Paul McHugh (in photo) should have known better than to talk about specific, sealed records in the ongoing investigation of late-term abortions by Wichita doctor George Tiller. The psychiatrist with John Hopkins University, who was hired by former Kansas Attorney General Phill Kline to review some of the abortion records, has made public statements and judgments about what’s in the records. He also had planned to speak about the records Tuesday at a pro-life meeting in Overland Park until Attorney General Paul Morrison ordered him to stop, stating in a letter that hired experts for the prosecution are prohibited from making extrajudicial statements that could prejudice future legal proceedings.
That said, why is it taking Morrison so long to reach a decision on this case? He has been saying since March that the announcement would be coming soon, and it seems as if every few weeks his office says that the investigation will be completed in another couple of weeks.
Is it really that difficult to determine whether Tiller may have violated state law?
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Great topic for the fundies…..have fun kicking this one around. I will not participate.
Thanks to McHugh a mistrial can be declared and all charges can be dropped, again.
The real question is, why did it take Kline until the last month in office, when he KNEW he was out, to go forward with the Tiller case?
Because Kline knew with Tiller out of the picture, he would have had nothing else to live for. He needed Tiller to stay “somewhat” relevant.
I seem to recall that many of the files were incomplete with them having been shipped out of the office … to O’Reilley.
When will Morrison investigate whether Kline violated the law by supplying information to O’reily?
Ah, the great ‘medical file fiasco’!
Now that Morrison has sucessfully used them, with the help of Tiller’s generous campaign donations, to beat Kline it would be a shame if the public actually found out what was really in them.
Making general statements about the files or specific statements about individual files that have had all of the personal information redacted in no way violates patient confidentiallity.
Since McHugh was hired by the previous AG it is probably not ethical to talk publicly about the case. If there is a case. However, it’s obvious that Morrison is not going ahead with any proscution of Teller. You don’t proscute your boss!
Hank
It’s taking so long because once he’s proven to be innocent the outcry from the anti-choicers will be loud and long. They’re making sure they are crossing their T’s and dotting their I’s to prevent this from being a case that they can’t close.
Hank, whether it is legal or not, is it really appropriate to discuss others medical records in a public forum? I don’t know, but seems wrong to me. Even though the name isn’t there you’re still discussing someone’s personal records.
(9) Even supporters of liberalized abortion laws have admitted that the Supreme Court’s decisions overturning the abortion laws of all 50 States are constitutionally flawed (e.g. Ely, `The Wages of Crying Wolf: A Comment on Roe v. Wade’ 82 Yale L.J. 920 (1973)).
(10) Several members of the Supreme Court have admitted that the Court’s Establishment Clause jurisdiction is indefensible (e.g. Zelamn v. Simmons-Harris, 536 U.S. 639, 688 (2002) (Souter, J., dissenting); Rosenberger v. Rector and Visitors of the Univ. of Va., 515 U.S. 819, 861 (1995) (Thomas, J. concurring); Lamb’s Chapel v. Center Moriches Union Free Sch. Dist., 508 U.S. 384, 399, (1993) (Scalia, J. concurring); and Committee for Public Ed. And Religious Liberty v. Regan, 444 U.S. 646, 671 (1980) (Stevens, J., dissenting).
(11) Congress has the responsibility to protect the republican governments of the States and has the power to limit the jurisdiction of the Supreme Court and the lower Federal courts over matters that are reserved to the States and to the People by the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States.
matters that are reserved to the States and to the People by the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States.
matters that are reserved to the States and to the People by the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States.
matters that are reserved to the States and to the People by the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States.
matters that are reserved to the States and to the People by the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States.
SHIT !!!! WRONG THREAD. Sorry folks
Why is the Tom Delay money laundering trial taking so long to get started?
AG Morrison is delaying, because he knows he’s in a no-win situation. If the divulged information (had a late term abortion so she could go to a concert, for example)is true, then it seems to me, that clearly is in violation of the Kansas law which only allows late-term abortions when the mother’s life is at risk.We all know abortion is a very sad situation, and because people seem to polarized one way or another, Kansas drew the line at trying to prohibit elective, late-term abortions, when the baby would otherwise be viable. Nobody is going after the women involved, and the names have been scrubbed from the released records. This case is all about whether Dr Tiller acted according to law regarding his reasoning for the procedure. What good does trying to draw such a line of acceptable vs not-acceptable abortion do, if that law is not going to be enforced?I predict this will be an albatross around the necks of both Morrison and Sebielus
Dear The Phantom,
No evidence. When it takes a prosecuter three grand juries to finally get one to indict you can be sure there’s not much of a case.
Hank
Hank I feel that Kline would have been beaten no matter what. Kline used the office for his own purpose.
Dear WichiWomn,
You asked,
“Hank, whether it is legal or not, is it really appropriate to discuss others medical records in a public forum?”
I previously wrote,
“Since McHugh was hired by the previous AG it is probably not ethical to talk publicly about the case.”
I think it’s legal, no laws were broken. The AG has a perfect right, even a responsibility to access the records of these girls if there is reason to believe Teller is breaking the law.
If what has come out about these records is true, Teller has been breaking the law. Still is.
The privacy of these records are not the issue. It’s the one that Teller chooses to fight, because they are evidence. It’s important to make a big deal out of patient privacy in order to avoid the substance of the evidence.
I agree with you McHugh is not the one to be talking about this case if it is active. However, if Morrison decides not to procede I think the public has a right to know why. He’s the one that won by making such a phoney big deal about patient privacy.
Hank
You might be right writerdog.
I’m reminded of the age old question, If you are up to your neck in horseshit and someone throws a bucket of cowshit at you, do you duck?
I didn’t vote in the AG race, I couldn’t figure the evil of the two lessers.
Hank
I don’t care if the records were ’scrubbed’; they should not be disclosed. Consider the information still there – possible description, state of pregnancy, other symptoms, etc. That could be enough for a good data-miner to put it together and identify the patient.
I suppose it matters what one defines as truth and justice. I was under the impression that justice was meted with blindness.
Evidently, Morrison and others of his ilk have a much different view on what Justice entails.
“audiatur et altera pars” Attorney General Morrison, “audiatur et altera pars.”
I trust that you have a corresponding editorial to appear in the paper, Phillip, so that pressure is duly applied to AG Morrison.
I’m sure he was hoping that folks would just sort of forget about it. Nope. Time to step up to the plate, Mr. Morrison.
I’m sorry Ben,
You’re just wrong. The redacted medical records are not personal in any way.
When Morrison started using them in the campaign then it’s fair game for Kline to defend his motives.
Sorry.
Hank
PS Congrats on the letter!
This is really not about pro life or pro abortion….it is about breaking the laws of Kansas. Tiller as a mandated reporter of child abuse did not report the crimes against these little girls. Ten year olds are not commonly having sex.
There were crimes committed against these children and Tiller did not report it to the proper authorities. Did he break the law?—–
“Tiller as a mandated reporter of child abuse did not report the crimes against these little girls.”
Nowhere in the charges that Phill Klline filed against Tiller was he charged with not reporting child abuse. Where did you get your information?
Hank – I guess what I worry about would be something similar to “middle-aged male, 25 pounds overweight, needed Lipitor prescription”
Add that to a list of the DR’s patients I got elsewhere and I narrow that down to either me or you!
Years ago when I took corporate espionage training we were told to give NO information. The simple statement “Mr. Jones is in KC this week” might be just the information they needed. As I see it this could be similar.
I may be taking HIPPA (acronym?) too far but I don’t think I am wrong on being cautious.
BTW – thanks! I think I hit the high points.
HIPAA is a joke, really. One of the reasons that Chucky Schumer was behind HIPAA was because of a clinic in NY was selling a list of elderly incontinent patient names to Depends. If you were being treated for incontinence you soon started getting husltled by adult diaper companies!
HIPAA was sold as a patient rights/privacy bill but I believe there is a hidden agenda. (slight pause while I find my tin foil hat) The Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act has much more than patient privacy involved. Notice the word “Portability” in the title!
The eventual goal is to make all medical records digital and easily shared between insurance companies, clinics and the government. If you think that annoying little rash you have is going to be between just you and your family medical practicioner in ten years, think again!
Hank
Good points Hank. I think Hipaa has a lot of issues; I would add employers potentially having access.
Then we have cases like Cho at V-Tech where the records NEEDED to be available.
AG Morrison is stalling so that the statute of limitations will run out on some of the charges, and he can attempt to trivialize the rest, while the Legislature can do nothing whatsoever to check his obstruction of justice, now that they are long adjourned after accomplishing NOTHING to clean up this corruption.Even the abortion lobby cannot trivialize an incinerator full of illegally butchered viable babies.We will have justice. We will have it.
“Now that Morrison has sucessfully used them, with the help of Tiller’s generous campaign donations.”
Sorry, Hank, this is a blatant lie and I am quite disappointed that you would say such a thing.
Morrison has denied getting any finacial help from Tiller. And even the likes of KS Meadowlark could never establish that Morrison got funds from Tiller or Pro-Kan-Do.
But please, your credibility {sic} is aided greatly when you make shit up. Please continue.
Phil Kline got campaign donations from Operation Rescue so I’m sure the antis are claiming Kline simply operated on the behest of Operation Rescue.
The files do no contain the names of the patients. So there is no way to identify the individual women. That was made clear when the judge ordered the files turned over in the first place.
It is not uncommon for medical files to be accessed by law enforcement. It was one of the tools used to catch BTK. Paul Morrison himself as a DA has used medical reports for prosecuting cases.
Stop making such a big deal out of this and let’s get to the facts. It makes not difference if you agree with the law or not. The law is the law and should be upheld until it is changed. Law enforcement, DA’s or judges should not be allowed to pick and chose which law they agree with and which one they do not.
The question is: Are illegal abortions occurring in Kansas or not?
“Morrison has denied getting any financial help from Tiller. And even the likes of KS Meadowlark could never establish that Morrison got funds from Tiller or Pro-Kan-Do.”
While a direct connection between Tiller/ProKanDo and Tiller has not been established, that doesn’t mean there are not indirect links. Morrison benefited from these indirect links but may not know about them. Here are some examples of indirect links:
1. Some voters in Kansas received as many as six Snoop Dog ads from a non-profit, Kansans for Consumer Privacy Protection. The cost of these mailings could have been huge, perhaps several hundred thousand dollars and all were aimed at helping Morrison and hurting Kline. http://www.kansasmeadowlark.com/2006/SnoopDogs/index.htm . The IRS in Ogden, UT in a May 8, 2007 letter says this “non-profit” has no recognized status with the IRS. “Our records show this organization does not have an approved application as a tax-exempt organization under 501(A) of the Internal Revenue Code”. If somehow this group is a “Kansas non-profit” but not an “IRS non-profit” there will be no reports of how much money was spent by this group. IRS 990s must be filed by IRS non-profits that spend more than $25,000/year.
Kansans for Consumer Privacy Protection was connected to the same address as ProKanDo in their incorporation information from the Kansas Secretary of State.http://www.kansasmeadowlark.com/2006/10-23/index.htm . This is one of the two known ProKanDo-related non-profits that were setup – see information about Kansas Progress below.
2. In the same Snoop Dog URL above, there is a note about Kansans for Lifesaving Cures sending out a mailing in support of Paul Morrison and against Phill Kline. What possible “lifesaving cure” is involved in the Attorney General’s race? (Perhaps single-episode depression?) That group spent $173,868 just before the election including a $129,674 expenditure on 10/27/2006 for “direct mail services and postage”. This is likely the cost of sending out the known two mailings for Paul Morrison and against Kline.Kansans for Lifesaving Cures participated in this massive political money scheme (especially in their Jan 2006 report), but with fewer dollars than the other players shown on this page: http://www.kansasmeadowlark.com/2007/01-23/index.htm [They also gave some token money to Kansas Republicans but perhaps only 20% of what they gave the Kansas Democrats.]Much of the money for Kansans for Lifesaving Cures ($100,000 + $50,000 + $300,000) came from James and Virginia Stowers from Kansas City, MO.
The Stowers also gave HUGE donations to the Greater Kansas City Chamber of Commerce PAC last year (e.g., $200,000 on 2/15/2005, $200,000 on 10/3/2005, $200,000 on 7/6/2006, $100,000 on 11/2/2005, $250,000 on 10/16/2006) – the relevance of that is next.
3. The Greater Kansas City Chamber knew how to transfer $25,000 to Progress Kansas on 9/28/2006 but failed to report the Kansas address on their Missouri report because the state of Missouri doesn’t care what a Missouri PAC does in Kansas. http://www.kansasmeadowlark.com/2006/10-18/index.htm (It’s a troubling matter that Kansas Governmental Ethics doesn’t care that much what Missouri PACs spend in Kansas, see http://www.kansasmeadowlark.com/2007/03-21/index.htm ). The Meadowlark reported that $25,000 transfer to unknown address in Kansas on 10/18/2006. Later on 11/3/2006 mailings from “Progress Kansas” were reported that were successful in knocking out several conservative prolife legislators. http://www.kansasmeadowlark.com/2006/KansasProgress/index.htm .BUT, Progress Kansas had the same incorporator in Lawrence as Kansans for Consumer Privacy Protection, which shared an address with ProKanDo. The IRS on May 8th said “Progress Kansas” has no IRS-recognized non-profit status also. SO, Missouri money that shared connections to the Greater Kansas City Chamber of Commerce and Jim Stowers was funneled to Kansans for Lifesaving Cures and Kansas Progress. ProKanDo used their Progress Kansas “non-profit” to knock out state legislators, and ProKanDo used their Kansans for Consumer Privacy Protection “non-profit” to knock out Phill Kline. Tiller’s ProKanDo influence in both of these non-profits had a huge impact on Kansas government, yet the press doesn’t investigate or report.
4. Remember the ProKanDo Bus Boys and Poets event in Washington, DC to raise money against Phill Kline? http://web.saljournal.com/blogs/?p=1064 ProKanDo in their report does show expenditure for this event but doesn’t show raising much money. Could it be they had a meeting in DC to coordinate direct contributions to Paul Morrison? Morrison could have benefited from this without knowing others were doing fund raising for him.Oddly, there are some very strange transfers between ProKanDo and the Young Democrats of America, which is headed by the Kansas Democratic Party money mastermind from 2002 – Chris Gallaway. See http://www.kansasmeadowlark.com/2006/10-03/2002.htm . [Gallaway in 2002 masterminded money transfers that almost defeated Kline.]In their IRS 8872 form, Gallaway and the Young Democrats of America reported receiving $25,000 on 6/28/2006 from ProKanDo in the weeks before the Bus Boys and Poets event in DC. In a separate IRS reporting period for the YDA 527, YDA then sent two checks to ProKanDo: $15,625 on 7/13/2006 and $15,625 on 7/14/2006. By Kansas Law, ProKanDo is supposed to report all three transactions. ProKanDo only reported the net transaction ($25,000 – $15,625 – $15,625) = $6,250 contribution from YDA. ProKanDo says this happened on 7/13, the day before they received their last $15,625 check. Because of weak Kansas Law, the Kansas Governmental Ethics folks see all of this as simple clerical errors by ProKanDo. Why all these money transfers, and why did this happen just before the ProKanDo fundraiser against Kline?
4. ProKanDo was #4 PAC in 2004 (see http://www.kansasmeadowlark.com/2006/10-03/2004.htm ) and dropped off the chart in 2006? They didn’t spend big money, or are they very legally clever in hiding what they’re doing? This isn’t proof, but it’s not logical that ProKanDo didn’t spend any money against Kline and for Morrison when you can find references to Kline in several of the ProKanDo PAC reports? For example, on 3/4/2005 ProKanDo spent $135 for “Kline Prospect Alert” or $410 on 3/1/2005 for “February Kline Alert”. Not that much money, but this shows ProKanDo was using Kline for fundraising.
5. ProKanDo shows several payments to their Kansans for Consumer Privacy Protection non-profit in the weeks before the election last year: $33,400 on 10/12/2006, $35,000 on 10/13/2006, $27,300 on 10/17/2006. Since this was the group paying for the Snoop Dog mailings and radio ads, Morrison benefitted from all this ProKanDo spending. ProKanDO is hding their other money raised as a “non-profit”.
6. On 10/10/2005 ProKanDo spent $15,000 at Cooper & Secrest in Alexandria, VA with no reason given for the expenditure. Is it possible this was advance planning work that the Kansas Democratic Party used to funnel money to Sebelius, Morrison, and Cooper & Secrest for more polling? See http://www.kansasmeadowlark.com/2007/01-23/index.htm . 7 payments of $17,900 = $125,300 were funneled to Cooper & Secrest via the Kansas Democratic Party. What did ProKanDo get for their $15,000? If the KDP spent $125,300 on just polling, how much did they spend as part of their action plan from the polling results. It was likely a huge amount, and Paul Morrison benefitted.
So, no there are no direct Tiller/Morrison connections. But there are many ways Tiller/ProKanDo helped Morrison get elected. Morrison doesn’t understand how he was bought. Perhaps over $1,000,000 was spent helping him.
No prolife group has anywhere near that much money. KFL, the biggest group, spent $8907 according to their Jan 2007 report, $22,320 in their Oct 2006 report, $14,744 in their July 2006 report, and $47 in their Jan 2006. KFL can barely afford their rent in comparison to the political money muscle that ProKanDo has.
“Morrison has denied getting any financial help from Tiller. And even the likes of KS Meadowlark could never establish that Morrison got funds from Tiller or Pro-Kan-Do.”
While a direct connection between Tiller/ProKanDo and Tiller has not been established, that doesn’t mean there are not indirect links. Morrison benefited from these indirect links but may not know about them. Here are some examples of indirect links:
1. Some voters in Kansas received as many as six Snoop Dog ads from a non-profit, Kansans for Consumer Privacy Protection. The cost of these mailings could have been huge, perhaps several hundred thousand dollars and all were aimed at helping Morrison and hurting Kline. http://www.kansasmeadowlark.com/2006/SnoopDogs/index.htm . The IRS in Ogden, UT in a May 8, 2007 letter says this “non-profit” has no recognized status with the IRS. “Our records show this organization does not have an approved application as a tax-exempt organization under 501(A) of the Internal Revenue Code”. If somehow this group is a “Kansas non-profit” but not an “IRS non-profit” there will be no reports of how much money was spent by this group. IRS 990s must be filed by IRS non-profits that spend more than $25,000/year.
Kansans for Consumer Privacy Protection was connected to the same address as ProKanDo in their incorporation information from the Kansas Secretary of State.http://www.kansasmeadowlark.com/2006/10-23/index.htm . This is one of the two known ProKanDo-related non-profits that were setup – see information about Kansas Progress below.
2. In the same Snoop Dog URL above, there is a note about Kansans for Lifesaving Cures sending out a mailing in support of Paul Morrison and against Phill Kline. What possible “lifesaving cure” is involved in the Attorney General’s race? (Perhaps single-episode depression?) That group spent $173,868 just before the election including a $129,674 expenditure on 10/27/2006 for “direct mail services and postage”. This is likely the cost of sending out the known two mailings for Paul Morrison and against Kline.Kansans for Lifesaving Cures participated in this massive political money scheme (especially in their Jan 2006 report), but with fewer dollars than the other players shown on this page: http://www.kansasmeadowlark.com/2007/01-23/index.htm [They also gave some token money to Kansas Republicans but perhaps only 20% of what they gave the Kansas Democrats.]Much of the money for Kansans for Lifesaving Cures ($100,000 + $50,000 + $300,000) came from James and Virginia Stowers from Kansas City, MO.
The Stowers also gave HUGE donations to the Greater Kansas City Chamber of Commerce PAC last year (e.g., $200,000 on 2/15/2005, $200,000 on 10/3/2005, $200,000 on 7/6/2006, $100,000 on 11/2/2005, $250,000 on 10/16/2006) – the relevance of that is next.
3. The Greater Kansas City Chamber knew how to transfer $25,000 to Progress Kansas on 9/28/2006 but failed to report the Kansas address on their Missouri report because the state of Missouri doesn’t care what a Missouri PAC does in Kansas. http://www.kansasmeadowlark.com/2006/10-18/index.htm (It’s a troubling matter that Kansas Governmental Ethics doesn’t care that much what Missouri PACs spend in Kansas, see http://www.kansasmeadowlark.com/2007/03-21/index.htm ). The Meadowlark reported that $25,000 transfer to unknown address in Kansas on 10/18/2006. Later on 11/3/2006 mailings from “Progress Kansas” were reported that were successful in knocking out several conservative prolife legislators. http://www.kansasmeadowlark.com/2006/KansasProgress/index.htm .BUT, Progress Kansas had the same incorporator in Lawrence as Kansans for Consumer Privacy Protection, which shared an address with ProKanDo. The IRS on May 8th said “Progress Kansas” has no IRS-recognized non-profit status also. SO, Missouri money that shared connections to the Greater Kansas City Chamber of Commerce and Jim Stowers was funneled to Kansans for Lifesaving Cures and Kansas Progress. ProKanDo used their Progress Kansas “non-profit” to knock out state legislators, and ProKanDo used their Kansans for Consumer Privacy Protection “non-profit” to knock out Phill Kline. Tiller’s ProKanDo influence in both of these non-profits had a huge impact on Kansas government, yet the press doesn’t investigate or report.
4. Remember the ProKanDo Bus Boys and Poets event in Washington, DC to raise money against Phill Kline? http://web.saljournal.com/blogs/?p=1064 ProKanDo in their report does show expenditure for this event but doesn’t show raising much money. Could it be they had a meeting in DC to coordinate direct contributions to Paul Morrison? Morrison could have benefited from this without knowing others were doing fund raising for him.Oddly, there are some very strange transfers between ProKanDo and the Young Democrats of America, which is headed by the Kansas Democratic Party money mastermind from 2002 – Chris Gallaway. See http://www.kansasmeadowlark.com/2006/10-03/2002.htm . [Gallaway in 2002 masterminded money transfers that almost defeated Kline.]In their IRS 8872 form, Gallaway and the Young Democrats of America reported receiving $25,000 on 6/28/2006 from ProKanDo in the weeks before the Bus Boys and Poets event in DC. In a separate IRS reporting period for the YDA 527, YDA then sent two checks to ProKanDo: $15,625 on 7/13/2006 and $15,625 on 7/14/2006. By Kansas Law, ProKanDo is supposed to report all three transactions. ProKanDo only reported the net transaction ($25,000 – $15,625 – $15,625) = $6,250 contribution from YDA. ProKanDo says this happened on 7/13, the day before they received their last $15,625 check. Because of weak Kansas Law, the Kansas Governmental Ethics folks see all of this as simple clerical errors by ProKanDo. Why all these money transfers, and why did this happen just before the ProKanDo fundraiser against Kline?
4. ProKanDo was #4 PAC in 2004 (see http://www.kansasmeadowlark.com/2006/10-03/2004.htm ) and dropped off the chart in 2006? They didn’t spend big money, or are they very legally clever in hiding what they’re doing? This isn’t proof, but it’s not logical that ProKanDo didn’t spend any money against Kline and for Morrison when you can find references to Kline in several of the ProKanDo PAC reports? For example, on 3/4/2005 ProKanDo spent $135 for “Kline Prospect Alert” or $410 on 3/1/2005 for “February Kline Alert”. Not that much money, but this shows ProKanDo was using Kline for fundraising.
5. ProKanDo shows several payments to their Kansans for Consumer Privacy Protection non-profit in the weeks before the election last year: $33,400 on 10/12/2006, $35,000 on 10/13/2006, $27,300 on 10/17/2006. Since this was the group paying for the Snoop Dog mailings and radio ads, Morrison benefitted from all this ProKanDo spending. ProKanDO is hding their other money raised as a “non-profit”.
6. On 10/10/2005 ProKanDo spent $15,000 at Cooper & Secrest in Alexandria, VA with no reason given for the expenditure. Is it possible this was advance planning work that the Kansas Democratic Party used to funnel money to Sebelius, Morrison, and Cooper & Secrest for more polling? See http://www.kansasmeadowlark.com/2007/01-23/index.htm . 7 payments of $17,900 = $125,300 were funneled to Cooper & Secrest via the Kansas Democratic Party. What did ProKanDo get for their $15,000? If the KDP spent $125,300 on just polling, how much did they spend as part of their action plan from the polling results. It was likely a huge amount, and Paul Morrison benefitted.
So, no there are no direct Tiller/Morrison connections. But there are many ways Tiller/ProKanDo helped Morrison get elected. Morrison doesn’t understand how he was bought. Perhaps over $1,000,000 was spent helping him.
No prolife group has anywhere near that much money. KFL, the biggest group, spent $8907 according to their Jan 2007 report, $22,320 in their Oct 2006 report, $14,744 in their July 2006 report, and $47 in their Jan 2006. KFL can barely afford their rent in comparison to the political money muscle that ProKanDo has.
Sheesh Meadowlark, it’s pathetic how little research you do. A state PAC doesn’t need to register as a federal PAC. So naturally if donations are going strictly to Kansas state level candidates the IRS won’t have a record of it. This is another example of your sloppy work, kinda like how you claimed Sebelius was attending a jazz concert in New Orleans. Collect a few more Fruit Loop box tops and you may someday become a real reporter.
“audiatur et altera pars” Attorney General Morrison, “audiatur et altera pars.”
“No prolife group has anywhere near that much money.”Posted by: Kansas Meadowlark | June 14, 2007 at 02:53 AM
Oh please, give us all a break, Meadowlark. Every radicalized church in the state of Kansas got involved in Kline’s race last year. Have you (conveniently) forgotten the memo that leaked out of the Kline campaign? How many tens or hundreds of thousands in unreportable church funds were spent to keep that loser in office? We’ll never know, because churches can’t be audited unless their tax status is under investigation.
Speaking of churches under investigation, how are things going for your friends at Wichita’s “Spirit One ‘Christian’ Center?”
And Kansans for Life? You’re talking about their PAC, not their foundation. KFL has at least three offices around the state, all professionally staffed. Don’t give us your b*llsh*t about “they don’t have enough money to pay the rent.” KFL does exactly the same thing every advocacy organization does – it segregates funds intended for various purposes into various subsidiary organizations.
At least the anti-Kline campaigns _report_ their expenditures, and don’t hire people like you to lie about them.
Oh, and speaking of hiring liars – exactly what did Brenda Landwehr hire you to do for her campaign last year? Your programming specialty seems to be graphics imaging – you know, just like the software used in Sedgwick County’s voting machines. You don’t live in Sedgwick County; you live three hours away in Johnson County. Yet a Sedgwick County state representative paid you $1000 for “data work.” Share with us what kind of “data work” you were doing. Be honest (for a change).
That away Tom! If you can’t address the issues, attack the poster!
Typical Liberal Left commentary.
Whoa Steven,
Calling me a liar? Thats a little rude! Typical of your elitist debating style, but still rude.
If you or anyone on this BLOG thinks that Morrison would have even challenged Kline without the financial help of Teller you are too ignorant of the Kansas political scene to even participate in a political debate.
And you call my credibility into question?
Fool.
Hank
How did you find that out Tom? I looked him up last year and couldn’t find squat!
And he denied ever doing anything to contribute to a campaign- even though Phill Kline used one of his own writings to pass around to the churches.
By the way, I asked him to recant on the Sebelius NO story, and he never did. Go figure.
“Even the abortion lobby cannot trivialize an incinerator full of illegally butchered viable babies.We will have justice. We will have it.
Posted by: parkay | June 13, 2007 at 10:49 PM ”
Dude, you sound spooooookier by the day.
What happens when the justice you seek doesn’t happen? When the truth isn’t the truth you want it to be?
Pmom,
He’s on Landwehr’s campaign finance report from October 26 of last year.
I also know he’s donated to Mary Pilcher-Cook’s campaign, so if he’s telling you he doesn’t give to campaigns, um, that would be very untrue.
I confess Hank, that was a little strong. Misinformed would probably be a more fair description of your “information”.
I’ll also confess that I have heard the “Morrison is in Tiller’s hip pocket” disinformation campaign for so long, that I do get a little reactive to it.
In the interest of full disclosure, I contributed money to Morrison’s campaign, did work for him, and have met him. He claims to have not accepted any money from Tiller – not a dime in the 1.9 million dollars he raised in the 2006 campaign. I have looked through all of his pdfs that were released after the election – no mention of money from Tiller or ProKanDo. But, you what is kind of funny, I am not listed there as being a contributer, either. So, I have first hand knowledge that those records are not perfect.
Did the alleged ProKanDo subcorporation help Morrison in its smear campaign against Kline. Probably. I think it is pretty widely accepted that ProKanDo and the Snoop-Dog attack campaign were related – though not proven, that I know of.
On the subject of why the Morrison case is taking so long. Let me say that this is only SPECULATION, but I am thinking that DSM diagnoses have been misused in order to justify late term abortions by Tiller and his associates. Misusing these diagnoses is very easy to do, and very difficult to prove.
There needs to be a financially independent review process for these psychiatric evaluations. It is human nature that one’s financial interests have a way of guiding one’s perception of reality.
Simply put, the reason this is taking so long, is that this is an extremely complicated investigation. Morrison should take his time and get it right. I believe he will do that.
Republican: “That away Tom! If you can’t address the issues, attack the poster!
Typical Liberal Left commentary.”
He did address the issues in his post. He also attacked Meadowlark’s credibility. Since Meadowlark passes himself off as an investigator, indications that he does not apply consistent criteria and that he is a hired gun for politician’s go straight to his credibility.
Typical shallow reaction from Republican.
“while the Legislature can do nothing whatsoever to check his obstruction of justice, now that they are long adjourned after accomplishing NOTHING to clean up this corruption.”
I am assuming that means the KANSAS legislature?
Hm……
The last time I checked the kansas legislature was DOMINATED by… wait for it…
REPUBLICANS!!!! So… tell them. Not us.
Pretty sad to beat up on “liberals” when the real culprit, even named by you, is the REPUBLICAN dominated kansas legislature.
Hypocrisy, thy name is…
Good job Tom. The stars might lie but the numbers never do.
Heheheheh. I told ya, the wingnuts on call are SHILLS paid to do the work of the repukes.
Data work? For brenda? On the WE blog? And they deny it?
Say it isnt so…
Hee hee hee hee. We must be WAY more dangerous than they admit. Wouldnt it be great if bon bon blames her gone gone on us?
Gee that would mean we beat the hell outa paulie rosellie the shillie?
hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehhe
ksagnostic,
It takes zero brain power to “attack credibility” as you say. One actually has to think and use higher cognitive skills in order to create a post like meadowlark does.
I don’t agree with meadowlark on issues, but I think he is a tremendously powerful advocate for his belief in a cause. He never has posted trivial, undocumented trash like I see here on the WE Blog that is done frequently by the Liberal Left.
BTW, I support a woman’s right to choose as it is the law of the land and understand the need for it. However, the procedures to murder viable babies in the womb is beyond barbaric, it should be a capitol offense.
Just ask any competent OB doctor how they consider the age of babies viable that Tiller thinks are just lumps of flesh.
Steven,
Contributions to Kansas races are reportable in aggregate, not by name, if they are $50 and under.
Contributions to Federal races become reportable by name _at_ $50.
Farmgrrl,
I can hear your laugh in my head. STOP THAT.
Thanks. I contributed multiple times, each amount greater than $50. A few times I paid with a credit card, I didn’t know if that might have caused the accounting error?
I stand by my contention that the .pdf records are not perfect. I would also favor those records being released BEFORE the election rather than after. Sunlight is a helpful thing, ya know.
Making general statements about the files or specific statements about individual files that have had all of the personal information redacted in no way violates patient confidentiallity.
Hank Price | June 13, 2007 at 03:05 PM
Hank, you really need to research HIPAA. It DOES violate confidentiality, since the files were shared, even without patient information, with someone who is not involved with their treatment, or with the criminal case itself.
Judging by KFL’s filings they made plenty of money to pay the rent. They even got financial donations from Judge Yost who was one of the judges to claim that Tiller violated the law. Not surprising an anti-abortion judge who donates to anti-abortion groups thinks Dr. Tiller is guilty. Any mention of that by Meadowlark? Of course not.
http://www.kansas.gov/ethics/CFAScanned/ElecCycle2006/200607/PAC081_200607.pdf
Meadowlark and the facts, never shall the two meet. It’s no surprise Meadowlark doesn’t advertise that he worked for a racist congresswoman. Probably he doesn’t want to add to the history of racism and the anti-abortion movement.
Dear TDT,
I don’t need to researce anything. I am currently the HIPAA manager for three separate clinics. I have a working knowledge of all the laws of Kansas concerning patient records and all of the regulations and recent rulings of the Kansas State Board of Healing Arts.
The records of Teller’s patients were obtained legally by the AG and now laws or regulations were broken when the redacted records were made available to McHugh.
I don’t think it was ethical for Mchugh to talk publically abut them because he was hired by the AG to consult on the case. I don’t think it was very smart for Kline to hire McHugh considering his political agenda.
I think it was dispicalble for Morrison to use the records as a political football. I might ad that the bogus records BS brought forward by Morrison was very cleverly coordinated with Teller’s six ‘Snoop Dog’ mailings.
It is a shame that the voters in Kansasare so gullible that they can be fooled by such a bogus compaign. Kline vs Morrison, dumb and dumber.
Hank
Hank,
Let’s draw a distinction here. Morrison didn’t make women’s medical records as a “political football.” Phill Kline had shown that he was going to turn the KSAG office into his own anti-abortion law firm, and he was going to use women’s medical histories to do it. What Morrison made into a “political football” was the completely unprofessional behavior of Kline and Kline’s pursuit of those records. Kline was then “punted.”
Good riddance.
Hank I’m glad you said finally that this ‘doctor’ should not be discussing these records publicly.
But to say that Morrison won simply by Tiller’s hand is false and I think you know it. Kline lost by a LARGE margin, and there are plenty of other anti-choice candidates who won.
Face it, nobody LIKED Kline- they didn’t like what he was doing, not even among those who think Tiller MIGHT had been wrong.
Hank, thanks for your response. However, please note that I wasn’t asking about the legality of the issue, but rather the appropriateness. Dr/client privilege and all that, but that’s ok. Personally I still think this is a witch hunt started by Kline.But I do agree with you about the future realities of HIPAA. More big brother coming.
“He never has posted trivial, undocumented trash like I see here on the WE Blog that is done frequently by the Liberal Left.”
I guess LYING about sebelius and the jazzfest dont count? And then posting the lie AGAIN, after it had been publicly discredited isnt “undocumented trash”?
That statement doesnt even merit a verse of walk on by…
Well, we all know why Kline started this whole mess to begin with- he just wanted to read about the sex lives of teenage girls!
No, it was not big bad Tiller who defeeated Kline. Morrison ran a good campaign, was able to hang the “incompetent” and “only a politician” labels on Kline. Kline, want to talk about dumb and dumbest, thought he only needed to campaign against Tiller, who was not even on the ticket.
Kline did not see the wrting on the wall, until it was way too late. Morrison claims that it was the last debate before it even dawned on Kline that he could possibly lose – very late in the game, one might say.
Another one bites the dust…
Double L Phill gave records to Bill O’reily and made a mockary of HIPPA
and Hank…you are dangerously close to breaking confidence too.
Bottom Line. Abortion is LEGAL and you MEN will never have to make that decision anyway.
I have an idea, lets castrate all males then there woudl be no abortions… yea your arguements are that stupid as well