People may not like how Sen. Pat Roberts, R-Kan., handled the issue of Saddam Hussein and weapons of mass destruction during his time on the Senate Intelligence Committee, but at least Roberts was among the few senators who read the full 92-page National Intelligence Estimate before voting to go to war. “I thought he had WMD based on the NIE report of 2002,” Roberts recently told the Hill newspaper. Sen. Sam Brownback, R-Kan., said during a recent presidential debate that he didn’t recall reading the full NIE report, but believed he understood the threat from hearings, briefings and the like.
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Whether or not Roberts read it his rubber stamp would still support Bush.
Pat Roberts is just another slick willy politician that is out for himself. But it is the stupid voters in Kansas that will once again re-elect the little bald guy because he may be a crook, but he is their crook.
One of the things I read that was in the conclusion was that there was no hard proof that Saddam had continued in his attempt to gain WMDs. If we are talking about the NIE of 2002.
Pat Roberts traded the lives of our troops, and one trillion in treasure for the farm bill. I guess Kansas will re-elect him for that.
Hey, what about the Phase II report that you promised the American people three years ago, Pat? How come you ran from the Senate Intelligence Committee the minute the Dems controlled the Senate? Didn’t think you could lie and hide anymore?
Pat Roberts also helped delay the NIE report from coming out for over four yeara. I would think it would be hard for him to sleep at night knowing he could have opened his mouth as head of the committe and stopped this terrible war. He would have been a hero for saving 3554 American soliders lives.
….Pat? How come you ran from the Senate Intelligence Committee the minute the Dems controlled the Senate?<
thinkfirst, that seemed kinda fishy to me also. I sure I have more to say of this subject, but I just got up and I’m on my first cup of coffee and my brains not up to 100% yet.
….Pat? How come you ran from the Senate Intelligence Committee the minute the Dems controlled the Senate?<
thinkfirst, that seemed kinda fishy to me also. I sure I have more to say of this subject, but I just got up and I’m on my first cup of coffee and my brains not up to 100% yet.
….Pat? How come you ran from the Senate Intelligence Committee the minute the Dems controlled the Senate?<
thinkfirst, that seemed kinda fishy to me also. I sure I have more to say of this subject, but I just got up and I’m on my first cup of coffee and my brains not up to 100% yet.
Pat “Ol’ Rubberstamp” Roberts completely bought the line that Saddam had WMD’s.
Okay . . .
But how was Saddam going to deliver those weapons?
Apparently they thought that 500 Iraqis were going to get together and throw the stuff at us.
And what about Colin Powell and Condelezza Rice saying that he “was in a box” and “posed no threat to anyone?”
And why was Hans Blix’s inspections called off after just a couple of months . . . as soon as OUR invasion force was ready?
Simply believing that Saddam had WMD’s is not enough. Our leaders 1. have to be sure of it 2. see that WMD’s are a real threat considering that Iraq has never engaged in ANY world-wide terrorism 3. consider the effects of invading and occupying a Middle Eastern country for the better part of a decade.
Nope.
“I was stupid enough to believe the Administration’s lies” is not a good excuse for the debacle we’re in.
Can someone please tell me why my posts are being duplicated? I noticed that there is a 10 minute difference in the post times. Believe me, I’m not doing it on purpose.
Who knows, Delores.
The Eagle is running this thing on the cheap with practically no oversight.
So, who knows . . .
Double posting come from double clicking. That is, instead of waiting on the post, the user double clicks and the post will be stored, posted at a later time.
Click once. Even if it doesn’t show up right away, it will show up eventually.
Yup, Repuke loves this format because users can’t be banned.
Otherwise he would be a tombstone.
Walk on by . . .
Sure users can be banned Capn, I own a Typepad Website. They most likely have the corporate version, I have the professional one.
You’re just mad because you cannot control who says what on this blog.
Just because you don’t like someone’s ideology, opinions or just don’t like them is not sufficient reason to ban them imo.
As I said before, we are the guinea pigs of the WE Eagle. Some days I’m sure they glean some pretty good insights about what directions to take a news story or an editorial.
Other days, they would probably want to sweep the WE Blog under the rug and forget about it.
Self-importance on this Blog is irrelevant. When you step outside of the Blog, you still are who you are. There are no Blog character rankings nor are there contests to see who has the largest virtual influence.
If you want to create an influence, start your own Blog, obtain some followers, advertise it and submit Blog articles to the MSM.
There’s nothing here that will make you a “Rock Star” of blogging. This is not about us, the Bloggers, it’s about Wichita Eagle utilizing this resource as another tool in their journalistic bag.
Stop focusing on the “we” and “them” in the Wichita Eagle blog. The only “we” in this Blog stands for the Wichita Eagle.
“Yup, Repuke loves this format because users can’t be banned.”
But, CapN — Just yesterday Repuke wanted to ban any bloggers on here not from Kansas!! Maybe you missed that one!!
No I didn’t Chas. Shouldn’t you be preaching somewhere?
Perhaps it’s part of your faith Chas to tell lies.
WELL Repuke… If it WASNT YOU, then maybe YOU got trolled… You were griping about “left coasters” writing about Kansas Issues on this Blog… I am not going back through all of yesterdays threads to find it… But it was on YOUR NAME, old chum!!
You ever hear of Vacation Time??
And stop attacking peoples’ FAITH, you nit wit!!!
Pat Roberts has never truly lived in Kansas. His “residence” is a landlocked wheat field. He’s from Ohio just like Sebelius. The corporations that run the American political system pick places like Kansas to run some no-name stooge because they know they can beat practically anyone who’s local. Didn’t Tiahrt move to Goddard from South Dakota about five minutes before filing against Glickman? I’m sure there are others. Yet the people of Kansas never see through this smokescreen. Of course, the lazy, corrupt Kansas news media can’t be bothered with anything more than rewriting press releases. That’s why nobody knows that one representative, one senator, and one governor are owned lock, stock, and barrel by outside interests.
Yes Chas, I was complaining about “left coasters” infiltrating the WE Blog.
Point out where I said they should be banned. I just said I didn’t think they should be posting here and find it extremely odd that they do. Almost creepy in a stalking sort of way.
We Kansans, of course get to comment on what’s around us and involves us.
We just don’t need “border ruffians” like what happened during Bleeding Kansas to come in and stir up trouble.
A lot of the posters here who are Liberal aren’t originally from Kansas or not from Kansas at all and do not know what makes up Kansas values including the what Kansas Liberal Values are.
People outside of Kansas who weren’t raised here, have no clue of what it means to be Kansan. Therefore they add some good things, but when they start assigning values that are not Kansan or never will be Kansan, then they need to leave.
So, if you “foreigners” don’t like my Kansas comments, feel free to get on your virtual plane and fly on out.
Posted by: Republican | June 23, 2007 at 03:29 PM
Now you want to apologize?? or keep on looking like an idiot???
Where in that comment Chas is the word “ban?”
“Now you want to apologize?? or keep on looking like an idiot???”
Rhetorical questions can be funny. Republican thinks he’s brilliant, kinda like a monkey who discovers a new source of food from his ass.
Ummm If you cant figure it out, then maybe YOU “need to leave” or get on your plane and fly on out LOLOL
In other words Chas, you can’t find where I wrote the word ban and are too full of yourself that you screwed up in making that statement.
P.S. — I am sure glad your comments dont represent a majority of Kansans… A whole LOT of folks would leave… LOL
FIRST… I only quoted ONE section… SECOND… “Need to leave” is strong enough implication… THIRD, I never said you used the “word” BAN… But it is clear that is your attitude to those “foreigners” who disagree with your diatribe!!
Republican believes that he owns this blog — and that only he himself represents true Kansas “values” and “mindset”.
Such as stealing nics, and falsely blaming the Sierra Club for the levee failures.http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/05/open_thread_28.html#comment-71041282
And posting Kansas “values” comments,
“Capn just another smear tactician who hopes for a fecal cookie from his Hitlerite Butt buddies.”Posted by: Republican | June 17, 2007 at 07:31 PMhttp://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/06/open_thread_617.html#comment-72987734
“but when they start assigning values that are not Kansan or never will be Kansan, then they need to leave.”
Now, I venture a guess that this quote is a good enough assessment of “ban” to satisfy most Judges in a courtroom… even KS judges…
If “they need to leave” isnt in the same ball park as wanting them “banned” Then you got a thinking problem… Oh excuse me, we already know that!!
Give Republican a break. He lies so often you can’t expect him to keep track of all the lies he spews. And just because he doesn’t know what the concept of banning someone is doesn’t mean he can’t open up a dictionary, he just needs someone to read it to him because he’s intimidated by knowledge.
That’s right left coaster cosmos. Isn’t your home town exciting enough to post on Blogs there?
Or do you patrol the Net like a predator looking for people to stalk?
cosmos is an angel of course, he just calls everyone liars that disagrees with him. Perhaps cosmos should stop using his computer so much, I don’t think he has enough carbon credits in play to counteract his over usage.
OK Doug… guess its time to do a bit of “walking”
But Republican, he didn’t just say you are a liar, he proved it. Now there you go telling lies again. Perhaps you ought to try honesty for once or are you afraid that might disqualify you from being in the Republican party?
Like I said in other threads Chas, I own a TypePad blog just like this. I know what the word ban means and how it applies to Blogs.
It is clear to me Chas, that you don’t have a clue what it means.
Hmmm, if I kick all smokers out of a bar then I’m not really banning them, I’m giving them the freedom of being outside the bar. Or, if I don’t allow women the right to vote I’m not really banning them I’m just allowing them to pursue other options, as long as it isn’t voting.
Anyway you try to spin it it’s still banning. Perhaps you have a different definition than the rest of the English speaking community.
Republican,
You posted another lie — I’m NOT a “left coaster”.
It is clear to you, huh?? Gee, I hope you got a dictionary definition for that one, cause you sure dont GET it… I caught you in a big one, and now, like your Reich Wing buddies, you are trying to talk your way out of it by attempting to screw semantics around to fit your view..
You said very plainly, that if they(non-kansans) cant write things that reflect what YOU understand to be Kansas opinions, and values, then “they need to leave.” NEED TO LEAVE… go away and not return… BAN!!!
I do believe that you could een screw up a wet dream!!!
cosmos,
You will forever be known as a left coaster unless you state clearly where you are posting from.
Of course, you never will because you are afraid and probably ashamed of where you are from.
Now, there ya go Cosmos… How many more can we find???
Republican, nobody cares but you and that really doesn’t matter for anything. Face it, you have been proven to be a liar and you are a habitual liar. You have no credibility. Even if Chas was a coaster (do people but beverages on him?) he is still someone who is capable of understanding the concept of ban which you have yet to manage.
Republican, Cosmos isnt a “left coaster” just because YOU say so… Who the heck do you think you are?? Dick Cheney??? No, dont answer that…
You dont know who ANY of us are on this Blog, unless you have actually met us IN PERSON… Therefore, your statement that Cosmos is a “left coaster” is simply a FALSE STATEMENT…
who gives a shit if he read the memo or not, he is still a disgusting bush licker son of a bitch prick who needs to be kicked out of office
Nice preaching Chas…
Do you spew that kind of hate at your Church you preach at?
I used to ban people way back on Compuserve when I was a Sysop for using inappropriate language after repeated warnings not to do so.
Evidently Chas, you can rationalize anything in your twisted, satanically induced mind as you have just proven for the entire world that’s reading your child-like tantrum.
LMBA… Ooookkkkk LOL
Republican, saying “Dick Cheney” isn’t inappropriate language. Oh my, the brain cells must be dying fast in that noggin’ of his.
I sense frustration from the Lefties today. Perhaps they got some bad news? :)
And just what kind of hate did I supposedly post here??? FIND ONE WORD of hate in what I said… I simply concluded that you made a FALSE STATEMENT about Cosmos…
I think Republican is off his meds because he’s hallucinating again.
It will be ok Chas. Perhaps someday you will see the light and uphold the fairness of treatment towards others as you want to be treated.
Your conduct Chas sure doesn’t look like it now though does it? :)
Doug, I think he read somebody else’s posting, and decided to attach MY name to it…
Chas, that would imply that Republican is a deluded moron and completely incapable of reading whose name is attached to posts. You don’t want to go that far do you? Maybe Republicans meds will kick in and he’ll be a bit more pleasant, or else his mommy will shut off his computer.
“It will be ok Chas. Perhaps someday you will see the light and uphold the fairness of treatment towards others as you want to be treated.”
I already know how to do that…
I believe it is YOU that uses words like “fecal cookie” and “butt buddy” and “satanically induced mind” THOSE are YOUR words, sir, NOT MINE!!! All I said was that you made a FALSE STATEMENT.
And to further answer your statement, YES I would tell somebody in my congregation the same thing if THEY made a false statement of that sort… If I didnt, I wouldnt be much good as a Pastor…
So what kind of church do you preach at Chas? Where is it and what is the name of it?
I need to know this, so I can drive on by. :)
“who gives a shit if he read the memo or not, he is still a disgusting bush licker son of a bitch prick who needs to be kicked out of office
Posted by: leave my body alone | June 24, 2007 at 12:14 PM”
NOW then, Repub… If THIS is what you are attributing to ME as inappropriate language, then you need to do TWO things… FIRST, apologize in the Blog… and SECOND… put on your GOOD pair of reading glasses… LOL
Republican, are you a stalker or something? You want to know what church Chas attends and where he lives. Since it’s clear you aren’t mentally stable it’s wise for Chas to not provide any personal information.
Your memory slipping??? I have said numerous times what denomination I am, and even posted the denomination web site on one of the threads yesterday… However, you do NOT need to know that information…
Well, guess its time for fix dinner… You all have a good day!! You too Repub!! See ya all later on!!
I didn’t attribute leave’s statement to you Chas. Evidently Chas you are reading something into my statements that are not there.
Just like what you think the word ban is, you construe meaning by disassociating reality from your mind.
I feel a song coming on!!!
Repub: Did you, or did you NOT say this: “Do you spew that kind of hate at your Church you preach at?”
WHAT was the “hate” you alleged that I spewed?? There simply wasnt any… Get out the screw driver, man, you got a few loose ones today!!
Roberts claims he read the report.
Really?
Did it say that Saddam and Al Qaeda were linked?
LIE.
Did it say that Saddam had tons and tons of chemical and biological weapons?
LIE.
Did it say that he could deliver those weapons in as little as 45 minutes?
LIE.
Did it say that the only way we could protect ourselves was to “attack them over there so they wouldn’t attack us here?”
LIE.
Did it say that according Richard Pape from the Univ of Chicago (author of “Dying to Kill: The Logic of Suicide Bombers”) the single motivating factor for suicide bombers from Lebanon to Tamil Tigers to Kamikaze pilots to Al Qaeda is a desire to run off occupiers of their homeland?
No. Because that wasn’t a lie.
You have to give credit to Pat Roberts; at least he goes to work, really reads what comes across his desk as compared to Sam Brownback who misses work and obviously does not read up on important paper work like he should be doing.I know that neither one of them are not first class choices but if you had only between the two of them to choose from, which one would you have in office?I would choose the hard worker that is a bumbling idiot rather then the bumbling idiot that doesn’t work.
Wiseman,
At least we here in Kansas are consistent. We vote 100% bumbling idiots into the senate. That’s gotta count for something.
There were so many other senators who didn’t read the entire report and voted for the war like Hillary Clinton. Then there were senators mostly democrats who didn’t read the full report and voted against the war like Boxer. How come no one faults them? They also haven’t read the full report and voted against the war.Also senators who read the full report and voted both for and against the war. What has reading the entire report have to do with anything? Or is the eagle just trying to attack Brownback?
CNN: “‘Chemical Ali’ sentenced to hang.”
Will Pat Roberts and his cohorts hang as well for the chemicals used on the people of Fallujah { phosphorus which burned to the bones of men, women and children }.
{ of course, this was done to help sell democracy }
CNN: “‘Chemical Ali’ sentenced to hang.”
Chemical Ali was using the leftover chemical shell we gave to Saddam, which were used on Iranians.
guys, repukilican can’t help but be a spinner of the truth. He takes his cues from the masters that are occupying OUR white house
amazing how repuke has slipped silently away
Didn’t slink away Chas. I’m just not choosing to fall into the childish name calling that you Lib Dems do everyday.
Once they kill Chemical Ali, he won’t be able to testify at The Hague as to how Dick Cheney and Halliburton sold Iraq the chemicals for chemical weapons.
How conveeenient!
Ummm Repub, YOU sir are the one calling names here today… I am holding off at this point… but, that could always change!!
Be glad chas that you aren’t a Vietnam vet of a member of the Patriot guard cause that would definitely cause Republican to attack you or steal your nic
Hi Clarkie, another one of your nics? :)
Yea, Rev. good thing I didnt make it to Nam, and I dont have a motorcycle anymore!! LOL
Good grief, there he goes again, making strange sassumptions without having any facts…
“amazing how repuke has slipped silently away”Posted by: Chas. | June 24, 2007 at 04:40 PM
“Ummm Repub, YOU sir are the one calling names here today… I am holding off at this point… but, that could always change!!”
Posted by: Chas. | June 24, 2007 at 05:10 PM
Case closed.
Ummmmmm HUH??? oh, it isnt worth it….
Goodness people! Lay off Republican! I just sent him his Doobie hat (remember yesterday? and his suggestion to google ‘doobie’?)
BTW, Republican how about ‘fessing up that heroin/morphine is not the #1 drug killer you claimed yesterday?
Prescription drugs kill over 100,000 every year in the US. Heroin drug deaths are a pittance in comparison!
;>
Right Happy I do remember that line of posts from yesterday… Repub’s entire line of thought on drug deaths was so far off of the real facts, I figured he was watching SciFi Channel or something.
happy,As I said before, it was in Tiahrt’s press release, not my words.
I have seen the distortion and misinformation game you Lib Dems are playing, have fun..I’m off to do other things.
Well, go have fun!!! And check up on your facts before you quote them next time!!
You posted it Republican you own it…see ya later lying hypocrite!
I have seen the distortion and misinformation game you Lib Dems are playing, have fun..I’m off to do other things.
Posted by: Republican | June 24, 2007 at 05:40 PM
My goodness, I do believe that sounds extremely paranoid to me..
P.S. — By the way, Mr. Republican, If you are lumping me in with Lib Dems again, might I remind you that I am NOT a Democrat??
nixon now looks like a choir boy compared to the crooks occupying the WH now. it is really disgusting how they keep committing mroe and more crime. Worse is how the congress is not saying anything and letting them get away with it.
I hate all repukes
Roberts gets credit for reading the NIE, no credit for comprehension, or using other intelligence he surely must have know about to conclude the NIE was representative of the facts.
Pat which parts of Phase Two were you stonewalling on, now that’s a more interesting question, than whether you read the fabricated Bush/Cheney/Chalabi/Curveball report.
Hello everyone!!!Well it’s been a couple of weeks since my last letter to the group. I just want to start off by saying that it has been one of the toughest times of my life and without your prayers I don’t think I would have made it this far. If it hadn’t been for the Lord that’s for sure. Keep your prayers up my friends. The Army is in a reaaly bad spot right now. What we hear our leadership telling the American people isn’t the case at all really. The common line soldier is not being heard. I want you to know the truth. The truth from a soldier from the gound in the middle of Baghdad. We are not making progress. I can tell you from the last time I was here in 05 that we are fighting a whole new beast. Instead of a few individuals from a different land we are now fighting the whole country.
The streets are empty. The people that supported liberty and freedom have long been killed or have moved. I cleared a group of houses the other day that was at least 50% abandoned. The only people that seem to want us here are the people we put in power. How is this a Godly war? How is forcing our way on another country that doesn’t want us here the right answer. Sure the government we put in place needs our help, yet we gave them power for which they aren’t inclined to give up too easily. This county is in the middle of a civil war. They tell us we are on Iraq’s side. Well Iraq wants to be free to fight their own battles, Sunni and Shiite alike.
All this being said it’s not the fight for freedom that upsets me. If I saw citizens dragging terrorists in the streets and wanting Liberty I would gladly give my life for that cause. That is not the case at all. The people keep thier mouth’s shut and therefore the Terrorists leave them alone. Thats all they want anyway.
Well a Army is held together by a “cause” . A cause to hold the soldiers together, a cause to give them some cause for sacrifice. Four of my close friends gave that sacrifice the other day. Death is part of a soldiers life. It is the accepted risk. The price for Liberty. The hardest part has been justifying thier sacrifice. Is so many good many lost worth the freedom of a country who doesn’t really want us here. I say no.
When is this going to stop? When is enough, enough? Please we need your help. The common soldier needs your help. The soldier that signed up to serve and protect his country with no political gain needs your help. The command is not representig the truth. They are representing thier careers. It is costing you your son’s and daughter’s lives. Please stand up and help us. Bring us home!! Bring your sons and daughters home…..it’s time.
I am a believer in my Christ Jesus. I pray everyday that the Lord will bring His wisdom down on the leadership of our country. I believe that these people have seen nothing but violence their entire life. How are we bringing them any difference. Christ looked at the individual. We need to help this country one person at a time with the love of Christ. The Lord will bring His Judgement when the time is right. There are good people here, yet they are ruled by fear. They need Christ’s love.
I dont think they have the burdon of liberty on their hearts yet. You have to want, desire, and yearn for Liberty and be willing and ready to sacrifice everythig for that cause. That is what I don’t see. It has a heavy cost and it cannot be bought by anyone butyourself. Please send this to whomever you please, The county need to know the truth. In fact, please send this out to as many people as you want.
In HimSGT Walker, JasonB CO 1-64 AR BN
Ummmmmm HUH??? oh, it isnt worth it….
Posted by: Chas. | June 24, 2007 at 05:30 PM
Now, you’re getting it, Chas.
I proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that Repuke’s post that “Gore said he invented the internet” was total crap.
You can bet that in two days, Repuke will be repeating his assertion.
Facts don’t matter to it. It exists in a reality-free zone of its own making.
It isn’t worth it.
Walk on by.
Seriously, Capn… there is nothing that can be done about this person, and its attitudes, and smear language?? I consider what he says about my religious leanings libelous… Is there no recourse against it??
What’s sad is Capn doesn’t realize he is irrelevant and no one really cares what he writes because most people think he’s a far left socialistic kook.
He’s right in line with Ed Friedemann and Hurst Wessell as far as extremism goes.
Chas,
When you treat me fairly, I’ll do the same. You have been issuing your spew from day one towards me the moment you “mysteriously” (fister, cough,fister) showed up on this Blog.
NOBODY can treat you fairly — You are a nut case… When you cant deal with facts, you attack a PERSON you dont even know… You throw around your insults, like you own this particular medium… The only way to treat you fairly is to just IGNORE anything you post on here… Which is what I will do…
Fantastic Chas, best news I’ve heard all day.
Remember now, you cannot insinuate, write around, hint or even suggest I’m even here if you are to ignore me.
Unlike the “walk on by” crowd that still acknowledge my existence and have their panties in a wad I’m still here. :)
Oh My Gawd!! Now it even makes up its own rules for what ignore means!!! This is truly an exercise in futility!!
ALERT >> It is possible to take recourse against those who print libelous and obscene comments on a public Blog… I just ran it past Legal, and it CAN be done… So everybody be alerted…
“But how was Saddam going to deliver those weapons?”
Super-sized slingshots and a fleet of rowboats, of course.
“Unlike the “walk on by” crowd that still acknowledge my existence and have their panties in a wad I’m still here. :)”
If only you were worth a panty wad…
Go for it Chas, the law firm I have on retainer has five hundred attorneys. Let’s see who has the bigger one eh?
What NORMAL citizen needs to have a lawyer on retainer?
WS,
Republican reminds me of one of my daughter’s ex-boyfriends, who had his bail bondsman on speed dial. And I know WHY. ;)
What NORMAL citizen needs to have a lawyer on retainer?Posted by: WSClark | June 24, 2007 at 09:14 PM
Those who can afford it WSClark. People will sue just because they think they might get something out of you, even if the lawsuit is frivolous.
Actually, there are moderately priced plans for attorney retainers in all cases. It beats thumbing through the Yellow Pages when you need something done (real estate, Wills, contracts, etc.)
Plus you know who you are dealing with and what their success rate is.
Try and keep up with the real world Clarkie.
And of course a guy like you always needs a good lawyer when you get arrested again for window peeping.
Got a good bondsman on retainer also, ‘blank?
Chas,Arguing with Publican is sorta like arguing with my cat- no matter how well you prove your point, he’s still gonna scratch the furniture!
That’s cute Clarkie, anything to make yourself puffed up and looking good eh?
No wonder you’re an unemployed derelict who sleeps half the day away and accomplishes nothing in life except to feed his warped ego.
God damn, that was funny, ‘blank!
Got anymore, nic stealer?
Clark, I dont believe I mentioned anything about suing anybody up thread, now did I??? I sure cant find it, if I did… Must be in somebody’s imagination!! Of course, earlier, SOMEbody tried to claim that YOU were a poster named Rev Jim, too… Now, THAT was funny!!
Chas: You cannot argue with the irrational, anymore than you can pretend that it is still dark when the Great Light returns in the morning.
WSClark: How long will you allow someone to hit you with poison arrows, before you strike back in self defense?
Republican: It is never a good thing to keep all of your poison arrows with you at the same time. For, if you do, you will surely step on one, and be extinguished by your own poison.