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		<title>By: GMC70</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/05/newt_not_a_happ/#comment-237646</link>
		<dc:creator>GMC70</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 06:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No blame, Steven, just an observation.  Put down the partisan hat and step back.

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		<title>By: Republican</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/05/newt_not_a_happ/#comment-237645</link>
		<dc:creator>Republican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 06:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gingrich:  Very smart guy, fun to listen to - shouldn&#039;t hold office imo.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gingrich:  Very smart guy, fun to listen to &#8211; shouldn&#8217;t hold office imo.</p>
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		<title>By: cat</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/05/newt_not_a_happ/#comment-237644</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 06:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why am I not surprised that Nathan loves Newt?  The so-calledChrisitan Conservatives all loved Newt because he was their rabid junkyard dog (with all the morals of such a dog).

This group of so-called Godly people worship Newt even though Newt was one of the major characters in the Contract ON America which has brought us the dirtiest politics as we know politics today.  Newt was one of the first Republicans that called others opposing him &#039;unpatriotic&#039; and &#039;unAmerican&#039;. Now where have we seen this strategy played out before - oh yeah, Bush and Company also play that game.

Newt&#039;s biggest feat was brainwashing the so-called Christian Conservatives into his political scheme and somehow try to protray the GOP party as the party of God.

If this was not so tragic, I&#039;d have to laugh.  God gets the blame for alot of stupid things Newt has done.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why am I not surprised that Nathan loves Newt?  The so-calledChrisitan Conservatives all loved Newt because he was their rabid junkyard dog (with all the morals of such a dog).</p>
<p>This group of so-called Godly people worship Newt even though Newt was one of the major characters in the Contract ON America which has brought us the dirtiest politics as we know politics today.  Newt was one of the first Republicans that called others opposing him &#8216;unpatriotic&#8217; and &#8216;unAmerican&#8217;. Now where have we seen this strategy played out before &#8211; oh yeah, Bush and Company also play that game.</p>
<p>Newt&#8217;s biggest feat was brainwashing the so-called Christian Conservatives into his political scheme and somehow try to protray the GOP party as the party of God.</p>
<p>If this was not so tragic, I&#8217;d have to laugh.  God gets the blame for alot of stupid things Newt has done.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Davis</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/05/newt_not_a_happ/#comment-237643</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 06:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;On the contrary- the Clinton campaign was notable for hitting hard, and immediately, always in attack mode. And the Clinton White House set a model that unfortunately may become the rule: the endless political/campaign mode, and the inevitable melding of campaigning with governing.&quot;

Love this.  When are you dumb butts going to quit blaming Bush&#039;s blunders on Clinton.  This is one very sad repeating theme of your ridiculous party.  I have had enough.  America has had enough.

Please keep it up.  You will be thrown in the dust bin of persona non-gratas forever.

Hallelujah - is all I have to say.

&quot;Happy days are here again, the sky above is clear again, happy days are here again...&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;On the contrary- the Clinton campaign was notable for hitting hard, and immediately, always in attack mode. And the Clinton White House set a model that unfortunately may become the rule: the endless political/campaign mode, and the inevitable melding of campaigning with governing.&#8221;</p>
<p>Love this.  When are you dumb butts going to quit blaming Bush&#8217;s blunders on Clinton.  This is one very sad repeating theme of your ridiculous party.  I have had enough.  America has had enough.</p>
<p>Please keep it up.  You will be thrown in the dust bin of persona non-gratas forever.</p>
<p>Hallelujah &#8211; is all I have to say.</p>
<p>&#8220;Happy days are here again, the sky above is clear again, happy days are here again&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: GMC70</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/05/newt_not_a_happ/#comment-237642</link>
		<dc:creator>GMC70</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 05:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WS

On the contrary- the Clinton campaign was notable for hitting hard, and immediately, always in attack mode.  And the Clinton White House set a model that unfortunately may become the rule:  the endless political/campaign mode, and the inevitable melding of campaigning with governing.

Very few things are enduring in this world.  Politics is.  And by the standard of 100-150 years ago, we are in a period of peaceful bliss.  Campaigns were much dirtier then.

The Who were exactly right:  Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.  It has always been so.

No, the Dems were less rancorous because they had become used to being in the majority, relying on machine politics and entrenched constituencies.  With the real competetiveness of the collapse of that seemingly endless majority coalition came the rancor of the campaign, when both parties saw each election as key to control of Congress.

Neither party wears halos here.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WS</p>
<p>On the contrary- the Clinton campaign was notable for hitting hard, and immediately, always in attack mode.  And the Clinton White House set a model that unfortunately may become the rule:  the endless political/campaign mode, and the inevitable melding of campaigning with governing.</p>
<p>Very few things are enduring in this world.  Politics is.  And by the standard of 100-150 years ago, we are in a period of peaceful bliss.  Campaigns were much dirtier then.</p>
<p>The Who were exactly right:  Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.  It has always been so.</p>
<p>No, the Dems were less rancorous because they had become used to being in the majority, relying on machine politics and entrenched constituencies.  With the real competetiveness of the collapse of that seemingly endless majority coalition came the rancor of the campaign, when both parties saw each election as key to control of Congress.</p>
<p>Neither party wears halos here.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/05/newt_not_a_happ/#comment-237641</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 05:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very true WSC.  It used to be that there was a &quot;Freshman Caucus&quot; in the House - all the newbies of BOTH parties as they found their way around.  It was a bi-partisan thing.  Newt eliminated that.  He wanted to indoctrinate new Congressmen immediately; he wanted no bi-partisanship.  We continue to reap the results of that today.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very true WSC.  It used to be that there was a &#8220;Freshman Caucus&#8221; in the House &#8211; all the newbies of BOTH parties as they found their way around.  It was a bi-partisan thing.  Newt eliminated that.  He wanted to indoctrinate new Congressmen immediately; he wanted no bi-partisanship.  We continue to reap the results of that today.</p>
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		<title>By: TRTaliaferro</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/05/newt_not_a_happ/#comment-237640</link>
		<dc:creator>TRTaliaferro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 05:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Today&#039;s posts about Gingrich may reveal something about where this election is headed and may also tell us something about the problem Gingrich has if he tries to apply the Sarkozy strategy.  Let me start by conceding that I don&#039;t follow French politics that close, so I might end up being wrong about this.  In any case, Sarkozy may have succeeded where Gingrich would fail if the Frenchman did not have a lot of baggage from previous political battles to drag him down.  In staking out his territory, therefore, he appeared to be a fresh voice.  Gingrich, on the other hand, try as he might, has the same problem as Hillary Clinton inasmuch as you can&#039;t think of him without remembering the late 90&#039;s.  Not all of that was bad, of course, but every time you think of Newt or Al Gore or Hillary Clinton or Bill Clinton, you are transported back to a time that you may not want to revisit just yet.  I know I don&#039;t.  I actually don&#039;t have all that much against Gingrich or Senator Clinton.  However, I simply don&#039;t like to go backwards.  I want a fresh perspective on things and I want America to go forward.  Much can still be done for the good of the country, and both political parties and everyone in-between have something to contribute to that discussion.  Politicians like Gingrich and Clinton, for me at least, do not bode well for heading off in a new direction.  The imagery is altogether toward the past instead.  We shall see if other voters agree.  If the Republicans put up Gingrich and the Democrats put up Clinton, then it might be said that voters want to rework the old battles.  I hope to see fresh vision and politicians who set our sights on what&#039;s ahead.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today&#8217;s posts about Gingrich may reveal something about where this election is headed and may also tell us something about the problem Gingrich has if he tries to apply the Sarkozy strategy.  Let me start by conceding that I don&#8217;t follow French politics that close, so I might end up being wrong about this.  In any case, Sarkozy may have succeeded where Gingrich would fail if the Frenchman did not have a lot of baggage from previous political battles to drag him down.  In staking out his territory, therefore, he appeared to be a fresh voice.  Gingrich, on the other hand, try as he might, has the same problem as Hillary Clinton inasmuch as you can&#8217;t think of him without remembering the late 90&#8217;s.  Not all of that was bad, of course, but every time you think of Newt or Al Gore or Hillary Clinton or Bill Clinton, you are transported back to a time that you may not want to revisit just yet.  I know I don&#8217;t.  I actually don&#8217;t have all that much against Gingrich or Senator Clinton.  However, I simply don&#8217;t like to go backwards.  I want a fresh perspective on things and I want America to go forward.  Much can still be done for the good of the country, and both political parties and everyone in-between have something to contribute to that discussion.  Politicians like Gingrich and Clinton, for me at least, do not bode well for heading off in a new direction.  The imagery is altogether toward the past instead.  We shall see if other voters agree.  If the Republicans put up Gingrich and the Democrats put up Clinton, then it might be said that voters want to rework the old battles.  I hope to see fresh vision and politicians who set our sights on what&#8217;s ahead.</p>
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		<title>By: WSClark</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/05/newt_not_a_happ/#comment-237639</link>
		<dc:creator>WSClark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 05:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Few will remember that Gingrich was the primary founder of the full contact style of political discourse. He advised his followers to refer to Democrats as &quot;twisted, bizarre and un-American.&quot;

That was the style he developed - not Bill Clinton. Clinton knew how to play political hardball, but Gingrich ratcheted it up several notches.

Impeachment was Gingrich&#039;s finest moment, by his definition.

Unfortunately for him and the GOP, there will be many Democrats that will not forget it.

Newt Gingrich has ensured that a great number of Americans will never vote Republican in their lifetimes.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Few will remember that Gingrich was the primary founder of the full contact style of political discourse. He advised his followers to refer to Democrats as &#8220;twisted, bizarre and un-American.&#8221;</p>
<p>That was the style he developed &#8211; not Bill Clinton. Clinton knew how to play political hardball, but Gingrich ratcheted it up several notches.</p>
<p>Impeachment was Gingrich&#8217;s finest moment, by his definition.</p>
<p>Unfortunately for him and the GOP, there will be many Democrats that will not forget it.</p>
<p>Newt Gingrich has ensured that a great number of Americans will never vote Republican in their lifetimes.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/05/newt_not_a_happ/#comment-237638</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 04:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GMC - I do not recall a scorched earth campaign by the Democrats against the GOP before Newt.  In fact, because Clinton came from the &#039;right&#039; within the democratic Party I recall he reached across the aisle to forge coalitions.

Refresh my memory if Clinton had been carrying out &#039;partisan rancor&#039; against the GOP.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GMC &#8211; I do not recall a scorched earth campaign by the Democrats against the GOP before Newt.  In fact, because Clinton came from the &#8216;right&#8217; within the democratic Party I recall he reached across the aisle to forge coalitions.</p>
<p>Refresh my memory if Clinton had been carrying out &#8216;partisan rancor&#8217; against the GOP.</p>
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		<title>By: GMC70</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/05/newt_not_a_happ/#comment-237637</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 04:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with much of that post, WS.  But &quot;partisan rancor&quot; takes two.  And there are no innocent parties here.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with much of that post, WS.  But &#8220;partisan rancor&#8221; takes two.  And there are no innocent parties here.</p>
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		<title>By: WSClark</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/05/newt_not_a_happ/#comment-237636</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 04:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The desire to impeach William J Clinton was strictly partisan. The GOP turned a mad dog prosecutor loose with a huge budget with marching orders to find something, anything to use against Clinton so that he could be removed from office by Gingrich and his minions.

You may remember that the original charge that Starr was to investigate was the Whitewater land deal. After Clinton left office, Starr&#039;s successor issued his report indicating that there was no wrongdoing by the Clintons regarding the deal.

We will never forget the impeachment of Clinton and we will never forgive the GOP. You had better believe that if McCain gets the GOP nomination, one of the big questions he will have to answer is why he voted for conviction when Clinton was impeached.

We will not forget the partisan rancor that the GOP turned loose on America.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The desire to impeach William J Clinton was strictly partisan. The GOP turned a mad dog prosecutor loose with a huge budget with marching orders to find something, anything to use against Clinton so that he could be removed from office by Gingrich and his minions.</p>
<p>You may remember that the original charge that Starr was to investigate was the Whitewater land deal. After Clinton left office, Starr&#8217;s successor issued his report indicating that there was no wrongdoing by the Clintons regarding the deal.</p>
<p>We will never forget the impeachment of Clinton and we will never forgive the GOP. You had better believe that if McCain gets the GOP nomination, one of the big questions he will have to answer is why he voted for conviction when Clinton was impeached.</p>
<p>We will not forget the partisan rancor that the GOP turned loose on America.</p>
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		<title>By: GMC70</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/05/newt_not_a_happ/#comment-237635</link>
		<dc:creator>GMC70</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 04:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, WS, true enough.  But that is the last bit of consideration that should play a part in decision-making.  Even an impeachment.

ESPECIALLY an impeachment.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, WS, true enough.  But that is the last bit of consideration that should play a part in decision-making.  Even an impeachment.</p>
<p>ESPECIALLY an impeachment.</p>
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		<title>By: WSClark</title>
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		<dc:creator>WSClark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 04:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even a hardcore, dyed in the wool, lifetime dues paying Republican would have to admit that Bill Clinton was far more popular with the American public in 1998 than George W Bush is today.

Opinion polls or not.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even a hardcore, dyed in the wool, lifetime dues paying Republican would have to admit that Bill Clinton was far more popular with the American public in 1998 than George W Bush is today.</p>
<p>Opinion polls or not.</p>
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		<title>By: GMC70</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/05/newt_not_a_happ/#comment-237633</link>
		<dc:creator>GMC70</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 04:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know this is kinda off topic, but I&#039;m so tired of hearing of approval ratings.  I DON&quot;T CARE!!!

1) The &quot;approval&quot; ratings are driven by pollsters, who get any answer they like.  Liars, damn liars, and statisticians.

2)  Any policymaker, whether a President, a member of Congress, or a local DA, who&#039;s decisions are driven by polls or what is popular is not fit to hold office.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this is kinda off topic, but I&#8217;m so tired of hearing of approval ratings.  I DON&#8221;T CARE!!!</p>
<p>1) The &#8220;approval&#8221; ratings are driven by pollsters, who get any answer they like.  Liars, damn liars, and statisticians.</p>
<p>2)  Any policymaker, whether a President, a member of Congress, or a local DA, who&#8217;s decisions are driven by polls or what is popular is not fit to hold office.</p>
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		<title>By: WSClark</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/05/newt_not_a_happ/#comment-237632</link>
		<dc:creator>WSClark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 02:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But it&#039;s politics. What else is new?&quot;

Both impeachments of US Presidents in our history were for partisan, political reasons. That is not what was intended by the Founding Fathers. The GOP conducted a $75 million witch hunt against Clinton, looking for ANY reason to impeach him and remove him from office.

We will never let the architects of that witch hunt pretend that it did not happen. We will never forget that the GOP impeached a president with a 67% approval rating, but gives a pass to one with a 28% rating.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But it&#8217;s politics. What else is new?&#8221;</p>
<p>Both impeachments of US Presidents in our history were for partisan, political reasons. That is not what was intended by the Founding Fathers. The GOP conducted a $75 million witch hunt against Clinton, looking for ANY reason to impeach him and remove him from office.</p>
<p>We will never let the architects of that witch hunt pretend that it did not happen. We will never forget that the GOP impeached a president with a 67% approval rating, but gives a pass to one with a 28% rating.</p>
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		<title>By: Kev</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/05/newt_not_a_happ/#comment-237631</link>
		<dc:creator>Kev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 02:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As low as Bush is- and he is more evil than the meanest viper- Newt cannot say anything after the way he ran around on and then desserted his wife while she was sick with cancer in the hospital. That puts Newt in the same league with Satan himself. He is the worst of the worst. Worse than even most of the rest of the child raping and wife abusing Republicans.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As low as Bush is- and he is more evil than the meanest viper- Newt cannot say anything after the way he ran around on and then desserted his wife while she was sick with cancer in the hospital. That puts Newt in the same league with Satan himself. He is the worst of the worst. Worse than even most of the rest of the child raping and wife abusing Republicans.</p>
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		<title>By: political_mom</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/05/newt_not_a_happ/#comment-237630</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 01:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Newt was a lot of the problem the Repubs are having right now.  Sure, if you want to look to France, by all means do so.  Their conservative is liberal by USA standards.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Newt was a lot of the problem the Repubs are having right now.  Sure, if you want to look to France, by all means do so.  Their conservative is liberal by USA standards.</p>
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		<title>By: GMC70</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/05/newt_not_a_happ/#comment-237629</link>
		<dc:creator>GMC70</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 01:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1) He will not get the nomination, though he&#039;s arguably intellectually the brightest guy out there.  Too much baggage, too many negatives, real or imagined.

2) That&#039;s a two part question.  a) is perjury an impeachable offense?  Yes.  Was THIS perjury one which should have been impeachable?  No.

But it&#039;s politics.  What else is new?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) He will not get the nomination, though he&#8217;s arguably intellectually the brightest guy out there.  Too much baggage, too many negatives, real or imagined.</p>
<p>2) That&#8217;s a two part question.  a) is perjury an impeachable offense?  Yes.  Was THIS perjury one which should have been impeachable?  No.</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s politics.  What else is new?</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/05/newt_not_a_happ/#comment-237628</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 01:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The bummer is that Newt is very bright and, I think, would bring a lot to the table.

Sort of like Nixon - he was potentially a great prsident; unfortunately he allowed Watergate to consume him.
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<p>Sort of like Nixon &#8211; he was potentially a great prsident; unfortunately he allowed Watergate to consume him.</p>
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		<title>By: WSClark</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/05/newt_not_a_happ/#comment-237627</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 01:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was asking an honest question GMC - are okay with the way the GOP handled the impeachment fiasco with Bill Clinton?

Fair enough?

No discussion of Gingrich is possible WITHOUT discussing impeachment. He can&#039;t just sweep it under the rug. He pressed for it, Burton&#039;s subcommittee issued over 1,000 subpoenas, the GOP House of Representatives make it a central part of their agenda in 1998.

Gingrich&#039;s role in the proceedings are part and parcel of who he is.

By some measure, if he gets the nomination of his party for president, don&#039;t you think somebody might bring it up?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was asking an honest question GMC &#8211; are okay with the way the GOP handled the impeachment fiasco with Bill Clinton?</p>
<p>Fair enough?</p>
<p>No discussion of Gingrich is possible WITHOUT discussing impeachment. He can&#8217;t just sweep it under the rug. He pressed for it, Burton&#8217;s subcommittee issued over 1,000 subpoenas, the GOP House of Representatives make it a central part of their agenda in 1998.</p>
<p>Gingrich&#8217;s role in the proceedings are part and parcel of who he is.</p>
<p>By some measure, if he gets the nomination of his party for president, don&#8217;t you think somebody might bring it up?</p>
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		<title>By: GMC70</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/05/newt_not_a_happ/#comment-237626</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 01:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WS

Didn&#039;t say or imply that.  That wasn&#039;t the point.  You&#039;re changing the subject again.

Just get the facts right.
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<p>Didn&#8217;t say or imply that.  That wasn&#8217;t the point.  You&#8217;re changing the subject again.</p>
<p>Just get the facts right.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/05/newt_not_a_happ/#comment-237625</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 00:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good points TRT.  Consider Giuliana as you noted.  In his case, since he has NOT played &#039;holier then thou&#039; I consider his personal issues to be private.  Had Newt not reveled so much in the Clinton witch-hunt I might give him a pass too.

It&#039;s kind of like Rush calling drug addicts &quot;dregs of humanity.&quot;  Well, now that he is one of them then that makes him a self-described &quot;dreg&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points TRT.  Consider Giuliana as you noted.  In his case, since he has NOT played &#8216;holier then thou&#8217; I consider his personal issues to be private.  Had Newt not reveled so much in the Clinton witch-hunt I might give him a pass too.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s kind of like Rush calling drug addicts &#8220;dregs of humanity.&#8221;  Well, now that he is one of them then that makes him a self-described &#8220;dreg&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: TRTaliaferro</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/05/newt_not_a_happ/#comment-237624</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 00:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With Brownlee&#039;s post about Gingrich, you potentially have a lot to kick around.  You could talk, for example, about the richness of Newt&#039;s advice to run against Rove&#039;s &#039;04 strategy, which arguably only sought to magnify the moral high ground effluvium that the former Speaker had promoted in previous campaigns.  You could also do a variation on the topic and agree with &quot;XXX&quot; and Ben at the same time because, finally, how the hell do you let Gingrich off the hook when you know the kind of games he played in the past, all the while recognizing, just as &quot;XXX&quot; does, that half the talented people in this country can&#039;t run for office if they want to, if only because, at one time or another, they shot too much tequila at some ridiculous bachelor party back in the 80&#039;s and an old rival made a home movie.

At this point, of course, the major candidates get it out in the open right from the start.  George W. copped to the booze problem and people let it go, at least in part because he believes in Christianity.  It&#039;s hard to tell how a recovering boozer would play if the guy just said he quit and that was that.  What would happen if a candidate went on stage at some debate and admitted that half the time he truly can&#039;t decide if God exists? A lot of people kick it around in private.  You start at a young age with the eternal questions.  It&#039;s part of life.  Yet a candidate is called upon to walk on stage and somehow have a mindset, a couple of sentences at the ready to box it up.  &quot;I believe this or I believe that.&quot;  Done and done.  Maybe it&#039;s that simple and maybe it&#039;s not.  It&#039;s possible to be a person of faith and to question that faith from time to time.  Priests have written books on the subject.  Would a presidential candidate admit it though? Probably not.  In America, it&#039;s safer to tell the story.

Now take Obama.  We know he snorted coke a long time ago, and we know he still smokes and he&#039;s trying to quit.  Can you get elected president as a smoker? It&#039;s a shallow world we live in if Americans hold it against him: Churchill smoked cigars on a daily basis and Hitler probably never torched a thing.  Rest assured, however, that if Obama makes the finals, the shallow smoking thing will be a dilemma.

How about Rudy? People are having doubts about his family life, as if they know enough about it to make a judgment.  In a separate post, Brownlee referenced a Dickens novel.  What do you learn from Dickens? Well, you learn plenty, but you certainly get the message in full that there is much more to people than meets the eye.  The inner life is a mystery.  Great people sometimes emerge from early mistakes.  They have the problem of being blind to their own defects but make progress and gain awareness as life goes on.

What&#039;s this mean for Gingrich? Anybody&#039;s guess.  Fred Thompson has momentum at the moment.  It looks like he can walk between the wings of the Republican Party.

Yet we haven&#039;t even launched the Kentucky Derby.  People are still trying to find a seat.  The track looks muddy and it&#039;s raining.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With Brownlee&#8217;s post about Gingrich, you potentially have a lot to kick around.  You could talk, for example, about the richness of Newt&#8217;s advice to run against Rove&#8217;s &#8216;04 strategy, which arguably only sought to magnify the moral high ground effluvium that the former Speaker had promoted in previous campaigns.  You could also do a variation on the topic and agree with &#8220;XXX&#8221; and Ben at the same time because, finally, how the hell do you let Gingrich off the hook when you know the kind of games he played in the past, all the while recognizing, just as &#8220;XXX&#8221; does, that half the talented people in this country can&#8217;t run for office if they want to, if only because, at one time or another, they shot too much tequila at some ridiculous bachelor party back in the 80&#8217;s and an old rival made a home movie.</p>
<p>At this point, of course, the major candidates get it out in the open right from the start.  George W. copped to the booze problem and people let it go, at least in part because he believes in Christianity.  It&#8217;s hard to tell how a recovering boozer would play if the guy just said he quit and that was that.  What would happen if a candidate went on stage at some debate and admitted that half the time he truly can&#8217;t decide if God exists? A lot of people kick it around in private.  You start at a young age with the eternal questions.  It&#8217;s part of life.  Yet a candidate is called upon to walk on stage and somehow have a mindset, a couple of sentences at the ready to box it up.  &#8220;I believe this or I believe that.&#8221;  Done and done.  Maybe it&#8217;s that simple and maybe it&#8217;s not.  It&#8217;s possible to be a person of faith and to question that faith from time to time.  Priests have written books on the subject.  Would a presidential candidate admit it though? Probably not.  In America, it&#8217;s safer to tell the story.</p>
<p>Now take Obama.  We know he snorted coke a long time ago, and we know he still smokes and he&#8217;s trying to quit.  Can you get elected president as a smoker? It&#8217;s a shallow world we live in if Americans hold it against him: Churchill smoked cigars on a daily basis and Hitler probably never torched a thing.  Rest assured, however, that if Obama makes the finals, the shallow smoking thing will be a dilemma.</p>
<p>How about Rudy? People are having doubts about his family life, as if they know enough about it to make a judgment.  In a separate post, Brownlee referenced a Dickens novel.  What do you learn from Dickens? Well, you learn plenty, but you certainly get the message in full that there is much more to people than meets the eye.  The inner life is a mystery.  Great people sometimes emerge from early mistakes.  They have the problem of being blind to their own defects but make progress and gain awareness as life goes on.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s this mean for Gingrich? Anybody&#8217;s guess.  Fred Thompson has momentum at the moment.  It looks like he can walk between the wings of the Republican Party.</p>
<p>Yet we haven&#8217;t even launched the Kentucky Derby.  People are still trying to find a seat.  The track looks muddy and it&#8217;s raining.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/05/newt_not_a_happ/#comment-237623</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 00:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the reference in GMC&#039;s Wiki article:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.salon.com/news/1998/08/28news.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.salon.com/news/1998/08/28news.html&lt;/a&gt;

&quot;The most notorious incident in Gingrich&#039;s marriage -- first reported by David Osborne in Mother Jones magazine in 1984 -- was when he cornered Jackie in her hospital room where she was recovering from uterine cancer surgery and insisted on discussing the terms of the divorce he was seeking.Shortly after that infamous encounter, Gingrich refused to pay his alimony and child-support payments. The First Baptist Church in his hometown had to take up a collection to support the family Gingrich had deserted.&quot;

What a guy!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the reference in GMC&#8217;s Wiki article:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.salon.com/news/1998/08/28news.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.salon.com/news/1998/08/28news.html</a></p>
<p>&#8220;The most notorious incident in Gingrich&#8217;s marriage &#8212; first reported by David Osborne in Mother Jones magazine in 1984 &#8212; was when he cornered Jackie in her hospital room where she was recovering from uterine cancer surgery and insisted on discussing the terms of the divorce he was seeking.Shortly after that infamous encounter, Gingrich refused to pay his alimony and child-support payments. The First Baptist Church in his hometown had to take up a collection to support the family Gingrich had deserted.&#8221;</p>
<p>What a guy!</p>
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		<title>By: WSClark</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/05/newt_not_a_happ/#comment-237622</link>
		<dc:creator>WSClark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 00:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, GMC you are okay with the way the GOP handled the impeachment fiasco with Bill Clinton? I DO recall the moral outrage that Gingrich exhibited during the Monica issue, claiming that Clinton was morally unfit to serve. I also recall Dan Burton (R - Watermelon) calling Clinton a scumbag. I further recall Livingston insisting that Clinton should resign, as Livingston was resigning after being exposed for having multiple affairs.

At the time of impeachment, most of the &quot;outrage&quot; was focused on the affair. It was when the attempt to remove Clinton from office failed and Republican infidelities were exposed, that the GOP began it&#039;s CYA campaign of insisting that it had &quot;nothing to do with&quot; the infidelity.

And, by the way, why did Gingrich state that he had set himself up for a charge of hypocrisy during impeachment, if his own affair had come to light?


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, GMC you are okay with the way the GOP handled the impeachment fiasco with Bill Clinton? I DO recall the moral outrage that Gingrich exhibited during the Monica issue, claiming that Clinton was morally unfit to serve. I also recall Dan Burton (R &#8211; Watermelon) calling Clinton a scumbag. I further recall Livingston insisting that Clinton should resign, as Livingston was resigning after being exposed for having multiple affairs.</p>
<p>At the time of impeachment, most of the &#8220;outrage&#8221; was focused on the affair. It was when the attempt to remove Clinton from office failed and Republican infidelities were exposed, that the GOP began it&#8217;s CYA campaign of insisting that it had &#8220;nothing to do with&#8221; the infidelity.</p>
<p>And, by the way, why did Gingrich state that he had set himself up for a charge of hypocrisy during impeachment, if his own affair had come to light?</p>
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