that asked how it was working out for Wichita..
And I told you some great things happening..you keep bringing up the Taliban and I was letting you know that if we were ran by the Taliban we would not have.
1-Sundy Liqur sales2-Casino3-one of the country’s busiest Abortion Doctor??out of attack modeand who has ever complained about JOCO?
Oh please BG. Only a new reader would not know how wichita whiiiiines every January about how their delegation just doesnt have the clout to compete with mean ol’ joco.
Second, you dont HAVE a casino yet. And if I remember correctly, the majority of your delegation did not support expanded gaming in ks.
I see how well things are going with your daily arena threads. I see how united your community is for progress. I see all the divisions, constantly.
I see how well the taliban did with WWW. And the Wranglers. And hockey. And the bowling folks have agreed to TALK with wichita after the city folks blew it. I dont know any promises that the tournament will come to wichita.]
I see the black eye the taliban gives your community with the operation rescue folks. And the constant drumbeat to drum up phoney charges against tiller.
Nationally, operation rescue ranks right up there with connie morrison and phred phelps in making kansas a laughing stock.
I do indeed see how “well” things are going for wichita with terry, joe and fred in charge.
Do you?
Man KFG you are so Negitive…
KFG,what is WWW?
Well you know FACTS have a negative liberal bias according to wingnuttia.
SO you put out a buncha bullshit “Positives” and I refute them with facts, and that makes me “negative”.
hehehehehe. Jesus wept. Facts. You should try it sometime before you throw shit up here and expect it to stick.
If you, by know, dont know what www is, you are not a serious poster.
But then, we already knew that.
facts what factsall I seen was a bunch of opinions.show me one fact in your post??
What is not factual about THIS?
“Second, you dont HAVE a casino yet. And if I remember correctly, the majority of your delegation did not support expanded gaming in ks.
I see how well things are going with your daily arena threads. I see how united your community is for progress. I see all the divisions, constantly.
I see how well the taliban did with WWW. And the Wranglers. And hockey. And the bowling folks have agreed to TALK with wichita after the city folks blew it. I dont know any promises that the tournament will come to wichita.”
Waiting…
WWW= Wild West World
Kansas has a long and well established history of drawing and promoting extremists who claim to represent the voice of God. Even in our territorial days we had folks smuggling in what were at the time, state of the art firearms, in box’s labeled “bibles.” And then there was John Brown, immortalized on the wall of our capital, who along with his sons, dragged three men from their homes and in front of their families hacked them to death with broadswords. There was the gentle Reverend Burgraff of Abilene who long worshipped Richard Nixon as Gods true messenger, and then there is that Phred guy and his hateful Klan in Topeka. These are the easy examples to site.
What’s frightening to me is when extremism becomes blindly sanctioned and validated in larger society. We must be wary of how extremists and extreme views (on either side of an issue) can divide us and drive us apart, compelling and promoting “all or nothing” thinking. “You’re either for us or against us!” (Where have I heard that recently?)
I am a Christian and I am pro-life. Yet when I have spoken against Phil Kline, our frighteningly incompetent, extremist, former AG, I am blasted as “anti-family,” a “baby killer” and a Satanist.Brownbecks “life” crusade is much broader than anti-abortion. I also believe in the rule of law, and the right to self determination regarding personal health decisions. So when I see Sam Brownback financing and touring with Terri Schiavos’ brother on the “pro-life” circuit, I have to shake my head in wonder at this simple example of his extreme, and frankly intrusive and invasive form of new age republicanism. (I thought Republicans favored less government intrusion into our personal lives.)
But the money keeps coming! We blindly support a particular candidate based upon one particular (historically fiscal, but increasingly religious)issue or party affiliation and we tolerate extremism that tears us apart from our neighbors and our roots.
The initial consequences of extremism are reflected in the hatemongering for which our world has become particular adept and the shortsighted and narrow minded defensiveness that sees all the wrong as someone else’s fault. Arabs and Jews and atheists and fagots…
Some try to compare the “right” to the “reich.” Cleverly hateful in its intent, the reference raises a broader point that we all might do well to consider. Regardless of our political frame of reference. The particular reich that we so love to hate, grew and prospered with an extremely popular acceptance of the extremist view that “someone else is responsible for our every misfortune.” And the supposition that there is someONE out there with a solution to our distress.
In a democracy, our strength lies in the very presence of diverse opinion, and the tolerance, neh, PROMOTION of civil dialogue.
Extremist on either side of the argument seek to stiffle such discussion with name calling, fear mongering, deception and half-truths.
We have the RESPONSIBILITY to question and challenge EACH of our representatives and candidates every time they stoop to ask for our vote, our dollars or our trust. And there is no excuse beyond self serving greed, profound ignorance or self righteous extremism that should allow us to tolerate the proliferation of hate, fear, AND ignorance that prospers in the world today, under many guises.
Listen. Listen very carefully. Then do something. Gary Bachman
Ksfarmgrrl, I believe we can find something on which to agree conerning Sen. Brownback. However, you are going to need to work with me just a little! I agree with you Sen. Sam supports respect for the unborn, is opposed to gay marriage, and judges making law from the bench! And he has taken those positions on the campaign trail running for the GOP nomination. And your positions are polar opposite.It’s probably safe to say you have never voted for Brownback. And if; I’ll save you the time and energy, that’s a big IF he were to make it all the way you won’t be voting for him as Pres.?
You commented, following my posting where I included other issues Brownback supports before Congress, and in the presidential primary. But your only response was to ignore the OTHER positions, and issues, and concluded that I confirmed your point. This is from which the narrow closeminded, and lack of abilitly on the part of anti religious right folks (my point about WE, Holman)criticism steems.I think we can agree to disagree! But the facts are, that Brownback stands and has stood for more than just the lefts narrow interpretation of him. By the way the religious right’sforefront to political action was out of their constitutional right of free speech. Brought on by the left and yes liberal media’s assumstions for the direction ofthe counrty; and the ridicule of their views by elected officals and the media!
Uh, ndh, are you saying his votes on biden-brownback and darfur are the OTHER issues in his campaign?
heheheheheheh.
When he himself BILLS himself as “god’s senator” and HE is the one talking all abortion all the time, what do you expect?
It is clearly HIS most important issue. Why isnt HE talking about the other things?
Let me guess, the mean ol’ libral media isnt reporting it….
Stupid me..I alwatys thought it Meant World Wide Web..
what the hell did the Taliban have to do with Hockey, Wranglers, and WWW?
as far as the Arena, damn right it will cause Division in Wichita. we have people that lost a Vote and they are pissed.. you know.. Kind of like this country over the last 2 elections.you brought up most of the other stuff not me.as far as Bowling we have the same chances we did before the city screwed it up..
Gambling is my opinion it is coming so excuse me for that..
Now as for jesus crying.. try that on a religious person.. I don’t care..—–
OMG, this is TOO funny!
“By the way the religious right’sforefront to political action was out of their constitutional right of free speech. Brought on by the left and yes liberal media’s assumstions for the direction ofthe counrty; and the ridicule of their views by elected officals and the media!”
I see. So… it’s the DEMOCRATS and the LEFT’S fault that the talibaners made such a mess of things? WE forced them into it?
heheh. HEE HEE HEE. HEHEHEHEHEHEH. (Choke gasp) heheheheheheheeh….
Jesus wept is a texas expression. It means “good grief” or “holy cow”. Sorry if you’ve never heard it. But I do like how it pisses off the tighty righties. Clearly they have no idea where the phrase came from.
BG, still waiting for you to point out what was NOT factual in my post. So far you are just whining.
BG, do you even READ the shit you post?
“Wichita seems to be doing pretty good KFG,,
We have a new Casino on it’s way we have a new Arena..Teachers just got a much needed raise.. Will probally get the Bowling tourament back..New baseball team to replace the Wranglers.. I think we are doing well..
How is your neck of the woods and that water problem..
Posted by: BG | July 25, 2007 at 10:45 AM
And hey, as you can see from the repost from YOU, YOU are the one who brought up about how “well” wichta was doing with its taliban leadership and slavish devotion to terry, joe and fred. Bowling and wranglers and all.
Dont crawfish on it now when you’ve been called on it. Even if you cant read, we can.
Maybe you post under so many nics you just cant remember what you say in all their voices?
you asked how is that working out for you Wichita.. I awnsered.
actual I did it to show how we are not ran by the religious right..
we never would have got this far 5 years ago.
you brought up the Operation rescue and your opinion how it makes Wichita Look. Your opinion
we will get a chance to vote on Gambling. It’s your opinion we won’t get it. I think we will
If we don’t take it Sumner county will so Gambline will happen one way or the other
I said we will probally get the Bowling tournament back.. we have the same chance as before..
we are close to getting a replacment Baseball team..
now you tell me how The Taliban got rid of the Wild west world and the wranglers and Hockey??
According to a few of you posters anyone of christian faith that has conservative views and supports candidates that appreciate the issues important to them are responsible for all that is wrong in Kansas, the nation and even the world? They are put into the same categories of Hitler, “Reichwing”; Taliban terrorists,& Fred Phelps.
So, if gay marriage would be permitted by Sebelius in Kansas; Hillary elected President, and Obama V. President (from help within the christian faith denominations in which they practice) gay marriage is the law of the land;and Supreme court judges only support abortion on demand thru all 9 months and used as a form of birth control.
And Terrorists are defined by a narrow view that includes christian consevatives along with the guys that waged a holy war against all Americans. However,I don’t think the terrorists that took down flight 93; or flew the planes into the Twin Towers cared what kind of American’s they were killing. Conservatives,liberals gays, christians, left, right, media people etc…. If all of the above would occur; and the world would be brought to peace by Hillary’s government. Would the Ksfarmgrrl and similar thinking posters agree that conservative christians are intitled to the same 1st Amendment rights of free speech and involvement in government as are other Americans?
“if we were ran by the Taliban we would not have…
3-one of the country’s busiest Abortion Doctor??”
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You are right, because if the Taliban WAS in power here, they would just execute any woman who was pregnant, and not married.. That is their law..
Oh nuts, I wasnt supposed to tell that to the Christian Right.. might give them ideas…
And they would pick a Stadium to do it in, where it was ALL a public display of their supposed religious righteous strength for their GOD!!
chas,I thought they just made them wear a big red A
Chas, and Brian, your comments scare me! When reading them one senses the intensity and hatred in which you write concerning christian’s that hold conservative, anti abortion political views. What is your opinion of a doctor that makes his living aborting 7,8,&9 month (full term) babies? Civilized, I suppose? Is there any room in your dialogue for the possiblilty that abortion has moved pass the point of Roe v Wade? And is being used as a form of birth control? Example: woman from work had her 5th, yes, fifth abortion. Even though her fiancee, pleaded with her not to have the abortion. They married shortly after the abortion, and a few months later she became pregnant;deciding,this time, she is carrying a baby, not a fetus! By the way I’d put your comments up there with the likes of Phelps, and the wacko lefties.
You guys think your comments are funny? Maybe in your limited world view, and possibly to the radical left groups that believe violence and revolution is the only way to achieve their kind of America. Grow a pair, become men, and join the human race.
No, not hatred… Just plain fed up with a bunch of right wing religious nuts trying to control the lives of ordinary people… Thats all… no hatred… IF there are people who use abortion as birth control, they are sure going about it the hard way… pills and concoms are a lot cheaper, and a lot safer… I seriously doubt that ANY mother has had 5 abortions… Medical journals would tend to refute that liklihood… maybe you best check your sources on that one…
And I believe I read that the percentage of late term abortions accounts for .01% of ALL abortions… And my guess is that those had something to do with the life/health of the mother…
By the way, what i described as life under the Taliban IS accurate… Why dont you find some of the internet feeds that SHOW women who are not married, but pregnant, being SHOT to death in a soccer stadium… some as recently as April of THIS year…
With some Congressional representatives pushing for the death penalty for abortion doctors already, I dont want to even SEE what would happen if some of you all get Roe V. Wade overturned…
I suppose you all want Medical Examiner reports for every miscarriage, too, huh?? That is one of the things that a number of Pro Life groups have already said they want… I guess the rights to privacy, and a woman’s right to reproductive freedom, dont matter ONE bit to some of you power and fear mongers…
chas: Are you channeling George Gardner? Just wondering.
Yo happy troll. Show where abortions are happening in the 8th and 9th month of pregnancy.
I can tell you right now they AREN’T. And why is it YOUR business if a woman has an abortion?
Ahh yes, Rev. George Gardner… a long time great preacher in Wichita… Many years in the pulpits of the city… He was truly and extraordinary man!!
Troll repellant on sale in Aisle 5 at WalMart super centers everywhere…
it sure is easy to make comments under an assumed nic that you would not want to defend under your own.
Chas,As someone who has actually volunteered to escort women into clinics past the howling mobs, and spent many long hours talking with many women seeking abortion, there probably are a very few women who have had five or so abortions. Mostly this seems to come from the view which seems to be promoted by some churches that birth control constitutes “planning to have sex,” which is sinful, but if sex “just happens,” it’s not a sin. I talked to a couple of young women who held that (insanely stupid) view who were both getting their third abortions.
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