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Legal faux paux by Attorney General’s Office?
Charges against police chief dismissedhttp://www.kansas.com/213/story/88639.html
“The bottom line is, we sat back and waited based on the fact that there were three different assistant attorneys general in this case, plus a number of judges,” he said.”…The state still has the burden of bringing the defendant to trial within 180 days. It’s incumbent on the state to seek a new judge or move the date up.”
What would the press have done if Kline had done this? Isn’t the press being kind to AG Paul Morrison in this case when there would have been bloodletting if Kline did this?
Ah, but meadow you are overlooking the fact that Morrison is the darling of the press. They will not attack one of their own.
“Well-behaved women seldom make history.” What would it be like if the USA government were dominated by women? We know what men can do or not.
Would Rosie the Riveter be an example of how women can do anything a man can do…maybe better?
And today is the anniversary of what important event in history?
Hope the press doesn’t forget June 6 like they have September 11.
“Hope the press doesn’t forget June 6 like they have September 11”
First off I doubt they will not at least mention D day, though I do doubt they will mention Turk Lagoon. Where the U.S. caught I good deal of the Japanese Navy at anchor.
But my question to you is, does not the TV, Radio and News paper to the cave you obviously live in not come through? Forget September 11? How in the world would you have that idea? Try finding it not having it mentioned on any channel on September 11!
Writerdog, Presidential Candidate Edwards denies that there IS a war on terror today. Those who want to retreat from the face of our enemy or deny that there is an enemy HAVE forgotten 9/11.
“War on terror” IMHO is a too vague, and too broad. One needs to narrow it down to “War on terrorism”. This war cannot be fought by focusing the military might, but more on the eliminating the “excuses” for violent radicalism, be it poverty or political oppression. It’s about freedom to be human, to have dignity, to have hope.
I think this tells it all about war.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZgHH72G8wQ&eurl
Did anyone remember yesterday marked the end of the 6 day war?
How does one declare war on a tactic? Edwards is correct: the “War on Terror” expression is nothing more than a bumper-sticker slogan.
6/6/44 – Founding of YMCA?
6/6/32 – First US gas tax?6/6/68 – RFK assasinated?6/6/69 – Birth of Internet?6/6/82 – Invasion of Southern Lebanon?
6/6/05 – Gonzalez v. Raich on medical MJ?
Sol,I thought Six-Day War was on 5th June to 10th June 1967.
Roo,Score one – Marked the BEGINING of the six day war.
The media has already mentioned D Day. So all the media haters can stop with their crying.
The slogan “War on terror” is silly. You can declare war on a tactic. One obvious insult to the intelligence of the American people is the stupid slogans…”War on Terror”, “cut and run”, and my personal fave….”islamifacism”. What we need are leaders, not HallMark Card writers.
Nothing on the Repubic candidates’ debate last night?
Guess that shows just how irrelevant the GOP has become.
Rudy hopes Republics will ignore his three marriages, his pro-choice stance, and cross-dressing. (And, judging from the enthusiasm on this forum, they’re trying hard to do just that.) Mitt Romney’s looks as plastic (and just as masculine) as a Ken Doll. John McCain gives GOP primary voters some “straight talk” — totally insulting right wingnuts — by admitting that Hispanics might just be people, too.
And just about every candidate is eager to fling nuclear weapons at just about anybody that might make them cranky.
But ya gotta love Kansas’ own Sam the Sham.
Brownback, during the audience Q&A portion of the debate, to a woman whose younger brother died in Iraq eight days before he was due to rotate home:
“Thank you for your family’s service, and what your brother did, that’s incredible, an incredible gift that he and your family have given us.”
Uhm no. This man’s death was not an “incredible gift,” it was a tragic loss to his family. An appropriate response would be a bit empathetic; something like, “I’m sorry for your loss.” But to say that would be to acknowledge that there’s something to be sorry about when someone dies in Iraq. No one on that stage in New Hampshire will acknowledge that.
So the deaths of our troops are now “incredible gifts.” And every day is Christmas!
IHG, not hardly the war in Iraq had nothing to do with the war on Terrorism, if anything it detracted FROM the war on Terrorism. It may have even aided the terrorists, no one is calling for the leaving of Afghanistan. Which had everything to do with fighting the terrorists, Al-Qaeda is far stronger and closer to the fight in Afghanistan then it ever was in Iraq. You are confusing the two when you say those wanting a redeployment in Iraq are forgetting 9-11. if anything what is happening with the Sunni tribe-men in their taking a stand against Al-Qaeda there shows that the statement that if we were to pull our troops out is a scare tactic. The Iraqis may be concerned that our presents there may mean we wish to control their country. But they know that Al-Qaeda would want to subjugate them, forcing them to give up their way of life and lose any progress they now enjoy.
The point that Edwards was making is a valid point, the American people by and large are not at war. The number one killer of our troops is IED and there is a lot of foot dragging in the deployment of safer vehicles to our troops. When we are fighting a enemy that uses our weaknesses against us and our boarder are so open. What is the leading concern expressed by our leader? Why how securing our boarders would effect the pool of cheap labor! The effect it would have on business and how it would raise the cost of production.Not protecting American life and land, again not at war as we should be.
OK LTP here is something on the debate last night, after it was over CSPAN had call in for Republicans only. Many of the callers said that of all of the candidates Ron Paul stood out as a great candidate and would get their vote. Even some Democrats have said they like him over their own candidates, he maybe the one whom draws from both sides and with the main body of Moderates.
“What we need are leaders, not HallMark Card writers.”
I’m with you.It takes a village.Mend it, don’t end it.Don’t ask, don’t tell.Vast right wing conspiracy.Politics of personal destruction.
“So the deaths of our troops are now “incredible gifts.” And every day is Christmas!” LTP,FTL
Fleet, you can this phrase. Google it.
Did anybody catch McCain’s great Boo Boo??? Mentioning that the so-called Ft. Dix Six came in through the Southern Borders??? LOL THIS man wants to be President??? and he doesnt even know that the Ft. Dix Six were all raised HERE in the good ‘ol USA???
This is laughable!!
And Romney is a HUGE flip flop artist… And Huckabee doesnt even know that it’s the anniversry of Ronald Reagan’s DEATH, not his BIRTH!!! Geez…. These guys want to be President??? Did BUSHisms rub off on ALL of them??
There was more rhetoric last nite, in ONE nite about nuclear arms usage, than there has been since Reagan was elected the FIRST time!!
These GOP guys are ALL scary!!!
Be afraid… Be very afraid!!!
Yea, WD I agree… Ron Paul is the ONLY one who makes any sense of the GOP Candidates… And that too is scary!! Be very afraid!!
Chas., I’m sure that you can qoute the birthdays, anniverseries, death days, mother’s maiden names of all the presidents! Because that’s how fair you are in your evaluations of canidates!
Let’s play the same game with you…
Chas doesn’t know how many exclamation points to use at the end of a sentence???? He doesn’t know how to spell anniversery?????!!!!!!!!!!!
This is laughable!!!!!!
He attacks any republican for any tiny little mistake he can find instead of honestly evaluating thier stances on issues????
Hey, I never claimed to be a good typist!!!
“”So the deaths of our troops are now “incredible gifts.””
I pretty sure he was talking about the gift of his service to his country, not his death. It was poorly phrased.
You seemed to have missed the point. Nitpicking dumb things like not knowing reagan’s birthday, ect. Makes no difference whether a canidate knows that or not.
Nah, Fleet. Republicans/conservatives LOVE killing kids. Especially the unborn. Yummy.
Dripping sarcasim….
Ummm stalker… It DOES make a difference if you reference it in one of your comments in a debate!! Other than that, NO it doesnt make a difference at all…
Same thing with knowing where the alleged terrorists came from… McCain claimed they came from across the Southern borders… He was making a point about national security… HE WAS WRONG…
Sorry, that is NOT nit picking!!
Yeah Chas, don’t you hate it when McCain quotes facts about something?
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2007/05/fort_dix_six_sh.html
“The brothers entered the United States near Brownsville, Texas, in 1984, the source said, which would put their ages at 1 to 6 when they crossed the border.”
They were in the United States Illegally. Cherry Hill New Jersey appears to be yet another Sanctuary City as the six had accumulated 75 unpaid traffic violations.http://www.newt.org/backpage.asp?art=4451
Repub… As I understand it, they were ALL SIX here legally… for many years now…
Better go check your fabulous sources again!!!
And NONE of them were Mexicans either!!
Hey, chas–Are they have a sale at the!!! store? No plaque for you!!!!
Repub — Your “source” also claims that these brothers are proof that terrorists come in through the southern borders… Like, I am sure they were terrorists at ages 1 – 6?? And your source says they only had accumulated 19 traffic tickets… Not exactly a whole lot of traffic tickets to go on… they might have been parking tickets for all we know.. Again, I suggest you check your sources a bit closer.. You holler about others citing Op-Ed pieces… This thing you cite here isnt even Op-Ed… maybe Blogger-Ed… LOL
Repub — Newt’s posting is much clearer… It is totally clear, and a gross miscarriage of justice that any one of these three brothers were even on the streets, given all of those violations… My daughter lost her license for not having insurance, and spent 4 weekends in jail once… and that was for ONE violation, and the vehicle wasnt even hers! LOL This is definitely a travesty… somebody in Cherry Hill, NJ needs to lose a job, or worse!
I gave my sources Chas, where is yours? Or are you making stuff up again?
It really scares me that every now and then, Newt says or writes something I strongly agree with.. However, I would be quick to point out to Newt, that the Simpson/Mazzoli Bill, of 1986 was passed on REAGAN’S watch… with a Republican controlled Congress… not under Democrat leadership… And I know I was personally against that particular Bill when it passed in 1986!
And it certainly was NOT Clinton’s fault that Simpson/Mazzoli passed!
Nobody here seems to be getting to the heart of the debate.
A few quotes pulled from the AP article that you might want to discuss.
(Regarding President Bush)
1. “I would certainly not send him to the United Nations” to represent the United States, said Tommy Thompson, the former Wisconsin governor and one-time member of Bush’s Cabinet, midway through a spirited campaign debate.
2. Arizona Sen. John McCain (news, bio, voting record) criticized the administration for its handling of the Iraq War, and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney said, “I think we were underprepared and underplanned for what came after we knocked down Saddam Hussein.”
3. Rep. Duncan Hunter (news, bio, voting record) of California said the current administration “has the slows” when it comes to building a security fence along the border with Mexico.
4. Rep. Tom Tancredo of Colorado recalled that White House aide Karl Rove had once told him “never darken the door of the White House.” The congressman said he’d tell George W. Bush the same thing.
5. Fred Thompson, appearing on Fox News after the debate, said he had watched part of the give-and-take among his potential rivals. “They did all right from what I saw,” he said.
Comments? Or does everyone agree with the above statements?
There’s more in the article, if the above doesn’t suit you. I’m sure you can find something. The Clintons were mentioned. Will that work for you?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070606/ap_on_el_pr/republicans_debate_46;_ylt=AgM5.wiLvLPHSYFHnQOn9OEL1vAI
or
http://tinyurl.com/2znzf6
“Did anybody catch McCain’s great Boo Boo??? Mentioning that the so-called Ft. Dix Six came in through the Southern Borders??? LOL THIS man wants to be President???”Posted by: Chas. | June 06, 2007 at 08:29 AM
I was letting you off easy Charles by just pointing out that McCain used facts. You respond by tap dancing your way out your bogus error assignments on McCain.
Admit it Chas, you screwed up in your assessment on McCain and doing the typical “denial, that all Libs do, you avoid take your faults like a big man.
Are you feeling your inner monkey this morning Chas?
Ummm I did NOT make an error on my assessment of McCain… McCain claimed that ALL SIX of those alleged terrorists came through the southern borders… And that is NOT true… He could have made a solid case just using the three that apparently did come through there when they were VERY young children… But, at ages 1 – 6, I dont know how strong of a case he could have made even just staying with those three…
So, go check it out Repub… McCain said ALL of them came through the Southern Border… I heard it in the debate… I knew then he blew it… That is why I wouldnt trust McCain as President.
Chas–
Just because ReplagiarCon occasionally says something worth responding to is no reason to encourage him by responding.
He’s already nic-switching. See Tiny Tim . . . or Tiny Dick as I prefer to call his latest personality.
Walk . . . on . . . by . . .
Why do you want comments RB? The decision to vote is an individual choice.
Besides, aren’t you a Liberal Democrat? Why should you care?
My, my, how we ignore the story of Paul Morrison’s incompetence. I’m betting none of The Eagle’s all left, all the time editorial board will put up a blog entry on it.
I thought Paulie was supposed to e such a great prosecutor.
But Capn — We need to maintain some sense of accuracy on here.. Otherewise, people will think worse of us Kansans than they already do!! LOL
I swear, someday, some reich winger somewhere is going to try and blame Bill Clinton for the Battle of Vicksburg! It really gets OLD to see such attempts at side stepping issues.
Remember when Bush claimed that if the Iraqi government asked us to leave, we would leave?
Remember that?
Well, they’re asking us to leave.
Check it out–
******
Exclusive: Iraqi Lawmakers Pass Resolution That May Force End to Occupation
By Raed Jarrar and Joshua Holland, AlterNet. Posted June 5, 2007.
The parliament today passed a binding resolution that will guarantee lawmakers an opportunity to block the extension of the U.N. mandate under which coalition troops now remain in Iraq when it comes up for renewal in December. Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, whose cabinet is dominated by Iraqi separatists, may veto the measure.
The law requires the parliament’s approval of any future extensions of the mandate, which have previously been made by Iraq’s prime minister. It is an enormous development; lawmakers reached in Baghdad today said that they do in fact plan on blocking the extension of the coalition’s mandate when it comes up for renewal six months from now.
Reached today by phone in Baghdad, Nassar al Rubaie, the head of Al-Sadr bloc in Iraq’s Council of Representatives, said, “This new binding resolution will prevent the government from renewing the U.N. mandate without the parliament’s permission. They’ll need to come back to us by the end of the year, and we will definitely refuse to extend the U.N. mandate without conditions.” Rubaie added: “There will be no such a thing as a blank check for renewing the U.N. mandate anymore, any renewal will be attached to a timetable for a complete withdrawal.”
http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/53230/
ChasDon’t you understand? Republican is a man of faith….faith does not require fact or logic. And his party is guilty of using scare tactics for political gain. McCain’s story wouldn’t have been as good if only 3 plotters came through Mexico. And it definitely would have lost some “scare value” if he admitted that they came here at 1-6 yrs of age. The GOP is a bunch of paranoid bible thumpers, that think they can deliver the second coming of Christ.
Again, the followers of the GOP doctrine are people of faith…..meaning they are told what to believe, and require no facts or logic to base their belief on. Just listen to how they repeat the motto of the day. Whether thats “cut and run”, or “defeatist” or calling you a “surrender monkey”. They are not creative enough to develop their own opinion. Just walk the line.
6/6/77 – date of my separation from active duty in the USAF.
A thirty year anniversary, VT! Congrats!
Congrats and thank you for your service VT. You are a good American!
June, 1977 — My first year anniversary after Seminary Graduation. BTW, Congrats VT!
What McCain actually said Chas:
“People came to Fort Dix, New Jersey, from across our southern border and tried to kill our soldiers. For us to do nothing is silent and de facto amnesty.”========================You said, “Ummm I did NOT make an error on my assessment of McCain… McCain claimed that ALL SIX of those alleged terrorists came through the southern borders..”Posted by: Chas. | June 06, 2007 at 09:26 AM
and, you also said: “Did anybody catch McCain’s great Boo Boo??? Mentioning that the so-called Ft. Dix Six came in through the Southern Borders??? LOL THIS man wants to be President???”Posted by: Chas. | June 06, 2007 at 08:29 AM
So, what is it Chas, is your memory faulty and your excuses shallow?
Sixty-three years ago today, one of my favorite Uncles landed at Normandy Beach. May he rest in Peace.
I know Capn — Walk.. on.. by
I watched the debate last night and was not impressed with anyone except Ron Paul. He seems to be the only one with any original thought. It has to be a bit scary for the Republican front runners that Dr. Paul polls so well.
I did find myself wondering how these candidates plan to appeal to the voters during a general election. Most responded to questions like they were Bush III or a wannabe Second Coming of Ronald Reagan.
With most of them, Rudy McRomney in particular, you could almost see the gears turning while they labored to get in the Reagan references and the tougher-than-thou rhetoric.
That may play to the Twenty-Eight, but it is almost a guarantee of a loss in November ‘08.
Sorry Capn, I cannot take credit for Tiny Tim or TT, although it was a masterful piece of satirical eye gouging.
“I swear, someday, some reich winger somewhere is going to try and blame Bill Clinton for the Battle of Vicksburg! It really gets OLD to see such attempts at side stepping issues.”Posted by: Chas. | June 06, 2007 at 09:33 AM
Hey Chas, your WSClark is showing by using “Reich wing.”
A Preacher? I don’t think so. Maybe an alcoholic who thinks he’s a preacher…you even get issues on the Bible wrong? What faith are you, Muslim Apologist?
LMAO! Chas now uses the “walk on by” excuse when he’s caught in a lie.
Typical.
You know, Clark, Ron Paul COULD be a hard nut to crack in 2008 for the Democrats. He doesnt have a lot of skeletons in his closet, and he seems to have a long record of consistency on his positions.
Well, I guess he might have one of those DR. kind of skeletons, maybe.
OK Capn now he’s getting extremely personal here… You want me to keep walking on by now??
Go after every other media outlet, including FOX, that has reported McCain’s goof up, and call them what you call me. And knock off with the PERSONAL attacks, got it?
Why Chas? You are one of the most hateful, biased un-repenting person that has recently showed up on the blog.
To call your self a man of God is pure blasphemy.
I think there are ways to stop your kind of SMEAR tactics… and when I find out what they are, you will be stopped… at least warned.
Walk on by Chas…….just keep walking
Chas, don’t take the bait, just walk on by……………
It’s just not worth it.
I’m not taking any bait… He wont know what hit him when it does hit him… That doesnt take any kind of bait…
Yeah Chas, walk on by, be a good little Lock-Step Liberal.
Walk on by Chas and ignore that you got caught in a lie about McCain.
If you were knowing your Bible Chas, you would know about “turning the other cheek.”
But I guess that phrase to you means, the cheeks that are a little lower on the anatomy.
Oh look Chas is threatening me now. How unbecoming for a (cough) Preacher.
“In a ruling filed Monday, Judge William F. Lyle Jr. said that the state had let more than 180 days pass since Vaughan was arraigned Aug. 15.”
KsM – looks like a lot of the delay was caused by Morrison’s predecessor. Hard to say what else happened; even the judge acknowledged that he shared fault.
RepublicanYou are showing your third grade playground bullying mentality. Why don’t you grow up? The rinformation that Chas sighted was reported widely. But you want to bring the conversation to extremely personal attacks. Maybe we should remind you of the mistruths and rumors that you have spread here. Why don’t you do us all a favor and try to be civil?
Actually Mike, Chas has two lies for which he needs to repent his sins. By omission of his guilty statement that six crossed the border, Chas refuses to see HIS errors.
“The brothers entered the United States near Brownsville, Texas, in 1984, the source said, which would put their ages at 1 to 6 when they crossed the border.”
The brothers referring to the Duka brothers, not all six.
But I guess that’s what happens when you walk in Lock-Step with Libs, you start believing your own lies like Chas has repeated twice.
Chas–
That’s Republican’s stock-in-trade.
He annoys people until they respond to him and then he’s in his element–a FLAME WAR.
That’s why he’s on here 16 hours a day, looking for the latest contestant who’ll play his insult game.
It’s his idea of a good time.
Don’t give it to him.
Nothing more annoying than the Capn, who refuses to answer straight forward questions put to him by GMC and others. Capn’s hypocrisy is that he posts in the morning, in the afternoon, in the evening, late evening and after midnight.
Capn enjoys quoting communistic sources such as the DailyKos and Comsky. A pure Liberal who has Communist Socialism flowing through his veins.
Capn can’t help himself, he’s been an admirer of Lenin since a young boy.
Mike–
See above and thanks.
The WEBlog has already become a much more interesting place since most of us have stopped responding to ReplagiarCon’s taunts.
ReplagiarCon cannot be rehabilitated–he is what he is.
The only thing we have control of is whether we give him what he wants–a response–or not.
Your co-operation to make the WEBlog a better place is essential.
Thank you.
Comsky=Chomsky
Chas, you DON’T actually have to do a Dione Warwick impersonation when you “Walk On By” but if it helps, go for it…….
Before too long, Republank will be making up new nic for himself so that he can debate both sides.
Just remember, walk on by…….
Oh please…
If this were the typical Abortion or Evolution thread all of you would have no problem with rolling out the insults and name calling.
Yes, Mike…you mean like that line you used awhile back of being a six foot four Black man and threatening me? That kind of third grade mentality?
Yup, too true, Nathan.
I plead guilty as charged.
The difference is that I don’t come on here ONLY to insult people.
But you have a point. More civility wouldn’t hurt.
And Nathan NEVER insults, right?
Gotcha Clark!! So, its the Dione Warwick “Walk on By” and not the LeRoy Van Dyke’s version?Thanks!! Now Capn’s Dah’s and Dit’s make more sense in their rhythm… LOL
Jeez, I remember it a bit differently – I seem to recall that an unnamed poster threatened XXX with a slapdown.
Hmmmmmm………. Then, when his offer was accepted, the unnamed poster backed down.
All the more reason to walk on by………
Capn is the leader of the libs. He tells who they can debate with.
“AlterNet, a project of the non-profit Independent Media Institute, is a progressive news website…”
I swear, you people get your marching orders from many different places. We only get ours from Rush O’Hannity.You dopes.
Oh yeah, I throw around the occasional Dupe or you are illogical name.
I don’t go as far as saying something like:
You are a disgrace, I am ashamed someone like you represents our country in the military…
Not hardly WSClark, the “slapping around” comment was verbal not physical. People with limited cognitive ability like the thick-skulled XXX thought I was challenging him to a fight. I even explained what I meant.
Besides, I told XXX to set the date to meet of lunch/dinner, as my schedule was more flexible than his.
Guess what, he never did.
But I expected nothing less from a history revisionist like yourself WSClark.
Get the facts wrong, get the concepts wrong and get the objectives wrong on just about everything.
When in doubt, make things up, right WSClark?
clark is a revisionist monkey, damn it.signed, the swear monkey
The police chief was charged with a misdemeanor, get over it! Let he who has never had a ticket fixed, cast the first stone.
hehehehehehehehehehehehehe
Jesus wept.
I haven’t been irritated in a while.
hehehehehehehehehe
We only get ours from Rush O’Hannity.Posted by: fleettwood | June 06, 2007 at 10:31 AM
LMFGAO
Thanks for the laugh, Fleettwood.
Nope, am not bent out of shape about Morrison. Because I know he’s probably cleaning up Kline’s backlog that got put off while he was chasing around Tiller.
Not happy about it, if it happens again, then there will be a problem.
PS, thank you Phillip B.
well, stalker can’t spell “anniversery” EITHER! It’s ANNIVERSARY…
People in glass houses
BREAKING NEWS: TURKISH TROOPS ENTER IRAQ.This war is so over……and our leaders are just to stupid to admit it.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070606/ap_on_re_mi_ea/turkey_iraq
Read it and weep 28%er’s. I guess engaging the neighbors of Iraq was a little more important than Rummy thought.
XXX had a motorcycle accident yesterday. From what I can gather, he was going around a corner, hit a sand patch and dumped it. He has a broken arm, along with the usual road rashes.
I’m going to stop by and see how he’s doing after work today.
His wife was on the bike and suffered some road rash, but other than that is okay. She lifted the bike off him; quite a feat for as small as she is. Quite a woman.
Give xxx my regards. Glad he suffered “only” a broken arm and some road rash, but I hope he heals quickly and well.
Give my best to XXX, J M. After all is confirmed well with him and the Mrs., ask about the condition of the motorcycle.
Before the screaming starts, it’s an old joke among riders……
XXX: Speedy recovery man!
——http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=070606062208.yii0bwst&show_article=1
Mohammad will be the most popular boys name in Britain next year. This is not good news.
Sorry to hear that XXX and wife were injured in a motorcycle accident. Speedy recovery and may there be full healing.
Since Mike decided to post on two different threads about the great Turkish invasion of Iraq, I’ll post my answer twice, so he may get a clue and not post rubbish.
===================”Really Mike? You are familiar that Turks crossing the border to invade Kurd Bases is not a new thing?
And Yet you describe it as an invasion of Iraq from Turkey? Suggesting we have something to fear from a NATO ally?
Oh, sorry for confusing you with facts Mike. My bad.”
Posted by: Republican | June 06, 2007 at 12:04 PM
You owe your freedom in large part to the Battle of Midway, that took place 65 years ago on June 5, near a tiny Pacific atoll northwest of Hawaii. There the U.S. Navy thwarted the Japanese plans to invade Hawaii, ambushing andoverwhelming Japanese forces during the three-day battle, putting them on the defensive for the rest of the war. The USofA lost 307 men and 145 planes. The Japanese fleet lost 4800 men, 291 planes, 4 carriers, 1 heavycruiser, and 3 destroyers, and never recovered from the defeat.About 1800 people gathered Monday at Midway, as others gathered elsewhere to remember the sacrifice and the victory,and the vigilance of those who remain free, and value their freedom by its price.
JM Walker- Please give my best to Mike and Mrs Mike and heal Godspeed!
Gary
JM Walker,
Wow, sorry to hear about XXX and Wife.
I will pray for a speedy recovery.
I am praying, too. Furiously.
There is only one thing more painful thanlearning from experience and thatis not learning from experience.
– Archibald MacLeish
JM Walker,
Let us know if we can help in any way. Let him and his bride know we have them in our prayers.
Clark,
Being a former bike owner, my second thought was the condition of the bike! My third thought was, did he break his right (gun hand) arm!
Hank
On Kervorkian:
The truth of the matter is that doctors everyday write prescriptions that will make dying people more comfortable AND hasten their death.
We have “do not resecitate orders” combined with morphine drips that use enough morphine to ‘kill a horse’. Death comes via the administered drug but we pretend that it’s natural.
Dr. Kervorkian did what doctors all over the US do only he did it openly with the patient’s consent.
My father had no choice. He was dying and the most humane (and convenient) thing to do was for the family to allow hospice to administer the morphine drip and watch him die.
“Archibald MacLeish”
Isn’t that Cary Grant?
“…hit a sand patch and dumped it.”
Ouch! Send my best to XXX and Mrs. XXX.
Ben, if you’re out there, the above is my biggest reason for not riding. But thanks for the offer, anyway. :)
XXX and the Mrs. Get well soon!
I’ve seen trikes, three wheels, special made custom made motorcycles.
If carrying a passenger it should be something like that or a full dresser Electric Glide type.
Vehicles crash, but motorcycles with passengers, lack of helmets possibly are more dangerous.
Rice rocket with passengers, don’t even think that’s safe.
So many on bikes now with t-shirts and shorts. Flip flop shoes. Complete disregard for the tip over or slide.
His and her bikes in the future.
One friend, a wife, had to do that because she was unwilling to ride on back of her husband’s bike.
Tandem riding is a little better, giving two bikes nearly same value as one car on the road. People can see two bikes better than one.
What two scientists think about Republank’s stupid press release(sic) here,http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/06/open_thread_3.html#comment-71627548
‘From the department of “you couldn’t make it up” ‘http://julesandjames.blogspot.com/2007/06/from-department-of-you-couldnt-make-it.html“If “jumping the shark” refers to the point at which a TV series loses all credibility, perhaps “quoting a Motl” could be analogous in the context of coverage of climate science issues.”
Cosmos now refers to someone’s opinion on a blog as his factual, peer-reviewed evidence. How sad.
LSLSM :D
Republank,
Are you going to take Annan’s $10,000 climate bet, that Lindzen refused?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Annan
Japan Agency for Marine-Earth Science and Technologyhttp://www.jamstec.go.jp/e/index.html
“hit a sand patch and dumped it.”
Ouch! Send my best to XXX and Mrs. XXX.”
Uhhuh! See what’d I say last week!
Seriously, I hope they’re both ok.
I hope Kevorkian becomes the person to lead legalized Physician assisted suicide everywhere.
I want this option if I”m in great pain. I want this option for my family members.
And yes, it does happen now.
cosmo has a weather fetish. The only thing that will get him going is global warming. If you see me standing next to cosmo at a cocktail party, please shoot me.We all know people like that.They know a few things about one thing and they will brain dump on you. Sad, really.
“…lead legalized Physician assisted suicide everywhere.”
As Seinfeld said, “What? Aren’t there any tall buildings where these people live?”
“If you see me standing next to cosmo at a cocktail party, please shoot me.”
Damn, can we arrange this?
Cosmos!!!! We need you!!!!
“James Annan is currently a physics teacher at Clayesmore School in the UK”
Oh that’s rich Cosmos, a High School Physics teacher.
And the other link Cosmos, just exactly what did you want me to read?
fap fap fapThey call him the fapper.
The Jaggerz, 1970
You don’t cross-check wiki?http://julesandjames.blogspot.com/2007/06/from-department-of-you-couldnt-make-it.html
james’ work pagehttp://www.jamstec.go.jp/frsgc/research/d5/jdannan/http://www.jamstec.go.jp/frcgc/research/d5/jdannan/betting.html
Why should I cross check an individual like James Annan in the context you presented him?
It’s unimportant to me as the Kyoto signatories will be reduced in 2012.
My work is nearly complete and you Cosmos and your fellow Alarmist will have to seek new topics or new jobs or both.
Walk on by…
They know a few things about one thing and they will brain dump on you. Sad, really.
The author of Republank’s post,http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/06/open_thread_3.html#comment-71627548
‘FACTSHEET: Robert (Bob) Ferguson’http://www.exxonsecrets.org/html/personfactsheet.php?id=1310“Ferguson set up the Center for Science and Public Policy in early 2003, after a $100,000 grant from ExxonMobil in 2002 – specifically tagged for the center.”
‘FACTSHEET: Frontiers of Freedom Institute and Foundation, FoF’http://www.exxonsecrets.org/html/orgfactsheet.php?id=35
Stopped by and saw XXX. He is one sore puppy, skinned like a cat. Yep, Hank, the shootin’ arm; go figure.
They were rounding a curve going at about 15 mph, hit a sand patch and down it went.
Says the wifey is taking good care of him. She’s pretty road-rashed herself. Good thing she landed on top of him. She would have really been messed up.
The bile’s gas tank is pretty well smashed on one side, but XXX is not sure about the rest. Supposed to be moved to the repair shop today or tomorrow. He thinks he’ll be back at work Monday. I’m saying a week.
Thanks all for the kind words. He do appreciate it.
Thanks for the report! Sounds like they’ll recover to ride another day!
I’ve been pretty lucky, wrecked every bike I’ve ever owned, once or twice. Few broken bones but no real road rash.
I’d still like to own one, but it would be scarey riding sober!
Hank
More of Cosmos (cough) peer-reviewed information. LMAO!
Back in the Eighties, I was riding my Electra Glide in the drizzlin’ rain in Northern Michigan.
(Sounds like the beginning of a country song, doesn’t it?)
I came upon a decreasing radius turn on a hill. The turn wasn’t too bad, but at the last moment, I saw the sand had washed down the hill into my lane.
(Now it sounds like a “Teen Angel” song from the Fifties.)
My choices were slim…
(I couldn’t stop, so I swerved to the right.)
Braking hard under the circumstances was out of the question. It was either sand or a blind trip into the oncoming lane.
(Tell Laura I love her!)
I took the longest fifty yard trip of my life, into a blind, downhill corner in the rain.
(Won’t come back from Deadman’s Curve!!!!)
I love riding but it has more than it’s fair share of hazards.
(Get your motor runnin! Head out on the highway!)
Be good, XXX!!!!!
Opps, sorry. NON-shootin’ arm.
PS . . . ws, don’t quit yer day job:-)
It’s corporate info,http://www.exxonmobil.com/corporate/Newsroom/Publications/Corp_P_AnnualReport2002.asp
Aw, shoot, J M, I thought I had a future as a writer of Country Music songs.
Dang.
Yeah Cosmos, more of your solid information.
Using old links again Cosmos?
Here’s what the page said:
“Sorry, the page you requested was not found.”
Was that our own Joe on the channel 12 news tonight?
That’s ok, I still disagree with him lol.
Thanks for the report! Sounds like they’ll recover to ride another day!
I’ve been pretty lucky, wrecked every bike I’ve ever owned, once or twice. Few broken bones but no real road rash.
I’d still like to own one, but it would be scarey riding sober!
Hank
Click here for a complete copy in PDF format (size 2.2MB).http://www.exxonmobil.com/corporate/files/corporate/ExxonMobilAR2002.pdf
Wow Cosmos you are on a path of self-destruction.
The link you provided:
“Sorry, the page you requested was not found”
Learn how to post URL’s properly or give it up.
Yep P-Mom! That was me! I was also on channel 10 as well.
Joe, you couldn’t have sucked up to our local government officials any better!
You trust them, you said. That’s sweet.
Republank (aka oxy-moron aka liar),
Whatever… I’m reading the PDF now.
You smell that? Do you smell that? ….
Naysayers, son!
Nothing else in the world smells like that.
….I love the smell of naysayers in the morning.
You know, one time we had a flurry of naysayers, for several weeks. When it was all over I walked up!
I didn’t find one of ‘em, not one stinkin’ naysayer.
The smell, you know that bitchy smell, the place didn’t smell like that anymore. Smelled like… Victory!
Someday this re-vote issue going to end.
And today it did! :)
Congratulations Joe! Glad you didn’t need to be at work today!
Joe, I only hope some day I don’t blog, “I told you so.”
That would mean all us naysayers were correct. Time will tell.
Ben,Joe is a three letter word; work is a four:-)
True JM; interesting that he fears an open hearing to air it all out. Oh yea, he wants a hearing – AFTER it is all over.
Sort of like the judge who says “Hang him, then have the trial!”
“Sort of like the judge who says “Hang him, then have the trial!”"
Kinda like the Bush administration?
I went to work straight after the Commissioners meeting.
I work more hours than any of you 9 to 5, punch a card, wait for Friday and get my check and then cuss the boss and job out over the weekend over a case of beer people.
Good Luck!
I wouldn’t know about that Joe! but since you say so and you are the font of all knowledge …
Meadow,
“Charges against police chief dismissedhttp://www.kansas.com/213/story/88639.html
What would the press have done if Kline had done ths? Isn’t the press being kind to AG Paul Morrison in this case when there would have been bloodletting if Kline did this?”
Aren’t we being a bit disingenuous with your thread.
Morrison had nothing to do with the delays, it was the judiciary that drug their feet, and caused the judge to dismiss the charges.
Sorry to hear about xxx, I’m happy he’s ok, but there’s another question that needs asked.Will he be able to let his fingers do the talking anytime soon?I will keep him in my prayers
Ouch! XXX! Hope you and wife recover fully.
Joe! I think you might see a job offer from Sedgwick COunty soon! You did that good!
Don’t forget this: REALITY has a liberal bias!
Hey all,Walker dropped by and told me he’d posted the accident on the open thread, so I dragged myself to the computer to check it out, lol!Thanks for all the well-wishes, I am truly touched by your concern. I Think it says a lot for us that we can drop our “shields” and wish a fallen blogger well without regard to political stripe.
Mrs XXX and I laid the bike down on the curves on the south edge of Furley, Ks. Tuesday evening. It was unfamiliar road and a bunch of short curves, so I was just idling through, maybe 12-15 mph. The back tire hit some sand on the pavement and the bike went down. I was pinned under the bike with Mrs XXX on top of me. Damnedest thing. Mrs XXX lifted a 600 pound motorcycle to get me free. She’s a very slender woman; not at all the type to lift a load like that.(Thank-you Jesus)
Mrs XXX is skinned up and very stiff and sore. I’ve got a broken arm (big bone, upper left arm) and lots of hide gone on the left forearm and left shin. My left leg took a bad crushing, but no breaks. My left foot is black and blue; the bike ground my shoe off. And I’ve got a nasty cut under the left eye.
We’re both pretty banged up, but nothing that won’t heal. We were very lucky. It could have been a lot worse. Mrs XXX and I are not in the habit of wearing helmets. That’s going to change.
The bike is scuffed up, but not all that bad. The gas tank is caved in and there’ll be a lot of crome replaced on the left side. I should know in a few days if it’s repairable or not.
Again, my heart-felt thanks for your good wishes; they’re much appreciated.
And Hank, did you forget? Considering what I shoot, both arms are my “shooting arm”, LOL!
Gas tanks are replaceable, bro! Thank God that you and the Mrs. are okay.
It’s like this XXX, the rubber side is down, the shiny side is supposed to be up.
Remember that!
Take care dude, heal well and get back on the road a soon as possible.
All the best!!!!
God, I am thankful that you and the lady are not hurt badly.
Get well XXX – glad the Mrs is OK too. Strength is amazing in situations like that; a very small person can do almost superhuman things. Glad you will be OK; like WSC said – dirty side down shiny side up!
Guys, I’d laugh, but that hurts, too.
http://www.hsegroup.com/hse/text/cowboy.htm
Hehe, xxx that link is for you.
PS, I’m glad you & the MRS are ok.
XXX,
Sorry to hear..sorry to be so late in seeing the post.
I’ve dumped a couple myself. You get to laugh the rest of your life about it…and that’s good!!
“XXX” –
I’m thankful you and the Mrs will recover from your foolishness of your not being “in the habit of wearing helmets.” I’m truly thankful that’s gonna change.
This is mostly a political blog, so I can’t promise my comments won’t turn political. But your not being “in the habit of wearing helmets” has been made a political issue in the past. Mostly by motorcycle-enthusiasts.
Hey, it’s not like us namby-pamby bleeding-heart liberals didn’t try to protect you from the habit of not wearing helmets; to protect you from your foolishness.
Thing is, I’m perfectly willing to pay tax dollars to finance highly-trained EMT’s and a state-of-the-art rolling Emergency Room ready to respond to some curves on the south edge of Furley, Ks. on a Tuesday evening, but that’s beginning to sound a lot like “Socialized Medicine.” At least the way the Republic Party candidates explain it.
I’m thankful your injuries were not more severe. But had (God forbid) your injuries had been more dibilitating, I’d be a bit more willing to know that my tax dollars were going to provide you with Social Security Disability benefits had you taken a modicum of responsibility for your hobby and worn a helmet.
My personal recreational fetish is driving small sports cars too fast on traffic-controlled courses. I have a roll-bar and wear a helmet when I race. I understand, to a degree, what you enjoy about motor-powered speed and freedom; it’s just, I wanna hear the crunch of metal around me before I die of it. Or become disabled.
I respect the macho jokes like “road rash” (which is, in fact, a major trauma to a major bodily organ). I’m relieved your major injury, “XXX,” is a broken bone; bones heal. I’m grateful to the Powers that Be to learn the bumps and bruises you and Mrs. “XXX” suffered will (realitively) soon become memories.
But next time you enter into a political discussion, try to remember how totally unexpected trauma can rise up and turn into life-changing events.
We liberals really don’t think the government should try to prevent such things; we merely believe a civilized society should be prepared for such things, and prudently apply tax dollars for such preparations.
We’re “Liberals,” see?
Hey XXX,
Glad to see you got your hunt-and-peckers working!
Yea, I remember your hand cannon! I also remember you firing it one handed!
Actually, shooting that .500 the first time was about the second scariest thing I did last year. Shooting it the second time was the scariest!
Give your wife our regards and ice the sore spots.
Hank
the wind is downright crazy out there!
Hey Eagle journalist, here’s a story tip, Why are the Spirit Exec’s dumping all (most of) their stock?http://finance.yahoo.com/q?d=t&s=SPR
Glad you managed to make it to the puter XXX and give us the report.
Careful with that road rash, you and the Mrs. don’t need any infections!
May I recommend the Fox News Channel for late night viewing, so you can be assured to fall asleep promptly and get the much needed healing rest. ;)
Long Time Poster, First Time Lurker, I can’t argue with anything you say. I think you’ve mistaken which side of the issues I’m on.
“But next time you enter into a political discussion, try to remember how totally unexpected trauma can rise up and turn into life-changing events.”
Been there and done that. I’ve seen up close and personal how poor uninsured people are treated and it’s a scandal. I think it’s a crime that in the richest most powerful country in the world, people have to do without proper medical treatment.
Yes, I’m one of the bikers who has advocated for personal choice when it comes to wearing a helmet. After seeing my life flash before my eyes, my “personal choice” will be to wear a helmet from now on. From this point, I’ll never argue again about the wisdom of wearing a helmet.
The Phantom,
Could it be they sold stock because it was an all time high since they took over and maybe realized that if it went higher the stock might split, therefore recovering their former portfolio?
Or is there more here than meets the eye?
I think it’s a national disgrace that the uninsured will be billed top dollar for their hospital care, while the insureds’ insurance company, and organizations like the VA, will be charged pennies on the dollar. Sounds like discriminatory pricing to me, and should be illegal.
Stock splits are normally financially advantageous to the share holders, as the split shares normally sell for more (when combined) than the pre-split share did. If it were just one or two insiders selling, it wouldn’t be too worrisome, but looks like just about all the top execs, cut their holdings. Don’t know, maybe a moritorium on having to hold their stock awards ended, but I would have expected that to have been disclosed.
Here is a man who posts with integrity and consistency:
“Not hardly WSClark, the “slapping around” comment was verbal not physical. People with limited cognitive ability like the thick-skulled XXX thought I was challenging him to a fight. I even explained what I meant.
“Besides, I told XXX to set the date to meet of lunch/dinner, as my schedule was more flexible than his.
“Guess what, he never did…”
Posted by: Republican | June 06,2007 at 10:35 AM
Then a little later:
“Sorry to hear that XXX and wife were injured in a motorcycle accident. Speedy recovery and may there be full healing.
“Posted by: Republican | June 06, 2007 at 12:07 PM”
Anyone need any more evidence about what a disingenous prick this mofo is? Thought not.
Good nite, all.
Because I know the difference between real life and this blog Steven Davis.
Evidently you can’t separate the two, which should be of grave concern to your mental health.
“Because I know the difference between real life and this blog Steven Davis.
“Evidently you can’t separate the two, which should be of grave concern to your mental health.”
Oh come on, anyone who has any awareness at all can see that you have no real life except this blog, you pathetic piece of feces.
I won’t stay up all night trading insults with the likes of you. Thanks anyway.
There is only one thing more painful thanlearning from experience and thatis not learning from experience.
You see Steven Davis, the reason you are angry at me all the time is you think this Blog is more real than your own life and you cannot separate the two.
Not my fault you cannot separate reality from word games or opinions that are different from yours.
XXX, if it was that gorgeous purple bike, I’m even more upset.
XXX,
Sorry to hear about the accident. Well, in the words of my wife’s native tongue, “Parane pian, kaverit!”
Terveisiä Suomesta.
RD, it was indeed the purple bike. Fortunately, I have specific insurance on the custom paint.
XXX- You’re right about changing your mind and going with the helmets. The last time I dumped my bike I had one on , wished for 2 or 3 more and a bunch of armor before I found the pavement. Road rash, etc., are a real bitch , but it sure feels good when it quits hurtin’!I hope your both heal quickly.
Gary
Welcome back XXX. Glad to see you are at least well enough to type. Best wishes on your and your wife’s recovery.
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