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The MSNBC link is already stale, but on Monday MSNBC had this article:
“The list: Journalists who wrote political checks and their explanations, from ‘Yikes!’ to ‘They’re all in somebody’s pocket’”By Bill Dedman. Investigative reporter, MSNBC, Updated: 4:21 p.m. CT June 25, 2007
From Google’s cache:http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:r3idEvqo3boJ:www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19113455/+Journalists+who+wrote+political+checks&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us
“(D) ABC affiliate in Wichita, Susan Peters, anchor, $600 to America Coming Together in two donations in 2004 and 2005. She anchors the news at 5, 6 and 10 p.m. America Coming Together funded get-out-the-vote drives to defeat President Bush in 2004.”
“Peters didn’t return calls.”
“KAKE news director David Grant said, ‘To be honest, I don’t have an answer for you. Can I get back to you?’ He didn’t call back.”
“(…the adjusted tally is 143 journalists: 125 giving to Democrats and liberal causes, 16 to Republicans, and two to both parties.)”
- – - – -Susan Peters, a Democrat, has made no known Kansas political contributions, but her husband, Rob Snyder, (http://www.kake.com/station/bios/news/12121.html ), an unaffiliated voter, gave $150 to Knight for Gov and $150 to Sebelius for Gov in 2002.
But I guess some will claim I’m “tainted” too, and can no longer report political money in Kansas .
So? Since when did Journalists lose their constitutional rights to support their candidates?
I’d say Journalists are more informed on a variety of issues than most people are. So that says a lot that they support Dems more now doesn’t it?
Tattling to the Journalist’s boss because you don’t like who they support? Come on now. Why do you think he should know who she supports, and wouldn’t that be a violation of her constitutional rights if he made her stop?
Journalist have constitutional rights and can give to candidates, parties, or groups like anyone else. But don’t they pretend on camera or in print they are fair and unbiased?
What about journalists like John G Montgomery from the Junction City Daily Union that contributes to the KDP, and was appointed to the Kansas Development Finance Authority by Gov. Sebelius? When his paper makes endorsements of political candidates, don’t the readers deserve to know about all his political money and biases?
Why shouldn’t endorsements by most papers be viewed as agenda driven, since there is usually not fair and balanced discussion of the issues or candidates?
The point of the MSNBC article was about the biases reporters have. If I felt the Kansas press reported most of the news in a fair and balanced way most of the time, I would go back to doing things I enjoy far more — without the abuse that comes with postings to the blogs about what is not being reported in the papers or on TV.
Meadowmuffin, You are such a crybaby! Peters donated $600?
Yawn….
239: Number of bills the House of Representatives has passed and sent to the Senate only to be held up, with conservatives “objecting to just about every major piece of legislation that [Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV)] has tried to bring up.”
No surprise there. Republicans, for six years, called the Democratic minority obstructionist when they didn’t like legislation. Now the Republican minority is using the exact same tactics against the Democratic majority.========================Well, we have lost this “War on Drugs”
Afghanistan produced dramatically more opium in 2006, increasing its yield by nearly 50 percent from a year earlier and pushing global opium production to a new record high, a U.N. report said Tuesday. … In 2006, Afghanistan accounted for 92 percent of global illicit opium production, up from 70 percent in 2000 and 52 percent a decade earlier.”
========================The difference between patriotism and nationalism is that the patriot is proud of his country for what it does, and the nationalist is proud of his country no matter what it does; the first attitude creates a feeling of responsibility, but the second a feeling of blind arrogance that leads to war. — Sidney J. Harris
“Now that we’ve taken care of Martha and Paris, Can we now go find Osama Bin Laden?”
…. David Letterman
Stop the presses! Peters donated $150 to the Governor 4 years ago?!? Well that’s it, she _must_ be in Sebelius’ pocket.
:::eyeroll:::
If we honestly expect all of our reporters to be completely unbiased and clean as the driven snow, well then we’re just begging to be lied to. Human beings are bound to have thoughts and opinions and why should we expect any less from our very human journalists? (except Bryant Gumble, I think he may be a robot) Having watched Peters many, many, many evenings, I would have pegged her a conservative, thanks for proving me wrong on that one Meadowlurk!
Hey, kids, guess what time it is?
That’s right. Time again, for the Bush Family Evil Empire (BFEE): Scandal Du Jour.
Today’s scandal comes from our main man, Jim Hightower, the Texan who saw Bush for what he was as a playboy son of a Senator and later Governor of the State.
http://jimhightower.com/node/6151
Turns out that GW has ignored reality even past his ability to do so and had to admit “climate change.”
His answer–schedule a world conference. In other words, “make a plan for a plan.”
Trouble is, he can’t even do that: satellites sent up to monitor “climate change” are getting put on hold because they are “too expensive.”
But as Hightower puts it, “Hello… they dump $12 billion into the hellhole of Iraq every two months! These are the people who airlifted $12 billion in cash to Iraq in 2003 – and it simply disappeared. But now that it’s money for something that America and the world actually need, they’ve suddenly turned into penny-pinchers, putting the overall climate program in serious jeopardy.”
And of course, “studying the problem” without really studying the problem is a way to do nothing while seeming to (sort of) do something.
Yup, Mr. Bush, it’s LYING. But we’ve gotten used to that . . .
This has been your BFEE: Scandal Du Jour.
Just got this e-mail–pretty funny, pretty true.
This is a strictly mathematical viewpoint.. it goes like this:
What Makes 100%? What does it mean to give MORE than 100%? Ever wonder about those people who say they are giving more than 100%? We have all been to those meetings where someone wants you to give over 100%. How about achieving 103%? What makes up 100% in life?
Here’s a little mathematical formula that might help you answer these questions:
If:A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z
is represented as:1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 1617 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26.
Then:
H-A-R-D-W-O-R-K8+1+18+4+23+15+18+11 = 98%
and
K-N-O-W-L-E-D-G-E11+14+15+23+12+5+4+7+5 = 96%
But,
A-T-T-I-T-U-D-E1+20+20+9+20+21+4+5 = 100%
And,B-U-L-L-S-H-I-T2+21+12+12+19+8+9+20 = 103%
AND, look how far ass kissing will take you.
A-S-S-K-I-S-S-I-N-G1+19+19+11+9+19+19+9+14+7 = 118%
So, one can conclude with mathematical certainty that While Hard work and Knowledge will get you close, and Attitude will get you there, it’s theBullshit and Ass kissing that will put you over the top.
“REMEMBER SOME PEOPLE ARE ALIVE SIMPLY BECAUSE IT IS ILLEGAL TO SHOOT THEM”
The result of the war in Afghanistan was to re-establish the produciton of opium. Remember when Bush paid the Taliban millions as a reward for suppression of the crop. Ah, what a complex world we live in.
“Johannesburg recorded its first confirmed snowfall for almost 26 years overnight as temperatures dropped below freezing in South Africa’s largest city, grounding flights at its main airport.”
Damned Global Warming!!
Cosmo faps in three … two …
Hmmmm, why are we so divided in this country?
The top 50% pay 96.60% of the taxes.http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-soi/04in07tr.xls
The working half is supporting the non-working half! The Dems claim to represent ½ and the Repubs claim to respresent the other. One side wants Socialism and the other doesn’t!And we all become slaves to the all-powerful all-controlling government.
No wonder so many are pissed-off!
Fleet — You cant keep on picking up little pieces of weather anomalies and shouting down Global Warming… PART of the idea of Global Warming, is, of course, screwed up weather patterns… BECAUSE of the warming cycle…
River Festival UP!
http://www.kansas.com/news/updates/story/107961.html#recent_comm
River Festival improves attendance, button salesThe Wichita River Festival drew an estimated 385,000 people this year — the largest attendance in the festival’s 36-year history, festival officials said today.
Button sales also were up, festival officials said. An estimated 135,000 were sold this year, up from 120,500 in 2006.
The festival was May 11 through 19.
June 26, 2007Will Bloomberg Swift-Boat Hillary?By Patrick Buchanan
The presidential candidacy of New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg is already a smashing success.
A mere change of registration from Republican to independent has garnered him a cornucopia of free and favorable publicity some candidates do not receive in a year of campaigning.
The mayor has replaced Fred Thompson as the most talked-about non-candidate since Mario Cuomo in 1992 and Colin Powell in 1996. Gov. Cuomo and Gen. Powell, after scouting the terrain, declined to engage. That may be good advice for the mayor. Enjoy and exploit the media frenzy you will create between now and decision day, but think long and hard before plunging in. For, after that, the fun stops, the risks of national humiliation rise, and you are fair game for hostile media and the opposition researchers.
While impossible to see how Mayor Bloomberg can win, even if he spent $2 billion, it is easy to see how he sinks Hillary Rodham Clinton. For the more popular he makes himself with his media buys, the more votes his candidacy attracts, the more certain it is that he does for the Democratic Party what Ross Perot did for the GOP in ‘92.
How so? First, the mayor is Jewish and is best-known and most loved among Jewish voters and denizens of the Big Apple, where he is more popular than Rudy. Both constituencies are Democratic.
Even in his 49-state triumph, Richard Nixon won only a third of the Jewish vote. In his 49-state landslide, Reagan carried even less. In 2006, by one survey, the Jewish vote went 88 percent Democratic. As for New York City, that has long been the Democrats’ key to New York State.
The first effect of a Bloomberg candidacy would be to siphon off perhaps 2 million votes from Hillary in New York, putting the state in play for the Republicans. The same would be true in New Jersey and Connecticut.
Second, though the mayor is being painted as a “post-partisan” problem-solver, he is a textbook nanny-state liberal, who has outlawed smoking in neighborhood bars, wages war on trans-fats, and is anti-gun, pro-gay rights and pro-abortion.
Had Bloomberg run in the Republicans primaries, his billions would not have bought him the nomination, which is why he left the party. Indeed, if he could buy the GOP nomination, the party would leave him.
At heart, Mike Bloomberg never really belonged to the GOP. It was a marriage of convenience he dumped at the first opportunity. And no blitz of media ads is going to convince this country he is other than what he is: a cookie-cutter New York social liberal.
Another reason it is unlikely a Bloomberg candidacy will carry a single state is that he is neither charismatic like John F. Kennedy nor a conviction candidate like Barry Goldwater, and he is certainly not the combination of the two that Ronald Reagan was.
On Iraq, securing the border and halting the export of American jobs, where does he stand? Anyone know? Does he?
In 1972, George McGovern won the Democratic nomination on a platform of “Come home, America!” In 1992, Ross Perot ran on the issue of a bloated federal government that could not control itself and was exporting our jobs to Mexico. What is the issue that is to propel Bloomberg into the national consciousness and the presidency?
There is none. Lacking charisma and a capacity to move people with words, lacking an issue other than “post-partisanship,” Bloomberg has one card to play — a fortune estimated at $5 billion or more.
If he runs, Mike Bloomberg will be testing the theory that, in the 21st century, you can buy the presidency of the United States.
This is a vanity campaign. But how many votes can Mike buy? If Bloomberg spent $1 billion and got 5 million votes, each would have cost him $200. How many billions would it take to buy 40 million votes — and victory in a three-way race?
Bloomberg’s toying with a run is the best news the GOP has had since Sam Alito. If he gets in, the party should insist that he, and Ralph Nader if he enters, be included in the debates. If he gets in, the RNC should make sure America knows of Mike’s fine record in fighting the Burger King Whopper, Winstons and Winchesters.
Help him take the liberals away from Hillary
The Bloomberg campaign does underscore what is wrong with our national politics. Bush is at 29 percent, and the Democratic Congress is at 23 percent. The largest and fastest-growing party in America is independents who have walked away from their party out of disillusionment or disgust. American democracy is no longer working. Whether on the war or on the border, the will of the people is not translated into policy.
In a working democracy, this would bring a repudiation of both failed parties. But they have gotten a lock on the presidency. If Mike Bloomberg can expose that failed duopoly, more power to him.
“PART of the idea of Global Warming, is, of course, screwed up weather patterns… BECAUSE of the warming cycle…”
Perfect! It snows because of Global Warming. You people have it all covered. Did you guys invent the deer whistle?
No Fleet, but it does work quite well, in some areas!!
“Perfect! It snows because of Global Warming. You people have it all covered.”
Fleet, Upstate New York received record snowfalls this past winter. The cause was global warming. The Great Lakes did not freeze as earlier as usual causing a great increase in lake effect snow.
Having grown up in Michigan, I am well aware of lake effect snow. The atmosphere picks up huge amounts of moisture from the lakes and dumps it in the form of snow. Ten and twelve inch snowfalls are not uncommon in many areas and huge snowfalls are not unusual.
Global warming messes up normal CLIMATE patterns and cause issues with WEATHER on a localized basis.
All of the effects of global warming are not manifested in higher temperatures.
Clark, it might be another good day for a walk!!
blahblahblah
You see, Fleet, it’s that kind of smarty pants response that tends to make so many of us laugh at you… Just do some basic meteorological homework, and you will see what Clark says is true!!
“You see, Fleet, it’s that kind of smarty pants response that tends to make so many of us laugh at you… “Posted by: Chas. | June 27, 2007 at 12:21 PM
I’m laughing WITH him. Lighten up Chas. He is funny as hell.
Well, Lunch Break, and Dr. appts.
Climate models predict faster and more warming of the Northern hemisphere.It IS happening.
2006 Surface Temperature Anomalyhttp://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/news/20070208/2006_temp_anom.gif
http://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/news/20070208/
Top 5 warmest years worldwide since the 1890’s:1) 20052) 19983) 20024) 20035) 2006
The graphs of observed temperatures match the models predictions using natural AND anthropogenic forcings.’Climate myths: We can’t trust computer models’http://environment.newscientist.com/channel/earth/climate-change/dn11649
Gingrich Distorts Immigration BillJune 27, 2007
He claims it would grant residency to gang members and potential terrorists, contrary to what the bill actually says.
Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich made false claims about the Senate immigration bill in a TV ad for a conservative group. He said it “will put…potential terrorists and gang members on a path to U.S. citizenship,” which is contrary to the language of the legislation.
You can read the rest of the summary and view a video of the ad here:
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/gingrich_distorts_immigration_bill.html
Please don’t assume that by posting this that I am for or against the immigration bill. My intention here is to bring the truth out about Newt Gingrich’s ad.
HOLY COW
there is a reason to like Susan Peters after all.
those donations have made me rethink my opinion that she was total fluff…she is smarter than that.
“You see, Fleet, it’s that kind of smarty pants…”
Smarty pants? Well, you’re a booger face.
“…it “will put…potential terrorists and gang members on a path to U.S. citizenship,” ”
That is probably a true statement.”Potential” is the saving grace.
fleettwood,
Johannesburg’s average minimum temperature this year is 0.7 deg C. WARMER than the past 47-year average. And 4 deg C. WARMER than in 1968, the coldest on record.
They only dropped to minus 1 degree C. (30.2 degrees F.) when it snowed.The only unusual thing seems to be that more moisture was available, to make the snow.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601091&sid=awNaI9yDGOnc&refer=india“The city’s average minimum temperature for June over the past 47 years is 4 degrees Celsius, according to data provided by the South Africa Weather Service.
This year’s average minimum is 4.7 degrees compared with 0.7 degrees in 1968, the coldest on record.”
‘Waxman Reveals Numerous New Security Violations, Threatens Subpoenas’http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/26/waxman-security-officers/
* White House security officers blocked from inspecting the West Wing.* Karl Rove has had his security clearance renewed.* White House ignored security breaches, condoned mismanagement.
While fleettwood stupidly claims that warmer than average minimum temperatures in Jo-burg disprove global warming…
And SolDevVB is “laughing WITH him”…
‘Death toll rises from heatwave in Europe’http://uk.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUKL2777360720070627“Greece is experiencing its worst heatwave in 110 years that has already killed eight people, with temperatures reaching 46 Celsius (114.8 Fahrenheit) during five days of sweltering weather that showed no signs on Wednesday of letting up.”
‘Heatwaves, floods torment Europe’http://abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/06/28/1964084.htm?section=justin“The dramatic weather conditions across Europe, as well as flooding in Asia, prompted the United Nations’ top disaster prevention official to call for better global preparedness to cope with the impact of climate change.
“We cannot wait to be taken by surprise, we know what is going to happen and we can prepare for it,” Salvano Briceno, director of the UN International Strategy for Disaster Reduction said….A scorching heatwave had already claimed 29 lives and Tuesday was the hottest day of the year with temperatures topping 45 degrees Celsius in Bucharest.”
You can be skeptical of the models used in global warming, but that doesn’t change the FACT that measurements show it happening. In addition to standard temperature measurements, glaciers are receding, the arctic may be ice-free in the summer soon, arctic ice has thinned considerably, disease bearing mosquitoes are now found in Latin America at the 5,000 ft. elevation level when they were limited to 3,500 ft a few decades ago,several tropical and subtropical species are extending their ranges, trees sensitive to temperature, like sugar maples, are receding, pollen is being released earlier in the spring by many plants, malaria parasites are maturing faster in mosquito guts because of warmer temperatures, etc.
The point is NOT whether the models are correct or not. The point is “can we do anything to mitigate the rising temperatures?”. One small thing we can do is to limit our contribution to warming, however small or large it might be, by emitting lower levels of greenhouse gases.
All that the climate models try to do is to explain the observed temperature rise…they aren’t a priori predicting it, merely trying to explain it.
I tell ya what, you libs should make bobby cutts jr. your poster BOY for affirmative action. hehehe
How did Cutts get hired as officer?By ED BALINT, GateHouse Media
CANTON – The police officer accused of killing his girlfriend and her unborn child was given consideration to be hired on the city force because he was black, according to the civil service director, police chief and city records.
Bobby L. Cutts Jr. scored 70th out of 98 applicants who passed the civil service exam for police officer in March 2000. Cutts, however, was interviewed and ultimately hired over about 40 other candidates, the vast majority of whom were white men. The reason is a city law that required black candidates be considered if less than roughly 18 percent of the police force was black, said Samuel Sliman, civil service director.
“It gets you skipped up (the eligibility list) in consideration,” said Police Chief Dean McKimm. “It brings you to the forefront of other candidates who actually scored higher than you. Whether you think it’s fair or not, that’s the net effect of the (city) ordinance.”
Cutts, 30, of Plain Township is accused of killing Jessie M. Davis, 26, in her Lake Township duplex June 14, according to court papers. Cutts is charged with two counts of murder, including the death of Davis’ unborn baby girl, which Davis’ family members contend Cutts fathered. Davis was nine months pregnant and due Tuesday.http://www.timesreporter.com/index.php?ID=69576
Yeah cosmos, they should panic in Greece, here are some temperatures from Rhodeshttp://www.wunderground.com/global/stations/16749.html
Athens:http://www.wunderground.com/US/GA/Athens.html
or how about Bucharest, Romania?
http://www.wunderground.com/global/stations/15420.html
Maybe he meant last year, let’s check July 1
http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/LRBS/2006/7/1/DailyHistory.html?req_city=NA&req_state=NA&req_statename=NA
August 1?http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/LRBS/2006/8/1/DailyHistory.html?req_city=NA&req_state=NA&req_statename=NA
How about seasonal averages for 2006?http://www.wunderground.com/NORMS/DisplayIntlNORMS.asp?CityCode=15420&Units=both
How about seasonal averages for Johannesburg?
http://www.wunderground.com/NORMS/DisplayIntlNORMS.asp?CityCode=68368&Units=both
How about right here in Wichita Kansas?
http://www.wunderground.com/NORMS/DisplayNORMS.asp?AirportCode=KICT&SafeCityName=Wichita&StateCode=KS&Units=none&IATA=ICT
:)
Jeez, another one that can’t tell the difference between CLIMATE and WEATHER.
When will they learn?
WSClark,
It doesn’t even know the difference between Greece and the U.S.
“Yeah cosmos, they should panic in Greece, here are some temperatures from …Athens:http://www.wunderground.com/US/GA/Athens.html ”
The heatwave is also impacting crops and wildlife.http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=%22heat+wave%22+greece
And fleettwood thinks this disproves global warming.http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601091&sid=awNaI9yDGOnc&refer=india“The city’s average minimum temperature for June over the past 47 years is 4 degrees Celsius, according to data provided by the South Africa Weather Service.
This year’s average minimum is 4.7 degrees compared with 0.7 degrees in 1968, the coldest on record.”
They’re proof that this is true:
Vote Republican — it’s easier than thinking.
Where is this in the U.S. Cosmos?
“Greece is experiencing its worst heatwave in 110 years that has already killed eight people, with temperatures reaching 46 Celsius (114.8 Fahrenheit) during five days of sweltering weather that showed no signs on Wednesday of letting up.”
Hmmm? :)
Perhaps you prefer this?http://www.worldclimate.com/cgi-bin/data.pl?ref=N37E023+1102+16716W
I’m having trouble finding that 46C temperature and how it fits in with average temperature.
“And fleettwood thinks this disproves global warming.”
Fap on, Brother, Fap onIsley Brothers
Let the SUPEONAS begin . . .
Senate Issues Subpoenas in Eavesdropping Investigation
WASHINGTON, June 27 — The Senate Judiciary Committee today issued subpoenas to the White House, Vice President Dick Cheney’s office and the Justice Department after what the panel’s chairman called “stonewalling of the worst kind” of efforts to investigate the National Security Agency’s policy of wiretapping without warrantsThe move put Senate Democrats squarely on a course they had until now avoided, setting the stage for a showdown with the Bush administration over one of the most contentious issues arising from the White House’s campaign against terrorism.
Senator Patrick J. Leahy, the Vermont Democrat who is chairman of the committee, said the subpoenas seek documents that could shed light on the legal basis used by the administration to justify the wiretapping, as well as on disputes within the government over its legality.
In addition, the panel is seeking materials on issues related to the wiretapping , including those concerning the relationship between the Bush administration and several unidentified telecommunications companies that aided the N.S.A. eavesdropping program.
The panel’s action was the most aggressive move yet by lawmakers to investigate the N.S.A. program since the Democrats gained control of Congress this year. Mr. Leahy said at a news conference today that the committee issued the subpoenas because the administration has followed a “consistent pattern of evasion and misdirection” in dealing with Congressional efforts to scrutinize the program. “It’s unacceptable. It is stonewalling of the worst kind,” he added.
*****
In the immortal words of Austin Powers: “Yieh BABY, YIEH!”
or perhaps this cosmos?
http://www.wunderground.com/global/GR.html
Here’s the link–
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/27/washington/27cnd-nsa.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
Now, the REPUKES can either tell the truth and go to jail or they can lie and go to jail like Scooter Libby.
It’s a beautiful day in Washington . . .
Where exactly is this heat wave cosmos?
Did they place the thermometer in a metal box on top of white rock next to a steam generator? :D
I think I liked it better as JM.
But then Rhonda doesn’t let it post under JM, does it, precious?
We hates RHONDA, don’ts we, preciousss?
Yes, we HATES it.
Perhaps Leakey Leahy is bothered by the fact Capn, that his loose lips caused the death of an uncover agent in the 1980s.
Leakey Leahy has always had a problem with loose lips and secrets.
“LOCAL citrus producers have their fingers crossed waiting to see if their fruit suffered frost damage after the area experienced its coldest June day ever last week.”
We simply must get a handle on this Global Warming thing, before we all freeze to death.
“Yeah cosmos, they should panic in Greece, here are some temperatures from …Athens:http://www.wunderground.com/US/GA/Athens.html ”
Posted by: Republican | June 27, 2007 at 07:14 PMhttp://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/06/open-thread-627.html#comment-74215678
That’s Athens Georgia, USA.
Wow, just wow, perhaps one of the blog Nazis would comment on this stuff????? Yikes!!
Local bases are not immune. John Sharpe’s problems were starting even as those of another submariner, based in Norfolk, were coming to an end. Yet this man’s case was handled in secret, without comment by the Navy or notice by the media. Now discharged from the military and banned from working at all shipyards with Navy contracts, he agreed to discuss his case, but requested anonymity to protect his current job.
The man, a nuclear engineer serving aboard submarines, was forced to resign his position as local unit leader of the neo-Nazi National Socialist Movement when the Naval Criminal Investigative Service approached him about his activities. In February 2006, he signed a statement renouncing his membership, which resulted in his branding as a “traitor” by former neo-Nazi colleagues. Yet this did not save him with the Navy. He transferred to a carrier, but by May 2006 was forced from the Navy and banned from working at the shipyard even as a civilian. “I’m not going to damage ships, I told them; the military is a lifestyle, a higher calling,” he said in a phone interview. “I still am proud to have been a sailor….”
Yet the most frightening local case is one that never appeared in the media and cannot be confirmed. Tom J. Leyden is a former Nazi skinhead and Marine who recruited inside the Corps for the Hammerskins, then quit the movement after leaving the Marines in 1990 to monitor racist groups for the Simon Wiesenthal Center in Los Angeles. Today he is co-owner of the California-based Strhate Talk Consulting, spending his time on the lecture circuit, appearing at law enforcement conferences across the nation, and attempting to extract young men and women from the groups he once frequented. Although neo-Nazis dispute his claims of membership and authenticity, law enforcement professionals call Leyden “completely reliable.”
According to Leyden, a friend in one of the military investigative services showed him some court-martial papers from 2001. “I wasn’t supposed to see this,” he said, “but my friend wanted it to get out—these things get covered up so much, and he was concerned.” Although the names were blacked out and other details redacted, it became clear to him that in January 2001, five men in Norfolk with ties to the nuclear Navy were arrested “for trying to get the last few components to build a hydrogen bomb,” Leyden said in a phone interview. “The purpose was to explode it in Arlington and take out Washington. D.C.” When their houses were searched, three of the five were found to have National Alliance paraphernalia at home…..
“increasingly isolated from mainstream America, today’s troops tend to view the civilian world with suspicion and sometimes hostility”—an observation that Phillips believes still applies. Such thinking would account for the statement made in the December 1994 Marine Corps Gazette, published four months before McVeigh’s attack in Oklahoma City. The article, written by William S. Lind, a military analyst influential in Marine doctrinal thinking, and two Marine reservists, contends that American culture is “collapsing” and must be saved by the military:
“Starting in the mid-1960s, we have thrown away the values, morals, and standards that define traditional Western culture. In part, this has been driven by cultural radicals, people who hate our Judeo-Christian culture. Dominant in the elite, especially in the universities, the media, and the entertainment industries . . . [t]his agenda has slowly codified into a new ideology, usually known as ‘multiculturalism’ or ‘political correctness,’ that is in essence Marxism translated from economic into social and cultural terms.”
Such a statement reads like the fairly standard political rhetoric of Pat Robertson or Rush Limbaugh, and comes as no surprise. The shocker lies in the conclusion: “The point is not merely that America’s Armed Forces will find themselves facing nonnation-state (sic) conflicts and forces overseas,” Lind wrote. “The point is that the same conflicts are coming here.”
Then comes the clincher: “The next real war we fight is likely to be on American soil,” against those anti-American cultural radicals. It is the kind of apocalyptic declaration Timothy McVeigh read in his beloved Turner Diaries.
http://www.portfolioweekly.com/Pages/InfoPage.php/iID/3028
Sgt. Laughter is more appropriate…
And the kind of thing that McVeigh fan Coulter preaches.
fleettwood,
Thank you for helping me find,
‘NSW October 2006: Hottest and driest October on record’http://www.bom.gov.au/announcements/media_releases/nsw/20061101nsw.shtml
And thanks for the ROFL’s. Wagga Wagga is also in NSW. Hahahahahahahaha….
‘Its cold today in Wagga Wagga’http://illconsidered.blogspot.com/2006/02/its-cold-today-in-wagga-wagga.html
Yep Ann Copulter, among others in the Reich Wing movement… They really LIKED McVeigh… And it was reported that one of McVeigh’s “media” heroes was Rush Limbaugh… Limbaugh has denied it.
Everybody is always saying “follow the money” I wish somebody would take on the task of following the money that pays Limbaugh, cause then we would ALL know who is paying for his daily diatribe against American values…
Just look to his advertisers, sponsors and publishers Chas. The money isnt that hard to follow. If they werent supporting the drugged one, he wouldnt be on the air.