Thompson ready to run

Fred Thompson asked to be let out of his "Law and Order" duties Wednesday, seemingly a sign that the former Tennessee senator will bring to 11 the number of white men running for the GOP presidential nomination. Fittingly, a Thompson spokesman said, "Stay tuned." Some see Ronald Reagan in his style and ideology, but conservatives could cool when they look harder at his eight-year Senate record (including support for campaign-finance reform and a vote against impeaching Bill Clinton). He also has been divorced, and has a second wife 25 years his junior.
Posted by Rhonda Holman

100 Comments

  1. Ben
    Posted May 31, 2007 at 12:59 pm | Permalink

    Thompson would be a fresh addition to the field. One big downside – they will have to take his Law/Order episodes off the air. I would miss those.

  2. Posted May 31, 2007 at 1:03 pm | Permalink

    I can see and hear all the MSM the sound bytes now -

    It will start with Law and Order style lettering and have that two note sound that is infamously linked to the TV series by the same name.

    deemp deemp

  3. Heckler
    Posted May 31, 2007 at 1:15 pm | Permalink

    Thompson/Bolton 08!!

  4. MPS
    Posted May 31, 2007 at 1:18 pm | Permalink

    What’s the point? Mit Romney is The Chosen One.

  5. Mike
    Posted May 31, 2007 at 1:18 pm | Permalink

    He has failed the GOP with that vote against impeaching Clinton. His senate record is questionable at best. Plus, he is a moderate against abortion. He has been married mulitple times and seems to like young girls. We will see if he can pull off a “double Guantanamo” or see if he injects….”looking for Jack Bauer” reference into the next debate. The GOP has found the country they wish to run….sadly its fictional.

  6. Dennis
    Posted May 31, 2007 at 1:33 pm | Permalink

    And he’s an actor!!

    For heaven’s sake, remember the furball that was the Reagan administration.

  7. Mike
    Posted May 31, 2007 at 1:49 pm | Permalink

    Reagan the creator of “trickle down economics”. Except the trickle stopped at the top and urban decay was so bad that cities like Detroit feel into ruins. Just what we need….and actor playing the role of president.

  8. Nathan
    Posted May 31, 2007 at 1:54 pm | Permalink

    I love how whenever a Republican runs the first thing we hear is how many times he was married and how old his wife is.

    I also like the 11 white men jab too.

    No bias here. Nope, none at all.

  9. Posted May 31, 2007 at 1:59 pm | Permalink

    Thompson will be hated by Republicans because they are so sick of people from Hollywood getting involved in politics.

    Whoops, that only applies to liberals. I forgot about the typical Republican double standard.

  10. GMC70
    Posted May 31, 2007 at 2:03 pm | Permalink

    He’s had the luxury, so far, of being the candidate people wish for when they survey the current field and don’t particularly like anyone. He’s a lot more than an actor, of course, and the lefty posters here know that, but they’ll ride that horse as long as they can.

    We’ll see how he holds up when he’s a real candidate, subject to the nastiness of the campaign on the ground, not looking in from outside.

    And how many times he’s been married, the age of his wife, is relevant exactly how???

  11. Mike
    Posted May 31, 2007 at 2:09 pm | Permalink

    About as relevant as how much John Edwards spends on a haircut GMC. Your party is the party of morality, and they bring it up on every occasion. There is an old saying that I am sure you are familiar with….”people that live in glass houses”. You can’t claim the moral highground if you can’t prove that you walk it. If reich wingers weren’t so damn hypocritical and stop playing to the religious nut balls then it would go away.

  12. GMC70
    Posted May 31, 2007 at 2:13 pm | Permalink

    “reich wingers”

    drop the ad hominum nonsense, and I’ll respond to you. Otherwise, I’ll give your comments the attention they deserve.

    None.

  13. Posted May 31, 2007 at 2:24 pm | Permalink

    Cool.

    If I use “reich-winger” all the time will you stop responding to my posts, GMC?

    Promise?

  14. Mike
    Posted May 31, 2007 at 2:27 pm | Permalink

    GMCDo you feel that I somehow discredit your argument by using the term “reich winger”?

    If so let me rephrase….My dearest GMCPer your comment on WEBlog on May 31st at 2:03pm I will take great exception to that statement. I believe that Mr Thompson is being unfairly judged. Alot like the fine presidential candidate John Edwards. Recently, the supporters of the Grand ol’ Party criticized how much he spent on his latest coiffure. I found that to be dispicable. Lately, this irrelevance seems to be on both sides of the political arena. Somehow the Grand ol’ Party has affiliated themselves with the highly religious and allowed religion to creep into politics. I find this to be in conflict with the Constitution(seperating church and state)and the hypocrisy of pointing out how much someone pays for grooming seems just as laughable as how many times someone is married. Maybe if those fine people that subscribe to the Grand ol’ Parties rhetoric changed their mud slinging strategies then maybe the other side would refrain as well. I ask you Mr GMC to consider this when asking how relevant someone’s personal life is to the country. I appreciate your time and consideration of my post.

  15. Posted May 31, 2007 at 2:28 pm | Permalink

    Mike, if the worst thing you can say about Edwards is that he gets haircuts then he’ll be the best President.

  16. outlander
    Posted May 31, 2007 at 2:29 pm | Permalink

    If conservatives ever stoop to the point of being as deliberately insulting as Capn, what should we call the left wing?

  17. Scott
    Posted May 31, 2007 at 2:31 pm | Permalink

    Typical right wing hypocrisy. When you make the supposed superior morality of the members of your party part of the platform and a centerpiece of every campaign, you cannot be surprised or offended when someone points out that the leaders of the GOP don’t live up to the lofty standards that they preach about. It is relevant that the party sworn to protect the sanctity of marriage from the immoral homosexual hordes has chosen to pick leaders that have been unable to live up to the vows they made to their own wives.

  18. Jed
    Posted May 31, 2007 at 2:39 pm | Permalink

    We’ve already tried the model of writing a fictional presidency, and hiring an actor to portray him. It works well in concept, but the key is finding the right lead. How about Mel Gibson; he could suffer for us all. Or maybe we need a lip factor to control congress and foreign policy- think Whoopi Goldberg. George Clooney certainly looks presidential, but may be typecast too much by his criminal past as Danny Ocean. Steven Segal has a tough image, but can he act?Any other suggestions?

  19. Mike
    Posted May 31, 2007 at 2:40 pm | Permalink

    Read the upthread Doug. I am not a supporter of the GOP. And my last post was to appeal to the compassionate side of GMC. If you use words they don’t like….they go poopy in their pants. Remember this when speaking to a conservative. Speak slowly and don’t use words that make them go “poopy” or they won’t talk to you.

  20. Mike
    Posted May 31, 2007 at 2:44 pm | Permalink

    Just some insight to how republicans think. The liberals are controlled by hollyweird(yet they have the actor running for president). I don’t believe in evolution(until they are sitting in an emergency room….then they pray Darwin was right). We are the “moral majority”(yet they have multiple wives and are sexually emailing 17yr old boys). We hate gays(except the ones in our family). We hate illegals(except for the ones that work for me)

  21. steve
    Posted May 31, 2007 at 3:11 pm | Permalink

    “Thompson Ready to Run.” Kind of fall into the Sooo? category with me.

  22. SolDevVB
    Posted May 31, 2007 at 3:25 pm | Permalink

    Mike,

    Forgive my ignorance please, but I don’t get this….

    “I don’t believe in evolution(until they are sitting in an emergency room….then they pray Darwin was right).”

  23. Mike
    Posted May 31, 2007 at 4:03 pm | Permalink

    You are forgiven for being ignorant Sol.

    Like I said, republicans don’t believe in evolution…..until they are sitting in an emergency room….then they pray that Darwin was right. See now? They pray hoping that the scientist that holds their life in his hands really did study Darwin while in medical school. So that he may heal them.

  24. Hank Price
    Posted May 31, 2007 at 4:20 pm | Permalink

    I’m wondering how studying or believing in evolution has anything to do with a medical education.

    Can you please explain? Because I know some very competent surgeons and MDs that are creationists.

    Hank

  25. Hank Price
    Posted May 31, 2007 at 4:25 pm | Permalink

    Also, the evolution/creation issue has nothing to do with republicans/democrats; or with conservatives/liberals. It has to do with faith in God vs. faith in science.

    The rock my faith is built on has not changed in over 2,000 years. Science is constantly changing and revising its understanding of the world. Which is good, however, because it is constantly changing I can’t put much faith in its understanding of the world currently.

    Hank

  26. Brian
    Posted May 31, 2007 at 4:27 pm | Permalink

    Thompson may be popular due to his acting, but I think he is a mediocre candidate at best. I feel that the republicans would be best served by nominating Ron Paul. His record is much better than Thompson’s when you compare the two.

  27. Mike
    Posted May 31, 2007 at 4:31 pm | Permalink

    Yeah but they studied Darwin to become physicians. Show me a doctor or surgeon that did not study Darwin and I will show you someone that is not a liar.

  28. Mike
    Posted May 31, 2007 at 4:32 pm | Permalink

    I meant is a liar.

  29. Posted May 31, 2007 at 4:39 pm | Permalink

    I wonder if Liberal Democrats plead to Darwin when they are on their death beds? :)

  30. steve
    Posted May 31, 2007 at 5:00 pm | Permalink

    “It has to do with faith in God vs. faith in science. “Incorrect statement, may who believe can reconcile the two. Faith and Science need not be opposites.

  31. Hank Price
    Posted May 31, 2007 at 5:01 pm | Permalink

    Actually Mike,

    There is very little in text books about Darwin. Just because they studied Darwin doesn’t make the study of evolution relevent to medicine. It is mandatory for anyone that makes it to medical school to have at least two years of a foriegn language too.

    Again I ask, if I’m scheduled for surgery, why should I “. . .pray that Darwin was right.”? What does evolution have to do with the study of medicine? How does it make a surgeon more competent?

    Hank

  32. Hank Price
    Posted May 31, 2007 at 5:05 pm | Permalink

    I don’t believe it is necessary to study about Darwin to be a surgeon. I’m sure that there are many surgeons that are creationists.

    I would pray that my surgeon had an unshakable belief in God. I would pray that his faith in God guided him through his daily life.

    As a fundemental Christian I could care less if he had an understanding of Darwinism or evolution or what ever the scientists want to call their denial of God’s creation!

    Hank

  33. littlejohn
    Posted May 31, 2007 at 5:12 pm | Permalink

    I really don;t care if my surgeon or my doctor in an emergency room has studied Darwin or not. I doubt very much Darwinism is studied in Medical School. Pre-med maybe, but I rather doubt medical school has much emphasis on evolutionary science. I also really don;t care if they have an unshakable belief in God either. THat is not a necessary requisite . It might be nice, but not necessary. I have had family members that had operaitons by doctors that were Hindu, CHristian, and unknown. Didn;t see much difference in how they cared formy family member.I care about their integrity,and their ability. Period.

  34. Hank Price
    Posted May 31, 2007 at 5:17 pm | Permalink

    Hey steve,

    “. . . ma(n)y who believe can reconcile the two. Faith and Science need not be opposites.”

    I fully agrree! I know many Christians that have faith in science. I know many very good Christians that aren’t creationists.

    I don’t really put too much importance on the requirement to believe in creation for your salvation. I do believe in creation because it is entirely logical to me. It’s part of my faith. That’s why I wrote, “. . .the evolution/creation issue has nothing to do with republicans/democrats; or with conservatives/liberals. It has to do with faith in God vs. faith in science.

    I know a lot of Christians that are democrats. I assume many of them believe in creation. (since polls generally indicate that 50% of Americans believe in creation) I also know a lot of liberals that are very good Christians and I assume also that many believe in creation.

    My statement was merely to make the point that creation is not the property of repubicans. Nor is it the property of conservatives.

    Hank

  35. GMC70
    Posted May 31, 2007 at 5:18 pm | Permalink

    Mike

    While “smart ass” migh be an improvement over ad hominum, it’s not much. It did eat up at least a few minutes of your time, so it has some value. It escapes me, however, how someone can write generally so coherently and yet continue to prove Godwin’s Law right.

    I’ve said before, and will again. Comparing anyone in the mainstream of American politics to fascism only shows that the writer either has no understanding of the mainstream of American politics or fascism, or both. The same would go with communism, at least as practiced Soviet style.

    So let’s simply drop the meaningless drivel and get to it, huh? You don’t like Thompson.

    OK

    No, I don’t think I care how much Edwards pays for a haircut, but the video of him carefully arranging his locks is rather amusing, you gotta admit. And if presidential candidates serve no other purpose, they are fodder for wisecracks. If Thompson similarly spends an exorbitant amount of time arranging his hair, I promise to be similarly amused.

  36. GMC70
    Posted May 31, 2007 at 5:24 pm | Permalink

    And BTW, the “reich winger” comment does no discredit to my position.

    It damages yours, however.

    Just friendly advice. While Capn can be a bright and articulate guy, his cheap and meaningless insults do nothing to add to his credibility. As a general rule, beginning a post with “reich winger” or something similar often relegates it to scroll-by territory, as the writer often (though not always) has simply signaled he has nothing to offer but labels and insults.

    You sure you wanna go down that road?

  37. outlander
    Posted May 31, 2007 at 5:26 pm | Permalink

    Darwinian evolutionary theory or the “theory of Common Descent” has little, if any practical application. You indeed can be a neuro-surgeon or just about anything else you can name and disbelieve Darwinian theory. Because it has no application to what you are doing.

    Makes you wonder why it is pushed so much in the science education agenda. The reason, I suspect, is more indoctrination than anything else.

  38. Max
    Posted May 31, 2007 at 5:47 pm | Permalink

    One word about Thompson running for POTUS: YES!!!!

    Contrary to those who say he’s just an actor (so was Reagan before he was Governor and President, and so was Scharzenager before he was Governor) Thompson’s record as US Senator is clearly conservative. Not Republican necessarily, but conservative.

    http://votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=22003

    http://www.issues2000.org/Fred_Thompson.htm

  39. BFAH
    Posted May 31, 2007 at 5:50 pm | Permalink

    Common descent theory has no practical uses?

    * Bioinformatics, a multi-billion-dollar industry, consists largely of the comparison of genetic sequences. Descent with modification is one of its most basic assumptions.* Diseases and pests evolve resistance to the drugs and pesticides we use against them. Evolutionary theory is used in the field of resistance management in both medicine and agriculture (Bull and Wichman 2001).* Evolutionary theory is used to manage fisheries for greater yields (Conover and Munch 2002).* Artificial selection has been used since prehistory, but it has become much more efficient with the addition of quantitative trait locus mapping.* Knowledge of the evolution of parasite virulence in human populations can help guide public health policy (Galvani 2003).* Sex allocation theory, based on evolution theory, was used to predict conditions under which the highly endangered kakapo bird would produce more female offspring, which retrieved it from the brink of extinction (Sutherland 2002).

    http://www.talkorigins.com

  40. Kev
    Posted May 31, 2007 at 5:55 pm | Permalink

    This man is a piece of work too. Like all Repukes, he married in 1957 to a loving caring wife who bore his children and was faithful to him for almost 30 years. But like all people, she aged and he one day decided she was now too old and too ugly for him so he left her and married some bimbo 25 years younger than he is. That doesn’t quite make him as Republican as Newt but still he is doing well as a Repuke- you know- the party of “family values”.

  41. outlander
    Posted May 31, 2007 at 5:55 pm | Permalink

    I tried. Honest, I tried to make it clear. But for some some people just cannot separate micro-evolution from Darwinian theory/Common descent.

    Everyone knows that there are small genetic changes, almost always within species.

  42. Kev
    Posted May 31, 2007 at 6:00 pm | Permalink

    Mike,OKMike,OK here goes; I believe God created everything. I also believe in science. So let’s get to it. In the string theory, how do strings defy spacetime? Are strings measured and calculated in 2d, 3d, or 4d.I have a computer science degree. I believe in bits and bytes and know how to manipulate them. Would you care to discuss load balancing on a multi-processor/multi-core server farm?I believe in reducing carbon foot prints. Would you care to discuss methodologies for reducing the footprint of datacenters, the cooling of data centers, and reducing power consumption of data centers?

    Believing in God and all the trappings that go with said beliefs does not limit ones ability to understand or embrace science or logic.—–
    “Thompson would be a fresh addition to the field. One big downside – they will have to take his Law/Order episodes off the air. I would miss those.”

    Actually I heard on the radio that they may NOT have to take the Law and Order shows off because of a technicality. Apparently when Thompson joined the Actors Guild, there was already a registered actor named Fred Thompson and the guild prohibits any member with the same name as another member. So Thompson’s screen acting name is “Fred Dalton Thompson”. If he files and runs as simply “Fred Thompson”, they may not legally have to remove the episodes from air.

  43. cat
    Posted May 31, 2007 at 6:01 pm | Permalink

    Nathan – Republicans were the first to make a president’s personal life open to the public. Remember Newt and his Contract ON America cohorts against Bill Clinton?

    If it was not for the just as moral-lacking Newt and the Boys, Clinton’s personal life would have NEVER been an issue. It was YOUR boy, Newt, that led that charge.

    After all, if Fred Thompson’s personal life cannot stand the scrutiny of the moral sunlight, then maybe he needs to reconsider running for president.

    And I have to agree, the last thing this country needs is another B-movie actor like Reagan.

  44. Max
    Posted May 31, 2007 at 6:02 pm | Permalink

    And you can see from the link below, that he has balls and a sense of humor. Plus, there’s no way he spends $400 on any haircut!

    http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=611

    IF he’s a dirty ole man that likes to run around with younger women – that should appeal to you Bill Clinton fans!

    Only Bill has the morality to stick with his ‘marriage’ and screw around on the side – course if the alternative was Hillary, who can blame him!

    With experience like this, looks like Fred Thompson can relate to a broad spectrum of America:

    Experience:US SenatorPracticing Attorney, 1967-1994ActorAuthor ‘At That Point in Time’Factory WorkerShoe SalesmanTruck Driver

    All the qualities you LIBS are afraid of the most! Yet you’ll attack him using moral standards you don’t expect of your own candidates! Hypocrites!

  45. WSClark
    Posted May 31, 2007 at 6:03 pm | Permalink

    Mr. DevVB, I thought you were leaving and I shouldn’t address you any longer. Did you come back for more?

  46. cat
    Posted May 31, 2007 at 6:07 pm | Permalink

    Hypocrits are on both sides of the aisle Max. It was the Republicans that profess to be the party of God and have the higher moral ground. You know, things like integrity and honesty. Now that’s a laugh.

  47. SolDevVB
    Posted May 31, 2007 at 7:29 pm | Permalink

    WS Klanner.Howdy. I left work and came home. Would you like to debate faith in God and the passion of science as well. I think you will find yourself out of your depth with quickness. But then again, your denial of your racism betrays that already doesn’t it.

    So I state the same challenge to you WS-Klanner. Would you like to discuss the string theory, data center management, or manipulation of bits and bytes over the wire?

  48. WSClark
    Posted May 31, 2007 at 7:32 pm | Permalink

    I thought the thread was about Fred Thompson, Mr. DevVB – was I wrong?

  49. SolDevVB
    Posted May 31, 2007 at 7:37 pm | Permalink

    Mr. DevVB, I thought you were leaving and I shouldn’t address you any longer. Did you come back for more?———————————-Posted by: WSClark | May 31, 2007 at 06:03 PM

    You responded to a post not directed at you. You took up the challenge. If you can’t respond to a post – one more time for the SHORT BUS riders, don’t respond.

  50. SolDevVB
    Posted May 31, 2007 at 7:59 pm | Permalink

    awwwww, did WS_Klanner go to bed early? You must have made Mom mad. Poor little WS_Klanner. Did she let you wear your favorite sheet to bed?

  51. Kev
    Posted May 31, 2007 at 8:05 pm | Permalink

    Excuse me but us LIBS never said we are the “party of family values” yet all of our major candidates have been married only once and are still married to the person! Yet the party of “family values” is running candidates that are divorced, had affairs and probably raped a boy or 2 along the way!

  52. SolDevVB
    Posted May 31, 2007 at 8:40 pm | Permalink

    Nighty night WS-Klanster. Racist pig

  53. WSClark
    Posted May 31, 2007 at 8:47 pm | Permalink

    I’m still here, Solly…..

    But I would still like to know who you were referring to as “hand out monkies?” (sic)

    It’s an easy question….

  54. Max
    Posted May 31, 2007 at 9:36 pm | Permalink

    Cat/Kev, that’s right, please forgive me, the Dems NEVER claimed to be the party of moral values, so your side doesn’t have to have any moral standards.

    Ok, fine with me. Now, just what the H do the Dem’s stand for?

    I bet you can’t name 3 top priority issues and your Dem’s position on those issues, for any of the Dem candidates that makes you proud to be on their side!

    Oh, yah, and the Clintons are still married! Reminds me of Ozzy and Harriet! The perfect couple!

    Not sure whether to admire Hillary for holding on as much as she can to that hunk of a ‘man’ she married (she wouldn’t have been elected as dog catcher without Bill) in spite of his faults (even if she has to share him!) or whether to wonder how she could stand up for the country when she can’t stand up to Bill.

    Will Hillary be able to stand up to Putin in Russia, or Ahmadinejad in Iran, or Kim Jong in North Korea, etc….

    No, that doesn’t matter, she’ll just hide behind the UN and let the UN defend America.

    You Dems and your moral hypocracy! Your only means of defending your party is to attack the other side! Remember, that approach didn’t work for Al or John.

  55. Max
    Posted May 31, 2007 at 9:38 pm | Permalink

    And 1/2 of you Dems are divorced! So go ahead and attack every divorced Republican candidate for doing the same thing you’ve done!

    Good grief Charlie Brown!

  56. WSClark
    Posted May 31, 2007 at 11:01 pm | Permalink

    Jeez, Max, of the top Dems, Hillary, Barack and John, all are still married to their first spouse.

    Now, lets check on the Republicans… McCain, wife number two, Guiliani, wife number three, Romney, just one wife so far, Gingrich, wife three and counting, Fred Thompson, one real wife and one trophy wife.

    Any questions?

  57. Posted May 31, 2007 at 11:56 pm | Permalink

    Having Thompson and McCain in the race might make campaign finance a central issue in this, our first billion dollar campaign.

  58. GMC70
    Posted June 1, 2007 at 12:04 am | Permalink

    WS

    Once again – that is relevant just how?

  59. Jed
    Posted June 1, 2007 at 12:09 am | Permalink

    Hank,Whether or not Darwin is particularly relevant to whatever operation I’m having, I certainly want a surgeon who’s well grounded in science. Should something go wrong in the middle of it, I would rather have somebody capable of figuring out what to do, not some creationist dolt who has to pray for a miracle!

  60. Steven Davis
    Posted June 1, 2007 at 12:28 am | Permalink

    “I tried. Honest, I tried to make it clear. But for some some people just cannot separate micro-evolution from Darwinian theory/Common descent.

    “Everyone knows that there are small genetic changes, almost always within species.

    “Posted by: outlander | May 31, 2007 at 05:55 PM”

    come on, Mike, using the word “honest” in any of your posts is a great disgrace, and I know you know it. I am sorry you can’t accept the truth of scientific data, but that does not mean that it is refuted – except in your mind, which of course, means pretty much nothing in the whole scope of things.

    I have met you. I think you are a decent guy, but you are just way off in what you try to claim on this subject.

    Be honest, for once, and admit you have no clue as what you are talking about.

    Thank you.

  61. Posted June 1, 2007 at 12:51 am | Permalink

    Awaits Steven Davis’ credentials on Darwinian Evolution…

  62. Kev
    Posted June 1, 2007 at 6:08 am | Permalink

    Romney does not have to get a divorce to have more than one wife! He is a Mormon and I think they are allowed up to 5! Maybe we will have a First Lady, Second lady and Third Lady!

    “Now, lets check on the Republicans… McCain, wife number two, Guiliani, wife number three, Romney, just one wife so far, Gingrich, wife three and counting, Fred Thompson, one real wife and one trophy wife.”

  63. Hank Price
    Posted June 1, 2007 at 6:30 am | Permalink

    Actually Jed,

    A surgeon doesn’t need to know much of anything. Least of all science! Good surgery is based on skill, not knowledge.

    A surgeon is supported by many people and amazing equipment in the operating room today. Hell, if you get a new knee or hip chances are the salesman will do a lot of the surgery.

    No, Jed, you and others can fool yourselves with the importance of Darwinian evolution, or what ever your current name of choice is, but it’s not really relevent to anything. Surgery and modern medicine the least of things.

    Hank

  64. Hank Price
    Posted June 1, 2007 at 6:39 am | Permalink

    Actually Jed,

    A surgeon doesn’t need to know much of anything. Least of all science! Good surgery is based on skill, not knowledge.

    A surgeon is supported by many people and amazing equipment in the operating room today. Hell, if you get a new knee or hip chances are the salesman will do a lot of the surgery.

    No, Jed, you and others can fool yourselves with the importance of Darwinian evolution, or what ever your current name of choice is, but it’s not really relevent to anything. Surgery and modern medicine the least of things.

    Hank

  65. SolDevVB
    Posted June 1, 2007 at 7:17 am | Permalink

    I am a creationist and once again, that does not mean I believe in science. What an idiotic leap between the two. I also do not believe the young earth theory.

    And a doctor HAS to believe in the evolution THEORY to be good? That is an even MORE idiotic link. Y’all aren’t doing much for your side…

  66. outlander
    Posted June 1, 2007 at 8:08 am | Permalink

    Steven: I can say one thing positive about you. You are polite while insulting people.

    You can save the condescending BS.

  67. Posted June 1, 2007 at 10:08 am | Permalink

    http://www.gophypocrites.com/2007/06/hyp07022.html

    DESPERATE REPUBES PUT IN A CALL TO CENTRAL CASTING

    Well, the Republicans appear to have found their latest “Great White Dope” to field for president: Fred Thompson.

    Ronald Reagan taught the GOP what a B-actor can do for playing the part of a candidate and then acting the role of president for 8 years. Then they got Arnie elected in California, even though his claim to fame was a movie role called “The Terminator” and his sexual harassment of women. Come to mention it, he also starred in a film that could be the Republican motto of sorts: “True Lies.”

    So given a field of flawed candidates for the presidency, the fixers and money men behind the GOP one-party rule machine have made a casting call to — Gasp! — Hollywood. They want that “Law and Order” guy to come to the rescue.

    Thompson has his “common man” PR stunts down to a science, including a made for press photo-op “red pickup truck.” This is a guy who favors limos and a young second wife more than 20 years his junior. Just like Newt’s third wife.

  68. Max
    Posted June 1, 2007 at 11:53 am | Permalink

    GMC, the Dems can’t answer basic questions. No point in asking more then 10 times or so.

    1)Relevency of their divorce arguments?

    2)What does the Dem party stand for?

    3)What 3 specific positions on the issues makes the Dem’s proud to support their candidate?

    Instead you get rants about actors, divorce, and other such non-issues. Or they answer a question with the same question, since they have no answers. They don’t even KNOW the positions of their candidates on the issues! They can not even name 3.

    And go ahead and bring up Iraq, but leave the what-ifs from the past out of the debate. We can’t change the past – what action in Iraq will your boy (or gal) take as commander in chief of the USA? Surrender? They sure as H can’t stand and fight for anything not on their anti-American Socialist agenda.

    After America surrenders and withdraws from Iraq, will it be acceeptable to:

    1)Have 1 million plus Iraqis killed in the regional/civil war that will follow?

    2)Have oil supplies from the mideast cut-off to the point of mandatory gas rationing of $8/gal gasoline in the US?

    3)Watch the American economy collapse due to double digit inflation followed by double digit unemployment? (Hey Dems, at least your global warming goals of reducing carbon immisions will be met!)

    4)Have Iran/Syria divide up Iraqi territory and claim it for themselves?

    5)Watch as Iran drops nukes on Israel?

    6)Watch and do nothing as the extremist terrorists groups strike next on American soil, this time with a nuke?

  69. WSClark
    Posted June 1, 2007 at 12:32 pm | Permalink

    Jeez, Max, all of that could have been avoided if we had just stayed in Afghanistan where the REAL terrorists were headquartered.

    And to think that this was all predicted by the Left and the US intelligence agencies.

  70. SolDevVB
    Posted June 1, 2007 at 12:36 pm | Permalink

    Max,

    And right on cue, WS cements your statement —

    “And go ahead and bring up Iraq, but leave the what-ifs from the past out of the debate. We can’t change the past – what action in Iraq will your boy (or gal) take as commander in chief of the USA?”

  71. Max
    Posted June 1, 2007 at 1:14 pm | Permalink

    Yup. Very predictable, aren’t they SolDev?

  72. SolDevVB
    Posted June 1, 2007 at 1:26 pm | Permalink

    Max, you want to see something funny? Check out the bottom of the thread for Sebelius did not listen to jazz.

    Great for a laugh and to watch – a poster – twisting in his own juices.

  73. WSClark
    Posted June 1, 2007 at 1:33 pm | Permalink

    Poor Solly, he is making a new friend with a poster nearly as idiotic as he is. Touching isn’t it.

    Kind of like “Of Mice and Men” but which one is playing Lenny Small?

  74. SolDevVB
    Posted June 1, 2007 at 1:36 pm | Permalink

    WS,Sorry to hurt your feelings and expose how you really think ( I won’t dirty this thread with your thoughts) but hey, if you look like a duck, quack like a duck, walk like a duck, I’m gonna call you a duck.

  75. Max
    Posted June 1, 2007 at 2:24 pm | Permalink

    Yup, very interesting discourse. Still no answers from WS.

    Ya remember when Eve took that apple, dang…ruined everything.

  76. WSClark
    Posted June 1, 2007 at 2:50 pm | Permalink

    Sorry, Mr. DevVB, but you lost badly and you know it.

    And you should know by now that anything YOU say woon’t hurt my feelings.

    Next time, make use of that Urban Dictionary before you try to use slang terminology – you might be able to avoid looking like an idiot.

    Or worse.

  77. LHG
    Posted June 1, 2007 at 3:06 pm | Permalink

    It’s clear there’s a lot of irrational responses from the left, and that they fear Thompson WILL run.

    Should be fun to watch Hillary Obama Edwards get trampled.

  78. Jed
    Posted June 1, 2007 at 4:04 pm | Permalink

    Hank,”Actually Jed,

    A surgeon doesn’t need to know much of anything.”

    I’m certainly glad you don’t get to choose my surgeon! If you want some creationist dolt cutting you open, I’m sure there are some who would oblige, and permanently relieve us from your idiocy. I’ll take the smartest, best educated, most informed surgeon I can get, thank you!

  79. Posted June 1, 2007 at 4:18 pm | Permalink

    Dear Jed,

    Actually you would be well served if you asked me for my advice on a surgeon. My wife does forensic work for many insurance companies, attorneys and even the Healing Arts Board on occassion.

    I might not know the very best surgeons in town, but I am aware of the worst!

    Hank

  80. WSClark
    Posted June 1, 2007 at 4:23 pm | Permalink

    “It’s clear there’s a lot of irrational responses from the left, and that they fear Thompson WILL run.”

    Oh, Jeez, bring it on! I like Fred Dalton Thompson as an actor, but he has nothing as a potential presidential candidate except name recognition. That is not going to do, post-Bush.

  81. Ben
    Posted June 1, 2007 at 4:33 pm | Permalink

    WSC – if I am not mistaken he was a prosecuter and Senator before he became an actor. And, as an actor, he really just plays himself.

    I think he will be a breath of fresh air.

  82. Posted June 1, 2007 at 4:37 pm | Permalink

    I like Fred thompsopn too. I don’t think you’ll have to worry much about him being the nominee though.

    Money. I don’t think he has the ‘fire-in-the-belly’ required to go out and get the required money.

    He’ll need 100 million by theend of the year. McCain, Romney and Guliani have a lot of the big bucks tied up already.

    Also, endorsements. He had a rather lackluster 8 years in the Senate. Didn’t show much in the way of leadership. Frist is coming out for Guliani. If you can’t get a senator from your home state to endorse you. . .

    Hank

  83. WSClark
    Posted June 1, 2007 at 4:39 pm | Permalink

    Fred Thompson would merely continue the Bush policy of stay the course in Iraq, just call it something different. He has as much said so.

    We need to move past the Bush years and reclaim this country for ALL Americans, not just those with an “R” behind their names.

    Yes, Ben, we need a breath of fresh air – his name is Barack Hussein Obama.

  84. Max
    Posted June 1, 2007 at 5:04 pm | Permalink

    You think Obama has more experience then Thompson?!?

    Get real!

    Oh, and what will Barack Hussein Obama do in Iraq – Surrender!?!

    He will invite more terrorist attacks in America.

    He will not be able to maintain a free flow of oil to fuel the economy of the US.

    Costs will go up as inflation hits double digits, which will drive unemployment to double digits, great economy!

    He will raise taxes.

    He will bring on national health care and raise taxes even more – while at the same time 1/2 of our doctors who are over age 50 today, will retire after being placed on a fixed pay scale.

    He will bring on complete Socialism in America – to some, that’s a good thing!

  85. WSClark
    Posted June 1, 2007 at 5:12 pm | Permalink

    Jeez, Max, and some call me crazy. What got into your tuna sandwich today?

  86. Ben
    Posted June 1, 2007 at 5:16 pm | Permalink

    Max got some of that ergot-infested grain.

  87. Max
    Posted June 1, 2007 at 5:17 pm | Permalink

    One last time I’ll ask you:

    What does the Dem party stand for?

    What 3 specific positions on the issues makes the Dem’s proud to support their candidate?

  88. WSClark
    Posted June 1, 2007 at 5:33 pm | Permalink

    Fiscal responsibility – pay as you go.

    Intelligent foreign policy – diplomacy before military action.

    Environmental responsibility – not assuming that business will voluntarily take measures to preserve the environment.

  89. WSClark
    Posted June 1, 2007 at 5:39 pm | Permalink

    Sorry, Max, I didn’t see the FIRST time you asked me…..

  90. Posted June 1, 2007 at 5:45 pm | Permalink

    Environmental responsibility – Thanks to Climate Change we had a milder winter last year and the U.S. had used almost 2 percent less energy in 2006 than in 2005.

    Let’s see, there is Federal Government EPA and about 50 state equivalents.

    Of course, WSClark is for bankrupting companies because of Environmental deficiencies, instead of working with companies.

    Fiscal Responsibility – Amazing that our GDP is enormous and growing every day. I agree that they need to curb some of the spending, as does any citizen. However, the Democrites want to increase spending for “their” programs. Such hypocrisy.

    Intelligent foreign policy – WSClark must mean the 12 years of foreign policy with Iraq before 2004 that didn’t contain or work on Saddam Hussein. Or perhaps the foreign policy in the former Yugo slavia that killed tens of thousands before the U.S. would do anything.

  91. WSClark
    Posted June 1, 2007 at 5:46 pm | Permalink

    Walk on…………….

  92. cosmos
    Posted June 1, 2007 at 5:57 pm | Permalink

    Walk on by……

  93. Jed
    Posted June 2, 2007 at 4:41 am | Permalink

    Dear Hank,”Actually you would be well served if you asked me for my advice on a surgeon. My wife does forensic work for many insurance companies, attorneys and even the Healing Arts Board on occassion.”Actually, I wouldn’t take your advice on anything, especially from Divine-Inspiration Forensics. I wouldn’t even ask how you grill hamburgers.I have my own methods for determining competent doctors and surgeons. I simply consult my lawyer and choose the one he’s least familiar with (most of the time- every once in a while I need one that’s got a wild, creative streak). It’s certainly worked so far!

  94. Max
    Posted June 2, 2007 at 12:56 pm | Permalink

    Say Clark, what is your candidate’s position on your top 3 issues? Was that Obama or Hillary?

  95. Max
    Posted June 2, 2007 at 1:00 pm | Permalink

    Clark, I forgot to also ask what your candidate’s RECORD is on those top issues of yours?

    Especially that Foreign Policy issue you mentions, since an Iraq strategy would fall under that category.

    Maybe you place National Defense under Foreign Policy too, or National Defense isn’t a top priority for you.

  96. WSClark
    Posted June 2, 2007 at 1:07 pm | Permalink

    Max, not that I consider you anything other than a Republank wannabe, but I posted several days ago what my positions were. As a Democrat, I support Barack Obama for President.

    If you want to know my position, Google it and look it up. Senator Obama’s record is consistent with my views.

  97. Posted June 2, 2007 at 1:21 pm | Permalink

    Thompson would make a great candidate for Republicans. We have a guy who brags about sleeping around, divorces his wife to marry a woman younger than his daughter, was a paid lobbyist for huge corporations, is one of those Hollywood elitist actors the Republicans love so much, and has never done anything worthwhile when in Congress.

    On the other hand John Edwards got a haircut so the Republicans hate him.

  98. Max
    Posted June 2, 2007 at 1:30 pm | Permalink

    Got it. Pure socialist.http://www.issues2000.org/Barack_Obama.htm

    http://votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=9490

    He wants to spend as much taxpayer money as possible.

    He wants to raise taxes as much as possible.

    He wants national healthcare – a free ride for healthcare in America, unless you are a hardworking American taxpayer.

    He wants immediate withdrawal from Iraq regardless of the consequences.

    No drilling for oil in America – so if not from the mideast, guess we do without oil.

    Is weak on crime – voting for alternative sentencing and against the death penalty.

    Wants to ban guns, or at least 80% of guns (semi-autos)

    Wants to continue illegal immigration and have illegals eligible for Social Security.

  99. WSClark
    Posted June 2, 2007 at 1:49 pm | Permalink

    He wants to spend as much taxpayer money as possible. (The Democratic position on spending is “pay as you go.”)

    He wants to raise taxes as much as possible. (Obama has not suggested a tax increase – just not extending the Bush tax cut for the richest 1%)

    He wants national health care – a free ride for health care in America, unless you are a hardworking American taxpayer. (The cost of uninsured Americans is seldom factored into the overall cost of health care in America. Sooner or later, a National Health Care program must be developed.)

    He wants immediate withdrawal from Iraq regardless of the consequences. (Nonsense)

    No drilling for oil in America – so if not from the Mideast, guess we do without oil. (Obama has never stated that we should not drill for oil in America. He is against drilling in ANWR, but there is only about six months worth of oil there – hardly something that will save American from ME oil)

    Is weak on crime – voting for alternative sentencing and against the death penalty. (Many Americans are against CP since it is applied unfairly and there have been at least 123 men on Death Row proven innocent and at least two known innocent men executed.)

    Wants to ban guns, or at least 80% of guns (semi-autos)(I do not believe that this is an accurate statement and I will do more research.)

    Wants to continue illegal immigration and have illegals eligible for Social Security. (Nonsense – no one is FOR illegal immigration, nor has Obama suggested that illegals become eligible for SS)

  100. Jed
    Posted June 2, 2007 at 6:13 pm | Permalink

    Max,”He wants to spend as much taxpayer money as possible.

    He wants to raise taxes as much as possible.”

    After watching the republican spending spree over six years, You got no right to complain about spending. No, the Borrow-and-Blow Republicans didn’t raise taxes- ours anyway; they did make sure our grandkids would pay and pay!

    ” He wants national healthcare – a free ride for healthcare in America, unless you are a hardworking American taxpayer.”

    I hate to tell you this, but that’s what we already have, and the way it’s set up is the most expensive way possible for taxpayers! A national healthcare plan would at the very least be a plan, which is more than we have now, and will save money in the long run- oops, I forgot; republicans can only think one quarter ahead!

    “He wants immediate withdrawal from Iraq regardless of the consequences.”

    Again I hate to tell you, but the consequences of staying in Iraq are worse than the consequences of leaving. Your friend Georgie entered into this war under false pretenses, and it’s come around to bite all of us in the ass! If Obama doesn’t end the war immediately, and turn George & Crew over to an international court, we will suffer consequences that poison our international relations and trade for decades to come!

    “No drilling for oil in America – so if not from the mideast, guess we do without oil.”

    No drilling in America? I think you mean in parts of Alaska where it would do more harm than good. They can still drill in your back yard!