Some conservative Republicans are mad at President Bush and some of his top officials for suggesting that opponents of his immigration bill are unpatriotic. "Why would they speak so insultingly, with such hostility, of opponents who are concerned citizens?" wrote Peggy Noonan in the Wall Street Journal. It’s understandable that these conservatives are upset. But maybe now they can appreciate why Americans who have concerns about the war on terror also don’t appreciate having their patriotism questioned.
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“Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori.” Rex Oedi-Bush should take this to heart, instead of the automatic name calling anyone who disagree as “unpatriotic”. Or, is he more in tune with “L’Etat, c’est moi”?
More like, “Je suis Dieu, vais thyself de baise.”
The plan is a crock of poop IMHO. I think he is trying to swing the Latin American/Hispanic vote over to the red side. The borders are all open. Why don’t we just annex Mexico? We will have just as many of their citizens here as there.
This is rather amusing. Seems whenever Bush has a problem building consensus he resorts to such name-calling. Perhaps he might be better served if he were to at least attempt to convince people that his proposal has merit.
I might be willing to consider that possibility; however in view of his name-calling that task becomes infinitely more difficult.
Damn those communist, terrorist-loving, Frenchophile, surrender-monkeys.
You know, the 70 percent of Americans who oppose Bush policy . . . the unpatriotic ones.
And it’s really disingenuous of Peggy Noonan to support the Swiftboating of Kerry, the vicious attacks on the dissenters and now get all weepy when her position gets singed by the same fire-breathers.
Karma is such a beyotch, ain’t it, Peggy . . .
The irony is too delicious. Enjoy, Peggy!
We didn’t even have to wait for a Democratic president to get elected for Republicans to whine about how their president is calling them names.
Boo hoo.
gad,
peggy Noonan agrees withso many about the President not having any common sense and all people do is harangue her. No bias there. The matrix is real
Bush is so wrong on so many issues.
Littlejohn,
Noonan has been a pretty consistent cheerleader for the Bush administration. That she’s now on the receiving end of his famously acerbic accusations of being un-patriotic is funny in a darkly ironic kind of way.
I drove to KC & back yesterday afternoon/evening, and while on the road, tuned in to some of the “conservative” talk radio stations. In between rebroadcasts of FDR’s D-Day prayer, the spin machine was in full force defending Bush for calling other conservatives unpatriotic. The only detractor I heard was Boortz. As the evening progressed, the shows moved from defending Bush to attacking the Senate, all in the same language. I guess the talking points had been faxed out…
“Noonan has been a pretty consistent cheerleader for the Bush administration. That she’s now on the receiving end of his famously acerbic accusations of being un-patriotic is funny in a darkly ironic kind of way.”
I understand, but what would you suggest she do? COntinue to defend the President, or point out where he is wrong? Either way, by way of the posts above, she loses.
Littlejohn,
Anyone who consistently supported Bush while he and his henchmen screamed “unpatriotic” and “un-American” and “treason” at anyone who dared to have the audacity to disagree with him, well, a little bit of mockery isn’t too much, in my opinion.
“COntinue to defend the President, or point out where he is wrong? Either way, by way of the posts above, she loses”
Yep.
It’s just damn tough to be a bushie these days. She “lost” when she threw her lot in with the bushes.
Funny, somehow the piper must always be paid.
All bushco has ever had are their talking points about being very afraid, and others that wave the flag while holding the Bible in the other hand — no need to make any sense when waving the flag and holding the Bible. It’s how he fooled enough people to get elected and all he’s ever used. Some are just slower to see through these tactics.
Good to see you back grrl. Everything OK?
Okay. I get it. If you’ve supported Bush in the past, you deserve everything you get, even if you change your mind Okay, so those who haven’t hate the 1/2 that did. Talk about intolerance and a need for idealogical purity. And you talk about Republicans. Thanks for letting me know to not switch parties, because I will still be wrong and deserve ridicule.Reminds me of the hippy days of the late sixties, early seventies. Do you own thing, unless of course, it’s not long hair, dopesmoking, and free love. Then you are square and to be ridiculeed. The only acceptable thing was to CONFORM to the noncofrmist viewpoint. ANd rock bands got rich acting like anticapitolists while collecting nice royalties and ticket prices. HAHAHAHAHA. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. The matrix lives.
Littlejohn,
Ouch. Okay, I understand your point here, and see where some of it is valid.
However…
Agreeing/disagreeing with Bush policies is one thing. But Bush has been engaged in the language of personal smear since at least mid-2002, when the Iraq debate was in full swing. Noonan and other conservatives continued to support him through the years, and didn’t call him out on his name-calling until _now_.
You’ve seen the smear-machine at work. Bill O’Reilly, Ann Coulter and others have spent the past five years attacking the patriotism of people who disagree with Bush’s policies. That “smear” has become part of American culture – you’ve seen it here, when I and others have had our loyalty to and love for America attacked just for questioning Administration policies and actions.
Now Bush’s longtime conservative supporters are the targets of this vitriol. If they’d spoken out against it before, that would be one thing. But it’s been 5 years of either silence or active agreement…
I love the closing paragraph of Noonan’d editorial:
“Now conservatives and Republicans are going to have to win back their party. They are going to have to break from those who have already broken from them. This will require courage, serious thinking and an ability to do what psychologists used to call letting go. This will be painful, but it’s time. It’s more than time.”
Been there, done that.
Thanks Solly. I’m fine, just REALLY busy right now.
Oh, and did I mention the bubbly we broke out here in the west when it was announced that David Pope was retiring?
Heheheh. Now he can screw up MISSOURI’s water policy for next twenty years…
Meanwhile, in Bush’s war …
“Bush nominee: Pushing Iraq may not work
WASHINGTON – The three-star general picked by President Bush to become his personal war adviser suggested on Thursday that pressuring the Iraqis to take on more responsibility may not work.
“I have reservations about just how much leverage we can apply in a system that’s not very capable right now,” Lt. Gen. Douglas Lute said during his confirmation hearing before the Senate Armed Services Committee.”
Let’s see now, we have spent over four years training several hundred thousand ARI troops and they still cannot be expected to take on any responsibility to deal with a handful of dead-enders in their last throes.
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!
Great post Tom. And LJ? Yes, the bushco disaster was not difficult to see coming. Only the WILLFULLY blind were unable to see it.
Sorry if we are a little bitter that over two hundred years of government by the people and FOR the people were washed down the drain, not only by bushco…
…but by their enablers as well.
And with all due respect, you may be different, but most of the loyal bushies only opened their eyes to the rape of America when it could no longer be ignored.
Just a little more whitewash, and they would have never opened their eyes at all. It’s only been thirty some odd years since nixon, and then we put THIS bastard in office?
How quickly we forget. Just how painful DO the lessons have to be for this nation to actually LEARN from mistakes instead of just repeating them?
Somehow I think the old saying about tying a dead chicken around a dog’s neck should apply here.
What WILL it take for the republicans to stop killing chickens?
On this one, I am just going to sit back and watch the conservatives have at it. I don’t agree with the Bush/McCain immigration bill in total, but I don’t think that those in opposition rise to the level of treason.
It’s just funny to watch the conservatives eat their own.
WS,
Some of us walked away from the feast. ;)
I have conflicting feelings on this, like Victor Hanson author of Mexifornia. We grew up with Mexican friends, worked with Mexicans in the fields, and realized through long experience, that they are, in the vast majority, decent, reasonable, hard-working, generous, and eager to help you out if you need it.
But we also realize that the flood of Mexican immigrants over the past 30 years has wrought substantial problems. Hanson, a professor at Cal State Fresno, has noted that large numbers of Latinos who came here as young children after 1970, or who were born here, are highly fluent in oral English, but not in written English–nor in written Spanish either. They are illiterate.
The healthcare costs and education costs of these immigrants and their U.S.-born children, have not been fairly paid for.
The parents, working for lowest-possible-wage-seeking employers, do not have health insurance, and their property-tax contributions are far below their children’s educational costs. (Their landlords pay property taxes on rental properties, which are incorporated in the rental prices, but these are low-assessment properties.)
So, it is the employers of illegal immigrants are foisting healthcare and education costs on American taxpayers who don’t employ illegal immigrants.
The SCOTUS declared that illegal immigrants must receive healthcare and public education, in the absence of Constitutional provisions or statutes to this effect.
The argument is made that the immigrants do jobs that American citizens don’t want to do. I did fieldwork, including harvesting broccoli one Christmas vacation. I mowed lawns, clipped hedges and weeded gardens for people. I even cleaned houses. These were decent jobs for teenagers. They taught responsibility. Hard physical work is fine when you’re young and physically vigorous. Such work also encourages young people to devise output-efficiency strategies on their own.
We had a roof replaced a few years ago. All the workers were illegal immigrants. What would be wrong with Kansas-citizen teenagers/young adults doing this work? It’s not hard to learn. Our schools train young people to be lazy and indifferent, and not strive to do good-quality work. They need counter experiences. They can’t get them when illegal immigrants who are willing to work for lower wages, take up the available entry-level jobs that teach young people crucial life-lessons.
Tom-
I agree with the last portion of Peggy noonans column. I agree with a lot of her column. Bush is apparently out of touch. Some come to that realization quite late. But, Bush didn;t introduced the politics of hate any more than CLinton/Carville did. Read the Douglass/Lincoln debates. Read some of the early Newspapers, Still, There is plenty to go round these days.until people stop flinging mud at each other, and work to resolve problems, that f##ckers in charge will always be in charge and laugh their asses off all the way to the bank. The vitrol on this blog just proves to me that the left is no better than the right. If you are against abortion, you hate women. If you are a Christian, you hate science. If you don;t think Bush is alternatively a complete moron or a machievellian genius, you hate America. Talk about hate? That freaking moron that was on Air America spewed plenty. Then when someone says something, it’s “Look at Rush Hannity. Look what they are saying” like that makes it right. Of course, when Bush supporters point out Clintons or some other democrats failures many on the left say “you fool, I see you are a hypocrite because you are trying to justify Bushes actions by pointing out the faults of others”
You should never have had your patriosm questioned because you believe this administration or any other is going down the wrong path. I am sorry that some seem to think otherwise. Without public discourse, freedom means mothing. But in my mind, public discourse does not mean “na na na nana, told you so”.
“Without public discourse, freedom means mothing. But in my mind, public discourse does not mean “na na na nana, told you so”.
You’re right.
Dammit, Littlejohn, you’re making me behave all reasonable and mature. I hate that.
you’re making me behave all reasonable and mature. I hate that.
Posted by: Tom | June 07, 2007 at 10:59 AM
Haha! Great! Funny as heck! I have a teeshirt once given to me. it says “cleverly disguised as a responsible adult” it’s one of my favorites.
“You should never have had your patriotism questioned”
The most reasoned and intelligent comment on the blog in a long, long, long time.
Seriously.
MPS – good points. Perhaps resurrecting an old idea might help address some of this:
It used to be that many immigarnts were ’sponsored’ into the US. This was often done by churches, relatives, etc. Perhaps this concept could be expanded to include employers as sponsors. After all, if these immigrants are going to work for these companies then the companies should help shoulder the costs for the transition.
Responsibilities of the sponsors might include some sort of guanuntee of employment for a time certain; education in English, both spoken and written. Underwriting public education costs for children of immigrant families. Health care.
It IS too bad that Bush has turned this into yet another “You are an America-hater” exercise instead of fostering a free exchange of ideas.
Responsibilities of the sponsors might include some sort of guanuntee of employment for a time certain; education in English, both spoken and written. Underwriting public education costs for children of immigrant families. Health care.
Ben- that might not be a bad idea, I will have to think it through, but I bet it would lose it’s corporate sponsorship really quickly. :)
It IS too bad that Bush has turned this into yet another “You are an America-hater” exercise instead of fostering a free exchange of ideas.
Yes it is. More “we know better than you” thinking from a government official. Who da thunk?
LJ,There is already a program like that in place. There are quite a few Indian’s here in my field on sponsored visas.
Please disregard the apostrophe
“This White House thinks its base is stupid and that its heart is in the wrong place.”
PRICELESS!
I dont know which Right Wing talk radio some of you have been listening to, but they ALL seem to be calling Bush’s proposal, an Amnesty Plan, no matter what Bush said in his speech over the weekend…
However, it is funny(sad), because as soon as they say Bush is wrong, they somehow turn it around to being the fault of Democrats!!
Hannity, Rush, Beck, Savage, Levin all said those very things yesterday, and Rush is back at it already this morning!!
So, BUSH is wrong, but it’s the Democrats fault?? Priceless logic from the Reich Wing!
“You should never have had your patriotism questioned”
I somewhat agree with that statement, but I would say on the flip side, that one could say,
“You should always have your Patriotism challenged.”
What I mean by my statement is when people start becoming selfish about the “me” status of themselves instead of being concerned about the viability of our national identity, then we have a problem.
Why is national identity important? It shows the world who we are and what we stand for in our ideology of existence as a nation.
If the world sees a U.S. that is sharply divided and the media hammer relentlessly address issues out for no other reason than spite, then we will be looked at as a nation that cannot be trusted on its basic issues.
This works both ways by the way. The MSM constantly displaying dismal representations of the War in Iraq, not only permanently damages the morale or our troops, it shows that politicians for the war at its beginning are unwilling to follow through on “tough” situations.
The inability to follow through will be interpreted by other nations as a sign of weakness and indecision. The old Soviet Union used to serve this waffling up on a gleeful platter of competing ideologies.
On the other side, War Hawks who blindly use military power to push ideology is no better than an aggressive dictator who seeks glory without regard to the human condition of those invaded.
This causes a partial decline in morale of troops, but more importantly it causes the mechanism of war to be ingrained as a first solution. This is a dangerous path and should not be taken.
In my opinion, patriotism is more about being level-headed than compulsive on issues about war or the wise care of our national identity.
Straying from the middle point of compromise and wise council only causes ideological battle on mostly unimportant issues leading to a bigger crisis, the careful maintenance of our national identity. Lack of maintenance leads to chaotic thinking, discourse on problems where there should be none with the result of nothing will really happen, because we have strayed from our status of being the wise patriot.
Walk on by…………..
Republican, if I interpret your post correctly, one’s patriotism should be challenged based on their “concerned about the viability of our national identity…”
Anybody see the story yesterday about the Parliament of Iraq calling for immediate plans for the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq?? It made a few headlines… but not very many… I found it to be somewhat interesting, in that the MSM cannot be held accountable for this one… And Clinton didnt do it! LOL
Yes, why else would we be patriots?
If we don’t have a common trait to enjoin Patriotism then what shall we use?
Shall we use pride? Hitler tried that with his Arian race concept.
Shall we use superiority? The Soviet Union tried that.
What shall we use in a nation that has so many ethnic origins, so many religious beliefs and so many who want a secular rule to govern all?
The only reasonable thing left is national identity.
Our founding fathers realized that national identity promotes compromise because there is a common goal to be achieved regardless of our political alliance, financial, spiritual or ethnicity.
If we don’t keep a national identity to solve our problems through compromise, then what do we have left?
Chaos perhaps?
Does anyone see that happening now?
Damn straight Repub. Damn straight and well said.
Blind nationalism is NOT patriotism. Every nation can whip up the passions of nationalism, and use that as a justification for destruction of their perceived enemies, internal and external.
Patriotism goes beyond knee-jerk nationalism. In America, it’s a love of the ideals that built this nation, and the willingness to defend them. Chief among those ideals is the right to dissent, and to speak that dissent freely to power. Knee-jerk nationalism brooks no challenge to its supremacy.
Just walking by……
“Patriotism goes beyond knee-jerk nationalism. {snip} Knee-jerk nationalism brooks no challenge to its supremacy.”
Damn straight Tom. Damn straight and well said.
MPS,We shouldn’t allow illegals in because then employers would have no incentive to rip off our children? Now that’s really scraping the bottom of the barrel for an argument!
How is the right to dissent without providing solutions working out for you Tom?
If a country does not maintain its identity which enables compromise, nothing gets accomplished.
Maintaining a national identity is not nationalism. The Nazis were nationalistic and used group identification to further their cause. Sound familiar Tom?
We we have thousands of differing identities all pushing for their own agendas fighting the government every step of the way by methods of chaos and abusive speech, then we have accomplished nothing as a nation.
National identity is a means to an end to keep patriotism alive in our country. It is not a method of mindless divisiveness or one of conspiratorial rights abuser.
National identity promotes compromise.
That deserves a double chorus, walk on by, walk on by……….
WS,
The blank makes my point for me by its immediate reaching for personal attacks.
This isn’t even a “walk on by” moment. You’ve seen Dr. Strangelove, right? This guy is Col. Bat Guano, all over again.
So then, Republican, you would have a national identity we all rally around belike the counterpoints from your first post:
A U.S. that is Not sharply divided and with a media hammer that relentlessly addresses issues for reasons other than spite, so we will be looked at as a nation that can be trusted on its basic issues.
A country with a MSM that does Not constantly display dismal representations of the War in Iraq, so as not to permanently damages the morale of our troops or to show that politicians for the war at its beginning are unwilling to follow through on “tough” situations.
We would avoid straying from the middle point of compromise and wise council so as not to cause ideological battles on mostly unimportant issues which could lead to a bigger crisis and undermine our national identity.
The “Patriots” are all for compromise just as long as you agree with them. If you don’t then you can’t be a “Patriot” by their definition.
Da dah dup dup dah dah di dup dup DAH . . .
Patriotism goes beyond knee-jerk nationalism. In America, it’s a love of the ideals that built this nation, and the willingness to defend them. Chief among those ideals is the right to dissent, and to speak that dissent freely to power. Knee-jerk nationalism brooks no challenge to its supremacy.
Posted by: Tom | June 07, 2007 at 12:10 PM
I agree with this, but I somewhat understand what Republican is saying. Because we are a nation of immigrants, what holds us together is the national identity of being American, which should be based on the ideals of this nation. Agreed that it does not always hold to those ideals, but the balkanization of America will not help, in my opinion. Where he errs is that this country was founded upon dissent, has a huge history of dissent, and IS part of the makeup of this country. Of course we have ” thousands of differing identities all pushing for their own agendas” It has always been such, or has been for a very long time. Because we are a nation of nonhomogenous people. The American identity, while it has it’s regional differences, is an amalgamation of it’s people. Sometimes that causes conflict. Somestimes, compromise fixes it. But compromise cannot exist without each side stating their position, without fear.
Are there any on the Right who think that the Iraqi Parliament’s Petition for U. S. Troop withdrawal might possibly damage the morale of our troops?? You know, to be told that the people your commanders tell you that you are there to protect, dont WANT you there??
Hey, I am sure that you would define me by saying on the right, and yeah, it would be damaging to the morale. ANd yeah, if that’s what they want, let’s start tomorrow. Or today.
Well, good… Now thats what the Democrats opposing Bush’s war machine have been saying for quite a long time.. They just said it before the Iraqi Parliament..
“if that’s what they want, let’s start tomorrow. Or today.”
Respectfully, LJ, it has been clear for some time that the Iraqi people do not want us there. It is their civil war – let them fight it.
The only ones that want us there are al Qaeda and George W Bush.
Now that is a helluva combination.
The American identity, while it has it’s regional differences, is an amalgamation of it’s people. Sometimes that causes conflict. Somestimes, compromise fixes it. But compromise cannot exist without each side stating their position, without fear.Posted by: littlejohn | June 07, 2007 at 12:33 PM
I can’t add anything to that.
WS-
You get no complaint from me. I was being serious. If that’s what they want, and since they are a duly elected government, let’s get the hell outta there. I agree with you.(gasp)Of course, I have always stated that I was against going into Iraq in the first place. My one concern was leaving in a manner that did the least harm. But hey, if their elected officials want us out NOW, it’s their call. We should start pulling out immediately.
“start pulling out immediately” I heard once that is what Daddy Bush told Momma Bush he should have done after he had his first look at W when he was born LOL
There is finally and exit strategy. If they want us out, we leave and the nation crumbles, we did what they asked us to do.
We freed them from a dictator and helped them establish a diplomatic government – as corrupt as it may be –. So, mission accomplished?
We need to keep our hands the hell out of the middle east from here on in as well. Keep up the good work finding terrorists, but as for invading other countries, over throwing governments; we need to have learned our lesson.
Ann Coulter on this:
http://www.netscape.com/viewstory/2007/06/06/ann-coulter-bushs-america-is-a-roach-motel/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.humanevents.com%2Farticle.php%3Fid%3D21029&frame=true
Ben,
I tried, I really tried, to read the whole thing. Coulter is finally losing it to the point of incoherence.
After years of being told by the right wing noise machine that disagreeing with Bush was the same as hating America it is funny to see the “base” of conservatives being accused of the same thing for daring to disagree with King George.
Why do the conservatives hate America?
It is also interesting that Rush O’Hannity and the remainder of the right wing talk radio hate brigade have decided that being a paid shill for the Bush Admin is no longer a good career move and they have decided to abandon the sinking ship of the GOP and conservative politics.
“abandon the sinking ship of the GOP and conservative politics” –
Yea, maybe… but it sounds like they are now leaning toward being even MORE right wing, and MORE conservative, if thats possible… I am waiting for some goon death squad to start shooting illegals coming across the border… based on their own idea of national security… and then watch them yell when the goonies get prison terms for murder!! LOL
Your death squad scenario has already happened. Two Border Patrol agents named Compean and Ramos shot an unarmed man in the back as we was fleeing from them back into Mexico. They were convicted by a jury of their peers and both are now serving lengthy prison sentences. The right wingers have been screaming for months that the conviction was unfair, that Bush should pardon them and that they are both heroes for shooting a defenseless Mexican in the back.
I would love to see the hardcore 28 percenters that still support the GOP and call themselves conservatives to move even farther to the right, that will ensure a complete lack of any moderate or independent voter support and mean that them and their politics of hate and fear can be safely contained within the confines of a permanent minority party.
“shot an unarmed man in the back”
Scott,And what was this innocent illegal alien doing? Transporting a van load of drugs across the border. Let’s see how you react when you pull over an illegal immigrant with a van load of drugs. Remember, the guy was running drugs, not ice cream.
And he was shot in the butt, not his back. Some leeching Texas lawyer went across the border, and drug this guy back. Think she wasn’t out to make a name for herself.
So your border blood bath is a little over hyped. Do you have kids? If so I sure hope they benefited from the drugs he was carrying over.
When did it become okay for law enforcement to start shooting at unarmed, fleeing suspects? Especially suspects who aren’t suspected of committing violence?
Yup Tom, you know illegal alien drug runners have proven to be some of the FRIENDLIEST folks you ever want to meet. C’mon Tom, you can’t see the inherent danger in a stop like that?
Facts re the case,http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/txw/press_releases/2007/compean_ramos_suttonstatement_1_17_07.pdf“Agents Compean and Ramos were prosecuted by my office because they committed a number of serious crimes.”
They had not even looked in the van and discovered the drugs before they shot him. At the time of the shooting, the only thing the victim was guilty of was being brown and near the border.
What happened to due process, the Bill of Rights and the rule of law? Right wingers must get bored and quit reading after the 2nd Amendment. The agents had no reason or authority to use deadly force on a person that had no weapon and was running away.
However, I think we may have found a new right wing slogan.
“Murder – It’s for the children”
They had not even looked in the van and discovered the drugs before they shot him. At the time of the shooting, the only thing the victim was guilty of was being brown and near the border.
What happened to due process, the Bill of Rights and the rule of law? Right wingers must get bored and quit reading after the 2nd Amendment. The agents had no reason or authority to use deadly force on a person that had no weapon and was running away.
However, I think we may have found a new right wing slogan.
“Murder – It’s for the children”
If they had been white and crossing the NORTHERN border, the case would have had a much different outcome.
I dont think any of us can really know the circumstances of that unfortunate case on the border… About all we know, is that two illegals were apprehended… one was shot in the butt/back, and the border guards are in prison for the crime… IF we could see the actual investigation reports, and trial transcripts, perhaps nobody would be upset over the prison sentences…
Please note, i said PERHAPS
On September 27, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) announced that the DREAM Act would not be considered as an amendment to H.R. 1585, the Defense Department authorization bill for fiscal year 2008.
The Washington Times reports, however, that Reid will push for passage of the DREAM Act, which would grant amnesty to millions of illegal aliens, by different means (possibly in its stand-alone form [S. 774, sponsored by Assistant Majority Leader Dick Durbin {D-Ill.}]) before the Senate adjourns for the year (i.e., on or about November 16).
Reid’s concession on the DoD authorization bill may doom other immigration-related amendments to the defense bill as well.
Please fax your senators: We have stopped the DREAM Act for now, but there is already a push to pass it as a stand-alone bill.
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