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Liberals Need To Learn That Weakness Invites AttackBy John HawkinsFriday, April 6, 2007
“Of the four wars in my lifetime, none came about because the U.S. was too strong.”- Ronald Reagan
“And that prince who bases his power entirely on…words, finding himself completely without other preparations, comes to ruin…” — Niccolo Machiavelli
After the horrors of WWI, people became so adverse to war that, in 1928, nations across the world actually signed onto an international treaty called the Kellogg-Briand Pact. This, let’s be generous and call it “ambitious” treaty, actually made war illegal and it was signed by 62 nations including Britain, France, the United States, and perhaps most notably, Germany.
Now, given that humankind has forever been engaged in wars of some sort or another, you may be wondering how this treaty was to be enforced? Well, there’s the hitch. There was no enforcement mechanism. Everyone just signed on to the treaty and wished for the best.
That was exactly the sort of mentality that encouraged the world to stand by helplessly as Germany, Italy, and Japan ran wild and attacked their neighbors during the thirties and eventually began the biggest, bloodiest conflagration that the world had ever seen.
This should have produced a number of lessons for the human race that would stand through time immemorial. Feeding the alligator and hoping that he eats you last, i.e. appeasement, isn’t a wise strategy. Strong nations are foolish if they allow weaker nations that mean them harm to gather strength until they are a danger. When the leaders of other nations tell you that they mean you harm, take them at their word. War may be tragic, but it’s also necessary. You could go on and on with the lessons that we should have learned from World War II.
Fast forward to the present and the blind utopianism of the twenties and thirties is not only back with a vengeance, it’s worse than ever.
And just who has weakened America’s military for the past four years?
Happy “Mission Accomplished” Day, “Republican.”
Excellent post, Republican.
“”Of the four wars in my lifetime, none came about because the U.S. was too strong.”- Ronald Reagan”
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The truth of that statement just doesn’t dawn on some folks.
Here is the second part of the article Republican posted. It’s worth reading:
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“We have members of our own Congress insisting we raise the white flag in Iraq because it turns out that, surprise, they didn’t realize that the war might be hard. Many of those same fickle members of Congress who voted for war and now want to cut and run, want to take terrorists whom we caught overseas, and put them into our court system. Of course, that would undoubtedly mean that terrorists would be freed by the hundreds since our soldiers aren’t trained as policemen, our intelligence agencies will be unable to talk in detail about their sources, and because civilian courts are simply not designed to handle foreigners captured in a time of war. Can you imagine our grandparents complaining that Nazis in prisoner of war camps were denied their right to “Habeas Corpus” because they weren’t given a slick lawyer courtesy of the U.S. taxpayer and tried in an American court? Giving captured soldiers and terrorists from foreign lands the same constitutional privileges as Americans on trial for robbery or murder would so hamper the effort that it would practically make fighting a war impossible — which probably has a lot to do with why pacifists on the left are suggesting that very foolish course of action.
But, don’t get the idea that this is only an American problem, because it’s not. Much of the world expects the United States to prostrate itself to the United Nations before going after threats to our country, despite the fact that the UN is a corrupt, anti-American, anti-Semitic, talking shop that isn’t capable of successfully organizing a two car parade. These are the same people that demand that we cease using landmines in South Korea, although they’re vitally important to the defense of that country from its rapacious northern neighbor. They also insist that we sign on to the International Criminal Court, where anti-American plaintiffs could bring cases before anti-American foreign judges who’d decide our guilt or innocence on charges that Americans may not even consider to be crimes.
Although time and time again, history has taught us that weakness invites attack, European nations have allowed their militaries to atrophy practically down to nothing. The once powerful NATO alliance now consists of the United States, Britain, and a group of nations that couldn’t fight their way out of a wet paper bag. This has produced a bizarre spectacle in recent years, that features the United States and Britain doing almost all the real fighting in places like Kuwait, Kosovo, Afghanistan, and Iraq, while simultaneously working overtime to get other nations to contribute a few rusty frigates, peace keepers who are only capable of keeping the peace if no one resists, and medical workers who don’t get near the front lines, so we can maintain the illusion that the United States and the Brits aren’t doing all the real work.
It’s bad enough that the Europeans have deluded themselves into believing that powerful militaries don’t matter as much as “soft power,” but the truth is that they don’t have the guts to use their “soft power” either. If nations at the UN, particularly European nations, were willing to put international security above making a few bucks from nations like Iran, Syria, and Saddam’s Iraq, the world would be a much safer place today. But instead, what we get are nations that contribute practically nothing of significance to world security, cursing and undermining the United States, the only nation that has the power and the will to deal with countries like China, Iran, and Syria.
Bad actors on the international scene, whether they be rogue nations or terrorists, cannot be wished away, nor can they always be convinced to see the error of their ways with sweet reason. Moreover, the sad fact is that paradoxically, if the West doesn’t prepare for armed conflict or eschews the cruel but necessary parts of it, it will only invite more violence and turmoil. That’s what happened after WWI, it’s what’s happening today, and it will continue to happen in the future if liberals in the United States and Western Europe don’t stop searching for a utopian world without war and start dealing with the world as it is and will likely always be.”
Erratum
In yesterday’s Open Thread, I posted that George Romney’s father was a polygamist.
Thanks to ksgrm’s challenge, I rechecked the info. George Romney’s grandfather, not father, was a polygamist, according to an LDS Church-owned newspaper.
An AP report on this was published in the Deseret Morning News two months ago.
http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,660198565,00.html
Ksgrm, how plausible do you think it is that Utah’s oldest newspaper, whose parent corporation, Deseret Management Corporation, owned by the LDS Church, would publish a false story about one of Utah’s prominent LDS families?
http://www.deseretmanagement.com/
The Boston Globe also published the same piece. Given the fact that Mitt Romney was Massachusetts governor, the Globe surely did extensive background-checking work on him when he ran for governor, so how likely is it that this newspaper–New England’s largest-circulation newspaper and winner of 18 Pulitzer prizes–posted a false story?
Finally, if it were false, wouldn’t Romney have demand retraction? Hasn’t happened.
The Mormons believed that it was vital to procreate as one means of enlarging their membership quickly (the other being proselytization and conversion), and polygamy was effective to this end. When they moved to Utah to escape Protestant persecution, Utah was Mexican territory. When the U.S. took over, and tried to halt polygamy, some members moved to Mexico again.
I see the “cut and paste” crew is up early.
Just want to avoid charges of hearsay. ;)
Being as they can’t “think and write”, “cut and paste” is their only option.
Yeah GS, it would be a terrible thing if those detainees had the same rights that we as Americans have.
Tell me again how we’re in Iraq to spread Democracy.
Here’s an intriguing event: Southern Baptist pastor Pat Robertson has invited Mormon Mitt Romney to give the commencement address at Regents University next month.
http://www.regent.edu/news/romney_commencement_announce.html
What’s interesting about this is that Mormons (members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints) have always considered themselves to be Christians, but traditional Christians, such as Southern Baptists, have not recognized Mormons to be their spiritual Christian brethren.
This is due to many things, such as the fact that “The Book of Mormon” is held to be a God-given-to-man physical tract, of the nature of the stone-inscribed Ten Commandments given to Moses. Except the Book of Mormon was inscribed in gold, which allowed it to be buried in the ground for several centuries without corrosion, then the buried location was divinely revealed to formerly Methodist Joseph Smith.
Even though it was written in Egyptian, Mr. Smith was given the gift of tongues-translation, and rewrote it into English. Then after several centuries of perfect preservation, being inscribed on non-corroding gold tablets, the Book vanished immediately after Mr. Smith translated it.
The problem that traditional Catholic, Easter Orthodox and Protestant churches have with this is that it represents a claim of new Scripture. With small differences, the traditional Christian churches agree on Scripture. The Catholics and Eastern Orthodox churches hold as canon scripture seven Old Testament books not accepted by Protestants (or Jews) (”Apocrypha”), and differences exist in New Testaments, reflecting the presence or absence of citations of Apocrypha text.
But nonetheless, everyone agrees that the Apocrypha books were written by Jews before Jesus was born.
What the traditional Christian churches reject as fraudulent, is the claim that a member of the Lost Tribe of Joseph, Nehi, came to the New World, that one of his sons, Moroni wrote The Book of Mormon on gold plates, giving this to to the tribe in the 4th century A.D. (Why weren’t they given the New Testament, three centuries after Christ died? Why wasn’t the text written in Hebrew, which the lost tribe of Israel would have understood, as opposed to a language they probably could not have understood? )
The traditional Christians reject the LDS doctrine that the Book of Mormon represents Joseph Smith’s digging up this long-lost scripture, under the direction of Moroni, who had become an angel. Traditional Christians consider this story to be a total hoax. Wouldn’t anyone who discovered this and considered it to be God’s own handiwork preserve and show it to the followers? Of course, the followers would not be able to read Egyptian hieroglyphics, but archeologists could.
So, historically Protestants, Catholics and Orthodox adherents have rejected Mormons because Mormons hold The Book of Mormon to be canon scripture, while traditional Christians hold The Book of Mormon to be a fraudulent fabrication.
Traditional Christians also deny the Mormon doctrine that people can become saved after death by nomination of the living.
Traditional Christians also deny Mormon doctrine until 1978, that dark skin per se represented sin, so that African-Americans could not become LDS “priests” or marry in the LDS temple. Most other people had figured out that dark skin is God’s protection against glaring sun: melanocytes prevent solar blisters and skin cancer.
Traditional Christians also reject things like 20th century Mormons going to libraries that housed 19th century original-text Books of Mormon, and ripping out pages that don’t comport with the revised Book of Mormon that expunged “inconvenient truths” about the religion. They reject George Orwellian “1984″ behavior. (I was at the University of California, San Diego when this happened in the 70s. Doubters can call or email the head librarian there to confirm that this happened.) It’s okay to change your doctrine, and evolve with society. The Episcopal, Baptist, Methodist, Presbyterian, Lutheran and Catholic churches today aren’t what they were in the past. But to try to deny your past, and say, “We never held this belief, and our scripture didn’t say this or that, ever,” is devious, fraudulent, pathological behavior.
Anyway, now, Pat Robertson believes that SOMEBODY has to represent social conservatism’s values, and Mormon Mitt Romney fills the bill.
It is interesting that Robertson, an ordained Southern Baptist minister, is not supporting Southern Baptist pastor Mike Huckabee’s campaign. Huckabee did a decent job governing Arkansas. He was elected twice (three times including a special election) and only had to give up the office due to term limits. He was only the third post-Reconstruction Republican in Arkansas’ history to be elected governor. He was elected chair of the Southern Governors Association. Time Magazine named him one of the best five governors in America. He led a campaign to provide shelter to 70,000 Katrina victims. A true “Compassionate Conservative”.
So, why doesn’t Southern Baptist pastor Pat Robertson support Southern Baptist pastor Mike Huckabee?
This is for golf, who thinks getting a college education and the socioeconomic status of parents has nothing to do with it.
usatoday.com/news/education/2007-04-09-financial-gap_N.htm
Parents who send their children to four-year colleges have long been above average when it comes to income. But today’s freshmen are financially better off than ever before, and the gap is widening, a report on 40-year trends in higher education shows.Freshmen in 2005 reported median family incomes 60% higher than the national average, says the report, released today by UCLA’s Cooperative Institutional Research Program. In 1971, incomes were 46% above the national average.
“So, why doesn’t Southern Baptist pastor Pat Robertson support Southern Baptist pastor Mike Huckabee?”
Only because he has absolutly no chance of winning. Nothing more, nothing less.
And what war-drum rhetoric has this belief done for us in this particular war except get us more hated, and more in debt?
“So, why doesn’t Southern Baptist pastor Pat Robertson support Southern Baptist pastor Mike Huckabee?”
Because Pat Robertson is an idiot and gives Southern Baptists a bad name. I haven’t yet had the time to do more research on these two candidates but so far it looks as if Huckabee would much better fit the bill of the leader that Southern Baptists and other conservatives want but Robertson is too busy sticking his foot in his mouth in front of the world to realize this. Romney has to have some odd hold on Robertson…
Republican the Mamzer has it exactly backwards as always.
Germany turned to Hitler (although he never won a majority in an election before he took power–that’s a commonly recited myth) because of the unbearable punitive treatment by the allies after WWI.
After WWII, we learned the lesson of the first war and headed the Marshall Plan to rebuild our former enemies, and as a result they USED TO BE our staunchest allies–that is before WORST PRESIDENT EVER invaded Iraq for the oil.
It was not perceived “strength” or “weakness” that precipitated the attack on 9-11: it was the US putting troops in the land of the two holies (Mecca and Medinah), the Qiblah (direction) that a billion Muslims pray towards five times a day.
They were hoping to draw us into attacking some Middle Eastern country so that they could bog us down in a war of attrition.
It was exactly this kind of war of attrition that Al Qaeda had fought and WON with the USSR in Afghanistan.
Thanks to WORST PRESIDENT EVER, their wet-dream came true.
JMW, you’re smarter than this. As a child, you read all kinds of textbooks that didn’t have citations. But then you went to college, right?, and learned about citation-based literature. Which included quotes that were, in the print age, “cut and paste”? Right? And if you attended a university that had the original documents, you could verify the citations. Right? And if you were a scholarly student, you obtained the original documents, and read them. Right?
ksgrm caught me on an unsubstantiated representation. (It is lost to history whether or not George Romney’s father was a polygamist.) So I retracted my original statement and went to allegations in reputable sources that haven’t been contested.
If some people make statements and give source citations, and other people make counter-statements and give citations, that’s a GOOD THING.
For decades, Kansans were denied access to outside information. They were considered “dumb” by people on the coasts, and by those in Kansas’s capital city Chicago. They were considered to be “dumb” not because Kansans were inherently mentally defective, but because Kansans were denied access to knowledge. The Internet has changed this. Kansans who want to become knowledgeable can now do this. Some Kansans will choose not to connect to outside knowledge. But others will, and are already doing so.
Kansans haven’t been denied anything. Any and all information has been there, all you have to do is dig it out. Perhaps Mark hasn’t had his coffee this morning and isn’t thinking too clearly.
CapnAmerica,
Two good books to read, “The Kings Depart, the Tragedy of Germany–Versailles and the German Revolution” by Richard M. Watt; and “The Great Influenza–The Epic Story of the Deadliest Plague in History” by John M. Barry.
The first book talks about Woodrow Wilson’s attempt to prevent French President Clemenceau’s scheme to totally demolish Germany with oppressive sanctions, and Wilson’s inexplicable disappearance at the critical stage of negotiations. The second theorizes that Wilson contracted the deadly flu, which incapacitated him and led to his early demise.
Both books reach the conclusion that the Treaty of Versailles crippled Germany with impossible reparations. And the Germans, being a proud people, revolted. The Marshall Plan wisely didn’t make the same mistake. The amazing thing is, our arch enemies Germany and Japan, became strong allies after WWII, while our most powerful ally in WWII, the Soviet Union, became our arch-enemy after the war. Go figure.
Ali Allawi, a brilliant Iraqi thinker, has laid out reasons why the Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld administration has totally screwed things up in Iraq in “The Occupation of Iraq: Winning the War, Losing the Peace”.
It’s time to bring our troops home. George Washington warned against “foreign entanglements”. They have cheap oil, when measured by wellhead-extraction costs. So what? We have humongous energy resources. Kansas has a ridiculously enormous wind-power resource. We have astounding home-energy-saving technologies available. Convert wind electricity and water into hydrogen for cars and home heating. Do the same from North Dakota to Texas. Add solar energy for the western parts of these states. Kiss addiction to foreign oil goodbye. Who wants to do this? Raise your hands.
Nice job Dennis. I went to a university that three decades ago had 4 million books and subscribed to 30,000 journals.
It’s more now, but where in Kansas could you find this information? I went to a “liberal” university, but Wall Street Journal, a conservative publication, frequently quotes my university’s faculty members. I know, because I subscribe to WSJ.
My university’s chancellor was formerly dean of sciences at MIT. KU’s chancellor was formerly a University of Kentucky-Lexington chancellor, and it appears was almost certainly a University of Kentucky Community College System faculty member. Or, maybe you went to Wichita State. WSU’s president has a high-shool-superindent Ed.D. degree.
I received an education under National Academy of Sciences members (and future members), Nobel Prize winners and nominees. I can’t claim their awards as my own. I was just REALLY LUCKY to be educated by far-sighted brilliant minds. Dennis, you were just unlucky to for your mind to be trained by schlepps, because Kansas law-makers had really small minds.
Boy, you sure put me in my place.
Schlepps, huh? Bet they’d be surprised to hear that.
Congratulations on all your education. Was arrogance a required course, or was it an elective?
XXX and JM,
Figuring that you people on the left get most of your crap straight from the DNC websites talking points or moveon.org you are not one to be talking about cut and paste.
I received an education under National Academy of Sciences members (and future members), Nobel Prize winners and nominees. I can’t claim their awards as my own. I was just REALLY LUCKY to be educated by far-sighted brilliant minds. Dennis, you were just unlucky to for your mind to be trained by schlepps, because Kansas law-makers had really small minds.Posted by: Mark Schooley | April 10, 2007 at 10:25 AM
Mark Schooley, well stated snobbery. Your education and command of the English did not go to waste.
You can now draw erroneous conclusions with flourish and style.
(add “language” after English)
Republican didn’t go to college, so to him, anyone who did is a “snob.”
Sorry, Nathan, but I don’t visit DNC websites. I do receive MoveOn’s emails, but 98% of the time, I delete without reading. I wasn’t much of an Air America listener (too many commercials). I use at least a grain of salt with everything I read and hear, no matter what “side” I find it.
I’m a Democrat because their ideals and goals more closely resemble who and what I am. I don’t agree 100% with everything.
In other words, I think for myself and get my information from a variety of sources. Give it a try sometime.
This is NOT an accusation of nick changing (which is one of the silliest and most irrelevant arguments on this blog, no matter which “side” engages in it, but a serious question).
Mark Schooley, did you used to post under the nick of “Heartlander”?
Republican,
I’d vote for Richardson in a New York minute.
Just goes to show some of us can agree on at least one thing. ;)
Actually I did go to college Capn. Remember, I stated I attended college before you did, as I recall by about six years.
Republican,
“Actually I did go to college Capn.”
What is your degree in?
Well, well, well: the House Judiciary Committee has issued subpeonas demanding more documents from Attorney General Alberto Gonzales.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/10/washington/10cnd-attorneys.html?_r=1&hp=&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&adxnnlx=1176234449-T4fR1lS0EWYHNQDVeSNaqQ
Guess the showdown between the Congress and the President over “Executive Privilege” / “Unitary Executive” just heated up.
Between that and Bush telling Congress to kiss his ass and give him the damn Iraq money, I’m hoping for a full Constitutional crisis by May 1–appropriate, I think.
Nathan,Once again, you’ve let your mouth overload your brain. I’ve been to the DNC website maybe 3 times in my life. I don’t recall ever going to moveon. I’m also imaginative enough to write my own posts unlike a lot of conservatives who have to “cut and paste” to get their idea across. Like most posters here, If I see a long post that’s cut and paste, I pass it over. If I do cut and paste, I do the first few lines and then provide a link rather than trash up the blog posting stuff I didn’t write.Nathan, your attack on 2 people who count you as a friend was unwarranted. If you want to discuss “crap”, start with your swollen ego and arrogance. If you want to engage in discussion, please bring some intellect and leave your snotty attitude at home.
Cosmos–
Republican the Mamzer said he went to college.
He didn’t say he graduated, hehe.
XXX,
I only said it because instead of ingageing in a discussion over what was brought you simply dismiss it because it was cut and paste and then label it’s poster at a cut and paster.
I have been surfing here for the last week and this is one of the first times I have seen him cut and paste an article.
So that is why I said what I did.
If you didn’t want to read it or reply to it then you should simply have said nothing, but instead you choose to dismiss it by saying it was cut and paste.
I meant no personal offense
“Mark Schooley, did you used to post under the nick of ‘Heartlander’?”
—ksagnostic
This is truly a question to satisfy curiousity only.
Nathan,”If you didn’t want to read it or reply to it then you should simply have said nothing”.
Do you know what a blog is?
“I have been surfing here for the last week and this is one of the first times I have seen him cut and paste an article.”
Note that I used the word “crew” indicating more than just Republican. I refered also to GS, since she can’t come up with anything original and always posts long-winded cut and paste.
My post about cut an paste has nothing to do with content and everything to do with blog manners. If an article is multiple pages long, just post an intro and a link. Only the unimaginative cut and paste pages of , as you say, “Crap”. That goes for either side.
“I meant no personal offense”Thank you, my young friend; I’ll take no offense.
I look forward to seeing you on the range when weather permits. I seem to have aquired another “hand cannon” as your Dad so aptly puts it.
LOL
Yeah, as soon as i settle some finances I “may” puchase a new compact hand gun for concealed carry.
I’m thinking about it myself, XXX and Nathan.Sorry I haven’t been around much lately… blogging really gets to be a bitch when it suddenly becomes part of your job description :(
Speaking of which, XXX and Nathan, what do you think of the .40 caliber pistol?
I’ve been hearing they’ve got the ballistics of a 9mm with the knock-down of a .45.
ksagnostic,
I decided to use my name for several reasons. A. I already revealed it in an interchange with Apophis some months back. B. The webmaster of one Typekey blog, scotusblog.com, told me he’d be happy to post my entry on “Bong Hits 4 Jesus”, but the rule was that posters had to use their real names not nics. C. Vaughn Tolle and Ben Huie use their real names. Their posts are always worth reading. D. Using one’s real name tends to encourage one to avoid ad hominem attacks, which is good for civil discourse.
For people who use pseudonyms, that’s an American tradition: Ben Franklin did it, when the situation called for it.
I would have to argue with you a bit on that last point, MS, I am attacked pretty regularly and I use my real name……
On Republican’s calling me a snob, Apophis did the same thing, so I’ve offend both sides of the political spectrum.
But here is something worth consideration. After WWII the University of Kansas had two extraordinarily talented chancellors, Dean Malott and Franklin Murphy. Both lobbied long and hard for the legislature to support KU’s transformation into a research university. They understood the enormous contributions that leading research universities made during WWII, ranging from aeronautics to the atom bomb, both through research university faculty members’ direct involvement, and the work of their former students.
Kansas legislators attitude was “This is the best economy we’ve ever had. We don’t need to get into the research business.” So Dr. Malott gave up and took the presidency of Cornell, which was at that time a world-class research university. His successor, Dr. Murphy gave up and went west. He transformed UCLA, originally a normal school, into a world-class research university. He was chosen because his ideas corresponded to those of UC’s leaders. The two chancellors were “lone voices in the wilderness” here.
What were the costs to Kansas? Well, we lost Jack Kilby to the University of Illinois, a leading research university, and later the state of Texas, where Texas Instruments was making cutting-edge components for jet fighters and space capsules. Kilby’s integrated circuit, which garnered the Nobel Prize in physics, generates an estimated THREE TRILLION DOLLARS annually today.
Iowa native Robert Noyce departed the state to get his Ph.D. at MIT. He then went to California, where he independently invented the integrated circuit, albeit six months after Kilby. He co-founded Intel, whose products were designed to serve the military and NASA. But with the end of the Vietnam War and NASA’s post-moonlanding shrinkage, Intel saw plummeting microprocessor sales. So the company decided to offer its non-classified products to the public, and voila! the personal computer was created.
Today’s leading research universities have scientists and engineers at their helms. KBOR picked an English teacher for KU’s chancellorship. For KSU, Kansas’s A&M university KBOR picked someone who didn’t have an engineering or ag-science degree.
With plethora of candidates who earned top-flight engineering and ag-science degrees from schools like Purdue, U Illinois, U Wisconsin, Texas A&M, North Carolina State, Iowa State, U California Davis, and Cornell, why did KBOR choose someone whose bachelors and doctoral degrees were in HISTORY? This makes zero sense, IMHO. It represents backward thinking, IMHO. If you have an A&M university, don’t you want an expert in engineering and/or ag sciences at the helm? If you don’t want this, WHY don’t you want this?
If you say, “Well he grew up in North Dakota, and has an easy-going laid-back attitude that ‘fits’ Kansas,” that’s not smart for a state that must either create for itself productive niches in the 21st century economy, or else watch a large percentage–perhaps most–of its citizens suffer.
hey Doc Schooley………….. if Kansas is so backward, why do you continue to live here?
Apophis,
Long story. Via Christi’s progenitor St. Francis had a longstanding “gentlemen’s agreement” with Wesley to divide subspecialized medical/hospital services. That agreement was abolished when Columbia (now HCA) bought Wesley, and the hospitals had to compete for comprehensive service insurance contrracts.
St. Francis’s administration felt it needed to be able to offer newborn intensive care services that were credibly on par with those of Wesley. So my wife was recruited to create these on-par services.
This award-winning and credibility-creating (Via Christi St. Luke’s and Emerald physician , KAKE-Davis Moore “People on Your Side” award-winner; CNN, CBS, ABC, NBC, and Discovery Channel-showcased for saving the lives of the Hedrick sextuplets) physician wasn’t appreciated by Via Christi administration to her satisfaction. Primarily when a hospital CEO stripped her of her Medical Director position, i.e. “We don’t need your leadership any more, we can run things without you from here on out. I wasn’t here when you built this service from a laughing stock to a respected service, and gave Via Christi modern newborn intensive care services, so I’m not giving you any credit, because I wasn’t here to see what you did.” So she went to Johnson County, after selflessly serving Via Christi, people of Wichita and several rural communities for eight years.
We have a big house to sell. I’ll be gone soon.
Bye!
Poor Bush, couldn’t get away with the heavily redacted documents with a real congress.
Steve what is that supposed to mean? A little off the subject at hand.
Well Republicans early post pointed out exactly what I said the other day.
How many millions could have been saved had Hitler NOT been appeased?
As to Al Quida attacking us on 9-11, Billary had 8 years to pull us out of Saudi Arabia. Billary had 8 years to stop all sanctions against Iraq. Billary had 8 years to stop supporting Israel. Billary had 8 years to do whatever any little two bit terrorist told us to do.
How dare the U.S. not do what ANYONE tells us to. Sorry we don’t have the European mantra of tell us what to do and we’ll do it.
Is this the new definition of freedom. We’ll do whatever you tell us so you won’t kill us. No thanks.
Here’s an excerpt from the AP story I read on the investigation of the firings: “Bush, meanwhile, has stood by Gonzales, a longtime friend from Texas.
“I think the Justice Department has been working very hard to be fully responsive to the request, as the president asked them to do,” White House spokeswoman Dana Perino said Tuesday.
Officials said the House request included the full text of all documents that had been partially or completely blacked out in the Justice Department’s initial release of more than 3,000 pages last month, including some U.S. attorney evaluations.
Justice officials said the request included an unredacted list ranking the performance and standing of each of the 93 U.S. attorneys. Government officials have previously confirmed that Chicago-based prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald, one of the Justice Department’s premier U.S. attorneys, was ranked as “not distinguished.” In addition, the documents being sought include any correspondence with journalists about the firing.
Democrats say statements by Gonzales and his lieutenants, three of whom have resigned in the aftermath of the dismissals, have raised questions over whether the ousters were politically motivated. The administration denies any wrongdoing.”
The leaders of the Executive Brand tried to make this branch the most powerful branch. But the Constitution makes it clear that Congress is the most pwerful branch. “Separate but Equal” isn’t a constitutional principle, let alone “the executive branch holds to most power”. For example, the Congress alone can remove members of the Executive and Judiciary branch members from office. But neither the Executive nor Judiciary branches can remove mebers of Congress from office.
The Congress alone has the power to decare war, and provide funding. This means that the Congress alone has the power to teminate war, and its funding.
Well Doc, I see we agree on one thing. The Executive branch is NOT endowed by God as the Bush maladministration assets.
Steve I give you they are 100% political. The judges involved were not following the agenda set by the present administration. They were making their own priorities. In Carol Lams case she was not prosecuting illegal aliens or the people bringing them in.
Ok now it is political. Where is the crime? They serve at the pleasure of the prez. This is a fishing expedition and they are sure stringing you along.
Mark what you say is true to a point. Congress cannot on it’s own take over a function that has been under the executive branch without cause. I don’t think there is a politician on either side of the aisle that wants this to change permanently.
Months from now when Leahy says ‘no harm, no fowl’ you will finally see the picture.
Mark Schooley: Perhaps I have missed something. Are you Heartlander?
Correctomundo
IIRC, it was Virginians who came up with total electoral votes being given to the majority presidential vote-getter for the 1800 election. Corrupt idea put forth by people who were able to count 3/5-person votes by people who were not allowed to vote. The winner-take-all proposition took root over almost everywhere. Nebraska instituted proportional electoral votes. Had every state done that Al Gore would now be president. The Florida fraudulent count wouldn’t matter. We wouldn’t have a Mister ex-cocaine snorting, alcoholic, failed in all his business ventures President.
I’m sorry that the hospital treated your wife that way. Can’t say I’d expect anything less from them.
Mark why don’t you tell us what you really think. You sure are a bitter person. Your wife got a raw deal. THat happens. Bush won the election and doing ‘what ifs’ doesn’t change anything. You made some awful accusations with no basis and from an educated person this is surprising.
I won’t defend Bush. He has made mistakes. We will never agree that this wasn’t completely his fault. Faulty intelligence and other things were behind his choices. I can’t say for certain that he knew anything the others didn’t when they voted to go to war.
He is a recovering alcoholic. Nothing was ever published by reputable sources about cocaine use.
THat happens. Bush won the election and doing ‘what ifs’ doesn’t change anything. You made some awful accusations with no basis and from an educated person this is surprising.Posted by: ksgrm | April 10, 2007 at 09:58 PM
Ksgrm,
You amaze me. On another thread, you whine about Bonnie Huy having the election stolen from her by Raj Goyle, and make several unsubstantiated accusations about “crimes” that were never committed.
And here you chide Mark about…the Bush election.
Oh my.
Tom can you only read every other word or what. My husband and I gave statements about his appearance inside the polling place. This was handled by the DA’s office. What did I say about him that wasn’t true?
Faulty intelligence that was questionable at the time. But BUSH knew the intel was faulty at the time…how do we know? Colin Powell and others who have said feverently and publicly that he did know.
You said he committed a crime. Ksgrm, giving a statement is not the same as a criminal conviction, or even a criminal charge. Obviously, law enforcement authorities determined no crimes had been committed.
Your candidate lost. Goyle won. Get over it already. Just like you said to Mark about Bush.
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Do you not remember all those who were saying ‘hold on wait a minute’ before we even went to war?
Tom the whole point I was making was that Goyle was inside the polling place campaigning. This is illegal. If the witnesses had said they felt intimidated there would have been charges filed. I didn’t want that to happen. My question was that he had to know this was illegal. The same morning he was also kicked out of the Lutheran church at Webb & Central.
Is this a sign of further sliding by the rule of law? That was my point.
Tom the whole point I was making was that Goyle was inside the polling place campaigning. This is illegal. If the witnesses had said they felt intimidated there would have been charges filed. I didn’t want that to happen. My question was that he had to know this was illegal. The same morning he was also kicked out of the Lutheran church at Webb & Central.
Is this a sign of further sliding by the rule of law? That was my point.
Pmom I don’t entirely agree with either side. I think we were premature in invading but I didn’t think that when we went in. Is it fair to expect a prez to say ‘whoops I made a mistake’ war canceled?
That’s why being prez is such a hard job. They all age about 20 years in the 8 years (or 4) they are in.
ksgrm,
You continue to dismiss the scandal surrounding the firing of the US Attorney’s, but it’s clear you really don’t understand anything about the issue.
Above you parrot the now discredited excuse that Carol Lam was fired for not prosecuting immigration cases. But here’s a funny thing. No one from DOJ ever mentioned this to Lam. Not once. In the TWO YEARS they spent reviewing US Attorneys following Bush’s 2004 victory, no one from Justice bothered to communicate this alleged concern to Lam. Doesn’t that seem just a tiny bit odd to you? NO ONE from the Department of Justice EVER mentioned any concern with Lam’s handling of immigration issues. This fact has been established in sworn testimony from both Lam and former Gonzales aide Kyle Sampson.
Furthermore, in one of the 3000 pages of documents thus far released we have an email in which one of the people involved in Lam’s firing offers an observation that is clearly meant to help form a cover story for the firing. That is, three of the US Attorney’s they were considering firing were from states near the border.
Will you give up on the immigration excuse now?
Oh, did I mention that Lam was heading the biggest public corruption case in memory? Lam won the bribery conviction of GOP Congressman Cunningham. That investigation was ongoing and had led to another Republican Congressman, Jerry Lewis of California, as well as Dusty Foggo, the former number two man at the CIA, and many others. Funny thing about that investigation. The day after Lam got search warrants for Foggo’s home and office, Sampson sent an email to a colleague noting that he wanted to discuss “the real problem we have with Carol Lam.”
By the way, three of Gonzales deputies have resigned since this scandal started unfolding. And one of them, Monica Goodling, has told Congress she plans to plead the 5th.
Dismiss this all you want with your empty talking points, but it’s not going away anytime soon. Gonzales is scheduled to testify soon. The fun hasn’t even begun yet.
An excellent column that uses IPCC’s recent temperature graphs to debunk a WSJ op-ed.
The WSJ even uses the old, completely discredited averaging temperatures BS, claiming that: “…(some have likened it to averaging all the phone numbers in the phone book).”
‘WSJ in denial about Global Warming’http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2007/04/wsj_in_denial_about_global_war.php
Mark,
Thanks.