Republicans have a growing sense of gloom and doom about the unpopular Bush presidency and its damage to their party, reportsBloomberg News.
Witness the 11 GOP House members who confronted Bush in the Oval Office last week to tell him he had lost credibility on the Iraq war. Many party stalwarts are going public with their worries.
"The country doesn’t believe George W. Bush, it doesn’t trust him, and with 19 months to go it’s only going to get worse," said Ed Rollins, a Republican strategist who ran Ronald Reagan’s 1984 presidential campaign. "There is nothing the president can do to get his (poll) numbers back up."
That’s a dark cloud hanging over the GOP presidential field.
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I love it when they eat their own. Also note this:
Dobson says he won’t vote for Giuliani
http://www.kansas.com/wireupdates/story/72892.html
“The country doesn’t believe George W. Bush, it doesn’t trust him, and with 19 months to go it’s only going to get worse,” said Ed Rollins, a Republican strategist who ran Ronald Reagan’s 1984 presidential campaign.”
Just because it bears repeating.
bushco is the BEST ambassador for the Democratic Party!
Would bring a smile if it wasn’t so serious and harmful to our country.
Yeah Linda, sad isnt it.
The shrubster IS the best fund raiser and recruiter for the Democrats.
Just like phred phelps is the best fund raiser and vote getter for the lgbt community.
They must both be so proud…
No, I think it is more of the Liberal Left MSM constant drum beat that leads to the perception.
Most everyone that calls themselves a Republican realizes the MSM is the “poison in the punch” and know that things aren’t as bad as they say it is.
Responsible Journalism has become political thuggery and in some cases out right character assassins.
“Responsible Journalism has become political thuggery and in some cases out right character assassins.”
Just like the swift boaters I guess.
Something more than non-binding votes of no-confidence on the Iraq war and AG AG needs to be done. I used to think that our government/constitution could withstand the treachery of any one man – to wit: Nixon. What GW has managed to do makes me wonder about that optimism.
There should be a mechanism to fire the president when he is as incompetent as this one is. The firing offense should not just be high crimes and misdemeanors.
I know we can vote them out. We failed to do that once.
I would like to know how the 28 percenters can defend this specific president and not just the office. He seems pretty indefensible to me.
Agreed Steven. And I wonder how democrats can justify NOT impeaching this crime cabal.
GMC was correct. Meet the new boss same as the old boss.
They all serve the same masters. Big oil, big ag, big pharma…
And even the conservative icon Pat Buchanan says Ron Paul was speaking “intolerable truths”.
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/column.aspx?UrlTitle...
“But Who Was Right — Rudy or Ron?By Patrick J. Buchanan
Ron Paul says Osama bin Laden is delighted we invaded Iraq.
Does the man not have a point? The United States is now tied down in a bloody guerrilla war in the Middle East and increasingly hated in Arab and Islamic countries where we were once hugely admired as the first and greatest of the anti-colonial nations. Does anyone think that Osama is unhappy with what is happening to us in Iraq?
Of the 10 candidates on stage in South Carolina, Dr. Paul alone opposed the war. He alone voted against the war. Have not the last five years vindicated him, when two-thirds of the nation now agrees with him that the war was a mistake, and journalists and politicians left and right are babbling in confession, “If I had only known then what I know now …”
Rudy implied that Ron Paul was unpatriotic to suggest the violence against us out of the Middle East may be in reaction to U.S. policy in the Middle East. Was President Hoover unpatriotic when, the day after Pearl Harbor, he wrote to friends, “You and I know that this continuous putting pins in rattlesnakes finally got this country bitten.”
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Ron Paul is no TV debater. But up on that stage in Columbia, he was speaking intolerable truths. Understandably, Republicans do not want him back, telling the country how the party blundered into this misbegotten war.
By all means, throw out of the debate the only man who was right from the beginning on Iraq.”
I submit there has never been an office of the president who stuck by appointees who had so completely failed to do their jobs.
Rumsfeld – stayed on a two full years after he lost credibility
Wolfowitz – promoted after the resounding success of Iraq war planning
Rice – promoted after doing so well on national security prior to 9/11.
AG AG – promoted to current post and defended after it has been at least partially shown that he turned the Dept of Defense into a partisan free-for-all arena.
There are more examples than this endless space allows for. Chronyism of this magnitude is simply not good for our nation.
Shades of Bill Clinton? I wonder what the republicans have to say about Rudy and his draft dodging?
“Speaking about terrorism and the Iraq war last week, Giuliani boasted, “It is something I understand better than anyone else running for president.”
But it was draft deferments that kept Giuliani, 62, out of Vietnam while he attended law school.
He was granted a 2-A occupational deferment for his job as a law clerk in 1969 after his boss, the late Manhattan federal Judge Lloyd MacMahon, wrote a letter to the local draft board – a move criticized years later as rare and questionable.
Law clerks were not on the 1968 list of critical jobs that qualified for occupational deferments.
When the deferment expired in 1970, Giuliani became susceptible again – but lucked out with such a high draft number that it would have been unnecessary to attempt to continue his exemption. He was never called.
Giuliani “has made it clear that if he had been called up, he would have served,” Giuliani spokeswoman Katie Levinson told New York magazine. He was opposed to the war in Vietnam on “strategic and tactical” grounds,” she added, although she wouldn’t offer specifics.
“Voters will choose the next commander-in-chief based on their whole record, and we believe the mayor’s record speaks for itself.”
http://www.nypost.com/seven/04152007/news/regionalnews/...
Well ya know, Steven, cronies are the only ones who would soil their reputations by defending bushco to the death.
Now we know why they value loyalty so much. Reminds me of the Sopranos. And just like that show, you can see why loyalty to bushco equals career death if not actual death.
Reading a Republican trying to defend Bush at this point is hilarious. The finger points to everything from “the Democrats do it too” to “everything is going great in Iraq” to “Bush isn’t unpopular, it is the media that makes him look that way.”
Hilarious.
And if those lines don’t work, yell Bill Clinton! 9/11! World War II!
And the beat just goes on and on and on.
Any bets that AG AG won’t resign until the August recess? Bush could then appoint another cronie without having to bother with the inconvenience of congressional oversight.
I reckon that no president, in at least recent history, has ever needed a cronie at the AG post more than Bush does now.
“No, I think it is more of the Liberal Left MSM constant drum beat that leads to the perception.” – Republican
Or could it be….what was that thing……..OH YEAH, ***********REALITY***********
You know, the thing ‘most Republicans’ constantly avoid.
They want to justify bad behavior by pointing to other bad behavior. That is something that my 5 year old nephew does all the time.
Wayreth – my 5-year-old grandkids try to od that – they get smacked for it!
No farmgrrl, Swiftboaters is one group against one man.
MSM Liberal Left News Organizations are multi-formed Corporations of hundreds of News outlets with very biased views.
The problem the MSM media is having now, is the Internet. Anyone can check and verify their stories with the same or alternative links.
Their credibility is plummeting as their editorials get called on the carpet who actually check the facts.
We’re getting to the truth, despite all distracting noise.
I watched the last 70 minutes of the Columbia debate and the entire post-debate show. Ron Paul won. Fox, the next day, posted numbers that made Romney the “debate winner”. These numbers were fabricated, according to statistical analysis.
This is why inciteful people call Fox News “Faux News”. It is why honest conservative owners of the Wall Street Journal have rebuffed Rupert Murdoch’s extremely-rich payoff bid to buy their paper. He ran up against conservatives who have principles.
Paul’s debate victory means that in a republican system, he should be posed every question given to Romney and Guliani. He is a frontrunner.
“After the debate, on Fox New’s Hannity and Colmes, came one of those delicious moments on live television. As Michael Steele, a GOP spokesman, was saying that Paul should probably be cut out of future GOP debates, the running tally of Fox News viewers was showing Ron Paul with 30%, the winner of the debate.
ahttp://www.townhall.com/Columnists/PatrickJBuchanan/2007/05/18/but_who_was_right_–_rudy_or_ron
Yeah, Ron Paul should be cut out of future debates, because he’s the winner of the debate.
That’s not demonstrative of a republican government, it’s demonstrative of anti-republican, Nazi /Communist / pre-Enlightenment ideology.
“MSM Liberal Left News Organizations are multi-formed Corporations of hundreds of News outlets with very biased views.”
Translation: they don’t agree with republicant.
GS,
Why don’t you explain why Kansans don’t deserve a presidential primary caucus/party party-delegate election. Just explain to the readers here why Kansans must be disenfranchised.
Shrub doesn’t reflect badly on the Republic Party; George WMD Bush is exactly what the GOP wanted. They’re getting hinky, now, because the natural consequences of their grab for power is coming back to bite them in the ass.
Republics never wanted to end abortion; they wanted the issue. It could fire up the “christian” right and get them to vote against anyone the GOP could portray as a “baby-killer.”
Republics never really believed in a balanced budget; it’d interfere with no-bid contracts for Halliburton and other GOP cronies.
Republics never meant it when they claimed they’d reduce intrusion of government in individuals’ lives; it was cover for their decimation of the Bill of Rights.
Shrub was telling the GOP lie in the 2000 campaign when he said he objected to Nation-Building and “wouldn’t commit American troops to a foreign conflict without an exit strategy.” And Republics knew it; at least the new-cons knew that the lies he was telling wouldn’t affect their war-profiteering.
The Republics controlled Congress for 12 years, six of those with a lock on the Executive and Judicial Branches of government. Roe v. Wade is still the law; the National Debt has trebled; the 10 Commandments aren’t posted on every court house wall; Wal-Mart employs more illegal Mexicans than ever before. Everything, *EVERYTHING* the Republic Party ever promised its faithful has been betrayed.
Poor ol’ Shrub doesn’t understand the animosity his party now displays. He’s done exactly what they wanted him to do.
Back in Texas, Karl Rove hit upon his winning philosophy of winning elections. By definition, 50% of Americans are below-average in intelligence. Combine that 50% with the corrupt and you’ve got a consistent winning majority.
What Rove didn’t count on was sometimes even the stupid people can learn. He’s lost a big chunk of the 50% who are lower in intelligence because even they know the difference between getting pissed on and a thundershower. George WMD Bush’s approval ratings today is a coalition of the corrupt who didn’t get what they wanted from the Halliburton-favored policies and the stupid who just don’t get it. In the 1980s, Jerry Falwell defended Ronald Reagan’s deficit spending because “Jesus is coming soon! We won’t have to pay off the National Debt!”
Guess what?
Jerry’s gone and Jesus ain’t here and the American people crave someone who can make government and society work for a living. The only-est people who are offering any solutions are Democrats.
If we didn’t spend FIVE-BILLION-DOLLARS A MONTH to kill Iraqis, perhaps the people of the United States could expect to receive competent healthcare when they need it. If we weren’t spending FIVE-BILLION-DOLLARS-A-MONTH to blow up the homes and shops of Baghdad residents, perhaps some American scientist or engineer could come up with a way to make the oil beneath the Middle East less important to prosperity in the United States. (Why did God put *our* oil under *their* land?! “Intelligent design?!”)
America used to be a good idea. It was a great idea until George WMD Bush got ahold of it. But the last good idea Shrub had was his plan to avoid National Guard service in the 1970s. He’s screwed up every other idea he’s had his hands on ever since… from Arbusto Oil, Inc. to trading away Sammy Sosa.
The Republic Party put George WMD Bush in charge of the most powerful position on the planet.
Shrub is most certainly *NOT* “hurting the GOP.” It’s exactly what they said they wanted. Now they have to live with it.
And if the rest of us hope to live, we must reject what the Republic Party advocates.
Bravo LTPWell said! Now if someone would just explain to me how Operation Resue is not a terrorist organization I could have a great weekend.
Man, it must suk to be a republican right now.Bush has had it. Done. Finito.
Republican, I feel your pain, but how do you blame Bush’s downfall on the MSM? Aren’t you conservative types always saying Fux is the most-watched network? Wouldn’t that make them MSM? What is there good to say about Bush? What is it you think he’s REALLY accomplished?
On the otherhand, look what he’s screwed up.
I’m reposting from the Prince Harry not worth the Risk blog in response to GS who said I “exuded confusion on all fronts”.
This related to my being against the invasion of Iraq, but my son being scheduled to go there:
GS,
My son is in the Army MC. He has been trained to bind his compatriots’ wounds and save lives. He wants to go to PA school, either in the military or after he gets out, and spend the rest of his life in the healing profession.
I’m not for this war but my son is doing a noble thing–helping other people– and I support him. Many, many parents of servicemen and service women aren’t for this war, but appreciate their children’s noble sacrifice serving our country.
You need to think about why we are in Iraq. We went to Afghanistan to dismantle al Quaeda in order to prevent more 9/11’s. That made sense.
In contrast, the war in Iraq has never been explained by the Bush administration, except for WMDs that didn’t exist.
We are not in Iraq to bring Western democracy there. Imposing democracy by force is an oxymoron. This isn’t how the Middle East.
In the Middle East, strongmen don’t serve 4-year or 8-year terms in office and then play golf or participate in global humanitarian missions. They rule until they die of natural causes, become too senile to rule, get assassinated, or overthrown.
How do we know that we aren’t in Iraq to bring it democracy? Because our strongest Middle Eastern ally, after Israel, is Saudi Arabia. The House of Saud runs “its’” (owned) country as a non-democratic entity. Women there have no rights. A number of years ago, an American woman married a Saudi man here. They had two girls, then got divorced. She got sole custody, the father got visitation rights. The father, on pretext said he wanted to take the girls to the zoo. He kidnapped the girls, and using passports for them provided by the Saudi government, loaded them on a plane and took them back to his country. He committed a felony here.
The girls, two American-born citizens, could not come home. One of them was married off through an arrangement made by her father, in which she had no say. That’s slavery. (google Roush kidnapping Saudi girls)
Due to America’s foreign-oil dependence and trade deficit, Saudi royals have exchanged dollars for shareholder stakes in American industries and banking. They own more American assets than the “bottom” 40% of Americans. These Americans just live here. Foreigners own their country.
Is there any possibility that these foreign owners have at some points exerted pressure to transfer American corporations’ manufacturing to China, so that their investment money can be multiplied, relative to employing Americans in these corporations? If you don’t believe in democracy, but do crave money and power, what would you do?
In 1973 in the wake of the Yom Kippur War, in which Israel was attacked by Egypt and Syria, the House of Saud was very unhappy. The Israelis were using American-provided weapons and intelsat data to defeat the Muslims.
So the House of Saud spearheaded an OPEC-cartel oil embargo. Our nation’s economy was totally disrupted. We went into a debilitating period of stagflation due to fuel price tripling that impacted every sector of our economy, which took 8 years to overcome.
Was this an act of war by the House of Saud? Should we have sent 500,000 troops to that country, taken over the oil and sent a message to the rest of OPEC to keep the taps flowing? Maybe that would have been a justifiable action. But we couldn’t, because we were bogged down in Vietnam, and we couldn’t have sent men and materiel to Saudi Arabia that we didn’t have to send.
In any case, we’re not in Iraq to democratize the Middle East.
I thought went there to capture Iraqi oil, but this may be an error. The war destabilized the world oil market. It generated billions of dollars of windfall profits for American oil companies, billions of dollars of contracts for Halliburton, and close to a quarter-TRILLION dollars in windfall revenue for Saudi princes. Much of which is going to be used to buy more of America.
Why do we have this sudden “illegal immigration” crisis, focusing on poor, hardworking peasants who just want to achieve the American Middle Class Dream? Because Americans need to be distracted from the issue of the sell-off of their country by our nation’s wealthy elite to other countries’ wealthy elites.
GS, to finish, I’m going to tell you one more thing. Saddam was a dictator. Sometimes he was cruel. But he was a political prisoner for 4 years. He knew his territory and people. Under his leadership women were enabled to attend co-ed universities and become doctors, school teachers (of both boys and girls), professors, administrators and managers. They didn’t have to cover their faces. They drove cars.
You won’t find these advancements in Saudi Arabia, under the leadership of “our friends”.
Iraq has definitely hurt the Republican party. Americans don’t have the patience for a struggle that can’t show progress by numbers on a scoreboard, or time left left in the 3rd quarter of the war. A lesson to be remembered in this day and age.
But regardless, the general principles of the Republican party remain, whether or not they have been properly executed by the leaders in charge. Limited government, traditional values, respect for life, a strong national defense, and patriotism are all values that the majority of Americans share.
I think the left will take any electoral progress they make of this to be an endorsement of their agenda by the American people. They will overplay their hand and show their true colors.
To their detriment.
Americans don’t have the patience for a struggle that can’t show progress by numbers on a scoreboardPosted by: outlander | May 18, 2007 at 03:18 PM
Outlander,
Americans don’t have the patience for being constantly lied to, spun, and ignored for 6 years.
Tom,
You mean the lies told by Democrats in this video?http://republikan.typepad.com/republikansan/2007/04/democratic_part.html
You notice the Democrats didn’t start whining until Kerry lost their second attempt at gaining the office of the President of the United States.
Then, the whine machine went into high speed spin.
The Democrats will, in the next year, have the very statements they made about the war thrown in their face time after time as is shown in the video.
Then, the American people will find out who are the real liars, the Democrats.
Republican,
Is there a transcript? I have zero desire to download and sit through a video.
I think Nathan posted a transcript several times, not sure where he got it.
I cannot stand the Republican Party anyway so whoever helps destroy it would do all of us a big favour. Hopefully Bush will do for it what Hoover did and put it back to sleep for about 40 years so the rest of us can get back to making America a nation of fairness, justice and liberty again. A nation that builds and not destroys. A nation that dreams and acts on those dreams. A nation that once had the guts to say we would put a man on the moon in 10 years and did so. A nation that would have the guts to say “we will find a cure for cancer in 10 years” and do so. A nation that built an interstate highway system that is the envy of the world when the nay sayers said “it cannot be done”. I see a day when America can match that but building a high speed electric train network that can get you from downtown Wichita to downtown Dallas in 2 hours or less. I see a day when we build 100 or more nuclear power plants to power the country with safe and clean domestic energy. I see a day when we mandate 50 MPG on all cars and SUVs and we tell the Arab sheiks to kiss our collective asses because we don’t need your stinkin oil no more. But we will never get there with the Repukes in charge. Maybe the Repukes can run the local animal shelter or something but they’d mess that up too. They’d probably shoot the animals.
Hopefully Bush will drag the Evil Cabal back to permanent minority status again.
And I would advise the Democrat that wins in 2008 to make sure and have the White House and Air Force One fumigated to remove the stench of the pigs that have occupied them for 8 years.
In terms of “W” and WMDs, could someone explain these things? Why did the European Union find Iraqi WMDs? Why did they watch as Syria tested them in Sudan during the summer of 2004? Why did Libya admit to many tons of WMDs materials in 2004 and allow UN / EU inspections? Can you explain why the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists mentioned Saddam’s atomic program in 1998? Most of these articles are archived and may require a registration, which is not malicious, but allows you to access their web sites.
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1998 article from Bulletin of Atomic Scientists on Saddam’s secret programhttp://www.thebulletin.org/article.php?art_ofn=so98hamza
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Dutch role in nuclear deals with countries such as Libya(and the article mentions Iraq)http://www.expatica.com/source/site_article.asp?channel_id=2&story_id=4878
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Syria’s recent testing of chemical weapons WMDs in Sudanhttp://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_world/view/106666/1/.html
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European Union versus Syria over chemical weapon WMDs?http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?node=admin/registration/register&destination=register&nextstep=gather&application=reg30-nation&applicationURL=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A59724-2004Apr7.htmlhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A59724-2004Apr7?language=printerhttp://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L28606670.htm(just how did Syria get chemical weapons to begin with?)
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Al Qaeda’s poison gas in Jordan (next to Iraq — western border):http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110005016http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/22/AR2005062202501_pf.html
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Moving banned items across the borderhttp://washingtontimes.com/national/20040816-011235-4438r.htm
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Iraqi Engines in Jordan?http://daily.webshots.com/content/ap/current/h52393407.html
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UN’s own report on things leaving Iraq:http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/10/international/middleeast/10nati.htmlPrinter-friendlyhttp://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/10/international/middleeast/10nati.html?pagewanted=print&position=http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,158470,00.html
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Europeans’ admission to uranium claim:http://news.ft.com/servlet/ContentServer?pagename=FT.com/StoryFT/FullStory&c=StoryFT&cid=1087373295002&p=1012571727092
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Uranium in Iraq:http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/07/politics/07NUKE.htmlprinter friendly:http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F60910FB3F5F0C748CDDAE0894DC404482
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CIA recruited Saddam’s foreign ministerhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=UVDDPCMUIOQZJQFIQMGSFFWAVCBQWIV0?xml=/news/2006/03/22/wirq22.xml&sSheet=/news/2006/03/22/ixworld.html
(what’s this about chemical WMD stuff?)
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Sarin WMD warheads:http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,124576,00.html
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Al Qaeda and Iraq:http://www.adnki.com/index_2Level.php?cat=Terrorism&loid=8.0.169852178&par=0#http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5326544/http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7369892/site/newsweek/http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,1-1167096,00.htmlhttp://www.memri.org/bin/opener_latest.cgi?ID=SD91205
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Syria and nuclear scientistshttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/09/26/wiran26.xml&sSheet=/portal/2004/09/26/ixportaltop.html
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Libya’s 22 tons of Mustard Gas (may have to look in archives for this):http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-gas6mar06,1,1493912,print.story?coll=la-home-world(just who were they going to kill, and just who supplied them with the materials to make them?)
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Libya’s plutonium:http://portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/02/21/wlibya21.xml
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Libyan missing nuclear devices:http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A63785-2004May28?language=printer
Original URL:http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A63785-2004May28.html(just who taught the Libyans to make these?)
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Iran with weapons grade uranium and plutonium (Iran is just east of Iraq):http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/11/international/middleeast/11NUKE.html?pagewanted=print&position=http://www.voanews.com/article.cfm?objectID=42DF9A83-393D-4255-815D684FE624E594http://www.janes.com/security/international_security/news/jdw/jdw040810_1_n.shtmlhttp://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=5802133http://portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/07/27/wiran27.xml
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WMDs lost or found:http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=13168
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Sudan orders Syrian WMD out of countryhttp://www.menewsline.com/stories/2004/april/04_23_2.html
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WMD plans and preparations:http://news.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=383842004http://news.scotsman.com/print.cfm?id=383842004&referringtemplate=http%3A%2F%2Fnews%2Escotsman%2Ecom%2Finternational%2Ecfm&referringquerystring=id%3D383842004
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Did bunkers hold WMDs?http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/03/31/1080544556813.html?from=storyrhs
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Rape photos:http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/articles/10775392?source=TiL
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Why UN Inspectors stopped WMD hunthttp://news.independent.co.uk/world/politics/story.jsp?story=633667
Not the first time the UN Inspectors have been threatened, as was the case some times in the 1990s:
If Saddam Hussein had WMD or moved them to Syria, why hasn’t the Bush Administration publicized this information as proof that the invasion was justified?
Why would they sit on this, unless this is just more Rush O’Hannity nonsense?
I think that it is much more noteworthy that even Bush and the Pentagon say that Iraq did not have WMD and there was no al Qaeda – Iraq connection.
WSClark,
If nuclear weapons have been moved to a less secure place like Syria, would you announce it to the world?
Not saying that they were moved, but announcing the location of Nuclear Weapons is an open invitation for disaster. If Hannity or Limbaugh got some inside information on this and revealed, shame on them.
In regards to the past 2 days I now must state that due to what I have seen, I as well am also forced to call for the immediate impeachment of President Bush.
If this bill does get through and signed it WILL be the end of the Republican party as it is now known. Maybe sometime in the future some REAL conservatives will step forward. Until that day though…
There was NEVER any evidence ANYWHERE that Saddam Hussein had operational nuclear weapons, Republican.
Not even the most jaded right wing conspiracy theorist makes that claim.
And how on Earth would Hannity or Limbaugh get that information when the US government could not.
And of course, WHY would Saddam move his WMD when faced with an invasion that would overthrow his government and most likely lead to his and his sons execution?
Logically, if he had WMD, he would have used them against our forces when we invaded.
…and by some polls the publics opinion of Congress is even lower then their opinion of Bush.
hmmmmm…..
If this bill does get through and signed it WILL be the end of the Republican party as it is now known.?????????????????????Posted by: Gene Raston | May 18, 2007 at 06:53 PM
I assume that you refer to the immigration bill.
If so, then I doubt the endtime is held out exclusively to the GOP. Dems will pay, too.
Big time.
Illegal is illegal, period. THAT’s a given.
From what I have read, there is just no chance that this Immigration Amnesty bill will ever get through the House. Pelosi has already said that she will not even bring it to the floor of the House unless George can guarantee 70 Republican votes. Harry Reid is not backing the bill, so Senate passage is unlikely.
This bill is DOA.
What do all these beliefs have in common?
Global warming isn’t happening or if it is happening, it’s not because of anything humankind has done. It’s all just a Mainstream Media plot.
We’re winning in Iraq. The reason people think were not is just a MSM plot.
President Bush is a great world leader. People would know this if it weren’t for the MSM plot.
They are all positions held by Republican . . . and they show how the reich-wing has totally broken with reality . . .
When Clinton had a sleazy affair with an intern, we Dems were not so out of touch with reality that we thought it wasn’t going to hurt us.
Clinton’s affair is why we’re not saying “President Gore” right now.
The difference is that we understood and acknowledged Clinton’s wrongdoing and stupidity.
Republicans? Nope. Just deny, deny, deny reality . . .
You know, a lot of right wingers have maintained that the scene on the flight deck of the USS Lincoln in May 2003 was normal for a ship returning from a mission. They say that absolutely, the banner stating “Mission Accomplished” was in reference to the SHIP returning from a successful mission, and not George W Bush stating that the Iraq War mission was accomplished.
So my question is, how many ships return to port with a MISSION ACCOMPLISHED banner flying?
If that is normal, how about some photographs? After all, it that is the norm, there should be hundreds of photos of Navy ships returning to port with similar banners.
Right?
The dream and hope! Democrats to be the only political party in our political system. Control everything! Only then will everything be solved and utopia on earth shall begin.
Purge the Republicans! Right?
“Democrats to be the only political party in our political system. ”
Say what?
Joe, are you having those nightmares again? Easy there – the Democrats have not taken over ALL of the government. It’s okay.
But you would like to see that right?
That is my point!
“But you would like to see that right?”
No.
Clark–Heheh, dude!
Good point about Commander Cod-Piece and the Aircraft carrier.
If the Dems were like the Repus’s, they’d have that scene in every campaign ad from now until 2052 . . .
If Bush is hurting the GOP, why is it that most of the GOP 2008 Presidential Candidates would (while they avoid mentioning his name) continue his policies?
Ron Paul is the only one who would not, and he is being blacklisted.
“”Democrats to be the only political party in our political system. ”
Is that anything like kkkarl rove’s “permanent republican majority”?
Because the top tier of the Republican candidates are all cut from the same Bush mold smtwngrl. They are all worshipers at the same corporate God. The only one that has had only one wife is a Mormon and he is having trouble getting the Christians to vote for him. So the GOP is in real trouble for 2008. The rest of the tribe all have their own personal life troubles and McCain is just too dang old.
Bush should be put in prison the rest of his life for his war on the middle class. His “Mexico First” amnesty plan is an insult to citizens and to immigrants who went through the naturalization process the right way, and it’s going to flood this country with more illegals because he refuses to enforce immigration law. He does not represent US citizens, except the few big business donors who want cheap labor.
The best thing the rest of the GOP can do is to lauch a relentless attack on Bush, effectively disowning and disgracing him. Otherwise there’s no compelling reason to vote for a GOP candidate other than they stink less than their Democrat opponent.
“The dream and hope! Democrats to be the only political party in our political system. Control everything! Only then will everything be solved and utopia on earth shall begin.
Purge the Republicans! Right?”
ABSOLUTELY! Actually I would prefer a multi party system consisting of the left and the center- much like Europe, Austrailia and Canada have. The “conservatives” in Canada are more like the Deomocrats are here. The rabid dog right wing Republicans should be tied up and tossed into the ocean as far as I care.
YET ANOTHER REPUBLICAN PERVERT CHILD RAPIST!
PIERRE, S.D. (AP) – A former state House member was arrested Friday on charges of rape and other sexual offenses against two teen girls.
Republican Ted A. Klaudt surrendered at the Corson County Sheriff’s office. He did not enter a plea during two court appearances, and bond was set at $100,000. He was taken to jail and declined to comment as he left the courtroom.
The charges against him include eight counts of second-degree rape, two counts of sexual exploitation of a minor, one count of sexual contact with a child younger than 16, two counts of witness tampering and one count of stalking. Some of the rape charges carry penalties of up to 50 years in prison.
The accusers were aged 15 to 19 over the years the crimes are to have occurred. One girl was molested when she was a legislative page, authorities allege.
The best thing the rest of the GOP can do is to lauch a relentless attack on Bush, effectively disowning and disgracing him. Otherwise there’s no compelling reason to vote for a GOP candidate other than they stink less than their Democrat opponent.Posted by: Chris in Andover | May 19, 2007 at 12:59 PM
Yes.
The GOP is fast approaching its own version of the Democrats’ “McGovern killed the party for a generation” tipping point, one that will kill the GOP as a serious national party.
Don’t worry ther liberal idealouges, the Attack BUSH campaign from inside the Republican PArty has just started.
You know it is bad when the Republicans are pissed enough to launch an “Impeach Bush” campaign. Actually Bush is to the Republican Party what Howierd Dean is for the Dems.
What is the last straw? The “Comprehensive Immigration reform and Fleece the American Citizen Taxpayer” bill.This bill is “Comprehensively” an economic nightmare with a cost of $2.7 trillion.
I can say after supporting Bush for IRAQ WAR and the WoT, I have had enough, he and McCain and others that support this immigratin bill are done for and are losing support this weekend.
A good check would be to look at John McCain’s numbers. If they fall fast, it is the immigratin bill and his pushing for it.
Vastly unpopular equally in the Republican and Democrat parites, and at the grassroots 92% of American Citizens want the BORDER SECURED FIRST. THEN and only THEN will we talk about the 12-20 million here.
This is the death of the GOP.
Hope y’all like a one party system, because if the immigratin bill passes, that is what we will have.
Actually Bush is to the Republican Party what Howierd Dean is for the Dems.Posted by: Tyler Durden | May 19, 2007 at 07:08 PM
I agree: the Immigration Bill, if passed and signed by Bush, will permanently fracture the GOP.
I disagree: Bush is to the GOP what McGovern *was* to the Democrats, not Dean. Yes, it’s that serious.
Hope y’all like a one party system, because if the immigratin bill passes, that is what we will have.Posted by: Tyler Durden | May 19, 2007 at 07:08 PM
I would agree with you, but for one election cycle only (2008).
In my humble opinion, and fwTw, the chances of an ad hoc 3rd party sprouting literally from the grassroots is very high by 2012.
Well I am ready to throw Bush under the train. Here is what I have found out with a little surfing. THE GOP is selling us Conservatives OUT!!!!
Lincoln and Reagan must be spinning in their graves! They thought we were not looking! As a Republican I am OUTRAGED! I go to the GOP website to email the national party on how I feel about our Rouge Senators, and I get this:
http://www.gop.com/
Nothing NEW, nothing about “Comprehensive Immigration Reform”, Nothing. No one to contact.
However, I went to GOP ESPANOL and saw this:
http://www.gop.com/Espanol/
The G Damn Republican Party Has some explaining to do!!!
They took my money to elect this SOB and now they are selliong me and other conservtive CITIZENS DOWN THE RIVER????
bush is ruining the USA not just the party of Grand Ole Perverts
I think Kev actually researching all these child abuse/porn cases. Perhaps Kev is getting an erection right now because of his interest in such. He has spread it all over the Wichita Eagle Blog, it must be true that pedophilia is in Kev’s mind and heart.
Republican – even this is a new low for the likes of you. If you have nothing reasonable to debate, then don’t muddy the waters by your inuendos.