Hello Mrage…

did you go and crawl back under your rock?

Come on. I want to hear you answer Ben’s questions.

Case in point, Town and Country convenience stores. Gosh I wonder why they are no longer in business. They were so clean and well staffed

Have you ever been to his “casino” in Vegas? Talk about slumlord. I have the pics to prove it. Lets talk about amenities at the dog track. It was built when.. and it has been updated when?

Yes, Phil has roots, connections and money. If we want to do this right lets judge him on what he has accomplished, what he has given back to the community. Hmmm, sorry I can’t seem to recall the last part of that statement. Gee I even looked on his website, nothing there either.

Cmon Phil, we all love the fact that you are home grown, but you need to make us some “political promises” Here let me help.

I promise if me and the Don have the opportunity to build a casino, I will provide ample parking. I promise that I won’t just count my money, but I will invest it into the community. I will not let it fall into a state of disrepair, I will do this not for my own personal gain (although I will enrich my wealth.) I want to give back to the community that has helped me attain all I have achieved.

Feel free to tweak it.

BR

By the way, there are schools and a large catholic Church in that area. It is generally designated residential and support in the Goddard plans.

Why don’t you suggest that Wichita annex Park City? Makes about as much sense as carving up Goddard. I haven’t spoken to anyone in Park City about that idea but I suspect they will be about as receptive as my contacts in Goddard.

By the way, rest assured that the Mayor will be informed that the idea of carving up Goddard for a casino is being floated.

No, he was a graduate of Wichita North High School in 1952. His first job was that of a Repo man. He tells a hillarious story about how two kids chased him down the street begging him to “please don’t take our monkey”…

High rollers go where they have never gone before, right?

Wouldn’t odds be a little better at a brand new casino, in smaller city like Wichita, than in Vegas?

Go where the Comp is, free trip, room and board, to gamble.

I don’t expect movie stars in Wichita, for their gambling. Some do come here and bring their jets for service at Cessna or Learjet.

When they are here, gamble downtown. “Normal” high rollers, business owners or investors flown in.

I don’t know how often Casino will fly people in. It should happen.

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I like to see Wichita grow, regardless of boundaries. I see more cooperation of city services between communities, than obstruction in the future.

I don’t see the need to value a different school system. Every child in this county should be learning the same things. The same teaching procedures, especially in public schools.

Is this the right way to grow our communities, with all the lines?

There too many Counties in Kansas, some say. Too many close cities with different governments, what’s the point.

I agree with you about downtown. However, with all the problems Wichita has had with their WaterWalk don’t count out Park City.

By the way – just why do you hate the other cities and USDs so much?

Just west of Colwich Road. South side of Kellogg, what’s there?

Some parcels of land out west exist. Closer to the airport, if it was absolutely necessary, than going east.

Some high rollers do fly in. I’m sure Cessna jets provided by the Casino will be used that way. Accommodate high rollers with short limo drives!

If its not too far from the west side city limits, Wichita still might annex some land.

It doesn’t matter, downtown has the places for a Casino that are preferable than being in Park City.

What’s in the way of a casino, doesn’t actually matter.

Motivated casino group will buy any property if its the right location and they have the only casino license in this county.

The exclusive idea, a lot of casino money is going to be thrown around. No Casino idea is going to stick at the minimum $220 Million investment.

It’s going to be $300 Million, maybe the highest priced casino, gets the bid. Not the cheapest Casino picked at all.

Since a lot of cash is being offered, the city has property to sell that’s more valuable than what Park City has.

More valuable for long term growth of the Casino as an investment.

People and business sometimes do buy expensive land, because its the right location. What they build increases value of that expensive land. Immediately the structure is worth more than the constructed costs.

Just as you clearly did not understand the relationships between USDs and Cities in Kansas so you also do not seem to understand the situation with current city boundaries. Goddard extends approximately to 167th St right now. So, ‘way out west’ would be in Goddard.

As for East, you get into Andover. And, it is timewise further from the airport than Park City is.

What parcel of land on west Kellogg might you be looking at?

Just like your Goddard school in Wichita city limits, a Casino on CITY PROPERTY could be in Andover or Goddard City limits, if desperately needed land was needed that way.

I only use Kellogg as a access road than going to Park City because of the Airport.

For flying out of towner’s, that’s the close highway.

City at all costs, wants the Casino on their property. It’s not going to be a County property Casino.

A point about Park City – easy access to the Turnpike via K-196.

That said, I also prefer downtown. Just not counting out Park City.

If it was necessary to place a Casino along Kellogg, far west or east, that would preferable than allowing Park City to get it.

The County is allowing vote on the Casino idea. City surely has much influence where the Casino will be located.

City selling property they own really matters! What other project could they sell those things? The Hyatt and Library area.

If someone buys the Watkins Steel lot and develops that area. Improvements to downtown.

I hope events keep the downtown arena going, County doesn’t have to funnel money from the Casino.

It’s a non profit building, but it has to stay busy. County has to afford bills and they will.

Corporate advertising hasn’t be sold and that pays bills. If ever TV money for events too. ESPN 2 is better than no TV at all.

The downtown arena must have as many college basketball games possible on TV.

I hate the incredible imagination on a Casino yet the same people are accepting the small arena?

I’m sticking with what we have today. Make sure the arena is worth having long term. That’s the key asset.

I didn’t like the Eagle writer imagining Lawrence-Dumont as a casino location. We need the baseball field and it has to be improved.

Then he also considered place where WaterWalk wants to put a Condo building up, just east of the Ice Rink.

I imagine more parking west of Lawrence-Dumont, that doesn’t exist today for my project.

People might be able to park west of the River and walk across the bridges. My project hasn’t been agreed to either, but I’m planning.

Out of towners will find parking downtown, hopefully. Be able to get out of there. Kellogg will be a heavily used entrance and release road from downtown.

People coming from 96 or the Bypass have to get off on surface streets somewhere. Downtown will still have some one way streets that go north and south.

I don’t fear gridlock downtown like some people do.

Actually, that is the complete opposite of what I was trying to say… I’m not saying is some brilliant business god but for the most part he’s pretty good at what he does.

One thing that I find rather funny is people complain that it gets “cold” in the winter. In Chicago I see people out and about dusing the Christmas season. It gets a tad bit cooler there than here.

Hot chocolate, roasted chestnuts, etc from vendors. Just something about it …

As for Park City I doubt that they will offer to build it for them.

I’m sure it will. And I’m also betting downtown Wichita gets the casino and not Park City.

Park City has the dog track and slots. Their own version of a casino. But just wondering what kind of communist scheme Park City will come up with. They are famous for decade tax abatements.

As I said, I tend to favor downtown too. However I also recognize the value of being on I-135. That highway is much better than putting it on Kallogg way out west past the traffic lights (driven to Goddard lately?).

The problem with downtown is access. Sure “The highway’s can be discussed as valuable transportion roads” but that won’t improve traffic flow downtown. Driven THERE lately? Remember – DESTINATION means people from out of town will drive there.

As for “If the Casino is outside of Wichita city limits, how does the city benefit?” the City will benefit because the County will collect revenues; revenues that can be used to subsidize the 15,000 seat Arena.