Sam Brownback, whose past support for comprehensive immigration reform does not go over well among many potential GOP presidential voters, was seen as a surprise “yes” vote Tuesday on the Senate procedural vote on immigration. His campaign office’s clarification, in part: Brownback “voted to bring the bill back to the floor for debate and for amendments to be offered. This does NOT mean that Senator Brownback supports the immigration bill itself — he feels the bill needs to be improved.”
That certainly sounds like the makings of a “no” on today’s test vote.
Meanwhile, on the issue of the senator’s 81 missed votes this year, a Brownback spokesman told Associated Press: “He would try his best to come back for any vote where he was absolutely needed for the outcome.”
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Boy oh boy are the cons hitting the cieling on this one! There were hundreds of them marching around here (Atlanta) yesterday raising hell about it. They might as well get used to the idea that this is going to pass and be signed. Probably next week. The Republicans love corporate America more than they love conservatives. And they are smart enough to recognize that Hispanics are the future of the electorate while WASP neo cons are the past.
This is one big issue in America that Congress has ignored for a long time.
If you care about the rule of law, and do not want Amnesty for somewhere around 20 Million Illegal Aliens, then you better write your Congressman now!
You can quickly get the email address for your Congressmen and send him or her a note with your views by clicking on this link:
http://www.congress.org/congressorg/home
Pretty soon we will mot have to worry about sammy. The way the mexicans multiply they will start taking over all the elected offices in the next thirty years.
Sam, Sam, the Liar-man. You miss 81 votes while trying to improve on your 2% poll rating and say you only get back to the Senate when your vote is needed to determine the outcome. Well, you came back to vote YEA to re-vive the defeated immigration bill and the vote total was 64-35. You want this immigration bill that bad? Even ‘Bush’s rubber-stamp’ Pat voted no.
Sam Brownback is a complete sellout. He needs to be replaced. At this point, I would even take Sebelius, or Jojo the dogfaced boy.
I would like to be able to get by without paying income taxes for several years.
I would like free medical care.
I would like extra free money for food and housing.
I would like not having to follow the law.
Oh wait, I’m an American citizen, only Illegal Aliens get these rights, and then officially forgiven and given Amnesty, meaning they will never be charged for any crimes or back taxes, AND they’ll get citizenship.
And those 1.5 million Legal Immigrants every year, they are just FOOLS for following the law and paying taxes.
Feel sorry for those poor immigrants waiting for years in their home countries for Immigration Services to process their immigration paperwork. The FOOLS should have just came to Mexico and walked right across the border into the USA!
And those 300 million citizens and legal residents of the US, they have to pay their taxes, they have to follow the law, and they have to pay taxes to support the Illegal Aliens.
Dumbshits.
“WASP neo cons”–Kev
Great Kev. Got the name calling and blanket statements right out of the gait. Great job there Kev.
And do you think it is JUST the republican party that thinks this is lunacy? Every single dem thinks this is just the greatest deal in the world?
I don’t know what I was saying a minute ago. I wouldn’t take Sebelius over Brownback, since Sebelius wants to give in-state tuition to illegals. She’s a sellout to this country too. But I would still take Jojo the dogfaced boy over Brownback.
“Boy oh boy are the cons hitting the cieling on this one! There were hundreds of them marching around here (Atlanta) yesterday raising hell about it.”
OH KEV!!So you are not in Wichita and are NOT in Kansas, but you comment on the way the City and State are run???
Get a grip and leave Kansas to the Kansans!
Well Kev true to form today I see. I will be very surprised if that bill receives an affirmative vote today. The cons spoke and loudly. We do that you know. The libs could learn from their example and yell at your do nothing congress. They are great at trying to catch Rove or Cheney doing something wrong but are total failures at legislating.
Wow!! They have the lowest rating (12%) since Gogby starting polling. I think they are going to beat Bush to the bottom.
Thats a great way for the reich wingers to evaluate their president.
They have the lowest rating (12%) since Gogby starting polling. I think they are going to beat Bush to the bottom.Posted by: ksgrm | June 28, 2007 at 08:16 AM
“reich wingers”
Mike = label Monkey
That’s a great way for the Dems to brag about their side – claim the President is a bigger louse then they are.
Both sides SUCK!
We need a new Congress – vote em all out in 2008.
If finding, arresting and deporting 12 million illegal aliens is “impossible”, howza ’bout we get 12 million taxpayers united and refuse to pay taxes? Methinks we would find that possible it is.By Yoda
Well unfortunately Fleetwood, unless you’re self-employed the Feds (and the States) payroll deduct our money before we can even touch it.
We could claim tax exempt status on the W-4, not sure that would work.
I’d be all for some civil disobedience if the words “Equal Justice Under Law” were put on the front of the US Supreme Court Building for no reason at all.
12,13,15, 20 million Illegal Aliens, we don’t even know the number for sure. Amnesty would give SPECIAL RIGHTS to Illegal Aliens – Rights that are not given to US Citizens.
Is that Equal Justice Under Law?
So if we ‘bend the law’ and give criminals (entering the country illegally is breaking the law – read a criminal act) a free pass for entering the country, then I say no more speed limits. No more DUI tickets. What is theft? Certainly not a punishable crime. Screw it, why have ANY laws????
Exactly Sol! Why have any laws?
And if we have some laws enforced, other laws not enforced, some laws enforced on some, but not all, anarchy?
Amensty is certainly far from Equal Justice Under Law.
“I will be very surprised if that bill receives an affirmative vote today.”Posted by: ksgrm | June 28, 2007 at 08:16 AM
I’d be very surprised if it doesn’t pass. Big business wants it….bad. And as we all know, what business wants, they get.
So let’s just forget about being “surprised” and move directly to “outraged”, which is what I’ll be when the Senate passes this steaming pile.
Anybody know the name of a sane Republican that we can now nominate to take the place of sam the sham. Whata total idiot.
David Adkins
David Adkins
Posted by: ksfarmgrrl | June 28, 2007 at 09:52 AM
A quick google search showed very little about him, other than he is a past legislator. Please do tell us more.
Isn’t that Sinbad?
::wink wink::
LJ, he was probably one of the finest state legislators we ever had in Kansas.
And he got RUN out of the kansas republican party. He was left of Gengis Khan ya know…
So… nowadays, sammie only votes when his vote is “necessary” or important?
Hee hee hee hee. Hehehehehehehehh!
That is VERY telling about just how important sam the sham is in D.C. Since he only votes one third of the time now, does that mean he is only “necessary” one third of the time?
Could we just give him one third of his salary then?
Or could we perhaps have a senator with some clout, someone who is relevant more than one third of the time?
Of course not! That would mean the taliban had less influence, and, well, we certainly couldnt have that.
After all, sam is, by his own words, GOD’S senator.
So I guess god only needs him one third of the time?
heheheheheheheheheheh…..
Amnesty for Americans!
Ok, I can go along with the Immigration Bill as long as we give Amnesty to both Illegal Aliens and American Citizens.
Compromise, after all, is sometimes necessary to pass anything through Congress.
Illegal Aliens will get by with just a $5,000 fine, and not have to pay taxes for say, the 6 years they have been here. (12 million Illegals at 1 million new Illegals per year, must mean they have been here for 6 years on average – if you can believe government statistics!)
So what Amnesty will the American Citizens get?
For the next 6 years we will not have to pay any Federal income taxes, Social Security taxes, and State taxes! Oh, instead we must pay a one-time $5,000 fine.
In 2013, we start paying taxes again.
Ok, I can live with that.
And he got RUN out of the kansas republican party. He was left of Gengis Khan ya know…
Posted by: ksfarmgrrl | June 28, 2007 at 10:24 AM
Well then,he can;t be a Republican. Must be a filthy Democrat!! probably an fm listening, long haired, dope smoking, socialist :)
in reality, I would like to know more about him. i will see what Ican find. It is time for some changes in the Republican Party, or a new party, that can be what the conservative or moderate Democrats, and the liberal or moderate Republicans couold agree upon.
David Adkins probably eats of bowl of stem cells for breakfast. Then he goes down to the abortion clinic and passes out doughnuts. For lunch he goes down to the local SRS office and hands out literature on how to beat the system. Mid afternoon he goes and graffiti’s a local church. And by dinner time he is dressed to eat with his homosexual partner.
Sound extreme? Give the righties time to dig it up, or make it up.
“David Adkins probably….”
just as I thought, A long haired, fm listening, dope smoking socialist.
:)
So much for your stupid predictionBrownback sucks.
You gonna follow me around all day LJ picking apart my posts? I have been gone for a few days and come back to a stalker. Thanks, I missed you too.
Any Senator or Congressman that votes/voted or supports this bill needs replaced as soon as possible.
I just hate to say “I told you so” but in this case I love it. Phone calls, letters, emails do work. We need to keep reminding them who they work for in case they forget.
Now lets stay on them until the border is closed.
Paint me Unpatriotic, but America for Americans!
BREAKING NEWS: SENATE BLOCKS BUSH’S IMMIGRATION BILL
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070628/ap_on_go_pr_wh/congress_immigration
Mike-
Sorry to offend you. I wasn;t picking apart anything. Read my upthread posts. I was making jest. I AM interesting in David Adkins. I was following up what I said to Ksfarmgrrl. I didn’t even pay attention to who posted. It was a joke. Just as your post was sarcasm. Or a shot as the “right wing” It didn;t matter which. It fit in with my previous post. Quit being so damn paranoid
Bush will most likely drop securing the border like a hot potaot, bet that was a package deal.
“Bush will most likely drop securing the border like a hot potaot, bet that was a package deal.”
I’d say it like this:
Bush will most likely drop employer sanctions like a hot potato, bet that was a package deal.
You really think he is gonna frown on big businesses and little businesses giving these folks jobs and CREATING the reason for them crossing the boarder?
Hell, it’s big business that wants this bill. You think they want something that will punish them for hiring illegals?
I have some farmland here I’d like to sell you…
Yes, on cnbc they said a defeat of the bill would be a defeat for bush and big bus. (they are synonomous).
Thank you Senate for not voting in favor of this crap.
Actually, I am still not sure what they were voting on figuring that no one has seen what they were voting on…
“bush and big bus. (they are synonomous).”
I’d say it’s also a defeat for the DLC congressional democrats and big bus. (they are synonomous).
“Actually, I am still not sure what they were voting on figuring that no one has seen what they were voting on…”
Sounds like mr. shadow government and no disclosure, dead eye dick, the PRESIDENT of the senate, must have had a hand in HIDING what they were voting on?
I mean, since he is above all the public disclosure laws….
“”WASP neo cons”–Kev
Great Kev. Got the name calling and blanket statements right out of the gait. Great job there Kev.”
What exactly is demeaning in being called a WASP neo con? It stands for White Anglo Saxon Neo Conservative- you know the folks with “W” 2004 stickers on their cars 3 years after the election? On the other hand, if you are one, I won’t try to explain. I mean, if the neo cons cannot figure out it is now 2007 and past 2004 and that the Earth is flat and older than 6000 years… well you get the idea.
KFG,
Yeah the President was pushing for this, but your Democratic Senate was right behind him.
This is hardly a lay the blame soley on the President issue.
The Senate Leader (we have lost the war) was just as shady.
Well good for the republicans in the senate who helped torpedo this piece of crap bill. And note that the majority of democrats supported it.
Seems to me that what is needed here is some sort of bi-partisan commission to examine the entire mess and come up with something that (a) works and (b) is politically palatable.
Unfortunately Bush has chosen to ‘go it alone’ far too long to put anything together like that on such short notice.
Exactly XXX,
There is enough blame to go around on this one.
I think this is an issue which every party was a part of and every party is to blame for.
It was crap.
They ALL tried to dupe us with this one.
“OH KEV!!So you are not in Wichita and are NOT in Kansas, but you comment on the way the City and State are run???
Get a grip and leave Kansas to the Kansans!”
I might be more of a Kansan than you are. I was born there, grew up there, graduated from East HS there. My folks lived there for decades before and they died there. So I may have lived there longer than you have lived there. I may have been born there when you were not. And finally I own 3 duplex apartments there which may be more property than you own there. And I pay property taxes which may be more than you pay there. And I pay income taxes on 5 apartments I rent there (my sister lives in 1 unit for free). So don’t think that just because I am not physically there anymore that I am not a Wichitan.
Including your dear leader…
Kev brings a perspective to local issues that someone who has never been outside os Sedgwick County simply cannot do. I think we should welcome such a perspective. In some ways I do the same; having lived here a bit over 2 decades after having lived elsewhere.
We have both seen things that work and do not work elsewhere and can learn from that. We don’t have to continuously reinvent the wheel.
“Well Kev true to form today I see. I will be very surprised if that bill receives an affirmative vote today. The cons spoke and loudly. We do that you know.”
Look I am not crazy about this bill as written. I am in support of amnesty but only after the govenment gets serious about closing that swiss cheese border and about dealing with businesses that hire these folks harshly. But it is going to pass in one form or another. If not today, next week and if not next week, next year.
http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/28/the-amnesty-cloture-vote-in-order/
Nice, Brownback votes yes in the 1st call and then when he sees the bill is dead in the water he switches to no…..no wonder he is at 1% in the presidential race. If you have the cspan coverage of the vote, you can see him flip plain as day. Way to go Sam “Switch”back!
Seldom are we witnesses to an actual act of cowardly convenience caught on tape.
He is a asshole!
He voted yes, before he voted no. All in a span of 11 minutes. Sam is the GOP’s version of flip-flop Kerry.
http://michellemalkin.com/2007/06/28/a-new-attack-ad-meet-senator-switchback/