Surge is working — if you do not count car bombs

Turns out that U.S. officials who have been saying that the troop surge is working haven’t been counting all the Iraqis killed by car bombs. Huh? President Bush tried to explain: "If the standard of success is no car bombings or suicide bombings, we have just handed those who commit suicide bombings a huge victory." Huh? Who said that zero car bombs was the definition of success? The issue is whether the surge is helping make Iraq safer and more stable, not how people are killed.
Posted by Phillip Brownlee

22 Comments

  1. Econ101
    Posted April 26, 2007 at 1:49 pm | Permalink

    Very simple:

    When Germany had lost the Air War, due to Englands radar — Germany intensified the indescriment use of buzz bombs, V! and V2 rockets that killed randomly.

    More civilian death resulted, but the truth is, this was a sign of Germany’s desperattion.

    Any idiot can blow up a car bomb.

    Are the leaders of the terrorists getting more and moe desperate? Are we killing and catching more of them? Is the Iraq government doing a better job of taking care of itself?

  2. Ed Friedemann
    Posted April 26, 2007 at 1:57 pm | Permalink

    Either get out now or it’s Iran next, as part of the never-ending wars for Israeli dominance.

  3. Ed Friedemann
    Posted April 26, 2007 at 1:58 pm | Permalink

    This does not benefit the United States.

  4. Ben
    Posted April 26, 2007 at 2:04 pm | Permalink

    Bush says that the success of his surge will be evident by summer. We shall see.

  5. Ed Friedemann
    Posted April 26, 2007 at 2:15 pm | Permalink

    Bush is just looking for any excuse to go after Iran for Israel.

  6. Econ101
    Posted April 26, 2007 at 2:23 pm | Permalink

    EdIsrael has the ability to destroy Iran, NOW, all by itself.It has not done so.

    Iran WOULD destroy Israel, TODAY if Iran could do so.

  7. Ed Friedemann
    Posted April 26, 2007 at 2:29 pm | Permalink

    Thats the Zionist “line.” You tow it so well.

  8. brian
    Posted April 26, 2007 at 2:51 pm | Permalink

    Econ,It is hard to know the causality for a historical event. We have no idea whether Germany was ‘desparate.’

    It is a fact they increased rocket attacks around that time. However, it is also true that they started developing more/better rockets during that part of the war. One could surmise that they increased their use of rockets because they had more and better rockets.

  9. Posted April 26, 2007 at 2:55 pm | Permalink

    So Econ101 trots out the ‘violence is increasing because the enemy is desperate,’ yet another application of the usual Bush Administration’s ‘up is down’-ism.

  10. brian
    Posted April 26, 2007 at 2:57 pm | Permalink

    Maybe there are more people that know how to build bombs in Iraq now. Maybe there are more bomb making materials available. Maybe there are more people pissed off and willing to blow themselves up now.

  11. Mike
    Posted April 26, 2007 at 3:02 pm | Permalink

    BREAKING NEWS: THE GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN SPYING ON ANTI WAR GROUPS AND INDIVIDUALS

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070426/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/pentagon_terror_database

    BIG BROTHER AT IT AGAIN!

  12. Econ101
    Posted April 26, 2007 at 3:16 pm | Permalink

    MikeWe know that John Kerry attended an anti-Vietnam War meeting and that, at that meeting, there was serious talk about assasinating elected officials in the United States.Do we know this because Kerry, who was probably STILL a reserver officer in the Navy, reported the plot?NO!We know because the undercover cops who also attended have told us about that meeting.The government SHOULD spy on such groups.Heck, they spy on anti abortion and pro gun groups too.There are nuts in every political group.

  13. Mike
    Posted April 26, 2007 at 3:22 pm | Permalink

    If you want to send in undercover police to monitor a groups activities then that is one thing. When the Federal Government decides it is going to spy on its own citizens then we are on a slippery slope. Do right wingers even know what the Constitution is? You people act like government should be everywhere with no limits on what they can do.

  14. Parkay
    Posted April 26, 2007 at 3:47 pm | Permalink

    “It was a very happy day for us Palestinians to hear nine American dogs were killed in Iraq. We feel encouraged and we feel great solidarity with our brothers in Iraq, and we consider this heroic operation, which aims to humiliate the Americans, as proof that the will of the our resistance is more powerful than any [big] American war airplanes. . . . The Iraqi people, with the help of the mujahedeen fighters all over the world, are teaching the American dogs a huge lesson that will serve for generations for anybody who will dare attack lands of Muslims. Iraq will be the beginning of the collapse of the American empire.”. . . Abu Ahmed, the northern Gaza commander of the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades terror group, the declared military wing of Abbas’ U.S.-backed Fatah party

  15. Bob
    Posted April 26, 2007 at 3:52 pm | Permalink

    And your point is? Some Muslims and Arabs hate Americans? Now that’s a news flash.

  16. Pedant
    Posted April 26, 2007 at 6:22 pm | Permalink

    “If the standard of success is no car bombings or suicide bombings, we have just handed those who commit suicide bombings a huge victory.”-GW Bush

    So we aren’t supposed to count acts of violence to measure violent acts?!?

    wtf?

    President Augustus Stupidus once more steps boldly into the breech for those Americans still unsure just how big an idiot he is.

    ANS: big.

  17. political_mom
    Posted April 26, 2007 at 6:44 pm | Permalink

    God does Bush get more stupid by the day or what? Does he actually expect to get by with that response?

  18. Posted April 26, 2007 at 6:47 pm | Permalink

    Parkay, where’s your proof Al Asqua being a legitimate part of Hamas, or of Abbas embracing them.I would surmise that Abbas would no more claim Al Asqua than Bush would claim that church group in North Dakota that makes their kids worship a Bush cutout.

  19. Wiseman
    Posted April 26, 2007 at 6:51 pm | Permalink

    The best way handle a crazy president is to humor him.

  20. Kev
    Posted April 26, 2007 at 7:29 pm | Permalink

    As long as Iraq wants us there we have to stay. It was us that invaded and made a mess of their country. We owe them.

  21. steve
    Posted April 26, 2007 at 9:33 pm | Permalink

    Looks like congress is prepared to make Bush and his party own the war, with the war budget to include withdraw provisions. Now if they could just make them the ones that have to fight the war.

  22. steve
    Posted April 26, 2007 at 9:35 pm | Permalink

    The general in charge of the war in Iraq says that the existing govt. is a bunch of groups with dissimilar interest, which they put ahead of unity. So exactly who is it that wants us there?