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  1. Posted May 9, 2007 at 1:22 am | Permalink

    Governor Sebelius and Democrats more interested in exploiting tornado tragedy in Greensburg for political purposes than helping victims?

    Democratic Party “Talking Points” are to attack Bush about the war, but nothing about helping victims in Greensburg?

    Obama goofs and claims 10,000 people died in Kansas because of Democrats’ desire to bash Bush instead of helping victims.

    http://www.kansasmeadowlark.com/2007/05-09.htm

    Even without the National Guard, wouldn’t we have plenty of Kansas volunteers and resources (especially farm equipment, tractors, trucks, trailers, …) that could help Greensburg?

  2. Posted May 9, 2007 at 1:35 am | Permalink

    Meadlowlark conveniently ignores the grandstanding and exploiting being done by Todd Tiahrt and Pat Roberts.

    Tiahrt has had his perfect hairdo in front of every possible camera every day since Saturday. It’s NOT HIS DISTRICT. It’s not even close – the 4th District ends two counties away from Greensburg. Tiahrt has no statutory authority to request emergency assistance, yet he’s standing around, acting like he’s single-handedly rebuilding Greensburg.

    Do we see Nancy Boyda strutting for the news crews in Greensburg?

    Do we see Dennis Moore posturing for the cameras?

    No and No.

    Pat Roberts, as a US Senator, can make a good case for being in Greensburg. However: Pat Roberts wrote an op-ed published in Tuesday’s Eagle, where he takes credit for Sebelius doing Sebelius’ job. Senator Roberts, I used to have more respect for you. You’re spending your way through it pretty fast.

  3. Posted May 9, 2007 at 1:49 am | Permalink

    From the New York Times:

    “In Kansas, the National Guard is operating with 40 percent to 50 percent of its vehicles and heavy machinery, local Guard officials said. Ordinarily, the Guard would have about 660 Humvees and more than 30 large trucks to traverse difficult terrain and transport heavy equipment. When the tornado struck, the Guard had about 350 Humvees and 15 large trucks, said Maj. Gen. Tod Bunting, the state’s adjutant general. The Guard would also usually have 170 medium-scale tactical vehicles used to transport people and supplies — but now it has fewer than 30, he said. On the other hand, General Bunting said, it had more cargo trucks than it needed.”

  4. Posted May 9, 2007 at 2:02 am | Permalink

    http://www.ngb.army.mil/news/archives/2007/05/050807-Assets_needed.aspx

    The Kansas National Guard has 88 percent of its forces available and is working quickly and aggressively to save lives and reduce suffering, Guard Bureau officials reported. More than 6,800 additional Kansas Guard troops can be tapped, if needed, as well as more than 80,000 Guardsmen from surrounding states, Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman told reporters today.

    Kansas Guardsmen responding to the disaster have 60 percent of their Army Guard dual-use equipment and more than 85 percent of their Air Guard equipment on hand, officials said.

    Whitman reported a full range of Guard equipment on hand to support the mission. The Kansas Guard has 352 Humvees, 94 Heavy Expanded Mobility Tactical Trucks, 24 medium and light tactical vehicles, 152 2.5-ton cargo trucks, 76 series 5-ton trucks, 13 M916 tractors, 870 trailers, 52 Heavy Equipment Transport Systems, and 30 Palletized Load System Trucks.

    In terms of engineering assets, the Kansas Guard has all — and in some cases more than, — its authorized vehicles. This includes five road graders, 15 bulldozers, eight scoop loaders and 72 dump trucks, he said.= = =While the National Guard is helpful, civilian resources are available but being ignored in this discussion.

  5. Posted May 9, 2007 at 2:09 am | Permalink

    Who to believe? A PR flack from the Pentagon, or Major General Todd Bunting?

    Hmmmm….

    Decisions, decisions.

  6. Posted May 9, 2007 at 2:24 am | Permalink

    http://www.kansascity.com/115/story/99548.html

    “We’re fine in Greensburg,” the adjutant general of the Kansas National Guard, Tod Bunting, said on Darla Jaye’s radio show Tuesday.

    - – - -

    Other TV stories said there were too many volunteers and more could not be used at this point in time. Brownback appeared on camera quoting his conversation with Bunting that no additional equipment was needed.

  7. Posted May 9, 2007 at 2:34 am | Permalink

    http://newsbusters.org/node/12611

    BUNTING: Well, at this point in time, we’re fine with this job. What the governor is saying is, with the shortage of equipment, if we had another storm anywhere near this magnitude, we wouldn’t have enough equipment to handle it.

    - – -Oh, there’s plenty of resources in Greensburg, but we’re worrying about the next storm instead of focusing on the current victims?

  8. Posted May 9, 2007 at 2:39 am | Permalink

    Not all agree with KSMeadowlark, but it cannot be argued that he is not accurate. He is probably the most accurate poster on this blog even though some don’t like his ideologies or politics.

  9. Posted May 9, 2007 at 3:01 am | Permalink

    http://kansas.com/212/story/65406.html

    Some ideas on supporting an affordable child care facilities so parents can work and siblings can go to school? It is my opinion that any welfare reform for single parents should involve highly subsidized child care.

  10. Joe Williams
    Posted May 9, 2007 at 7:14 am | Permalink

    That already exist Roo Haa.

  11. steve
    Posted May 9, 2007 at 7:15 am | Permalink

    Cheney’s in Baghdad, look for improptu bombings today!

  12. steve
    Posted May 9, 2007 at 7:18 am | Permalink

    If there are so many Guard and resources available, why is it being outsourced to private contractors?

  13. Steven Davis
    Posted May 9, 2007 at 7:31 am | Permalink

    “Oh, there’s plenty of resources in Greensburg, but we’re worrying about the next storm instead of focusing on the current victims?”

    Yes, it is called “foresight”, “planning”… you know, those concepts completely foreign to the Bush mind.

  14. delores
    Posted May 9, 2007 at 7:39 am | Permalink

    Cheney is going to come back from Iraq and proclaim that the insurgency in Iraq is “in the last throes”.

  15. rraptor
    Posted May 9, 2007 at 7:43 am | Permalink

    Is it possible that our governor is bashing GW to raise her national profile during an election? Possible consideration as VP material?

    Not saying she is, but anything is possible in politics.

  16. Posted May 9, 2007 at 7:56 am | Permalink

    Jerry Moran, on the morning after the storm, was on the scene, and taking shots at Sebelius.

    Who do you want handling disasters in Kansas? Our own National Guard, under command of the Governor, or do you want to turn the operation over to the feds? I believe this same controversy arose in La.

    Both sides do appear to be playing politics.

  17. Posted May 9, 2007 at 8:04 am | Permalink

    Oh, just an aside; went to the grocery store and found that a regular box of grapenuts was nearly $5. My wife says that in the last few weeks, grocery prices have skyrocketed. What say folks from the big city?

  18. snarky
    Posted May 9, 2007 at 8:04 am | Permalink

    Stupidest comments of the day to State Senator Betts, who compared Greensburg to Katrina, said the feds should have been there the night of the storm, and said:

    “We’re spending $2 billion a week on the war to build another country while we’re neglecting our own nation.”

    Betts is already famous for completely neglecting his own Wichita district to jump in front of the national media, and push bills on Darfur and Iraq in Topeka. Someone tell him he’s in the STATE senate, please.

  19. Posted May 9, 2007 at 8:28 am | Permalink

    White House Blames Gov. Sebelius For National Guard Shortages

    Kansas is currently missing approximately 60 percent of its National Guard equipment because of the war in Iraq, hampering its ability to respond to the recent tornadoes.

    In a “spat reminiscent of White House finger-pointing at Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco after the federal government’s botched response to Hurricane Katrina,” White House Press Secretary Tony Snow this morning blamed Gov. Kathleen Sebelius (D) for the shortages, saying he was “not aware of any prior complaints” by the governor about the equipment:

    If you don’t request it, you’re not going to get it. … As far as we know, the only thing the governor has requested are FM radios. There have been no requests to the National Guard for heavy equipment. … We are eager to provide what Kansas needs. But again there are also – you also have to go through the process of making the request first.

    Snow’s statements are incorrect. On repeated occasions, Sebelius made clear to the White House that Kansas was dangerously low on National Guard equipment:

    – Dec. 30, 2005: Sebelius writes to Rumsfeld requesting new equipment. “The Guard was critical to responding to recent blizzards and floods in Kansas, yet its ability to respond to similar situations is being diminished by a lack of equipment,” wrote Sebelius. Included with her letter was a list of equipment Kansas had lost to the Iraq war. (Kansas City Star, 1/21/06; Topeka Capital-Journal, 6/29/06)

    – Jan. 23, 2006: Sebelius personally urges Bush to increase National Guard funding. In an one-hour motorcade ride in Kansas with Bush, Sebelius expressed concern about “a reduction of National Guard troop strength in its next budget.” Bush assured her he was “dealing” with the shortages. (Topeka Capital-Journal, 1/24/06; Kansas City Star, 3/11/06)

    – June 28, 2006: Sebelius sends Army Secretary list of equipment lost in war. In a meeting with Army Secretary Francis J. Harvey, Sebelius told Harvey that the state had lost about $140 million in National Guard equipment to the Iraq war. Her office then sent him a list of the lost equipment. (Topeka Capital-Journal, 6/29/06)

    – Sept. 2006: Sebelius lobbies for replacement of National Guard equipment sent to Iraq. “Kansas’ congressional delegation, Sebelius and governors from around the country have been lobbying the Pentagon for increased funding to replace National Guard equipment that has been left in Iraq or damaged beyond repair after repeated use in war.” (AP, 9/5/06)

    – Feb. 27, 2007: Sebelius pushes White House and Congress for more funding. “Now the Guard needs Washington’s help,” Sebelius said in press conference on Capitol Hill. “The President and Congress need to step up to the plate and give our Guard members the support they deserve.” (Press Release, 2/27/07)

    At today’s White House press briefing, a reporter confronted Snow about Sebelius’s past requests. Snow simply replied, “And what happened was, she actually did get — there was not a formal request. But they’d had conversations.” He also admitted that Sebelius did request more than FM Radios.

  20. Posted May 9, 2007 at 8:30 am | Permalink

    Snarky thinks spending 2 billion dollars a week of his grand-children’s money to Halliburton and CACI is a great idea.

    For him, there’s nothing not to like about war he doesn’t have to fight or pay for . . .

  21. SolDevVB
    Posted May 9, 2007 at 8:35 am | Permalink

    Judge Dismisses Charges Against Posada Carriles

    Tuesday, May 08, 2007

    Will the US allow him to be extradited to Venezuela or Cuba? He has a CIA operative background….

  22. SolDevVB
    Posted May 9, 2007 at 8:39 am | Permalink

    Capn would rather skip the meat of the post and go straight for a partisan jab…

    “Betts is already famous for completely neglecting his own Wichita district to jump in front of the national media, and push bills on Darfur and Iraq in Topeka. Someone tell him he’s in the STATE senate, please.”

  23. ColonelAmerikkka
    Posted May 9, 2007 at 8:48 am | Permalink

    How gullible CapnAmerica must be to believe a whining governor like K.S.

    Do you have no ability to discern?

    Oh, I see you don’t, based on the past postings from you.

  24. Posted May 9, 2007 at 8:49 am | Permalink

    Morning, Republican.

    Back to the old tricks again, eh?

    Sad.

    Really sad.

  25. snarky
    Posted May 9, 2007 at 8:51 am | Permalink

    And am I the only one to notice that Sebelius is chair of the Democratic Governors Association? Doesn’t that merit a mention when she postures in public?

  26. sotheysaid
    Posted May 9, 2007 at 8:53 am | Permalink

    Betts is posturing for a congressional run. He is a polite young man but he has no idea how to lead.

    As far as the Adjutant General position you have to remember he is appointed by the Governor so he has to parrot what she says.

    I am also glad to see the Kansas tradition continue and that is for the entire state to be willing and ready to help when they are needed. So it makes sense for all of our congressional delegation to do whatever they can to assist.

  27. Posted May 9, 2007 at 8:53 am | Permalink

    By all means, snarky, mention it.

    It means she has the respect of her peers.

  28. Posted May 9, 2007 at 8:55 am | Permalink

    You reich-wingers like that word “posture” don’t you?

    What say ye to Giuliani’s recent denunciation of abortion while giving donations to Planned Parenthood?

    Is that “posturing” or just plain lying?

  29. littlejohn
    Posted May 9, 2007 at 8:58 am | Permalink

    While I haven;t heard Giuliani’s denunciaiton, so i don;t know what he said, sounds like a big problem to me.

  30. snarky
    Posted May 9, 2007 at 9:16 am | Permalink

    Of course her peers respect her when she panders to the deranged, Capn. That’s the base, after all!

    So, when is Betts going to do something for his district? Instead of posture for the party?

  31. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted May 9, 2007 at 9:27 am | Permalink

    God I love the smell of wingnut fear in the morning.

    It is becoming more clear every day that they FEAR Senator Donald Betts.

    Why else all the early trashing? Reminiscent of the republicans trying to smear Obama, Edwards and Hillary. And now Don Betts. Typical and predictable.

    Y’all wingnuts need some Xanex to quell all that fear and anxiety you are carrying about the election in 08.

  32. Posted May 9, 2007 at 9:39 am | Permalink

    Snarky,

    Nice try on the attempt to smear Senator Betts.

    He has several constituents in the armed forces and Kansas National Guard who have either completed at least one deployment to Iraq, or who are currently there. Tell me it’s not his job to be concerned for their well-being, seeing as how Bush has sent them off to fight someone else’s civil war.

    If it weren’t such a serious issue, it would be amusing that you mock Betts for his leadership in getting the State of Kansas to divest its KPERS investments in companies that support the Darfur genocide. You can make this a partisan hackery issue all you want, Snarky, but the reality is, the Darfur divestment passed the Senate 39-0 and the House 123-2. It seems damn near every State Senator and State Representative agrees with Senator Betts on this issue.

  33. Posted May 9, 2007 at 9:42 am | Permalink

    sotheysaid,

    So, Betts is a “polite young man?” Why don’t you say what you REALLY mean–that he’s “articulate?” You Wingnuts and your racist dogwhistle are SOOOOOO predictable.

    But we’ve got your number. And judging from your feigned concern that he “has no idea how to lead,” Betts appears to as well.

    ksfarmgrrl,

    Indeed. It’s almost like they go to the same midnight rallies, wear the same funny clothes, and bow down to the same portly white guy with the grandiose title.

    But give ‘em credit: like the good little fascists they are, there’s nothing they do like stay on message.

  34. political_mom
    Posted May 9, 2007 at 10:36 am | Permalink

    How come I sensed a post from Meadowlark today?

  35. raptor
    Posted May 9, 2007 at 10:48 am | Permalink

    Total change of subject..I see the racial jerks of Sunflower have raised their voice again. This time they are complaining because the new director at McAdams recreation center is not black.

    Man, the racial screams would fly if a black person got a job and people complained about that. But it is ok for a group to vent because a white person got a job? Regardless of qualifications, they are concerned only about race.

    Pure racism on behalf of Sunflower.

  36. Posted May 9, 2007 at 11:02 am | Permalink

    Andrew Miga, AP Writer

    WASHINGTON — Democratic Rep. Martin Meehan, known for his work on campaign finance reform, formally submitted his resignation from Congress on Wednesday, paving the way for him to become chancellor of the University of Massachusetts at Lowell.

  37. Posted May 9, 2007 at 11:11 am | Permalink

    A New Pelosi Pigout?

    INVESTOR’S BUSINESS DAILY

    Posted 5/8/2007

    “Media: When Dennis Hastert was accused of profiting from congressional earmarks last year, media went into a front-page frenzy over “corruption.” With Nancy Pelosi now in the same spot, it’s a back-page story.

    In case you haven’t heard, and maybe you haven’t, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi slipped in a $25 million provision for San Francisco’s waterfront on a $15 billion federal water bill at the last minute. It’s pork barrel spending, yes, but more than that.

    Republicans are crying foul because the federal cash for port improvements and the bill’s provision for Pier 35 cruise ship dockage all benefit a toney area of San Francisco — one where Pelosi’s husband just happens to own real estate about a mile away.

    His properties are close enough to benefit from the inflow of federal cash to the area — and from the added business the new development will bring. At the very least, the question should be raised because he definitely has friends in high places.

    To be fair, Pelosi’s earmark is going to a touristy area near Coit Tower, where plenty of San Francisco’s movers and shakers could potentially benefit from the trough’s offerings, too. Given the small size of San Francisco, maybe it’s impossible to avoid conflicts.

    But that’s just it. When the last House Speaker, Dennis Hastert, made a $2 million profit from selling land almost six miles from a highway project he secured a $200 million earmark for in 2005, the outcry was loud about how he might have served himself.

    The media ran front-page stories on it for days and television commentators harrumphed about public corruption — the GOP kind.

    Now that Democrat Pelosi has secured an earmark for some land a mere 5,400 feet from her husband’s property, there are no front-page stories. But there should be, because this isn’t the first time she’s been noticeably helpful to her own interests.

    A few months ago, Pelosi wrote a provision into a minimum wage law that exempted American Samoa from its costs to businesses. The exemption benefited Starkist, whose Del Monte headquarters is in Pelosi’s district. Like this pork issue, that story dropped from the news like a dead fish.

    As far as we can tell, only the Associated Press and New York Post have reported the story, and local papers are asleep. Much of the media has tucked the lonely AP story onto their back pages for appearances’ sake. But in practical terms, this story will drop from the pier fast and sink without notice.

    Maybe Pelosi did something wrong and maybe she didn’t. Were phone calls made from Union Street lobbyists, or were deals cut at The Palm? Is there something about the law that makes it impossible to follow? We don’t know because the media aren’t on it.

    The one thing we do know is that the media shows one standard of coverage for charges made against Republicans and another standard for Democrats.

    With Pelosi on the hot seat this time, this news probably will get deep-sixed. It shouldn’t.”

  38. ksgrm
    Posted May 9, 2007 at 11:33 am | Permalink

    Repub you really didn’t expect to see this getting any wide press coverage now did you?

    Haliburton, haliburton, that is their cry. It starts everytime you mention corruption and Dirty Harry, Feinstein and now Pelosi in the same sentence.

    Just politics as usual. Ask the people in Topock, AZ about the bridge Harry build for them in Nevada.

    Oh there are no people in Topock. It is a red brick Post office building in the middle of the desert. This part of the desert just happens to be owned by Dirty Harry. Feinstein lined her family coffers while the chair of the committee that handed out the no bid contracts and now Pelosi does the same.

    I will just say if you want to see anything on these and other real news stories turn to Fox. They are fair and balanced.

    I see the Prez is on the ground at Greensburg. I’m waiting for the barbs to start.

    Talk about egg on your face. Sebelius had my admiration for the way she was on board to rebuild Greensburg and then she had to go and turn it into JPAU. Shame on her!

  39. Posted May 9, 2007 at 11:46 am | Permalink

    http://mediamatters.org/items/200705080014?f=h_latest

    As Media Matters for America documented, Associated Press writer Erica Werner reported in a May 7 article that “Republicans are accusing House Speaker Nancy Pelosi of including a provision in a water redevelopment bill that could benefit property her husband owns in San Francisco.” Werner also noted that Republicans have offered no evidence to support the accusation — raising the question of why the AP thought the article worth writing at all.

    Further, in a May 8 post, blogger and media critic Greg Sargent reported that Port of San Francisco officials said they requested the improvements included in Pelosi’s earmark. From Sargent’s post:

    But I’ve just gotten off the phone with the Port of San Francisco. Guess what? It’s representatives told me in no uncertain terms that it requested the improvements, and that Pelosi only included the improvements at their request. Here’s what Brad Benson, the special project manager of the Port of San Francisco, said to me:

    “The port initiated these requests. They came entirely from the city and county of San Francisco. [The requests] were generated at the staff level. The port initiated our request through the city and county of San Francisco. Our requests were funneled through the mayor’s office on up to Speaker Pelosi’s office…If anyone is claiming that Pelosi initiated these requests in some way, that’s completely false.”

  40. steve
    Posted May 9, 2007 at 11:55 am | Permalink

    Cheney’s comment today :Asked about security in Baghdad, Cheney told reporters, “I have to reply on reports, because obviously I spent the day here basically in our embassy in the Green Zone.”McCain must be fuming! I’d hope we’d see a recreation of McCains walk through the valley of death!

  41. Posted May 9, 2007 at 11:59 am | Permalink

    re: San Francisco Port Project

    Sort of like Senator Feinstein’s husband business partner initiated the conversation to get construction projects for Feinstein’s husband company, in which by the State Law of California fifty percent of the business belongs to the Senator.

    Funneling information doesn’t not indicate the release impropriety and GOBN actions.

  42. Joe Williams
    Posted May 9, 2007 at 12:04 pm | Permalink

    Republican. When it comes to Democrats, they get a pass. What Feinstein did, she should be kicked out of Congress for that or even put in prison for such gross violation of the law.

    But, Democrats control the Congress and they don’t investigate their own, so she’s safe. Just had to resign her committee post before the MSM starts hammering her on this.

    Swept under the rug and people still have cash in their freezer. ;)

  43. littlejohn
    Posted May 9, 2007 at 12:07 pm | Permalink

    I know I am showing my ignorance, but could someone please explain this article to me?

    http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/pelosi-threat-to-sue-bush-over-iraq-bill-2007-05-08.html

    I do not understand what a “signing statment” is. if I had an understanding of that, perhaps I would understand the rest of the story.

  44. Posted May 9, 2007 at 12:10 pm | Permalink

    Republicans don’t need to smear Liberal Democrats. As Gov. Kitty proved, all we need to do is stand back and let them embarrass themselves, their office, their state, their country, their families, friends and associates.

    Given enough time even the most rational people will see these posturing, greedy, self involved, sorry excuses for oxygen users for what they are.

    I’d provide links to the folks who actually got it right but the links policy at our 2nd amendment warriors doesn’t take links.

  45. Posted May 9, 2007 at 12:18 pm | Permalink

    Signing Statement by FindLaw:

    http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/gwbush/s3731.html

  46. .morg
    Posted May 9, 2007 at 12:22 pm | Permalink

    ksgrm,We bring up hal. because well they”re so darn sleazy.

    * The U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) is investigating allegations by an Army official claiming that the Army Corp of Engineers illegally excluded Halliburton ’s competitors from bidding on Iraq contracts.Bunnatine Greenhouse, an Army whistleblower, says the line between government officials and Halliburton had become so blurred that a conflict of interest exists.The conduct appears to have violated specific federal contract-related regulations and calls into question the independence of the contracting process.

    * The U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) is conducting a criminal investigation into Halliburton ’s admission that it “may have paid” $180 million in bribes to officials in the Nigerian government to win a multibillion dollar construction con-tract. Some of the bribes were paid during Dick Cheney’s tenure as chief executive officer. Halliburton terminated its relationship with former KBR chief Albert Jack Stanley after discovering that $5 million of the bribe money was allegedly deposited into his Swiss bank account.

    * The Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) is investi-gating a second bribery case involving Nigeria. Halliburton admitted that its employees paid a $2.4 million bribe to a Nigerian government official for the pur-pose of receiving favorable tax treat-ment. As the Houston Chronicle points out, “left unanswered is how a ‘low-level employee’ could channel that much money from the company to the pockets of a corrupt official.”

    * The DOJ has opened a criminal investigating of Halliburton ’s business dealings in Iran.The company sells goods and services to Iran through a Cayman Islands sub-sidiary. The sales appear to have violated the U.S. trade embargo against Iran.

  47. Mike
    Posted May 9, 2007 at 1:01 pm | Permalink

    Seems like the righties are feeling a little self rightous today. Do we need to remind you of Sen Ted Stevens(R-Alaska) bridge to nowhere? Well here is a reminder in case you forgot

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravina_Island_Bridge

  48. cosmos
    Posted May 9, 2007 at 1:03 pm | Permalink

    Republican,”A few months ago, Pelosi wrote a provision into a minimum wage law that exempted American Samoa from its costs to businesses.”

    George Miller (not Pelosi) wrote the bill the way the Samoan delegate requested. It did not remove the exemption given EARLIER, when Repubs controlled Congress.

    IDB is not a accurate source. As with human-caused GW, Republican believes any source that supports his opinions.

  49. Kathy
    Posted May 9, 2007 at 1:08 pm | Permalink

    Well it didn’t take long for the political BS to start, did it?

    The first stories out of Kansas made me proud to be a Kansan (Liberal). My initial thought after the disaster, and still my overriding thoughts are that my prayers go out to this community.

    My next belief was that this was a great opportunity to show the country how amazing Kansans are: resolute, brave, help each other out, real “pull themselves up” type folks. And they are that. It was (and hopefully still is) and opportunity to demonstrate the vast difference between Louisianans and Kansans. And that’s just how it started! The press was glowing about the nature of the Jayhawkers.

    And then the Governor. Sheesh, is she making political points off the reputation of our state, or what? We are no Louisiana. She, on the other hand, is a Kathleen Blanco. What a loser.

    Kansas: let’s show them who we really are! Get those knuckleheads off that stage and give them a broom.

  50. delores
    Posted May 9, 2007 at 1:24 pm | Permalink

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMPIi03wSfY&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ehuffingtonpost%2Ecom%2F2007%2F05%2F09%2Fformer%2Dcommanding%2Dgeneral%5Fn%5F48028%2Ehtml

  51. Posted May 9, 2007 at 1:25 pm | Permalink

    Yeah Cosmos…

    I like being an American that stands for American interests.

    Unlike you, a UN lapdog repeated the mantra that humans are cause of everything bad.

    Giddyup Cosmos! hyah!

  52. .morg
    Posted May 9, 2007 at 2:04 pm | Permalink

    http://www.anesi.com/fscale.htm

    here’s a fun quiz for the righties while us UN lapdogs go about our bizniz

  53. cosmos
    Posted May 9, 2007 at 2:06 pm | Permalink

    Republican,

    The U.N. does NOT do climate research. The IPCC compiles the science published in peer-reviewed journals.

    And the IPCC weakens, and waters-down the SPM.

    ‘Political Corruption of the IPCC Report?Changes in the Final Text of the “Summary for Policy Makers” ‘http://www.meridian.org.uk/Resources/Global%20Dynamics/IPCC/index.htm

  54. Posted May 9, 2007 at 2:14 pm | Permalink

    The IPCC was established in 1988 by the World Meteorological Organization (WMO) and the United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP).

  55. Posted May 9, 2007 at 2:24 pm | Permalink

    Delores–Great link. Thank you.

    Shows General Batiste stating factually that Worst President Ever did not listen to the Generals and is destroying our military.

  56. cosmos
    Posted May 9, 2007 at 2:35 pm | Permalink

    Republican,

    The 1st paragraph says who “established” the IPCC.

    Read the 2nd paragraph,http://www.ipcc.ch/about/about.htm“The IPCC does not carry out research nor does it monitor climate related data or other relevant parameters. It bases its assessment mainly on peer reviewed and published scientific/technical literature.”

  57. ksgrm
    Posted May 9, 2007 at 2:46 pm | Permalink

    Kathy I couldn’t agree with you more. Look around Greensburg. They are turning down volunteers right now. so many have tried to help.

    Later when the rebuilding starts I am sure Kansans will step up again. FEMA has assured them the money is there to rebuild the infrastructure.

    What a great state and country.

  58. delores
    Posted May 9, 2007 at 2:50 pm | Permalink

    CapnAmerica–You’re welcome.

    This was emailed to me. What a coincidence that this fits right in with your last comments.

    http://www.jibjab.com/view/125614

  59. TDT
    Posted May 9, 2007 at 3:04 pm | Permalink

    That was awesome, I LOVED that Dolores!!!

  60. lindainks55
    Posted May 9, 2007 at 3:15 pm | Permalink

    Thanks Delores! That was my best laugh today.

  61. Posted May 9, 2007 at 3:18 pm | Permalink

    Well, I agree that nobody pitches in like Kansans. No state is friendly or more concerned about their neighbors.

    But it’s going to take more than burning a few brush piles . . . this is major reconstruction that will take years and many millions.

    It’s not like we can just rebuild somebody’s barn like the Amish.

  62. Posted May 9, 2007 at 3:22 pm | Permalink

    Ha! I knew it! No one cares about groceries.

  63. TDT
    Posted May 9, 2007 at 3:29 pm | Permalink

    DK – I saw your question, but have not tried to buy too many groceries in the last several days. I had heard that food prices were going to go up, but didn’t realize that it would go up that much.

  64. WSClark
    Posted May 9, 2007 at 3:38 pm | Permalink

    DK, cereal has been off limits on my grocery list for some time. I can buy a damned nice steak for the price of a box of cereal.

    That is sick.

    I haven’t noticed that the prices in general are going up all that much, but I have noticed that the sales are less frequent and the cuts are less deep.

    In general, I do my shopping and plan my menus based on what meat is on sale. Lately it has been just pork.

    To save money and for health considerations, we usually have one vegetarian meal per week.

    My son will eat any meal with potatoes in it, so salad and baked potatoes is usually a good bet.

    Cereal – I can’t even walk down the cereal aisle at Dillon’s without my banker giving me a call and chewing me out.

  65. Hank Price
    Posted May 9, 2007 at 4:11 pm | Permalink

    Hey! I care about groceries! I aggree with Clark, cereal is too expensive and way too bad for you!

    I do, however, on occassion buy a box of Crunchy Granola Raisin Bran.

    Hank

  66. TDT
    Posted May 9, 2007 at 4:15 pm | Permalink

    I’ll by cereal when it’s on sale, plus, it’s a good snack at night.

  67. Hank Price
    Posted May 9, 2007 at 4:31 pm | Permalink

    My wife and I occasionally go on the ‘Zone Diet’ if our belts seem to be getting a little short.

    It’s a good diet for losing and maintaining your weight. It can be summarized easily. Don’t go up and down the aisles in the grocery store. Just buy the things you can get by walking around the sides and back of the store. Fresh veggies, dairy products and meat.

    Stay away from stuff in cans and boxes!

    Hank

  68. XXX
    Posted May 9, 2007 at 4:46 pm | Permalink

    Morg,I took your test and scored a 3.5. I’m disciplined but tolerant. A true American.

  69. Ben
    Posted May 9, 2007 at 4:48 pm | Permalink

    Hank – the main thing I add to your ‘perimeter’ is frozen food – especially vegetables. Finding fresh veges just hasn’t been good lately.

    Hopefully in not TOO long I’ll have ‘matoes’ from the garden.

  70. Hank Price
    Posted May 9, 2007 at 5:03 pm | Permalink

    Haven’t got my garden in yet. When I’m home it’s raining. I’m getting enough asparagas to keep me happy for now though.

    Hank

  71. Mrage
    Posted May 9, 2007 at 5:06 pm | Permalink

    I’m a cereal eater for breakfast and the 10 pm snack. I exercise after 11 pm, need some fuel.

    Wheaties, Raisin Bran, Cheerios, Total and Life, generally in my cabinet.

    I don’t eat bacon, eggs or sausage that often. I love Bisquick Pancakes. If I have eggs to eat, their boiled.

    I haven’t been to McDonalds, Arby’s, Spangles, Braums, KFC, Taco Bell or Burger King, this year.

    I had some Pizza delivered.

    Veggies in bags better than canned. Only corn on the cob, not canned. Plenty of onions and tomato’s. Fruit disappears rarely gets old.

    I don’t diet, just exercise more when needed.

  72. Posted May 9, 2007 at 5:07 pm | Permalink

    I KNEW IT!

    When the CONs were b*tching and moaning about the UN oil-for-food “scandal,” it apparently never occurred to them the biggest user of oil is the US and the big companies that supply it are AMERICAN.

    The idea that this scandal only involved the French and the Russians and Koffi Annan’s son is patently ridiculous on its face.

    And here’s the new evidence of how ridiculous it is:

    “The Iraqis started demanding the kickbacks in the summer of 2000. And at the time, Condi, had she been performing her fiduciary duty to Chevron’s shareholders, would had to have known about the dealings. See, she was head of Chevron’s public policy committee, which, according to the Times, “oversaw areas of potential political concerns for the company.” The committee held three meetings in 2000, according to SEC filings.

    “Condi was no neophyte when it came to the decision-making process at Chevron. She served as a board member for Chevron Corp. for 10 years, from 1991 until George Bush’s inauguration in 2001.

    “Clearly, Chevron’s illegal support of Saddam Hussein’s dictatorship is breathtaking in its criminality. As mentioned above, Fred Barnes himself called the Oil-for-Food scandal, in which billions of dollars went illegally to the Baghdad regime “the biggest scandal in human history.”

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/5/8/183441/6853

  73. WSClark
    Posted May 9, 2007 at 5:08 pm | Permalink

    I’m on a see food diet.

  74. WSClark
    Posted May 9, 2007 at 5:09 pm | Permalink

    Groan…………….

  75. Posted May 9, 2007 at 5:11 pm | Permalink

    I grow a few tomato plants; some cherry and some better varieties.

    Also, some jalepenos, bell peppers, couple of pumpkin vines, dill and some mint.

    I like nuts (unsalted), fresh lettuce, cabbage meals, beans of all varieties, squash, cucumbers (cucumber sandwich with fresh cheese and spicy mustard), all fruits and about every beef or chicken style of meal (mostly roasted.)

  76. Hank Price
    Posted May 9, 2007 at 5:20 pm | Permalink

    dailykos??!!

    Come on capt.!

    We’re talking home grown tomatoes!

    Hank

  77. kscitydude
    Posted May 9, 2007 at 6:27 pm | Permalink

    Chevron Seen Settling Case on Iraq OilBy CLAUDIO GATTI and Jad Mouawad

    Chevron, the second-largest American oil company, is preparing to acknowledge that it should have known kickbacks were being paid to Saddam Hussein on oil it bought from Iraq as part of a defunct United Nations program, according to investigators.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/08/business/08chevron.html?em&ex=1178769600&en=bdffb997cbb5c842&ei=5087

  78. Posted May 9, 2007 at 6:32 pm | Permalink

    omigosh! I bought oil at Chevron!

    Am I part of the plot too!

    In the words of Fleettwood…

    “Everyone panic!”

  79. kscitydude
    Posted May 9, 2007 at 6:46 pm | Permalink

    I didn’t know you were in the oilbusiness, Republican. My dealings are with Phillips-Conoco. I hope they are not involved also.

  80. political_mom
    Posted May 9, 2007 at 7:58 pm | Permalink

    Kathy, people are people. It’s wrong to compare our tragedy to Louisiana. The scope would be about 1000x’s more and LONGER.

    I love Betts but I disagree with him doing this too.

    Sebelius was right.

  81. delores
    Posted May 9, 2007 at 8:23 pm | Permalink

    South Dakota DMV reverses decision to take away woman’s personalized tag that says MPEACHW.

    http://www.rapidcityjournal.com/articles/2007/05/03/news/top/news02_impeach_bush_plate.txt

  82. political_mom
    Posted May 9, 2007 at 9:16 pm | Permalink

    Sadly, the governor just passed Alexa’s law.

    Now we get to watch the fallout. And we’ll be counting the casualties so hopefully we can reverse this law when it’s your friend, mother, sister, coworker who are negatively impacted by it.

  83. Mary Caruso
    Posted May 9, 2007 at 9:42 pm | Permalink

    God, you are so heartless. Shame on you, PMom.

  84. political_mom
    Posted May 9, 2007 at 9:47 pm | Permalink

    I am not heartless at all. There was a better law just waiting to be written, matter of fact it was already in place, but now this one negates it.

    You wait and see.

  85. ksgrm
    Posted May 9, 2007 at 10:11 pm | Permalink

    The way I understand this law is if someone intentionally harms a woman who is carrying a viable infant they will be charged with two crimes. Also if in the course of an automobile accident or some such if it is proven that you were incapacitated by drugs, liquor or any other mind altering substance you can be charged with two crimes. Abortion has been written as an exception so there is no worry about that. I don’t see what is bad about this bill.

  86. political_mom
    Posted May 9, 2007 at 10:56 pm | Permalink

    Have you not paid any attention to the posts that I have made about this?

    In Texas, a man was sentenced in the double murder of his 4 month old gestation twins under this law. WHY? Because the MOTHER was trying to do a home abortion and begged him for his help.

    In South Carolina, women are being charged under the same kind of laws with nearly exact wording as ours. And some of them are miscarrying for legitimate reasons, but the state is saying that because she smoked, or smoked pot or drank a beer that she murdered her fetus. Ride a bicycle and fall off…you could be charged! This is how ridiculous these laws are being used.

    In SouthCarolina,a similar law has been used approximately 3 times against actualperpetrators sinceits inception in 1984. It has been used over 70 times, however, toprosecute womenwho suffered stillbirths. A similar trend has appeared in other statesas well,even though the laws specifically exempt pregnant women just as HB 2062and SB 324do.

  87. political_mom
    Posted May 9, 2007 at 10:58 pm | Permalink

    Not only that, but now that the state is recognizing a fetus in terms of person, the antichoice people will take that to the supreme court to try to assign rights to that fetus that will likely impact abortion rulings.

    This is why the antichoice anti woman groups have been pushing for this law so hard for so long. They just latched onto Chelsea Brook’s family because they knew they had their ticket to get it finally passed.

  88. political_mom
    Posted May 9, 2007 at 11:06 pm | Permalink

    Statement of Opposition to the Unborn Victims of Violence Act

    The Center for Reproductive Rights (Center) opposes the “Unborn Victims of Violence Act” (UVVA). Rather than addressing the tragic consequences of violence against women during pregnancy, the bill is another attempt by anti-choice legislators to advance their theory of “fetal personhood” in a campaign to undermine the right to choose abortion.

    The Bill Recognizes a Fertilized Egg, Embryo and Fetus as Crime “Victims” Independent of the Pregnant WomanUVVA would amend the federal criminal code and Uniform Code of Military Justice to create a separate offense if, during the commission of certain federal crimes, an individual causes the death of, or bodily injury to, what sponsors of the bill call a “child in utero” or “unborn child.” Because the bill defines “unborn child” and “child in utero” as “a member of the species homo sapiens, at any stage of development, who is carried in the womb,” UVVA would be the first federal law to recognize a fertilized egg as a crime “victim,” independent of the pregnant woman who suffers the physical injury.

    The Bill is Part of a Concerted Campaign to Redefine Personhood and Undermine Roe v. WadeIn establishing an independent crime based on harm to a fertilized egg, embryo and fetus, as opposed to harm to the woman, the sponsors of UVVA endeavor to undermine constitutional protections of a woman’s right to abortion. The unmistakable premise of the bill is that the fetus is an entity separate from the pregnant woman; the use of the terms “unborn child”1 and “child in utero,” are not calculated to protect pregnant women from violence, but rather to influence the abortion debate, and to undermine the United States Supreme Court’s holding in Roe v. Wade, that the word “person” as used in the Fourteenth Amendment does not include fetuses prior to birth.2 Indeed, this anti-abortion goal was made explicit when Senator Orrin Hatch (R-UT) admitted that “they say it undermines abortion rights. It does.”3

    Attempts to grant greater legal status to the fetus threaten pregnant women’s fundamental rights and, in particular, women’s right of reproductive choice. Treating the fetus as a legal entity separate from the pregnant woman creates the potential for an adversarial relationship between the woman’s health needs and those of her developing fetus. In fact, anti-choice prosecutors have relied on state laws similar to UVVA to attempt to prosecute pregnant women for behavior — such as alcohol use, suicide attempts or drug use — that is potentially harmful to a fetus. One woman was even prosecuted for failure to follow her doctor’s orders to remain on bed-rest.4

    The Bill Does Not Protect Pregnant Women From Violence, or Recognize the Harm to the Pregnant Woman HerselfThe Center supports measures intended to reduce or punish violence against women and that recognize the significant additional injury to a pregnant woman who suffers the loss of — or harm to — her pregnancy. In fact, studies establish that batterers often escalate their violence when their partners become pregnant, and battering becomes more violent and more frequent.5 A 1994 study by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported that at least six percent (6%) of all pregnant women, at least 240,000 pregnant women each year, are battered by their spouses or partners.6 However, this bill would do nothing to stem violence against women. If the sponsors of UVVA were truly concerned with this problem, they would take a lead in supporting increased funding levels for the Violence Against Women Act7 as well as other legislation designed to effectively punish those who injure pregnant women.

    Moreover, in seeking to create a separate offense based on harm to a fetus, UVVA disregards that the real offense is the assault perpetrated on the pregnant woman, and ignores the injury to her due to harm to her wanted pregnancy. Crimes of this nature are more appropriately addressed by enhancing penalties for termination of or injury to a pregnancy – a measure that the sponsors of UVVA have expressly rejected. By treating the “unborn child” – rather than the woman – as the crime victim, the bill devalues and politicizes the woman’s loss.

    In fact, carefully crafted laws that appropriately punish conduct causing loss of a pregnancy have been passed in some states without employing inappropriate and inflammatory language or attempting to elevate the legal status of the fetus. For example, a law in North Carolina8 created an enhanced penalty for battery to a woman that resulted in loss of a pregnancy. By contrast, statutes that attempt to recognize the fetus as a separate entity have resulted in legal and legislative efforts to undermine women’s autonomy, such as the prosecutions of pregnant women described above.9

    In sum, UVVA fails to recognize that injury to a pregnancy is first and foremost an injury to a woman. By drafting a bill that is concerned solely with creating a separate crime perpetrated against the “unborn child,” the sponsors make clear that the real intent of this bill is to advance a political agenda that ignores the rights of women. Therefore, the Center for Reproductive Rights urges opposition to the Unborn Victims of Violence Act.

    From the center for reproductive rights.

  89. political_mom
    Posted May 9, 2007 at 11:13 pm | Permalink

    By the way, this law..the one that allows for prosecuting who cause a miscarriage in a crime such as abuse..

    Kansas: Injury to a pregnant woman during the commission of a felony or misdemeanor which causes a miscarriage results in specific levels of offense severity. Kan. Stat. Ann. ‘ 21-3440 (1997). Also, injury to a pregnant woman through the operation of a motor vehicle which causes a miscarriage results in specific levels of offense severity. Kan. Stat. Ann. ‘ 21-3441 (1997).

    If I understand this correctly, that’s now obsolete and replaced by the UVVA.

    Oh and if you choose to do a homebirth, and you use a Doula, a midwife, or refuse a c-section or any medical care that your doctor prescribes…and the fetus dies…you can be charged with a crime. Your doula can be charged too. Got high blood pressure and you don’t take your meds, don’t seek prenatal care…yup, you can be charged. (I actually have 2 friends this could have put in prison).

  90. Posted May 10, 2007 at 10:11 am | Permalink

    PMom,

    Isn’t it amazing how our fabulously “liberal media” didn’t report on the repeals of 21-3440 and 21-3441? They were informed of those provisions in the so-called “Alexa’s Law”, yet they ignored it.

    Alexa’s Law does two things: One, it declares a fetus to be a “person” for the purposes of prosecuting certain crimes. It says nothing about protecting the mother. Two: Alexa’s Law _repeals_ statutes that provided enhanced penalties for people who injure pregnant women.

    That repeal is a slap in the face of every woman in Kansas. It says that it’s okay to slap them around a little (after all, that’s the man’s privilege), but don’t dare hurt that fetus.

    Alexa’s Law relegates women to being nothing more than containment facilities for fetuses.

  91. political_mom
    Posted May 10, 2007 at 10:14 am | Permalink

    EXACTLY !!!!!!!!thank you.

    For good measure, I hope you post that on today’s open thread.