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  1. Posted April 6, 2007 at 1:08 am | Permalink

    Reno County Republicans miffed by Governor Sebelius’ Appointment of Magistrate Judge. Kansas Judicial Nominating Process Flawed by Huge Political Money?

    Governor Sebelius establishes a nominating committee and then appoints a Democratic Party activist to Magistrate Judge in Hutchinson. ALL members of Sebelius’ nominating committee (except the chair) were Sebelius’ political contributors.

    The selection of judges in Kansas continues to be a biased, partisan process and in need of reform, yet the Kansas press pretends it’s a fair and impartial process and devoid of any politics.

    http://www.kansasmeadowlark.com/2007/04-04/index.htm

  2. Posted April 6, 2007 at 1:30 am | Permalink

    Enlightening post KSMeadowlark. Tons of info there. :)

  3. political_mom
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 3:56 am | Permalink

    you lost. Too bad. Isn’t that what you all said when repubs were in power?

    Yup, sux to be you.

  4. political_mom
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 6:03 am | Permalink

    AUGH It’s snowing again!

  5. JWink
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 6:17 am | Permalink

    For those interested in the WHITE ELEPHANT DOWNTOWN ARENA … the vaunted debate between the handful of pro-arena unaffiliated supporters and the RE-VOTE THE TAX-GULPING ARENA SUPPORTERS … didn’t take place as scheduled last night at the Sedgwick County Courthouse.

    Was it the snow that also cancelled the Wranglers opening game?

    NO … the word came down from on high in the pro-arena camp that “they” didn’t want to expose the now $300,000,000.38 albatross to public scrutiny. The attitude of the pro-arena people is the arena is not any of the business of the tax-paying citizens of Sedgwick County.

    For proponents, now would be an especially bad time to debate the wobbly 1/2 billion dollar project now that they are trying to figure out how to extend the county’s sales tax to raise another $100,000,000.32 for “infrastructure plus more snacks” in the vicinity of the arena and old town.

    So don’t expect any public debate of this albatross ice hockey arena in the near future.

  6. JWink
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 6:20 am | Permalink

    For those interested in the WHITE ELEPHANT DOWNTOWN ARENA … the vaunted debate between the handful of pro-arena unaffiliated supporters and the RE-VOTE THE TAX-GULPING ARENA SUPPORTERS … didn’t take place as scheduled last night at the Sedgwick County Courthouse.

    Was it the snow that also cancelled the Wranglers opening game?

    NO … the word came down from on high in the pro-arena camp that “they” didn’t want to expose the now $300,000,000.38 albatross to public scrutiny. The attitude of the pro-arena people is the arena is not any of the business of the tax-paying citizens of Sedgwick County.

    For proponents, now would be an especially bad time to debate the wobbly 1/2 billion dollar project now that they are trying to figure out how to extend the county’s sales tax to raise another $100,000,000.32 for “infrastructure plus more snacks” in the vicinity of the arena and old town.

    So don’t expect any public debate of this albatross ice hockey arena in the near future.

  7. Mark Schooley
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 7:30 am | Permalink

    The journal Science yesterday published article about extended–possibly permanent– drought in the Southwest.

    See http://www.latimes.com/news/science/la-sci-swdrought6apr06,0,122112.story?coll=la-home-headlines

    Is it time for Kansas’s leaders to begin long-term planning for water appropriation, use and conservation?

  8. Heckler
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 8:22 am | Permalink

    Frost delays at the Masters?

    God’s sure screwing with the Global Warming alarmists today.

  9. Mary Caruso
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 9:09 am | Permalink

    Nothing wrong with trying to curb the earth’s population, cleaning up the environment, and finding clean energy sources….what’s the problem? Why do the ditto heads treat those adressing the global warming problem as if they belong to some weird religious cult? What do YOU have to lose by others trying to take care of the earth? I just don’t get you people at all.

  10. political_mom
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 9:18 am | Permalink

    WEATHER is not climate. What part of…oh nevermind.

  11. Mark Schooley
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 9:41 am | Permalink

    The released Brit sailors and marines have done enormous damage to the United States. Why? Because, now safe at home, they are denying that they were in Iranian waters, even though they confessed to such while in Iranian captivity. They weren’t subjected to cruel and inhumane treatment, tortured, or anything like that. They were merely told that if they confessed they would be released, and returned to England, but if they did not confess, they would face 7 years imprisonment.

    So, they trusted their captors, who didn’t pull a “aha, gotcha, you’ve confessed, so it’s off to prison,” but instead were true to their word, and let them go.

    The problem they have created is proving that confessions made under duress have no validity, such as the ones extracted, under barbarian conditions, at Guantanamo and elsewhere.

    GWB and DC have every right to be livid about the Brits totally messing up America’s capture and interrogation system, by proving that detainees will say whatever they think their captors want to hear, in order to end unpleasantries associated with non-confession.

  12. AaronS
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 9:51 am | Permalink

    what the confesions show is that iran cant be trusted to tell the truth. that means they cant be trusted when they tell the world anything. i dont blame the sailers for lying they did it to be let go. are all the cops making criminals lie? i didnt think so. this is just about smart sailers and stupid iranans.

  13. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 10:00 am | Permalink

    …and on the subject of water….

    Here is a link to the Salina Journal story on the Kansas Water Authority meeting in Hutch.

    It seems FARMERS wanted to talk about the state’s awful record on reducing the over pumping of the aquifer. Heheheh.

    I just LOVE it when David Pope says somebody should be doing something when HE is the somebody who has been overappropriating water rights for over 20 years.

    Even the Water Authority’s own people say we arent even meeting our GOALS for reduction, much less setting APPROPRIATE goals given the water supply and the demands Pope has allowed.

    And where is the water coming from to support the Holcomb plant? All 30,000 acre feet to be used ANNUALLY?

    You got it. From the aquifer.

  14. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 10:01 am | Permalink

    Oops forgot the link

    http://www.saljournal.com/?module=displaystory&story_id=11269&format=html

    And I really do think it is nice of meadow to fill in for GS while she is on vacation. Tag team wingnuts. How clever.

  15. political_mom
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 10:09 am | Permalink

    What the confessions show is what we know all along, that when you’re scared, you’ll admit to anything if you think it’ll save your life.

    DO I fault the soldiers? Not one bit.

    But do I think all those confessions coming from the long-held and tortured prisoners of ours are real either? Nope.

  16. J M Walker
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 10:12 am | Permalink

    Gees, meadow, do you not understand to the victor goes the spoils? Do you not understand you lost? Do you not understand why? Do you not understand the fact the governor is replacing all the RR neo-cons with people who actually know what they’re doing? Of course, meadow has no interest in bringing kansas into the twenty-first century; his doctrine lies in reverting to the eighteenth.

  17. J M Walker
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 10:19 am | Permalink

    The price of eggs went up. Why? CORN! As in its demand for ethanol production has driven its price to record levels. We had a record month for rain in march. Guess where the water is going from that record? Yep, ethanol production from corn.

    The leaders of this country have embarked on a journey that, if left to its own devices, will further drain the aquifers in this state, leaving us with plenty of fuel, but no water. And last time I checked, you can’t drink fuel. Stupid! stupid! stupid!

  18. snarky
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 10:22 am | Permalink

    >>>And last time I checked, you can’t drink fuel.

    Sure you can! You just can’t buy it in Wichita package stores on Sundays.

  19. fleettwood
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 10:32 am | Permalink

    The Global Warming nuts:

    “”The poorest of the poor in the world — and this includes poor people in prosperous societies — are going to be the worst hit,” Pachauri said. “People who are poor are least able to adapt to climate change.”"

  20. kansassam
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 10:40 am | Permalink

    I like this man’s view on Christianity…..

    http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/04/martin.jesus/index.html

  21. Mark Schooley
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 10:45 am | Permalink

    AaronS,

    Take the lead officer’s now-insistance that two types of navigational devices, one of them military GPS, showed the Brits to be 1.5 miles outside of Iranian territorial waters. After specifying this, he said his team was “well within Iraqi waters”.

    But the actual “border” is disputed. They were in water that the team leader claims to be too shallow for frigate HMS Cornwall, which would be water less than 30 feet deep. So you could easily set up a string of border-marking buoys, once territorial boundaries were agreed upon, but there aren’t any.

    The Iranians may have access to Russian military GPS, but they may rely on civilian satellite-signal GPS. Could the Brits have conspired with our Administration to send out a false civilian-channel signal, and bait the Iranians to encroach outside of even Iran’s claimed territorial waters? Sure they could have. Would it be totally out of character for this to have been done? Not at all.

    Iran can’t be trusted to tell the truth? Who can in politics? The fact is, the Iranians were truthful with the British sailors and marines: “Confess, and we’ll let you go home.”

    On Saturday, the Wall Street Journal reported on a U.S. military prosecutor, Lt. Col Stuart Couch. who determined (by going through back channels to obtain info that the administration didn’t want him to see) that the man he was assigned to prosecute had given a confession under torture, and as a result this upstanding officer refused to serve as prosecutor on Christian principles, as well as international law.

    I guess what you’re concluding Aaron, is that the American administration can’t be trusted to tell the truth–even to its own patriotic real-American JAG officers.

    As to “stupid iranans” [Iranians] they’re Persians. Let’s say, hypothetically, you’re Jewish. The Books of Esther and Daniel tell us that Persian leaders were smart more often than stupid, and in fact Jews considered Persians to be wise. During the Middle Ages, Jews living in Muslim lands were treated far better than those living in Catholic lands. Had Maimonides lived in northern Europe we modern people would never have heard of him. If you have met any Iranians here, you’ve observed them to be very smart.

    The bottom lines are: Iran almost certainly made the capture either in disputed territorial waters–and you can’t say Iraq claimed this for itself, therefore it was Iraqi territory, such disputes can only be settled by mutual agreement–or else somebody jimmied the GPS civilian signal to *provoke* an incident, and the gambit ultimately failed, in that the Iranians acted honorably, smartly, and tactfully in defusing a potential provocational “bomb” set by the Anglo-Americans.

  22. Posted April 6, 2007 at 10:55 am | Permalink

    Wow a cheerleader for the Iranians. Pretty good conspiracy theories there Mark Schooley. Are you a writer?

  23. Posted April 6, 2007 at 11:12 am | Permalink

    Because according to Republican and his fellow neo-cons, our side is always right. They don’t need no stinking facts.

    They start with the conclusion they want and fill the facts in as needed.

  24. littlejohn
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 11:21 am | Permalink

    Kinda sounds like all politicians to me

  25. Posted April 6, 2007 at 11:33 am | Permalink

    http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2007/04/06/650943-british-crew-iran-blindfolded-detainees

    British Crew: Iran Blindfolded Detainees

  26. Posted April 6, 2007 at 11:35 am | Permalink

    Littlejohn–

    That’s what SHE said . . .

    Republican–

    You said yesterday that you had a “disability.” That doesn’t mean that you accept money from GASP! government WELFARE, does it?

  27. Posted April 6, 2007 at 11:41 am | Permalink

    It’s not welfare Capn, I earned it.

    But go ahead Wally, maybe you want to make something of my disability in front of all of these people.

    Show how fair minded you are and complain more about my disability.

    Come on Capn pick on the cripple. You can do it.

  28. Posted April 6, 2007 at 11:51 am | Permalink

    Republican,

    Boy, unattractive is as unattractive does, isn’t it? Calling yourself a cripple to bait the Cap’n into making fun of you?

    Hate yourself much, Republican?

  29. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 11:53 am | Permalink

    Republican, with all due respect, you have lied so many times here about so many things, you have zero credibility left.

    Wally? ROFLMAO!!! Surely the great and honorable golfnut wouldnt be trying to OUT someone here?

    Wanna give us YOUR first name? Did you get the “wally” part from an email forwarded to you by, um, GS? Like that is where you got my name too?

    As Tracy would say, pitiful. Just pitiful. He is so anxious to out others, post pictures of others, but when it comes to HIS identifying info? He disappears like the fart in the wind that he is.

    Please republican, do tell us what YOUR name is the next time you make a feeble attemp to OUT someone!

    Seems to me the only person here who is ashamed of who his is would be republican. And until he identifies himself, I think we can assume anything we want about him.

    Like he is just a fat greasy guy with a bad back who SAYS he was in the military and EARNED his welfare.

    Exactly how does one “earn” welfare?

    I call bullshit on all republican’s lies.

  30. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 11:54 am | Permalink

    hehehehehe. He is edging closer to a JM style meltdown. I expect it anytime soon.

    And he cant keep ALL those lies straight very long…

  31. Posted April 6, 2007 at 11:56 am | Permalink

    ksfarmgrrl,

    If doing so requires that you identify each lie individually, you’ve set yourself a Sisyphusian task.

    (Yeah, CF2K’s been to grad school. And no, he won’t apologize for it.)

  32. Posted April 6, 2007 at 11:57 am | Permalink

    I lied about what exactly ksfarmgrrl?

    The Wally part is easy, CapnAmerica has posted here under Galahad, Wally O’Dell and who knows what else. It’s all part of the blog history if you know how to search. He outted himself.

    You don’t know me and probably never will ksfarmgrrl and I like it like that.

  33. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 12:02 pm | Permalink

    Uh, mr. repuke? Capn has NEVER posted here as Wally O’Dell. And I see you really dont mind outing someone and printing their name do you? And I notice you called him OUT as Wall O’Dell the first day of the boycott.

    Pleased to be posting a link or a reference to Capn posting here as Wally O’Dell.

    Post it, or retire from the field in dishonor. We already know you are a lying chicken shit who outs folks.

    If not, post where he used the name Wally O’Dell anywhere but in a pilfered emial from GS.

  34. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 12:03 pm | Permalink

    Well surely a big ol’ ex military combat veteran wouldnt be afraid of little ol lesbian me, now would they?

    I dont like it that you know who I am, but it was worth it to prove I havent lied about a damn thing on this blog.

    And you? heheheheehheheheheeheh

    No honor. No shame. No truth.

  35. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 12:05 pm | Permalink

    “It’s all part of the blog history if you know how to search. He outted himself.”

    Well, since a good computer expert like you KNOWS how to search, it wont be any problem for you to search and then tell us where and when the Capn posted as Wally.

    Pleased to be showing us, since you dont have to rush off to work or anything…

  36. Posted April 6, 2007 at 12:10 pm | Permalink

    WE Blog title: Lieberman acted like a sissy, not a tough guy

    “Cosmos–

    I created a type key account.

    But how do you log in under that account and get back to this WEBlog page?

    Thanks.

    Wally O.

    Posted by: Wally O’Dell | August 12, 2006 at 12:31 PM”wally_o66@yahoo.comAnd ksfarmgrll, if you check CapnAmerica’s email you will find it matches that of Wally O’Dell.

    Capn has posted his email at least twice on the blog I believe in addition to it being in the email link line. One was to morg about a CD and I forgot the other one, but can find it.

  37. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 12:11 pm | Permalink

    Well, it’s been fun kickin’ republican and fundy butt today, but unlike SOME posters here, I have a job to do, so I better check on my pals at the Wichita Voice and then EARN my living….

    heheheheeheh

  38. CapnAmerica
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 12:12 pm | Permalink

    Okay, I gotta hand it to you, Republican.

    For a guy who has railed against SOCIALISM for as long and as often as you have, the fact that you’d ADMIT to living off the government teat is astonishing.

    That you’d continue to vote for the neo-cons who want to throw people like you in the street shows that not only are you ignorant of your own self-interest but that you are unsympathetic to all the other people in exactly the same situation that you are in.

    You accept the help that you condemn others for accepting.

    I would say that you’re “crippled” in only one way: BLIND to how government can create a better society.

  39. Posted April 6, 2007 at 12:18 pm | Permalink

    The only people who get thrown in the treat Capn are people who refuse to help themselves. I used to volunteer at the VA Center and McConnel before my back got worse. I can’t stand for any length of time (more than 5 minutes) without great pain.

    I used to help those veterans who were having difficulty finding jobs and dealing with life after service. Most of the time it was a matter of building their confidence.

    Yes, I’m unsympathetic of those who refuse to help themselves. Some have to be convinced that they can help themselves. Others just lay down and die.

    I don’t want to lay down and die.

  40. Posted April 6, 2007 at 12:20 pm | Permalink

    Notice how ksfarmgrrl didn’t acknowledge that I wasn’t lieing and found the information myself posted publicly on the WE Blog forum pages.

    But that’s the way Liberals are.

    And they wonder why I’m a Republican.

  41. Posted April 6, 2007 at 12:21 pm | Permalink

    Yes, let me set the record straight once again. When the blog first started, I posted under a number of names–sometimes it was simply because I grew tired of the nic I was using and other times it was to try to throw trolls off my trail.

    I posted under the nic of Proud Lib, True Blue, Galahad, Left Hook, and apparently Wally O’Dell. I didn’t remember the last one, but there it is . . .

    My e-mail address is wally_o66@yahoo.com. This is the e-mail address you get if you click on my “e-mail me” link on my typekey page. It’s out there for everyone to see.

    The one big difference between my nic switching and yours, Repub, is that I didn’t pretend to be DIFFERENT people in the process. I posted from my own real experience under every nic–I didn’t become a foreign national or a black man to give my posts more fake “credibility.”

    Also, since I learned how to use typekey to log in, I have not posted under any other nic but this one.

    That’s been since Aug 12, 2006 apparently.

    Now, let’s move on. This was tiresome before it started . . .

  42. Posted April 6, 2007 at 12:26 pm | Permalink

    Okay, Republican. Your volunteer work is admirable. Your determination to live a productive life is noble.

    But your sitting in judgement of others who need help when you’re on the dole yourself is mean-spirited and hypocritical.

    You don’t get to call people “socialists” when it’s us “socialists” who are helping you live a decent life.

    I don’t begrudge you that at all. I WANT my tax dollars to go to people who need them–as opposed to Halliburton and other big special interests.

    The problem I have with you, Republican, is that you benefit from the very system that you vociferously CONDEMN.

    If you don’t see the hypocrisy in that, then there’s no talking to you about it . . .

  43. Posted April 6, 2007 at 12:27 pm | Permalink

    I never switched names but once, and you will see it when you hover over the link.

    I never posted as anything that you say I did, but you have no proof and continue to assail me with your hatred of someone I don’t know or have ever met.

    Yes Capn, you are all about hatred.

    That is your motivating factor in life and what feeds your dark soul.

  44. Posted April 6, 2007 at 12:31 pm | Permalink

    Show me Capn where I have condemned anything to do with disabled veterans. I am a disabled Veteran.

    I will certainly put my stamp of abusive behavior on those perfectly healthy enough to draw food stamps and too lazy to do an honest day’s work. I will not back down from that.

    And yes, I don’t like Corporate welfare either. Nor do I like farm subsidies.

  45. Posted April 6, 2007 at 12:39 pm | Permalink

    Republican–

    Yes, I hate people so much I want my tax dollars to help them.

    I could use some that “hate” myself, hehe.

    Most of the welfare money that we pay doesn’t go to “lazy” people. It goes to children under 18.

    The fact that you were disabled while you were in the military doesn’t mean you “earned” it any more than any body else, IMHO.

    I have a friend in a wheelchair who was a contractor that fell 40 feet from a construction site. He “earned” it too.

    So does a six year old child who doesn’t have enough to eat.

    So does a family who spent four days trapped in their attic after Hurricane Katrina.

    So does a twenty-something employee at Dillard’s who got cancer and couldn’t afford health insurance.

    They all “earned” it.

  46. brian
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 12:40 pm | Permalink

    “That is your motivating factor in life and what feeds your dark soul”

    Republican, surely you could get something other than a temp job with your keen ability to read minds.

  47. littlejohn
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 12:45 pm | Permalink

    CapnAmerica,

    My perception is that you and I disagree on many things. However, I agree that those on your list certainly “earned” our help

  48. Posted April 6, 2007 at 12:49 pm | Permalink

    Thanks, Littlejohn.

    I think most people would.

    Now that question is why do so many people vote to deny folks like this government help?

    And part of the reason is Rush O’Hannity’s steady stream of hate and vituperation against “the welfare state” and “socialists” . . . which of course makes more federal money available for corporate welfare and tax breaks for the rich.

  49. Wendy
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 1:22 pm | Permalink

    oooh, wait wait wait – I will bite…

    When did Republican first start posting on here? The first time i REMEMBER seeing him post on here consistently was in February – so how is it that he knows about a post from AUGUST unless he was posting under another name (and I am including both Republican and Republikhan in this)

    Do I win a prize? I mean, I could search the whole WEBlog to make sure I didn’t miss any posts from him, I suppose, but I seem to remember him referring to himself as a new poster back in February (in a similar arguement as a matter of fact) so this would seem to disprove that statement, wouldn’t it…

    So Fleet – where do I get MY plaque?

  50. cosmos
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 1:23 pm | Permalink

    Republican,

    Do you believe that the 1995 storm was the “sole source cause” of the 2002 Larsen-B breakup?

    Was the warming in that region NOT a significant factor?

    ‘Larsen Ice Shelf 2002warmest summer on record leads to disintegration’http://web.pdx.edu/~chulbe/science/Larsen/larsen2002.html“Days before the final break-up, large meltponds are seen to contract, indicating that crevasses had cracked through the FULL thickness of the ice shelf and the surface water was begining to DRAIN to the sea.”

  51. GSheridan
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 2:15 pm | Permalink

    I have a feeling that if Wendy could stay ‘on task,’ instead of worrying about every conspiracy’ du jour, we might one day hear something interesting from her.

  52. Wendy
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 2:21 pm | Permalink

    You know, I was just responding to the topic at hand.. on an open thread there is really no “task” per se -

    But hey, if you want to be that way…

  53. GSheridan
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 2:25 pm | Permalink

    Just an observation, Wendy.

    When you contribute to the conversation it seems you really have some good ideas. But lately the only time I see a post of yours is when you’re more interested in stirring the pot. Maybe you should apply for the role of ‘board moderator.’

    Gawd knows they need one.

  54. Wendy
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 2:39 pm | Permalink

    No, I just elect to put in a comment when something about the topic “gets” me. Honestly, I haven’t had much time lately to be on the site anyways, so that is probably more to do with my posting pattern than anything…

  55. Posted April 6, 2007 at 3:42 pm | Permalink

    You’re right, Wendy.

    He “started” posting in February and immediately called WSClark “heebie” because WSC had mentioned many months before that he had a Jewish background (”heebie” = Heb or Hebrew).

    JM also used to talk about he was in the Air Force and he had “earned” his benefits . . . just like Republican.

    Also, I asked Republican about his son who he said had scored a 167 on the Stanford-Binet test. Republican didn’t come back for about twenty minutes after he had GOOGLED it.

    In other words, he couldn’t remember if he had said it or not.

    Now he says he was never married, which I probably means he never had a son, heigh ho.

    Just go back about a year or so and find a piece of information that anyone would know about themselves from one of these right-wing posters that sound just like Republican. I.e., Right Angle, JM, Eier, Uncle William etc. etc.

    Then ask Republican about it. He won’t be able to answer until he googles it to find out what he said before . . .

    Also, lastly, if one has any doubt about Republican’s basic honesty, see his post of a week or so again in which he selectively cuts and pastes WSClark’s post from the Wichita Voice to make it sound as if WSC admitted to trolling this site.

    WSC was in fact RIDICULING the idea that he was trolling here, as anyone could plainly see who had read the posts.

    Republican was blatently lying in an attempt to make WSC look bad.

    He has never explained or apologized for this by the way . . .

  56. Wendy
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 3:49 pm | Permalink

    Yes, Capn, I see your point. Just to back myself up, in case Republican tried to call me on my statements (which, I would ask you to note, he has not, although he is EXTREMELY quick to jump on anyone who specifically calls him by another name) I googled him myself. The FIRST post I could find under the name Republikhan, which we KNOW, and which he has admitted to posting under, is in 03/07… I find that rather interesting, personally.

    And GS – I guess my point was more to the fact that many are so happy to jump on the bandwagon accusing others of “trolling” and “stalking” and all such nonsense, but immediately backpedal when accused themselves. I myself have been accused of trolling, when anyone who even remotely pays attention can note that I NEVER HAVE… but that is another story altogether. I was simply pointing out the fact that Republican dug himself a rather deep hole with his earlier posts, and well, since he and many others on here so like to “congratulate” themselves on bagging other people, I figured that it was “okay” by the “new rules” to join in the fun… So sorry I forgot that only a select few are allowed… I can always take my posting elsewhere if we are going to play that game…

  57. Posted April 6, 2007 at 3:57 pm | Permalink

    Okay Wendy, I thought you had some common sense and perhaps some intelligence about how the Web works, but I guess I’m wrong.

    If I want to know who I’m dealing with, I investigate them. I have the time to do it, so I do it.

    I would not deeply investigated CapnAmerica, but he’s been harassing me ever since I came on here. I know even more about him that I put here on the blog. But, I’m willing to respect his privacy.

    So explain how this deep hole you say I dug does exactly what?

    That I’m smart enough to know how to Web search people I interact with?

    Since you appear to have me “pegged” Wendy, tell me exactly what you think I am.

    What are my degrees in? How tall am I? What do I weigh?

    According to ksfarmgrrl, I’m a short fat guy named golfnutz.

    According to CapnAmerica I’m a plethora of identities.

    Or do you just defend anyone who is a Democrat Wendy? Even if they accuse a disabled veteran of sponging from the government.

    Is that your bottom line Wendy? Party over rational thinking?

  58. Posted April 6, 2007 at 4:05 pm | Permalink

    I appreciate your not sharing my real life identity, Republican, and I mean that in all sincerity.

    It wouldn’t be that hard if you wanted to take the time–and you had no life–to piece together a profile of someone who posts here regularly . . . if they weren’t just lying their ass off all the time.

    It’s possible that we’re all wrong about you. That you were a brand new post-er in March. That you had just done very thorough background checks on our old posts.

    Or it’s possible that you were a nic-switcher like JM who enjoys jerking people around because you have no life and this is as close to fun as you get. Oh, another piece of evidence I forgot to mention, when someone posted on the 1896 8th grade test a few weeks ago, JM was johnny-on-the-spot to respond to it, even though he vowed he was gone for good . . .

    Which one would you believe if you were an objective observer? Which one is easier to believe?

  59. ksgrm
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 4:07 pm | Permalink

    Wendy when you first started posting you made some valid points and argued in a calm manner. That is how civilized society interacts. Now you have gone so far to the left that none of your posts are articulate let alone informative. You seem to have sold out to an element that wants to do nothing but trash this blog. Right or left it doesn’t matter if discourse is only about who everyone really is and what did you say two months. By the way I don’t troll, post under one name always and wish we could have an adult blog.

  60. Posted April 6, 2007 at 4:09 pm | Permalink

    Also, the veiled threat “I know more about you than I’m saying (so shut up or I’m going nuclear on you)” is exactly how JM responded to the service-man Andrew posting from Iraq.

    JM basically threatened to report him to his superiors.

    Interesting coincidence, isn’t it.

  61. Posted April 6, 2007 at 4:10 pm | Permalink

    Thanks, Ksgram.

    Me too.

  62. Posted April 6, 2007 at 4:15 pm | Permalink

    There was no veiled threat Capn. I know I could get in trouble for posting private information about people, I don’t do it.

    I don’t go nuclear on people, I have no reason to do so. What would anyone go nuclear on a service man? Did he do something criminal?

    Nevermind, I’ll research it and see what was said.

  63. Posted April 6, 2007 at 4:26 pm | Permalink

    Okay, glad it wasn’t a threat, and thanks for reiterating that.

    But what about re-posting WSClark’s post spinning it as if he had lied about trolling, when if fact your post was the lie?

  64. Anonymous
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 4:30 pm | Permalink

    I don’t remember that one, other than WSClark saying he posted as someone in retaliation or something like that.

  65. Posted April 6, 2007 at 4:34 pm | Permalink

    That was me where there was a blank. I got one of those number verification things. When I came back to look, my name was missing.

  66. fleettwood
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 4:38 pm | Permalink

    “So Fleet – where do I get MY plaque?”

    wendy- Probably from not brushing your tooth.

  67. Wendy
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 4:47 pm | Permalink

    First of all Republican, I am NOT a Democrat – and if you read my past posts, you will note that I do agree with opposing sides on certain things – I have had this debate too many times to do it again.

    Secondly, I am sorry that I am apparently not allowed to be sarcastic on here from time to time, as other posters are wont to do… I was simply pointing out inconsitencies in your comments – since you have pointed out where you came up with the info, fine… I stand corrected. (See, I am not afraid to admit when I am wrong – and this isn’t the first time I have done so, either)

    Third – I did not respond other than in the SARCASTIC manner of my first post until someone else made negative comments to me – which by the way, is the only time that I continue with a subject meant to be a joke. But again, if rules only apply to certain people…

    And ksgrm – give me one prime example where i am not articulate or where I have sold out – everyone else seems perfectly able to understand my points. And quite frankly, simply because I don’t happen to agree with you on something, doesn’t mean I have “gone so far left” that i don’t know what I am talking about anymore – it simply means that I don’t agree with you on something… and really, I wasn’t the one who made this blog childish, that got taken care of a long time ago by a LOT of people, some of whom still post here, some of whom don’t, and some who have since apologized and no longer play such games, and some who still do it…

  68. Posted April 6, 2007 at 4:48 pm | Permalink

    Wow! The computer whiz just couldn’t find his own post. Seems odd doesn’t it?

    Here ya go, Republican. Maybe this will refresh your memory:

    From the Open Thread, March 27, 2007–

    Admission by WSClark on the Wichita Voice Blog…

    This has been an interesting day, to say the least. I’ve been busyas Hell today, not including my time “posting” on the OTHER blog,and I’m not looking forward to tomorrow. I prefer to handle my mischief via telephone, but that just won’t work in this situation.

    Posted by: Republican | March 28, 2007 at 12:18 AM

  69. fleettwood
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 4:53 pm | Permalink

    “First of all Republican, I am NOT a Democrat…”

    wendy– I’ll put on my ESP hat and guess……you are an independent and consider each issue on its merits, because you are so thoughtful.How’d I do?

  70. Wendy
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 4:55 pm | Permalink

    Seriously, fleetwood? Aren’t you the one I had this discussion with first? And aren’t you the one, who, when I posted my personal stance on the subjects YOU requested to know, had no further response for me because I completely proved your statement wrong?

  71. Posted April 6, 2007 at 4:58 pm | Permalink

    I looked at the open thread for 27 March, I was talking about IP and such things.

    I have no idea what the Wichita Voice entry means other than WS Clark admitting he posted on WE Blog under a different name.

    Frankly I don’t care if he posted as Howdy Doody on 27 March or any other day.

  72. ksgrm
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 4:58 pm | Permalink

    Wendy my point was not to let yourself be drawn into these childish games. When others who are not involved start piling on it just raises the mob mentality and it goes downhill from there.

    When you stay on topic you have some good points as I have pointed out in the past but lately the only times I see you posting is when you are joining in the name calling and finger pointing.

    If that isn’t right you have my apologies.

  73. fleettwood
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 5:03 pm | Permalink

    “Seriously, fleetwood?”

    So, wendy, am I correct? You are a proud Independent? Carnak wants to know.

  74. WSClark
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 5:11 pm | Permalink

    “I have no idea what the Wichita Voice entry means other than WS Clark admitting he posted on WE Blog under a different name.”

    You are a motherfuckin’ liar, Republican…………….

    I have posted as WSClark. I posted in repsonse to Ian Santiago as Jew Boy, each time with an text “finger.”

    I have never used another nic. You are such a liar that you have to trash me even though I do not post on this blog anymore.

    You are a liar and you know it.

    You have no shame.

  75. Posted April 6, 2007 at 5:13 pm | Permalink

    So you’re saying, Republican, that this showed that WSC was posting on the WEBlog under other names . . . when it’s perfectly clear that this is NOT what he meant.

    Especially if one goes and looks at the original WSC post on the weblog.

    You lied about his post and you know it.

    For a second there, you had me going.

    I entertained the thought that perhaps I was wrong about you being a liar.

    Now you’ve confirmed it beyond a shadow of a doubt for everyone to see.

  76. Posted April 6, 2007 at 5:13 pm | Permalink

    I see WSClark has come back in his own unique style. :)

  77. Posted April 6, 2007 at 5:14 pm | Permalink

    Thanks for weighing in on this, Clarkster.

    Good to see you back.

    Don’t let this lying POS meshugganah b*st*rd run you off.

    He isn’t worth spitting on.

  78. Posted April 6, 2007 at 5:16 pm | Permalink

    Meshugganah mamser is what I should’ve said . . .

  79. WSClark
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 5:17 pm | Permalink

    …………… so Khan, explain to everyone why you referred to me as “Heevie” with your first first post addressed to me.

    You have already admitted that it was in reference to my Jewish heritage, so why the slur?

    What, you don’t like to be called out on your hypocrisy?

    No shame, Khan, you are not even smart enough to be ashamed of your hypocrisy.

  80. Posted April 6, 2007 at 5:17 pm | Permalink

    Oh, and speaking of harassment, Republican, I think I’ll re-post your March 28th post every DAY until you apologize for it.

  81. Posted April 6, 2007 at 5:17 pm | Permalink

    “This has been an interesting day, to say the least. I’ve been busyas Hell today, not including my time “posting” on the OTHER blog,”From the Open Thread, March 27, 2007–

    Admission by WSClark on the Wichita Voice Blog…

    So WSClark was lieing about posting on the other blog on March 27 or ?

    Is he going to blow another profanity gasket?

  82. fleettwood
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 5:18 pm | Permalink

    “You are a motherfuckin’ liar, Republican…………….”

    Classy to the end, heeb traitor.

    Melt down in 3…2…1

  83. Posted April 6, 2007 at 5:19 pm | Permalink

    I’ve got to run, Mesugganah Mamser.

    Have an nice evening . . .

  84. Posted April 6, 2007 at 5:20 pm | Permalink

    Every single DAY . . . count on it, MM.

  85. Posted April 6, 2007 at 5:24 pm | Permalink

    Fleettwood–

    By the simple law of averages if you post often enough, you’ll say something worth reading.

    That still hasn’t happened.

    But keep trying. Some day, a random keystroke will inadvertantly make you say something interesting . . .

    Kinda like a room full of monkeys hammering away on keyboards.

  86. WSClark
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 5:25 pm | Permalink

    What a bunch of losers you two are, lying (notice the correct spelling) sons-of-bitches. Neither one of you are worth a nickel.

    As usual, the self-appointed Queen of the Blog resorts to false accusations and hypocrisy.

    And the Court Jester, chimes in with slurs and inuendo.

    What happened to your claim to civility on the blog, Khan?

    Oh, and don’t give me amy shit about starting it with profanity. You made a false accusation and you knew it was false, that makes you a liar.

  87. fleettwood
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 5:27 pm | Permalink

    “amy shit”

    I think I went to skool with her.

  88. Posted April 6, 2007 at 5:27 pm | Permalink

    Clark,

    He’s trying to figure out how to make his lie seem like some kind of “accident” or “misunderstanding.”

    See his lame excuse yesterday that ANOVA used to be spelled aNOVA back when he took statistics, heh.

    Give the man some time to figure out how to lie about his lie, Clark . . . it should be a real whopper.

    I’m looking forward to it.

  89. WSClark
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 5:30 pm | Permalink

    Yeah, Capn’, I am waiting for Khan to explain that “Heevie” was meant to be a compliment…..

  90. fleettwood
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 5:35 pm | Permalink

    ” I will not go back to blog X. I might post once to tell them how I feel, but I will stay with Wichita Voice.”

  91. Posted April 6, 2007 at 5:36 pm | Permalink

    Oh my goodness Capn! I made a mistake about a statistics term from a class I took 30 years ago! Please forgive me for my transgressions. :)

    It wasn’t a compliment WS Clark. Look up Heevie Jeevie and settle your soul. (explained for the 1000th time now.)

    Paranoia strikes fear, Stop look what’s that sound…

  92. Posted April 6, 2007 at 5:38 pm | Permalink

    Fleettwood,

    You think I should use profanity and call WSClark a @#$@!@$!@#$!#$ liar because he said ,”" I will not go back to blog X. I might post once to tell them how I feel, but I will stay with Wichita Voice.”

    Does that make him a liar or a Liberal.

    I get the two confused Fleettwood, help me out here.

  93. fleettwood
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 5:43 pm | Permalink

    “Does that make him a liar or a Liberal.”

    That would be a distinction without a difference.

  94. WSClark
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 5:47 pm | Permalink

    Alerts, you idiot. I know when someone is referencing me on this blog – doesn’t take a genius.

    As for “Heevie” Khan, you already admitted that it was a variation on “Heeb” an ethnic slur.

    So why did you address your first post to me with a slur on my heritage and how does that square with your self-proclaimed desire for a civil blog?

  95. fleettwood
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 5:51 pm | Permalink

    “…it was a variation on “Heeb” an ethnic slur.”

    In context, wouldn’t it be only a 1/10 slur? Or if I said “Kraut”, maybe another tenth? Or any other of the 15 different ethnics you subscribe to?Loser.

  96. Posted April 6, 2007 at 5:55 pm | Permalink

    Show me where I said Heevie or Heeb is racial slur.

    Maybe I was confused WSClark, you lay claim to so much ancestry, Jewish decent one day, Black descent the next and Native American after that.

    Perhaps you can check the box on the Census report that says other.

    Maybe you can clarify what part of understanding you don’t understand.

    Are you confused about being confused?

  97. WSClark
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 5:55 pm | Permalink

    Fleet Idiot, everytime anyone thinks that you have reached a new low, you dive even deeper.

    If you want to attack me based on my mixed heritage, have at it.

    It is only a reflection on you and the right wing morons and bigots that you call friends.

    By the way, look up Melungeon.

    I have to admit, despite everything, I still feel sorry for you. It must be tough going through life intellectually challenged.

    I wish you well – perhaps in time, medical science can give you a brain transplant.

    Let’s hope they are not too late.

  98. fleettwood
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 5:58 pm | Permalink

    ” I will not go back to blog X. I might post once to tell them how I feel, but I will stay with Wichita Voice.”

    Then I will post, and maybe in 45 minutes, somebody will post, then in, maybe, an hour, somebody will post. I do have my honor, you know.

  99. fleettwood
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 5:59 pm | Permalink

    “…perhaps in time, medical science can give you a brain transplant.”

    Ouch. Your mother wears army boots.

  100. Posted April 6, 2007 at 5:59 pm | Permalink

    Maybe someone is trolling WSClark Fleettwood, we should give him the benefit of the doubt.

    :)

  101. WSClark
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 6:00 pm | Permalink

    “Show me where I said Heevie or Heeb is racial slur.”

    I SAID Heeb was an ethnic slur, as would any person of Jewish ancestry. You SAID that “Heevie” was a variation on “Heeb.”

    As for my mixed heritage: I have never claimed to be anything other than multi-ethnic. I have never singled out one or another portion of my heritage. I am what I am, part European, part Native and part African American.

    BTW – I would like to see you roll into a synagogue and yell out “Hi, Heebs!”

  102. fleettwood
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 6:03 pm | Permalink

    “part African American.”

    Which part? If you know what I be sayin’.

  103. WSClark
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 6:03 pm | Permalink

    No trolls, Khan this is the real me. You started trashing me on the blog without reason and evidence.

    I came back once to explain my reasons for leaving. I had not intended to return. You had no cause to attack me. You only did it because I was not here to defend myself.

    You can try to rationalize your attitudes anyway you want, but you are only for civility on the blog when everyone agrees with you.

    You accused me of lying – I called you on it.

  104. blogalooie
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 6:06 pm | Permalink

    Dear WEBlog editors:Thank you for setting up this public blog in which readers can post their views. It is an excellent concept.But in practice, it needs serious improvement. As it is now, a poster can steal people’s nicknames and seem to make them say things totally contrary to their beliefs. This has resulted in many misunderstandings and angry responses. A poster can use a variety of nicknames and seem to be more than one person. Because nic-switching is so easy, any check on the truth of what a “pop-up” poster is saying is virtually impossible. Profanity, racial and ethnic slurs, homophobic rants, and insults of the most vile nature are hurled with impunity. Some posters have even followed through on trying to meet another who has offended them . . . and it wasn’t to shake hands.The Eagle must take more responsibility for the monster it has created. It could monitor IP addresses and ban trolls and nic-switchers. It could pull posts that are profane or racist. It could ban posters whose intention is only to insult and annoy.We the undersigned have opted to boycott the WEBlog as a demonstration of our desire for change in the way the WEBlog is managed. We look forward to time when the WEBlog can be as edifying and educational as it was meant to be.

    Sincerely,Tracy, WSClark, Mary Caruso, WichiWoman, KSFrmGrrl, Steven Davis, gdub, political-mom, Ben Huie, XXX, .morg, Julie, CapnAmerica

  105. GW not
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 6:06 pm | Permalink

    Fallen of war fly home with more dignityBy BILL POOVEY, Associated Press Writer

    John Holley said an airline executive told him that was the “most expeditious” way to get the body home.

    “I said, `That’s not going to happen with my son. That’s not how my son is coming home,’” said Holley, an Army veteran from San Diego whose son, Spc. Matthew Holley, was killed by a roadside bomb in Iraq in 2005. “If it was `expeditious’ to deliver them in garbage trucks, would you do that?”

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070406/ap_on_re_us/military_bodies

  106. Posted April 6, 2007 at 6:09 pm | Permalink

    Umm, interesting letter bloggaluie.

    Whatever tickles your fancy WSClark.

  107. fleettwood
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 6:12 pm | Permalink

    “We the undersigned have opted to boycott the WEBlog as a demonstration of our desire for change in the way the WEBlog is managed.”

    But…, not really. It was just symbolic. Like the Cut The Funding vote. No substance. Courage of convictions? Just kidding. We have none. Cut And Run? Got lots of that.

  108. WSClark
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 6:12 pm | Permalink

    Explain yourself, Khan; why did you refer to me as “Heevie” with your very first post addressed to me?

    Anti-Semitic?

  109. GSheridan
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 6:14 pm | Permalink

    Oh, Hell, WS – you can come back. FarmFap came back, after all.

    Lots of folks came back. If you have another board you like – super. I’m on a number of boards, not just this one.

    You can be on more than one board.

    But, do us a favor….please…..don’t JUST TROLL this board.

    I’m multi-ethnic, too.

    German, English, Czech…

    But I don’t define myself by those.

    I’m AMERICAN.

    That’s what defines me.

  110. WSClark
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 6:15 pm | Permalink

    Talk about no courage of his convictions….. Khan refers to me with a self-admitted variation on an ethnic slur and cannot bring himself to admit it in public.

    No stones, Khan?

    If you meant to use an ethnic slur, say so. I would expect that of a right wingers like you.

    If it is not true, explain what you meant by the “Heeb” reference.

  111. WSClark
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 6:22 pm | Permalink

    “German, English, Czech…”

    Caucausian – Ethnic group.

    William Stephenson Clark – Caucasian, Jewish, Native and African American – several ethnic groups.

    “don’t JUST TROLL this board.”

    As I noted before, I do not troll and I have only used two nics WSClark and Jew Boy. WE Blog asked me to stop with the “finger” and I complied when they asked.

    I am damned sick and tired of you folks accusing me of multi-nic’ing. Didn’t happen. Never will happen.

    But I am still waiting for the anti-Semite Khan to explain himself.

    And, no, I am not back except to defend myself.

  112. Posted April 6, 2007 at 6:28 pm | Permalink

    Here you go WSClark, I like both definitions from Wikipedia and of course the alternative use of what scat means. :)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heebie_Jeebies

    Heeb…get it? hah! :)

  113. WSClark
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 6:31 pm | Permalink

    And, by the way, GSher, my only reason for boycotting was to support Linda Inks, who was called a slut by some spineless WE Blog troll.

    And, by the way, Linda is NOT coming back here because of the abuse she took, including the attacks from you.

    She is a good woman a deserves for better than what she received.

    As for me, I am a son of a bitch and I know it.

  114. fleettwood
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 6:33 pm | Permalink

    “And, by the way, Linda is NOT coming back here because of the abuse she took, including the attacks from you.”

    That’s what you said.

  115. WSClark
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 6:34 pm | Permalink

    “Heeb…get it? hah! :)”

    In your first post adressed to me, you referred to me a “Heevie.”

    Why?

    You admitted that it was a variation on “Heeb” not Heevie-Jeebie, etc.

    So why the hypocrisy?

    You were the one that insisted that posters should be addressed by their screen names, so why did you refer to me a “Heevie?”

  116. GSheridan
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 6:35 pm | Permalink

    Did you see the “…” I put after Czech?

    That’s because I’ve got some of that goddamn Jew in me, too. Can’t tell with the blond hair and blue eyes, though, but, according to Orthodox Jewry, my maternal gram, who left the Jewish faith but never converted to another religion (formally) still passes the (whatever) down to us.

    But, I still cook milk products in separate pots from meat, and have a couple of idiosyncrasies that lasted when the religion went out the window.

    I’m STILL American – born and bred and thrilled to be.

    And I have a tiny nose, too. Isn’t that spiffy?

  117. WSClark
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 6:36 pm | Permalink

    “That’s what you said.”

    That is what she shared with me and the rest of the boycotters.

  118. GSheridan
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 6:37 pm | Permalink

    Sorry, WS – I NEVER attacked Linda on this forum.

    Years ago I said something to her – and have since apologized.

    I treated Linda with kid gloves here.

    You, my dear – are a LIAR about that.

  119. GSheridan
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 6:38 pm | Permalink

    I do NOT believe Linda EVER said I attacked her on THIS FORUM.

    I have NOT known her to lie like that.

    I think YOU made it up.

  120. WSClark
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 6:38 pm | Permalink

    So, GSher, if you have Jewish ancestry, why don’t you condemn the “Heevie” comments from Khan?

    Obviously, self-admitted, he didn’t mean it as a compliment, so why haven’t you slammed him for his attack?

  121. Posted April 6, 2007 at 6:40 pm | Permalink

    Because Mr. Clark i thought for years Heebie Jeebies was spelled as Heevie Jeevies until I stood corrected by Wikipedia.

    Much ado about nothing as usual with WS Clark.

  122. Posted April 6, 2007 at 6:41 pm | Permalink

    waits for WSClark to go into denial again, even though this has been explained to him over and over and over.

  123. WSClark
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 6:44 pm | Permalink

    I am not claiming that I am speaking for Linda, but what she shared with us was that she was not coming back to this Blog and part of the reason was that you had attacked her at some point and she was still smarting from that.

    I do not know exactly when or what the circumstances were, but I know what she meant.

    I am neither a liar nor do I make things up.

    And I resent the implication.

    You folks just dont’ get it do you – you can’t make accusations and spread inuendo and expect us to just take it.

    I am a nasty bastard and I am a vicious fighter – people like Linda Inks do not want to fight like that. I can play the game with any of us and stand my ground.

    You folks want a more civil blog, but as soon as I come back to defend myself, Fleet calls me a Heeb Traitor.

    So much for the new civility.

  124. GSheridan
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 6:45 pm | Permalink

    Because, I don’t give a shit, WS. My thoughts are that you were not called that because you have Jewish blood, but because you are an ass.

  125. Posted April 6, 2007 at 6:47 pm | Permalink

    Because, I don’t give a shit, WS. My thoughts are that you were not called that because you have Jewish blood, but because you are an ass.

    Posted by: GSheridan | April 06, 2007 at 06:45 PM

    GSheridan, You can go get your plaque now. :)

  126. fleettwood
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 6:48 pm | Permalink

    “she was not coming back to this Blog”

    But, that’s what you said. What happened?

  127. WSClark
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 6:50 pm | Permalink

    Republican, you are such a flaming hypocrite. You already have admitted that “Heevie” was a variation on “Heeb.”

    Why would anyone refer to me as Heeb if it was not meant to be a slam on my Jewish ancestry?

    Would you walk up to people on the street and call them a Heeb?

    And what happened to your demand that posters refer to each other by their chosen screen names?

    Does that rule apply to everyone except you?

  128. fleettwood
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 6:51 pm | Permalink

    “Fleet calls me a Heeb Traitor.”

    Only because it makes youcrazy(ier). You’re too easy. “Don’t ever let them see you sweat.” You let us see you sweat all the time. Dope.

  129. Posted April 6, 2007 at 6:51 pm | Permalink

    (rolls eyes at the extremely dense WSClark)

  130. WSClark
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 6:53 pm | Permalink

    Well, GSher, Khan has already admitted that Heevie was a variation on Heeb, but that seems to mean nothing to you because he is on your side of the fence.

    So what I can gather is you folks have no desire for “civility” just civility from those that disagree with you. You apparently feel free to attack as you always have.

    In other words, the King and Queen of the Blog are flaming hypocrites.

  131. WSClark
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 6:54 pm | Permalink

    So thos ename calling rules that the King and Queen wanted to established were just more bullshit for the right wing idiots?

    Tell me that you folks were not LYING?

  132. WSClark
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 6:57 pm | Permalink

    ………. and by the way, Fleet, I am having a beer or two, watching Hardball and laughing my ass off at you and your daddy…..

    No sweat.

  133. fleettwood
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 6:57 pm | Permalink

    You keep the fuzzy blanket of perceived insults holding you so tight. It must be the warmth of Victimhood. Would that be the persecution of the Jews, Blacks, Irish, blah blah blah.

    Hey, I’m a victim! fap fap fap

  134. GSheridan
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 6:59 pm | Permalink

    WS – no, it’s because I don’t DEFINE myself as a part of ANY minority.

    Im a woman who REFUSES to join NOW (National Organization of Women.)

    You have said some really crappy things here yourself, so why are you acting all innocent now?

    Just move on.

    Quit playing the victim.

    I REFUSE to be a victim.

    I guess that’s what makes us different.

  135. Mark Schooley
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 7:02 pm | Permalink

    Monica Goodling, Alberto Gonzales’ aide who said she would take the Fifth if brought before the Senate to testify about the 8 US attorney firings, has resigned.

    Any ideas out there on what this means?

  136. WSClark
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 7:03 pm | Permalink

    What an idiot you are Fleet.

    I was taken from my birth family at the age of six. It was not until I was forty-five that I knew the full extent of my heritage.

    I pass for white. As I have noted many times before, unless I told you, you most likely could not guess my heritage – that in no way minimizes my ancestry.

    I am rightfully proud of my heritage. There is nothing that idiots like you could say that would change that.

    I do find that your hypocrisy, along with that of Republican and GSheridan to be humorous, if not disconcerting.

    But I really should not expect anymore from any of you.

  137. fleettwood
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 7:10 pm | Permalink

    ws, When your German side wants to buy Cyanide to kill you, does your Jewish side charge him retail? When your Irish side wants to get drunk, does your Native American side join in?

  138. WSClark
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 7:11 pm | Permalink

    “I REFUSE to be a victim.”

    No victim here, GSher. I am a big boy that is PROUD of who I am.

    Where we are different is that I find people that attack others based on their heritage to be the worst of the worst.

    I never played the victim when it came to my Jewish heritage. I called out Santiago out. I called RepubliKhan out. I called JM out.

    I called them out, not for me, but those that come after me. I called them out for those that cannot or will not fight back as I do. I called them out because to judge ANYONE based on race, color, creed, ethnic background or sexual orientation is just flat out wrong.

    If you don’t like my politics – fine – I don’t like your either.

    But don’t attempt to diminish my point of view because of the factors of my birth.

    And quite frankly, GSher, you should also condemn ethic slurs as well. Your children and grandchilden will be subject to the same slurs.

    Why would you allow them to go unchallenged?

  139. fleettwood
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 7:16 pm | Permalink

    ws, Did you grow up in these cultures? Were you surrounded by Jewish, German, Native Americans and on and on? I doubt it. What? You somehow heard that you were all of these things and thought it would be cool? Maybe an identity you could bore people with? Who gives a shit? Only you.

  140. Sanford
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 7:17 pm | Permalink

    I don’t think some here are way too serious, and do not understand/enjoy the levity being tossed out.

    Tomorrow is ‘moving day’ at the Master’s.Wish tomorrow was my wife’s ‘moving day’.botta bing ………. that was for you ws.

  141. Pedant
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 7:22 pm | Permalink

    “Monica Goodling, Alberto Gonzales’ aide who said she would take the Fifth if brought before the Senate to testify about the 8 US attorney firings, has resigned.

    Any ideas out there on what this means?”Posted by: Mark Schooley | April 06, 2007 at 07:02 PM

    No clear idea, but get this: Goodling makes “her” announcement late on a Friday.

    Uh oh. We all know what THAT means.

    Seems pretty reasonable to conclude that, given Jedi Prez W’s “bad news out on late Friday” pattern to date, it ain’t good news for Commander Codpiece.

    ‘Course if it results in a weakened administration then that’s GREAT news for the rest of us!

    Have a GREAT weekend, ever’body!!! :)

  142. WSClark
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 7:22 pm | Permalink

    “You somehow heard that you were all of these things and thought it would be cool?”

    No you flaming idiot, I searched for forty years to find my heritage and it is all documented. I can trace my family tree, with all of the branches, back to England and Norway and Ireland. As for the other branches, I am continuing to research but the ethnic origin are known as fact. I can trace my roots to 1620 and before.

    So Cheney you, fleet.

  143. WSClark
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 7:33 pm | Permalink

    Oh, and just so Fleet doesn’t wet his pants with false accusations….

    My paternal grandfther was a German Jew.

    My maternal grandmother was half Cherokee.

    My maternal grandfather’s heritage included black slaves.

    My maternal grandmother was Norweigan.

    My paternal grandfather has half Irish.

    My maternal grandmother was half English.

    …. anymore questions?

  144. WSClark
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 7:35 pm | Permalink

    Waiting for answers, Republican, why the ethnic slurs?

  145. fleettwood
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 7:35 pm | Permalink

    “I can trace my family tree, with all of the branches,…”

    So what? My grandmother spent thousands paying a researcher, then wrote a book of some 250 pages about my mom’s side of the family (she was well off).

    Turns out we came from the border of France and Germany someplace.SO WHAT? They passed through Ohio, too. Does that make me a Bengal?

  146. WSClark
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 7:42 pm | Permalink

    No Fleet, you’re still an idiot.

  147. Posted April 6, 2007 at 7:52 pm | Permalink

    What ethnic slur?

    Are you a German or a Jew. Being Jewish is a faith, not a race.

    If you are a Hebrew, then you are a direct descendant from Abraham.

    If you are a Semite, then you are mostly likely from Israel ascendancy. If you are not a Semite as Abraham was then you cannot be a Hebrew.

    So are you claiming you are from the tribe of Abraham now WSClark?

    Are you a Semite or a German? Are you a Hebrew or descendant from Germans who practiced the Jewish faith.

    If your ancestors practice the Jewish faith, then they cannot pass any bloodline down to you.

    You are simply of German ancestry.

    It would be like me saying my ancestors were Catholics and they were born in Germany.

    Therefore I’m a Catholic. (buzzzz)

  148. WSClark
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 7:53 pm | Permalink

    “Are you a German or a Jew. Being Jewish is a faith, not a race.”

    A Jew is a Semite, as are Arabs. It is consider to be an ethnic group.

    So why the ethnic slur, Khan?

  149. fleettwood
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 7:55 pm | Permalink

    I’m just posting this again because it was damned funny.

    “ws, When your German side wants to buy Cyanide to kill you, does your Jewish side charge him retail? When your Irish side wants to get drunk, does your Native American side join in?”

  150. WSClark
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 7:59 pm | Permalink

    You are just a hypocrite, Khan, you don’t have the guts to admit that you made an ethnic slur.

    Explain to the six million that it was not a slur.

    Explain to any right thinking human that it was not a slur.

    Explain to any Israeli that it was not a slur.

    Then explain to me why you would use the term Heeb/Heevie to refer to me?

    Being Jewish is a lot more than the practice of Judeaism…..

    Ask the six million.

  151. fleettwood
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 8:00 pm | Permalink

    “So why the ethnic slur, Khan?”

    I’ll tell you why.It was because he knew it bugged you.No more, no less.You are like the younger brother. The older brother knows what pulls your strings.

    You’re like when my own (younger)brother didn’t want to be called “Jimmie” anymore. He wanted to be called “Jim”.

    That was his mistake.

  152. fleettwood
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 8:01 pm | Permalink

    “…you don’t have the guts to admit that you made an ethnic slur.”

    Ahhh, the fuzzy blanket.

  153. Posted April 6, 2007 at 8:01 pm | Permalink

    So why the ethnic slur, Khan?

    Posted by: WSClark | April 06, 2007 at 07:53 PM

    Asked and Answered WSClark.

    Go play a victim somewhere else. No one here cares.

  154. WSClark
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 8:04 pm | Permalink

    “It was because he knew it bugged you”

    So you are okay with ethnic slurs, Fleet?

    When you are face to face with people, do you use the terms “nigger or spic or kike or chink?”

    If not, why do it on the blog?

    BTW – Didn’t Khan insist, demand, that we only address other bloggers by their screen names?

    I do not recall that my screen name included the words “Heevie.”

  155. WSClark
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 8:07 pm | Permalink

    “Asked and Answered WSClark.”

    No Khan, you chickenshitted your way out of answering. You never answer the questions, which was very simple….

    With your very first post, you addressed me with a variation on an ethnic slur.

    Why?

    And why did you do that, given that you have demanded that all posters be addressed by their screen names?

    As I said, my screen name does not include the words “Heevie.”

    So, are you a hypocrite?

    I think so.

  156. fleettwood
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 8:09 pm | Permalink

    “When you are face to face with people, do you use the terms “nigger or spic or kike or chink?”"

    Absolutely not!

    I prefer spade or taco muncher or Jesus killer or slope.But thank you for asking.

    Mr. I-will-beat-this-thing-to-death.

  157. WSClark
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 8:15 pm | Permalink

    Okay, Fleet, I buy your excuse. I have a few friends that I would LOVE to hear you call “SPADE” to their faces.

    In fact, I would sell tickets to such an event.

    But what happened to the the King and Queens demand that folks should only be addressed by their screen names?

    Since I had never addressed Khan at all, why did he call me Heevie?

    BTW – If you have grandchildren that were black or Native American or Hispanic or Asian, would you be okay with folks on this blog referring to them with ethnic slurs?

  158. fleettwood
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 8:19 pm | Permalink

    “King and Queens demand that folks should only be addressed by their screen names?”

    This is an open blog. There are no Kings and Queens.Methinks you think too much.

    As for the rest of your continuing rant, boring.

  159. Posted April 6, 2007 at 8:19 pm | Permalink

    So why the ethnic slur, Khan?

    Posted by: WSClark | April 06, 2007 at 07:53 PM

    Asked and Answered WSClark.

    Go play a victim somewhere else. No one here cares.

  160. WSClark
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 8:24 pm | Permalink

    By the way, Fleet, I am more than willing to go back to WV Blog as soon as Khan explains why he used an ethnic slur in addressing me and when the lot of you agree not to attack me in my absence.

    I truly do not want any part of WE Blog, but I will not allow folks like Khan and GSher to attack me as they have done.

    You have liars and damned liars, then you have Fleet, then GSher then you have motherfuckin’ liars, then you have Nixonian liars, then you have RepubliKhan.

  161. WSClark
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 8:27 pm | Permalink

    “King and Queens demand that folks should only be addressed by their screen names?”

    That was the demand from Khan the Chickenshit.

    He just could not resist his anti-Semitic prejudice and now he cannot just ‘fess up and admit it.

    Seems to me, my screen name was never “Heevie.”

    Do ya’ think that Khan may be a hypocrite?

  162. fleettwood
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 8:31 pm | Permalink

    Ladies and Gentlemen:

    I present ws in all his glory:

    “I truly do not want any part of WE Blog, but I will not allow folks like Khan and GSher to attack me as they have done.

    You have liars and damned liars, then you have Fleet, then GSher then you have motherfuckin’ liars, then you have Nixonian liars, then you have RepubliKhan.”

    Comical, ain’t it?

  163. WSClark
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 8:33 pm | Permalink

    I have to tell the truth, this has been kind of fun, coming back here and kicking khan and fleet tail all over the blog.

    I might just stay and kick their butts EVERYDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  164. WSClark
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 9:27 pm | Permalink

    …………….. and oh, by the way, objecting to a racial or ethnic slur is not “play the victim.” It is just the right thing to do.

    And you all know it.

    If you were attacked as I have been attacked, I would object as well, whether you were Republican (politically) or Democrat.

    Perhaps some of you more intelligent right wing folks could see the difference.

  165. Posted April 6, 2007 at 9:31 pm | Permalink

    Because, I don’t give a shit, WS. My thoughts are that you were not called that because you have Jewish blood, but because you are an ass.

    Posted by: GSheridan | April 06, 2007 at 06:45 PM

  166. Win14TheGipr
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 9:34 pm | Permalink

    Casino facts you won’t read in the Wichita Eagle.

    An organization named GVA Marquette Advisors was used by Kathleen Sebelius and other pro-casino operatives to support their case for a casino. A simple Google search will reveal that GVA Marquette Advisors “is recognized as an expert in the rapidly expanding gaming industry, including Native American gaming, riverboat and dockside casinos…” http://www.americangaming.org/about/members_detail.cfv?ID=148

    For an objective study, see http://www.americanexperiment.org/uploaded/files/gamblinginminnesota.pdf

    So, how should we approach the gambling debate? By understanding the facts, asking the right questions, applying basic reasoning and critical thinking.

    Increased Bankruptcy – A national study has found that counties with gambling enterprises hadan average of 18 percent more bankruptcies than those without. Counties with five or more gambling establishments were found to have 35 percent more bankruptcies.

    Increased Crime – The research of economist Earl Grinols shows that casinos contribute to increased crime. Grinols has found that while crime does not begin to increase until approximately four years after the introduction of casinos, a noticeable increase occurs at that time. He explains the lag time as a result of gamblers depleting resources before turning to crime. Summy of his findings are at http://www.ncalg.org/Library/Facts%20and%20Answers/Grinols-Summary-30APR0311.pdf

    Increased Suicide – Las Vegas has the highest levels of suicide in the nation for residents and visitors. Other states have seen marked increases in the suicide rate since introducing casinos.

    Increased Family Problems – The National Gambling Impact Study Commission and several other groups have found that easy access to gambling has led to increased rates of divorce, domestic violence, child abuse, and child neglect.

    Total Social Costs – Grinols estimates that casino gambling in America contributes $289 in social costs for every $46 of benefit.

    In addition to the tangible cost/benefit analysis, we should ask ourselves several questions dealing with the messages sent by expanding the state’s role in gambling. The questions include the following:

    · Should local and/or state governments serve as an enabler for the destructive habits of some of its citizens?

    · How can the we promote hard work and personal responsibility among citizens while trying to persuade those citizens to get rich quick at a state-owned casino?

    · Is expanded gambling trully a good way to gain revenue?

    · Will the growth of expanded gambling come at the expense of private businesses?

    · What are the real demographics of the casino users?

    · Of the total projected revenue received by the casino, how much is projected to be spent by demographic category compared to how much will stay within the city, county, state?

    · Who will oversee a state-owned casino?

    · What is the net job impact of ‘value add’ jobs added vs value add jobs lost due to above?

    · Does a casino pass the Visioneering Wichita core values test? Let me remind you what they are; Integrity, Faith in God, Responsible, Innovative, Family Values, Excellence, Respect, Initiative, Appreciate Diversity.

  167. WSClark
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 9:35 pm | Permalink

    No guts, Khan, no guts.

    How does being an ass (you are of course an expert on that, being an huge ass yourself) equate to being a Heevie?

    You have already admitted that Heevie was a take off on “Heeb” so why not just admitt that you are anti-Semitic and get it over with?

    Also, explain why you DEMAND that posters address one another by their chosen screen names but you are okay with calling me “Heevie.”

    Why are you a hypocrite, Republican?

  168. WSClark
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 9:37 pm | Permalink

    By the way, Republican, you suggested that I was a homosexual because I have been divorced twice and (according to you) I have a small penis, leading to my divorces.

    Now, you have never been married, so what does that make you?

  169. Posted April 6, 2007 at 9:37 pm | Permalink

    fap fap fap

  170. political_mom
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 9:40 pm | Permalink

    Will you all just shut the hell up already.

    WS, we know they’re heathens, but honestly you’re only making it worse. Now they just bait you to look like you’re nuts. We all know they’re assholes, you’ve already won the argument.

    And GS, there is no excuse for calling someone a racial slur.

  171. WSClark
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 9:41 pm | Permalink

    Can’t answer the questions, can you, Khan……

    The little Khan boy got his butt kicked by a mixed breed……

    Not only are you a loser, Khan, but you are a chickenshit to boot.

    And just for S & G, I am going to come back everyday and kick your ass until you admit that you are an anti-Semite.

  172. WSClark
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 9:43 pm | Permalink

    But, but, but……….. Mom!!!!!!

    I am having fun kicking their butts!

    Can’t I stay up until the news comes on???????

  173. Posted April 6, 2007 at 9:44 pm | Permalink

    Will you all just shut the hell up already.Posted by: political_mom | April 06, 2007 at 09:40 PM

  174. WSClark
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 9:45 pm | Permalink

    Well then, just answer the questions, Khan, and then everyone can shut up.

    Including you.

  175. Mary Caruso
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 9:49 pm | Permalink

    Can’t we just get along?

  176. WSClark
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 9:52 pm | Permalink

    Nope, not until those that attacked first admit that they were the perps and they admit that they fired FIRST with anti-Semitic ethnic slurs.

    Pretty simple, I would say.

  177. political_mom
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 10:07 pm | Permalink

    Come on now WS, khan has been exposed about his lying in two threads today. We know the truth.Just let it go.

  178. WSClark
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 10:09 pm | Permalink

    Ahhhhhhhh, I just read that the Khan is toooooooo tired to post his replies. The poor boy!!!!

    I wonder if the Nazis at Nuremburg used the “I am toooooo tired” defense.

    I wonder if the Klansmen used the “I am toooooo tired” defense.

    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm………

    Perhaps Khan is just a coward.

  179. WSClark
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 10:13 pm | Permalink

    After their first fight, Muhammad Ali promised George Foreman a rematch if George would just admit that he got knocked out in Zaire.

    George never would admit it (until years later) so he never got his rematch.

    I would be more than happy to go away. In fact, I want to go away.

    But not until………..

    I want Khan to ADMIT that he used an ethnic slur in reference to me and I want him to apologize.

  180. Posted April 6, 2007 at 10:48 pm | Permalink

    Hehehehe, Republican will never apologize, WSC.

    This is what he lives for: f**king with people on-line.

    So, we’ll just have to make his on-line life a living hell.

    From now on, Republican will be referred to as “meshuge mamzer” or MM for short.

    It’s Yiddish for “crazy bastard.”

    And as mentioned earlier, I will be reposting his lie every day from here on out for all to see and enjoy.

    I’d quit posting it if he apologized, but hell will freeze over first.

  181. Posted April 6, 2007 at 10:53 pm | Permalink

    Did you notice how his lie from yesterday (ANOVA with a little a) changed from being a rationalization then to me harassing him for making a mistake now?

    But that’s just it, Republican. You didn’t admit it was a mistake then. You tried to lie your way out of a mistake.

    When that doesn’t work, then I become the bad guy for showing how you lied.

    Unbelievable . . .

  182. GW not
    Posted April 6, 2007 at 11:24 pm | Permalink

    WASHINGTON (AP) – Vice President Dick Cheney repeated his assertions of al-Qaida links to Saddam Hussein’s Iraq on Thursday as the Defense Department released a report citing more evidence that the prewar government did not cooperate with the terrorist group.http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8OB8L3O0&show_article=1

  183. Posted April 6, 2007 at 11:43 pm | Permalink

    Proof that CapnAmerica and WSClark is the same person:

    “And yes I am The Finger. I admit it.

    Posted by: CapnAmerica | January 14, 2007 at 11:30 PM ”

    Yup, all three posts under that nic.

    I admit to all of those . . . three.

    Posted by: CapnAmerica | January 14, 2007 at 11:51 PM

    I have posted as WSClark. I posted in repsonse to Ian Santiago as Jew Boy, each time with an text “finger.”

    As I noted before, I do not troll and I have only used two nics WSClark and Jew Boy. WE Blog asked me to stop with the “finger” and I complied when they asked.

    :)

    They, I mean WSCLark…er I mean CapnAmerica…er I mean Wally0′Dell, er I mean Galahad, er…I mean the Finger, er I mean JewBoy…

    Oh heck I just can’t keep up with all these nic switching trolls.

    :)

  184. Posted April 7, 2007 at 11:20 am | Permalink

    Simple explanation, Meshuge Mamzer.

    WSClark “drew” the finger and used it a number of times.

    The WEBlog editors asked him to stop, which he did.

    However, they didn’t ask ME to stop. So I used it. I said I was “The Finger” when Clark asked who was posting it again.

    It’s all perfectly obvious if you re-read the posts from which you cut and pasted only the sections to try to make us look like trolls.

    Another lie.

    Why is that not surprising?

  185. Posted April 7, 2007 at 11:24 am | Permalink

    You claim you’ve only been here since February but you remember to search for things that happened in January.

    The more you argue about your “innocence,” the guilter you show yourself to be.