Here’s how a harsh leading light of the right turned on President Bush this week: “We’re all just waiting for this nincompoop to be gone. I think we’re all finally on the same page on that.” Even so, speaking on ABC’s “Good Morning America,” Ann Coulter also did have appreciative words for Bush’s handling of the war.
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LOL now isn’t that fair and balanced Rhonda…a blog about a liberal woman, and a blog about a demon woman.
The 26% aren’t going to be happy with man coulter!
I love Ann Coulter! She is going to do for the GOP what Hitler did for Germany! Destroy it!
Elizabeth Edwards confronts Anne Coulter on HardballDavid Edwards and Adam DosterPublished: Tuesday June 26, 2007
In front of a Republican-leaning crowd on Chris Matthew’s “Hardball” Tuesday, Ann Coulter received an unexpected phone call from Elizabeth Edwards, wife of presidential candidate John Edwards, asking the “journalist” to raise the level of public discourse in America above personal attacks.
“In the South, when somebody does something that displeases us, we like to ask them politley to stop doing it,” said Edwards. “I’d like to ask Ann Coulter too. If she’d like to debate on issues, on positions — we certainly disagree with nearly everything she said on your show today — but it’s quite another matter for these personal attacks.”
The call comes on the heels of a “Good Morning America” appearance yesterday where Coulter was asked about her homophobic cutdown of the former North Carolina Senator a few months ago. “So I’ve learned my lesson. If I’m going to say anything about John Edwards in the future,” she replied. “I’ll just wish he had been killed in a terrorist assasination plot.”
Although Coulter flippantly agreed to a debate, Edwards kept pushing back. “It did not start with [yesterday]. You had a column a couple years ago which made fun of the moment of Charlie Dean’s death and suggessted that my husband had a bumper sticker on the back of his car that said, ‘ask me about my dead son.’ This is not legitimate political dialogue. It debases political dialogue. It draws people away from the process. We can’t have a debate about the issues if you’re using this type of language.”
Coulter later questioned why the presidential candidate didn’t phone in himself, to which Elizabeth had a ready answer. “I haven’t talked to John about this call. I’m phoning in as a mother,” she said to much applause. “I’m the mother of that boy who died. . . These young people behind you are the age of my children. You’re asking them to particpate in a dialogue that’s based on hatefullness and ugliness instead of on the issues and I don’t think that’s serving them or this country very well.”
When given time to respond by Matthews, Coulter railed on Edwards for what she deemed a first amendment violation. “I think we’ve heard all we need to hear,” she says. “The wife of a presidential candidate is asking me to stop speaking. No.”
The following video is from MSNBC’s Hardball, broadcast on June 26.
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Elizabeth_Edwards_confronts_Anne_Coulter_on_0626.html
I see coultergeist has a new book that came out in paperback on Monday?
Gee, what a coincidence that the MSM is “inviting” her to make the talk show rounds.
Even the WE blog fell for it.
Nice job promoting her and her books. She’s laughing all the way to the bank at BOTH the right and the left.
That’s a good picture of her.
By “good,” I mean accurate.
It brings out the snake-like qualities of the pit viper.
At least Coulter didn’t call for one of her terrorist friends to kill Bush!
Sounds like she’s sunk to the level of Fred Phelps and his clan of hatemongers…maybe she should see if he has any openings for new members in his “church”. I’m sure she’d have a lot to contribute.
Phelps and Coulter together? It boggles the mind to see all that hatred in one place! Maybe they could find a cave on Borneo, and work from there.
Can we please stop paying attention to this cynical bitch? Have any of you noticed that the outrageous comments are always timed to release of her latest book?
She only has one objective, and that’s lining her own pockets with green.
BTW, Ben, Coulter has said so many vile, outrageous and offensive things one can’t even begin. She got kicked off the National Review for a reason: she has no ethics and is only about using outrageousness to get attention to herself. Look at the way she dresses…she’s an acid-tongues Paris Hilton.
“I think we’ve heard all we need to hear,” she says. “The wife of a presidential candidate is asking me to stop speaking. No.”
I saw this exchange re-broadcast this morning, and Coulter’s amazing leap from Edwards asking her to “stop making hate speech” to “You’re asking me to stop speaking” was actually not that amazing when you consider that Coulter was really admitting that the only thing she ever says is hate speech.
So asking her to stop making hate speech is indeed the same as asking her to stop speaking, because she has nothing else to say, by her own admission.
“Maybe they could find a cave on Borneo, and work from there.”
Nawwww, Jed. I think coultergeist just needs to come to kansas to join up with terry, joe and phred.
Kansas has been very good to phred in providing him the kind of atmosphere where his brand of hate could not only survive, but thrive.
After all, 70+ percent of kansas voters disagree with phred only by degree.
Coultergeist should find herself among friends in kansas…
“…but it’s quite another matter for these personal attacks.”"
Why should Coulter stop when the people writing on this thread right now are calling names?What’s good for the goose…
Even for Ann “the Man” Coulter, the death of a candidate’s son should be off limits.
Apparently, Coulter HAS no limits to her hate speech.
It’s funny that mAnn Coulter essentially admitted that she couldn’t talk or write without spewing hate speech. Such are the intellectual limitations of conservatives.
I love it when a hit-man turns on his master. GO ANN GO!
“Such are the intellectual limitations of conservatives.”
Ahem.
“mAnn Coulter Ann” “”the Man” Coulter” “Coultergeist” “Look at the way she dresses” “cynical bitch” “snake-like qualities of the pit viper.”
Wow…
She calls Bush a nincompoop and you guys go nuts.
What is your problem? You people are so full of hate it is not even funny.
Nathan,
Mocking the death of Edwards’ son isn’t hateful? Wishing death on John Edwards isn’t hateful? If you were paying attention to this thread, you’d see what people were talking about.
::eyeroll::
The problem, Nathan, is that she also said made comments about John Edwards using his son’s death to make money, and very recently she made another comment about Edwards being killed in a terrorist attack. Sje has made so many nasty statements about any and all liberals that one little disagreemnet with Bush is not going to get us “on her side.”
Regarding calling her a “bitch”, she cultivates a publicly vile persona and I don’t have to re-state that here. I would never say that about her in a truly public forum, however, as it is a pejorative judgement inappropriate for advancing professionalism or public discourse (let the hand-ringing about the privacy of blogging begin).
Also, what I meant about Coulter is that, except for the fairly tasteful pic above, she often dresses in a way that follows her mantra of getting attention in (almost) any way possible. How many other recognizable scholars, tv journalists, or pundits can you think of that wear slinky black dresses and flick their hair around all the time? She wants us to pay attention to her…so we’ll buy her books. She’s a carefully-planned marketing product, nothing more.
I do wish my colleagues would stop making assumptions about all conservatives, however. You’re not helping the case when you do that.
And don’t forget her lamenting the fact that her favorite terrorist didn’t blow up the NYTimes.
And don’t forget her lamenting the fact that her favorite terrorist didn’t blow up the NYTimes.
Such hypocrites.
Look at all the hateful things said about Bush on this Blog. Most of them much worse that what Coulter has ever said.
How anyone, regardless of party affiliation, can even read coulter, let alone believe the crap she writes, is beyond me. When asked by Mrs. Edwards to limit herself to writing without the hate filled garbage, coulter accuses her of attempting to limit her writing period.
Ann Coulter is the antithesis of what good writing entails. She has no morals, no decency and no idea of what a good American is. She sells sensationalism for the sake of sensationalism and no other reason. She is in the same league as phred phelps.
Republican – I don’t recall any of us lamenting that McVeigh didn’t blow up Bush.
I agree Stumper — she is ALL of that, and much, much more… And besides that, she probably stinks!
Excuse me, probably h/she stinks!
Nice statement Ben, too bad you have to give an example to prove that some specific statement was never said by someone else.
So you are providing the writers in this Blog an excuse then Ben?
Or are you stating that if someone doesn’t say something exactly like Coulter then they get a bye on whatever they say?
Republican, the things said on this blog are not public in the same way that Coulter is public. She has the POWER of the media, whereas unknown ranting bloggers do not–our identities are concealed. Not only does that allow for more lewd “discourse” and name-calling on the blog, it actually somewhat justifies it, because the lack of complete publicness increases the freedom of the speech.
With an individual gaining the power of the full public persona and the ability to influence millions with words comes a certain responsibility to contribute opinions and ideas that do not pass beyond a (much more tightly guarded) line of taste and acceptability according to the standards of the day.
Coulter crosses over that line so routinely that it is very apparent that her agenda is not to contribute, but to create spectacle (much like Howard Stern or the aforementioned Paris Hilton–they do it in a different way from Coulter, but their objectives are the same).
Some on Weblog only want to create spectacle too. But they don’t have the power of national press/airwaves on their side, and I dare say that if they did their approach would change or they would lose that power quickly.
Ben,
There’s a certain Kansas Congressman who had a child commit suicide a few years back. No one on this blog mocks that tragedy. The troll’s claim of hypocrisy is nothing more than nasty bleating. It should be ignored.
“I don’t recall any of us lamenting that McVeigh didn’t blow up Bush.”
Anyone remember what was written here after Jerry Fallwell died?I don’t recall anything more hate-filled than that, thanks to our Lib friends.
“Such hypocrites.
Look at all the hateful things said about Bush on this Blog. Most of them much worse that what Coulter has ever said.”
No, Republican, I was simply noting that your claim was and is FALSE. Calling for mass murder as Coulter has done is FAR worse than anything I have seen said by the ‘left’ on this blog. And, I would add Tom’s comments – I don’t recall making fun of Tiahrt’s tragedy.
Let’s examine hypocrisy. When Mrs. Edwards got cancer the right claimed John was using her to raise money and essentially mocked her cancer.
When Tony Snow got cancer the left gave him sympathy.
Hypocrisy? Nope. You have Jerry Falwell, Ann Coulter and other reich-wingers spewing hate and they get an appropriate response. Jimmy Carter gives some polite criticism of Bush and the reich-wing goes wild and attacks him viciously.
It the neo-cons weren’t so filled with hate then perhaps we on the left wouldn’t have anything to attack you with. I suppose you can’t help it when your party’s platform is based upon hatred of gays and racial minorities. It’s a person’s patriotic duty to criticize fascists.
Ann Coulter is over the top. But not as bad as some have insinuated and frequently taken out of context. She is getting rich.
Republican is spot on, again. And there are a couple of relative newbies who are the worst offenders. They are first rate mindless haters and never taken to task for their comments here. Probably because their hate is directed at conservatives.
And Tom, the tragedy you mention was mocked and exploited here. Look it up.
I’m hungry. What’s for lunch?
I’m not defending Ann Coulter, don’t particularly like her commentary or viewpoints.
I just find it absurd with all these “pots calling the kettle.”
Jimmy Carter deserves to be attacked. He has broken the unwritten rule of honor about former Presidents not interfering with foreign policy(which he has many times) and making criticizing comments (which he has thousands of times) of sitting Presidents.
“I’m hungry. What’s for lunch?”
Liberals
How do you take out of context “the only problem I have with Timothy McVeigh is that he didn’t hit the New York Times building?”
Seems pretty straight forward to me – she was advocating the bombing of an office building in NYC.
Not much room for interpretation.
Republican, I agree with you about Jimmy. I think he has crossed the line recently, given his position and standing. He’s amlways been imperious.
But if Coulter or Michael Moore said the same things the same way, no one would (or did) bat an eye.
So one’s standing and position are a big factor on where “the line” is.
The line, in 2000 George H W Bush threatened to “expose” Bill Clinton if he campaigned against his “boy.”
What line?
Again Ben, you are using things that were never said to prove that something else was said is worse than comments made here on the blog.
Don’t make me go back and pull examples of what has been said here and on a daily basis that you and other Liberals let slide by without making one comment that it is inappropriate.
Christ, talk about a kettle.
never said? Ann Coulter never said she wished McVeigh blew up the NYTimes? She never ridiculed Edwards’ loss?
Outlander,
When? This blog is a little over a year old. Tiahrt’s tragic loss happened in 2004.
Yes WSClark, that would be you. Perhaps I should bring up the statement you made towards Fleettwood about him “raping his dead daughters.” ooops, I already stated it.
Whatever Ben, when you posit something that has never been stated here as a standard to measure what was actually said here, then you are assigning a negative to prove a negative.
Illogical and and not noteworthy.
I’m in the middle of reading US Grant’s personal memoirs and a lot of what he has to say seems relevant today. Here he talks about the Know-Nothing Party right before the Civil War (the Know-Nothings were anti-immigrant, anti-Catholic, ant-Jewish, etc.)
“No political party can or ought to exist when one of its cornerstones is opposition to freedom of thought and to the right to worship God ‘according to the dictate of one’s own conscience’, or according to the one creed of any religious denomination whatever.”
and Grant was a Republican !! Sad how the party has fallen from its initial ideals.
BFAH,
Those were the days when the Republican Party was the party of the Yankee northeast and the cities of the industrial midwest. The Democratic Party, back then, was the party of slavery, Klan, and Jim Crow.
So one’s standing and position are a big factor on where “the line” is.
Posted by: delsol | June 27, 2007 at 12:22 PM
Very true.
Republican -
“Most of them much worse that what Coulter has ever said.”
You compared to what COULTER has ever said. So, I brought up something that COULTER said – lamenting that McVeigh’s mass murder didn’t target the NYTimes.
Do you deny that Coulter said that?
Ben,
It’s the troll’s old three-part trick:
1. Change the subject.2. Create a straw-man from the new subject, and attribute it to _your_ position3. Attack you for a position you never took.
It’s a formula that works well for the troll. It took me a while to figure out exactly what it was doing, but now, every time it posts, it’s obvious.
Sigh, ninety-eighth time, Republank – my comments about Fleet’s daughter was a COMPARISON to him accusing me of treason.
Both are heinous crime – neither are true – no one should be accused of either unless it IS true.
Moron.
That one IS true.
Tom, indeed.
My point was that the current Republican party could very well turn into another “know-nothing” sect if the evangelical right continues to hold so much sway. In a way, this might be a good thing. The Know-Nothings of the 1850s gave way to the Republican party dedicated to the restoration of freedom to the slaves, tolerance, etc.
With luck, maybe we’ll see the passing away of the current batch of know-nothings and the birth of another party dedicated to the principles on which the country was founded.
I don’t think you liberals would get context if it slapped you in the face.
Ann Coulter was playing off of what Bill Maher said about the Vice President being killed in a terrorist attack.
Of course you leave that part out of the quote:
“that would be mean. But about the same time, Bill Maher was not joking when he said he wished Dick Cheney had been killed in a terrorist attack.”
Coulter then added, “So I’ve learned my lesson, if I’m gonna say anything about John Edwards in the future, I’ll just wish he’d been killed in a terrorist assassination plot,”
Ann Coulter did not really wish John Edwards would have been killed in a terrorist plot.
Ann Coulter really did mock the loss of the Edwards’ son. Every time you pretend otherwise, or just flat ignore it, you’re sanctioning that kind of behavior as appropriate.
And if the “old three-part trick” does not work (or apply), it will just post a flat-out LIE.
No Ben.
You have move the goal posts to the side of the field now and there is no way to calibrate distancing from what was said and what has never been said.
As previously brought up, Michael Moore and Ann Coulter are in the same business but on extreme opposite sides of the political spectrum. Both make outlandish claims and remarks.
To think that the majority of the people give a hoot about Coulter says other than stating, “that was inappropriate” is about all the weight it needs to be given.
The biggest difference between Coulter and Moore is that the Libs turn Moore’s productions into a cult following.
I find no similarities with Coulter. She is fringe for sure and often ignored as much by the Right Wing as she is demonized by the Left.
What the Left doesn’t realize is that they execute single point in time examples to show hypocrisy and inappropriate remarks to categorize people.
What the Left fails to do is to realize their own cult followings of people who do this on a regular basis to not only get praise for, but placed on a pseudo pedestal of social commentary invulnerability through the MSM.
“Ann Coulter did not really wish John Edwards would have been killed in a terrorist plot.”
And how do you know this, Nathan?
She also advocated the bombing of the NYTimes building and poisoning of a Supreme Court Justices coffee.
She further claimed that John Walker Lynch’s conviction was a warning to liberals that “they too could be killed.”
How do you know that she isn’t serious? Murder and bombing sound serious to me.
Lunch,
home-made pita and lamb today.
WS Clark,
By having the ability to read. That is how I know.
Try it.
Republican, it’s only recently that the right has begun dismissing Coulter. As for Moore, he’s inflammatory in more of a conspiracy-theory kind of way. There’s lots of parallel for that on the right (Tammie Bruce and Neil Boortz come to mind).
Tom,
Ann coulter made fun of John Edwards using his sons death in his political campaign.
She did not mock his sons death.
1. Change the subject: “Michael Moore! Michael Moore!”
2. Stuff the straw-man: “No one cares about Ann Coulter. Michael Moore is a cult!”
3. Attack the previous poster based on a position never taken: “You’re a hypocrite for not attacking Michael Moore!!”
“By having the ability to read. That is how I know.”
I have been reading for fifty years, Nathan and I wonder how you can determine that Coulter’s intent was benign after reading her statements.
If someone on the left had advocated poisoning a Justices coffee, the right wing would be screaming for a death sentence.
“…to him accusing me of treason.”
For the 98th time, it’s sedition not treason.
Nathan,
When CF2K made fun of Tiahrt for oppotunistically referring to his son’s death during the BTK media fest, y’all jumped all over him.
The fine distinction you’ve invoked here to justify Coulter’s attack wasn’t recognized by you and your ilk when it was used to attack a conservative. Imagine that.
“…but it’s quite another matter for these personal attacks.”"
Why should Coulter stop when the people writing on this thread right now are calling names?What’s good for the goose…
Posted by: fleettwood
Elizabeth Edwards politely asked Coulter to stop the personal attacks. Mrs. Edwards did not use hateful speech to Coulter. And why am I not surprised to see Fleetwood upholding Coulter?
Two peas from the same pod? Coulter is no different than Rush Limbaugh and it was the so-called Christian Conservative Republicans that lined Rush’s pockets with millions.
If Fleetie wants to uphold Coulter, that is his right to do so; but I think he will find it very difficult to find many supporters helping him to defend Coulter’s vindictive, hate-filled message any longer. True patriots of America are tired of this type of political dialogue and Ann Coulter might have just gotten John Edwards some more supporters by displaying her vile tongue for all the world to see.
As I see it, Ann Coulter is wishing that John Edwards was killed by some terrorist as nothing more than when Pat Robertson stated that the CIA should assassinate Hugo Chavez a few years ago. For being such religious folk – Coulter and Robertson should be careful of what they say. The Bible says that if you think it, it is the same as doing the deed. So is Coulter and Robertson guilty of murder in their hearts?
God will be judging one day and I’m sure he/she has something special reserved for Coulter and Robertson. Two con people who use God’s name in vain.
Nathan just another pointless post by WS as he has nothing pertinent to relate so has to turn to hyperbole.
His eyesight has been permanently slanted left and he is great at taking things out of context and calling others liars.
I ignore his rants as have many who no longer post here because he is such a bore.
He just looked right over the fact that she was answering a point Maher had made and not advocating an action. Typical of him.
And, of course, it goes without saying that the Rude Pundit has the final, magisterial word as regards the train wreck that is Ann Coulter.
http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/
Still working on that “my son was stationed in the Gulf during the bombing of the Cole” thing, KSGrm? How is that working out? Your son left the Navy in 1994 but was stationed in the Gulf in October 2000?
Yeah, right.
WS Clark,
Let me break it down for you big purple dino style:
READ SLOWLY
“that would be mean. But about the same time, Bill Maher was not joking when he said he wished Dick Cheney had been killed in a terrorist attack.”
Coulter then added, “So I’ve learned my lesson, if I’m gonna say anything about John Edwards in the future, I’ll just wish he’d been killed in a terrorist assassination plot,”
Did you see the IF up there? Following her reference to what Bill Maher said?
It is obvious she was showing the disparity of outrage at what Bill Maher said.
Also,
I have met Ann Coulter and spoken with her.
tranny annie is almost as vile as oxy rush underage boy loving Rush
and they are all a product of the most corrupt administration EVER in this country
You couldn’t see what point she was trying to make if it was a 600lb tuna being slapped across your face…
Re: Maher–
Maher is a political satirst. He says outrageous things in some small part to be funny.
To my knowledge, Coulter has never called herself a “humorist,” “satirist,” or “comedian,” and whether or not you think Maher is funny, he starts all his programs with a monologue like Jay Leno.
Context counts.
Nathan,
Golly. We’re all really impressed. Did she look like a meth addict up close, too?
Just because you have met Ann Coulter, does that make you privy to her thoughts?
Nathan, the woman says outlandish things about Edwards and she DID mock the death of his son. Whether you believe it or not does not make what she said any different.
Just admit it, you like Coulter because she is a hateful, vile, and totally whacko GOP lover. No wonder you like her. And she does throw God’s name in every once in awhile so that you makes you feel good – doesn’t it?
That was good, CF. It definitely takes the wind out of the sails of those that claim that Maher “wished” Cheney had been killed in a terrorist attack.
Bill Maher NEVER said that he wish Dick Cheney had been killed in a terrorist attack, Nathan.
He asked rhetorically if the world would be better off without Cheney.
The answer is yes, by a HUGE margin.
So, if it;s only humor, or satire, or said by a satirist, it’s okay to make statments about wishing the vice president had been killed in a terrorist attack?
Actually Tom, to point out the hypocrisy of your statements, I was addressing what delsol introduced, that is namely Michael Moore and the context in which he delivers a message.
Also, reread Doug’s opinions.
I guess you have nothing new to offer to the thread Tom, so you attack what you think is my strategy.
Sorry Tom, but your obvious failure to analyze the situation accurately is indicative of many of your posts.
Repuklican, nathan fleetsenema and outlander…it is quite funny to watch you spin and spin then lie and conflate. You have taken lessons from your 49 cent rovian master book..
BUT WE ARE NOT BUYING YOUR CRAP and it seems most of the people that were asleep are now WIDE awake too.
Bill did say that we would be better off if he had died did he not?
Once again,
If you read her comments it is OBVIOUS that she is not saying she wants Edwards to die in a terrorist attack.
READ
“BUT WE ARE NOT BUYING YOUR CRAP”
Do you buy your capital letters from the UN Department of Worthless Resolutions?
no, fleetsenema, I found them up your chute where the rest of your bs comes from
yea I am angry and crass, but you know what, I really don’t care anymore. Being nice and playing by the rules has gotten us nothing but screwed by the repukes of the most corrupt administration ever.
I am don’t being nice..so if you don’t like it …TOUGH
“I found them up your chute”
One sentence, three references to the butt. ‘Sup with that?
“Bill did say that we would be better off if he had died did he not?”
No, he asked RHETORICALLY if the world would be better off without Dick Cheney. He never said that he WISHED Cheney had died.
That reading thing, Nathan?
Work on it.
WS
if they read, then their lives woudl be worthless because their totaly existance is based on lies they live for to be spoon fed by their master Rush oxy underage boy lovin limbaugh
Nathan – do you have trouble with reading comprehension? Coulter has stated several times her BS line about Ewards being killed in a terrorist assassination. what part of that comment do you not get?
Coulter says outlandish things and you just continue to support her no matter what she says. Are you that gullible and easily led by someone spewing nothing but hate? If your life that empty that you find pleasure in listening to someone like Coulter spew all her hate?
I just don’t understand people like you. Wake up and smell the coffee. Coulter is using people like you for fools to make her rich.
Whatif,
Where else did she say it?
I don’t understand people like you, who take only a handful of comments out of context to completely mischaracterize someone.
Littlejohn, i’ve been trying to draw distinctions of a sort of “line” regarding the acceptability of what public and non-public figures say.
Others on weblog say worse things than Coulter, it was said.
Jimmy Carter said offensive things about Bush, it was said.
Bill Maher said something just as bad, it was said.
Yet, all of these things listed were said in different context that create a different degree of “freedom” of speech:weblog—high freedom of speech. Non-public figures, no identity disclosure, no power of influence
Jimmy Carter–low freedom of speech. Public figure, great power of influence, status of historic decorum. Crossed th line with recent comments about Bush, IMO, for his position as an unofficial ambassador of the country.
Bill Maher–low-to-moderate freedom of speech. Public figure, some power of influence, status as political satirist allows some comments to be dismissed as intentionally outrageous. Historical precedent: Lenny Bruce, George Carlin. All cross the line for their positions on occasion, and offend. Note that Maher lost his network tv show for some of his comments.
Ann Coulter–Public figure, some power of influence, status as political ???? allows some comments to be dismissed as intentionally outrageous. Got kicked off National Review for statements.
It doesn’t make “anything” Coulter or Maher says acceptable. But you have to admit that the cache of satirist does allow a little more leeway on what is said. Coulter constantly says things that are in poor taste and appears to want people to take her seriously.
Look at who’s making Ann Coulter rich. Look who its keeping her persona in front of everyone and her name on everyone’s lips.
Like her or hate her, ya got to give her credit. The woman has got it working.
Delsol-
I have to agree with most of that. it does indeed make some difference what one’s posiiton is as to where the line is. Coulter crosses it frequently.
Well stated delsol, I’ll leave your commentary as the final word on this topic as more posting would trivialize the obvious you stated.
“I don’t understand people like you, who take only a handful of comments out of context to completely mischaracterize someone.”
How do you “mischaracterize” someone advocating poisoning the coffee of a Supreme Court Justice?
How do you “mischaracterize” someone advocating the killing of liberals?
How are these statements taken out of context?
Let me say first that I’m no fan of Coulter; she’s soulless, she exists to make dollars, and the attention the media pays to her in hating her simply makes her rich. She’s the political equivilaent of Howard Stern, as someone noted.
BUT I’ve been reading this thread in wonder. And a couple of things stuck me:
1) “”Bill did say that we would be better off if he had died did he not?”
No, he asked RHETORICALLY if the world would be better off without Dick Cheney. He never said that he WISHED Cheney had died.”
WS – that’s a distinction without a difference; or so thin a line as one that does not matter. ABout the same as the “if” you routinely ignore in the Coulter line about Edwards you quote so often.
2) leave – HOW is God’s green earth do you decry Coulter’s name calling and in the same breath (or posting, as the case may be) refer to “Rush oxy underage boy lovin limbaugh.” See any similarities there? Hmmm? Glass houses? Stones? Go together?
Good God, folks, the way to beat venom like Coulter’s is NOT to throw more poison. You really want to outsnake a snake?
BTW – Tiahrt’s son’s death was indeed ridiculed on this very blog. The attacker was thoroughly condemned for doing so, by BOTH “sides.” He slunk off, and reappeared some time later with a new nic.
typical repuke strategy
when confronted with truth…claim it was all a joke…
then get outraged at anyone who dare questions you
either that or go shoot someone in the face to scare other people
“ABout the same as the “if” you routinely ignore in the Coulter line about Edwards you quote so often.”
Huh? I have never quoted a Coulter line about Edwards.
As for Maher’s statement – it was clearly a RHETORICAL question, unlike those of Coulter that were clearly not abstract in any way.
And by the way, GMC, Cheney’s approval ratings (sub 20%) are the lowest in history for a sitting Vice President. Clearly most of American thinks we would be better off without him.
I will not apologize. I have learned the hard way to fight fire with fire
I will not change so long as there is still fire to fight
how about rush calling Harry Reid Dingy Harry?
I am through being nice it got us no where
It IS fascinating to see the hard right abandon W. after uncritically supporting the SOB for so long. To be fair some conservatives–like Richard Viguerie–were making noises last year. But these folks were in lockstep w/’ol W. until the 2006 elections.
I guess, like Saddam Hussein, another tool has lost its usefulness.
And Dan “Two A Day” Burton (R – Republican) calling our twice duly elected President a “scumbag?”
Burton earns the “Two A Day” moniker for complaining that the current Democratic Congress is issuing too many subpoenas, while he himself issued more than a thousand (averaging two a day) during the Clinton years.
Oh, yes, Burton was also guilty of cheating on his wife.
Oh, the hypocrisy!!!!!
1. Change the subject: “Delsol said it! Doug said it! Michael Moore! Michael Moore!”
2. Stuff the straw-man: “You’re just attacking me!”
3. Attack on the completely irrelevant conclusion reached upon completing the stuffing noted in (2) above: “You’re a hypocrite!”
I think Elizabeth Edwards did the right thing. She confronted Ann Coulter on public television and denounced her for Coulter’s personal attacks on John Edwards.
Coulter might have just made more enemies last night than supporters by her tacky way of replying to Elizabeth Edwards.
You see, people like Elizabeth Edwards has class and that is something Coulter knows nothing about. And class is something that no amount of money can buy – not even if you’re a Republican.
WS -
RE: your “quote” of Coulter’s line about Edwards – point taken; you’re correct. I was reading from Nathan’s 1:12 response to you.
But calling Maher’s line a rhetorical one, to distinguish it from Coulter’s line in the context in which it was said, is indeed a distinction without a difference, approval ratings (which are absolutely meaningless – you know what I think of polls) notwithstanding.
leave: Rolling in the mud simply leaves both sides dirty. You’ll regret you went there. And claiming the other side did it first died in the 2nd grade as an acceptable excuse.
Don’t say you weren’t warned.
I think this all begs the question: Why are people like Maher and Matthews giving creatures like Coulter _any_ air time at all? By providing her a free forum to spew her vile garbage, aren’t they party to it? I mean, wow, it’s not like they don’t know what they’re getting when they invite her onstage…
Tom-
You know why, ratings, man ratings. Ratings mean money. They know exactly what they are getting. Ratings and money
Nathan,
To a disabled Vietnam vet: “People like you caused us to lose that war.”—MSNBC
“Women like Pamela Harriman and Patricia Duff are basically Anna Nicole Smith from the waist down. Let’s just call it for what it is. They’re whores.”—Salon.com 11/16/00
Juan Gonzales is “Cuba’s answer to Joey Buttafuoco,” a “miscreant,” “sperm-donor,” and a “poor man’s Hugh Hefner.”—Rivera Live 5/1/00
On Princess Diana’s death: “Her children knew she’s sleeping with all these men. That just seems to me, it’s the definition of ‘not a good mother.’ … Is everyone just saying here that it’s okay to ostentatiously have premarital sex in front of your children?”…”[Diana is] an ordinary and pathetic and confessional – I’ve never had bulimia! I’ve never had an affair! I’ve never had a divorce! So I don’t think she’s better than I am.”—MSNBC 9/12/97
“I think there should be a literacy test and a poll tax for people to vote.”—Hannity & Colmes, 8/17/99
“I think [women] should be armed but should not [be allowed to] vote.”—Politically Incorrect, 2/26/01
“I think we had enough laws about the turn-of-the-century. We don’t need any more.” Asked how far back would she go to repeal laws, she replied, “Well, before the New Deal…[The Emancipation Proclamation] would be a good start.”—Politically Incorrect 5/7/97
“If they have the one innocent person who has ever to be put to death this century out of over 7,000, you probably will get a good movie deal out of it.”—MSNBC 7/27/97
“If those kids had been carrying guns they would have gunned down this one [child] gunman. … Don’t pray. Learn to use guns.”—Politically Incorrect, 12/18/97
“The presumption of innocence only means you don’t go right to jail.”—Hannity & Colmes 8/24/01
On Rep. Christopher Shays (d-CT) in deciding whether to run against him as a Libertarian candidate: “I really want to hurt him. I want him to feel pain.”—Hartford Courant 6/25/99
“The swing voters—I like to refer to them as the idiot voters because they don’t have set philosophical principles. You’re either a liberal or you’re a conservative if you have an IQ above a toaster. “—Beyond the News, Fox News Channel, 6/4/00
“My libertarian friends are probably getting a little upset now but I think that’s because they never appreciate the benefits of local fascism.”—MSNBC 2/8/97
“You want to be careful not to become just a blowhard.”—Washington Post 10/16/98
Of course, you will find all of those statements okay because you “know” her.—–
Tom:
Because they feed on each other. It’s not about doing the right thing, or advancing debate, or endlightening the public. For Matthews, Maher, and Coulter, it’s about driving ratings, selling advertising, selling books.
Simply put: they help each other in their primary reason for being: making money. And making money comes first, on ANY side of the political spectrum.
Littlejohn and GMC,
My question was somewhat rhetorical. But even though I know the answer, I STILL have to ask WHY?
Some undoubtedly would state it as a pact with the devil, as in “If I didn;t get ratings, they would cancel my show,if they cancelled my show, I couldn;t get the word out., yada yada yadai see it as they don’t really give a damn about issues, they just want the fame and the money. I’d call them media whores. Emphasis on the last
I’d like to see all the politicians listed on the obituary page.
“I think there should be a literacy test and a poll tax for people to vote.”—Hannity & Colmes, 8/17/99
“I think [women] should be armed but should not [be allowed to] vote.”—Politically Incorrect, 2/26/01
“I think we had enough laws about the turn-of-the-century. We don’t need any more.” Asked how far back would she go to repeal laws, she replied, “Well, before the New Deal…[The Emancipation Proclamation] would be a good start.”—Politically Incorrect 5/7/97
“If those kids had been carrying guns they would have gunned down this one [child] gunman. … Don’t pray. Learn to use guns.”—Politically Incorrect, 12/18/97
I agree with the above Coulterisms. Heck, she would be okay looking if she put a little meat on her bones and got some implants.
Wow…
If my friend had the reasoning ability you liberals here do, he would have jumped off a bridge many years ago.
You could quote me as telling him to “go jump off a bridge”
I have said it many times on numerous occasions.
He still has not done it yet. I wonder why?
Jeez, Nathan that was the dumbest post you have ever made – and you have made some really, really dumb ones.
WS Clark,
Are you still hiding from AIDS?
It can happen to you!
“Are you still hiding from AIDS?”
Nope.
I just get checked periodically and use sensible precautions with a woman until she has been checked out also.
No reason to hide – just use common sense.
Are you still looking for a virgin, Nathan?
Have fun finding one. There are very few under the age of eighteen and I guessing that they are not looking for you.
Boys play rough around here. :)
Sgt. Slaughter has to be Ian.
Go back to “zieg heil”ing in front of your blow-up doll of Hitler.
Freaking nazi . . .
Ron–
Those are the kinds of comments that the Secret Service are very interested in.
It’s not funny to them.
Or to me.
“It’s funny that mAnn Coulter essentially admitted that she couldn’t talk or write without spewing hate speech. Such are the intellectual limitations of conservatives.”
This is true about conservative males. They say dumb crap all the time. But usually conservative women have to fall off the wagon to say crap like Coulter!
Isn’t Coulter a Constitutional Attorney Kev?
How limited is her intellect then Kev?
I don’t approve of her speech, but to make spurious assignments on someone is even more down on the totem pole of character assassination.
Nathan–
When you met Coulter, did you ask her why she has never been married and never had children?
Cause it looks like she hit the snooze button on her biological clock for the last decade . . .
I thought you CONs were all about “protecting marriage” and the traditional American family and no sex outside of a monogamous marriage relationship etc. etc.
Cause I’m looking at never-married anti-feminist Ann Coulter and thrice-married (no kids) drug-addicted Rush Limbaugh, and thrice-married and maybe cheating again Rudy Giuliani, and I’m not seeing it . . .
“Isn’t Coulter a Constitutional Attorney Kev?
How limited is her intellect then Kev?
I don’t approve of her speech, but to make spurious assignments on someone is even more down on the totem pole of character assassination.”
You think being a lawyer makes one smart? It doesn’t. I went to law school with some of the laziest dumbass people I ever knew. Coulter no doubt sat her as at the back of the lecture hall and cowered in fear that the prof might call her to stand and deliver. She wouldn’t know a tort if one hit her in the nose. She could not do a contract for the same of a pile of dog dung. And I doubt the lady has ever even read the Constitution. Maybe the Atlanta Constitution when they publish her most outrageous comments. But, like I said, I am all for her. I hope she keeps speaking out and everytime she does, please remember to title her “Ann Coulter (R)”. In fact I hope she gives a prime time speech that the 2008 Republican Convention. That ought to just about nail the coffin lid on that party!
““We’re all just waiting for this nincompoop to be gone.”
Lest we forget. The name calling Bush has to endure from Coulter is “nincompoop”. That’s harsh.
“Cause I’m looking at never-married anti-feminist Ann Coulter”
Who in the Hell would marry her? I mean, could you see her and one of Pat Robertson’s buddies trying to hump in bed and make some little confused neo cons? Talk about faking it!! Everytime I see the woman I expect her to don a pointed hat and fly off on a broom!
“For Matthews, Maher, and Coulter, it’s about driving ratings, selling advertising, selling books.”
Same for Jerry Springer. But he doesn’t pretend to have any class!
I don’t like Bush at all. I hate what he stands for and consider him an enemy to me and all working people. I also think he is a stupid idiot. But to openly wish for his death? To openly wish for his daughters to die? No, I don’t think so. Not a very Christian thing to do for the party of “family values”.
Here’s the transcript regarding the Bill Maher quote. It was in reference to comments made on Arianna Huffington’s blog that were removed.
Ridley: It’s one thing to say you hate Dick Cheney, which applies to his politics. It’s another thing to say, “I’m sorry he didn’t die in an explosion.” And I think, you know…
Maher: But you should be able to say it. And by the way…
Frank: Excuse me, Bill, but can I ask you a question? Do you decide what the topics are for this show?
Maher: Yeah, I decide the topics, they don’t go there.
Frank: But you exercise control over the show the way that she does over her blog.
Maher: But I have zero doubt that if Dick Cheney was not in power, people wouldn’t be dying needlessly tomorrow. (applause)
Scarborough: If someone on this panel said that they wished that Dick Cheney had been blown up, and you didn’t say…
Frank: I think he did.
Scarborough: Okay. Did you say…
Maher: No, no. I quoted that.
Frank: You don’t believe that?
Maher: I’m just saying if he did die, other people, more people would live. That’s a fact.
http://newsbusters.org/node/11169
There could be a biological reason why mAnn Coulter has no kids, and no spouse… I mean, how many females do YOU know who have an Adam’s Apple??? Try and find out where s/he was born?? Hard to do, cause there seems to be no listing…
y’all might add to that list of reich wingers and family values stuff, the multiple married Glenn Beck, the catholic church avoiding Guilani, the alcoholic background of Glenn Beck, and who knows about the rest of the radio talk bunch… oh, yea, and add Bill O’Reilly, and his phone sex problems… Wonderful family values package there…
How about all of those wonderful “family values” programs back in the TV Golden Age?? Let’s see — Bachelor Father, Courtship of Eddie’s Father, My Three Sons, Bonanza, Big Valley, The Rifleman, Gunsmoke(Town Marshal’s favorite squeeze ran the local whore house), Maverick(a couple of professional gamblers), Partridge Family, Lone Ranger(shot that six shooter all day, and never reloaded), The Odd Couple, Quincy, M.D., Streets of San Francisco(the star was really gay in real life), Elvis Presley(mr. drug kingpin, himself)… I think the point is there…
Check that — not Streets of San Francisco, it was McMillan and Wife… sorry!!
Come on, all you have to do is go to wikipedia to find out about Coulter, and learn that she is a smart, educated woman with two degrees from outstanding schools who thinks that Joe McCarthy was a “great American patriot.”
What else do you need to know? She is a sell-out, a public “criminal” of sorts who steals time from the real issues through constant self-aggrandizement with the most outlandish means possible.
Coulter is making millions off the stupid Republicans who absoutely adore her wit and classless hate-filled spewing with each breath she takes. But then to top it off, these sanctimonious supporters, and Coulter herself, dares to call themselves Christians. That is the height of all hypocrisy. I keep waiting for the day God reaches down and smacks a bunch of people. Now that’s funny!
It is better to at least promote and attempt to attain some level of morality than to simply not care like you liberals do.
“Check that — not Streets of San Francisco, it was McMillan and Wife… sorry!!”
McMillan and Wife was not just a TV show but it was a name that was given to former Chicago Mayor Jane Byrne who was married to Jay McMullian. They were known as “McMullan and Wife” Think it was Mike Royko (a great columinst for the Chicago Sun-Times) that first coined it and it caught on.
Right, Nathan…calling a presidential candidate a “faggot” , calling Joe McCarthy a “patriot” and accusing war veterans of having lost the Vietnam War…promotes what kind of morality?
What kind of morality did the Republican leading candidate for the presidency, Rudy Giuliani, have when he got outraged by a painting of the Virgin Mary at the Brooklyn Museum while with his mistress?
What kind of morality was involved when Bush’s friends at Enron took down an entire corporation through deception and overwhelming greed?
Then there’s Duke Cunningham, Jack Abramoff, and Mark Foley…
You can find examples like this on both sides of the fence, Nathan. Levying the accusation that one party is somehow more “moral” than another is absurd.
It is better to at least promote and attempt to attain some level of morality than to simply not care like you liberals do.
Posted by: Nathan | June 28, 2007 at 12:38 AM
Nathan is this your take on mAnn Coulter?? What drugs did you wake up on besides caffeine??
Ann Coulter, the defender of morality? O-kay, Nathan. Here’s an extended list of Ann Coulter quotes. Would you mind pointing out ANYTHING on this list that could be mistaken as a statement of moral principle?
Coulter attacks. Period. She’s a one-trick pony.__________________________________
Liberals are stalwart defenders of civil liberties – provided we’re only talking about criminals.Ann Coulter
Liberals become indignant when you question their patriotism, but simultaneously work overtime to give terrorists a cushion for the next attack and laugh at dumb Americans who love their country and hate the enemy.Ann Coulter
My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building.Ann Coulter
Taxes are like abortion, and not just because both are grotesque procedures supported by Democrats. You’re for them or against them. Taxes go up or down; government raises taxes or lowers them. But Democrats will not let the words “abortion” or “tax hikes” pass their lips.Ann Coulter
The Democrats have no actual policy proposals of their own unless constant carping counts as a policy.Ann Coulter
The New York Times editorial page is like a Ouija board that has only three answers, no matter what the question. The answers are: higher taxes, more restrictions on political speech and stricter gun control.Ann Coulter
The really amazing part, to me, was when Florida made it into the Final Four, the Democrats didn’t demand a recount.Ann Coulter
They’ve hit us and we’ve got to hit back hard, and I’m not just talking about the terrorists.Ann Coulter
Usually the nonsense liberals spout is kind of cute, but in wartime their instinctive idiocy is life-threatening.Ann Coulter
We don’t want someone who will get 98 percent of the vote. We want someone who will get 51 percent of the vote.Ann Coulter
We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren’t punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That’s war. And this is war.Ann Coulter
We’ve finally given liberals a war against fundamentalism, and they don’t want to fight it. They would, except it would put them on the same side as the United States.Ann Coulter
When we were at peace, Democrats wanted to raise taxes. Now there’s a war, so Democrats want to raise taxes. When there was a surplus, Democrats wanted to raise taxes. Now that there is a mild recession, Democrats want to raise taxes.Ann Coulter
Whenever a liberal begins a statement with ‘I don’t know which is more frightening,’ you know the answer is going to be pretty clear.Ann Coulter
Whether they are defending the Soviet Union or bleating for Saddam Hussein, liberals are always against America. They are either traitors or idiots, and on the matter of America’s self-preservation, the difference is irrelevant.Ann Coulter
While the form of treachery varies slightly from case to case, liberals always manage to take the position that most undermines American security.Ann Coulter———————————-http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/a/ann_coulter.html
“…liberals always manage to take the position that most undermines American security.”
Nail meet head.
Rage,
Those quotes seem to be accurate descriptions of liberals.
How does that say anything about Ann Coulter’s morality?
“It is better to at least promote and attempt to attain some level of morality than to simply not care like you liberals do.
Posted by: Nathan | June 28, 2007 at 12:38 AM
And thus sayeth the moral voice of the WE blog? hehehehehehehehehe!
How many kills of other humans have you chalked up nathan?
Does that give you moral authority?
I’d much rather answer for MY soul than yours if that day comes. My kill total? zero.
And yours?
hee hee hee hee
Nathan agrees with ann coulter and thinks she is accurate.
Let that sink in.
And then contemplate him being the moral authority of the blog. Which translates into ann coulter being the moral authority of the blog.
Just let that sink in and ponder why we are losing in iraq….
Farmgrrl,
I admire & respect you to no end, you know that. But that was really a cheap shot.
KFG,
You think I am the moral authority of the blog?
I am flattered.
I think I am undeserving of the title though.
Q: “Would you mind pointing out ANYTHING on this list that could be mistaken as a statement of moral principle?”
A: “How does that say anything about Ann Coulter’s morality?”
Exactly my point, Nathan.
Tom, I admire and respect you to no end as well.
But I think nathan deserves what he gets here. I think we need to fight these bush bot fires with fires.
On the scale of cheap shots, I dont even come close to nathan.
And I still wonder how many human kills he has. I think that is important to know if he is posing as approving of ann coulter as a moral authority.
I notice he never answered the question.
I like the John Prine song that says “now Jesus dont like killin’ no matter what the reason’s for. And your flag decal wont get you into heaven anymore.”
I’d still rather answer for MY soul than his soul. Like I said, my human kill total is zero.
And his?
KFG,
Before I answer your question, I am still curious as to how many people I may or may not have killed has anything to do with my morality?
Any people I may or may not have killed would have been while serving my country in the Marine Corps.
John Edwards is kinda creepy, even John Kerry thought so at times: http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=21345
Edwards brings up his son’s death ALL the time.
Edwards 2nd largest fundraising event concerned his wife’s cancer.
Edwards biggest fundraising issue is Ann Coulter.
By the way, Edwards channels “blobs of tissue” (Fetuses) in court.
“By the way, Edwards channels “blobs of tissue” (Fetuses) in court.”
Paul, put down the crack pipe!
Saywhat
What I said was TRUE.
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=21345
Please read the Coulter post, and realize nobody denies this point:Edwards won malpractice cases in which he claimed to “channel” babies from the womb.
Yes, doctors make mistakes and should be held accountable. However, many of the cases Edwards won, in the past, he would not win today. Medical science pretty much agrees that the type of injury Edwards claimed is false. The problem is hereditary, not caused by Medical Doctors or Hospitals.Edwards made a career out of claiming Cerebral Palsy, I believe, was caused by bad medicine.And he channeled unborn babies, in court, to make his case.
Edwards the ambulance chaser is a funny dude. The guy claimed that he went to work for a hedge fund to learn about…….POVERTY! mwahahahahahaha
I’d say killing others in war or any situation says a lot about one’s morality.The fifth comandment says “Thou shalt not kill”, I don’t remember a disclaimer going along with that. If you believe that the Ten Comandments are the true word of God, how can you participate in any activity that may result in the death of others?